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| 00:15 | redmr | i did a controlled fresh install of 3.2 alpha and upon my 1st web installer page, i got an error Yaml.pm not found. Is that a preqreq? I only installed the ...yaml-syck module as listed in Makefile.PL | 
| 00:16 | either way i added the Yaml module and the installer begins fine. | |
| 00:17 | I'm sure everyone here is enjoying National Library Week | |
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| 01:22 | chris | http://library-people.com/ | 
| 01:26 | chilts | nice site, it's simple but it works :) | 
| 01:26 | the words take on more meaning | |
| 01:26 | chris | "You can see why we choose Koha to manage your library because it is the best." | 
| 01:28 | eythian | Needs a comma :) | 
| 01:28 | or a semicolon | |
| 01:29 | gmcharlt | dunno, the ambiguity could flatter Koha *and* the library contemplating Koha | 
| 01:30 | eythian | gmcharlt: ooh, good point. | 
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| 02:35 | wajasu | i'm staging records into 3.2alpha. When you hit the manage stage records link, and it gives a page with a table with all the records imported, thats a bit too much if you stage 16000 records. | 
| 02:35 | it used to only show 100 or so at a time. | |
| 02:36 | show that be left that way? | |
| 03:37 | larsw | does Koha still insist on the sax parser to be XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser? I am following INSTALL.debian-lenny, whcih tells me to run misc/sax_parser_print.pl, which tells me I have XML::SAX::Expat instead | 
| 03:37 | this is from a fairly recent git version | |
| 03:38 | on Debian squeeze | |
| 03:38 | chris | afaik, the MARC::File::XML module we use depends on LibXML | 
| 03:38 | ill check that though | |
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| 05:10 | brendan | heya Amit_G | 
| 05:11 | Amit_G | hi brendan | 
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| 06:58 | kf | good morning #koha | 
| 06:58 | chris: around? | |
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| 07:26 | Amit_G | heya kf | 
| 07:29 | kf | hi Amit | 
| 07:48 | chris | am now kf | 
| 07:48 | whats up? | |
| 07:48 | kf | new translation problems ( | 
| 07:48 | I will add a screenshot to the bug | |
| 07:49 | chris | righto | 
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| 08:32 | magnus | g'day #koha | 
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| 12:18 | jwagner | G'morning all.... | 
| 12:19 | chris | hi jwagner | 
| 12:21 | jwagner | chris, aren't you up awfully late? | 
| 12:21 | (and hi) | |
| 12:23 | magnus | or awfully early... | 
| 12:23 | chris | its not too bad | 
| 12:24 | 12.30am | |
| 12:24 | will be going to sleep soon | |
| 12:25 | * jwagner | could use a nap and I've only been at work for an hour.... | 
| 12:25 | gmcharlt | good morning | 
| 12:26 | jwagner | morning, gmcharlt | 
| 12:31 | chris | i have an annoying cough that is keeping me awake | 
| 12:32 | * jwagner | sends chris tea, sympathy, and cough drops | 
| 12:33 | chris_n | g'morning all | 
| 12:34 | owen | 12.30am is about when my boy was up for the 4th time... *yawn* | 
| 12:34 | He sleeps with a flashlight *and* a sword and still won't get a drink of water by himself. | |
| 12:35 | * owen | thinks Maybe a bigger sword... | 
| 12:35 | chris_n | hehe | 
| 12:36 | we woke up the other night to the sound of what we thought was a nest of baby mice... it turned out to be a nest of baby rabbits directly under the porch | |
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| 13:07 | kf | hi #koha | 
| 13:08 | wajasu | morning | 
| 13:08 | jwagner | Guten tag, kf | 
| 13:09 | kf | hi jwagner | 
| 13:09 | chris_n | heya kf | 
| 13:09 | kf | heya chris_n | 
| 13:11 | chris_n: I have a question about use of <fine></fine> in html notices, I tested with EUR and the result was not really readable (strange characters instead of EUR or €) | |
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| 13:11 | DRUlm | Hell-o | 
| 13:14 | jdavidb | hi, kf. :) | 
| 13:14 | mornin', DRUlm. :) | |
| 13:14 | @quote random | |
| 13:14 | munin | jdavidb: Quote #36: "<pianohacker> first, burn the perl book" (added by jdavidb at 03:12 PM, September 25, 2009) | 
| 13:16 | kf | hi jdavid :) | 
| 13:18 | DRUlm | Hey, what is the new, I hear all of the dudes carry it? | 
| 13:18 | (I mean "news" not new) | |
| 13:18 | (David Bowie reference) | |
| 13:19 | * jdavidb | watched a much-younger-than-now Bowie in _Labyrinth_ a couple of days ago. | 
| 13:20 | DRUlm | Yeah, pretty good. Any news in Koha-land? | 
| 13:20 | chris_n | kf: I'll setup and test it in a bit... it worked fine with several symbols on my dev machine when I did that work | 
| 13:20 | @seen pianohacker | |
| 13:20 | munin | chris_n: pianohacker was last seen in #koha 3 weeks, 5 days, 18 hours, 10 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <pianohacker> that's all :) | 
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| 13:24 | kf | chris_n: no problem, I just wondered if I my configuration was wrong. | 
| 13:39 | chris_n | kf: here's what it looks like from here | 
| 13:39 | The following item(s) is/are currently overdue and are accruing fines: | |
| 13:39 | "A Short History of Western Civilization" by Harrison, John B, 909.09821 H2451, Barcode: JL08030003 Current fine: �2,25 | |
| 13:39 | Thank-you for your prompt attention to this matter. | |
| 13:39 | so I'd guess its something local | |
| 13:41 | magnus is now known as magnus_away | |
| 13:41 | kf | chris_n: oh, how does your entry in notices look likeß | 
| 13:42 | chris_n: I got â¬0,00 | |
| 13:42 | chris_n | The following item(s) is/are currently overdue and are accruing fines: | 
| 13:42 | <item>"<<biblio.title>>" by <<biblio.author>>, <<items.itemcallnumber>>, Barcode: <<items.barcode>> Current fine: <fine>EUR</fine></item> | |
| 13:42 | Thank-you for your prompt attention to this matter. | |
| 13:43 | kf | <item><<biblio.title>> / <<biblio.author>>, <<items.itemcallnumber>>, Barcode: <<items.barcode>> Gebühr: <fine>EUR</fine></item> | 
| 13:43 | chris_n | looks ok | 
| 13:44 | kf | I got the same result for html notices (print) and email | 
| 13:44 | this is a weird week, I should not be surprised | |
| 13:45 | chris_n | hmm... in the message_queue table I have this: Current fine: �2,25 | 
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| 13:46 | chris_n | but it appears fine in the recipient's email client | 
| 13:46 | hilongo | Hello #Koha :) | 
| 13:46 | How's all that magic going? | |
| 13:47 | kf | chris_n: ok, perhaps our cpan module is too old or something? | 
| 13:49 | chris_n | kf: I don't think so, I require 1.28 in the 'use' | 
| 13:49 | so it would throw and error if you had a different version | |
| 13:50 | kf | chris_n: I checked the message_queue table (using the report module) and there its ⬠too | 
| 13:51 | chris_n | checking with a different mysql client displays the EUR symbol correctly | 
| 13:52 | I'd imagine its a utf8 issue, but that's a guess | |
| 13:52 | I wonder if anyone else who is using the overdue notice and running code from HEAD or alpha could test? | |
| 13:53 | kf | chris_n: our installation is near to current head, missing only the last patches | 
| 13:55 | chris_n | owen: about? | 
| 13:55 | owen | Yes | 
| 13:55 | chris_n | are you setup to test the overdue notices with the currency formatting? | 
| 13:56 | * chris_n | is trying to verify kf 's issue | 
| 13:57 | owen | Unfortunately no | 
| 14:00 | kf | chris_n: thanks :) | 
| 14:00 | jwagner | paul_p, online? | 
| 14:00 | paul_p | jwagner, yes I do | 
| 14:01 | chris_n | kf: I'll see if I can get someone else to verify the status of this and get back to you | 
| 14:03 | kf | chris_n: thx for your help. I really like that feature, the library will be very happy too. | 
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| 14:11 | len | hello everybody | 
| 14:13 | I have a follow up question regarding yesterday talk about nozebra to zebra migration | |
| 14:15 | I migrated to zebra, done a rebuild_zebra, fixed authorities search as described here: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3072 | |
| 14:15 | munin | 04Bug 3072: major, P5, ---, jmf liblime.com, NEW, 'Heading-Main' authority-index breaks authority searching in STABLE | 
| 14:16 | len | and I have added rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z in crontab | 
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| 14:16 | len | however new entries are not indexed and cannot be found, I have to reindex everything each time with rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a | 
| 14:17 | any ideeas? | |
| 14:28 | chris_n | len: you need to setup a cron job to run rebuild_zebra | 
| 14:29 | hold on and I'll post an example | |
| 14:29 | len | oui | 
| 14:29 | sorry | |
| 14:29 | yes, I've setup already one | |
| 14:29 | */10 * * * * /usr/share/koha304/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a >/dev/null | |
| 14:30 | chris_n | /home/koha/koha.prod/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -z | 
| 14:30 | len | the problem is that I've tried */10 * * * * /usr/share/koha304/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z >/dev/null as in the doc and it does not work | 
| 14:30 | I've tried by hand and with -z nothing is reindexed | |
| 14:31 | chris_n | just to check: this is being run as your kohauser? | 
| 14:31 | len | yes | 
| 14:31 | chris_n | run this rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -z -v | 
| 14:31 | len | running with -v | 
| 14:31 | gives me | |
| 14:32 | Zebra configuration information | |
| 14:32 | ================================ | |
| 14:32 | Zebra biblio directory = /usr/share/koha304/var/lib/zebradb/biblios | |
| 14:32 | Zebra authorities directory = /usr/share/koha304/var/lib/zebradb/authorities | |
| 14:32 | Koha directory = /usr/share/koha304/intranet/cgi-bin | |
| 14:32 | BIBLIONUMBER in : 999$c | |
| 14:32 | BIBLIOITEMNUMBER in : 999$d | |
| 14:32 | ================================ | |
| 14:32 | ==================== | |
| 14:32 | exporting authority | |
| 14:32 | ==================== | |
| 14:32 | Records exported: 0 | |
| 14:32 | Records exported: 0 | |
| 14:32 | ==================== | |
| 14:32 | REINDEXING zebra | |
| 14:32 | ==================== | |
| 14:32 | ==================== | |
| 14:32 | exporting biblio | |
| 14:32 | ==================== | |
| 14:32 | Records exported: 0 | |
| 14:32 | Records exported: 0 | |
| 14:32 | ==================== | |
| 14:32 | REINDEXING zebra | |
| 14:32 | ==================== | |
| 14:32 | ==================== | |
| 14:32 | CLEANING | |
| 14:33 | ==================== | |
| 14:33 | it seems no changes are detected | |
| 14:33 | imp | baaah, use pastebin please | 
| 14:33 | chris_n | len: yeah, using paste.workbuffer.org works better :) | 
| 14:34 | * chris_n | regrets the fact that we have no ops and so the topic line is not set | 
| 14:34 | len | sorry, here it is: http://paste.workbuffer.org/3 | 
| 14:34 | chris_n | len: so what do koha-zebradaemon.log and koha-zebradaemon-output.log say? | 
| 14:34 | and koha-zebradaemon.err | |
| 14:36 | @seen si | |
| 14:36 | munin | chris_n: si was last seen in #koha 9 weeks, 0 days, 6 hours, 26 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <si> have a good meeting, all | 
| 14:37 | len | error log is empty | 
| 14:38 | in log there is a lot of Index 'Heading-Main' not found in attset(s) | |
| 14:39 | in fact only this | |
| 14:40 | * chris_n | had this very problem, but cannot remember what fixed it to save his life :P | 
| 14:41 | chris_n | I ran with -r for a long time | 
| 14:41 | len | I will check further, thank you anyway ;) | 
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| 14:50 | chris_n | len: there are others who are real zebra gurus, so maybe a post to the list will generate a solution | 
| 14:51 | len | maybe I will find a solution, I am always an optimiste ;) | 
| 14:57 | hilongo | len: you have set up PERL5LIB and KOHACONF variables correctly? | 
| 14:57 | len | yes | 
| 14:57 | if I don't set them the script does not work at all | |
| 14:59 | hilongo | and the owner of /var/lib/zebradb/bilios is the same as you are running rebuildzebra? | 
| 15:00 | len | yes, I tested the permissions for /var/run/zebradb, /var/lock/zebradb and /var/lib/zebradb | 
| 15:02 | * hilongo | is out of ideas ..... for now | 
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| 15:05 | hilongo | oh!... and zebraserver is running? if you do something like ps aux|grep zebra | 
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| 15:06 | len | yes: http://paste.workbuffer.org/4 | 
| 15:09 | hilongo | yep ... loks exactly like mine :P ... but try ps aux|grep zebra.. just for the fun of seeing all the parameters | 
| 15:13 | len | http://paste.workbuffer.org/5 | 
| 15:14 | chris_n | len: don't run zebraqueue daemon | 
| 15:14 | it is deprecated | |
| 15:15 | len | what should I run? | 
| 15:15 | chris_n | just zebra | 
| 15:15 | the rebuild_zebra.pl cronjob replaces the zebraqueue daemon | |
| 15:15 | len | I was under the impression koha uses the zebraqueue to pass queries to zebra | 
| 15:16 | chris_n | nope, zebraqueue was intended to index entries on the fly | 
| 15:18 | but it does not work well | |
| 15:18 | hence the change to rebuild_zebra.pl as a cronjob | |
| 15:19 | len | maybe there is a conflict, I will try this | 
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| 15:32 | kf | hm working on my presentation | 
| 15:33 | wizzyrea | chris_n wasn't there some kind of memory leak in zebraqueue? | 
| 15:33 | kf | there was a nice term about how the community works with different vendors involved | 
| 15:33 | wizzyrea | coopetition? | 
| 15:34 | kf | wizzyrea+++ | 
| 15:34 | * wizzyrea | first heard it from gmcharlt | 
| 15:34 | wizzyrea | >.> | 
| 15:34 | kf | thank you! | 
| 15:34 | wizzyrea | :D | 
| 15:34 | jwagner | kf, not directly relevant to your hold notice problem, but I spotted a problem with the print notice version now in head. See Bug 4386 | 
| 15:34 | kf | is there a quote or something? | 
| 15:34 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4386 major, P2, ---, henridamien koha-fr.org, NEW, New print notice feature not obeying email address for hold notices | 
| 15:34 | wizzyrea | I think it's in wikipedia, actually. It's kind of a "real" thign | 
| 15:34 | kf | jwagner: thx! I did not test print hold notices yet, but will remember! | 
| 15:35 | wizzyrea | yikes, that's a crazy bug | 
| 15:35 | jwagner | Not sure where the problem crept in. We'll work on it when we get a chance, but hdl may get there quicker. He knows what changes he made in the code. | 
| 15:35 | chris_n | jwagner: can you confirm kf's currency problem? | 
| 15:35 | jwagner | No, haven't tested for that, and don't have the time right now. | 
| 15:36 | I was actually looking at something different (holds-related) in current head, & ran into this one. | |
| 15:36 | kf | not having time sounds really familiar :( | 
| 15:37 | * jwagner | wishes the cloning module would get finished :-( | 
| 15:44 | len | chris_n: just to say thank you. I stopped the zebraqueue, restarted zebra and it seems to work with rebuild_zebra -a -b -z | 
| 15:44 | chris_n | len: great! | 
| 15:45 | the docs need a bit of updating which will probably happen before the 3.2 stable release | |
| 15:48 | wizzyrea | ooh, wonder how often people run into that one | 
| 15:48 | maybe it should be a faq | |
| 15:48 | there are lots of common faq's about zebra | |
| 15:49 | len | unfortunatelly you never know which one applies to your version | 
| 15:50 | but I think 3 is much better than 2. I had a lot of problems with z3950 search in 2 | |
| 15:50 | and now everything works, even encoding problems are solved | |
| 15:57 | chris_n | wizzyrea: I'm guessing that zebraqueue daemon will disappear from 3.2 | 
| 15:57 | maybe gmcharlt has a word on that | |
| 15:58 | but it still might be good to add to the list | |
| 15:58 | gmcharlt | chris_n: didn't have any particular plans on doing so, but I'll push a patch to move it out of the way | 
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| 16:08 | kf | ok, will finish my slides tomorrow - by äkoha! | 
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| 16:21 | jwagner | Anybody online who works with the installer language directories? | 
| 16:22 | The uk-UA mandatory directory doesn't have a sample_notices.sql file, but the other four language directories do. | |
| 16:22 | Don't know if that's a problem. | |
| 16:22 | gmcharlt | jwagner: it can be a little inconsisent from language to language | 
| 16:22 | typically we'd rely on whoever is maintining the language to keep it up to date | |
| 16:22 | jwagner | So it's OK to submit a patch without including that one? | 
| 16:23 | gmcharlt | but if you're feeling helpful and want to submit a patch to ensure that there aren't bits missing, that's fine | 
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| 17:49 | jwagner | gmcharlt, see patch for Bug 4377 -- I haven't tried creating a notice file before, so please check it carefully. | 
| 17:49 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4377 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt gmail.com, NEW, cannot confirm hold due to missing letter | 
| 17:49 | gmcharlt | jwagner: ok | 
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| 18:40 | cait | hi all | 
| 18:43 | wizzyrea | hey cait | 
| 18:43 | cait | hi wizzyrea | 
| 18:44 | wizzyrea | get your preso done? | 
| 18:46 | jdavidb | Hi, cait. :) | 
| 18:49 | brendan | :D | 
| 18:54 | * jdavidb | waves to brendan | 
| 18:54 | cait | wizzyrea: not finished yet, presentation is on thursday | 
| 19:09 | brendan | @wunder 93117 | 
| 19:09 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in ASOS_HFM SANTA BARBARA, CA, Santa Barbara, California is 13.9�C (11:45 AM PDT on April 13, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Rising). | 
| 19:11 | jwagner | @quote random | 
| 19:11 | munin | jwagner: Quote #9: "pianohacker ponders drumstick->ear as a method of food acquisition...We haven't gone to this good mexican restaurant in a while..." (added by wizzyrea at 04:23 PM, June 19, 2009) | 
| 19:14 | owen | I think munin gives us quotes from pianohacker because it's been so long since we've seen him in person | 
| 19:17 | jwagner | See, munin has a personality too! I've long thought so. | 
| 19:23 | chris | morning | 
| 19:24 | owen | good morning chris | 
| 19:25 | chris | hiya owen | 
| 19:25 | wizzyrea | ah, it's chris and owen, the people with the hilarious kids | 
| 19:25 | all mine does is talk about shopping with blue whales | |
| 19:25 | chris | thats pretty hilarious | 
| 19:25 | brendan | morning | 
| 19:26 | chris_n | heya chris | 
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| 19:40 | chris | ok, bus time | 
| 19:41 | bbl | |
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| 19:49 | owen | ok, home time | 
| 19:49 | bbt [tomorrow] | |
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| 20:01 | hdl_laptop | hi | 
| 20:01 | brendan | hi hdl_laptop | 
| 20:02 | chris_n | howdy hdl_laptop | 
| 20:02 | cait | hi hdl_laptop | 
| 20:02 | hdl_laptop | good how are you ? | 
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| 20:13 | wizzyrea | git.koha.org is our equivalent to this right? http://core.trac.wordpress.org/timeline | 
| 20:13 | jransom | Koha Subcommittee members: who would be available for an irc meeting in 45 mins at 9am NZ time? | 
| 20:13 | wizzyrea | bc I think it's a neat idea to highlight how active your project is by linking to the log of patches accepted :P | 
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| 20:14 | jransom | If anan alert subcmmittee members of this message I would appreciate that: Galen, Henri, Rachel, Chris, Geoorge, me | 
| 20:15 | Driving to work now but will be online by 9am | |
| 20:15 | gmcharlt | jransom: pong, and agreed re meeting time | 
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| 20:19 | hdl_laptop | k | 
| 20:29 | chris_n | wizzyrea: that would be a nice addition | 
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| 20:32 | richard | hi | 
| 20:33 | chris_n | hey richard | 
| 20:34 | chris | morning | 
| 20:34 | richard | hi chris_n and chris | 
| 20:35 | chris: got some playmates for your dogs - http://katipo.co.nz/~richard/kelly-jack.jpg | |
| 20:35 | the dog on the left is my partner's dog and i picked up the chap on the right on saturday | |
| 20:35 | chris | cute! | 
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| 20:42 | chris | richard: im sure my dogs will bark like mental retards whenever they walk past :) | 
| 20:43 | richard | :) | 
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| 20:46 | chris_n | hi Jo | 
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| 20:54 | Jo | hi Chris | 
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