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brendan |
wow today disappeared |
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@wunder 93117 |
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munin` |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 20.9�C (5:12 PM PDT on May 19, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Falling). Wind Advisory in effect from 6 PM this evening to 6 am PDT Friday... |
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chris |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]-cellphone-ticket |
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funny |
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brendan |
yup that's funny |
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chilts |
lol |
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nml |
Hey guys, I recently downloaded the alpha2 release |
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But am experiencing a bug which I'm wondering if you have encountered before |
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When I attempt to add a new Label Template, I get the error |
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Undefined subroutine &main::GetAllLabelTemplates called at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/labels/label-templates.pl line 57. |
| 01:25 |
chris_n |
nml: is this a fresh install? or an upgrade? |
| 01:27 |
nml |
this is an upgrade from 3.00.04 |
| 01:38 |
chris_n |
something appears messed up then |
| 01:39 |
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adding a new template works fine on a clean install of alpha2 |
| 01:39 |
nml |
Would it be possible for, rather than using 'make upgrade' but 'make install' at the downloaded alpha2 code to install it fresh? |
| 01:40 |
chris_n |
did you install from a tarball? |
| 01:40 |
nml |
yes |
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Well, sorta |
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yes, actually :P |
| 01:41 |
chris_n |
did you 'perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /path/to/koha-install-log' ? |
| 01:41 |
nml |
Yes |
| 01:41 |
chris_n |
and where there any errors when the web installer ran? |
| 01:42 |
nml |
There were errors, but only that the tables only existed |
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I have a backup of my DB |
| 01:43 |
chris_n |
good |
| 01:43 |
nml |
But I am re-installing the alpha from scratch as I speak |
| 01:44 |
chris_n |
that is probably best as it looks like maybe your C4 libraries may have been messed up or something like that |
| 01:44 |
nml |
ok |
| 01:45 |
chris_n |
larsw: it sounds like your dump script could easily be called from inside the staff client to do an "on demand" dump of the db |
| 01:45 |
larsw |
chris_n, yes, except for performance issues |
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but it would be the library doing it to themselves, so that'd be ok |
| 01:46 |
chris_n |
right; I suspect such a dump could be painful in terms of resources, but hopefully it would be a sort of tool of last resort |
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* chris_n |
imagines the staff client option as more insurance than a regularly used tool |
| 01:48 |
nml |
chris_n: is there an easy way to get rid of all of the koha files on my system? |
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Both alpha and released files |
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chris_n |
I'm not 100% sure where the standard install sticks things, but yes it should be possible |
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chris_n |
g'night |
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kornelson |
hello people |
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anybody here |
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? |
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larsw |
mabye |
| 03:50 |
kornelson |
maybe o mabye xd |
| 03:50 |
larsw |
maybe :) |
| 03:50 |
kornelson |
ok i have a trouble |
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with the koha instalation, and i look for a help in internet but i cant fix the problem :( |
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sorry but my english is no good |
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larsw do you speak spanish? |
| 03:51 |
larsw |
no, sorry |
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kornelson |
lars this is my error |
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lock |
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http://www.pastebin.org/256417 |
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look |
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jaja |
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larsw |
kornelson, sorry, I do not know what the problem is -- I'm new to this stuff myself |
| 03:53 |
kornelson |
humm |
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some koha expert |
| 03:54 |
larsw |
sounds like a problem with the database interface, though |
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are you running mysql or postgres? |
| 03:54 |
kornelson |
mysql |
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i find a manual |
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for koha instalation and in the instrucctions puts mysql for db manage |
| 03:56 |
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hello? |
| 03:56 |
larsw |
I don't really know what to look for, sorry |
| 03:59 |
kornelson |
i'm look some expert in koha instalation :s |
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this is a channel for help us |
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:P |
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i supouse |
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chilts |
people help where they can |
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but people can't always help :) |
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kornelson |
yes |
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i know |
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but may be |
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happends a miracle |
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xD |
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sorry but my english is no good |
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chilts do you make any koha instalation ? |
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do you do any koha instalation? |
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Amit |
heya brendan, chris |
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chilts |
kornelson: as I said people will help if they can, and at the moment I can't ... sorry |
| 04:08 |
kornelson |
:( |
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ok |
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chilts |
personally though, it looks like a problem with DBD::MySQL (like an old version or something) |
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maybe not installed correctly |
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kornelson |
i don't know how to fix the problem. |
| 04:08 |
chilts |
AutoCommit should have been around for ages, so I think that's a sympton of something else |
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me neither I'm afraid |
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kornelson |
:O |
| 04:12 |
genji |
hmm.. |
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chilts |
have you got DBI and DBD::MySQL installed? |
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genji |
im getting a http::oai test fail |
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kornelson |
y supuse |
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supouse |
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mysql yes |
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but dbi i don't know |
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chilts |
I think you _do_ have DBI, but what about DBD::MySQL |
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? |
| 04:14 |
larsw |
would this be the way to test that, chilts: perl -e 'use DBD::MySQL;' |
| 04:14 |
chilts |
perl -MDBD::MySQL -e '1' |
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it'll either return nothing or explode :) |
| 04:15 |
kornelson |
Can't locate DBD/MySQL.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .). BEGIN failed--compilation aborted. |
| 04:15 |
chilts |
that's your first problem then |
| 04:15 |
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install DBD::MySQL |
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kornelson |
how to chilts |
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sorry |
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chilts |
good idea larsw |
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what OS are you on? |
| 04:15 |
kornelson |
it's my first time with this |
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debian |
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lenny |
| 04:16 |
chilts |
sudo apt-get install libdbd-mysql-perl |
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hmm, I fear you'll run into a lot of those problems if this one got you |
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kornelson |
jejej sorry |
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ok chilts |
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look |
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libdbd-mysql-perl ya está en su versión más reciente. |
| 04:18 |
genji |
anyone know about http oai badbytes? |
| 04:18 |
kornelson |
i have the most recent version |
| 04:21 |
chris |
i think its lower case |
| 04:22 |
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perl -MDBD::mysql -e '1' |
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try that |
| 04:22 |
chilts |
but if it is installed, the why is it blowing up in C4::Auth? |
| 04:22 |
chris |
its autocommit that is spazzing |
| 04:23 |
chilts |
there is something strange afoot at the Circle K |
| 04:23 |
chris |
yeah what i would try |
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is apt-get remove libdbd-mysql-perl |
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cpan DBD::mysql |
| 04:24 |
genji |
okay, im trying to install koha 3.0.6 and HTTP::OAI is failing its badbytes test. |
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so,, won't install. |
| 04:26 |
chris |
http://markmail.org/thread/i6wzmspwpttoyyvg |
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seems others have had this problem, ive never run into it before though |
| 04:26 |
kornelson |
chris i remove libdbd-mysql-perl ? |
| 04:26 |
genji |
ah.. not for me, that mail... hmm... |
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Amit |
heya genji |
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kornelson |
chilts |
| 04:30 |
genji |
hey amit. |
| 04:30 |
brendan |
hey amit |
| 04:30 |
genji |
gah.... what does http::oai have to do with bad bytes? |
| 04:32 |
kornelson |
fuck. sorry but i don't know what to do |
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with this error |
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:( i'm desesperated |
| 04:33 |
chris |
try apt-get remove libdbd-mysql-perl |
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then install it again |
| 04:34 |
chilts |
sounds like there is something weird with your system |
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yeah, try that :) |
| 04:34 |
chris |
im not sure it will do anything |
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but other people seemed to think it worked :) |
| 04:34 |
genji |
.... -sigh- |
| 04:35 |
kornelson |
ok |
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jejejej |
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i try but appear other error |
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Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 666. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 30. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 30. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/mainpage.pl line 23. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/intranet/ |
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:( |
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chris |
is mysql-server running? |
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kornelson |
what command shows mysql is still running |
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chris |
are you getting these errors when running the web installer? |
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kornelson |
nop. |
| 04:38 |
chris |
where? |
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kornelson |
ok wait i reboot my machine |
| 04:39 |
chris |
have you run the web installer? |
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no dont do that |
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kornelson |
that errors ocurred when i type http://127.0.1.1:8080 |
| 04:39 |
cait |
good morning all |
| 04:39 |
chris |
ah so you are running the web installer, ok cool |
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id do a |
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kornelson |
chris i don't know what happend with mysql |
| 04:40 |
chris |
sudo /etc/init.d/mysql-server restart |
| 04:40 |
kornelson |
jojo mysql-server no existe el fichero o el directorio |
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:S |
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no appear |
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chris |
ls /etc/init.d |
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kornelson |
in init.d the files are mysql and others but not mysql server |
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chris |
try just mysql then |
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kornelson |
ok |
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ok i type the command but nothing happend, but before the command works, ok i reboot the machine, i work in a virtual machine |
| 04:42 |
chris |
worth a try |
| 04:42 |
kornelson |
please wait 2 minutes |
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thanks |
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chilts |
sounds like a broken machine to me |
| 04:42 |
chris |
normally you dont connect to it on the socket anyway, but on a port |
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kornelson |
broken machine? what tha means? |
| 04:43 |
chilts |
maybe it's also the networking between his machine (where he is trying http://127.0.1.1:8080) and the virtual machine |
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that's what I reckon |
| 04:43 |
chris |
could be |
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kornelson |
yes i write the sentence but the error still appear |
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:S |
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koha error |
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chilts |
kornelson: do you have MySQL and Koha on the same machine (either physical or virtual)? |
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kornelson |
can¡'t conect to local mysql server |
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yes |
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in the same machine |
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chilts |
and that's the virtual machine? |
| 04:44 |
chris |
still using the socket? |
| 04:44 |
kornelson |
i'm installed debian lenny in a virtual machine with virtualbox |
| 04:44 |
chilts |
hmm, see if you can connect to mysql from the command line ... I forget what the command args are though |
| 04:45 |
kornelson |
and i tray to configure in local the koha instalation |
| 04:45 |
chris |
mysql -uusername -p koha |
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so probably |
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chilts |
chris: would he need a port in that somewhere? |
| 04:45 |
chris |
mysql -ukohaadmin -p koha |
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chilts |
ah cool |
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kornelson |
hey |
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mysql not work |
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mysql command not found |
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:( i don't know what happend |
| 04:46 |
chris |
sudo apt-get install mysql-server |
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kornelson |
before mysql works |
| 04:46 |
chilts |
sudo apt-get install mysql-client |
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chris |
and that |
| 04:46 |
chilts |
need client too (just as a test) |
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:) |
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kornelson |
ok |
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whait a minute |
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i need to download 34.5mb |
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and i have only 1mb conection |
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ok once waiting i'm read the next irc log and i follow the sentences but don't fix the problem |
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http://stats.workbuffer.org/ir[…]g/koha/2010-03-14 |
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35% |
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85% |
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CGI686 |
hola |
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nelsin |
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que aburrido es esto |
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kornelson |
ok finish and now install mysql client |
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ok chilst |
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i'm finish |
| 04:54 |
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i', write again http://127.0.1.1:8080 and the same problem persist :( |
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? |
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the same error continues |
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:( |
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i'm surrended i don't know to do :( |
| 05:03 |
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? |
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chilts |
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:( |
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chilts |
I have no idea, I'm sorry |
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kornelson |
but i'm installed sql server and client |
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kornelson |
ok |
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i come back tomorrow |
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kornelson |
thank for your help |
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thanks for you help |
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:P |
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chris chilts |
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quit |
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bye |
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brendan |
alright night #koha |
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* brendan |
sleeps |
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magnus |
good time of the day, #koha |
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or night |
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hdl |
hi |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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chris |
evening |
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hdl |
hi chris? |
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chris |
hi hdl |
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hdl |
howdy ? |
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chris |
not bad thanks, and you? |
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hdl |
quite good. |
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chris |
https://www.ohloh.net/p/koha/download |
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220 downloads of 3.0.6 from download.koha-community .. and 52 with all translations |
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not bad in only 4 days |
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chris |
cant sleep chris_n` ? |
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mason |
oooh, nice ohloh site |
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kf1 |
wizzyrea around? |
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kf1 is now known as kf |
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chris |
http://download.koha-community.org/ |
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hows that look now? |
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chris_n` is now known as chris_n |
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chris_n |
g'morning |
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download looks good chris |
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but the Koha log is full left in my browser |
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Amit |
heya chris_n |
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chris |
the logo? |
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k |
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hmm now ive made it disappear totally |
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css makes my brain hurt |
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i think ill leave it like that and get wizzyrea to fix it :) |
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magnus |
chris: lookin' good |
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perhaps the two links to the "current" downloads could be made to stand out more? make them look like buttons or something? |
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* magnus |
heads to the kitchen in search of lunch |
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chris |
added strong tags |
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chris_n |
bbiab |
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kmkale |
Good evening all |
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Amit |
heya kmkale |
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kmkale |
hi Amit |
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kmkale |
@weather mumbai\ |
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munin` |
kmkale: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error |
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kmkale |
@weather mumbai |
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munin` |
kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 31.0�C (4:40 PM IST on May 20, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 26.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). |
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* jdavidb |
harrumphs. |
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* owen |
says in the voice of David Attenborough, 'The call of the wild jdavidb!' |
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* jwagner |
harrumphs back |
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jwagner |
@quote random |
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munin` |
jwagner: Quote #32: "<wizzyrea> oh, things are not right in the world .... oh good, that makes me feel better. it's just the govt" (added by jdavidb at 09:56 AM, September 09, 2009) |
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jdavidb |
@quote random |
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munin` |
jdavidb: Quote #41: "owen: Being an ass doesn't qualify as a medical condition ;)" (added by jwagner at 11:13 AM, October 16, 2009) |
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schuster |
wizzyrea - here yet? |
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Howdy all. |
| 12:36 |
jdavidb |
hi, schuster! |
| 12:36 |
schuster |
jdavidb - that line of code did wonders for my inventory and I have some very excited librarians. imagine that one... Scarry. |
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jdavidb |
Awesome. :) |
| 12:37 |
kmkale |
what the heck is 620$a anyone? |
| 12:37 |
jdavidb |
Bring some of that excitement with you to ALA, eh? |
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@marc 620 |
| 12:37 |
munin` |
jdavidb: unknown tag 620 |
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kmkale |
none here too http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd6xx.html |
| 12:38 |
schuster |
kmkale - pulling out my handy MARC bibliographic ... There isn't such a thing. |
| 12:38 |
kmkale |
i have it slapped on as keywords |
| 12:38 |
jdavidb |
In Unimarc, it is the "Printer of illustrations or designs from plates" |
| 12:38 |
schuster |
So what do you have in that tag currently? - ah ... Unimarc. |
| 12:38 |
kmkale |
any idea where keywords should go? |
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no its marc21 |
| 12:39 |
schuster |
What's in it? maybe it was coded wrong and should be a 520 - summary? |
| 12:39 |
jdavidb |
schuster++ |
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kmkale |
sample data "Microcomputer,Central Processing Unit, Secondary Storage, Techniques of Programming " |
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jdavidb |
that sounds like a 650 Subject. |
| 12:41 |
schuster |
not authorized... very odd - where did the data come from? |
| 12:41 |
jdavidb |
(kinda sloppy to be an LCSH heading, but it's structured more-or-less right. |
| 12:41 |
kmkale |
Title from the above sample data in 620$a is " A Guide to Fortran Programming" |
| 12:41 |
schuster |
Does your record have a 040? - that is supposed to help track where it "came from" |
| 12:42 |
gmcharlt |
kmkale: your 620 looks like a local field for topical keywords |
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kmkale |
no schuster its a very slipshod marc data I need to port to Koha |
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kmkale |
would you say it looks better for 650 then? |
| 12:43 |
gmcharlt |
for a slightly better place to stick the 620, I'd recommend a 690, which is more commonly used for local, uncontrolled subject terms |
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kmkale |
will 690 show up in subjects in opac? |
| 12:43 |
schuster |
It does look better for a 690 - just hope they never think of doing authority work...:) |
| 12:43 |
gmcharlt |
hmm, or better yet, 653 |
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@marc 653 |
| 12:44 |
munin` |
gmcharlt: An index term added entry that is not constructed by standard subject heading/thesaurus-building conventions. (Repeatable) [a,6,8] |
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kmkale |
:) they havent heard of authority yet and its only for opac in granthalaya.org |
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schuster |
Might recommend that library run a report on those after they migrate and explore "new" standard records for their data... But again if they are not stickler librarians then it won't matter. |
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gmcharlt 653++ |
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kmkale |
schuster: they wont be using Koha for staff use yet. Its only for the union catalouge at granthalaya.org |
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schuster |
kmkale - if you can break that string into mulitples it might help in the long run. ie 4 different 653 tags. |
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kmkale |
I can break it up on the ,'s will the broken up terms then be more useful in some other tag? |
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huh 520 is grandly assigned to a column called remarks |
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schuster |
no it just makes it easier in the long run if they do need to change something or there are common terms in a subject type browse. |
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kmkale |
:( |
| 12:51 |
schuster |
520's are generally a "summary" of what the book is about - often found with fiction books and they don't have subject headings. |
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I would again go for the 653 |
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kmkale |
right thanks schuster gmcharlt |
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one more please I have a column titled Subject. data is "History" or "Grammer" or "Essay" or "Encyclopedia" etc etc. would you say 655? |
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@marc 655 |
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munin |
kmkale: Terms indicating the genre, form, and/or physical characteristics of the materials being described. A genre term designates the style or technique of the intellectual content of textual materials or, for graphic materials, aspects such as vantage point, intended purpose, or method of representation. A form term designates historically and functionally specific kinds of materials distinguished by their (1 more message) |
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kmkale |
@marc 655 |
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munin |
kmkale: Terms indicating the genre, form, and/or physical characteristics of the materials being described. A genre term designates the style or technique of the intellectual content of textual materials or, for graphic materials, aspects such as vantage point, intended purpose, or method of representation. A form term designates historically and functionally specific kinds of materials distinguished by their (1 more message) |
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kmkale |
how do I get the (1 more message) part? |
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chris_n |
@more |
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munin |
chris_n: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick. |
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chris_n |
@more kmkale |
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munin |
chris_n: physical character, the subject of their intellectual content, or the order of information within them. Physical characteristic terms designate historically and functionally specific kinds of materials as distinguished by an examination of their physical character, subject of their intellectual content, or the order of information with them. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,v,x,y,z,2,3,5,6,8] |
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kmkale |
aahh thanks chris_n |
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gmcharlt |
kmkale: yep, 655 sounds like the right choice for that |
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kmkale |
cool. thanks again |
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jwagner |
Got a philosophical question of sorts for people. See Bug 3788, where I did a patch to make the OPAC obey the staff viewISBD syspref. I've also had requests to turn off display of the MARC View and Expanded MARC View in the OPAC. |
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munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3788 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jmf liblime.com, RESOLVED FIXED, XSLT does not obey viewISBD syspref |
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owen |
OpacUserCSS |
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jwagner |
There are staff sysprefs controlling these -- viewMARC and viewLabeledMARC. However, I figured out how to hide them in OPAC with jquery. Would OPAC sysprefs be preferable, or stick with jquery? |
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(OPAC does not obey the existing staff sysprefs) |
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owen |
jwagner: I think that if we offer a switch to turn off one view, we should offer switches for the others as well |
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If someone wants to set the bibliodefaultview to ISBD and eliminate other choices that should be possible (even if I think they're crazy) |
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jwagner |
That's what I was kind of thinking -- for consistency & ease of understanding. But since these _can_ be hidden with jquery, I wanted to get people's feelings on it. |
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While I'm at it, I want to do some sysprefs to turn off some more of the tabs in OPAC patron account -- I have a couple of sites that don't want the account info itself visible/editable. I figured out how to hide the submit button so patrons can't submit changes, but hiding the whole tab is preferable. |
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(These sites get automatic patron loads and don't want the data changed) |
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I'm thinking either change the markup to add IDs to all the tabs (don't think there are now), or sysprefs for them. |
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gmcharlt |
jwagner: one suggestion for the sysprefs - rather than have an on/off syspref for each variation of such things, a single syspref (e.g., an OPACBibViews) that had a list of checkboxes would be more compact |
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ditto for things like the patron account tabs |
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it would require a bit of coding as well to have a generic 'choices' syspref option |
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jwagner |
That kind of edges into something I've been thinking about, but don't know how to do -- instead of having the OPAC layout controlled by a lot of sysprefs, take all that into a separate configuration page. |
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gmcharlt |
yeah, I think somebody (wizzyrea?) mentioned the idea of having OPAC configuration be done using a more widget-based approach, a la WordPress |
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jwagner |
It would certainly make new installs easier -- present the site with all the options in one place |
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Right now the relevant sysprefs are scattered around, mostly under OPAC but some under searching and I think some under patron & admin. |
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(Enhanced Content would have to be its own separate page, I think) |
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kmkale |
one more please. freeform name of the supplier 037$b or 530$b ? |
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@marc 037 |
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munin |
kmkale: Information needed to order the item or its reproduction. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,f,g,n,6,8] |
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kmkale |
@marc 530$b |
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munin |
kmkale: unknown tag 530$b |
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kmkale |
@marc 530 |
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munin |
kmkale: Availability information concerning a different physical format in which the described item is available. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,u,3,6,8] |
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kmkale |
:( any tag for donor of a book? there is a column for Donor |
| 13:36 |
schuster |
We have generally put donor in as a 500 general note or on the item record itself - copy statement. |
| 13:36 |
nahuel |
kyle_away, ping |
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schuster |
owen - or others question... On the borrower - print - not the slip but the full record - it doesn't have barcode, but has "format". Is that easy to change? I can't figure out where that is being called from. |
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members/moremember.pl?borrowernumber=157443&print=page - end of url for print page. |
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owen |
"format" is definitely incorrect, since not all libraries use collection codes as format designators |
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nengard_ |
jwagner - just catching up |
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when you talk about the patron account are you talking about the info about the patron? or the 'fines' ? |
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schuster |
nengard_ - talking to schuster? |
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nengard_ |
talking to jwagner |
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schuster |
ok :) smiles to you... |
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nengard_ |
jwagner if you mean the patron details - see Bug 4127 |
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munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4127 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, make OPACPatronDetails a choice with 3 options |
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owen |
schuster: If you wanted to hack the template you'd open up moremember-print.tmpl and add <!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="barcode" --> |
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schuster |
Way cool thanks owen. makes jwagner and jdavidb shutter... :) |
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owen |
I would think it would be a worthwhile change to make officially |
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* jdavidb |
shudders a little |
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* owen |
is pretty sure that template hasn't been changed in years |
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schuster |
I'll see about getting my support company to do that submission as I don't have anything close to head right now. |
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jwagner |
Sorry, folks, got pulled away for a quickie meeting, catching up. |
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nengard, yes, that would do what I want for patron details. |
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owen |
Item call number would be better to show than item type |
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jwagner |
I think I may go ahead and just add markup IDs to all the tabs so people can hide individual ones if needed. |
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owen |
jwagner: Aren't they already marked with IDs? |
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jwagner |
owen, doesn't look like it. |
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owen |
Are you talking about the tabs on opac-detail for Normal, MARC, etc? |
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jwagner |
owen, sorry, conflating two different suggestions. The opac-detail tabs have IDs, but the patron account tabs don't |
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And just to make schuster and jdavidb REALLY shudder -- I think it would be most useful if the circ slips (and acq suggestion messages) got transformed into notice files, so libraries could edit the text themselves :-) |
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* jdavidb |
shudders a little more. |
| 13:54 |
schuster |
Doesn't make me shudder makes me go hmmm great idea! My librarians really like the format of this moremembers-print.tmpl - if only I could force a run of ID's through it to get printouts on demand... |
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owen |
Nice idea schuster |
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schuster |
I feel a new enhancement coming on... If I could do the overdue - warning page - and when that comes up with my data - say "print" and it used the moremembers-print.tmpl as the template to generate the printout... PERFECT! |
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The more I learn the more money I need for enhancements! |
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schuster |
owen - OH MY GOSH - that was just too easy. It's the little things. AND YES - I keep paper copies and notes of all these types of changes I do on my production server for future upgrades. |
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* owen |
contemplates this "paper" uncomprehendingly |
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jwagner |
owen, it's filed next to clay tablets :-) |
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libtek |
Good morning. |
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schuster |
So I can make my local customizations again and recreate if needed. Some of the things I "tweak" are really Plano ISD related. |
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Odd thing though... I placed a hold and filled it but that isn't showing up on the print options even though it looks to be coded...??? |
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Slip and full. Anyone else have that or did I screw something else up when I modified my moremember-print.tmpl? |
| 14:20 |
libtek |
Anyone know how to confirm that the crontab is running? I've got a job in it to reindex every 5 minutes, but it hasn't done it yet. |
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nengard |
yes |
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oops - wrong window - sorry |
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owen |
Did y'all see massoud's email to the list about that NZ high school OPAC? |
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Nice: http://library.ashs.school.nz/ |
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nengard |
need me some regex help .... can anyone tell me the regex to change this date: 20100312124151.0 into a mysql friendly date? |
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kmkale |
bye all |
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gmcharlt |
nengard: in Perl, $date =~ s/^(\d{4})(\d{2})(\d{2})/$1-$2-$3/; |
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nengard |
gmcharlt you rock! |
| 15:05 |
gmcharlt |
assuming that you care only about the date portion, and not the time |
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nengard |
that should be a-ok |
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gmcharlt |
gah |
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nengard |
? |
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gmcharlt |
nengard: in Perl, $date =~ s/^(\d{4})(\d{2})(\d{2}).*/$1-$2-$3/; |
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chris_n |
see also C4::Dates |
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gmcharlt |
that will work better |
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nengard |
i'm using it in marcedit chris_n - so i just needed the regex |
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gmcharlt |
yep, in context of Koha code, C4::Dates routines shoudl be preferred over custom date manipulation code |
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marcedit is a different story, of course |
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nengard |
gmchart, yes it is |
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a different story |
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but with this i should be able to figure it out - or if someone wants to write it for marcedit i'll take it :) |
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libtek |
Anyone know how to confirm that the crontab is running? I've got a job in it to reindex every 5 minutes, but it hasn't done it yet. |
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jwagner |
libtek, the every-5-minute cron won't do anything if the zebra daemon itself isn't running. Have you checked that? |
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libtek |
I turned it on. Is there a way I can check the status? |
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The indexes are showing, as I had to turn it on to see things in the catalog. However, that is all I know at this point. |
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wizzyrea |
gmcharlt: <3 I love ethat idea |
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and yea, I've probably mentioned it several times |
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http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Coding_Guidelines |
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but please look this over for correctness |
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anybody who has a minute |
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libtek |
I did the sudo ln -s ${SCRIPT_}/koha-zebra-ctl.sh /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon |
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wizzyrea |
omgosh, just answered a question from like an hour ago |
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sheesh |
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libtek |
then the sudo update-rc.d koha-zebra-daemon defaults |
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then sudo ${SCRIPT_DIR}/koha-zebra-ctl.sh start |
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chris_n |
nengard: what I meant was that I believe there are regexps in there that would serve to to that conversion |
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but gmcharlt has answered the question :) |
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nengard |
chris_n yeah - it's just that I wasn't doing it on the server, so I didn't think it would help :) |
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chris_n |
wizzyrea, gmcharlt: personally, I'd like to see the license section moved to the license section of the pod so that it shows up when one does perldoc C4::foo |
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wizzyrea |
chris_n: I should note that I didn't write that, I just converted it fromt he old wiki to the new |
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mostly I want to know if I mucked anything up converting the wiki syntax |
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but you could add that as a meeting agenda item :) |
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chris_n |
looks fine to me; there are some lines near the bottom that run out of the window |
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maybe they should wrap |
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in the 3.4 proposals |
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wizzyrea |
okies fixed |
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anybody have any idea what he is referring to? http://koha-community.org/down[…]ge-1/#comment-469 |
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suppose we should ask for clarification |
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owen |
wizzyrea: Is there a site-wide feed for comments on koha-community.org? |
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wizzyrea |
good question... let me look |
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it's wordpress, there should be |
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wizzyrea |
http://koha-community.org/comments/feed/ |
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owen |
wizzyrea++ |
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wordpress++ |
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I'll subscribe even though I end up seeing a comment from Ben Ide in the process |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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I think I've asked this before... and I kind of remember the answer |
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nobody wants a forum type thing for koha, right? |
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< wondering because we keep getting people asking questions in unpublished posts on the site, lol |
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owen |
People have proposed it in the past, but the consensus among developers is that it would distract from the mailing list, and would be too much to keep track of |
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wizzyrea |
ok, yea that's what I thought |
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owen |
If we're the ones who are going to be answering questions, we need to limit the venues if we're to keep up |
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wizzyrea |
hm maybe threaded comments would suffice. |
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* owen |
pretty much hates forums because it requires visiting a web site again and again and that's so 2003. |
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wizzyrea |
^^ agreed |
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forums only seem to work for WoW guilds |
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:P |
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wizzyrea |
< can say that, as I have shepherded several WoW guilds' web presences |
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jdavidb |
you really *are* a masochist, aren't you, wizzyrea? |
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wizzyrea |
I know! |
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gamers are fun... until they're not |
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jdavidb |
Once is a bad idea; twice is masochism...more than that... |
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* wizzyrea |
can't help it... she likes mucking about with weird online tools |
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jdavidb |
I've been investing in big bags of Drama Llama Chow in my MMO. Very annoying for a non-pk environment. |
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* jdavidb |
is the wierd hippy peacenik. |
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schuster |
renewal question - when I check out the book it makes it due next year 5/18/2011 like it should. If I renew another book on that borrower it only renews it for 30 days. ??? |
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libtek |
Anyone know how to confirm that the crontab is running? |
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I have */5 * * * * KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib/ /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z >/dev/null set as the koha user, but nothing has happened yet. |
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libtek |
I am finding if I run the rebuild manually "/usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z >/dev/null", it runs, but nothing changes. If I change the -z switch to a -r switch, it runs, and the changes take affect. Any ideas? Should I change this switch in the crontab? Any issues with doing it this way? I don't really know what the switches do yet. |
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gmcharlt |
http://perldoc.koha-community.org/ |
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chris_n |
cool |
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it has some strange formatting in some places, but looks nice overall |
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gmcharlt |
suggestions to changes to the stylesheet welcome |
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collum |
that is cool |
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gmcharlt: does some of the strange formatting come from the associated perl file? |
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gmcharlt |
collum: quite possibly - depends on what you mean by strange formatting |
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collum |
http://perldoc.koha-community.[…]qui/supplier.html |
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gmcharlt |
collum: yep, that's due to bad POD |
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missing a space between the =head1 DESCRIPTION and the next paragraph |
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collum |
ah |
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gmcharlt |
the HTML gets refreshed daily |
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cait |
gmcharlt++ :) |
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collum |
I second that. gmcharlt++ |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: I notice that there is both http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Coding_Guidelines and http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Coding_Guidelines |
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merging those would be good - I like the code formatting from the former, the TOC from the other |
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chris_n |
heay chris_n` |
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chrisd |
Hi all. I'm trying to still figure some things out zebra and i figured I would ask here. What is the difference between zebraqueue and the rebuild_zebra.pl script? In normal day to day cataloging should the zebraqueue be running? |
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chris_n |
chrisd: zebraqueue should not be run at all |
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chrisd |
I've loaded 10000 records with zebraqueue off and then after the load I turned it on and it was putting a load on the processor. Then I turned it off and ran rebuild_zebra.pl and then turned it on again and was ok |
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libtek |
Does this happen to anyone else? When I import a record from z39.50 and then add an item, I end up with two bibs for the item and the item is attached to one of them, and the other bib has no holdings. |
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chrisd |
Is this the order i'm supposed to do it in? Load records -> rebuild_zebra.pl -> Turn zebraqueue on |
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I think i'm not getting the big picture of what zebraqueue and rebuild_zebra.pl does |
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owen |
libtek: What's your browser? |
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libtek |
IE8 |
| 18:02 |
owen |
Bug 3774 |
| 18:02 |
munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3774 minor, P5, ---, oleonardmyacpl.org, NEW, Original Cataloging leading to duplicate biblio records in Internet Explorer |
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libtek |
Nice. Anyone know if this is something that has to be corrected in IE, or in Koha? |
| 18:05 |
owen |
I've only begun to look at the bug, and I don't know where the problem lies yet. |
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libtek |
owen: are you the Owen L that commented on this bug? |
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jdavidb |
there can be only one! |
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owen |
libtek: Yes |
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libtek: But I don't know that I tried to add an item at the same time as you say you did |
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libtek |
owen: I was just going to mention that. I think that might be where part of the issue lies. |
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* owen |
tries it |
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libtek |
I'll try adding the bib and then adding the holding later and see if there is any difference. |
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chris_n |
chrisd: you should never run zebraqueue daemon; setup rebuild_zebra.pl to run as a cronjob every N minutes where N is whatever works for your catalogers |
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chrisd |
chris_n: ok. so rebuild_zebra.pl is what adds the record to the index? |
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chris_n |
correct |
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chrisd |
chris_n: but zebraqueue is supposed to run at startup? |
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chris_n |
chrisd: you should permanently remove zebraqueue |
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ie. never run it, ever |
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:) |
| 18:22 |
libtek |
owen: yep, the bug is specific to adding the holding at the same time you add the bib. It behaves much better adding it separately. Too bad. :( Doing both at the same time really streamlined things. |
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at least there is a work around. Using another browser is not an option unfortunately. |
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chrisd |
chris_n: :) ok still confused as to why it's in the instructions then. I'm missing the big picture bear with me. |
| 18:23 |
owen |
libtek: Definitely unfortunate. IT policy? |
| 18:24 |
libtek |
chrisd: you are not alone. I suffered the same problem when I was getting things up (a day or two ago!) |
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owen: yep |
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owen |
(the most security-backwards IT policy ever) |
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chris_n |
chrisd: there are patches in the queue to remove references to zebraqueue from the INSTALL documentation |
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it is deprecated due to an unresolved memory leak among other issues |
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libtek |
chris_n: woohoo! :) |
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* chris_n |
thinks one zebra is hard enough to handle, much less a whole queue of them ;-) |
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chrisd |
chris_n cool. Thanks for the help |
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* owen |
still can't reproduce Bug 3774 |
| 18:26 |
munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3774 minor, P5, ---, oleonardmyacpl.org, NEW, Original Cataloging leading to duplicate biblio records in Internet Explorer |
| 18:27 |
libtek |
by the way, I changed out the -z switch with the -r switch instead on the rebuild in crontab, and the job is reindexing properly now. Don't know why it doesn't work per the instructions. |
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chris_n |
libtek: I seem to recall similar issues caused by permission problems: everything zebra related must be owned by your kohauser |
| 18:29 |
libtek |
as far as I know, it is. I'm not changing anything else when running the rebuild, so I'm not sure why -r will do it and -z won't. |
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when I run it manually, I get the same results. If I use the -z it doesn't work, but the -r switch does. From the koha user. |
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Anyway, it works. |
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going to lunch...be back in an hour. :) |
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* owen |
tried again and failed to reproduce Bug 3774 |
| 18:38 |
munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3774 minor, P5, ---, oleonardmyacpl.org, NEW, Original Cataloging leading to duplicate biblio records in Internet Explorer |
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* owen |
...and got hives from using IE for 10 minutes |
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chris_n |
hehe |
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* chris_n |
hands owen a bag of Cheetos |
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hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: nice. |
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owen |
Sure IE8 is more standards compliant, but it's still /really damn slow/! |
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hdl_laptop |
(perldoc.koha-community.org) |
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nelsonlib |
hey everyone, I've recently done a fullly clean install of the latest download from git |
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And am trying to import the biblios and items from the previous 3.00.04 install's DB backup |
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owen |
Hi nelsonlib, I work at the Nelsonville Public Library. Do you too? |
| 18:43 |
nelsonlib |
However, I am experiencing a problem where I can see that the record has items in the 'Search' view, but no holdings or items are displayed in the record details |
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So I suppose, the question is: what DB tables need to be filled in order for all of the appropriate information to appear |
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joetho |
! |
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nelsonlib |
owen: I work at the Nelson Memorial Library around Worcester, MA |
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owen |
:) |
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joetho |
It's evidently a Nelson thing. |
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nelsonlib |
Hah possibly |
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owen |
nelsonlib: The items table is the one which stores holdings. |
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Take the biblionumber from one of the titles in your search results which says it has items. Query the items table based on that |
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If your zebra index isn't up to date it might be showing you items which aren't there. |
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* owen |
isn't sure a zebra index could be out of date based on a previous install? |
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nelsonlib |
Ok, let me take a look at my items table |
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joetho |
"full clean install" = |
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nelsonlib |
Haha |
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Yeah, it looks like my biblio and biblioitems tables are full |
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joetho |
so zebra |
| 18:49 |
nelsonlib |
But items has no records, let me fix that and see what will happen |
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wizzyrea |
omg gmcharlt.... perldoc.koha-community.org = wowie! |
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joetho |
you may find this earlier zebra discussion useful, starts around 20:00 |
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http://stats.workbuffer.org/ir[…]g/koha/2010-05-19 |
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whoops, make that 22:00 |
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particularly since this is a new clean install- I thought the zebrasrv notes may be apropos |
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wizzyrea |
der, how do you delete a wiki page? |
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I accidentally created a dupe |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: your wiki account needs to be an administrator to do that |
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wizzyrea |
aha |
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gmcharlt |
not that I'd mind giving you that |
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which page? |
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wizzyrea |
enhancement submission guidelines |
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gmcharlt |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ission_Guidelines ? |
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wizzyrea |
yep, that's the one |
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<3 thanks |
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* owen |
warns Don't do it she's mad with power! |
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wizzyrea |
MUA HAHAHAHAHAHA |
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* wizzyrea |
didn't ask for it, you'll note |
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wizzyrea |
;) |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: it's gone |
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wizzyrea |
brilliant, thanks |
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gmcharlt |
speaking of power-mad villians, I saw Dr. Horrible's sing along blog for the first time last night |
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wizzyrea |
hehe, did you like it? |
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gmcharlt |
I did |
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gmcharlt |
I started on the musical commentary track, but didn't have time to finish - I'll be curious to see if they managed to keep it up the entire time |
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wizzyrea |
hehe! |
| 19:07 |
* wizzyrea |
has been more than a little addicted to Torchwood lately |
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wizzyrea |
anything else you wantt o link to from here? |
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http://koha-community.org/get-[…]d/for-developers/ |
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want to* |
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* wizzyrea |
is cleaning up links to old koha.org stuffs |
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wizzyrea |
oh good idea adding dev docs to the documentation page |
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sekjal |
gmcharlt: I've heard some folks say the musical commentary track for Dr. Horrible is better than the music itself |
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jwagner |
Speaking of the wiki, see http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]c32_multiple_opac -- I see it says you can limit by item type or collection code. Does anyone know if you can limit by multiple collection codes? |
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hdl_laptop |
wizzyrea gmcharlt: I thought there was a discussion on koha-devel recently about enhancement workflow. |
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owen |
Whoa that enhancement submission diagram is a monster! |
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wizzyrea |
Those are just ones being brought over from the old wiki |
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chris |
gmcharlt: i did some work on download.koha-community.org last night, wizzyrea might have to fix it |
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wizzyrea |
we may need to update it |
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gmcharlt |
cool |
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chris |
http://download.koha-community.org/ |
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wizzyrea |
oh hey, you got ahead of me lol |
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hdl_laptop |
Which talked about RFCs putting on wiki first and then post bugs. |
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chris |
you'll have to tell me how to get the logo to show without it looking bustinated |
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wizzyrea |
hehe ok |
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chris |
ohh and now we can add a link to perldoc too :) |
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joetho |
HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHRIS CORMACK |
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chris |
heh, thanks joetho |
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cait |
oooh |
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* jwagner |
breaks into song -- Happy Birthday! |
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cait |
happy birthday chris |
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chris_n |
wow, two chris's both with birthdays in May |
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* cait |
hugs chris |
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chris_n |
happy birthday chris |
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what year chris? |
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chris |
73 |
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chris_n |
69 for me |
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chris |
te po atarau is one on the 31st |
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chris_n |
ahh... neat |
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joetho |
wow one chris is 69 and the other one is 73 |
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I feel SUPER young now! |
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brendan |
Happy Birthday chris |
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cm |
happy b-day! |
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chris |
heh |
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right bus time |
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cyas in a bit |
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cait |
joetho, what year? |
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hdl_laptop |
happy virtday chris cormack |
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birthday |
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AndChat| |
Bought myself a bigger data cap |
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chrisc2 |
Let's see how much irc on bus uses |
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chrisdroid |
So far it uses very little cos everyone is quiet :) |
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CGI266 |
Hello? |
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CGI266 |
Hello? |
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Any one there? |
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hdl_laptop |
yes |
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CGI266 |
Have a question about the new release of Koha |
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hdl_laptop |
chrisdroid: HAPPY BIRTHDAY in the buss |
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CGI266 |
REad somewhere that is was going to have a recon feature for scanning an entire catalog. did it make it in? |
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chrisdroid |
Thanks :) |
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3.0.6 was going to have that? |
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Or are you asking about the upcoming 3.2.0? |
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CGI266 |
I just loaded 3.0.6 and am trying to find any information related to the function |
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might have been reading about 3.2.0 |
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chrisdroid |
3.0.6 is a stable bugfix release so won't have new features |
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Its not ringing bells for 3.2 either .... gmcharlt? |
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gmcharlt |
chrisdroid: no bells ringing in my mind either |
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joetho |
I just killed all my 005 tags |
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CGI266 |
I have several libraries on Follett Destiny now. Big feature needed is to clean up records to a standardized format. They would like to do the entire catalog at one time. |
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Destiny does have this feature so it will be hard to get the librarians off of it, but the cost of the system is stagering. |
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joetho |
that is an ugly job, cgi266 |
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chrisdroid |
Id use marcedit for that |
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joetho |
good call numbers? |
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chrisdroid |
Or you could script it |
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CGI266 |
The Follett recon does it by scanning outside z39.50 sources adn allows you to accept the changes into your system |
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It will do the entire catalog or segments en-bulk, not one at a time |
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chrisdroid |
Or for some fraction of ur license costs could hire a developer to write that |
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CGI266 |
possibility |
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chrisdroid |
its not hard I've done it on the cli, building a nice interface is the trick |
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And that helps all koha users:) |
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CGI266 |
does not have to be pretty for now, just functional adn reliable |
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chrisdroid |
Well it will need an interface nicer than the commandline :) |
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But for now marcedit will do it |
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Export a batch or records |
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Change them |
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Import them choosing to replace |
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CGI266 |
even if it is run occasionally by a sysadmin on request, it would only need to be run about once a year if that. usually it would get run after a transition from another ILS |
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chrisdroid |
But id do the cleanup as part of the migration |
| 20:28 |
joetho |
I am importing 13,000 records and my 005 tags are now jacked up, no idea what happened. ...Anyone know what happens if I change all my 005 tags to the same number? |
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(the 13,000 records have bad 005 tags now) |
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CGI266 |
does marcedit have a seach/correct record function? Have to look at that one again. |
| 20:29 |
joetho |
I don't see anything wrong with making them all some date last week or something |
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chrisdroid |
Ie no point loading bad records, ok bus ride over back in a bit |
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gmcharlt |
joetho: it affect the bib record date/time last modified search, but that wouldn't be a big deal |
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joetho |
oh I can change them in marcedit easy enough, but I REALLY donm't want to have to try and restore them to their original 005 tag. |
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joetho |
right- I could pick some date last week or something. |
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actually, I should do that anyway, because I modified the bedonkey out of all of em. |
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CGI266 |
It is the date the record was first put in elect format, does not really affect the needed portions - http://www.loc.gov/marc/holdings/hd005.html |
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joetho |
hmmmm, wonder if that's how they got all crazy. |
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I thought it was the date modiffied- the originals have all sorts of dates, including verrrrry recent |
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Marc records make me crazy. |
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CGI266 |
I found a title of ....Last transaction but a definition of ....first put in ..... |
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schuster |
@later tell jdavidb - yes use line was missing. |
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munin |
schuster: The operation succeeded. |
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CGI266 |
MARC is strange! |
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gmcharlt |
CGI266: date the record was last updated, to be precise, not just when it was first created |
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richard |
hi |
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gmcharlt |
CGI266: you may be thinking of the 008/00-06 |
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CGI266 |
I was looking on the link above. MARC is still strange! |
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libtek |
I'm searching bugs, but not finding this one: Placed a hold on an on shelf item. Holds to Pull report shows the item, but there is a listing below (doesn't matter how many items) called undefined. Doesn't appear if there are no holds waiting. |
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Anyone see this? |
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cait |
good night all |
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libtek |
I'll report the but if anyone can confirm this on their end. |
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um, that is BUG, not but. :/ |
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CGI817 |
hi folks, need some help for importing data |
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CGI817 |
with multiple copies each) -- none of them have an isbn --- these records have been converted to marc from an excel db--- how can i ensure that each record gets added only once |
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libtek |
Anyone know of a way to turn off circulation history? |
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gpal |
hi, I need some guidelines for using "Record matching rules" |
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I have some data without ISBN numbers, there are quite a few multiple records but they all end up separately after the import... |
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I have tried to add field << 026$e Fingerprint >> as Record matching rules --- but I am unable to get it working !!! |
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wizzyrea |
libtek: you may want to consult the manual: http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.0 |
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(this would be the only time I would link you to koha.org.) |
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brendan |
Has Bug transfer commenced |
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* brendan |
excited for new bugs database |
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brendan |
bugs.koha-community.org++ |
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larsw |
brendan, I think chris is working on it now |
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chris |
in 3 mins it will |
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brendan |
w00t two minutes |
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munin we are excited how about you? |
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munin |
brendan: Error: "we" is not a valid command. |
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brendan |
party pooper |
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chris |
files all being sucked down now |
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brendan |
nice |
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hdl_laptop |
chris woot |
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libtek |
Anyone know if there is a way to customize the holds slips? (i.e. what to print and how to print it?) |
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chris |
http://koha.org/documentation/[…]3.0/tools/notices |
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libtek |
chris: Thanks. Those are notices. What I would like to modify (if possible) is the hold slip that prints when the hold is triggered. Not the notification to the patron for pickup. |
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wizzyrea |
you have to modify those in the template |
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libtek |
Would you be able to point me to where the templates reside? |
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Please. :) |
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wizzyrea |
/ koha-tmpl / intranet-tmpl / prog / en / modules / circ / hold-transfer-slip.tmpl |
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libtek |
Thank you! |
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wizzyrea |
in the / koha-tmpl / intranet-tmpl / prog / en / modules / you'll find all of the templates |
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you may have to poke around to find the one you want |
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genji |
hiya all |
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im having trouble installing koha3 .0.6 |
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chris |
3605 |
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libtek |
That's great. Thanks! This is awesome! |
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goodnight everyone! |
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genji |
HTTP::OAI tests bad, so it won't install |
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03badbytes.t, the second test of 3. |
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chris |
get the .deb from squeeze and try that instead |
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genji |
deb of? |
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chris |
http::oai |
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genji |
hmm..okay. how do i get it? |
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chris |
or you can just install it from the commandline |
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genji: from packages.debian.org |
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you might be better off just grabbing the tarball from cpan |
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and installing it from the commandline |
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genji |
tried manually installing it from the tarball cpan downloaded... still errors. |
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chris |
yes |
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just make install |
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genji |
force it? |
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the badbytes test is unimportant? |
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chris |
probably not |
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but if you arent planing to use http::oai and its stopping you doing something else |
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id ignore it |
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genji |
i believe its designed to filter out bad bytes before it gets to the xml parser.. and kills that records processing. |
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what part of koha uses http::oai? |
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chris |
the oai-pmh part |
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im 99% certain that if you dont know what that is, you wont be using it ;) |
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genji |
okay.. what is oai-pmh? |
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chris |
right you arent using it |
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:) |
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google will tell you that |
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genji |
is it mentioned in the installer? |
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* chris |
goes back to work |
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chris |
bug 1013 imported |
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munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1013 normal, P2, ---, chrisbigballofwax.co.nz, RESOLVED FIXED, marclist gets chopped |
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chris |
1/4 of the way there |
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we are gonna have to fix munin now |
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robin |
you know, if you just started from a fresh database, it'd be like you had no bugs and could go straight to release. |
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larsw |
robin, don't tempt him... |
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chris |
heh |
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oh interesting |
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ive found that sometime in 2007 |
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someone used the upload attachments to try and spam |
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created bogus bugs and all |
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koha has problems that can be fixed by zoloft apparently |
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larsw |
if only everything was so easily solved |
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chris |
cpan Koha::Zoloft |
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fixed |
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dangit |
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exploded at bug 2075 |
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munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2075 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, complete opac/opac-showreviews.pl |
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chris |
well 2076 to be exact |
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running again |
