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jwagner |
OK, I'm really going to sign off this time & get some rest :-) See you all tomorrow. |
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jransom |
good night jane |
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* chris_n |
chose to install one perl module and it looks like he got all of cpan in the deal :-P |
| 00:11 |
chris |
heh |
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moose? |
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chris_n |
how'd you guess :) |
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chris |
hi brendan |
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brendan |
hey chris |
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chris_n |
'evening brendan |
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brendan |
hey chris_n |
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chris_n |
*sigh* |
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'cpan *' would have been just as fast |
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brendan |
@roulette |
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munin |
brendan: *click* |
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brendan |
thanks |
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chris_n |
heya genji |
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genji |
hiya all |
| 00:56 |
chris_n |
genji: I left you a message with munin, but I used Genji, so I'm not sure you got it |
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genji is now known as Genji |
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Genji |
okay. now how do i ask for messageS? |
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chris_n |
@later help |
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munin |
chris_n: Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "help" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin. |
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chris_n |
@help later |
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munin |
chris_n: Error: There is no command "later". |
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chris |
@help tell |
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munin |
chris: (tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells the <nick> whatever <text> is. Use nested commands to your benefit here. |
| 00:58 |
Genji |
okay.. nevermind.. whats the message? |
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gmcharlt |
whew! http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]HarleyIntegration done |
| 00:58 |
chris |
awesome !!! |
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ok if i link to that from my blog post? |
| 00:58 |
chris_n |
Genji: munin should have pm'd you with it |
| 00:58 |
Genji |
didn't. |
| 00:58 |
chris_n |
hmm... it was too long to remember :( |
| 00:59 |
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had to do with your git problem |
| 00:59 |
Genji |
what was it regarding? |
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ah. |
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bummer. |
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did you msg munin? or tell on channel? |
| 01:03 |
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ya, i got that * |
| 01:05 |
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chris_n? |
| 01:06 |
chris_n |
sorry, there is a way to get munin to confess, but I've forgotton how |
| 01:07 |
gmcharlt |
@notes |
| 01:07 |
munin |
gmcharlt: I currently have notes waiting for christ, Genji:, gmcharlt:, hdl:, hdl_laptop:, km_kale, kmkale:, LadyNight32, matts, nengard:, nicole, owen:, paul, Schuster:, sekjal:, seneca:, slef:, thd-away, and wizzyrea:. |
| 01:07 |
gmcharlt |
@notes Genju |
| 01:07 |
munin |
gmcharlt: Error: I have no notes for that nick. |
| 01:07 |
gmcharlt |
@notes Genji |
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munin |
gmcharlt: Error: I have no notes for that nick. |
| 01:07 |
gmcharlt |
@notes Genji: |
| 01:07 |
munin |
gmcharlt: Sent 1 day, 23 hours, and 19 minutes ago: <chris_n> Starting with a 3.0.x tracking branch, you might do something like: 'git checkout 67e20d82ffdfc' then 'git checkout -b 3.0.094' which will get you a branch at the same point of your current version based on what I read in the irc logs |
| 01:07 |
gmcharlt |
@notes gmcharlt: |
| 01:07 |
munin |
gmcharlt: Sent 13 weeks, 3 days, 23 hours, and 33 minutes ago: <chris_n> it does not look as if this patch made it in yet: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]hment.cgi?id=1401 |
| 01:08 |
gmcharlt |
it's the colons that are messing things up |
| 01:08 |
slef |
??? |
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@notes slef: |
| 01:08 |
munin |
slef: Sent 18 weeks, 0 days, 3 hours, and 41 minutes ago: <chris_n> see my post to the list regarding the patron card creator |
| 01:08 |
* chris_n |
is very guilty of that mistake :-\ |
| 01:08 |
Genji |
whats the branch numbers? |
| 01:09 |
chris_n |
they are the hash of a commit |
| 01:09 |
Genji |
i mean -b 3.0.094 |
| 01:09 |
chris_n |
ahh -b creates a branch on the fly |
| 01:10 |
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3.0.094 is the name of the new branch |
| 01:10 |
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ie. the version number you are at iirc |
| 01:10 |
Genji |
so checking out after a checkout with a new branch number, creates it? |
| 01:10 |
chris_n |
but you can name it anything |
| 01:10 |
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not exactly |
| 01:11 |
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'git checkout -b foo' creates a branch 'foo' and checks it out |
| 01:11 |
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what I said above involves checking out two things: |
| 01:12 |
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1. a temporary "branch" at <commit> |
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2. a new working branch 'foo' off of that temporary branch |
| 01:13 |
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you're question as I recall was how to rebase only to a certian commit |
| 01:13 |
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this is effectively the same thing and probably easier |
| 01:15 |
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if, indeed, you started your work over that version, you may be able to copy your changed files over this branch and come up with a series of commits that represent your work |
| 01:15 |
* chris_n |
thinks that is still easier said then done |
| 01:20 |
Genji |
temporary branch at commit... means that commit and any before it, right? |
| 01:21 |
chris |
wow, that david sure likes to write a lot |
| 01:22 |
chris_n |
Genji: correct |
| 01:23 |
chris |
he also thinks im you chris_n :) |
| 01:23 |
* chris_n |
noticed that :) |
| 01:24 |
chris_n |
if we work this right, we should be able to go 7/24 forever |
| 01:26 |
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Genji: so I just looked back at the commit number for the patch that bumped the version to .094 and checked out at that commit |
| 01:27 |
chris |
http://newsbreaks.infotoday.co[…]Service-67119.asp |
| 01:27 |
slef |
huh? PTFS just released Koha 3.2??? |
| 01:29 |
gmcharlt |
slef: nope |
| 01:29 |
chris |
im choosing to look it at as ptfs now have lots of their code in a public repo, and im ignoring the marketing bs |
| 01:31 |
slef |
after the day I've had, I really didn't want to spend tomorrow taking calls from librarians asking when they can have the new stable tested Koha release and why we've been telling them the alpha has just been released :-/ |
| 01:32 |
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I am really sick of LMS vendors who issue a press release each time a developer publishes or a client forgets to tick the box for no publicity on an order. |
| 01:32 |
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Actually, not just LMS vendors. |
| 01:32 |
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Bah, maybe it's time to sleep. |
| 01:34 |
gmcharlt |
tomorrow is another day |
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| 01:42 |
gmcharlt |
heh |
| 01:43 |
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Harley Davidson is now following my twitter feed |
| 01:44 |
chris |
heh |
| 01:44 |
brendan |
Hard-ley Davidson that is |
| 01:45 |
gmcharlt |
:) |
| 01:45 |
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no, the real deal, seemingly |
| 01:45 |
brendan |
cool - do you own A harley ? |
| 01:45 |
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wow the puns can just keep rolling |
| 01:45 |
chris |
a few thousand lines of one |
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brendan |
this is kind of fun - I feel like yelling "come home Harley, come home" |
| 01:48 |
russ |
harley is to close to marley ;-) |
| 01:48 |
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s/to/too |
| 01:49 |
gmcharlt |
at least it's a consonant away from having us all talk to invisible rabbits |
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| 01:52 |
chris |
i wish slef had slept before responding to me |
| 01:55 |
mason |
a random daily git question.... |
| 01:56 |
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how to get *all* remote branches , from a remote git-repo? |
| 01:56 |
gmcharlt |
git fetch remote |
| 01:57 |
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i.e., the default action is to fetch all branches published by the remote repository |
| 01:57 |
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that is, assuming that you've used git-remote add |
| 01:57 |
mason |
yep, and yep... |
| 01:59 |
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so i do that , with a '-v' and get *loads* of remote branches listed - which looks like a success! |
| 01:59 |
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but when i do a local $ git branch |
| 01:59 |
chilts |
git branch -a |
| 02:00 |
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(-a for all) |
| 02:00 |
mason |
right.... |
| 02:00 |
chris |
you have them all |
| 02:00 |
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once you do a fetch |
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the rest is just checking them out |
| 02:01 |
mason |
hmm, why do i need an '-a' switch to see them? ( ive done this before too :/ ) |
| 02:02 |
chris |
because it only shows you your local branches by default .. you still have them all, you just have not made a local branch |
| 02:02 |
mason |
aah, thats the step im missing.. |
| 02:02 |
* chris |
pulls out RFTM |
| 02:02 |
chris |
-a |
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List both remote-tracking branches and local branches. |
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:) |
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i only did that to mason cos i know he can take it :-) |
| 02:04 |
mason |
can i create local branches of all these remotes branches , in 1 go? |
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or do i have to do it manually? |
| 02:05 |
chris |
don't think so .. but then why would you want to? you have all the code, just create them as you need them? |
| 02:06 |
chilts |
you can also always refer to them as remote/branchname if you want. e.g. git log remote/branchname |
| 02:06 |
mason |
ok, so my Q is " how do i clone a remote git-repo - and have all the remote-repo's branches defined as *local* branches, in my repo" |
| 02:06 |
chilts |
so they're just hashes (much like any other commit) which you can use anywhere you need a hash :) |
| 02:07 |
mason |
... or is that just a crazy-wacky thing for anyone to do? |
| 02:08 |
chris |
yeah |
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the latter |
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cos there is no real point to doing that |
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and you might conflict with other local branches with the same name |
| 02:09 |
mason |
for now im happy to manually create local branches, of all the remote-branches i want to work on... |
| 02:09 |
chris |
yep, thats they way it was designed to work :) |
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afaict |
| 02:09 |
mason |
... which is what ive done historically... i just wanted to know if there was a better-way that i was missing |
| 02:09 |
chilts |
yeah, do them as you need them, typing 'git branch mybranch remote/theirbranch' isn't really too much effort |
| 02:10 |
mason |
cool, im happy :) |
| 02:12 |
chilts |
mason: another good one is being able to checkout remote branches : git checkout remote/branchname |
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I find that useful sometimes, esp. if I'm just viewing |
| 02:13 |
robin |
chris: remember meeting in 45m |
| 02:13 |
mason |
right, but its in read-only mode then? |
| 02:13 |
chris |
ah yeah |
| 02:13 |
robin |
w/channel |
| 02:13 |
chilts |
mason: correct :) |
| 02:13 |
chris |
we probably should start walking in 15 mins or so |
| 02:13 |
robin |
yeah |
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I just want to see if the second-last part of the import works :) |
| 02:14 |
chris |
cool |
| 02:14 |
gmcharlt |
mason: just for you |
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git branch -r | xargs -n 1 -I '{}' git branch mylocal/{} {} |
| 02:15 |
chris |
heh |
| 02:15 |
mason |
thanks galen ^-^ |
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Amit_G |
heya brendan, chris |
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mason |
hey amit, long time no chat! |
| 04:34 |
Amit_G |
heya mason good morning |
| 04:45 |
chris |
what a day |
| 04:46 |
mason |
dang, i love the kohacon2010 logo |
| 04:46 |
chris |
sweet eh |
| 04:46 |
mason |
the motif-recursion is a nice visual hack |
| 04:47 |
chris |
gonna look choice on a tshirt |
| 04:47 |
mason |
layers upon layers... |
| 04:55 |
chilts |
which reminds me, I should update the 'Wiki' link at the top of KohaCon10 |
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to the new community one :) |
| 04:58 |
chris |
yes please |
| 04:58 |
chilts |
on my list of things to do tonight :) |
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chilts |
wow, just stumbled accross this, pretty apt : http://blog.remoteresponder.ne[…]ss-the-right-way/ |
| 05:04 |
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"... they [companies] are all reaching the same conclusions about the proper ways to successfully contribute." |
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it seems IBM and lots of other big and long time players have all figured out and understand how to contribute :) |
| 05:10 |
genji |
hiya all |
| 05:14 |
chris |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]HarleyIntegration |
| 05:14 |
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just rebased and sent a patch for bug3093 and a follow up so it can go into 3.2 |
| 05:14 |
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hometime i think |
| 05:15 |
brendan |
thanks chris |
| 05:16 |
chris |
theres a couple more 3.2 ones that dont have patch sent yet, be nice to knock them off |
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maybe ill do a couple more tonight |
| 05:16 |
* chris |
wanders off |
| 05:19 |
mason |
another random question... |
| 05:20 |
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are we running out of $952 subfield values soon? |
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[a-z] and [0-9], then what? |
| 05:23 |
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i swear i remember galen saying the marc-spec allowed for [a0..az] subfields? but MARC::Record doesnt like that |
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anyone have an idea? |
| 05:30 |
brendan |
get ride of MARC ? |
| 05:30 |
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s/ride/rid |
| 05:33 |
mason |
the available 952$subfields are starting to feel a little IP4 |
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kmkale |
good morning all |
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Amit_G |
heya kmkale, nicomo |
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cait |
good morning koha |
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read back in the logs, mason still around? |
| 06:17 |
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I think MARC allows upper-case letters as subfields, I used 'I' once in koha (which is the one letter where it will get confusing) |
| 06:19 |
kmkale |
hey amit |
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cait |
ok, time to leave for work, bbl :) |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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kf |
hi nicomo and paul_p |
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kmkale |
hi kf |
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kf |
hi kmkale |
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kf |
any news about the mailing lists? |
| 07:30 |
chris |
yep nahuel has fixed it |
| 07:30 |
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they should start coming through now |
| 07:30 |
kmkale |
who can tell me how the Cart buttons background color is changed on hover? |
| 07:31 |
chris |
owen would be the best bet kmkale |
| 07:31 |
kmkale |
thanks chris |
| 07:31 |
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its a neat trick with the gradient |
| 07:32 |
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@seen owen |
| 07:32 |
munin |
kmkale: owen was last seen in #koha 11 hours, 46 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <owen> All done, folks, see you later |
| 07:32 |
chris |
yeah he wont be around for a while yet |
| 07:33 |
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koha-devel might be a good place to ask (i dont think your timezones overlap much) |
| 07:33 |
nahuel |
:) |
| 07:33 |
chris |
nahuel++ #thanks for fixing the lists |
| 07:34 |
nahuel |
so, I hope it will crash again :p |
| 07:34 |
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if any time I up i'm ++ |
| 07:35 |
kmkale |
aahh got it |
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there is a hover section in the css |
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kf |
nahuel++ |
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* nahuel |
is going to crash again clamav ! |
| 07:42 |
chris |
heh |
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yep i see the mail coming through now :) |
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Cythrax |
hi there, i have just installed koha 3.05 and cannot get my z39.50 search from 'Add marc record' to work. can anyone tell me which part of the installation effects this functionality? |
| 07:46 |
chris |
could it be a firewall issue? |
| 07:46 |
Cythrax |
i don't think so as i have an old installation on a different box (that someone else did) that works |
| 07:47 |
chris |
you could test by trying to telnet to one of the servers on the koha server |
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eg telnet z3950.loc.gov 7090 |
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if you connect, then we can rule out network issues |
| 07:48 |
Cythrax |
it says Connected to ilsweb.loc.gov. Escape character is '^]'. |
| 07:51 |
chris |
right so its not network |
| 07:51 |
Cythrax |
i probably should mention that i am getting 2 different errors depending on which server i try to connect to, some are complaining about an undefined variable in z3950_search.pl and others are simply returning Connection failed |
| 07:51 |
chris |
is there anything in the apache error logs when you try your search? |
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undefined variable will be just a warn, so can probably ignore that, the Connection failed one is the real error |
| 07:52 |
kmkale |
firebug++ |
| 07:53 |
Cythrax |
as a selfconfessed noob, where would i find the apache error logs? |
| 07:58 |
hdl_laptop |
@notes hdl |
| 07:58 |
munin |
hdl_laptop: Error: I have no notes for that nick. |
| 07:58 |
chris |
/var/log/apache2/error.log is one to check |
| 07:58 |
hdl_laptop |
@notes hdl: |
| 07:58 |
munin |
hdl_laptop: Sent 30 weeks, 5 days, 6 hours, and 13 minutes ago: <ricardo> Correcting the problematic section of the PO Portuguese staff file that you pointed out solved the strange redirect problem . Thanks! :) Chris has already pushed the updated version to git |
| 07:58 |
hdl_laptop |
@notes hdl_laptop: |
| 07:58 |
munin |
hdl_laptop: Sent 21 weeks, 2 days, 11 hours, and 30 minutes ago: <chris_n2> disregard the previous note; there were several bugs in the en optional datasets as well as some duplicate INSERTS in sysprefs.sql; patches submitted to fix all |
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hdl |
@notes |
| 07:58 |
munin |
hdl: I currently have notes waiting for christ, Genji:, gmcharlt:, hdl:, hdl_laptop:, km_kale, kmkale:, LadyNight32, matts, nengard:, nicole, owen:, paul, Schuster:, sekjal:, seneca:, slef:, thd-away, and wizzyrea:. |
| 07:58 |
hdl |
@notes hdl: |
| 07:58 |
munin |
hdl: Sent 30 weeks, 5 days, 6 hours, and 14 minutes ago: <ricardo> Correcting the problematic section of the PO Portuguese staff file that you pointed out solved the strange redirect problem . Thanks! :) Chris has already pushed the updated version to git |
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| 07:59 |
kmkale |
@notes km_kale |
| 07:59 |
munin |
kmkale: Sent 1 week, 0 days, 13 hours, and 34 minutes ago: <chris_n> you should try resending your patch and/or checking your git send-email setup; see http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]l_some_parameters |
| 07:59 |
hdl_laptop |
hi all |
| 07:59 |
kmkale |
@notes kmkale |
| 07:59 |
munin |
kmkale: Error: I have no notes for that nick. |
| 07:59 |
kmkale |
@notes kmkale: |
| 07:59 |
munin |
kmkale: Sent 6 days, 20 hours, and 53 minutes ago: <chris_n> I succesfully upgraded to lucid last week |
| 07:59 |
chris |
Cythrax: the other place is /usr/share/koha/var/log |
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| 08:02 |
Cythrax |
thanks chris, the only error that shows up under error.log is that same one that appears on screen about an undefined variable in z3950_search.pl |
| 08:02 |
chris |
dang, im running out of ideas |
| 08:03 |
Cythrax |
oh well, thanks fo your help |
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*for |
| 08:11 |
chris |
nahuel: tons of mail in the queue to be sent? |
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right, just did 2 more patches for http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]HarleyIntegration |
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and that should be all the 3.2 ones |
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hdl_laptop |
why is notices_fix planned for 3.4 and not 3.2 ? |
| 08:20 |
chris |
which one? |
| 08:20 |
hdl_laptop |
last one |
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nahuel |
chilts, yes I think |
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chris |
ah because its much more than a bugfix |
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it adds new features, and a new systempreference |
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its too late for that in 3.2 now |
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chris |
its actually a poorly named branch |
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add_bccall_syspref would be a better name :-) |
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i love how easy git makes it to see the changes ;-) |
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and blam, there's all the mail in my inbox |
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chilts |
wiki link at top of KohaCon10 now points to the community wiki :) |
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chris |
thanks chilts |
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chilts |
np |
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chris |
http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]s_ptfs_lost_cards |
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that took a bit longer, rebasing, and cherry picking needed, will push to git.koha-community sooon |
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ohh a patch from matt |
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cool |
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chris |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]s_ptfs_lost_cards |
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chilts |
sweet |
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chris |
updated the wiki too |
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kf |
closed wrong window :( |
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chris |
whoops |
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chris |
it's quiet ... too quiet |
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chilts |
want us to make some noise? :) |
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chris |
is someone else travelling in time pretending to be me and writing scripts 10 years ago? |
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chilts |
heh |
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chris |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fc59fb924bfbd9f47 |
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kmkale |
opac-results.tmpl line 327 <tr><td colspan="5" class="resultscontrol" style="border : 1px solid #e8e8e8;"> is the style information necessary to be embedded here? its preventing change with css.. |
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chris |
i don't think we should have any inline styles |
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but id defer to owen on that |
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kmkale |
bug? |
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chris |
yeah |
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kmkale |
cool. will ask owen when he is around.. |
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chris |
colin++ #for the quick turnaround |
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chris |
hi jwagner and nengard |
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jwagner |
morning chris. Or evening, rather. Go to sleep :-) |
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jdavidb |
@karma jwagner |
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munin |
jdavidb: Karma for "jwagner" has been increased 33 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 33. |
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jdavidb |
@karma jdavidb |
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munin |
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jdavidb |
Mornin', #koha |
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kf |
morning jwagner and jdavidb |
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jwagner |
Morning, kf |
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jdavidb |
Hi, kf! :) |
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kmkale |
hi jdavidb |
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jwagner |
At the risk of letting jdavidb catch up to me in the karma stakes, jdavidb++ for a massive job of code wrangling :-) |
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* jdavidb |
is glad to *not* have a bunch of that on the list to do today, for the first time in about two months. |
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jwagner |
I'm sure I can think of OTHER things to add to your to-do list :-) |
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jdavidb |
I am sure. |
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I still have plenty on my list; it's just that the 900-pound gorilla that's been there forever has left the room. For now. |
| 11:50 |
kf |
the gorilla's name is harley? :) |
| 11:51 |
gmcharlt |
good morning |
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chris |
did you see http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]arley_Integration |
| 11:51 |
jdavidb |
sure 'nuf, kf...it is. |
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* jdavidb |
looks at the web page, and goes "squeeee!" |
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jwagner |
gmcharlt, looks like you've already been pushing some of these to head? Awesome! |
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* kf |
tries to imagine a squeeing jdavidb |
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jwagner |
He's been taking lessons from wizzyrea |
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kf |
pays off |
| 11:53 |
jwagner |
gmcharlt and chris, I have meetings all morning but then will be updating the bugzilla entries (and the integration page with descriptions & notes) probably starting this afternoon. |
| 11:53 |
chris |
cool |
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jdavidb |
gmcharlt, did you get any sleep at all last night? This is....incredible. |
| 11:55 |
gmcharlt |
jwagner: regarding bugs, most of them are tag with 'ptfs-harley', but I no doubt missed a few |
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jwagner |
I'll cross-check against my list. |
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chris |
jdavidb: its the bonus of having worldwide development, someone is always awake to cherry pick and tidy |
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* jdavidb |
looks at the history of the page, and sees gmcharlt, chris and nengard all having worked on it in the 12 hours it has existed. |
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jdavidb |
gmcharlt++ |
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chris++ |
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nengard++ |
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nengard |
history page? I created that 20 min ago :) hehe |
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jwagner |
No, the http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]HarleyIntegration page |
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jdavidb |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on&action=history |
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nengard |
oh - 'history of the page' :) hehe |
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sorry it's early |
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i skipped over the words 'of the' :) hehe |
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chris |
jdavidb: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]s_ptfs_lost_cards thats the first go of setting up an isolated feature branch for 3.4 ... (some rebasing and cherry picking to isolate the previous cardnumber functionality) if you want I can talk you through how I did it ... but after some sleep, .. of course gmcharlt knows too .. im hoping to have a branch with the isolated features in them based off new_fea |
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that way each branch can be qa'd and merged independent of any others |
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and now i sleep |
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jdavidb |
sleep well, chris |
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jwagner |
chris and gmcharlt, one note -- several of our features depend on the granular permissions, so the granulars need to go in first. |
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gmcharlt |
jwagner: assuming that it's not too hairy, I might be talked into getting the circ granular permissions into 3.2 |
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* jwagner |
sends gmcharlt bribes :-) |
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gmcharlt |
jdavidb: please note comment on bug 4238 |
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munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4238 enhancement, P5, ---, kohaprogrammers ptfs.com, ASSIGNED, OPAC timeout feature for patron privacy |
| 12:09 |
jdavidb |
noted, gmcharlt. Kyle was the one who did that bit for us; we'll work out how to chase this down here. |
| 12:09 |
gmcharlt |
jwagner: jdavidb: for the circ granular permissions, I suggest that ptfs/Bug3500 be a priority for rebasing against head |
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jwagner |
Yep, that's the whole set. |
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jdavidb |
Once I get a few things knocked out here, gmcharlt, I'll take a look at rebasing that. It touches many, many files, but mostly by inserts, rather than edits. |
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hdl_laptop |
has any of you played with icu searches |
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jdavidb |
I've tinkered with using icu to get diacritics happy, hdl_laptop, but I'm not sure I'm happy with the outcome of that. |
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hdl_laptop |
jdavidb: I am having really really weird results |
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jdavidb |
wierd in what way? |
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hdl_laptop |
for instance searching "code sécurité sociale" or "code securite sociale" donot bring same results |
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2075 results for the first |
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6 for the second. |
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* jdavidb |
blinks |
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jdavidb |
I would expect it to be exactly the opposite. |
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hdl_laptop |
In fact, looking at the first query, it appears that it only searches for code |
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and leave sécurité sociale apart |
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But if you search sécurité sociale, without code, then you get the results you want. |
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jdavidb |
O.o |
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hdl_laptop |
Not sure it is an icu oddities though. |
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But it is really likely to be. |
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jdavidb |
icu seems to be a strange acronym for "randomize search results", at first look. |
| 12:20 |
kf |
hfjs.bsz-bw.de has icu indexing, its 3.01.61, if you wnat to test there |
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kf |
I tested with bibliothe/è/éque |
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hdl_laptop |
thanks kf |
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kf |
I got the same results, but did not test with more than one term |
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hdl_laptop |
it is not failing when searching for a single word. |
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* owen |
finds that slew of emails he was looking for |
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hdl_laptop |
It is the combination of words which makes it "fuzzy" |
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jdavidb |
My first run at icu, I got a *lot* fewer search results, which really boggled my mind. Searching for Gonzalez didn't pick up González, but I was getting a bunch of other hits. Turned ICU on and got *nothing*, until I turned Fuzzy off. Then I got what I wanted, but less than originally. Fuzzy adds all sorts of mud to the mix. |
| 12:22 |
kf |
Bibliothèque Archéologique seems to work |
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hdl_laptop |
seems it is not icu dependent |
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s/dependent/related/ |
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or maybe only with some special words |
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like code. |
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kmkale |
hdl_laptop if you remember I had similar questions to you regarding icu and Devanagari script |
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I get all the results with fuzzy turned off but the sorting is all wrong |
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hdl_laptop |
sorting is really different from searching |
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kmkale: in fact, zebra first gets the results and then sort them. |
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And you can sort without using icu |
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owen |
@notes owen: |
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munin |
owen: Sent 6 weeks, 4 days, and 0 hours ago: <chris_n> I got the ajax version of DataTable working in my app; I'm going to do some testing and then plan to workup a test branch to test it in Koha |
| 12:35 |
kmkale |
oh so icu is not used in definig the sorting order but zebra does it on it own is it? |
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hdl_laptop |
kmkale: problem for sorting indexes is that icu transforms the strings into internal hashes So that if you order on icu processed chains, you will have really bad order |
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This is why in the default.idx I posted, you have |
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sort s |
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completeness 1 |
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charmap sort-string-utf.chr |
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and not |
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icuchain icu.xml |
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owen |
kmkale: I wrote a blog post about customizing the Cart and Lists buttons: http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=217 |
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kmkale |
thats the one I am using and still my sorting for Devanagari is wrong. so where do I need to change to get it correct? |
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owen: i got that. neat.. |
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* owen |
saw your query in the log |
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jwagner |
owen, I may come back & pick your brains on the customizing buttons bit -- I have a site where I was trying to change the color of the buttons. No problem changing the list one, but the cart button was really obstinate. I verified the stylesheet setting that I was using the right one, etc., but it wouldn't budge. |
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hdl_laptop |
maybe your sort-string-utf.chr need tweaking in order to fit your needs. |
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kmkale |
owen: i have a couple of style related queries if you have a min |
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owen |
jwagner: I always have to go through my own checklist when I do that, it's not always obvious what needs to be changed. |
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kmkale: Sure |
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kmkale |
hdl_laptop: i will try that |
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hdl_laptop |
kmkale: perhaps also that since zebra is making strange things with hindu script, translitterating them into @@@@ you could have better results using icuchain also for sorting |
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kmkale |
hdl_laptop: meaning? transliterate on the fly? |
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hdl_laptop |
http://userguide.icu-project.org/services |
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ICU provides the following collation classes for sorting and searching natural language text according to locale-specific rules:Collator |
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Collator is the abstract base class of all classes that compare strings.CollationElementIterator |
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CollationElementIterator is a concrete iterator class that provides an iterator for stepping through each character of a locale-specific string according to the rules of a specific collator object. RuleBasedCollator |
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RuleBasedCollator is the only built-in implementation of the collator. It provides a sophisticated mechanism for comparing strings in a language-specific manner, and an interface that allows the user to specifically customize the sorting order.CollationKey |
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CollationKey is an object that enables the fast sorting of strings by representing a string as a sort key under the rules of a specific collator object. |
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Maybe we could make use of those things in icu |
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kmkale |
hdl_laptop: over my head presently but will read up |
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kmkale |
oops |
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jwagner |
owen, I'm about to go into meetings for the morning -- maybe I can get with you this afternoon or tomorrow to figure out what I'm doing wrong. Thanks. |
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kmkale |
hdl_laptop: is there an example of sort-string-utf.chr available? |
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hdl_laptop |
kmkale: there is the one in git.koha.org |
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kmkale |
I dont seem to have that file and may be thats why my sorting is all wrong |
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thanks hdl_laptop |
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hdl_laptop |
etc/zebradb/lang_defs/fr/sort-string-utf.chr |
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kmkale |
hdl_laptop: got it. its there for en. So basic question which one is used? do I need one separately for Devanagari? and where do I define how to reach it? |
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hdl_laptop |
yes there is. |
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I guess it is the en that is used by default |
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in default.idx |
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kmkale |
in default.idx it says charmap sort-string-utf.chr where is it defined whether en or fr etc? |
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gmcharlt |
kmkale: can you advise if bug 4343 can be closed? |
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munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4343 major, P4, ---, oleonardmyacpl.org, NEW, OPAC My Account - Users unable to See Loans/Reserves |
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gmcharlt |
rather, bug 4323 |
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munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4323 blocker, P5, ---, henridamienkoha-fr.org, ASSIGNED, Web Installer fails with table already exists and loops on step 3 |
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nelsonlib |
Hey guys - sorry to interrupt - ut I am having a problem with my label printing batches |
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kmkale |
gmcharlt: yes |
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gmcharlt |
kmkale: cool, please do so |
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kf |
gmcharlt: will bug 3203 be integrated in 3.2? there is no version number on the wiki |
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munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3203 normal, P5, ---, henridamienkoha-fr.org, NEW, Some Letters template variables are not available to certain notice types |
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owen |
nelsonlib: Jump in with your actual question. If anyone can, they'll answer |
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kmkale |
done |
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gmcharlt |
kf: possibly; I haven't looked at that on in detail yet |
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nelsonlib |
Thanks, owen |
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So - my problem is that when I do a wildcard '%' search on the 'Title' on records when I want to add items to a label batch - I get a lot of blank records |
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kmkale |
owen: opac-results.tmpl line 327 <tr><td colspan="5" class="resultscontrol" style="border : 1px solid #e8e8e8;"> is the style information necessary to be embedded here? its preventing change with css.. |
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nelsonlib |
In my test library, I have 94 records, and it is finding all 94, but only 22 are displaying their information, there are still blank boxes for the remaining records |
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kf |
gmcharlt: its on my list of 'annoying things' because difficult to predict which fields work in a template, would be nice to have a better solution here |
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nelsonlib |
And no matter how far in the pagination I go, I cannot get the remaining records to show up |
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* owen |
thinks Oh good for once git-blame doesn't blame me |
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kmkale |
owen: also opac-advsearch.tmpl line 118 div id pubrange is having class=container while all others on the page are having class=yui-g . Is it ok to change from container to yui-g? its causing problems while changing background |
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owen |
kmkale: No, I don't see any reason for that style to be embedded. It should be moved to the default css |
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kmkale: To keep the advsearch template consistent, we should wrap the #pubrange div in a div.yui-g |
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kmkale |
owen: ok. should I file bugs? |
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owen |
Those are such small issues I probably wouldn't file a bug report. Will you submit a patch? Or would you like me to? |
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kmkale |
i am still fighting with git. if you could ? |
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owen |
Sure |
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kmkale |
thanks |
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owen: any ideas about getting rounded corners for yui-b and yui-g? it would look really cool imho |
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owen |
kmkale: The "container" divs were added originally in order to be a hook for rounded corners. Have you tried using that ? |
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kmkale |
aahh.. |
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owen |
kmkale: Liblime's OPAC demo shows an implementation which uses JavaScript to achieve the corners |
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http://public.demo.kohalibrary.com/ |
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kmkale |
thanks owen. |
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nice |
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* owen |
has started using CSS3's border-radius property for other projects lately |
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thinks it's time to give up on IE and start using border-radius widely |
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kmkale |
:) |
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owen |
Some trivia: Here's the library that OPAC design was produced for: http://www.hclibrary.org/ |
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...but they never ended up migrating to Koha apparently. |
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kmkale |
looks like same css |
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owen |
Can anyone help me out with Bug 4418? |
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munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4418 normal, P5, ---, oleonardmyacpl.org, NEW, required patron attributes not red |
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owen |
nengard says "When you create a patron attribute you can say whether it's required or not. " |
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...but I don't see where |
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I don't see anything here: /cgi-bin/koha/admin/patron-attr-types.pl?op=add_attribute_type |
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Okay, I'll try another one: Anyone know where the patch is for bug 4238? |
| 13:33 |
munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4238 enhancement, P5, ---, kohaprogrammersptfs.com, ASSIGNED, OPAC timeout feature for patron privacy |
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hdl_laptop |
owen: there is BorrowerMandatoryFields system preference iirc (bug 4418) |
| 13:34 |
munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4418 normal, P5, ---, oleonardmyacpl.org, NEW, required patron attributes not red |
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owen |
hdl_laptop: Oh, does that work with patron attributes as well? |
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It doesn't seem to |
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hdl_laptop |
I think that a good jquery to set class on the Mandatory fields could be helpful |
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jdavidb |
owen, re bug 4238, take a look at the top three commits at http://github.com/ptfs/Koha-PTFS/commits/Bug4238 |
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brendan |
morning |
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jdavidb |
Hi, brendan! |
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owen |
Thanks jdavidb |
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owen |
fuzzy_use_of_terminology-- |
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gmcharlt |
namely? |
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owen |
The "New Stable Release of Koha" bugs me. http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]ytext.pl?RC=14735 |
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Baby steps I guess. |
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moodaepo |
owen: I would have expected Breeding to be better at use_of_terminology I think he was here for one of the Koha meetings |
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gmcharlt |
moodaepo: that part of librarytechnology.org merely republishes press releases |
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moodaepo |
gmcharlt: ah I did not know that. |
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kmkale |
owen: http://www.screencast.com/t/MTBhNTM4 does it look right? |
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owen |
Very nice! |
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kmkale |
css3 |
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to hell with IE |
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wizzyrea |
kmkale that's beautiful! |
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kmkale |
although I am going to try something like this http://www.schillmania.com/projects/dialog2/ to see if it accomodates IE |
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thanks wizzyrea |
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and thanks to owen |
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kf |
kmkale: really nice! |
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kmkale |
thanks kf |
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kmkale |
wizzyrea: did you get a chance to relook at that patch? |
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i would really like for someone to apply it to head and see if it works |
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ccurry |
Good morning, everyone. I have a quick question (I hope) about Acquisitions. |
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ccurry |
Is it possible to easily configure the acquisitions module (or just the cataloging module in general) to use a particular framework when creating a record of a particular item type? |
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kmkale |
bye all.. good night |
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ccurry |
We're using dummy subscription records to track our serials acquisitions budget, but we want to suppress the bibs we're using to do so. |
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ccurry |
I've figured out how to suppress the records with OpacSuppression and 942$n, but I can't figure out how to do it automatically. Our catalogers would be required to edit the record after the order is received. Not a big deal, but I'd like to automate this if I can. |
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We're using an exclusive item type for this purpose, so I had hoped we'd be able to link the item type to a MARC framework, and use the default value for 942$n to automatically suppress these records. Any ideas? |
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And I suppose I should say good night as well, to this international crowd. |
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Or good evening, since that's a more appropriate greeting. |
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owen |
ccurry: I'm curious why your starting point is the item type |
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Don't you have to start by creating a record? |
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ccurry |
In the acquisitions module of 3.0.5, when receiving a record, I can't pick a framework to use; default is used. I can, however, choose item type. Since these are dummy records, that's the end of the cataloger's work with the record. It's used exclusively to track our serials budget. |
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ccurry |
Does that make sense? |
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ccurry |
back |
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gmcharlt |
ccurry: IIRC, 3.2 does let you set the framework for stuff received in ACQ |
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ccurry |
That's good to know. There are lots of reasons to update to 3.2. I can't wait till it's stable. I guess we'll just do it manually until then, unless you can recommend an easy work around. |
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kf |
ok, perhaps someone has an idea: we imported items with umlauts in callnumber and $i (inventory number) |
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in items those umlauts are ok, but in marcxml they are broken |
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and display is broken in some places of koha as a result |
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after edit/save without changes of the item the umlauts are correct |
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im confused whats happening here and we need to repair this in 2 databases |
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kf |
and its only umlauts in 952, umlauts in other fields in marcxml are ok too |
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Colin |
kf:what's the actual value in the bad fields? |
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schuster |
@notes Schuster |
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@notes |
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munin |
schuster: Error: I have no notes for that nick. |
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kf |
not sure how I can see that, what I see is JÃx83;Âx83;Ãx82;Âx83;Ãx83;Âx82;Ãx82;¤ oh, its better here |
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munin |
schuster: I currently have notes waiting for christ, Genji:, gmcharlt:, hdl:, hdl_laptop:, km_kale, kmkale:, LadyNight32, matts, nengard:, nicole, owen:, paul, Schuster:, sekjal:, seneca:, slef:, thd-away, and wizzyrea:. |
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gmcharlt |
@notes Schuster: |
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munin |
gmcharlt: Sent 13 weeks, 1 day, 4 hours, and 22 minutes ago: <chris_n`> yeah, it needs to make it into the INSTALL.* files |
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nengard |
@notes nengard |
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munin |
nengard: Error: I have no notes for that nick. |
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kf |
should be NeyJä |
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nengard |
@notes nengard: |
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munin |
nengard: Sent 12 weeks, 2 days, 15 hours, and 21 minutes ago: <chris_n> I submitted a patch for the docbook documentation correcting some invalid markup |
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gmcharlt |
@notes negard: |
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munin |
gmcharlt: Error: I have no notes for that nick. |
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gmcharlt |
@notes nengard: |
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munin |
gmcharlt: Sent 12 weeks, 2 days, 15 hours, and 21 minutes ago: <chris_n> I submitted a patch for the docbook documentation correcting some invalid markup |
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nengard |
@notes nicole |
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munin |
nengard: Sent 3 days, 4 hours, and 35 minutes ago: <chris_n> I sent along a security tip you might like to publish in the next newsletter |
| 15:51 |
nengard |
chris_n already thanked you for that via email :) |
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kf |
Colin: any idea? |
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chris_n |
nengard: received; that's an oldie note |
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nengard |
yup :) |
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so - i've really screwed something up on my install ... i was trying to revert an old patch of mine that wasn't accepted because someone else got to it first :) and i'm having all kinds of merge issues - can I just pull down 1 file from the current repo and have it overwrite my screwy one? |
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* chris_n |
is apparently guilty of most of the old notes due to the mistaken use of ':' :-) |
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nengard |
hehe |
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kf |
I can try some import tests tomorrow, but its really strange |
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owen |
I wonder if you can ask munin to forget a note? |
| 15:55 |
kf |
ok, will start to rain any minute, have to hurry up to get home - if somebody has an idea - I will read back later! |
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Colin |
kf: not at the moment stay drt |
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that's dry |
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gmcharlt |
owen: you can work around it by temporarily changing your nick |
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e.g., |
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hmm, |
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no actually, you can't |
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':' isn't valid in a nick |
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owen |
:) I tried that too |
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gmcharlt |
well, I'll purge the dead notes RSN |
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* owen |
wonders what message christ has waiting for him upon His return |
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thinks probably a lot of programmers cursing about stuff |
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nengard |
LOL |
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owen replied to your email |
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gmcharlt |
well, since I'm curious |
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@notes christ |
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munin |
gmcharlt: Sent 36 weeks, 4 days, 23 hours, and 5 minutes ago: <wizzyrea> pst, can I pick your brain about the LIMIT statement you suggested? I'm having some trouble. I''d be ever so grateful. |
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owen |
christ has the best sql-fu around. |
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"SELECT * FROM `humans` WHERE..." ... and then you get all the messy morality stuff. |
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brendan |
SELECT wine FROM water |
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owen |
SELECT `stone_thrower` FROM `crowd` WHERE `sin` IS NULL |
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Colin |
== 0 surely NULL is morally vague |
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owen |
Sounds like a job for a treatise |
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Colin |
plus God would have to face the wrath of CJ Date |
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wizzyrea |
blasted topys |
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irony. I has it. |
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typos* |
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oh, is he a waldo person? |
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jdavidb |
oooooo |
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wizzyrea |
... |
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god is a waldo person, I'm funny. |
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jdavidb |
Hell hath no fury like a waldo person... |
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brendan |
ah waldo they've been quiet (well except ben) |
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jdavidb |
For the modern age, I think that whole thing about "Hell hath no fury" needs revision: "Hell hath no fury lke an ex-wife with more money than good sense..." |
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owen |
nengard: I haven't gotten an email from you |
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nengard |
hmmm |
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says it was sent in reply 49 min ago |
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but here is it: |
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Okay so apparently you put patron_attr_2 (or whatever number the |
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attribute is) in the BorrowerMandatoryField pref to make it required. |
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Not sure how you keep track of which attribute is which number - but |
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that's how you make it required. |
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owen |
Wild. How did you figure that out?! |
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brendan |
:) |
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nengard |
yeah - it was brendan - not me :) |
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cait |
back |
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cait |
not dry, but at home now :) |
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@wunder Konstanz |
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munin |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is 12.1�C (6:29 PM CEST on May 11, 2010). Conditions: Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.61 in 1002.6 hPa (Rising). |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in ASOS_HFM SANTA BARBARA, CA, Santa Barbara, California is 13.9�C (9:05 AM PDT on May 11, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Rising). Wind Advisory in effect until 3 am PDT Wednesday... |
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brendan |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi brendan |
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thunderstorms and rain - munin++ |
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* jdavidb |
waves, and hands cait a towel |
| 16:30 |
cait |
thanks :) |
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still thinking about weird umlauts in callnumbers... hmpf. |
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* owen |
wonders if nengard's documentation for required patron attributes will include instructions for installing Firebug |
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cait |
:) |
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brendan |
owen++ |
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owen |
Heh... "The following fields are mandatory: patron_attr_1" |
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nengard |
:) |
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owen |
Not sure this feature is ready for prime time :P |
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nengard |
jwagner around? |
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jwagner |
here (when not off working on another screen) |
| 16:42 |
nengard |
hi jwagner |
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had questions but i put them in the bug 3093 report |
| 16:42 |
munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3093 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, sedwardsalloycomputing.com, RESOLVED FIXED, Enhance placing of holds in staff interface |
| 16:44 |
nengard |
now that i retest though - it looks like it does work in the opac & staff client |
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jwagner |
Hmmm. The feature should work in both staff and OPAC. I wasn't worried too much about the lists & cart, although it should probably be extended to them. |
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Primary concern was getting it off the search results page. |
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owen |
I don't see how the cart and lists are any different |
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Same issue, isn't it? |
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Multiple holds overriding hold limits? |
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jwagner |
Yes, it should be extended. This was a quick get-it-out-of-there! fix, though. |
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nengard |
if we're talking about extending it -then it should be 2 prefs - one for OPAC & one for Staff |
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jwagner |
It may or may not be necessary in the future with the more defined circ rules. |
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Haven't done enough testing yet in 3.2 to know if multiple holds are handled better there. |
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owen |
Nope :( |
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* jwagner |
just realized why my blood sugar feels so low -- going to get some lunch |
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nengard |
jwagner - i'm with you -- be back soon |
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brendan |
wb lunchers |
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jwagner |
Where's the dessert? |
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cait |
chocolate cookies? |
| 17:31 |
brendan |
bugs for dessert served in this channel |
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jwagner |
brendan, that doesn't sound very ... tasty! |
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brendan |
:) |
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* chris_n |
hears that deep fried termites are tasty |
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* cait |
hides her chocolate cookies from brendan and chris_n |
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chris_n |
hmm... chocolate covered ants maybe? |
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cait |
dont do that to chocolate |
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jwagner |
Suddenly I'm losing my appetite. Maybe I'd better go get a cookie. |
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* cait |
offers jwagner one of the hidden chocolate cookies |
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jwagner |
Mmmmmmmmmm |
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cait |
just dont combine with any insects |
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jwagner |
or share with people who bug me? |
| 17:43 |
cait |
hm, sometimes this might include me |
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nengard |
no more talk of eating bugs!! |
| 17:44 |
cait |
:) |
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nengard |
my dessert is sugar free jello |
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* jdavidb |
likes jello a lot. Has to be careful not to eat too much, or he wiggles n jiggles. |
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nengard |
LOL |
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the idea behind sugar free jello is to stop the wiggling and jiggling :) |
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at least for me it is :) |
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cait |
is it tasty? |
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* owen |
goes back to chewing on bug 4418 |
| 18:00 |
munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4418 normal, P5, ---, oleonardmyacpl.org, NEW, required patron attributes not red |
| 18:00 |
owen |
Mmmmm... perplexing. |
| 18:02 |
chris_n |
the chewy ones always seem to be that way ;-) |
| 18:03 |
owen |
nengard: Your email finally made it through (lunchtime traffic delays?) |
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nengard |
not sure |
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hey anyone know what template file prints out the 'no result found' message on the opac search? |
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it's not opac-results |
| 18:04 |
owen |
I was just looking at that yesterday: masthead.inc |
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* owen |
had to go looking for it himself |
| 18:05 |
nengard |
thank you! |
| 18:16 |
jwagner |
Speaking of that "no result found" -- I had a request from a library to modify that to take off the library name. (i.e., not "No Result Found in Library Name" just "No Result Found") |
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Is that something anyone else would be interested in? |
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Sorry, not to remove permanently, but to wrap a div around it so it could be jquery'd? |
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I couldn't see a way to do it as-is. |
| 18:17 |
owen |
jwagner: A change like that doesn't cause anyone any harm, so why not? |
| 18:17 |
cait |
I did something to the German message, no fun |
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the library said they dont want the query, because its confusing for people to see things like title,phr |
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owen |
Yeah, seeing "ti,wrdl" is just nonsensical |
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chris |
i agree |
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gmcharlt will fix it with the rewrite of C4::Search im sure, being able to hide it until then would be sweet |
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* chris |
hides from gmcharlt |
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* jwagner |
thinks chris is living dangerously :-) |
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cait |
removed the query and replaced it with 'your search terms' so that it makes a whole sentence in German :) |
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jquery++ |
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jwagner |
OK, if I have a chance I might do a patch. Or I might not.... |
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Got another meeting, back later. chris & gmcharlt, it doesn't look like I'm going to get to the bugzilla stuff today. Tomorrow, probably. |
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| 18:25 |
tjl |
Does anyone have troubleshooting steps for when a new install hangs at 'sudo make install' and reports nothing to the screen? All the tests passed. All prereqs installed. Koha user and group created. |
| 18:26 |
* gmcharlt |
goes after chris |
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gmcharlt |
;) |
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nengard |
why would i get this error: |
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ERROR 1062 (23000): Duplicate entry 'OPACNoResultsFound' for key 1 |
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jdavidb |
looks like you tried to install the same syspref twice. |
| 18:29 |
nengard |
but i didn't :) |
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it's not there i did a select |
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jdavidb |
o.O |
| 18:30 |
nengard |
that was the first thing i checked |
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i read on a forum that the index may need a repair |
| 18:30 |
chris |
tjl: hmm nope, havent seen that happen before |
| 18:30 |
nengard |
but i don't know how to do that |
| 18:30 |
chris |
tjl: does top tell you anything? |
| 18:30 |
nengard |
brendan says it went through A-OK on his install |
| 18:32 |
jdavidb |
The mysqlcheck command line utility can look for problems, might give that a swing. |
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| 18:32 |
tjl |
chis: top says a perl process is running that is taking up anywhere from 30 - 60% of CPU. |
| 18:34 |
chris |
well i guess its doing something then ... who knows what... weird |
| 18:34 |
tjl |
chris: after 'sudo make install' this is reported to the screen but nothing further. '/usr/bin/perl "-Iblib/arch" "-Iblib/lib" fix-perl-path.PL blib' |
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nengard |
anyone else know how i can reset my db? |
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repair and mysqlcheck don't work on it |
| 18:37 |
chris |
tjl: how long has it been running now? |
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nengard: select variable from systempreferences where variable like 'OPACNo%'; |
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just to be certain |
| 18:38 |
nengard |
chris - did taht |
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that |
| 18:38 |
tjl |
chris: this time around 5 minutes. i've let it run longer. |
| 18:38 |
nengard |
before i asked for help :) that I know how to do :) |
| 18:39 |
chris |
right, heres what i would do |
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mysqldump -uuser -p koha systempreferences > sysprefs.sql |
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mysql -uuser -p koha < sysprefs.sql |
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that should drop and recreate the table, and hopefully fix whatever is up with it |
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if that doesnt work |
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you can mysqldump the whole of koha |
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mysqladmin -uroot -p drop koha |
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mysqladmin -uroot -p create koha |
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and then reload it |
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tjl: what version? |
| 18:42 |
nengard |
chris - how am i reloading it? |
| 18:42 |
chris |
the sysprefs one? |
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or the whole db? |
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mysql -uuser -p koha < sysprefs.sql |
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or |
| 18:42 |
tjl |
chris: 3.0.5 on Ubuntu 9.04. |
| 18:43 |
nengard |
got it - and just the sys prefs is what i need |
| 18:43 |
chris |
mysql -uuser -p koha < whatever-you-called-it |
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tjl: i will try to recreate when i get to work, but its certainly nothing i have run into befor |
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anyone else? |
| 18:45 |
brendan |
hi chris |
| 18:45 |
nengard |
thanks chris |
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worked, but my feature didn't work :) so off to edit the code :) |
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cait |
good night #koha |
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hdl_laptop |
time to go to bed. |
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good night folks |
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wizzyrea |
gnite hdl_laptop |
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DRUlm |
Hi all, what is the news. |
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owen |
DRUlm: This: http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]de-hits-the-wild/ |
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DRUlm |
Wow! |
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wizzyrea |
:D I kno rite? |
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pretty sweet |
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some really good features |
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all open, too. I like that. |
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owen |
I'm sure schuster's happy that there is now a foreseeable upgrade path for his library |
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wizzyrea |
yea, def |
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it's a nice intermediate step between where we are (omg old and broken) and 3.2 |
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though there's a ton of improvements in 3.2 that this doesn't have |
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DRUlm |
Its all good. |
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owen |
3.0 <- old and busted | new hotness -> 3.2 |
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DRUlm |
Cool! |
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Yeah, 3.2 is looking good. |
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chris |
heya reed |
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richard |
hi |
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chris |
heya richard |
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richard |
hi chris |
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chris |
heya kansas ... and genji |
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schuster |
schuster - says I always had an upgrade path... Community... |
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chris |
you still do |
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:) |
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but now commnity will contain features that you sponsored |
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http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]braries-to-thank/ |
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and i prefer to call it mainstream or mainline .. or just koha |
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community is the marketing LL used to denigrate it |
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wizzyrea |
I think most marketing people should be fired. |
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* wizzyrea |
harrumphs |
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mason |
liz++ |
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schuster |
that was the intent all along... community was already going to have most of my code as Galen made sure most of it moved before he left...++ |
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See ya! Baseball practice with 9 year olds tonight! |
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wizzyrea |
oh hi mason :) |
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reed |
"community version" is almost always used to indicate the hobbled open source version of a commercial product -- mysource matrix and mysql come to mind |
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normally missing some key feature you need to make it work |
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chris |
yeah, lets call it mainstream |
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reed |
so, yeah, would love it if we can sort the language out better |
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chris |
or official |
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reed |
or koha |
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chris |
yeah :) |
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mason |
it's quite cute that the 'koha-community' phrase was originally created to indicate something inferior |
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