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| 00:17 | brendan joined #koha | |
| 00:18 | genji | koha's install didn't install the database... |
| 00:19 | chris | it doesnt |
| 00:19 | genji | ah |
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| 00:19 | genji | okay. how do i then? |
| 00:19 | chris | you have to make it |
| 00:19 | its in INSTALL.debian-lenny | |
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| 00:25 | chris_n2 is now known as chris_n | |
| 00:25 | chris_n | this is the only time I'd say that bugs look good :) |
| 00:29 | genji | ah .. web installer... |
| 00:30 | haven't done a complete install in ages. | |
| 00:32 | chris | right up to 1813 |
| 00:32 | on the second try | |
| 00:43 | gmcharlt | @bug 1813 |
| 00:43 | munin | gmcharlt: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1813 normal, P3, ---, chris, RESOLVED FIXED, Syspref OPACItemsResultsDisplay isn't in defaults syspref table |
| 00:44 | chris | sweet |
| 00:44 | 2148 | |
| 00:44 | brendan | hey nice job - way to go munin |
| 00:44 | err.. gmcharlt | |
| 00:44 | chris | nearly halfway |
| 00:44 | gmcharlt | does the human wag the bot, or vice versa? |
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| 01:08 | ray | gud day! how can you disable the cover images in the title view of books. Cover of books should be only seen in the search view but will be hidden in the title view. |
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| 01:12 | ray | gud day! how can you disable the cover images in the title view of books. Cover of books should be only seen in the search view but will be hidden in the title view. |
| 01:12 | gud day! how can you disable the cover images in the title view of books. Cover of books should be only seen in the search view but will be hidden in the title view. | |
| 01:12 | gmcharlt | ray: there's no setting at present to do that; you would have to change the bib detail template or code in a new system preference |
| 01:14 | ray | ahm i see. i would like to disable the cover images in the title view because of performance issue... there is always a delay of approximately 5 seconds in the title view when the feature is on.. is it just normal? |
| 01:15 | any suggestions? | |
| 01:15 | chris | thats your browser fetching the image from amazon (or google) |
| 01:16 | so disabling it is probably the only way, but as gmcharlt says you would need to either edit the templage or better yet make a new sys preference | |
| 01:18 | ray | ahm.. ok. im using google jacket feature. since i dont know much about perl or html much i think i would go to making a new sys preference.. any suggestion? |
| 01:19 | chris | well if you dont know perl, you won't be able to do that very easily |
| 01:19 | if you wait about 20 minutes | |
| 01:19 | then go to http://bugs.koha-community.org | |
| 01:19 | ray | 20 minutes? |
| 01:20 | chris | register as a user, and create a new bug, mark it an enhancement request |
| 01:20 | ray | 20 minutes? |
| 01:20 | chris | yes |
| 01:20 | im in the middle of migrating bugs there | |
| 01:20 | when thats done, its gonna be safe to use again, and you can make a bug there, and someone might do the work for you | |
| 01:20 | ray | i see. ok i'll just post it there.. tnx! |
| 01:21 | chris | i can see that being able to choose only show covers in search results, or only in detail results would be useful |
| 01:22 | im guessing you have a DIY koha install? no support company eh? | |
| 01:22 | ray | disabling the book cover in the title view will increase the responsivenes.. what's DIY? |
| 01:22 | larsw | DIY = do-it-yourself |
| 01:23 | ray | definitely.. |
| 01:23 | ;) | |
| 01:23 | chris | then bugs.koha-community.org is definitely your best bet |
| 01:23 | ill yell out when its all clear | |
| 01:24 | ray | :) |
| 01:25 | by the way where are you from? | |
| 01:25 | i mean what's your location? | |
| 01:26 | chris | wellington, nz |
| 01:26 | ok, all clear | |
| 01:26 | http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/ | |
| 01:26 | if you sign up here, then add a bug :) | |
| 01:26 | brendan | YAY! |
| 01:27 | ray | i successfully created an account... |
| 01:27 | larsw | chris, yeehaa! |
| 01:28 | chris | :) |
| 01:28 | larsw | I would even go so far as saying... |
| 01:28 | chris += INT_MAX | |
| 01:32 | chris | ray: cool, figured out how to add a bug? |
| 01:34 | chris_n | chris++ |
| 01:34 | gmcharlt | larsw: I think munin just suffered overflow ;) |
| 01:35 | chris | heh |
| 01:35 | larsw | gmcharlt, tsk, using fixed size integers is often a bad idea :) |
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| 01:41 | ray | i already posted my requested feature |
| 01:42 | chris | w00t |
| 01:42 | and i got a bug mail | |
| 01:42 | bug 4800 | |
| 01:42 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4800 enhancement, P5, ---, chris, NEW, Disable book cover image in the title view if the feature is on. |
| 01:42 | chris | kaplow! |
| 01:42 | chilts | munin's looking good :) |
| 01:43 | and the new BugZilla is awesome - nice work chris | |
| 01:44 | heh, I guess the component 'bugs.koha.org' could also be renamed :) | |
| 01:45 | gmcharlt | chilts: your wish is my command |
| 01:45 | chris | :) |
| 01:46 | chilts | just something I noticed :) |
| 01:47 | chris: shall I change the wiki front page to put a 'Use Now' on bugs.k... | |
| 01:47 | chris | yes please |
| 01:48 | chilts | if only I could remember my password :) |
| 01:51 | ok, I'm failing at the wiki since I have forgotten my user/pass (and the email hasn't come through yet) ... anyone, feel free to go edit the front page yourself, else I can do it later tonight :) | |
| 01:51 | * chilts | bows head in shame |
| 01:51 | chris | do it with openid man |
| 01:52 | who has passwords anymore | |
| 01:52 | :) | |
| 01:52 | chilts | true |
| 01:52 | larsw | openid++. revelation++. |
| 01:57 | chilts | amazing how hard Google make it to use their open id with Google Apps, don't think the wiki has the extensions required (and probably best not to either) |
| 01:58 | robin | chilts: use launchpad, it's an openid provider :) |
| 01:58 | * chris | is changing it now |
| 01:59 | chilts | no, but thanks |
| 01:59 | cool, thanks chris | |
| 01:59 | chris | i just use my livejounral one |
| 01:59 | spelt right | |
| 01:59 | that ive had for 7 million years | |
| 02:00 | done | |
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| 02:58 | wajasu | tried koha community git pull today again. it still hangs for me receiving objects. maybe by git version 1.7.1 is broke? i pulled other koha git repos just fine. |
| 03:00 | chris | that one works fine for me |
| 03:00 | pull from it everyday | |
| 03:01 | weird | |
| 03:13 | brendan | hmm... I don't know if I know this - where does zebra store the raw binary indexes or data (generally) (maybe I'm having a brain fart - but who knows) |
| 03:13 | chris | whereever you tell it to |
| 03:13 | you will need to check you zebra-biblio.cfg file | |
| 03:13 | to find out | |
| 03:13 | and i probably spelt that wrong :) | |
| 03:14 | brendan | doh |
| 03:14 | know the file you're talking about - | |
| 03:14 | * brendan | slaps forehead |
| 03:14 | brendan | thanks chris |
| 03:14 | chris | np |
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| 03:55 | Amit | heya Chris, brendan |
| 03:56 | brendan | hey Amit |
| 03:56 | going to delhi ? | |
| 03:58 | Amit | @wounder Bangalore |
| 03:58 | munin | Amit: Error: "wounder" is not a valid command. |
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| 04:51 | ray | how can i send notifications to users through their email address a notification every time they borrowed or return a book... |
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| 07:21 | nahuel | Today is the day of lists.koha.org move :) |
| 07:21 | chris, | |
| 07:25 | hdl_laptop | chris Happy birthday once again |
| 07:53 | Amit | heya nahuel, hdl |
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| 08:03 | kmkale | Good afternoon all.. |
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| 08:14 | Amit | heya kmkale |
| 08:14 | kmkale | hi Amit |
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| 08:24 | kf | good morning #koha |
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| 08:33 | CGI752 | hi all |
| 08:33 | kf | hi CGI752 |
| 08:34 | CGI752 | can i ask regarding koha 2.2.9 in windows |
| 08:35 | after installed koha 2.2.9, cannot add members | |
| 08:35 | all of know why? | |
| 08:35 | kf | koha on windows is problematic |
| 08:36 | its recommended to use linux | |
| 08:36 | CGI752 | not expert in linux |
| 08:36 | kf | you dont need to, there are nice tutorials you can follow |
| 08:36 | and you can use virtualbox for your test installation | |
| 08:37 | 2.2.9 is an old version of koha | |
| 08:37 | current stable release is 3.0.6 | |
| 08:38 | CGI752 | koha-3.00.06.tar this one? |
| 08:42 | kf | yes, you can download it from koha-community.org |
| 08:50 | kmkale | hi kf |
| 08:51 | @weather Mumbai | |
| 08:51 | kf | hi kmkale |
| 08:51 | munin | kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 33.0�C (2:10 PM IST on May 21, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 25.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Falling). |
| 08:51 | kf | @weather Konstanz |
| 08:51 | munin | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is 11.6�C (10:54 AM CEST on May 21, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028.0 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:53 | kmkale | kf wanna switch the temp? |
| 08:53 | its boiling here | |
| 08:53 | CGI752 | how about this LibLime's Harley? |
| 08:53 | is it stable? it can run in windows? | |
| 08:54 | kmkale | CGI752: no its for Linux |
| 08:55 | kf | kmkale: hm, sum and /2? |
| 08:55 | Amit | @weather Bangalore |
| 08:55 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 25.0�C (11:30 AM IST on May 21, 2010). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. |
| 08:56 | Amit | @weather New Delhi |
| 08:56 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 41.0�C (2:00 PM IST on May 21, 2010). Conditions: Unknown. Humidity: 9%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:56 | Amit | @weather Dehradun |
| 08:56 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 37.0�C (11:30 AM IST on May 21, 2010). Conditions: . Humidity: 11%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.54 in 1000 hPa. |
| 08:56 | Amit | @weather Mumabi |
| 08:56 | munin | Amit: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error |
| 08:56 | kf | CGI752: im not sure i it can run in windows, its not an official release |
| 08:56 | Amit | @weather Mumbai |
| 08:56 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 33.0�C (2:10 PM IST on May 21, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 25.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Falling). |
| 08:57 | kf | CGI752: from all what I have heard windoes is really difficult, linux is the better option |
| 08:58 | kmkale | @roulette |
| 08:58 | munin | *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! |
| 08:58 | * munin | reloads and spins the chambers. |
| 08:58 | kmkale | humm figures.. |
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| 09:04 | chris | evening |
| 09:05 | kf | hi chris |
| 09:05 | jransom | hiya |
| 09:05 | kf | hi jransom |
| 09:06 | chris | nahuel: let me know when to change the koha-bugs email address in bugzilla |
| 09:07 | nahuel | yep |
| 09:07 | migration is running | |
| 09:07 | jransom | Hi katrin |
| 09:08 | chris | cool |
| 09:16 | hdl_laptop | hi all |
| 09:17 | jransom | hi there |
| 09:19 | kf | jransom: :) |
| 09:20 | kmkale | hi hdl_laptop chris jransom |
| 09:20 | jransom | hiya |
| 09:22 | chris | hi kmkale |
| 09:23 | CGI752 | hi all |
| 09:23 | kmkale is now known as melting_man | |
| 09:24 | melting_man | :( |
| 09:24 | melting_man is now known as kmkale | |
| 09:24 | jransom | why melting? |
| 09:26 | kmkale | @weather Mumbai |
| 09:26 | munin | kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 33.0�C (2:40 PM IST on May 21, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 25.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Falling). |
| 09:26 | kmkale | + a/c's gone Kaput |
| 09:26 | chris | ahh bummer |
| 09:26 | jransom | oh lordy |
| 09:29 | kmkale | to top it all I am working on converting awful foxpro based data to MARC |
| 09:32 | jransom | In contrast it is freezing cold and wet where I am, and we have the fire roaring away making us nice and warm |
| 09:33 | kmkale | *green is my color* |
| 09:44 | kf | not so cold here but still raining |
| 09:46 | kmkale | any idea which marc tag I can put entry date? not accession date but the date on which data was entered in system.. |
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| 09:50 | chris | one of the 00 ones |
| 09:50 | i think 003 | |
| 09:50 | lemme check | |
| 09:51 | http://www.loc.gov/marc/holdings/hd005.html | |
| 09:52 | actually | |
| 09:52 | http://www.loc.gov/marc/holdings/hd008.html | |
| 09:52 | part of the 008 tag | |
| 09:53 | kf | @marc 008 |
| 09:53 | munin | kf: This field contains 40 character positions (00-39) that provide coded information about the record as a whole and about special bibliographic aspects of the item being cataloged. These coded data elements are potentially useful for retrieval and data management purposes. [] |
| 09:53 | kmkale | should be system generated. |
| 09:53 | ? | |
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| 09:57 | CGI752 | anyone can help me in koha 2.2.9 cannot add member? |
| 09:59 | Amit | @marc 730 |
| 09:59 | munin | Amit: Contains a related or an analytical title that is controlled by an authority file or list. (Repeatable) [a,d,f,g,h,k,l,m,n,o,p,r,s,t,x,3,5,6,8] |
| 09:59 | Amit | @marc 700 |
| 09:59 | munin | Amit: An added entry in which the entry element is a personal name. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,x,3,4,5,6,8] |
| 10:04 | CGI752 | can anyone why cannot add member in koha 2.2.9? |
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| 10:46 | CGI197 | hi friends, I think I'm the latest newbie in Koha |
| 10:47 | I'm Vincenzo and I'm calling from Italy | |
| 10:47 | kf | hi CGI197 |
| 10:47 | or better hi Vincenzo | |
| 10:47 | CGI197 | thanks kf |
| 10:48 | During last days I installed Koha version 3.00.05 on CentOs5 with Perl 5.10 | |
| 10:49 | After some tries, everything seems to work. I started with configuration tools and I tried to add records viaaaa Z39.50 | |
| 10:51 | kf | it didnt work? |
| 10:52 | CGI197 | No, it works fine, but when I search my records in OPAC, I have this error message: "No results match your search for “kw,wrdl: marino ” |
| 10:53 | kf | have you installed koha with zebra? |
| 10:53 | CGI197 | Yes, I do |
| 10:53 | kf | ok, check that zebrasrv is running and you need to set up a cronjob with rebuild_zebra -z -a -b to reindex every x minutes |
| 10:55 | dont use zebraqueue deamon, its recommended to use rebuild_zebra as cronjob | |
| 10:58 | CGI197 | In effecct, I tried to restard zebraserver using "/etc/init.d/zebra restart" but never changed in my OPAC search result |
| 10:59 | kf | zebraserver will not index your record |
| 10:59 | you can try to rebuld_zebra manually and test again | |
| 11:00 | CGI197 | Ok, I'm trying |
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| 11:03 | chris_n2 is now known as chris_n | |
| 11:03 | chris_n | g'morning #koha |
| 11:04 | kf | morning chris_n |
| 11:05 | jdavidb | howdy, #koha. |
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| 11:05 | kf | howdy jdavidb |
| 11:05 | chris_n | heya kf, jdavidb |
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| 11:17 | mle | : ) |
| 11:17 | @seen slef | |
| 11:17 | munin | mle: slef was last seen in #koha 1 week, 1 day, 11 hours, 15 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <slef> I'll accept nominations |
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| 11:19 | genji | hiya all. how do i run multiple zebra databases on one machine? |
| 11:19 | just a different config file with different paths? | |
| 11:21 | jdavidb | that's what I do, gengi. then you run the zebrasrv process multiple times, pointing at the different KOHA_CONFs. It's *much* easier with all dev installs, with each running as a different user. |
| 11:21 | genji | different user? |
| 11:22 | uhh..... | |
| 11:22 | why? | |
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| 11:24 | jdavidb | it's hard to put multiple config files at /etc/koha/koha_conf.xml. The filesystem doesn't like that; it just persists in erasing whatever is there when you put a new one in its' place. Running all of them as dev installs lets each stay totally contained in its' user's home dir. |
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| 11:25 | genji | ah. well.. ive got my kohaclone in a seperate directory from my working code.. and its config/zebra directory seperate from my working code's directory. |
| 11:26 | so.. i figure i'll just call zebrasrv again, with the new -f? | |
| 11:26 | mle | chris: munin *is* looking good. nice one |
| 11:27 | genji | why is munin looking good? |
| 11:27 | hdl_laptop | hi all |
| 11:27 | jdavidb | yep! should work fine, genji. |
| 11:27 | Amit | heya genji, jadavidb |
| 11:27 | jdavidb | hi, Amit. |
| 11:28 | * jdavidb | waves to hdl_laptop. |
| 11:28 | genji | always wanted to know, hdl_laptop... what is in your laptop? what os are you running? |
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| 11:32 | genji | hm... quiet.. |
| 11:33 | nahuel | chris, migration finished ! |
| 11:36 | kmkale | anyone running a production server on ubuntu 10.04 yet? |
| 11:37 | gmcharlt | nahuel: http://lists.koha-community.org/mailman appears to be redirecting to https://lists.koha-community.org/mailman |
| 11:37 | is that intended? | |
| 11:37 | nahuel | gmcharlt, what is http://lists.koha-community.org/mailman ? |
| 11:37 | gmcharlt, you should go there http://lists.koha-community.org/ | |
| 11:38 | gmcharlt | nahuel: well, it is still doing the same thing - redirecting to https |
| 11:38 | nahuel | yep |
| 11:38 | https is great :) | |
| 11:39 | gmcharlt | not with a self-signed certificate, it isn't |
| 11:39 | nahuel | ah ok |
| 11:39 | you're right | |
| 11:39 | fixed | |
| 11:40 | gmcharlt | thanks |
| 11:41 | the links to the lists on http://lists.koha-community.or[…]/mailman/listinfo still have https instead of http | |
| 11:44 | nahuel | looking |
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| 11:52 | kf | hi jwagner |
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| 11:52 | kmkale | nahuel++ |
| 11:52 | nengard | nahuel++ |
| 11:53 | nahuel | w00t ! |
| 11:53 | kf | has someone a recommendation for me? I use Newsfox (firefox plugin) now and want to swith to something web based for reading feeds |
| 11:53 | nengard | got a question - is there a way in Git to set up an address book? or an email alias? koha-patches lists.koha-community.org is a lot to type everytime I want to send a patch :) hehe |
| 11:53 | kf | nahuel++ |
| 11:53 | nengard | kf - most people seem to like google reader |
| 11:53 | i am still using bloglines though because greader has some things that just bug me! | |
| 11:54 | kf | thx |
| 11:54 | :) | |
| 11:54 | jwagner | hi kf |
| 11:54 | jdavidb | nahuel++ |
| 11:54 | nahuel | gimme more ! |
| 11:55 | jdavidb | kf: I use google reader, and like it fine. I group some things together, and that helps a bit. |
| 11:55 | gmcharlt | nengard: there's a git option called sendemail.aliasesfile that you can use to point to a file of aliases for email addresses |
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| 11:55 | paul_p | nengard, ? |
| 11:56 | gmcharlt | nengard: scroll down a bit on http://www.vflare.org/2009/09/[…]low-with-git.html |
| 11:56 | nengard | thanks gmcharlt :) |
| 11:57 | paul_p | nengard, I did'nt understand your mail : "can we put an english translation ..." ? |
| 11:57 | gmcharlt | nahuel: can you set up a reflector so that patcheskoha-community.org forwards to the list? |
| 11:57 | nahuel | bad idea I think... |
| 11:57 | You should all be decided between yourself :) | |
| 11:57 | paul_p, | |
| 11:58 | hdl_laptop, | |
| 11:58 | gmcharlt, | |
| 11:58 | plz :) | |
| 11:58 | each one said me to do something different | |
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| 12:09 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: paul_p: ^^ |
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| 12:14 | jdavidb | howdy, owen |
| 12:15 | owen | Hi |
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| 12:22 | owen | Where should we be sending patches now? Has the address changed? |
| 12:25 | gmcharlt | owen: koha-patcheslists.koha-community.org |
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| 12:25 | owen | That's a mouthful |
| 12:25 | gmcharlt | I'm working on convincing nahuel to set up patcheskoha-community.org ;), but still long |
| 12:26 | nahuel | ?? |
| 12:28 | nengard | woo hoo - only 3 left on the list of koha site to move! http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_Community_Sites_.28and_their_status.29 |
| 12:36 | chris_n`` | nahuel++ |
| 12:37 | * chris_n`` | notes that there are too many chris_n's today |
| 12:38 | gmcharlt | chris_n``: if you set your clones to work, problem solved |
| 12:38 | * chris_n`` | cracks the whip :) |
| 12:39 | magnus | nengard: was there ever a debian.koha.org? i think only translate and contribs are left... but anyway: woohoo! ;-) |
| 12:39 | owen | It's not that there are too many chris_n's, it's that there are too few of everyone else |
| 12:40 | gmcharlt | magnus: there was no debian.koha.org, but larsw is planning to set up debian.koha-community.org soon |
| 12:40 | nengard | magnus - i didn't create that list |
| 12:40 | ah - thanks gmcharlt | |
| 12:42 | magnus | so that leaves 2 sites to be moved from .koha.org to .koha-community.org, as far as i can see :-) |
| 12:42 | chris_n`` | owen: LOL |
| 12:42 | kf | was it always koha-patches@...? I think patches@ worked too |
| 12:42 | gmcharlt | magnus: translate.koha-community.org is under way - fredericd will be hosting it |
| 12:43 | magnus: however, feel free to offer to host contribs ;) | |
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| 12:44 | hdl_laptop | nengard: http://translate.koha-community.org/ seems to be up. |
| 12:44 | am I dreaming ? | |
| 12:44 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: as I understand it, it's not ready for prime time yet |
| 12:44 | nengard | hdl_laptop - chris said he was waiting to make it live until after 3.2 was released |
| 12:46 | kf it was both | |
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| 12:48 | kmkale | earlier Manage Staged MARC Records used to show few records from the batch and there was paging for rest of the records. |
| 12:48 | Now it shows ALL the records in the batch plus the paging links | |
| 12:48 | magnus | gmcharlt: i'd love to, but i don't think i'm quite ready for it yet... |
| 12:49 | gmcharlt | fair enough |
| 12:49 | kmkale | Hence on large batches it sometimes hangs. IMHO its not necessary to show ALL records on 1st page. The paging links are good enough |
| 12:49 | gmcharlt | kmkale: what version? |
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| 12:50 | kmkale | gmcharlt: : 3.01.00.134 |
| 12:50 | * chris_n`` | submits a patch to update INSTALL* docs for the new bugs and lists servers |
| 12:50 | chris_n`` | only wiki links left to update now |
| 12:52 | owen | now I need a bookmarklet to redirect me from old bugzilla to the new one |
| 12:52 | kmkale | in 3.00.00 it shows 25 records and rest are accessible through the page number links |
| 12:53 | ^^ is 3.00.00.107 | |
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| 12:53 | nengard | chris_n did that already |
| 12:54 | gmcharlt | kmkale: yep, I see it |
| 12:54 | chris_n`` | gmcharlt: please ignore the first patch and use the second |
| 12:55 | * chris_n`` | got to quick with sed the first time through :-\ |
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| 13:04 | gmcharlt | kmkale: ok, I see what the problem is, fix is on the way |
| 13:05 | kmkale | gmcharlt: thanks :) |
| 13:05 | * chris_n`` | apologizes for spamming the new patches list :-P |
| 13:05 | chris_n`` | my worst nightmare has been realized.... friday has turned into monday |
| 13:06 | nengard | LOL |
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| 13:11 | genji | okay... created kohaclone db... maintenance.pl is errored out.. but the log has no error message. |
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| 13:18 | eiro | hello all |
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| 13:34 | gmcharlt | nengard: http://galencharlton.com/blog/?p=60 |
| 13:37 | chris_n`` | I think you can also do 'git config --global sendemail.to koha-patcheslists.koha-community.org' to have it populated with that as the default |
| 13:38 | nengard | gmcharlt you rock!! |
| 13:38 | gmcharlt++ | |
| 13:39 | kmkale | gmcharlt: thats two birds in a stone :) |
| 13:40 | genji | okay. thats curious. my apache thinks i want the opac.. when im giving it the correct port, for the intranet... |
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| 13:50 | * magnus | wishes everyone a happy weekend |
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| 13:55 | genji | whats fast add marc21 framework? |
| 13:58 | jwagner | genji, it's a stripped down framework for creation of brief records -- only has the bare minimum of fields (like 245 etc.) |
| 13:59 | owen, gmcharlt, anyone else who might know -- didn't get an answer yesterday. With regard to http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]c32_multiple_opac | |
| 13:59 | Is it possible to have multiple branch codes or item type/ccodes as limits? Or only one? | |
| 13:59 | genji | okay.. whats sample_notices_message_transports exactly? |
| 14:03 | gmcharlt | jwagner: in principle, it's possible, but may need a little work on the search code to take on the equivalent of (ccode = 'foo' or ccode = 'baz' or ccode = 'quux') to the search |
| 14:04 | jwagner | Can you embed something like that in the apache conf file, though? |
| 14:08 | gmcharlt | jwagner: possibly - opac_search_limit is supposed to take any CCL query |
| 14:10 | jwagner | Hmmm. Will have to experiment... |
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| 14:30 | owen | Aw man, I didn't think about my saved Bugzilla searches getting left behind. Bummer. |
| 14:31 | jwagner | owen, I can't find any (well, two) of the bug reports I either created or was cc'd on. |
| 14:32 | owen | Any == 2 ? |
| 14:35 | Important matters for rapt attention: Should the new bugzilla use munin's quote collection? | |
| 14:35 | jwagner | I either created or was cc'd on a whole lot (probably upwards of 100 when you count the closed ones). I can only find 2 of them, by searching on my own name. All the other search variations I tried, didn't find anything. |
| 14:35 | * jwagner | grumbles |
| 14:36 | wizzyrea | jwagner: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]icksearch=jwagner |
| 14:37 | does that help? | |
| 14:37 | jwagner | wizzyrea, thanks, yes it does. You just searched on the jwagner, not the full address? |
| 14:38 | wizzyrea | yepper |
| 14:38 | owen | jwagner: What email address do you use in Bugzilla? |
| 14:38 | jwagner | jwagnerptfs.com, same as everywhere else |
| 14:40 | owen | Very strange that it doesn't return anything if you search on that as the reporter |
| 14:40 | Are you registered on the new site? | |
| 14:40 | gmcharlt | jwagner: might not be until the weekend, but if you have an account in the new BZ now, I can get your bugs linked back to you |
| 14:41 | jwagner | Now I am. I wasn't before today. Maybe that's the problem. But it should still pick up my name in the body. |
| 14:41 | gmcharlt, thanks, that would help. Too many of them for me to want to recreate manually. | |
| 14:41 | gmcharlt | jwagner: ok, just let me know once you've registered an account |
| 14:41 | jwagner | it's there |
| 14:43 | * wizzyrea | gets to work updating the links on k-c.org |
| 14:48 | wizzyrea | fwiw, if you have links to bugs |
| 14:48 | you can for the most part add the -community and remove the /cgi-bin | |
| 14:48 | from the links | |
| 14:48 | and you're g2g | |
| 14:48 | < made me happy | |
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| 14:56 | * chris_n`` | had his url fun this morning |
| 14:57 | heads off to take care of chris_n` | |
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| 14:58 | wizzyrea | @later tell chris do you want to put a post on k-c.org re: completing the move to new bugzilla? |
| 14:58 | munin | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
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| 14:59 | * chris_n` | grins evilly |
| 15:00 | wizzyrea | nengard I'm not even sure what you're talking about lol, screencap? |
| 15:00 | nengard | coming your way |
| 15:00 | wizzyrea | hehe thanks |
| 15:00 | nengard | but you don't need one |
| 15:00 | see here: http://koha-community.org/ | |
| 15:00 | look at the survey post | |
| 15:00 | there is supposed to be space in between those paragraphs | |
| 15:00 | wizzyrea | well say that then! :D |
| 15:00 | nengard | i remember not liking that about that style |
| 15:01 | owen | wizzyrea: I would like to put in a vote for a single page devoted to IRC like on koha.org (http://koha.org/about/get-involved/irc/irc) |
| 15:01 | nengard | rushing through too much |
| 15:01 | sorry - left out words | |
| 15:01 | wizzyrea | it's ok :) |
| 15:01 | owen: very good, will do | |
| 15:02 | owen: http://koha-community.org/support/ you want to duplicate the IRC info available here? | |
| 15:02 | or something different? | |
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| 15:02 | owen | Duplicating it would be fine with me. |
| 15:02 | I would just like to be able to point to a specific page | |
| 15:03 | wizzyrea | sounds good |
| 15:03 | I'll make it purty | |
| 15:05 | owen | Use a doily or something maybe. |
| 15:23 | gmcharlt | google++ |
| 15:24 | owen | ? |
| 15:25 | kmkale | bye all good night |
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| 15:25 | gmcharlt | owen: check out google's home page |
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| 15:25 | brendan | nice |
| 15:25 | :) | |
| 15:26 | turn your speakers on too | |
| 15:27 | * owen | was never very good at the game, was always saving his quarters to buy Star Wars figures |
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| 15:35 | chris_n` | google++ |
| 15:36 | * chris_n` | remembers finding a bug in Galaxian which allowed him to play forever |
| 15:40 | wizzyrea | man, I really want some kind of cheesy graphic of multicolored people holding hands around the koha logo. I must be nuts. |
| 15:40 | i like the sentiment though | |
| 15:43 | http://koha-community.org/get-involved/irc/ | |
| 15:43 | for owen | |
| 15:43 | owen | thank you! |
| 15:43 | wizzyrea++ | |
| 15:44 | That's the last koha.org link on my blog and I can update it now | |
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| 15:46 | jwagner | owen, gmcharlt, any other MARC/javascript experts, see my update on Bug 4464 -- ideas? |
| 15:46 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4464 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Editing a record with a 245a triggers warning about 245 is mandatory |
| 15:47 | gmcharlt | jwagner: extending the JS to check textareas is the better long-term solution |
| 15:48 | jwagner | The programmer investigating this isn't a JS expert. Ideas or pointers for him? |
| 15:48 | nengard | wizzyrea++ |
| 15:49 | owen | Slightly off topic, but has anyone ever done a calculation of circulations per full-time employee? |
| 15:49 | jwagner | Are there other areas in the MARC edit screen(s) that have worked around character limits? |
| 15:50 | wizzyrea | haha this sounds like a people problem in search of a technical metric |
| 15:51 | fwiw, this is the kind of cheesiness I'm wanting: http://images.google.com/url?s[…]OzclOximRMpZiI8Ew | |
| 15:51 | ooh, ouch | |
| 15:52 | owen | wizzyrea: It's supposed to be a gauge to help understand which libraries are over- or under-staffed |
| 15:52 | wizzyrea | aha! |
| 15:53 | * wizzyrea | was imagining a scenario where one staff member wasn't doing their job, and you needed a metric to prove it |
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| 16:19 | owen | Number of hours worked by all staff in a month, divided by 7 (full time work day) divided by number of days in the given month... But that last number is completely arbitrary |
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| 16:20 | owen | maybe I should look at circs per day per FTE and expand it to the month for the report... |
| 16:21 | wizzyrea | hmm. http://xkcd.com/743/ |
| 16:21 | sounds like a few conversations we've had in my office re: overdrive | |
| 16:21 | sekjal | wizzyrea: yeah, that was a good one. been circulating around my sphere all morning |
| 16:22 | wizzyrea | i'm less hairy than that though. |
| 16:22 | owen | "Oh my god! We handed control of our ILS data to a proprietary vendor and they're doing evil stuff!" |
| 16:22 | wizzyrea | and that |
| 16:25 | nengard | gmcharlt, you pushed some patches, but I didn't get a commit email - is that cause of the domain change? |
| 16:25 | gmcharlt | nengard: yep, will fix it later today or tomorrow |
| 16:25 | nengard | okey dokey |
| 16:27 | owen | jwagner, I'm looking at bug 4464 now since FTEs are making my brain hurt |
| 16:27 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4464 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Editing a record with a 245a triggers warning about 245 is mandatory |
| 16:27 | owen | I tried entering a really long title and editing that, but I can't reproduce your issue |
| 16:27 | Is it only in older versions? | |
| 16:28 | chris_n` | gmcharlt: where do we subscribe to get commit emails? |
| 16:28 | gmcharlt | no change to subscription needed |
| 16:28 | nengard | https://lists.koha-community.o[…]info/koha-commits |
| 16:29 | chris_n are you subscribed now? if not then my link is for you - if so - they listen to gmcharlt :) | |
| 16:30 | chris_n` | nengard: thanks, I am now subscribed :) |
| 16:30 | gmcharlt: any more thoughts on getting munin to announce commits? | |
| 16:34 | gmcharlt | chris_n`: yep, it's desirable, but not at the top of my queue |
| 16:35 | jwagner | owen, sorry was off-screen for a minute. The site in production is at roughly .061, but I think my programmer's test environment is at current head. I'll doublecheck that with him. He reproduced the problem on his dev box. |
| 16:35 | owen | jwagner: I did this: open existing record, edit the 245a to make it very long. Save. Open the record again for editing, save again. |
| 16:36 | gmcharlt | owen: issue probably lies around line 130 of addbiblio.tmpl |
| 16:36 | I was able to reproduce the issue by artificially changing the threshhold to use textareas instead of inputs to 20 | |
| 16:36 | that part of the mandatory field check looks for <input> elements, but ignores textareas | |
| 16:37 | whole thng is a candidate for inserting jquery | |
| 16:37 | but for now, patching it to also take textareas for subfields into account is the least disruptive way to change it | |
| 16:38 | owen | Am I not doing the right thing to trigger the bug? |
| 16:39 | jwagner | owen, I just reproduced in my current head system. The workflow is importing the bib record (he gets his records from OCLC). Then open up in Koha to edit record. Save it, it triggers the error. |
| 16:39 | gmcharlt | in order to trigger the bug, you first have to save or import a record that has more than 100 characers in the 245 $a |
| 16:39 | wizzyrea | nengard: your blockquote p problem is fixed |
| 16:40 | owen | Long enough to trigger the textarea display, right? I've got that |
| 16:40 | jwagner | gmcharlt, could you add your notes to the bug report? |
| 16:40 | gmcharlt | to artificially change the size limit, adjust line 479 of addbiblio.pl |
| 16:40 | jwagner: feel free to copy-and-paste the chat | |
| 16:40 | nengard | thanks wizzyrea |
| 16:41 | jwagner | That was the workaround we were using, I think -- manually changing the size limit. Works as an immediate cure but isn't a good long-term fix. |
| 16:45 | * owen | is lost |
| 16:45 | jwagner | owen, did you get it to trigger the bug? I can send you a sample record to import that has the long title. |
| 16:45 | owen | What's the ISBN, I'll try to search for it |
| 16:47 | jwagner | Doesn't have one, it's a manuscript. OCLC # ocn612362974 |
| 16:47 | owen | ...but if all that's necessary to trigger the bug is a 245a textarea, I've got that. But no warning. |
| 16:48 | jwagner | Are you creating or editing the record from scratch in Koha to be longer than 100 chars? |
| 16:49 | * jwagner | just got the lunch order delivered, will be off eating Chinese food for a bit :-) |
| 16:49 | jwagner | There may be a difference between importing a record, then editing, versus creating/editing in Koha. |
| 16:49 | owen | Editing an existing record to be longer than 100chars; saving; Editing again. No warning. |
| 16:50 | Hm, a different check for new records? | |
| 16:51 | jwagner | Let me send you this record & you try to import -- what's your email? |
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| 16:55 | owen | jwagner: oleonardmyacpl.org |
| 16:55 | jwagner | On the way. |
| 16:55 | * owen | can't duplicate the problem even if he imports a new record and tries to save it with the same long title |
| 16:59 | owen | I see, the problem was that my tests used a record with a 245b, and the check must look for *any* subfield to be filled in (although is it possible to have a 245b with no 245a?) |
| 16:59 | gmcharlt | jwagner: check patch now attached to bug 4464 |
| 16:59 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4464 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Editing a record with a 245a triggers warning about 245 is mandatory |
| 17:00 | jwagner | Right, the workaround the site developed was to put a space in 245b |
| 17:01 | gmcharlt, wow! that was fast. | |
| 17:01 | I'll have the programmer check it . | |
| 17:02 | Or maybe I'll replicate it on my server in a few minutes -- I think he's in a meeting right now. | |
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| 17:08 | jwagner | gmcharlt++ that seems to have fixed it. MANY THANKS! |
| 17:09 | * collum | just received several trouble tickets because Google's pac-man logo is producing sound. |
| 17:09 | mib_mike | Hi, guys. My zebra index doesn't work. |
| 17:09 | Can anyone suggest a troubleshooting procedure? | |
| 17:09 | gmcharlt | jwagner: if you've of a mind to do so, please sign off on the patch (or have your programmer do so) and send to the patches list |
| 17:10 | mib_mike: step 1 of troubleshooting - on server, see if the zebrasrv proess is running | |
| 17:10 | ps -ef | grep zebrasrv | |
| 17:10 | mib_mike | I'm pretty sure it is, but give me a min. |
| 17:10 | jwagner | gmcharlt, I'll wait until he tests it to be sure -- I think I set the branch up & replicated properly, but he's the expert.... |
| 17:11 | mib_mike | I seem to have two |
| 17:12 | gmcharlt | mib_mike: double check that one of those two processes isn't the grep itself |
| 17:12 | mib_mike | daemon --name=koha-zebra-ctl.koha --errlog=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon.err --stdout=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon.log --output=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon-output.log --verbose=1 --respawn --delay=30 --user=koha koha -- /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml |
| 17:12 | /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml | |
| 17:13 | The second one was spawned from the first, so I guess that's the init.d script? | |
| 17:15 | gmcharlt | roughly speaking, yes |
| 17:16 | mib_mike | When I search the catalog, I get some hits, but not all, so I'm guessing its a problem with re-indexing. |
| 17:18 | This problem seems to roughly correspond to the installation of koha-3.02.00-alpha2.tar.gz | |
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| 17:22 | mib_mike | Any more zebra index troubleshooting ideas? |
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| 17:42 | mib_mike | If you're just joining us, I'm trying to find out how to fix my zebra index. |
| 17:42 | My zebrasrv is running. | |
| 17:42 | I get some results when I search the catalog, but not all | |
| 17:43 | My problems seemed to start about the time I upgraded my alpha to koha-3.02.00-alpha2.tar.gz | |
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| 18:39 | wizzyrea | before I go off all half baked |
| 18:40 | * jwagner | visualizes a half-baked wizzyrea |
| 18:40 | wizzyrea | NCIP is the successor to SIP, correct (I thought so, but it's friday and my brain's not working so well) |
| 18:40 | this is totally a lazyweb. | |
| 18:43 | whoa | |
| 18:43 | http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]xt.pl?RC=%2014595 | |
| 18:43 | I did not realize that 3M and Envisionware were going head to head | |
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| 18:51 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: NCIP qua successor to SIP2 is an interesting philosophical question :) |
| 18:51 | it was certainly intended to be such, but that didn't work out in practice due to the complexiity of NCIP | |
| 18:52 | wizzyrea | hmmm |
| 18:53 | gmcharlt | version 2 of NCIP is supposed to make it simpler |
| 18:53 | e.g., fewer messages to support | |
| 18:53 | but considering that 3M recently announced plans to define SIP3 | |
| 18:53 | wizzyrea | Interesting |
| 18:53 | doh | |
| 18:53 | gmcharlt | NCIP has a ways to go |
| 18:53 | wizzyrea | soo |
| 18:53 | in your opinion | |
| 18:53 | what should we be putting dev bucks towards | |
| 18:55 | or is that a philosophical question that is rife with conflict | |
| 18:58 | gmcharlt | depends on what you need |
| 18:58 | there are enough systems that speak NCIP 1.0 out there that it wouldn't be wasted if you have to communicate with such a system | |
| 18:59 | mib_mike | Does this "error" in the extended zebrasrv logs mean anything to anyone? http://mibpaste.com/J2iVuH |
| 18:59 | gmcharlt | and things like the XC NCIP toolkit might ease the pain |
| 19:02 | wizzyrea | hm. |
| 19:04 | gmcharlt | for *right* now, absent a specific reason to fund NCIP work, I'd lean more towards enhancing Koha's SIP2 support |
| 19:04 | but, YMMY, IAAFEV, etc. | |
| 19:06 | wizzyrea | i know our state ILL would rather be using NCIP than sip2 |
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| 19:18 | cait | hi #koha |
| 19:18 | wizzyrea | hi cait |
| 19:18 | jwagner | hi cait |
| 19:19 | cait | hi wizzyrea and jwagner |
| 19:19 | chris | morning |
| 19:21 | jwagner | morning chris |
| 19:21 | jdavidb | Hi, cait and chris! |
| 19:22 | owen | Hi chris, thanks for your work in moving Bugzilla |
| 19:22 | cait | hi jdavidb and good morning chris :) |
| 19:24 | chris | wizzyrea: the answer is yes (munin just messaged me) |
| 19:24 | owen: no problem | |
| 19:24 | wizzyrea | chris: ok cool |
| 19:33 | * chris | starts the normal weekend looking for things to do task |
| 19:36 | wizzyrea | you don't have a honeydew list? |
| 19:36 | mib_mike | Hi, Guys! Could a very full /tmp directory have something to do with my zebra reindexing problem? http://mibpaste.com/ujyXCX |
| 19:36 | wizzyrea | oh you mean fun things |
| 19:36 | lol | |
| 19:38 | mib_mike | I typed "ls /tmp" about 3 minutes ago and my terminal has yet to respond. |
| 19:38 | chris | that doesnt sound healthy at all |
| 19:38 | mib_mike | I know it's making ME sick. |
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| 19:42 | mib_mike | I know this isn't really the place to ask, but is there any way to tell what files in /tmp I can safely delete? |
| 19:42 | Still nothing on that "ls /tmp" | |
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| 19:46 | gmcharlt | mib_mike: in principle, *anything* in /tmp can be deleted at any time |
| 19:48 | mib_mike | If I started deleteing the directory zebra was using to index while it was indexing, that wouldn't be good |
| 19:48 | gmcharlt | well, true |
| 19:48 | mib_mike | But there's not really much else important on this box, so I supose I could risk deleting everything. |
| 19:49 | gmcharlt | but if you have a bunch of non-Zebra stuff in /tmp, you can lclear it |
| 19:49 | mib_mike | I'm betting its almost all zebra stuff, but I still haven't gotten a response from that "ls /tmp" |
| 19:49 | gmcharlt | also, you pass -d /name/of/directory to rebuild_zebra.pl to specify a different scratch directory |
| 19:49 | mib_mike | Of course, I wouldn't be able to tell anyway. |
| 19:50 | I'll give that "different directory a try. | |
| 19:51 | chris | hmmm, not much on today |
| 19:52 | mib_mike | I added "log" to $zebraidx_log_opt = " -v none,fatal,warn,log "; in rebuild_zebra, and got some interesting results |
| 19:52 | Well, maybe interesting, I can't really tell | |
| 19:52 | http://mibpaste.com/ztC1dk | |
| 19:53 | It looks like there's some bad marc somewhere, but how can I tell what record is bad? | |
| 19:54 | chris | can you do a df |
| 19:54 | that does look to me like it ran out of space exporting records | |
| 19:54 | mib_mike | Nothing is over 65% usage |
| 19:57 | It looks to me in the code like all the bibnumbers in my database are gathered in one go and then records are added. Is it possible my database is too big to rebuild_zebra.pl -r? | |
| 19:57 | I mean maybe it's a memory problem? | |
| 19:57 | chris | it would tell you that |
| 19:58 | 15:31:51-21/05 zebraidx(11061) [log] MARC: Bad directory | |
| 19:58 | mib_mike | I assumed that refered to the directory in the MARC record. |
| 19:58 | chris | is wht leads me to believe your hd is having trouble |
| 19:58 | mib_mike | i.e. the record was corrupted. |
| 19:58 | chris | nope |
| 19:59 | mib_mike | I thought I traced that to the c code in zebra |
| 19:59 | I'm getting results from ls /tmp now | |
| 20:00 | a lot of cgisess_XXXXXXXX | |
| 20:00 | wizzyrea | to me that would be another indicator that there's something awry with the HD |
| 20:00 | chris | yeah |
| 20:01 | wizzyrea | anytime it takes a long time to do something simple like ls on a directory, and it takes minutes instead of seconds... |
| 20:01 | that's a lot of thrashing | |
| 20:01 | chris | dmesg say anything? |
| 20:01 | mib_mike | Let me check. |
| 20:01 | ls is still running. | |
| 20:02 | chris | cos 10000 isnt a lot of records at all |
| 20:02 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 20:03 | mib_mike | 15:31:51-21/05 zebraidx(11061) [log] error grs.marcxml.record /tmp/o1Hiuwdkph/biblio/exported_records 18226621 |
| 20:04 | dmsg says some stuff, what am I looking for? | |
| 20:04 | chris | yeah but it stopped at 10000 |
| 20:04 | anything complaining about IO | |
| 20:05 | mib_mike | ls -l dmesg -rw-r----- 1 root adm 35256 2010-03-08 14:13 dmesg |
| 20:05 | Nothing since last restart | |
| 20:06 | ls is still listing cgisess_XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX | |
| 20:06 | wizzyrea | what else are you running on this serveR? |
| 20:06 | server, even | |
| 20:07 | mib_mike | Just koha components: apache, mysql, memchached maybe |
| 20:07 | there's a postfix for system use | |
| 20:08 | memcached is running | |
| 20:08 | wizzyrea | but you're not running a bunch of other webapps |
| 20:08 | mib_mike | no |
| 20:08 | chris | do you have the sessions set to use files instead of mysql? |
| 20:08 | wizzyrea | ok just checking |
| 20:08 | mib_mike | are you saying you don't recongnize cgisess_CCC as a koha temp file? |
| 20:09 | Uhm that was supposed to be cgisess_XXX | |
| 20:09 | chris | normally koha stores its session data in the sessions table in mysql |
| 20:09 | but you can tell it to do with temporary files | |
| 20:09 | mib_mike | How can I tell which setting I have? |
| 20:09 | wizzyrea | I have never seen it keep them in tmp |
| 20:09 | chris | its in system preferences |
| 20:09 | wizzyrea: you have to switch it on | |
| 20:10 | wizzyrea | ^^ is how it is in most similar apps, I figured it was there |
| 20:10 | but have never bothered with it >.> | |
| 20:10 | mib_mike | I don't see anything in system preferences under web services, where else might it be? |
| 20:10 | chris | just type session in the syspref search |
| 20:11 | id switch that, then id reboot the machine, (if you can) thats the fastest way to clear /tmp | |
| 20:11 | mib_mike | Yeah, it seems to be set "as temporary files" |
| 20:11 | chris | then id try the rebuild_zebra and specify a directory |
| 20:11 | and with -k | |
| 20:11 | to keep the records | |
| 20:12 | then if it explodes you can use marclint | |
| 20:12 | mib_mike | O.K. that sounds like a plan I can live with. |
| 20:12 | Wait, what's this about explodes? | |
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| 20:12 | JimmytheGeek | Anyone awake? |
| 20:12 | chris | now i have to go get my kids breakfast |
| 20:12 | mib_mike | I don't like explosions on a friday afternoon B-) |
| 20:13 | Thanks, chris! | |
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| 20:13 | JimmytheGeek | Hello, all. I'm attempting to set up koha on a fresh Debian install for testing. I'm running into an error when I try to invoke the Makefile.PL script |
| 20:14 | mib_mike | and thank you too wizzyrea! |
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| 20:16 | wizzyrea | you're welcome, though I mostly just came up with the same ideas as chris, more slowly :P |
| 20:16 | JimmytheGeek | Can't locate ZOOM.pm in @INC. Any ideas? |
| 20:16 | What's not getting installed properly/configured correctly? | |
| 20:17 | wizzyrea | did you get Net::z3950::ZOOM installed? |
| 20:18 | JimmytheGeek | how can I tell |
| 20:20 | cait | good night all |
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| 20:20 | wizzyrea | well I just learned |
| 20:21 | if you have perldoc installed | |
| 20:21 | you can perldoc perllocal | |
| 20:21 | and it will show you every perl module you have installed | |
| 20:21 | so | |
| 20:21 | sudo apt-get install perl-doc | |
| 20:21 | (ubuntu/debian) | |
| 20:21 | then perldoc perllocal | |
| 20:22 | JimmytheGeek | installing perldoc now |
| 20:22 | wizzyrea | but I'd guess you probably don't have Net::z3950::ZOOM |
| 20:23 | JimmytheGeek | nope. |
| 20:25 | wizzyrea | This may help you, the Install yaz and Zebra section |
| 20:25 | http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]uide_ubuntu_hardy | |
| 20:29 | JimmytheGeek | got it. I installed the libnet-z3950-zoom-perl and yaz-illclient packages & got the installer to work |
| 20:29 | Just needed a push into the right direction. Thanks, wizzyrea! | |
| 20:32 | wizzyrea | sure thing :) |
| 20:46 | JimmytheGeek | Hey, wizzyrea |
| 20:46 | What does this mean: make: *** [test_dynamic] Error 255 | |
| 20:47 | (after make test invocation) | |
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| 20:47 | wizzyrea | well |
| 20:48 | it may not matter | |
| 20:48 | see http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]-July/019309.html | |
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| 20:49 | JimmytheGeek | I like it. Just bang on through the wall! |
| 20:50 | wizzyrea | someone else may have another opinion on it, but I haven't ever seen that one, and the only other time it's documented it doesn't seem to matter |
| 20:50 | so | |
| 20:50 | * wizzyrea | shrugs |
| 20:50 | wizzyrea | :) |
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| 20:56 | JimmytheGeek | that's cool. Seems to work fine on this configuration |
| 21:01 | I must be doing something wrong | |
| 21:01 | Now I'm getting this: | |
| 21:01 | jimtestserv:~/kohaclone$ sudo update-rc.d koha-zebra-daemon defaults |
|
| 21:01 | update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon: file does not exist | |
| 21:01 | I hate to be a bother | |
| 21:02 | Step 5, option 2 | |
| 21:02 | wizzyrea | oh you mean starting the zebraqueue daemon? |
| 21:03 | JimmytheGeek | yes |
| 21:03 | wizzyrea | are you putting in your path instead of {SCRIPT_DIR} |
| 21:03 | JimmytheGeek | yes |
| 21:03 | wizzyrea | ok good (sorry, don't mean to be insulting, we get all levels of folks here) |
| 21:04 | JimmytheGeek | path = /usr/share/koha/bin/ in y case |
| 21:04 | np, I do tech support too | |
| 21:05 | wizzyrea | you've made the symlinks? |
| 21:05 | sudo ln -s ${SCRIPT_DIR}/koha-zebra-ctl.sh /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon | |
| 21:05 | JimmytheGeek | yes, and it appeared to work fine |
| 21:05 | wizzyrea | I'm wondering if there's a typo in there somewhere (I've done it, and it sucks because it's hard to find) |
| 21:06 | JimmytheGeek | let me look. damn typos! |
| 21:06 | wizzyrea | (don't be discouraged, if we don't get it figured out I'd pop back monday when half of the world isn't already into Saturday :) |
| 21:07 | moodaepo | @wunder 56001 |
| 21:07 | munin | moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is 19.2�C (4:05 PM CDT on May 21, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:07 | wizzyrea | @wunder 66045 |
| 21:07 | JimmytheGeek | crap. found it. I kinda forgot to type in the stuff past the PATH |
| 21:07 | munin | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 21.2�C (4:10 PM CDT on May 21, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:08 | wizzyrea | okies, just delete the old symlink and do it again |
| 21:08 | (I have done that too, can you tell >.>) | |
| 21:09 | JimmytheGeek | how do you do that again? Unfortunately, I don't do a lot of under-the-hood work in Linux |
| 21:09 | wizzyrea | sudo rm THE_FILE |
| 21:09 | JimmytheGeek | duh I knew that |
| 21:11 | when symlinks are created, the first entry in the command is the source file, right? | |
| 21:11 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 21:11 | JimmytheGeek | kk |
| 21:15 | plus, my zebra-ctl script was in a different place | |
| 21:15 | wizzyrea | aha! |
| 21:20 | JimmytheGeek | **light bulb** |
| 21:20 | also found an error in documentation | |
| 21:20 | wizzyrea | that documentation is old, and for older ubuntu |
| 21:20 | we are in process of moving/updating it all | |
| 21:20 | JimmytheGeek | Hmmmm.... |
| 21:20 | wizzyrea | it's kind of slow going :) |
| 21:21 | JimmytheGeek | Filepath shows INSTALL.debian-lenny |
| 21:21 | Just cut & paste? | |
| 21:21 | wizzyrea | oh oh |
| 21:21 | sorry | |
| 21:21 | you're looking at the install.X file | |
| 21:21 | I thought you were looking at the wiki | |
| 21:21 | sorry | |
| 21:23 | JimmytheGeek | yeah, couldn't find Lenny stuff too easily on the wiki |
| 21:24 | Step just before setting up the Zebraqueue daemon should leave out the $ | |
| 21:25 | wizzyrea | I think the $ denotes your linux prompt |
| 21:27 | JimmytheGeek | I'm talking about the one in the command, after 'sudo' & before {SCRIPT_DIR} |
| 21:28 | same results for zebraqueue daemon command as well | |
| 21:28 | brb | |
| 21:28 | wizzyrea | ah I see the one |
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| 21:33 | JimmytheGeek | I'm back |
| 21:37 | Okay. Attempt to start web installer gives failure to locate YAML.pm | |
| 21:38 | wizzyrea is now known as wizzyrea_away | |
| 21:42 | JimmytheGeek | well. I guess I'll just pop back in on Monday & catch everyone as they're sleeping |
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| 22:53 | libtek | I have a question about item records. I'm trying to figure out the logistics of Item Types. I understand that type define how items circulate (i.e. number of days, fines, etc.), however, in creating a type for the different way items circ is weird when it comes to showing types in the advanced search. No one cares about searching based on the way an item circs, but they do care about searching by format. Is there a way to crea |
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| 23:16 | chris_n | vacation time; see you'ns in about 9 days or so |
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