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| 07:12 | chris | evening |
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| 07:24 | chris | hi magnus |
| 07:24 | magnus | hi chris |
| 07:25 | i see you have had some norwegian visitors in NZ... | |
| 07:25 | chris | heh, that made the news there? |
| 07:25 | they arent the most popular ppl in nz at the moment | |
| 07:25 | magnus | oh, yes |
| 07:26 | completely understandable! | |
| 07:27 | we're not all like that, though... ;-) | |
| 07:28 | chris | hehe i know |
| 07:28 | magnus | at least NZ got on the news here, can't remember the last time... |
| 07:28 | chris | my parents visited norway last year, and my ex girlfriend lives there, she is married to a norwegian |
| 07:29 | magnus | so when are you coming? ;-) |
| 07:29 | chris | its on my list to do :) |
| 07:29 | magnus | goody! make sure you come and visit Bodø, then! |
| 07:29 | chris | lars (who is working on the debian packaging) tells me i have to visit finland too |
| 07:30 | magnus | i had a couple days in Helsinki a couple years ago - nice city! |
| 07:30 | if you need an excuse: http://elag2010.nationallibrary.fi/ | |
| 07:31 | chris | ohhh, ive kinda blown my travel budget for this year already, but maybe i can do next year :) |
| 07:32 | magnus | that was early! |
| 07:32 | good thing you don't have far to go for KohaCon, then! | |
| 07:33 | chris | yeah, its not my work budget, but my leaving wife with the kids budget :-) |
| 07:34 | magnus | ahhh, i see ;-) |
| 07:35 | chris | having to travel a bit round nz this year for koha stuff, and did singapore already |
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| 07:37 | kf | good morning |
| 07:38 | chris | hi kf |
| 07:41 | kf | hi chris |
| 07:43 | chris: any news about button translation? | |
| 07:44 | chris | hdl sent a patch, i have to test it with the frederics new translation script |
| 07:45 | let me check right now | |
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| 08:05 | paul_p | hello world |
| 08:07 | chris | hi paul_p |
| 08:08 | kf: rebuildng the po files now | |
| 08:10 | kf | chris: oh thank you! |
| 08:10 | just came back, we are playing with our new telephones :) | |
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| 09:10 | chris | kf: http://translate.koha.org/de/intranet3_1/ |
| 09:11 | kf | thx, will take a look later - have to solve another problem first |
| 09:17 | hdl_laptop | chris I saw some new string introduced with jquery 3.2 which looks untranslatable |
| 09:18 | fredericd: I saw some new string introduced with jquery 3.2 which looks untranslatable | |
| 09:19 | i should have told fredericd rather | |
| 09:24 | kf | chris: I think it worked - I found some button texts now, will ask my colleague to update our installation on Wednesday (when he is back) |
| 09:27 | chris | cool |
| 09:30 | kf | chris++ :) |
| 09:31 | hm, some strings are a bit problematic | |
| 09:31 | " alt="" class="thumbnail" /> | |
| 09:32 | ">Click to open in new window | |
| 09:32 | &type=xw10">Click to open in new window | |
| 09:32 | from 3.2 opac | |
| 09:33 | chris | yes, the templates need to be fixed in those cases |
| 09:33 | kf | ah ok :) |
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| 12:32 | owen | Hi #koha |
| 12:32 | jdavidb | Hi, owen. :) |
| 12:33 | owen | Anyone here have any advice about conducting inventory? |
| 12:33 | jdavidb | "Doctor, it hurts when we do this." "Then don't do that." |
| 12:34 | owen | :P |
| 12:35 | jdavidb | hehehe. |
| 12:35 | In nearly 20 years in Library IT, on three different ILSes, I've not yet seen a way to do inventory that didn't involve a substantial amount of pain and suffering. | |
| 12:36 | owen | jdavidb: Have you had any Koha clients conduct inventory using the built-in inventory tool? |
| 12:37 | jdavidb | I haven't heard of any of our customers trying it yet, no. A couple have talked about it a little, but not seriously. Whether that's out of FUD from having done it on other systems, or because of lack of other resources to execute, I can't say. |
| 12:38 | It seems to be one of those tools that everyone wants their ILS to have, but no one actually *wants* to use. | |
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| 12:41 | owen | We've gone too long without an inventory, so we're going to take the plunge |
| 12:42 | The basic needs are pretty easily met: Check everything in, do a report on which items haven't been seen | |
| 12:42 | jdavidb | 'bout like Unicorn's system, then. Mark everything "seen", then look for things that aren't checked out, but haven't been "seen" since before you started wanding items. |
| 12:43 | owen | Right. I think the only thing we're going to want which isn't built in is a mass update of items not found. A global "missing in inventory" lost setting for those items. |
| 12:44 | jdavidb | If you can snag the barcodes of all those items, should be easy enough to write a little script to shove 'em all past C4::Items::ModItem for that. |
| 12:46 | C4::Items::ModItem++ # it takes care of marc and marcxml 952s, and reindexes when necessary, very intelligently. | |
| 12:47 | jwagner | owen, see Bug 4353 -- is this the correct approach? |
| 12:47 | munin` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4353 enhancement, P5, ---, jwagnerptfs.com, ASSIGNED, Add div tags to staff advanced search page |
| 12:49 | owen | jwagner: I think you could just add IDs to the existing divs couldn't you? |
| 12:49 | Or are the existing ones not in groupings you're looking for? | |
| 12:49 | jwagner | There weren't any existing divs in the staff advanced search. |
| 12:49 | OPAC, yes, but not staff | |
| 12:49 | owen | Oh sorry I was looking at the OPAC |
| 12:50 | Yes, absolutely | |
| 12:50 | jwagner | OK, I'll send this out as a patch in a few minutes. Thanks for checking. |
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| 13:00 | hdl_laptop | owen: we worked on inventory for 3.2. |
| 13:00 | Some things were not really neat about circulation process. | |
| 13:01 | SHould be in master now. | |
| 13:01 | owen | hdl_laptop: Can you describe what kind of changes you made? |
| 13:02 | jdavidb is now known as jdavidb_meeting | |
| 13:02 | owen | We're not using 3.2 in production, so I'm curious what kind of problems you've solved. |
| 13:04 | hdl_laptop | mm it is not in master. |
| 13:05 | Maybe not sent. | |
| 13:05 | But it was dealing with circulation and all the special status items. | |
| 13:07 | owen | I don't understand... "special status items?" |
| 13:11 | hdl_laptop | http://imagebin.ca/view/mNT3OoF.html |
| 13:11 | Here you are | |
| 13:12 | You can choose to ignore items which are "damaged", withdrawn.... | |
| 13:12 | kf | 3297 words need attention ... it never ends |
| 13:15 | owen | hdl_laptop: I see, when you're running post-inventory reports you can configure which statuses will be ignored |
| 13:16 | hdl_laptop | you can even choose which items to consider IN your inventory |
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| 13:18 | * owen | prepares to go under |
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| 13:20 | * chris_n | hands owen__ a life preserve |
| 13:21 | chris_n | heya nengard |
| 13:21 | owen__ | I always forget just how many times a VirtualBox upgrade will kill my connection |
| 13:21 | nengard | hiya |
| 13:21 | chris_n | s/preserve/preserver/ |
| 13:21 | kf | hi nengard - hope you feel better |
| 13:21 | owen__ | Hand me some preserves, it'll keep me out of a jam |
| 13:21 | nengard | thanks kf - so far this morning is going much better |
| 13:22 | kf | good to hear that! |
| 13:22 | nengard | just have to get back into the swing of things - that's hard |
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| 13:25 | owen__ | nengard, I'll ask you what I asked jdavidb: Have any of your Koha libraries done inventory? |
| 13:26 | nengard | not that i know of - i always show how to do it - but never had a library tell me after the fact that they did it |
| 13:28 | owen__ | Well then nengard, hopefully I'll have an item for the May Koha newsletter: "Inventory: What are you all afraid of?" |
| 13:29 | Either that or "Inventory: Be very afraid!" | |
| 13:29 | nengard | awesome!! |
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| 13:29 | nengard | LOL |
| 13:29 | owen__ is now known as owen | |
| 13:30 | owen | I can see a whole list of library-related articles based on horror movie tag lines: "Reference Desk: Don't. Fall. Asleep." |
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| 13:30 | owen | "Cataloging: No one can hear you scream (because you're in the basement)" |
| 13:32 | chris_n | hehe |
| 13:33 | so with rfid, one presumably could just walk down the stacks and inventory would be automagic? | |
| 13:34 | owen | That's what we were told in 2001 or whenever we first heard about RFID at the library |
| 13:34 | In fact we were told that RFID would shelf-read for us too | |
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| 13:39 | chris_n | shelf-read == tell if it is on the shelf or not? |
| 13:39 | owen | Tell if the books are in order |
| 13:40 | * gmcharlt | wonders if that has worked for anybody in practice |
| 13:41 | collum | Shelf reading is traditionally the reward shelvers receive when there's nothing left to shelve. |
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| 13:43 | owen | gmcharlt: What I was later told was that no RFID technology can pinpoint the position of a tag that accurately |
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| 13:46 | paul_p | hello owen & chris_n & nengard & gmcharlt & collum : good morning ! |
| 13:46 | owen | Hi paul_p |
| 13:46 | collum | Do RFID scanners read from left to right or do they pick up the tag with the most strength? |
| 13:46 | Good morning paul_p | |
| 13:47 | gmcharlt | hi paul_p |
| 13:47 | collum | If there is a stack of items with RFID tags? |
| 13:47 | owen | collum: I think they pick up everything within their range without any sequence, but I don't really know |
| 13:47 | gmcharlt | collum: I think it's less specific - distince of tag from scanner |
| 13:47 | I don't know how directional it is | |
| 13:47 | collum | I always wondered, but never investigated. |
| 13:50 | chris_n | collum: it depends on the language the rfid tags are encoded in.... ;-) |
| 13:52 | if shelf-reading really worked, it seems that inventory would be instantaneous and continual | |
| 13:52 | hdl_laptop | hi all |
| 13:52 | chris_n | howdy hdl_laptop & paul_p |
| 13:52 | owen | If my shelf were intelligent and networked it could tell me if the right books were on it |
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| 13:54 | collum | Once again we come to my dream of RFID with GPS. |
| 13:55 | gmcharlt | hi hdl_laptop |
| 13:56 | * collum | as a bureaucrat wants to spend $20 so $10 items won't get lost. |
| 13:59 | * chris_n | quickly casts his vote for collum |
| 14:00 | * gmcharlt | votes for collum as long as he gets the equipment contract ;) |
| 14:02 | Sharon | Good morning - quick question. Are there any limits to how long a Comment can be in the OPAC? I have a library who wants to encourage adding book reviews to the catalog. |
| 14:04 | owen | Sharon: There's not a limit on the database field which contains the review text |
| 14:04 | (type: text) | |
| 14:05 | Sharon | great. So they can be long winded, if they want to be. Thank you, Owen. |
| 14:06 | * owen | would love to hear if your library has success with their campaign |
| 14:07 | Sharon | I'll keep and eye on it and report back! |
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| 14:21 | juan | asdfasdf |
| 14:22 | chris_n | btegbteg |
| 14:23 | owen | Mxyzptlk |
| 14:23 | * gmcharlt | welcomes the invasion of cats, puppies, and small children to #koha ;) |
| 14:24 | rhcl | So much better than the usual big children.... |
| 14:26 | kf | gmcharlt: hi gmcharlt, still interested in marc21 data from our union catalog? |
| 14:26 | gmcharlt | kf: I am |
| 14:28 | kf | gmcharlt: I was a little worried to give you data from one of our libraries without asking them. But I talked to my colleague and she told me I can order the changes of one day in our union catalog with authorities but without holding data (dont know how big this will get...) - is this ok for you? |
| 14:28 | gmcharlt | kf: sounds lovely |
| 14:29 | kf | ok, I will write a ticket for my colleague to make you a nice package :) |
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| 14:30 | juan | hi all |
| 14:30 | i would like to talk about apache proxy and how session.pm handle ip remote addresses | |
| 14:32 | when koha runs though a proxy server | |
| 14:32 | it detects the ip from this proxy, not the real ip address of the visitor | |
| 14:32 | and this is a problem, because Auth.pm do not works well | |
| 14:33 | * chris_n | seems to remember the need to setup the x-forward header |
| 14:33 | chris_n | but I've never messed with apache proxy |
| 14:33 | only squid | |
| 14:33 | juan | but i think is the same situation |
| 14:34 | chris_n | juan: maybe this will help: http://devcentral.f5.com/weblo[…]8/06/02/3323.aspx |
| 14:34 | juan | i think Squid send the real ip in HTTP_FORWARED_FOR variable |
| 14:35 | chris_n | s/x-forward/x-forwarded-for/ |
| 14:35 | juan | i solved it changing Auth.pm and CGI/Session.pm |
| 14:35 | but i dont know if it was the better way | |
| 14:37 | rhcl | On this page: http://koha-community.org/category/3-2/ |
| 14:37 | The entry for Feb 3 reads: Tarballs of Koha 3.2 alpha available | |
| 14:37 | But all the links are for 3.02. Is I missing something? | |
| 14:38 | chris_n | C4::Auth.pm and C4::Session.pm could be made to also check x-forwarded-for based on a syspref perhaps |
| 14:38 | rhcl | I suppose 3.02 may be the pre 3.2, but maybe a quick line there could explain that? |
| 14:39 | juan | i cha |
| 14:39 | rhcl | Nevermind, if you read the third entry there's a quick reference to that. |
| 14:39 | Everybody back to sleep... | |
| 14:39 | chris_n | juan: see http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=390754 also |
| 14:40 | juan | chris_n: I changed cpan's Session.pm, because it resolve only REMOTE_ADDR |
| 14:40 | chris_n: let me see | |
| 14:40 | Sharon | Another comments question - how does a patron delete a comment that has been approved? Is there a "my comments" tab that I'm just not seeing? |
| 14:40 | chris_n | opps... but in any case, a fix to Koha's libs would certainly be welcomed I'm sure |
| 14:42 | juan: actually, that link to perlmonks probably does not apply here | |
| 14:42 | gmcharlt | Sharon: oddly, that facility doesn't current exist |
| 14:43 | juan | chris_n: yes ..., I think koha does not take into account running it though a proxy |
| 14:43 | Sharon | might have to put in an enhancement bug for that. There doesn't seem to be any easy way to delete an approved comment by either the patron or the librarian |
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| 14:44 | juan | gmcharlt: now, when I implement a koha into a new server, i have to put my Session.pm version and my C4::Auth.pm changed, but I think koha would be modified to take into account this issue |
| 14:45 | and if I dont have to change Session.pm from cpan, is better ... | |
| 14:46 | chris_n | juan: it seems you may need to be running mod_perl which iirc causes some issues for koha |
| 14:46 | gmcharlt | juan: sure - send a patch; I'm pretty sure that the CGI::Session folks also accept patches |
| 14:47 | juan | gmcharlt: a few months ago I send an email to CPAN Session.pm author, but i have no answer yet |
| 14:47 | gmcharlt | eh, that's unfortunate |
| 14:47 | try opening a bug on CPAN and attaching the patch | |
| 14:48 | juan | gmcharlt: ok, i'll try |
| 14:48 | anyway, i will commit my changes to our repository in github | |
| 14:48 | and you can evaluate them | |
| 14:48 | when i have it commited, i'll send a message to koha-devel | |
| 14:49 | gmcharlt | ok |
| 14:50 | juan | It works perfect under a proxy, but i would receive any oppinion about this change |
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| 14:54 | kf | question :) I need to change the shelving location for a call range in 3.1.61 (no batch editing) - is there an easy way to do this? will it be enough to change items table and reindex? |
| 14:56 | jdavidb | kf, you would save yourself some pain and suffering by getting the itemnumbers, and feeding them to C4::Items::ModItem. That would take care of the marc/marcxml changes, and the indexing, all in one run. |
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| 14:57 | jmill2010 | hi all |
| 14:57 | i have a question :) | |
| 14:57 | kf | jdavidb: not sure I know enough perl |
| 14:58 | jdavidb: will the other method work too? | |
| 14:58 | jdavidb | The other method won't change the marc/marcxml, so reindexing would not do any good. |
| 14:59 | you'd need to run misc/maintenance/sync_items_in_marc_bib.pl, which would clean up the marc/marcxml, and reindex for you. | |
| 14:59 | kf | hm. ok, so I need to update marcxml and item in the database |
| 14:59 | jmill2010 | some students (patrons) are allowed to check out certain books for the entire semester, how would you set that up in Koha, or is it a matter of just having the option to override at circ |
| 14:59 | kf | is this script save in a production environment? |
| 15:00 | jdavidb | yep. I've used it several times. |
| 15:00 | it treats the item-table stuff as official, and recreates the 952s from it for all biblios. | |
| 15:00 | kf | jdavidb: I think this is the easiest way for us right now - thank you :) |
| 15:01 | jdavidb | (and it pumps them into zebraqueue, so they'll reindex automatically.) |
| 15:01 | you be4tcha. | |
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| 15:04 | jmill2010 | i mean it can be any student, depending on financial need, and it can be any type of book, depending on availability |
| 15:06 | owen | jmill2010: If it's a random combination of circumstances you'll probably have to use the "specify due date" widget on the circulation page |
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| 15:07 | jmill2010 | yes, owen, it is random |
| 15:08 | awesome | |
| 15:08 | thanks! | |
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| 15:20 | jmill2010 | just need to confirm :) |
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| 15:50 | * jdavidb__ | peers quizzically at jdavidb and jdavidb_. |
| 15:50 | kf | clonesß |
| 15:51 | ? | |
| 15:51 | jdavidb__ | Enough of me to get *half* of what I need to do finished, maybe. |
| 15:52 | * kf | wrote myself a lot of tickets, feel a little overwhelmed now |
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| 15:52 | kf | i need clones too |
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| 16:19 | kf | ok, time to ignore my tickets :) - bye #koha |
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| 17:31 | juan|away | gmcharlt: hi, galen |
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