IRC log for #koha, 2010-04-05

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00:01 BobB Hi Mason, are you about?
01:48 brendan @wunder 93117
01:48 munin brendan: The current temperature in ASOS_HFM SANTA BARBARA, CA, Santa Barbara, California is 12.2�C (6:30 PM PDT on April 04, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Falling).
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03:39 Amit_G hi all
03:39 heya brendan
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08:12 abdullatef hi there
08:13 i need support here
08:14 my friend has installed Koha on debian
08:14 but unfortunately
08:14 the search is not working
08:16 hdl_laptop hi abdullatef
08:16 Seems like it is a zebra problem
08:16 Is the zebra server launched ?
08:16 abdullatef oh
08:17 hdl_laptop look at INSTALL.debian
08:17 abdullatef i'm not sure
08:17 ok i'll try to look at it
08:18 actually, out IT staff has installed it for us
08:19 i'll check with him
08:20 i'm currently refering this manual http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.0
08:21 is it mentioned on the manual?
08:23 hdl_laptop in the source your ITstaff downloaded, it should be in a text file INSTALL.debian
08:23 abdullatef ok
08:23 thank you very much
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11:39 hdl_laptop hi jwagner
11:39 hi cait
11:39 hi america
11:39 jwagner Bonjour hdl_laptop
11:39 cait hi hdl_laptop, jwagner and jdavidb
11:40 jdavidb hi, cait!  :D
11:40 jwagner Guten tag, cait
11:40 hdl_laptop howdy ?
11:40 cait jdavidb: trying to restart zebrasrv by crontab like you showed in chat some days ago :)
11:42 jdavidb It's a handy way to do it.  In case of a reboot, or (rarely) zebra just falling over on its' own, that little line cranks it right back up again.
11:42 cait yes, very handy.. if I get it to work :)
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12:05 cait hah, it works :)
12:05 jdavidb :)
12:07 chris_n g'morning
12:08 jdavidb hi, chris_n. :)
12:09 * chris_n watched Discovery streak up the East Coast through binoculars early this morning
12:09 chris_n very cool
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12:16 hdl_laptop cait jdavidb one could also want to setup monit as a handy way to monitor zebra crashes.
12:17 and relaunch zebra service
12:18 cait hdl_laptop: thx hdl_laptop
12:18 jdavidb hdl_laptop: That'd work, too.  When I thought this cron trick up, I needed something right quick to deal with reboots, and that came to mind.
12:19 cait im still a linux newbie - just glad everything is working now :)
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12:42 hdl_laptop owen: around ?
12:43 owen Present!
12:43 hdl_laptop hi.
12:43 Have you worked on opac-basket and IE integration lately
12:43 I think so.
12:43 But I see no patches on master.
12:44 owen IE integration?
12:44 hdl_laptop Internet Explorer.
12:44 owen Yes, but is there a particular problem you're referring to?
12:44 hdl_laptop We have some problems with opac-basket and Internet explorer.
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12:45 owen hdl_laptop: I don't think I have any pending patches that addressed IE issues directly. I'd be happy to take a look. Is there a bug report for it?
12:45 hdl_laptop http://translate.google.com/#fr|en|Sous%20IE7%20et%208%2C%20les%20paniers%20n​e%20fonctionnent%20pas%20%C3%A0%20l%27opac%20%​3A%0A*%20on%20peut%20ajouter%20une%20et%20une%​20seule%20r%C3%A9f%C3%A9rence%2C%20il%20refuse​%20d%27ajouter%20les%20suivantes%0A*%20quand%2​0on%20veut%20aller%20voir%20le%20contenu%2C%20​il%20r%C3%A9pond%20%3A%20panier%20vide%2C%20m%​C3%AAme%20qd%20on%20a%20mis%20une%20notice
12:55 owen hdl_laptop: On the first problem, does that refer to adding items to the cart from the search results page?
12:56 hdl_laptop yes
12:57 those might be old. But I don't have seen them adressed on master branch
12:58 owen That one works fine for me in Internet Explorer 8
12:58 And I can open the cart just fine. It shows everything I added.
13:00 hdl_laptop thanks for testing anyway
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14:22 ebegin Hi all!
14:27 @wunder montreal, quebec
14:27 munin ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is 11.0�C (10:00 AM EDT on April 05, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Falling).
14:27 owen Hi ebegin
14:27 cait hi ebegin
14:28 @wunder Konstanz
14:28 munin cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 9.0�C (4:00 PM CEST on April 05, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.38 in 1029 hPa (Falling).
14:28 ebegin Guten tag cait!
14:28 Hi Owen!
14:28 Bonjour hdl_laptop!
14:32 about Bug 4208
14:32
14:32 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4208 critical, P1, ---, chris@bigballofwax.co.nz, NEW, Many submit buttons are not translatable in 3.2
14:33 ebegin any idea how to bring the buttons' label translation back?
14:33 cait there is a patch and I think chris already updated po files
14:33 I wrote the bug report
14:34 owen No patch attached to the bug
14:35 cait http://spedr.com/2lwnl
14:35 this is the patch, I think its not in head and not sure its what chris did
14:36 ebegin ok, danke cait!
14:36 owen it makes it hard to trace the status of bugs if submitted patches do not reference the bug number and patches are not attached to the bug report
14:36 cait but I can find "renew all" and others in pootle now
14:37 owen, you are right. I told chris I would test the po-files but had no chance before the easter holidays.
14:43 ebegin Actually, that patch seems to be submitted by hdl.
14:45 cait yes, chris just told me he had updated the po-files - dont know what he did. I just thought it might be that patch.
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14:49 wizzyrea chris_n I"m so jealous, I always wanted to watch a shuttle launch
14:49 and now I'm running out of chances
14:50 chris_n wizzyrea: we had run out too, except a reschedule caused this one to fall in the twilight zone
14:51 it was very nice; we saw ISS on the pass before launch and then the shuttle 15 min or so later
14:54 wizzyrea and lucky that you didn't have any clouds!
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15:24 cait bye #koha
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15:25 wizzyrea http://posterous.com/getfile/f[…]jpg.scaled500.jpg
15:25 *giggle*
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15:41 DarrellUlm Hello
15:42 Data upgrade 3.0->3.2 worked on test VMware machine fine, speed is not so good using VMware (even on a good server) :)
15:52 nengard wizzyrea - hehe
15:53 DarrellUlm Yeah, should have put the mysql on a different server
15:56 chris_n wizzyrea: LOL :)
15:56 DarrellUlm Hmmm, but then the Zebra on a VM...move that off?
15:57 It is not that bad, 140,000 items, 110,000 bibs. It works well for a test machine.
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16:07 DarrellUlm Testing
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16:07 DRUlm Testing2
16:08 jdavidb you're here.  is just reeeal quiet today.
16:09 jwagner @quote random
16:09 munin jwagner: Quote #64: "<jwagner> Depends on whether you're trying to get intelligent participation, or just saying we're going to do it MY way" (added by brendan at 10:58 AM, March 01, 2010)
16:10 * jwagner breaks into Frank Sinatra mode -- I Did It MY Way....
16:11 jdavidb @quote random
16:11 munin jdavidb: Quote #16: "< wizzyrea> i mean, the point of american bacon is to erm, use the belly of the hog (I think)" (added by chris at 05:37 PM, July 17, 2009)
16:12 jdavidb mmmmm....baaaacon.
16:12 DRUlm And "bring home the bacon"
16:13 * jdavidb fries it up in a....erm...microwave.
16:16 wizzyrea @quote random
16:16 munin wizzyrea: Quote #70: "<wizzyrea> owen: I have a jquery... um... query for you" (added by jdavidb at 10:30 AM, April 01, 2010)
16:16 wizzyrea ...
16:16 I must be very quotable
16:16 jdavidb You are.
16:17 wizzyrea I didn't think this was the wizzyrea side show, but maybe I'm just here to amuse you.
16:17 ;)
16:19 jdavidb naah, you just say interesting things a lot.
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16:36 hilongo hey ... how do quotes? in fact.. where can I find a list of commands to use??  I'm not much of IRCish
16:36 hdl_laptop @list
16:36 munin hdl_laptop: Admin, Alias, Bugzilla, Channel, Config, Dict, Factoids, Filter, Games, Google, Herald, Internet, Karma, Lart, Later, MARC, Math, Misc, News, Note, Owner, Plugin, Quote, Seen, Todo, URL, Unix, User, Utilities, and Weather
16:36 hdl_laptop with @list, you get the commands for our bot
16:37 hilongo and there http://www.ircbeginner.com/irc[…]rcc-commands.html
16:37 some commands
16:38 hilongo I see...  thanks a lot! :)
16:38 hdl_laptop @marc 100$a
16:38 munin hdl_laptop: unknown tag 100$a
16:38 hdl_laptop @marc 100 a
16:38 munin hdl_laptop: Personal name A surname and/or forename; letters, initials, abbreviations, phrases, or numbers used in place of a name; or a family name.
16:39 hilongo WOW  :D
16:40 * hilongo sees the entrace to a new world of chatting
16:41 wizzyrea @quote get 23
16:41 munin wizzyrea: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 12:25 PM, August 06, 2009)
16:41 wizzyrea is how you add register your nick,
16:41 then you do @quote add <whatever the quote was>
16:41 hdl_laptop @quote random
16:41 munin hdl_laptop: Quote #26: "<chris> as an aside C4::Search makes my brain hurt" (added by jdavidb at 05:21 PM, August 22, 2009)
16:45 hilongo I have just used this patch
16:45 http://git.biblibre.com/cgi-bi[…]5acd9fc6ede052bfc
16:45 And it worked like a charm fixing a diacritics problem that had me really troubled!
16:46 woohoo!
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17:07 owen Is it possible to use the tar command to extract the contents of an archive to the current directory rather than to the subdirectory the tar file wants to create?
17:16 jdavidb I think there's a flag for that, owen, but i've never used it.
17:34 nengard stupid question
17:35 jwagner nengard, should we take that personally????
17:35 :-)
17:35 nengard still typing...
17:36 how do i query my items table to find items where the barcode is null? when  i do this "select barcode from items;"  i see about 10 but when i just try to get their itemnumbers i get no results ...
17:36 mysql> select * from items where barcode = 'NULL';
17:36 Empty set (0.00 sec)
17:37 jwagner select * from items where barcode IS NULL ?
17:37 ebegin owen, the way I'm doing it is that I'm creating the directory first, then cd to that directory and tar xvfz <tar file dir>/<tar file name>
17:37 nengard DUH!!!!! i'm on so many damn drugs!!
17:37 worked
17:37 thank you!!
17:38 ebegin Anybody can explain me what the Rotating Collections feature is used for?
17:49 nengard ebegin - it's getting removed from 3.2 ....
17:49 which is why i didn't document it and can't answer your question :) hehe
17:49 ebegin :)  ok, so I want loose time transalting the related strings! Yeah!
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18:46 joetho_ks2 I was reading something about this last week (the "rotating collections" feature) and thought it might bear some exploration
18:46 Our consortium has a rotating collection that is currently not automated at all.
18:47 We have plans to automate it someday, but are not in a huge hurry.
18:47 owen joetho_ks2: The start of a rotating feature was added to 3.2, but last I heard gmcharlt was going to take it out because it's not quite ready for prime time
18:47 joetho_ks2 For one thing, it rotates to libraries that are not part of our consortium, which presents some problems
18:48 This collection also rotates to libraries that are not automated at all, which presents an even bigger problem.
18:49 And we thought through some of the issues involved in making something like this work in an ILS and looked around some.
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18:49 joetho_ks2 Didn't find anything, but again- we are not in a hurry to open this particular bag of worms.
18:50 So I am not surprised that it is being moved out of the beta 3.2
18:51 note to self: contact Paul (?) sometime and see if he is going to work on it again for a later version
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18:52 owen joetho_ks2: Kyle Hall
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18:52 joetho_ks2 I thought it was a France thing?
18:55 chris frederic demians
18:55 from tamil
18:56 the translation manager for 3.4 .. im sure he will be up for working on getting it back for 3.4
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19:17 wizzyrea haha
19:17 http://shop.cafepress.com/i-su[…]ved-ils-migration
19:18 bug 4373\
19:18 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4373 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Placing and Processing Items Simultaneously causes multiple issues
19:18 wizzyrea oops, need to set that priority >.>
19:19 bug 4373
19:19 fine, munin. sheesh.
19:19 jdavidb lol
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20:26 chris back at work
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20:34 richard hi
20:39 chris heya richard, wet enough for ya?
20:40 richard is now - was fine and sunny in hamiltron over the weekend
20:41 chris ah, it wasnt actually too bad down here, just packed in last night
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23:03 ebegin Chris, I talked with cait this morning (my morning :))
23:03 about the button not being translated.
23:03 For exemple, I can not find the Set Flags term to translate it.
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23:32 chris ebegin: yeah there is a patch for that
23:32 when its accepted ill regen all the templates
23:32 i only did german as a test
23:33 ebegin ok.  I did it locally and it brought me back my translated buttons :)
23:34 chris cool

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