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| 01:09 | Ycros joined #koha | |
| 01:41 | Ycros | Hi, are there any good tools for bulk-editing MARC data? (either from the raw MARC XML format or the MARC format itself) |
| 01:41 | chris | there are a couple of freeware tools |
| 01:42 | which would be so much cooler if they were actually free software | |
| 01:42 | but there is MarcEdit | |
| 01:42 | and the Marc utils from ptfs | |
| 01:42 | both can do bulk, they both are developed for windows tho, and only slightly work on linux | |
| 01:43 | but if you have access to a windows machine | |
| 01:43 | http://people.oregonstate.edu/[…]it/html/index.php | |
| 01:43 | would probably be my pick | |
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| 01:46 | Ycros | chris: yeah, free software preferable. Hmm, okay will look into those, thanks |
| 01:47 | chris | if you do find a free software one, id love to know about it .. id love if either of the tools (marcedit or http://www.liblime.com/news/pt[…]tadata-converter) |
| 01:47 | would release under a free software license | |
| 01:48 | hi irmalibraries | |
| 01:51 | eythian | chris: any chance of finding friendly sponsors to get together to get one written? How hard could it be? ;) |
| 01:51 | Ycros | chris: I'm actually working with irmalibraries :) |
| 01:51 | chris | eythian: the thing is, the marc utilites is perl, using a lot of the same modules we use |
| 01:52 | its really frustrating | |
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| 01:52 | larsw | note to self: this is not vi, control-w does not delete a word here *sigh* |
| 01:52 | chris | heh |
| 01:52 | Ycros: ahh cool ;) | |
| 01:52 | chilts | heh |
| 01:53 | larsw | chris, so looks to me like most of the code is already out there, and is free, so only the actual app code to do bulk editing would be needed, to write a truly free app... just needs to find someone to sponsor the development, or willing to do it themselves |
| 01:53 | chris | yeah |
| 01:53 | Ycros | chris: just trying to work out an easy way of bulk editing/cleaning up data - either new stuff that's being imported or already inside koha |
| 01:53 | chris | i usually end up scripting |
| 01:53 | larsw | I know nothing about anything related to libraries, so couldn't even start to estimate, but I would assume it would be less than two weeks of full time work |
| 01:54 | chris | larsw: you are most likely right |
| 01:55 | chris_n | larsw: I saw a vi irc client script once |
| 01:55 | irmalibraries | hi all .. distracted for a minute ... |
| 01:55 | chris_n | iirc it did not work so swell |
| 01:56 | Ycros | chris: well scripting is the previous solution that one of the other developers irma was working with was using. As in, spitting things out in a csv/tsv format, then irma would edit that inside a spreadsheet app |
| 01:56 | chris | eek |
| 01:57 | chris_n | double-eek |
| 01:57 | chris | i was more meaning using MARC::Batch and MARC::Record etc |
| 01:57 | Ycros | yes, I gathered :) |
| 01:57 | chris | i can send you a script |
| 01:58 | that does a bulk update of isbns | |
| 01:58 | as an example | |
| 01:58 | * chris_n | was thining of loading lots of marc records into a spreadsheet and trying to stay sane |
| 01:58 | chris | and one that groups together marc records |
| 01:58 | using isbn | |
| 01:58 | (ie removes duplicates) | |
| 02:01 | if you pm an email address ill send it along it might help out | |
| 02:01 | Ycros | chris: is it possible to get a tabular view in MarcEdit somehow? |
| 02:01 | chris | havent used it in years |
| 02:01 | Ycros | ah :) |
| 02:01 | chris | so im not the best person to ask |
| 02:03 | larsw: yep, all the work would be UI | |
| 02:03 | Ycros | indeed |
| 02:05 | chilts | every time I've tried GTK2 in Perl, I got bogged down in creating the UI :( |
| 02:05 | one day though :) | |
| 02:08 | eythian | chilts: libopengl-perl |
| 02:09 | chilts | not sure they're the same thing (or were you just pointing it out?) |
| 02:10 | eythian | they're not the same thing, just hinting that an opengl editor would be neat :) |
| 02:10 | chris | patches accepted eythian :) |
| 02:11 | chilts | :) |
| 02:13 | Ycros | chilts: Design the UI using glade, and then just load up the glade file |
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| 02:14 | chilts | Ycros: past experience points to never using a UI editor ... but I guess I have to re-evaluate that one (it's been a long time since I started believing that) |
| 02:15 | Ycros | nooo, GUI design sohuld be done in a GUI :) |
| 02:15 | it's much easier, it's very tedious to do everything by hand | |
| 02:16 | larsw | glade is totally the way to go |
| 02:16 | (not that I have experience with perl+gtk, but I have some with python+gtk) | |
| 02:18 | Ycros | yeah, I'm also a Python guy :) |
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| 02:21 | chilts | yeah, you guys are probably right :) |
| 02:22 | * chilts | still has nightmares from a previous project |
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| 03:40 | Amit_G | hi chris |
| 03:40 | good morning #koha | |
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| 04:57 | kf | good morning #koha |
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| 05:02 | Amit_G | heya kf |
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| 05:03 | kf | hi Amit_G |
| 05:03 | hdl_laptop | hi |
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| 05:13 | kf | hi hdl_laptop |
| 05:13 | hdl_laptop | see you |
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| 05:20 | CGI649 | Hi |
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| 05:36 | Amit_G | Hi all, how to revert last commit via git |
| 06:17 | kf | which koha version added multi marc support? |
| 06:18 | I m not sure, but I think I have a mistake here in my presentation hm | |
| 06:19 | hm, ok, koha history.txt says 98 September 25 2002 Koha 1.3.0 released - Mulitple MARC flavours supported | |
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| 06:46 | Joandgeorge | Irma: are you about? |
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| 06:58 | paul_p | hello world |
| 06:59 | kf | good morning paul_p |
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| 07:05 | Amit_G | heya paul_p |
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| 07:27 | chris | kf: 1.3.0 was the first one that supported unimarc and marc21 .. but the 3 means its was a development release |
| 07:28 | so the first producton release was 2.0.0 | |
| 07:49 | kf | chris: so 2.0.0 is correct? |
| 07:49 | chris | for stable yes |
| 07:49 | 1.3.0 was the first development release | |
| 07:49 | for it | |
| 07:54 | kf | now im confused :) |
| 07:56 | chris | ok, so the second number in our numbers is how you tell if it is a stable or development release |
| 07:56 | even numbers = stable | |
| 07:56 | eg 3.0.x 3.2.x, 3.4.x etc | |
| 07:56 | orignally 2.0.0 was going to be 1.4.0 | |
| 07:57 | kf | ok |
| 07:57 | chris | but it was so major, we decided to call it 2.0.0 instead |
| 07:57 | kf | I changed it to 2.0 on my slide |
| 07:57 | chris | so leading up to 2.0.0 we did some 1.3.x releases |
| 07:57 | but they were for testing | |
| 07:57 | not to use in a real library | |
| 07:58 | kf | ah :) thx chris! |
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| 09:29 | chris | anyone have a minute to test something for me? |
| 09:38 | magnus | chris: ask, don't ask to ask ;-) |
| 09:40 | chris | heh |
| 09:40 | kf | magnus++ ;) |
| 09:40 | chris | http://opac.koha.workbuffer.or[…]earch.pl?idx=&q=a |
| 09:40 | vs | |
| 09:40 | http://opac.koha.workbuffer.or[…]earch.pl?idx=&q=a | |
| 09:41 | magnus | same results, different facets? |
| 09:42 | chris | the facets change if you reload |
| 09:42 | :82 is not using apache | |
| 09:42 | its nginx and fastcgi | |
| 09:42 | port 80 is apache | |
| 09:47 | magnus | :82 seemed slightly faster, but now i get "502 Bad Gateway" |
| 09:48 | chris | yup, ive busted it :) |
| 09:48 | cool slightly faster was what i was going for | |
| 09:49 | magnus | just my impression, 502 popped up just as i was trying to measure it with firebug |
| 09:49 | chris | slightly faster and 1/1000th the resources |
| 09:49 | magnus | heh, that's a nice number! |
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| 09:58 | chris | 502 gone away? |
| 10:00 | magnus | nope |
| 10:06 | chris | right, plan b |
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| 10:22 | * magnus | sneaks out to get a breath of fresh air |
| 10:22 | magnus is now known as magnus_away | |
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| 10:43 | kf | sorry, was at lunch |
| 10:48 | chris | right |
| 10:48 | http://opac.koha.workbuffer.or[…]earch.pl?idx=&q=a | |
| 10:48 | hopefully no more 502's | |
| 10:53 | magnus_away is now known as magnus | |
| 10:54 | magnus | sorry chris, i'm still getting 502'd |
| 11:08 | chris | dang it |
| 11:08 | ah well it mostly works, i just have to learn more about threading and sockets and fastcgi | |
| 11:08 | Amit_G: i see you just registered for kohacon .. are you coming? | |
| 11:08 | * chris | hopes so |
| 11:08 | Amit_G | chris: i m planning |
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| 11:15 | Amit_G | heya nicomo |
| 11:15 | nicomo | hi Amit_G |
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| 12:31 | kf | have you seen that? http://koha-community.org/arabic-koha/ |
| 12:31 | my presentation has too many slides for another screenshot :( I need more time! | |
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| 13:13 | chris_n | g'morning |
| 13:14 | kf | good morning chris_n |
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| 14:54 | * chris_n | thinks its awful quiet in here today |
| 14:54 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
| 14:54 | munin | chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 13.9�C (10:49 AM EDT on April 14, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:59 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
| 14:59 | munin | wizzyrea: Quote #45: "<CGI988> sekjal - you are a genious!!!!! asking me about the browser!!!! yes it's the #$%$#%$#ing IE was messing my cataloguing, oh I hate miscrosoft, the evil!" (added by gmcharlt at 02:00 PM, November 05, 2009) |
| 14:59 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 15:06 | chris_n | it's M$ attempt to "govern" the rest of the software world through force that is so nasty |
| 15:07 | if they want their unique implementations and closed source, they can have it; just as long as they keep it to themselves :) | |
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| 16:38 | len | hello everyone, aparently migrating to zebra has been more complicated than expected, especially for the authorities. Now when I search an authority I always see 0 biblios like the authority is not used. In the zebra log there is a strange error: Search biblios ERROR 114 1 1+0 RPN @attrset Bib-1 @attr "1=Koha-Auth-Number" 50. Any ideeas? |
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| 16:45 | Nouman | hi |
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| 17:01 | len | aparently for each authority found, another query @attrset Bib-1 @attr "1=Koha-Auth-Number" id_authority is done |
| 17:02 | with returns an error 114 | |
| 17:06 | wizzyrea | len: http://koha-community.org/docu[…]faq/searching/#18 all of these things are ok? |
| 17:08 | len | yes |
| 17:08 | I've commented the entry in crontab and executed by hand the rebuild to check for errors | |
| 17:09 | there is none, except the warn related to Heading-Main and Any | |
| 17:09 | and yes, as koha user, checked also permissions on the zebradb dirs | |
| 17:13 | the problem seems similar to the one described at the end of this bug: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1906 | |
| 17:13 | munin | 04Bug 1906: normal, P3, ---, jmfliblime.com, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Zebra Authority search fails with a new (from git) Koha installation |
| 17:14 | len | but there is no solution, and the bug is old and resolved |
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| 17:35 | len | can the problem be in zebra version? |
| 17:36 | I have idzebra-2.0.34 | |
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| 18:19 | chris_n | nice: http://badir.maktabat-online.net/ |
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| 18:28 | owen | Wow that's kinda making my brain hurt |
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| 18:39 | wizzyrea | oh man, that's great... but yea, wow brain hurt |
| 18:40 | * wizzyrea | is in backwards world |
| 18:41 | wizzyrea | backwards for me anyway |
| 18:41 | normal for some | |
| 18:43 | chris_n | yeah... they did a spectacular job imho |
| 18:46 | wizzyrea | it looks really great, and it all works which is even better :D |
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| 18:48 | fredericd | hi |
| 18:49 | * chris_n | notices a watch-dog script he wrote has begun to spam his inbox :-P |
| 18:49 | chris_n | hi fredericd |
| 18:56 | chris | morning |
| 18:59 | magnus_away is now known as magnus | |
| 19:00 | magnus | morning chris |
| 19:04 | chris_n | g'morning chris |
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| 19:08 | chris_n | between js, perl, catalyst, dbic, and php I'm about to go stark, raving mad |
| 19:13 | len | even after installing last version of zebra same error |
| 19:13 | lost ... | |
| 19:15 | chris_n | len: I'm not familiar with authorities as we don't use them presently, but you might want to post to the list |
| 19:16 | len | is there a way not to use them? |
| 19:17 | most of the biblios are manualy entered (not using z3950) | |
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| 19:17 | len | and the process of entering an authority before each biblio is a bit long |
| 19:17 | chris | there certainly is len |
| 19:17 | what you need to do is go to the marc frameworks | |
| 19:18 | (under administration) | |
| 19:18 | len | ok |
| 19:19 | chris | http://koha-community.org/docu[…]?ch=x3614#AEN3617 |
| 19:19 | scroll down to 1.4.1.3 | |
| 19:19 | wizzyrea | oki |
| 19:19 | chris | so what you do is find the subfiled you want to turn the authorities off on |
| 19:20 | say 100a | |
| 19:20 | and switch the thesaurus to blank (instead of what its set to now) | |
| 19:23 | len | yes, the problem is that now there will be no more check for typos |
| 19:23 | I tried using BibliosAddAuthority to true and the effect was that a lot of duplicated authors are found | |
| 19:26 | but thank you anyway, it's always good to know ;) | |
| 19:27 | chris | :) |
| 19:28 | i think the way to use them best | |
| 19:28 | is to load all the authorities at the start | |
| 19:28 | from some big authorities file | |
| 19:30 | len | I agree with you, but this is not the case here :( |
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| 19:41 | chris_n | wb brendan |
| 19:41 | brendan | :) |
| 19:45 | magnus | g'night #koha |
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| 20:02 | cait | good night #koha |
| 20:02 | :) | |
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| 20:11 | owen | good night #koha |
| 20:12 | :) | |
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| 20:43 | len | good night |
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| 22:17 | chris | hmm my server at home is having issues |
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| 22:36 | larsw | does Koha keep a changelog of any sort in the source tree? |
| 23:57 | chris | it used to back in the days of cvs |
| 23:58 | but not anymore i dont think | |
| 23:59 | larsw | yeah, I can't find one |
| 23:59 | release notes (NEWS files) might be a good idea |
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