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| 07:54 | kf | good morning :) |
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| 08:00 | hdl_laptop | hi kf |
| 08:03 | kf | hi hdl :) |
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| 10:21 | kf | hi chris |
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| 11:56 | jdavidb | @wunder 20817 |
| 11:56 | munin` | jdavidb: The current temperature in Potomac Highlands, Rockville, Maryland is 9.2�C (7:54 AM EDT on March 29, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.76 in 1007.7 hPa (Falling). |
| 11:57 | jdavidb | ...which doesn't tell the story, of course. Rainy, nasty, grey morning here. Mornin', #koha. |
| 12:02 | * kf | would be happy with rain |
| 12:02 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 12:02 | munin` | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is 13.0�C (1:56 PM CEST on March 29, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:02 | kf | hay fever |
| 12:05 | gmcharlt | @wunder 32605 |
| 12:05 | munin` | gmcharlt: The current temperature in FoxFire Woods, Gainesville, Florida is 15.6�C (8:04 AM EDT on March 29, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.69 in 1005.3 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:08 | kf | gmcharlt: I m working on xslt changes for analytical records (linking between recods in general) |
| 12:09 | gmcharlt | kf++ |
| 12:09 | kf | gmcharlt: using $w if possible and a text link |
| 12:09 | gmcharlt: just to let you know, because its a topic on the mailing list - will try to write something there too | |
| 12:10 | gmcharlt | will you need any new indexes? |
| 12:10 | kf | yes |
| 12:10 | one for $w | |
| 12:10 | we called in control-number-link or something in our test installation | |
| 12:11 | several fields with subfield $w in one index, I wrote down the requirements and we have the index in our test installtion, I will try to submit patches for everything as soon as its tested, but perhaps will need some help with git sometimes :) | |
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| 12:25 | kf | gmcharlt: reading the emails about analytics: do you think $w + text link will work? I read that some people also catalog isbn and issn - is this 'standard'? |
| 12:26 | gmcharlt | kf: yes, they do, and it is "standard" |
| 12:26 | so, for example, 77x$x and 77x$z would be used as well | |
| 12:26 | kf | hm ok |
| 12:27 | I just had our records to look at and was not aware of this possibility | |
| 12:27 | gmcharlt | part of the problem is that there is no one good current identifier for works, expressions, and manifestation |
| 12:28 | the OCLC number comes closest, at least for certain languages | |
| 12:28 | but can be difficult to get at | |
| 12:28 | kf | perhaps I will start with a solution for $w and text in $a and x and z can be added in the next step |
| 12:28 | we have unique identifiers from the union catalog, but I know our situation is a bit special | |
| 12:30 | dont know about works, expressions and manifestations, but for essays and such things | |
| 12:30 | gmcharlt: is a new index a problem? | |
| 12:30 | gmcharlt | nope |
| 12:31 | kf | ok :) |
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| 12:58 | kf | hm I wrote to koha mailing list, but its not there yet |
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| 13:07 | gmcharlt | fredericd: what's the git protocol clone URL for http://git.tamil.fr/?p=marcmpm;a=summary |
| 13:08 | kf | ah, email arrived .) |
| 13:30 | * jdavidb | is increasingly frustrated by diacritics. Again. |
| 13:30 | * kf | feels with jdavid |
| 13:31 | kf | what is your problem? |
| 13:32 | jdavidb | I did a prior experiment using icu, with less-than-wonderful results (couldn't see any change). During some transition talks here, kados had said he had the problem whipped, *without* using ICU, but more and more I get the suspicion that he wasn't telling the whole story. |
| 13:33 | kf | hm |
| 13:33 | jdavidb | So I'm trying again with ICU, based on the guidance in bug 2629, and we'll see how it goes. |
| 13:33 | munin` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2629 major, P1, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, Diacritics not being ignored when searching |
| 13:33 | kf | we have good experiences with icu |
| 13:34 | ignoring diacritics for search | |
| 13:34 | jdavidb | I'm using the ICU chain from Comment #3 on this bug; we'll see how it turns out. Reindexing a database now. |
| 13:34 | Right. I've got a db that contains the name Justo Gonzalez (with an accent over the a), but not without the accent, so I'll know right quick if it worked. | |
| 13:35 | Want to be able to search without typing the accent. | |
| 13:35 | kf | I can look at our server how our file looks |
| 13:35 | jdavidb | If I can find something that *works*, I'll run it on everyone's stuff, and make many customers happy. |
| 13:36 | kf | but I think its quite similar |
| 13:36 | jdavidb | If you're happy with your results, kf, I'd *love* to get a look at your icu-chain. |
| 13:37 | kf | my colleague got it working, but I can search the file for you |
| 13:37 | perhaps you might want to look at our opac hfjs.bsz-bw.de - bibliotheque bibliothèque and bibliothéque are the same results there | |
| 13:38 | * jdavidb | looks. |
| 13:38 | kf | can you give me the path? |
| 13:39 | jdavidb | sweet! yeah, that's *just* what we want. |
| 13:40 | My ICU chain is in koha-dev/etc/zebradb/etc/icu.xml, but a grep in etc/zebradb/etc for icu_chain should find it. | |
| 13:42 | kf | perhaps you need to change something else |
| 13:43 | jdavidb | before, transliterate rules were getting errors, but so far they haven't, this time...we shall see. |
| 13:44 | kf | I can ask my colleague what he did - but not before Wednesday |
| 13:44 | I you want me to look at other files I can do | |
| 13:46 | jdavidb | okay. I've got a test run about 2/3 done. Cross fingers. |
| 13:46 | * kf | crosses fingers |
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| 14:01 | jdavidb | morning, jwagner |
| 14:01 | jwagner | morning |
| 14:01 | * chris_n` | glares at chris_n |
| 14:03 | jdavidb | Two chris_n-s! yay! |
| 14:03 | * jdavidb | assigns a big bunch of bugs. |
| 14:05 | * jwagner | hopes the two chris_ns are not locked in mortal combat somewhere.... |
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| 14:28 | chris_n` | heh |
| 14:28 | power outages sometime cause unintentional cloning :) | |
| 14:28 | jwagner | So THAT's how it's done! |
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| 14:39 | jdavidb | well, okay. kf, it sorta worked, thanks for crossing your fingers. But I'm having another odd behavior--I have to specify an index now, to get what I want... kw:gonzalez works, but gonzalez alone returns no results. (*everything* returns no-results.."twain", even.) |
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| 14:40 | kf | jdavidb: turn off all search options |
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| 14:40 | kf | jdavidb: and turn them on one after the other... one of those is your problem |
| 14:40 | jdavidb: I always forget which one | |
| 14:40 | and we turned off some more because not all work with hebrew | |
| 14:42 | jdavidb | ah-hah. QueryFuzzy seems to be the culprit. |
| 14:43 | now González and Gonzalez return the same number of hits. | |
| 14:44 | kf++ | |
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| 14:56 | wizzyrea | good mid-morning CDT |
| 14:56 | jdavidb | Hi, wizzyrea! :) |
| 15:00 | kf | karma! :) |
| 15:34 | jdavidb | @karma kf |
| 15:34 | munin` | jdavidb: Karma for "kf" has been increased 8 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 8. |
| 15:34 | jdavidb | @karma |
| 15:34 | munin` | jdavidb: Highest karma: "gmcharlt" (116), "chris" (115), and "owen" (91). Lowest karma: "<!" (-47), "failed" (-36), and "-" (-23). You (jdavidb) are ranked 16 out of 748. |
| 15:35 | gmcharlt | poor punctuation - so underappreciated |
| 15:36 | kf | :) |
| 15:36 | @karma ie | |
| 15:36 | munin` | kf: Karma for "ie" has been increased 0 times and decreased 8 times for a total karma of -8. |
| 15:37 | kf | hm |
| 15:37 | jdavidb | @karma jdavidb |
| 15:37 | munin` | jdavidb: Karma for "jdavidb" has been increased 19 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 19. |
| 15:40 | kf | 456 words need attention :) |
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| 16:06 | kf | Intranet for 3.1.x/3.2 100 Complete yay :) |
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| 16:15 | jmill2010 | hi all |
| 16:15 | wizzyrea | ok, I have a jquery question |
| 16:16 | I want to get rid of the No Holds Allowed text | |
| 16:16 | http://screencast.com/t/MmE4MjM2 | |
| 16:16 | it doesn't have any tags around it except <td></td> | |
| 16:16 | I have been able to select to the cell, but I don't know how to change the text | |
| 16:16 | or remove it, actually | |
| 16:16 | everything I've tried removes the cells, and I know that I need to be more specific, but I'm not sure the code allows it? | |
| 16:17 | can I say everything *not* in a <p></p>? | |
| 16:18 | I think it's the only thing outside the p, but inside the TD | |
| 16:25 | jmill2010 | I have a general question regarding barcode systems, how do i figure that out, i don't see any info about that in the manual |
| 16:25 | jwagner | wizzyrea, as a guess, try this in intranetuserjs: $("#searchresults span:contains('No holds allowed')").remove(); |
| 16:26 | wizzyrea | hmmm interesting approach, I was looking at :not() |
| 16:28 | :( no, that doesn't do it | |
| 16:29 | jwagner | Oh, well, was just a guess :-( |
| 16:29 | wizzyrea | ty tho |
| 16:29 | jwagner | May have to wait until owen is online. |
| 16:30 | kf | hi liz |
| 16:30 | still need help? | |
| 16:31 | wizzyrea | I'm thinking something like #searchresults td:not(:p).(something) |
| 16:31 | yea lol | |
| 16:31 | jwagner | Maybe $("#searchresults span:contains('No holds allowed')").replaceWith(" "); |
| 16:34 | kf | I have an idea |
| 16:34 | give me a mom to test | |
| 16:36 | hm, does not work as expected :( | |
| 16:37 | jmill2010 | regarding barcode systems, i don't see any info about that in the manual |
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| 16:39 | schuster | hello everyone! |
| 16:39 | My question today is - can I load a batch of records with items and replace the existing items through the web interface? | |
| 16:39 | jwagner | jmill2010, what are you looking for? What kind of barcode to use? Or barcode reader? |
| 16:40 | kf | tried $("td:contains('No holds allowed')").html(""); but selector needs to be more specific |
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| 16:40 | jmill2010 | all of the above |
| 16:40 | kf | schuster: yes, using matching rules |
| 16:40 | ah no | |
| 16:40 | you cant replace items | |
| 16:40 | sorry, need to read more carefully | |
| 16:41 | jmill2010 | say I buy a barcode scanner and printer, what then |
| 16:41 | schuster | hmmm Drat. |
| 16:41 | kf | once an item is created with a specific barcode, you cant delete or change it with the web interface |
| 16:41 | schuster | OK game plan 2... Thanks |
| 16:42 | jwagner | jmill2010, so far as I know, Koha can read any standard barcode. If you can scan the barcode into a text file, it should work with Koha. |
| 16:43 | jmill2010 | just like that, no need to configure anything? |
| 16:44 | jwagner | I think there's a syspref for barcode reader that you might want to set to cuecat (that being the nearest equivalent). |
| 16:45 | jmill2010 | thanks, jwagner, where would that syspref be? |
| 16:45 | kf | hm cuecat is special |
| 16:45 | its a special barcode reader device which encodes the barcode | |
| 16:46 | the cuecat setting is to decoe the barcode as far as I know | |
| 16:46 | so you might want to use no setting | |
| 16:46 | * kf | owns a declawed cuecat |
| 16:47 | jwagner | kf, thanks. I thought I remembered reading that cuecat was a generic for any type of reader. |
| 16:48 | Syspref is itemBarcodeInputFilter, under Administration, System Preferences, Circulation. You probably also want to turn off autoBarcode under the Cataloging sysprefs | |
| 16:48 | jmill2010 | so i guess any barcode scanner will do, or does anyone recommend a particular model/brand? |
| 16:49 | kf | cuecat: http://spedr.com/2y7lx |
| 16:49 | jmill2010: you can program barcode readers to use different barcode codes | |
| 16:50 | I think the reader is not that important as long as it can read your code (most readers will read all common barcode codes) | |
| 16:52 | jmill2010 | awesome, thanks, guys! |
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| 17:00 | kf | wizzyrea? |
| 17:03 | chris_n` | jmill2010: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php#[…]ode_scanner_notes |
| 17:04 | jmill2010 | Thanks, chris_n! |
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| 17:20 | kf | ok, time to leave office :) |
| 17:20 | bye all | |
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| 17:41 | jdavidb | @seen nengard |
| 17:41 | munin` | jdavidb: nengard was last seen in #koha 2 days, 23 hours, 38 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <nengard> wizzyrea a sinus infection - a bad one |
| 17:41 | jdavidb | Gosh. Long time out, for her. |
| 17:47 | hdl_laptop | jdavidb : QueryFuzzy introduces a zebra 5=103 which is not supported with icu |
| 17:48 | jdavidb: she is ill | |
| 17:50 | wizzyrea | oh bother, missed kf |
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| 17:57 | wizzyrea | hey, is there any movement on changing the order of the edit items table? |
| 17:58 | those first 6 or so subfields need to be displayed at the end, not the beginning | |
| 17:58 | the end of the row* | |
| 18:08 | jdavidb | hdl_laptop: I remember hearing last week about her being sick. :/ Hope she gets well soon...miss her smilin' face. |
| 18:09 | wizzyrea | terrible asthma attack brought on by a sinus infection, she told me |
| 18:09 | twitter/facebook said she left hospital yesterday | |
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| 19:28 | chris_n` | monday-- #for good measure |
| 19:28 | * chris_n` | wonders what chris_n got done today ;) |
| 19:35 | wajasu | me too |
| 19:36 | gonna try that alpha tar | |
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| 19:40 | richard | hi |
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| 19:52 | chris | morning |
| 20:04 | chris_n` | hey richard && chris |
| 20:04 | richard | hi chris_n |
| 20:04 | and chris :) | |
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| 22:09 | chris_n | its far too quiet in here for a monday |
| 22:09 | chris | thats cos its tuesday |
| 22:09 | chris_n | hehe |
| 22:40 | gmcharlt | zing! ;) |
| 22:42 | chris | tis a pretty quiet tuesday too |
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| 23:48 | brendan | evening #koha |
| 23:49 | chris | hiya brendan |
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