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| 00:01 | richard is now known as rich-away | |
| 00:08 | chris | hmm am i dreaming |
| 00:08 | or did we used to use Business::ISBN ? | |
| 00:09 | * brendan | seems to remember that being in there |
| 00:11 | chris | hmm no sign of it, maybe its only in the 3.0.x branch |
| 00:12 | robin | Yeah, I can't find any ISBN module. |
| 00:12 | chris | i'm sure we did something with Business::ISBN |
| 00:13 | robin | I've found code that checks ISBN for length and formatting, but nothing that does checksums. |
| 00:13 | * chris | greps mail |
| 00:13 | robin | Oh well, I'll use Test::ISBN for this script, it does exactly what I need. |
| 00:14 | chris | ah i see a patch from gmcharlt with it |
| 00:14 | robin | (and builds on Business::ISBN) |
| 00:14 | chris | maybe he never pushed his patch :-) |
| 00:14 | robin | oh, actually, I can do this in Business:: anyway, so that'll be better. |
| 00:14 | chris | yeah use that and ill follow up with gmcharlt about the dependency |
| 00:15 | its in debian already so thats good | |
| 00:15 | robin | oh, cool |
| 00:15 | Adding a smart ISBN/ISSN checker/seperator for this import thing to help handle noisy data. | |
| 00:16 | chris | *nod* |
| 00:22 | nengard | done with a ton of wiki edits - now it's time to relax - it is sunday after all |
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| 00:30 | gmcharlt | yep, let's go with Business::ISBN |
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| 01:09 | chris_n | howdy brendan |
| 01:09 | brendan | heya chris_n how the day go? |
| 01:09 | chris_n | great |
| 01:11 | yesterday we put up some new window baskets with flowers and today the kids and I took my wife out to eat | |
| 01:14 | brendan | nice that sounds excellent |
| 01:16 | chris_n | ahh... hope they get this fixed: http://www.space.com/missionla[…]+Headline+Feed%29 |
| 01:16 | * chris_n | wonders if some perl coding might help fix the problem |
| 01:17 | gmcharlt | a telegram asking the aliens to stop mucking with the probe might be better ;) |
| 01:18 | chris_n | lol :D |
| 01:18 | maybe they speak perl, no? | |
| 02:11 | brendan | night all |
| 02:14 | rich-away is now known as richard | |
| 02:17 | braedon|home | @wunder auckland |
| 02:17 | munin | braedon|home: The current temperature in Auckland, New Zealand is 20.0�C (2:00 PM NZST on May 10, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 02:18 | braedon|home | @wunder wellington |
| 02:18 | munin | braedon|home: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 02:18 | braedon|home | @wunder wellington, new zealand |
| 02:18 | munin | braedon|home: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0�C (2:00 PM NZST on May 10, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). |
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| 02:29 | schuster | anyone about for a question? |
| 02:30 | chris | yes |
| 02:30 | schuster | I'm looking at loading 3.2alpha2 and I'm looking at the documentation where is the current git? |
| 02:30 | git clone git://git.koha.org/pub/scm/koha.git kohaclone | |
| 02:30 | is what is in the document... | |
| 02:31 | chris | what document? |
| 02:31 | schuster | INSTALL.debian-lenny |
| 02:31 | chris | yeah that needs updating, but if you have the tarball, then you dont use git anyway |
| 02:32 | schuster | ok I do have the tarball, just have not had success installing from that in the past so guess I will march onward with the tar. |
| 02:33 | thk. | |
| 02:33 | chris | if you clone git, you arent installing the alpha2 |
| 02:33 | you are instally whatever master has moved on to | |
| 02:34 | schuster | true. Just trying to get closer to do some testing as I can. |
| 02:34 | chris | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 02:35 | if you want to do an install from git, that has the right urls in it | |
| 02:36 | schuster | OK thanks. appreciate the help. Hope you had a good weekend... |
| 02:39 | chris | yep, busy but good |
| 02:53 | schuster | Same here... Had a nice garden party tonight... |
| 02:55 | larsw | is there a deadline for kohacon Call for Papers? a date after which new proposals for talks/panels/etc won't be acceptedd? |
| 02:55 | chris | not yet, but we should make one |
| 02:56 | larsw | perhaps that'd be good to discuss in tomorrow's kohacon meeting |
| 02:56 | chris | yup |
| 02:57 | * larsw | e-mails Russ with suggestion |
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| 04:47 | chris | we need to shift all this js out of the templates into files, then put expires headers on them, will decrease the pageload size on a lot of pages |
| 04:47 | * chris | writes notes to himself |
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| 05:09 | chris | missing syspref too |
| 05:10 | $maxitems = ( C4::Context->preference('maxItemsinSearchResults') ) ? C4::Context->preference('maxItemsinSearchResults') - 1 : 1 | |
| 05:13 | Amit_G | heya chris |
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| 05:36 | robin | chris: when you're home, does Koha have a way of specifying a circulation list? As in, "when an item arrives, it should go to these people first"? |
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| 07:11 | chris | robin: for serials yes, called a routing list |
| 07:11 | in theory you could use it for any type of item | |
| 07:11 | robin | OK, they'll be asking about that tomorrow I expect :) |
| 07:11 | chris | :) |
| 07:12 | hdl_laptop: you about? | |
| 07:12 | hdl_laptop | hi chris and all |
| 07:14 | chris | hi hdl_laptop :) hope you had a good weekend, was yesterday mothers day in france too? |
| 07:14 | hdl_laptop | it is a little later afaik |
| 07:14 | rather at the begining of June | |
| 07:15 | chris | hdl_laptop: i notice that mail from lists.koha.org doesnt seem to be happening? |
| 07:15 | ahhh | |
| 07:15 | hdl_laptop | I saw your email |
| 07:16 | chris | cool |
| 07:22 | robin | chris: is it intentionally confusing that 'url' is described as 'Uniform Resource Identifier'? :) |
| 07:23 | pedantically, they're different things... | |
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| 07:27 | chris | unintentionally confusing :) |
| 07:38 | robin | chris: how fun does a 4.7MB MARC XML file sound :) it's what I'm up to now, and I now just have to sort out some stuff relating to appending multiple columns into one field, and dewey validation, left. |
| 07:38 | chris | that should be fine :) |
| 07:38 | * chris | sends another email to koha-devel |
| 07:40 | kf | good morning all :) |
| 07:40 | chris | hi kf |
| 07:48 | * robin | calls it an evening |
| 07:49 | robin | otherwise I'll start dreaming about MARC records again :( |
| 07:49 | chris | yeah you don't want to do that :) |
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| 08:09 | chris | hi nahuel |
| 08:10 | kf | is this still correct? http://koha.org/documentation/[…]earchterm=browser |
| 08:12 | chris | maybe for 3.0 |
| 08:15 | kf | hm, ok, I will state that koha follows web standards with no ref |
| 08:15 | chris | i would say, attempts to follow web standards |
| 08:16 | kf | good point |
| 08:16 | chris | or aims to be standards compliant |
| 08:18 | kf | chris: another question is about duplicate check in cataloging, no idea how this works - the question is about the fields that are checked |
| 08:18 | chris | when you add a new one and it says this loosk like a duplicate? |
| 08:18 | kf | yes |
| 08:19 | I tried to find the code, but did not really find out how it works | |
| 08:20 | chris | its in C4::Search |
| 08:20 | it checks the isbn first | |
| 08:20 | nahuel | hi chilts |
| 08:20 | chris, | |
| 08:20 | chris | if that matches, it stops looking and says this looks like a duplicate |
| 08:21 | if that doesnt match, it then checks title, author and itemtype | |
| 08:21 | if all 3 of those match, says duplicate | |
| 08:22 | kf | chris++ |
| 08:22 | thx a lot | |
| 08:23 | but why does it check the item type? | |
| 08:24 | chris | because if you have same title, same author, but one is large print and one is paperback, then they aren't a duplicate |
| 08:25 | kf | but the check is during cataloging - so it will check with the biblio-level-itype and not the item-level-itype |
| 08:25 | have to keep this in mind, our libraries are all using item-level-itypes | |
| 08:26 | chris | yep thats fine |
| 08:26 | but if you enter one the same as one you already have, then you should be just adding an item anyway, not a new record | |
| 08:33 | kf | chris: thats right. I was thinking about how this field is set in our libraries, they do not edit it, its set to a standard value |
| 08:34 | miguel | good morning |
| 08:34 | kf | good morning miguel |
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| 08:55 | vdsmile | hello everybody |
| 08:55 | I have a question about koha | |
| 08:57 | I want develop a module of password lost | |
| 08:57 | haev you an idea ? | |
| 08:58 | kf | so that users can request new passwords in the opac? |
| 09:01 | vdsmile | not in the opac but in the back |
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| 09:21 | kmkale | good afrernoon all |
| 09:21 | @weather Mumbai | |
| 09:21 | munin | kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 33.0�C (2:10 PM IST on May 10, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 27.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:12 | kf | @weather Konstanz |
| 10:12 | munin | kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 12.0�C (12:00 PM CEST on May 10, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.73 in 1006 hPa (Rising). |
| 10:21 | chris | @wunder wellington, nz |
| 10:21 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0�C (10:00 PM NZST on May 10, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Rising). |
| 10:22 | kf | same temperature :) |
| 10:23 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
| 10:23 | munin | chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 8.1�C (6:23 AM EDT on May 10, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Rising). |
| 10:24 | chris_n | g'morning |
| 10:24 | kf | hi chris_n :) |
| 10:26 | gmcharlt: around? | |
| 10:26 | gmcharlt | kf: yes |
| 10:26 | kf | hi :) |
| 10:26 | I updated my installation to test xslt translation | |
| 10:27 | with english search works, with German I get an error 500 page | |
| 10:28 | gmcharlt | what error messages do you get in the Apache error log? |
| 10:28 | kf | give me a minute |
| 10:30 | is this log under koha or var/log/apache2? | |
| 10:34 | ah I think I found it http://pastebin.com/ds4axd2y | |
| 10:39 | gmcharlt: lunch time now, just let me know if you want me to test something or add this to the bug, will read back later | |
| 10:40 | gmcharlt | kf: looks like the XSL may not have survived the translation |
| 10:41 | I'd be curious to see what xmllint --noout /path/to/de-DE/xslt/MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl shows | |
| 10:41 | kf | have 3 more minutes - will test |
| 10:42 | installing libxml2-utils | |
| 10:43 | a long list of error messages... | |
| 10:45 | http://pastebin.com/Mh7YkdmU | |
| 10:47 | have to leave now, will be back in about 30 minutes | |
| 11:00 | gmcharlt | kf: looks like a bad translation - the closing </img> tags for the format icons were not supplied |
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| 11:12 | kmkale | @seen wizzyrea |
| 11:12 | munin | kmkale: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 2 days, 13 hours, 46 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> huh. http://feedproxy.google.com/~r[…]10-web-directions |
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| 11:16 | kf | gmcharlt: perhaps another problem with pootle, es-ES and fr-FR also dont work |
| 11:17 | gmcharlt | kf: looks that way; I'll add a fallback to the English XSLT in cases where the non-English ones don't work |
| 11:17 | kf | and Im pretty sure I translated/copied all code |
| 11:17 | gmcharlt: good idea, I will try to repair our xslt files | |
| 11:20 | there was a lot of code in pootle, I tried to copy all of it, but perhaps I translated something by mistake | |
| 11:26 | kmkale | @seen chris_n |
| 11:26 | munin | kmkale: chris_n was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 2 minutes, and 1 second ago: <chris_n> g'morning |
| 11:26 | kf | comparing de-DE and en - not sure where the missing img is |
| 11:27 | ok, ... it was too obvious | |
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| 11:34 | kf | gmcharlt: I think it not a problem with pootle, the img tags are not in pootle, just the strings. so automatic translation seems to break xslt files :( |
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| 11:48 | kf | gmcharlt: I added /> to all img tags and now the search is working. want me to add a new bug report fort his? |
| 11:48 | his = this | |
| 11:48 | gmcharlt | yes, please |
| 11:50 | kf | severity? |
| 11:55 | gmcharlt | blocker |
| 11:56 | kf | thx, I hope my description is understandable |
| 11:59 | bug 4472 | |
| 11:59 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4472 blocker, P5, ---, chris bigballofwax.co.nz, NEW, img tags in xslt broken after automatic translation |
| 12:06 | kf | gmcharlt: close bug 4403? |
| 12:06 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4403 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, ASSIGNED, XSLT files not translated |
| 12:06 | gmcharlt | yep |
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| 12:10 | kf | I found another related bug 3214 |
| 12:10 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3214 enhancement, P3, ---, jmfliblime.com, NEW, OPAC XSLT stylesheets are not translatable |
| 12:11 | nengard | is anyone else getting emails from the bugs or commits mailing lists? |
| 12:11 | I haven't gotten any since Friday morning | |
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| 12:11 | nengard | and I know that there were commits cause I just did a fetch and got stuff :) |
| 12:11 | also I edited/submitted bugs and got no emails | |
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| 12:12 | gmcharlt | nengard: looks like an issue with email - chris dropped BibLibre a note asking them to check |
| 12:12 | nengard | okey dokey!! Thanks :) |
| 12:12 | gmcharlt, should we get the commits list to point to the new git repo? Or was that done already? | |
| 12:12 | kf | just noticed it too :) |
| 12:13 | changed bugs and no mails got out | |
| 12:14 | nengard: can you test zotero export from koha detail page? Its not working for me. result list is fine. | |
| 12:14 | nengard | kf - there is a bug report about that - it does not work from the detail page - it shows 2 titles as exportable, and if you choose one it gives you a ton of errors |
| 12:14 | kf | nengard: ah, sorry. |
| 12:15 | yes, thats exactly what happens. will search the bug. | |
| 12:15 | nengard | http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4018 |
| 12:15 | munin | 04Bug 4018: blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinettibiblibre.com, ASSIGNED, Coins support problems and xslt |
| 12:15 | nengard | no problem at all!!! |
| 12:15 | we can't all know about all bugs ;) hehe | |
| 12:15 | kf | I think I dont want to know about all bugs :) |
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| 12:19 | kf | nengard: now you were faster than me :) Bugzilla: Mid-air collision detected! |
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| 12:19 | nengard | LOL :) sorry |
| 12:20 | kf | no problem :) |
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| 12:56 | kf | is there a bug for "swapped" sysprefs (where on is off and off is on)? |
| 12:56 | and is 3164 a blocker? | |
| 12:56 | bug 3164 | |
| 12:56 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3164 major, P5, ---, jmfliblime.com, NEW, OPAC-placed holds broken in SingleBranchMode |
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| 12:57 | jwagner | kf, I seem to remember the swapped syspref problem was a translation issue and someone is working on it. But I could be wrong.... |
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| 12:58 | kf | jwagner: I think there was a problem, but its also wrong in English :) |
| 12:58 | nyaeven | hello, i am new to koha i hope you can help me, when i try and do a z30.50 from the catalouging interface i am getting the following error: Can't call method "data" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/cataloguing/z3950_search.pl line 233. does anyone know why this might be happning? |
| 12:58 | kf | nyaeven: which version of koha are u using? |
| 12:59 | nyaeven | 3.05 |
| 12:59 | on debian, if that makes any difference | |
| 13:00 | kf | does this happen with every z39.50-server? what are you searching for? |
| 13:00 | im not aware of a bug, but we are using 3.01.61 | |
| 13:04 | nyaeven | i am just doing a title search on 'computers' |
| 13:09 | kf | nyaeven: Im sorry, I have no idea why it is not working. perhaps someone else can help |
| 13:11 | owen | Line 233 says "$isbn = $marcrecord->field($bibliotag)->data;" |
| 13:11 | I wonder if it's a problem with the info coming from "my ($bibliotag,$bibliosubf)=GetMarcFromKohaField('biblioitems.isbn','');" above that | |
| 13:12 | nyaeven | nps kf :) |
| 13:12 | nengard | off to teach a webinar - be back this afternoon |
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| 13:12 | kmkale | if I want to uograde a machine using 3.00.00.107 to master is it a one shot upgrade or a rolling one? |
| 13:13 | nyaeven | owen: how would i be able to tell if it's a problem that info? |
| 13:14 | owen | I'm not sure nyaeven |
| 13:14 | nyaeven | hmm my testing was not complete it seems, for a couple of the servers i'm getting Results Connection failed to bobcat.nyu.edu Nothing found. Try another search. |
| 13:15 | kf | gmcharlt: can I close bug 4208? not sure what you meant with "the opensearch template is a special case" |
| 13:15 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4208 blocker, P1, ---, chrisbigballofwax.co.nz, NEW, Many submit buttons are not translatable in 3.2 |
| 13:24 | kf | nengard: have you solved your problem with amazon content? I m testing it now and get no reviews (just as you wrote in your email) |
| 13:24 | ah, she is gone teaching her webinar | |
| 13:25 | owen | kf: Last I heard her problem wasn't resolved yet |
| 13:27 | kf | is there a bug report? I also noticed the amazonlocale is not used everywhere, still investigating, but perhaps part of my problem (no reviews in English, but in German) |
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| 13:30 | gmcharlt | kf: you can close 208 |
| 13:30 | 4208, even | |
| 13:31 | kf | gmcharlt: done |
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| 13:33 | owen | What is it with holds in HEAD? There always seems to be something.... |
| 13:33 | The OPAC says "none of these items can be placed on hold," but all are available | |
| 13:35 | kf | ah check your circulation rules |
| 13:35 | I had this problem and it was because maxreserves in smart rules defaults to 0 | |
| 13:36 | I considered writing a bug report for this... because its confusing. max checkouts defaults to 'no limit' when empty | |
| 13:41 | owen | You're right kf, I had my circ policy messed up from testing another bug |
| 13:41 | kf | what do you think - is this a usability bugß |
| 13:41 | ? | |
| 13:42 | gmcharlt | depends on the type of library you run |
| 13:42 | if you allow holds, default unlimited is better | |
| 13:42 | if you don't allow holds, default 0 is better | |
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| 13:53 | kmkale | when I am printing fee receipts is there a easy way to change / remove the - sign that appears in front of the amount? |
| 13:53 | 'amount' => sprintf("%.2f",$accts->[$i]{'amount'}) | |
| 13:54 | kf | gmcharlt: ok :) |
| 13:55 | gmcharlt | I think the deeper UI issue is that there's no easy way for library staff to readily determine exactly why an item is non-holdable without deep familiarity of Koha's hold policy configuration |
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| 13:59 | owen | I notice that when I was allowed zero holds the message said "none of these items can be placed on hold" but when I exceed my holds limit it explains that I've exceeded that limit |
| 14:00 | I guess there needs to be a "you are not permitted to place holds" message for the OPAC and a condition set up to catch that situation | |
| 14:01 | kf | owen: have you checked with staff? I think there is a better error message |
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| 14:15 | kf | Im adding a bug for amazon reviews not working, I compared 3.1.61 and current head, got reviews in 3.1, no reviews for the same titles and same configuration in head |
| 14:17 | owen | kf: Works for me :| |
| 14:17 | kf | oooh |
| 14:17 | so what is nengard's and my problem? | |
| 14:17 | have you activated all amazon content? | |
| 14:18 | owen | I have OPACAmazonEnabled, OPACAmazonCoverImages , OPACAmazonSimilarItems , and OPACAmazonReviews all on and working |
| 14:18 | wizzyrea | good morning. |
| 14:18 | owen | Hi wizzyrea |
| 14:18 | gmcharlt | nahuel: could you unstick my latest koha ML email? |
| 14:19 | kf | have you set all three private, accesskey and AmazonAssocTag? |
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| 14:20 | slef | did I send a koha list email from wrong domain? :-/ |
| 14:20 | owen | slef: Mailing list problems all around since Friday |
| 14:21 | gmcharlt | nahuel: oops, disregard, wrong list |
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| 14:32 | kf | owen: not sure what to do about the reviews :( my installation is a fresh isntallation from head from about a week ago. I see no difference in the settings between my 3.0.61 and the 3.2. Only that no reviews show |
| 14:33 | owen | No "similar items" either kf? |
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| 14:37 | owen | kf if you "select variable,value from systempreferences where variable like '%Amazon%'" do you see "OPACAmazonReviews | 1" |
| 14:38 | ...and "OPACAmazonEnabled | 1" | |
| 14:38 | ? | |
| 14:38 | kf | owen: found none |
| 14:39 | testing your sql now | |
| 14:39 | but I checked in the old syspref editor | |
| 14:39 | and in the new | |
| 14:39 | you showed me how to open the old syspref editor some time ago :) | |
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| 14:40 | kf | Locale is DE, all other settings are 1, except AmazonAssocTag which is empty |
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| 14:46 | owen | Sorry kf, I can't imagine what is different about my system that would make it work for me when yours and nengard's are not |
| 14:47 | However, I'm starting to look like I'm in the minority | |
| 14:47 | kf | netviewer training mom |
| 14:48 | be back in a few minutes | |
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| 15:08 | kf | owen: I will reply to nicole's mail |
| 15:09 | owen: thx for your help and sorry, had to show one of our libraries how to catalog fast adds :) | |
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| 15:26 | hdl_laptop | hi jwagner |
| 15:28 | jwagner | Hi, hdl_laptop |
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| 15:34 | kf | wb nengard |
| 15:34 | nengard | thanks :() |
| 15:34 | or :) | |
| 15:35 | kf | I answered your mail about amazon on the mailing list - no Amazon reviews |
| 15:36 | :( can someone test limit to currently available? | |
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| 15:37 | owen | kf: By clicking "limit to currently available items" in the OPAC search results? |
| 15:37 | kf | yes |
| 15:38 | I have 3 items, record A: available, checked out, record B: checked out | |
| 15:38 | I think my result should be record A? | |
| 15:39 | owen | My test: Initial search: 249 results. Limited to available: zero results |
| 15:39 | sekjal | what a coincidence, I was just reading the code surrounding "limit to available" |
| 15:41 | owen | kf: Did you see that there is a discussion of this issue on the mailing list? |
| 15:41 | * owen | didn't realize the problem was in HEAD |
| 15:42 | owen | I tried chris's suggestion to run misc/migration/fix_onloan.pl |
| 15:42 | kf | owen: no, can you point me to it? |
| 15:42 | I added ths items | |
| 15:42 | no migration | |
| 15:43 | I imported records without items, so had to manually add them | |
| 15:43 | owen | http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipe[…]0-May/023776.html |
| 15:43 | nengard | any word on the koha emails that aren't coming through? |
| 15:43 | wizzyrea_away | i've gotten a slew today |
| 15:43 | owen | I've gotten some, but not a slew |
| 15:43 | kf | nengard: not on irc so far |
| 15:44 | * kf | goes to look up slew |
| 15:44 | chris_n | @dict slew |
| 15:44 | munin | chris_n: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: slew See {slay}; gcide: Slew \Slew\, imp. of {Slay}. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Slew \Slew\, v. t. See {Slue}. [1913 Webster]; wn: slay v : kill intentionally and with premeditation; "The mafia boss ordered his enemies murdered" [syn: {murder}, {hit}, {dispatch}, {bump off}, {polish off}, {remove}] [also: {slew}, {slain}]; gcide: Slew \Slew\ (sl[=oo]), (7 more messages) |
| 15:44 | chris_n | @more |
| 15:44 | munin | chris_n: n. [See {Slough} a wet place.] A wet place; a river inlet. The praire round about is wet, at times almost marshy, especially at the borders of the great reedy slews. --T. Roosevelt. [Webster 1913 Suppl.]; moby-thes: 55 Moby Thesaurus words for "slew": batch, bunch, clump, cluster, considerable, copse, crop, deal, gobs, good deal, great deal, group, grouping, groupment, grove, hassock, heap, heaps, (6 more messages) |
| 15:44 | kf | a lot? |
| 15:45 | chris_n | kf: see the Moby Thasaurus words there |
| 15:45 | batch, bunch, etc | |
| 15:45 | yes 'a lot' | |
| 15:45 | kf | always get to learn new words here :) |
| 15:45 | chris_n | gobs... hehe |
| 15:45 | copse is a new one on me | |
| 15:47 | owen | the Wiktionary definition is much simpler: (US) A large number. |
| 15:47 | But I'm surprised by the "(US)". US-specific? | |
| 15:48 | Anyway... sekjal: any luck understanding Koha's definition of 'available' ? | |
| 15:49 | rhcl | @dick copse |
| 15:49 | munin | rhcl: Error: "dick" is not a valid command. |
| 15:49 | rhcl | @dict copse |
| 15:49 | munin | rhcl: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: copse n : a dense growth of bushes [syn: {brush}, {brushwood}, {coppice}, {thicket}]; gcide: Copse \Copse\, v. t. 1. To trim or cut; -- said of small trees, brushwood, tufts of grass, etc. --Halliwell. [1913 Webster] 2. To plant and preserve, as a copse. --Swift. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Copse \Copse\, n. [Contr. from coppice.] A wood of small growth; a (2 more messages) |
| 15:49 | sekjal | owen: until Nov 9, 2009, it was defined as items.onloan is NULL AND items.itemslost = 0 |
| 15:49 | slef | @dict scads |
| 15:49 | munin | slef: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: carangid \carangid\ n. any fish of the family {Carangidae}, including the {cavallas}, {jacks}, {pompanos} and {scads}. [WordNet 1.5]; wn: scads n : a large number or amount; "made lots of new friends"; "she amassed a mountain of newspapers" [syn: {tons}, {dozens}, {heaps}, {lots}, {mountain}, {piles}, {scores}, {stacks}, {loads}, {rafts}, {slews}, {wads}, (3 more messages) |
| 15:50 | sekjal | then that section of buildQuery() was commented out, and 'available' was dealt with less explicitly |
| 15:52 | looks like ' and available' is being tacked on to the end of the ccl query, and it's left to Zebra to know what that means | |
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| 15:59 | rhcl | @dict staid |
| 15:59 | munin | rhcl: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Staid \Staid\ (st[=a]d), imp. & p. p. of {Stay}. [1913 Webster]; wn: staid adj : characterized by dignity and propriety [syn: {sedate}]; gcide: Staid \Staid\, a. [From {Stay} to stop.] Sober; grave; steady; sedate; composed; regular; not wild, volatile, flighty, or fanciful. "Sober and staid persons." --Addison. [1913 Webster] O'erlaid with black, staid (8 more messages) |
| 16:00 | owen | hdl_laptop: Do you know anything about the mailing list problems? |
| 16:18 | kf: Regarding Bug 4475, I notice there doesn't seem to be a "http://images.amazon.de" as there is a "http://images.amazon.com" I'm not sure how that affects non-US users | |
| 16:18 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4475 normal, P5, ---, oleonardmyacpl.org, NEW, AmazonLocale not used consistently |
| 16:19 | owen | kf: Do you get good cover image results normally? I'm curious, because any results you get are from images.amazon.com. |
| 16:19 | kf | sorry, meeting, will read back later |
| 16:19 | covers are perfect and link is to .de | |
| 16:19 | * owen | notices amazon.fr and amazon.de seem to use "ecx.images-amazon.com" as a source for their covers... |
| 16:38 | kf | owen: dont know if I would see more covers with those services |
| 16:38 | owen: but we have covers for German titles in our catalog | |
| 16:38 | owen | I guess I would assume that we're using the right source if you're happy with the results. |
| 16:38 | kf | even for school books |
| 16:39 | thx for fixing the link | |
| 16:39 | :) | |
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| 16:43 | kf | ok, time to leave for me - bye #koha! |
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| 17:06 | slef | bah, another "shut up and code" email about listings requiring solidarity and linkback |
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| 17:12 | javier | hello |
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| 17:14 | JavierFM | brendan nos conocemos?? |
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| 17:17 | JavierFM | hello |
| 17:17 | somebody want talk?? | |
| 17:18 | owen | Do you have a question JavierFM ? |
| 17:18 | JavierFM | no |
| 17:18 | but I just want to talk!!! | |
| 17:19 | owen | This channel is not a social gathering, it is a place for discussing use and development of Koha |
| 17:21 | JavierFM | owen, sorry my friend did you know where i can make friens |
| 17:22 | owen??? | |
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| 17:23 | nengard | wizzyrea did you say that the manual auto updates on sundays? my content from last week isn't showing on the web version of the manual today |
| 17:23 | hi Lee | |
| 17:23 | Lee | hey Nicole and Liz |
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| 17:28 | brendan | hi Lee |
| 17:29 | wizzyrea_away | hey lee |
| 17:31 | oh one sec, i think I'm pulling from the wrong repo | |
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| 17:34 | cait | hi #koha |
| 17:35 | Lee | hey Liz are you really dumping FB? |
| 17:41 | chris | been there done that |
| 17:41 | owen | it's getting pretty scary... I'm still on the fence about whether the social connections are worth it |
| 17:43 | Lee | hmm |
| 17:43 | my life is pretty boring- but I do hate the targeted marketing | |
| 17:44 | hey brendan! | |
| 17:45 | there is a volunteer irc meeting today ...right? | |
| 17:50 | chris | yes, in about 4 hours |
| 17:52 | * owen | would really like to be receiving bug emails again |
| 17:52 | chris | i have a bunch of mail for koha-devel too |
| 17:55 | nengard | i get too much out of FB (like jobs) - but it is very scary and I think I'll be making some major profile edits |
| 17:56 | chris - mail to send to devel? or mail that came through? I haven't gotten any yet today | |
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| 17:56 | owen | "Can't locate MARC/Crosswalk/DublinCore.pm in @INC" Anyone know if that is something I can apt-get? |
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| 17:57 | gmcharlt | owen: libmarc-crosswalk-dublincore-perl |
| 17:57 | owen | Thanks gmcharlt, I don't think I would have guessed that off the top of my head ;) |
| 17:57 | gmcharlt | owen: ah, but you can |
| 17:58 | perl module Foo::Bar will almost always be libfoo-bar-perl | |
| 17:58 | if it's packaged for Debian | |
| 17:58 | owen | Oh, I didn't realize it was consistent |
| 17:58 | chris | nengard: ive sent bunches, it hasn't come through |
| 17:59 | nengard | okay - same here |
| 17:59 | not that i sent anything - just that i'm not getting anything | |
| 17:59 | Lee | I am working on a grant to migrate xl tab delimited files into Marc XML or DC anyone out there interested? |
| 18:00 | chris | Lee: robin at catalyst is working on one to do csv (extending to tab would be trivial) |
| 18:00 | its already mostly done | |
| 18:00 | Lee | great! its a paying gig |
| 18:00 | chris | too late |
| 18:01 | Lee | if i give the # of records think I could get an estimate? |
| 18:02 | gmcharlt | # records + sample of what the source data looks like + idea of what the records will be used for after they're converted |
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| 18:02 | chris | i meant robin is working on a script, so you can do it into MARCXML yourself :) |
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| 18:02 | Lee | ;) |
| 18:02 | gmcharlt | and MarcEdit can do CSV to MARC, I believe |
| 18:02 | Lee | maybe...with a little assistance |
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| 18:03 | chris | yep, this script will free software of course |
| 18:03 | Lee | naturally |
| 18:03 | chris | we are actually using it to convert a db, but its general enough that it should be useful for anyone thats the idea |
| 18:04 | Lee | we are co-opting with a local museum to add them as a branch to our opac |
| 18:04 | their records are unsearchable | |
| 18:04 | as is | |
| 18:04 | hence undiscoverable | |
| 18:05 | you get the idea | |
| 18:05 | gmcharlt | records for their books, or records for their "stuff"? |
| 18:05 | Lee | its an IMLS grant |
| 18:05 | mostly all images | |
| 18:05 | TIF anf jpeg | |
| 18:06 | although some day DC would be helpful for the 3d objects, eh? | |
| 18:06 | gmcharlt | are the images on display already? if not sounds like it might be a job for kete as well |
| 18:06 | Lee | yeah I was thinking about Kete |
| 18:06 | we have a HUGE archive in town too | |
| 18:07 | http://www.miningmuseum.org/ | |
| 18:08 | http://www.buttearchives.org/collections.php | |
| 18:09 | I want to get all our records linked and searchable with Koha or possibly Kete | |
| 18:10 | owen | Okay, another one: Text/CSV/Encoded.pm. |
| 18:11 | apt-get doesn't find libtext-csv-encoded-perl | |
| 18:11 | chris_n | owen: try apt-cache search Text::CSV::Encoded |
| 18:11 | * chris_n | seems to remember you have to cpan that one however |
| 18:12 | owen | No output at all from the apt-cache command |
| 18:12 | chris | will be soon |
| 18:12 | http://qa.debian.org/developer[…]et.nz&comaint=yes | |
| 18:13 | chris_n | you'll have to get it from cpan for now owen |
| 18:13 | * owen | is amused by the "excuses" column in that table |
| 18:16 | would add all kinds of excuses to his unfixed bugs | |
| 18:18 | chris_n | hehe |
| 18:22 | jwagner | The dog ate my patch? |
| 18:23 | chris | owen: its in unstable, it *might* isntall if you grab the .deb and sudo dpkg -i it on |
| 18:23 | slef | Someone mentioned http://www.joindiaspora.com to me as a forthcoming FB-alternative. |
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| 18:24 | owen | Hi jdavidb |
| 18:29 | chris | Lee: kete uses zebra too |
| 18:29 | so with pazpar2 and a bit of hackery, you can search koha and kete simultaneously and group the results | |
| 18:30 | walter is planning to talk about koha + kete at kohacon | |
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| 18:34 | gmcharlt | koha-patches also seems to be one of the victims of the mailing list outage |
| 18:34 | chris | yeah, all @lists seems to be |
| 18:34 | mail is not bouncing | |
| 18:34 | so its queued up somewhere, behind a cork | |
| 18:35 | someone has jammed the tubes | |
| 18:36 | slef | anyone got a support number for biblibre? nengard? |
| 18:36 | nengard | nope |
| 18:37 | chris | i think they are aware of it, i emailed and hdl said he saw my email |
| 18:38 | slef | well, if anyone would like our sysadmins to help, let me know and I'll send ssh public keys |
| 18:39 | although we don't have much spare hosting capacity just now, I think we could add it to our monitoring setup if we had access | |
| 18:40 | gmcharlt | slef: what do you use for monitoring? |
| 18:40 | slef | gmcharlt: the core is nagios3. |
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| 18:41 | slef | but the main thing is we're sysadmins and we're in Europe where I think lists is, so we should notice and react fairly quick to alerts |
| 18:42 | gmcharlt | sounds like a good idea - I hope biblibre picks up on it |
| 18:42 | slef | I'll mention it next time we see them |
| 18:43 | for now, I'm hacking PHP :-( | |
| 18:43 | gmcharlt | my condolences |
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| 18:58 | cait | javaserver pages homework... |
| 18:58 | chris | thats even worse |
| 19:01 | slef | chris++ |
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| 19:03 | zico | hi |
| 19:03 | i need your help very badly guys | |
| 19:03 | owen | Hm, so Perl > PHP > JSP ? I wonder how the rest of the hierarchy goes |
| 19:04 | zico | my koha-3.0.5 cannot print unicode barcode label |
| 19:04 | i mean, i need to print barcode in Bangla ( Bangladesh ). but, this is not working | |
| 19:04 | i have more than 10,000 books in Bangla | |
| 19:04 | chris_n | zico: did you check out kbarcode? |
| 19:05 | zico | Now, some professors are really giving a bad look at me & my team |
| 19:05 | chris_n: kbarcode is based on KDE | |
| 19:05 | but, our library officer is running windows | |
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| 19:07 | chris | does the barcode printer in master handle unicode? does anyone know? |
| 19:08 | its very unlikely that anyone can back port the barcode work to 3.0.5 (or would have time to) | |
| 19:08 | firing up virtualbox with linux on it, and kbarcode would probably be the best bet | |
| 19:12 | zico | chris: virtualbox + kbarcode??? owaoo!!! it`s too high for that non-techy guy!!! :D |
| 19:14 | wizzyrea_away | ok... the problem is that you need to print unicode barcodes on windows, ones that have or have not been generated by koha? |
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| 19:17 | zico | wizzyrea: i need to print unicode barcode generated by koha |
| 19:19 | wizzyrea | would something like this work? |
| 19:19 | http://www.softmatic.com/ | |
| 19:21 | chris | well its not the barcode itself, its the spine lable, ie the barcode doesnt is just some lines |
| 19:21 | wow, grammar fail | |
| 19:21 | nengard | big time! :) |
| 19:21 | chris | what i meant is, it is the spine label that needs to be able to be generated in unicode |
| 19:21 | the barcode is just lines | |
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| 19:22 | chris_n | chris: its not strictly a koha-barcode utf8 issue; it is also a pdf standards issue |
| 19:22 | chris | yep |
| 19:23 | chris_n | I pointed someone the other day (maybe zico) to an list thread that sums it up |
| 19:23 | chris | what i was trying to say, the chances of someone getting it to work for 3.0.5 are zero to none |
| 19:23 | chris_n | yup |
| 19:23 | chris | so exploring other options is the alternative |
| 19:24 | wizzyrea | zico: could you export them to csv and then do some kind of merge with word to get your labels? |
| 19:24 | word/openoffice | |
| 19:25 | zico | wizzyrea: when i import it in csv, i got some "symbols" instead of Bangla language |
| 19:33 | slef | owen: god writes in Lisp code. |
| 19:34 | chris | prolog i thought |
| 19:35 | jdavidb | Actually, perl: http://xkcd.com/224/ |
| 19:35 | slef | No, I wasn't joking: http://www.catonmat.net/blog/m[…]sp-eternal-flame/ |
| 19:35 | well, maybe a little ;-) | |
| 19:45 | owen | All done, folks, see you later |
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| 19:55 | mib_98t2xr | Hi folks |
| 19:56 | I just ran the "upgrade" from koha-3.02.00-alpha, { perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /usr/share/koha/misc/koha-install-log make make test sudo make upgrade } and now both the install log and the about koha page agree: 3.01.00.111 Not exactally the result I was hoping for. Does anybody know 1) how could the two have gotten out of sync in the first pl | |
| 19:57 | ce? 2) why don't they both say 3.02.00.xxx? Here's something. The koha/apache error log says: [Mon May 10 15:12:42 2010] [error] [client 10.161.4.68] [Mon May 10 15:12:42 2010] about.pl: Can't exec "httpd2": No such file or directory at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/about.pl line 49., referer: http://hslcat.med.nyu.edu:8080[…]/koha/mainpage.pl when | |
| 19:57 | I click on "About Koha" | |
| 19:58 | cait | mib-98t2xr: there is no 3.02 yet, because its not released. 3.01 is correct |
| 19:59 | once 3.2 is released the number will be 3.02.00.00 | |
| 19:59 | mib_98t2xr | So http://koha-community.org/category/alpha/ is suppose to list itself as 3.01? |
| 20:00 | cait | yes, its 01 until release, .03 will be development for 3.4 and so on |
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| 20:01 | mib_98t2xr | O.K. So how am I to distinguish the version I currently have from the version I had before the upgrade? |
| 20:02 | cait | not sure what you ask |
| 20:02 | chris_n | mib_98t2xr: what version did you have before the upgrade? |
| 20:02 | cait | ah, thx chris_n :) |
| 20:02 | chris_n | ahh... alpha |
| 20:03 | mib_98t2xr | I'm asking about how I tell people what version I have. Right now I know I've got the 3.02 alpha, but the in system documentatation (i.e. the about page) says something else |
| 20:03 | cait | alpha2 ;) |
| 20:04 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 20:04 | chris_n | mib_98t2xr: .111 is alpha |
| 20:04 | cait | you can give the number 3.01.00.111 |
| 20:04 | chris_n | alpha2 is .133 |
| 20:04 | mib_98t2xr | O.K. any idea about the new error message I get in the logs when I click on the about page? |
| 20:05 | chris_n | we don't know what the "new error message" is |
| 20:05 | mib_98t2xr | "The koha/apache error log says: [Mon May 10 15:12:42 2010] [error] [client 10.161.4.68] [Mon May 10 15:12:42 2010] about.pl: Can't exec "httpd2": No such file or directory at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/about.pl line 49., referer: http://hslcat.med.nyu.edu:8080[…]/koha/mainpage.pl" |
| 20:05 | cait | ah, sorry |
| 20:06 | mib_98t2xr | No need for apologies, you guys are helping me. I'm grateful. |
| 20:07 | chris_n | what platform are you running on? |
| 20:07 | mib_98t2xr | Ubuntu |
| 20:07 | chris_n | it appears that your apache is not returning a version number via 'httpd -v' |
| 20:08 | what version of ubuntu? | |
| 20:08 | mib_98t2xr | 8.04.2 |
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| 20:10 | mib_98t2xr | I realize that's pretty far back. Do you think an old platform might have practical implications? |
| 20:10 | i.e. real "stuff doesn't work" errors as opposed to errors showing up in logs. | |
| 20:10 | chris_n | nope, you can safely ignore that error |
| 20:11 | mib_98t2xr | O.K. guys. Thanks again. You guys are the best! |
| 20:11 | chris_n | np |
| 20:16 | cait | chris_n++ |
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| 20:25 | chris_n | wb paul_p |
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| 20:58 | hdl_laptop | chris slef gmcharlt sorry about the list shortage |
| 20:58 | I asked nahuel to see that. | |
| 20:58 | But he was ill today | |
| 20:59 | hopefully all wil be ok tomorrow | |
| 20:59 | chris | thanks hdl_laptop |
| 20:59 | wow, my rss reader just went mental | |
| 21:00 | ptfs have just pushed a whole pile of things to their public repo !!! | |
| 21:01 | wizzyrea | !!! |
| 21:01 | * jdavidb | looks up from the bleeding stubs of his fingers, and nods. |
| 21:01 | chris | w00t |
| 21:01 | jdavidb++ | |
| 21:01 | * chris | updates his clones |
| 21:01 | wizzyrea | we've been looking over the release notes, there's some good stuff in there |
| 21:02 | * wizzyrea | wonders if she dares... |
| 21:02 | wizzyrea | ptfs++ |
| 21:02 | jdavidb++ | |
| 21:02 | jdavidb | thanks, Chris, but it wasn't just me. There should be some detail description stuff coming out in a PR shortly, but a lotta work went into what you're seein' there. |
| 21:02 | chris | sweet |
| 21:02 | jdavidb | jwagner++ |
| 21:02 | wizzyrea | jwagner++ |
| 21:03 | cait | jdavidb++ jwagner++ ptfs++ ;) |
| 21:03 | chris | i guess rebasing onto master is the next step? Sing out if you want a hand with that, hdl have a bunch of practice cherry-picking |
| 21:03 | * cait | wants to be as brave as liz ;) |
| 21:03 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 21:03 | jdavidb | We'll see where the honchos wanna go from here; Getting those branches up to master level shouldn't be overly hard; I've kept them all as tidy as I could. |
| 21:04 | (In other words, if you see something you want to haul to master and get into 3.4--or even 3.2, gmcharlt--grab that ball and run with it.) | |
| 21:04 | chris | sweet |
| 21:04 | i might do some topic branches for 3.4 | |
| 21:05 | (for features) | |
| 21:05 | and gmcharlt might want to grab some bug fixes :) | |
| 21:05 | wizzyrea | jdavidb, please tell your superiors thanks, it's really great to see your stuff |
| 21:05 | gmcharlt | chris: jdavidb: yep, already on it |
| 21:05 | jdavidb | There are quite a few nifty-nice-but-not-too-huge features--useful buttons and shortcuts--as well as some huge new features like item suppression in the OPAC and suspend-and-resume holds. |
| 21:05 | cait | liz, where are these release notes? github confuses me |
| 21:06 | gmcharlt | and yes |
| 21:06 | jdavidb++ | |
| 21:06 | jwagner++ | |
| 21:06 | chris | cait: http://github.com/ptfs/Koha-PTFS/commits/harley |
| 21:06 | wizzyrea | http://github.com/ptfs/Koha-PT[…]yReleaseNotes.pdf |
| 21:06 | gmcharlt | ptfs++ # good start |
| 21:06 | chris | last commit there |
| 21:06 | cait | thx! |
| 21:06 | paul_p | ptfs++ |
| 21:06 | jwagner | We'll soon have a more user-friendly link to the release notes up. |
| 21:06 | wizzyrea | Ah! There she is! |
| 21:06 | cait | hi jwagner |
| 21:06 | wizzyrea | we roused her! |
| 21:07 | * wizzyrea | highfives jwagner |
| 21:07 | wizzyrea | that 2nd one goes straight to the PDF |
| 21:07 | * cait | sends some more chocolate |
| 21:07 | paul_p | jwagner+= |
| 21:07 | jwagner++ | |
| 21:07 | wizzyrea | it's pretty friendly |
| 21:07 | paul_p | jdavidb++ |
| 21:08 | wizzyrea | well, as friendly as github gets |
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| 21:09 | jdavidb | @karma jwagner |
| 21:09 | munin | jdavidb: Karma for "jwagner" has been increased 32 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 32. |
| 21:09 | jdavidb | @karma jdavidb |
| 21:09 | munin | jdavidb: Karma for "jdavidb" has been increased 26 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 26. |
| 21:09 | jdavidb | Thanks, everyone. |
| 21:09 | wizzyrea | only 6 behind jdavidb ;) |
| 21:09 | cait | I will not finish this jsp homework today, becaue need to read release notes... |
| 21:10 | jwagner | wizzyrea, I could _use_ rousing. And so could jdavidb. A lot of overtime put into these features over the last year. |
| 21:11 | wizzyrea | it's obvious :) |
| 21:11 | cait | its awesome |
| 21:11 | worth all the chocolate ;) | |
| 21:11 | jdavidb | jwagner writes good release notes, doesn't she? Those are (all but one little paragraph) off her bat, not mine. |
| 21:14 | wizzyrea | ok, taking my girlie self to do girlie things. ttyl everyone |
| 21:14 | cait | bye wizzyrea |
| 21:14 | jdavidb | Links to a FAQ, a download tarball, the release notes, and a reminder link to github are now up at http://www.liblime.com/downloads |
| 21:15 | (looks like someone typoed the FAQ link; a comma snuck in. I'll ping 'em, but make that a period, and it works. | |
| 21:17 | chris | cool |
| 21:20 | mason | meh, rdl's box has hung... |
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| 21:20 | joetho | @karma jdavidb |
| 21:20 | munin | joetho: Karma for "jdavidb" has been increased 26 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 26. |
| 21:20 | joetho | @karma wizzyrea |
| 21:20 | munin | joetho: Karma for "wizzyrea" has been increased 91 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 91. |
| 21:21 | joetho | I just hope jdavid doesn't get fired for doing that |
| 21:22 | paul_p | joetho, doing what ? releasing their code? for sure, he's been asked by his bosses to do so ! |
| 21:22 | cait | why should he be fired? i think this is official |
| 21:22 | its already on koha.org too :) | |
| 21:22 | jdavidb | What, for tossing all those branches over the wall? nope. Someone at the hgher-up owes me happy hour. |
| 21:22 | jwagner | This is definitely official. We have committed all along to releasing these features. |
| 21:22 | It just took us a lot longer than we would have liked to get them all tidied up & ready to go. | |
| 21:23 | * jwagner | REALLY wishes we could have made the 3.2 code freeze.... |
| 21:23 | cait | me too |
| 21:23 | joetho | this is marvelous |
| 21:23 | cait | every time I hear about a new feature i want it immediately. now i have to wati for 50.... |
| 21:23 | *sigh* | |
| 21:24 | * jwagner | sends cait a boatload of patience :-) |
| 21:24 | joetho | maybe we could make an exception? |
| 21:24 | jwagner | But you'll note that we did set this up as a full install version as well as the individual branches. |
| 21:24 | gmcharlt | joetho: not if we want to see 3.2 come out this year |
| 21:24 | cait | jwagner: really needed :) |
| 21:24 | jdavidb | press release is up, at http://www.liblime.com/news/li[…]mmediate-download |
| 21:24 | jwagner | Just remember that the install version is based off the .061 code level so it won't have any of the 3.2 stuff. |
| 21:24 | chris_n | wow! ptfs++ |
| 21:24 | jwagner++ | |
| 21:24 | jdavidb++ | |
| 21:25 | cait | perhaps we could try and hurry up a bit with 3.4? :) |
| 21:25 | jwagner | We did cherry-pick a lot of bug fixes, most of which aren't mentioned in the release notes. Things like chris_n's followup patches for the label creator, etc. |
| 21:26 | jdavidb knows better than I do about the bug fixes. | |
| 21:26 | cait | but when you run harley, you cant update to 3.2 easily I think or 3.4 |
| 21:26 | jwagner | That's where we need to work with Galen & Chris. |
| 21:27 | jdavidb | Pretty much, if a bug was found by one of our customers, and a fix was in HEAD that wasn't in HEAD prior to Oct 12, I cherry-picked it. if someone sent a patch to the list, that hadn't made head, I snagged it and git-am'd it. |
| 21:27 | chris | yeah we are going to have to create an upgrade path |
| 21:27 | probably to 3.4 | |
| 21:27 | jdavidb | Just given the data struct changes, 3.0.x - |
| 21:27 | chris | its a bit late for 3.2 |
| 21:28 | jdavidb | to 3.4 will be easy. 3.2 should not be *too* hard. |
| 21:28 | chris | which means some of the refactoring is gonna have to slide |
| 21:28 | but thats a good topic for the next irc meeting :) | |
| 21:29 | jdavidb | chris: depends. We didn't do much to C4::Search, for instance, which I know was one of your big rocks. Might be able to get there without too much pain and suffering. |
| 21:29 | chris | C4::Search, C4::Languages, and DBIx::Class |
| 21:29 | are the ones id die in a ditch on | |
| 21:29 | the rest id love to have | |
| 21:30 | jdavidb | We didn't touch C4::Languages at all. There are some areas of overlap--notices, C4::Letters, in particular, and granular permissions will need some reconciliation. |
| 21:30 | * gmcharlt | concurs with chris, particularly regarding C4;:Search and C4::Languages |
| 21:30 | jwagner | And there's one big new Perl dependency -- the Aspell library |
| 21:31 | jdavidb | The "did you mean" feature is a little raw, but it functions; dbirmingham here is going to be adding a syspref so you select how many suggestions to get (or zero, to turn it off). |
| 21:32 | cait | upgrade path from where to where? |
| 21:32 | sorry, should really sleep, but cant sleep now... | |
| 21:32 | jdavidb | 3.0.x - harley - 3.4 should be a snap, depending on chris's work.. |
| 21:33 | cait | but where does 3.2 fit in there? |
| 21:33 | jdavidb | 3.0.x - harley - 3.2 will be tricky, but if you don't use some of the new geekery in harley that changes data structures, you should be okay. |
| 21:33 | chris | cait: for most ppl they will got 3.0.x to 3.2.x to 3.4.x |
| 21:33 | jdavidb | (since those features would disappear when you went to 3.2.) |
| 21:33 | chris | but it is important we provide an upgrade path for ptfs customers also |
| 21:34 | * chris_n | agrees |
| 21:34 | cait | I think we are most people then, running 3.01.61 in production right now |
| 21:34 | chris | yeah you are already 3.1.ish |
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| 21:34 | chris | so you will got to 3.2 when its released |
| 21:34 | cait | cant wait :) |
| 21:34 | chris | and on to 3.4 soon after |
| 21:35 | as soon as i can manage :) | |
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| 21:35 | cait | we will all try to help you :) |
| 21:35 | chris | the best help now, is fixing 3.2 blockers |
| 21:35 | so we can get it released :) | |
| 21:35 | * chris | looks at everyone including himself |
| 21:36 | jdavidb | I'm off to catch my bus. Y'all have a good evening. |
| 21:36 | cait | I wrote a lot of bug reports today... *ducks* |
| 21:36 | bye jdavidb | |
| 21:36 | jdavidb left #koha | |
| 21:37 | * jwagner | is going to go home too, and go to bed early.... |
| 21:37 | chris | sleep well |
| 21:37 | cait | sleep well |
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| 21:38 | cait | I love to have my own koha at work now, makes my life much easier (testing patches and perhaps writing some more patches soon :) ) |
| 21:39 | chris | :) |
| 21:42 | genji | how difficult is it to go from 3.0.5 to 3.2? |
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| 21:44 | chris | why do marketing ppl have to ruin it all |
| 21:44 | genji: it shouldnt be hard, if its a standard 3.0.5 | |
| 21:45 | cait | chris: dont know... |
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| 21:51 | jo | so with PTFS code now inthe wild isn't that fantastic news for Koha? |
| 21:51 | genji | wow.. PTFS released code! |
| 21:51 | jo | yep :) |
| 21:51 | genji | this is LEK? |
| 21:51 | cait | no |
| 21:51 | its not llek, but the features ptfs developed | |
| 21:51 | jo | imagine, not to far down the track, Koha code could once again incorporate all the development that other Koha libraries contracted through LL |
| 21:52 | that is a hige step for PTFS | |
| 21:52 | huge even :) | |
| 21:52 | and the best news for the Koha community | |
| 21:52 | chilts | that is great news! |
| 21:52 | genji | its released under GPLv3? |
| 21:53 | chris | gplv2 or later |
| 21:53 | jo | its the path to wards getting the fork incorporated back into the trunk again. |
| 21:53 | chris | just like the rest of koha is currently |
| 21:53 | jo | I'm really impressed with PTFS for doing that :) |
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| 21:56 | larsw | ptfs++ in that case |
| 21:58 | russ | kohdcon volunteers meeting will start in 2 mins |
| 21:58 | genji | gpl2. |
| 21:58 | chilts | so it looks like they are aiming for inclusion in 3.4 |
| 21:58 | genji | does gpl2 allow us to bring the code back into head, and make it gpl3? |
| 21:58 | * mason | waves |
| 21:59 | chris | its gplv2 or later .. the same as everything else is genji |
| 21:59 | so yes | |
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| 21:59 | mason | ive got to get a kapiti-train in 15 mins |
| 21:59 | irmalibraries joined #koha | |
| 21:59 | russ | just giving nicole a few more mins, then we will start |
| 22:00 | richard | cool |
| 22:00 | irmalibraries | Irma from CALYX - G'day all! |
| 22:00 | joetho | I just got an email from PTFS, mentioning 3.2. |
| 22:00 | Excellent news! | |
| 22:00 | mason | heya russ, long time - old buddy :) |
| 22:01 | russ | hiya mason |
| 22:01 | joetho | probably too late for 3.2, unless there are some very specific overlaps in development, which seems unlikely. |
| 22:01 | mason | i thought i had missed this meeting, happy i didnt |
| 22:01 | chris | joetho: bug fixes tho, its possible to pull them in |
| 22:01 | no new features tho | |
| 22:02 | joetho | But the best part is PTFS cooperating with the community. |
| 22:02 | irmalibraries | What is the "Excellent news"? pls |
| 22:02 | jo | hi guys. |
| 22:02 | joetho | I will quote a few key lines from the listserv email |
| 22:02 | irmalibraries | ho Jo |
| 22:03 | jo | I need to offer apologies for leaving early - 10.30 |
| 22:03 | training for 3.2 go live on 27 may | |
| 22:03 | chris | http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]de-hits-the-wild/ |
| 22:03 | russ | all good we will get started then |
| 22:03 | chris | (for irmalibraries |
| 22:03 | ) | |
| 22:03 | joetho | "LibLime has made available a tested, stable release of Koha for immediate download at http://koha.org/download. " |
| 22:03 | russ | KohaCon10 Volunteers meeting starting - sorry folks can we take over the channel for 30 mins or so |
| 22:04 | Who is here for the meeting? | |
| 22:04 | joetho | ...see main koha listserv for more |
| 22:04 | which I was going. | |
| 22:04 | * russ | - Russel Garlick, Catalyst |
| 22:04 | joetho | *wish |
| 22:04 | jo | or t ake kohacon to another channel? |
| 22:04 | russ | no main channel |
| 22:04 | it is logged | |
| 22:04 | * chilts | Andrew Chilton, Catalyst IT |
| 22:04 | joetho left #koha | |
| 22:04 | jo | Joann Ransom - HLT |
| 22:04 | chris | Chris Cormack, Catalyst IT |
| 22:05 | * larsw | Lars Wirzenius, Catalyst IT |
| 22:05 | russ | heh we could almost have this meeting at the water cooler then ;-) |
| 22:06 | irmalibraries | BobB has a tech issue but is sitting in with irmalibraries |
| 22:06 | russ | thanks all for turning up moving on |
| 22:06 | first up - apologies, i didnt get round to the minutes of the last meeting or doing much of late | |
| 22:07 | been flat out here and moving house etc etc | |
| 22:07 | jo | apology accepted :) |
| 22:07 | * mason | -> KohaAloha, NZ |
| 22:07 | mason | hi all |
| 22:07 | russ | but our 2 topics today are sponsorship and programme updates |
| 22:07 | so Sponsorship | |
| 22:08 | Catalyst have confirmed that they will sponsor the conference, and with that amount we have all the funds for the venuw | |
| 22:08 | s/venuw/venue | |
| 22:08 | jo | thank you for getting that commitment Russ. Trustees grateful :) |
| 22:09 | russ | so chris and i won't have to dip into our piggy banks :-) |
| 22:09 | irmalibraries | +1 catalyst! |
| 22:09 | jo | I do believe Calyx also contrubuted :) |
| 22:09 | russ | i am still waiting to hear back from a couple of other places, but all good there |
| 22:09 | mason | yay catalyst |
| 22:09 | chilts | catalyst ... and others :) |
| 22:10 | russ | yep thanks to Calyz and Xercode as well for coming on board since our last meeting |
| 22:10 | paul_p left #koha | |
| 22:10 | russ | fingers need more coffee |
| 22:10 | chris | we mustnt forget libriotech also |
| 22:11 | russ | i am not sure if there is much more to add on that topic |
| 22:11 | chris | who don't have a logo, but contributed all the way from norway even though they can't make it |
| 22:11 | (+bywater and biblibre) | |
| 22:11 | * chris | notes for the log |
| 22:11 | russ | :-) |
| 22:11 | jo | wow - can't we put their name up or something? |
| 22:12 | russ | i'll do a sponsors page sometime soon listing everyone |
| 22:12 | chris | they are up |
| 22:12 | jo | cool :) |
| 22:12 | chris | libriotech are on the frontpage |
| 22:12 | russ | their names are on the site |
| 22:12 | mason | sorry folks , im running very late for a train to kapiti |
| 22:12 | jo | cya Mason |
| 22:13 | russ | cya mason |
| 22:13 | mason | ill catch up with russ later, bye all |
| 22:13 | jo | I've got 15 mins left |
| 22:13 | irmalibraries | cheers Mason |
| 22:13 | richard | sorry had a phone call - Richard Anderson - Katipo |
| 22:13 | jo | (for the agenda: i have info about trip up to leving for mayoral reception / marae visit) |
| 22:13 | russ | ok so action point is to tidy up the sponsors logos and make a page |
| 22:13 | ok jo, nicole hasnt shown yet so lets jump to that | |
| 22:14 | jo | sorry forbeing pushy |
| 22:14 | russ | all good |
| 22:14 | chilts | russ: I've been helping Chris get the sponsorts logos up, so anymore to be added, send the logos my way :) |
| 22:14 | sponsors even | |
| 22:14 | jo | the bus cost for return transport wellington - levin is about $22 - $25 a head (based on 100 people) |
| 22:14 | chilts | though chris has been keeping on top of it I think |
| 22:14 | chris | re the programme i have been plugging stuff into the spreadsheet |
| 22:14 | jo | $720 a bus for 49 people ish |
| 22:15 | local Iwi have agreed to host us out at the marae for an evening meal, preceded by a formal welcome / powhiri | |
| 22:15 | russ | ok cool - so we should put some information up about that then |
| 22:15 | jo | this will be around $35 per head |
| 22:15 | the mayoral recption at council is all good - had a letter from the mayor | |
| 22:16 | russ | so $25 for bus + $35 for dinner = $65 all up for the trip? |
| 22:16 | jo | I think so, trying to get confoirmation that the recepotion will be free |
| 22:16 | irmalibraries | Discount for Au and US dollars, of course |
| 22:17 | jo | It will be cool - driving up the coast at say 4pm, nice scenery, see levin, marae visit |
| 22:17 | russ | jo - can you send me all the details via email please |
| 22:17 | and i will make a page on the site | |
| 22:17 | chris | up the coast at 4pm ... eek :) |
| 22:17 | jo | good opportunity for conference attendees |
| 22:17 | irmalibraries | Good value imho |
| 22:17 | jo | 3pm then :) |
| 22:17 | russ | jo - we will have to leave earlier than 4 |
| 22:17 | chris | yeah |
| 22:17 | russ | otherwise we wont get there until very late |
| 22:17 | chris | im looking at thursday for that |
| 22:17 | jo | Thursday is fine. |
| 22:17 | 3pm is fine | |
| 22:17 | chris | we can always stop at lindale for icecream |
| 22:17 | russ | chris: so after the conference itself? |
| 22:18 | chris | yeah |
| 22:18 | russ | cool |
| 22:18 | chris | monday, tues weds conference |
| 22:18 | jo | George is trying to find a sponsor for this so we can do it for free but is a bit stuck |
| 22:18 | chris | thurs day morning do your own thing, afternoon bus trip |
| 22:18 | russ | ok if that is the case, may be we will try and leave a little earlier than 3 even |
| 22:18 | chris | friday dev conference starts |
| 22:18 | i was think yeah 1 or 2 | |
| 22:19 | russ | good plan |
| 22:19 | jo | well we could change this around a bit then .... make a day of it |
| 22:19 | russ | it will take a while to get people sorted, and best to miss the traffic |
| 22:19 | chris | i was thinking an afternoon |
| 22:19 | jo | the bus costs will be dearer then |
| 22:19 | russ | right |
| 22:19 | chris | not the full day |
| 22:19 | leave the morning for shopping etc | |
| 22:19 | russ | meet MFC Carpark say 1:30 |
| 22:19 | and then go from there | |
| 22:19 | chris | that'd work |
| 22:20 | jo | lets advertsise at approx $70 per head TBC |
| 22:20 | russ | by the time everyone gets on board etc |
| 22:20 | jo: we need to have a confirmed price | |
| 22:20 | jo | on phone now |
| 22:20 | getting an updated price | |
| 22:20 | russ | and we may only get 1 bus |
| 22:20 | jo | ok |
| 22:20 | russ | some people may leave straight after the conference etc |
| 22:21 | jo | yep |
| 22:21 | chris | re the programme |
| 22:21 | russ | jo i know you have to leave soon |
| 22:21 | can you send me all the details of the trip and your proposed plan | |
| 22:21 | jo | yep |
| 22:21 | russ | and i'll make a page |
| 22:22 | over to chris for programme | |
| 22:22 | chris | we are doing pretty well |
| 22:22 | irmalibraries | Russ, BobB asks: how many people are registered for the conference now? |
| 22:22 | chris | we have monday and tuesday sorted |
| 22:22 | (if ppl who said they can speak ... really can) | |
| 22:22 | with about 4 more talks in the wings for wednesday, so we are lookgin good | |
| 22:23 | russ | irmalibraries: i havent checked recently - chris or chilts might know |
| 22:23 | chris | not a huge amount Bobb |
| 22:23 | chilts | that reminds me, I should go and register :) |
| 22:23 | heh | |
| 22:23 | russ | i think it is still early days in that regard |
| 22:23 | chris | yeah most nzers havent bothered |
| 22:23 | well its getting less early | |
| 22:23 | russ | chris that is great news about the programme |
| 22:23 | chris | only 5 months away |
| 22:24 | irmalibraries | Chris: +1 |
| 22:24 | russ | so nicole wont have to present 6 times :-) |
| 22:24 | chris | but nicole is sending out a reminder in the next newsletter |
| 22:24 | shes not even up once yet, neither am I :) | |
| 22:24 | russ | ok that has to change :-) |
| 22:24 | chris | i havent slotted in paul yet either |
| 22:25 | russ | right - well that is sounding really good |
| 22:25 | chris | if ppl email an address they use with google docs |
| 22:25 | ill give access to the program | |
| 22:25 | and list of potential papers | |
| 22:25 | russ | so should we call for a closing date now? |
| 22:25 | jo | ($65 pp including transport and marae visit 1.30 - 10pm confirmed ) |
| 22:25 | chris | and others can help :) |
| 22:25 | russ | i was thinking 1 june |
| 22:25 | jo | (and Mayoral reception) |
| 22:25 | chris | i think yeah, end of june for papers? |
| 22:26 | actually yeah mid june | |
| 22:26 | russ | or end june |
| 22:26 | chris | lets split the diff |
| 22:26 | russ | lol |
| 22:26 | jo | gotta go - cya |
| 22:26 | russ | thanks jo |
| 22:26 | irmalibraries | Bye Jo |
| 22:26 | chris | cos we need time to contact ppl and say, right you are up |
| 22:26 | etc | |
| 22:26 | russ | ok |
| 22:26 | chris | and then rearrange the programme |
| 22:26 | russ | so how about 15 June |
| 22:27 | chris | works for me |
| 22:27 | russ | and we can have our next meeting the day after |
| 22:27 | irmalibraries | 15 June +1 |
| 22:27 | russ | then we know what kind of posistion we are in - if we have enough speakers or not |
| 22:28 | rhcl is now known as rhcl_away | |
| 22:28 | chris | yep |
| 22:28 | russ | cool |
| 22:29 | * russ | makes a todo item to send out minutes today |
| 22:29 | russ | chris do you have anything else? |
| 22:29 | chris | nope |
| 22:29 | just htat ppl should start working their networks | |
| 22:29 | irmalibraries | What should we do to promote KohaCon and get ppl to register? |
| 22:29 | chris | id hate for a conference in nz to not have a decent presence of nzers and aussies |
| 22:30 | russ | irmalibraries: i think we get into high gear on that once we have a programme |
| 22:30 | chris | we are doing pretty good on the further afield people |
| 22:30 | russ | i know many people don't register until they can see what is on offer |
| 22:30 | so if get the programme sorted by end of June, and confirmed for beginning of July | |
| 22:30 | then we can start promoting who is talking etc | |
| 22:31 | chris | yep |
| 22:31 | nengard joined #koha | |
| 22:31 | russ | hi nicole :-) |
| 22:31 | nengard | did i miss the meeting?? |
| 22:31 | russ | almost :-) |
| 22:31 | nengard | dinner was longer than usual |
| 22:31 | sorry | |
| 22:31 | cait left #koha | |
| 22:31 | nengard | what do you all need me to do |
| 22:32 | russ | so to recap deadline for papers is 15 June (NZ time) |
| 22:32 | chris | yep |
| 22:32 | russ | next meeting is 16 June (NZ time) |
| 22:32 | aim to get the programme finalised by 1 July | |
| 22:32 | so we can publish it and start promoting who is speaking | |
| 22:32 | and start driving registrations | |
| 22:32 | nengard | I will be on the road on the 16th of June, but will get an update to you all before the meeting |
| 22:32 | chris | i have you penciled in at 4pm tuesday nicole, so start thinking on what you want to talk about |
| 22:33 | jo | back until 11 |
| 22:33 | nengard | I need to review the topics that have been chosen already and I'll fill in a gap |
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| 22:34 | jo | can someone point me towards the programme so far please |
| 22:34 | nengard | it's a google doc that i'll share with you |
| 22:34 | jo | hfields19gmail.com |
| 22:35 | irmalibraries | Chris Has Sue Lavery registered for a talk? |
| 22:35 | chris | not that ive seen |
| 22:35 | jo | I'd quite like PTFS to come down and present |
| 22:35 | irmalibraries | She is a librarian in Canberra and wishes to share her experience of Koha in a prison |
| 22:35 | jo | would be good for the cpommunity |
| 22:35 | russ | jo - i am about to send them an email re sponsorship |
| 22:35 | jo | cool. |
| 22:36 | irmalibraries | Please keep a spot - We will co-present |
| 22:36 | and register asap | |
| 22:36 | russ | irmalibraries: https://spreadsheets.google.co[…]m5ENXlaSnJnTFE6MA ;-) |
| 22:36 | chris | yep there is room |
| 22:37 | nengard | i'll put out a final call in the newsletter |
| 22:37 | i'll include the deadline | |
| 22:37 | irmalibraries | thanks |
| 22:37 | russ | nengard: thank you |
| 22:37 | chris | 2pm tuesday ive pencilled in |
| 22:37 | russ | nengard: what is your availbility like at the end of june? |
| 22:37 | nengard | that's ALA |
| 22:37 | russ | ah |
| 22:38 | so not good then | |
| 22:38 | nengard | 24th-30th |
| 22:38 | so i'll be available at nights EST | |
| 22:38 | if I'm not totally exhausted :) | |
| 22:38 | why? | |
| 22:38 | russ | chris seems to be doing a pretty good job with the programme |
| 22:38 | nengard | I know - thanks Chris!! |
| 22:38 | russ | just if we need to throw some ideas around etc |
| 22:38 | we'd like to get i published at the beginning of july | |
| 22:38 | nengard | chris usually finds me whenever i'm online :) |
| 22:39 | slef | dang, missed the meeting again :-/ |
| 22:39 | russ | yeah he is good like that |
| 22:39 | nengard | I'll be home on the 21st-23rd of June |
| 22:39 | russ | ok |
| 22:39 | * russ | makes a note of that |
| 22:39 | nengard | that's the time in between SLA & ALA |
| 22:39 | June is crazy | |
| 22:39 | irmalibraries | Good morning Slef |
| 22:39 | slef | evening irmalibraries! |
| 22:40 | chris | 9am on the 26th slef :) |
| 22:40 | slef | 9am for who and 26th of what? :) |
| 22:40 | * slef | scrollbacks |
| 22:40 | russ | i think he is talking about when you are presenting |
| 22:40 | :-) | |
| 22:40 | chris | :) |
| 22:40 | pencilled in anyway | |
| 22:40 | slef | cool... did I send in any title yet? |
| 22:41 | chris | yep |
| 22:41 | you are talking about cooperatives :) | |
| 22:41 | slef | great... I must fix my memory :) |
| 22:41 | chris | Koha: A cooperative view |
| 22:41 | nengard | hehe |
| 22:41 | slef | oh yeah, NZCA were meant to be getting back to me |
| 22:41 | nengard | slef no worries- i never remember what i'm talking about until the day before i have to talk |
| 22:42 | usually it's fine - unless it's a totally new topic - then i have to scramble to prepare | |
| 22:42 | slef | Ironically, I'm back at my PC working for co-operative.coop now, so Koha stuff was out of my mind :) |
| 22:42 | russ | sorry team i have to run |
| 22:42 | i think we are sorted now | |
| 22:43 | irmalibraries | Thanks Russ, good meeting today. |
| 22:43 | jo | Thanks Russ |
| 22:43 | thanks all | |
| 22:43 | russ | minutes will be out in a few hours or so |
| 22:44 | nengard | thanks! |
| 22:50 | chris bob wants to be penciled in too | |
| 22:50 | chris | which bob? |
| 22:51 | Bob Birchall? | |
| 22:51 | jo | http://www.ngamanu.co.nz/visit.php |
| 22:51 | we would have tons of time heading north to levin if we left at 1.30 | |
| 22:51 | c ould go nga manu | |
| 22:51 | chris | maybe :) |
| 22:52 | jo | chris: you'll bring Laurel and the bambini with you yes? |
| 22:52 | to levin i mean | |
| 22:52 | on bus trip | |
| 22:52 | chris | highly likely yes |
| 22:52 | someones gotta sing my waiata | |
| 22:52 | jo | well i think we should build in a wee detour to Nga manu then :) |
| 22:53 | oh yes - you will be our alpha male in the powhiri | |
| 22:53 | when we are welcomed on to the marae | |
| 22:53 | better brush up your te reo my friend :) | |
| 22:53 | chris | heh |
| 22:53 | jo | and we'll have to learn a waiata in the bus on the way |
| 22:54 | Te Hiira said he would help us with the powhiri - make sure we are left floundering :) | |
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| 22:59 | jo | $10 discounted rate for freedom walk at nga manu or $15 for Tui package: Visitors are welcomed and given a talk by a staff member. The talk covers aspects of Tuatara and Kiwi life cycles and unique features. This is followed by a walk to the eel feeding area and a presentation and feeding by your guide. |
| 22:59 | chris | id say lets leave that |
| 22:59 | jo | yep |
| 22:59 | chris | and run it by people at the conference |
| 22:59 | jo | its getting quite pricey aye |
| 22:59 | chris | i think taking it leisurely |
| 22:59 | with a stop for ice cream at lindale | |
| 22:59 | jo | ice cream at lindale |
| 22:59 | chris | is the low stress option |
| 23:00 | theres a lot of walking at nga manu | |
| 23:00 | jo | could also stop at otaki outlet stores on main drag |
| 23:00 | chris | we dont want to have ppl having to power walk |
| 23:00 | jo | no indeed |
| 23:00 | chris | if we get to levin to early |
| 23:00 | jo | that whats i'm thinking |
| 23:00 | chris | we can just go out to the beach for a look |
| 23:00 | jo | leaving wgtn at 1.30 - its 1,5 hrs to levin driving |
| 23:00 | of course we could :) | |
| 23:00 | chris | so 2 in a bus |
| 23:01 | with no accidents | |
| 23:01 | on that stupid piece of road | |
| 23:01 | jo | oh -and the road woprks. |
| 23:01 | chris | between pukerua and paekakariki |
| 23:01 | jo | right - thats settled :) |
| 23:05 | chris | ok enough playing with the programme, someone elses turn, back to bugfixing i go |
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| 23:09 | chris | jwagner: http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]de-hits-the-wild/ |
| 23:10 | jwagner | Just saw the link, haven't read it yet :-) |
| 23:10 | chris | :) |
| 23:11 | jwagner | Thought I'd poke my head back in, in case anyone had any more questions tonight. |
| 23:11 | chris | we were all busy with a kohacon planning meeting, but im sure some will come :) |
| 23:20 | ok time to make a coffee before meetings | |
| 23:20 | bbiab | |
| 23:20 | gmcharlt | chris: possible way to keep track of integration: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]HarleyIntegration |
| 23:22 | jwagner | gmcharlt, nice |
| 23:22 | I was telling chris earlier, this includes the 4-5 features that are parallel development. Some of them I think can integrate, but at least one is going to be a real bear. | |
| 23:24 | gmcharlt | ep |
| 23:24 | yep | |
| 23:24 | that's what the 'conflict' column is for | |
| 23:24 | like what I did with Bug4257 | |
| 23:24 | 4247, rather | |
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| 23:25 | gmcharlt | jwagner: if you wouldn't mind filling in descriptions on that wiki page as well as noting when things are already present in 3.2, that would save chris and I a lot of time |
| 23:25 | jwagner | The overall install package also includes some things that are already in head or sent. I'll have to check w/jdavidb in the morning; I _think_ the individual branches are only for the new stuff. |
| 23:25 | gmcharlt | since I think you'll be going through all of those bugs anyway |
| 23:25 | jwagner | Will do -- I have an internal list that's updated, and I would be referring to that when I update the bugzilla entries. |
| 23:26 | gmcharlt | there are at least 7 or 8 branches that include stuff already in head when I spotchecked |
| 23:26 | jwagner | He might have pushed everything, then. |
| 23:26 | gmcharlt | that's fine - those will be the easiest to straighten out |
| 23:28 | chris_n | is it me or is irc.katipo.co.nz timeing out in the states? |
| 23:28 | Nate | gnight all |
| 23:28 | Nate left #koha | |
| 23:28 | chris_n | three different clients time out for me when attempting to connect |
| 23:29 | jwagner | chris_n, I haven't had any trouble. |
| 23:29 | chris_n | rtt's are nearly 400ms |
| 23:30 | jwagner: how about trying this: http://widget.mibbit.com/?sett[…]z&channel=%23koha | |
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| 23:31 | mib_2kq0s1 | This is jwagner -- seems to be fine, chris_n. Must be you :-( |
| 23:31 | mib_2kq0s1 left #koha | |
| 23:31 | * chris_n | wonders what he's done to offend the irc server :'( |
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| 23:36 | chris_n | success |
| 23:37 | heya cn_perl_bot | |
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| 23:38 | chris | :) |
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