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06:07 | wajasu | if you run from git, do you just 'git pull' or 'git fetchj |
06:07 | get fetch to get the latest | |
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07:13 | Ropuch | Morning #koha |
07:18 | chris | hi Ropuch |
07:24 | Ropuch | Hi chris |
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07:24 | CGI853 | hi |
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07:29 | ppak | anybody can help me to solve this problem.. |
07:29 | MARC acquisition system Import into the reservoir Import results : * 0 imported records * 0 not imported because already in catalog * 0 not imported because already in the reservoir * 2 not imported because they seem not to be in MARC format (or ISBN/ISSN missing) ! * 2 records parsed * Back | |
07:36 | Amit_G | hi Ropuch, chris |
07:37 | Ropuch | Hi Amit_G |
07:38 | ppak: where did you get the records you're trying to import? | |
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07:42 | paul_p | hello world |
07:42 | ppak | i get from other lib opac.. |
07:46 | Ropuch | Hi paul_p |
07:48 | ppak: Can you paste the file you're trying to import to pastbin.org? | |
07:48 | There's only 2 records in it, right? | |
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07:52 | ppak | i'm not try for this one.. |
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08:11 | ppak | i've done it..tq 4 ur help |
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09:02 | kf | hi #koha |
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09:11 | miguel-xercode | hi all |
09:16 | I wonder if there is the option to select or change styles koha to provide, for example, about koha default styles for the catalog and other for kids catalog ? | |
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09:58 | Willem | Hi, does anyone know why the following doesn't update the patron info: ModMember( borrowernumber => '503', address => 'My New Address' ); it is run by perl without errors and even returns as true, but afterwards, the patron info is still the same. I'm using ModItem successfully to update item info. |
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10:12 | hdl_laptop | Willem: which version ? |
10:14 | Willem | our koha version is 3.00.01.005 is that what you're asking? |
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11:40 | jdavidb | howdy, #koha. |
11:41 | kf | hi jdavidb |
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12:21 | chris_n | greetings #koha |
12:22 | jwagner | G'morning chris_n |
12:27 | chris_n | doesn't 'git checkout -b committish' create a topic branch at the commit referenced by committish? |
12:32 | jdavidb | no, it would create a branch named commitish, at the current HEAD. what you're probably looking for is 'git checkout -b branchname commitish', I think. |
12:34 | chris_n | jdavidb: bingo :) |
12:35 | jdavidb | :) |
12:59 | jwagner | Any XSLT experts on this morning? |
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13:00 | jwagner | I'm working on Bug 4276, trying to strip out the parens. |
13:00 | munin` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4276 critical, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, "Related subjects" search is OPAC doesn't work with chained subject terms |
13:01 | jwagner | In the chopPunctuation section of MARC21slimUtils.xsl, it has <xsl:when test="contains('.:,;/ ', substring($chopString,$length,1))"> |
13:02 | I was trying to add the parens into that, but it either ignores them completely or thinks they're trying to close the call. I tried escaping them with backslashes \(\) but it ignored that. How to make this section include parens as punctuation to be stripped out? | |
13:07 | * chris_n | admits that he gave up on the xslt stuff awhile back |
13:08 | chris_n | the civicrm web installer checks directory permissions and flags those incorrect... that would be nice to implement in the koha web installer |
13:08 | it might head off a whole herd of zebra problems | |
13:09 | * jwagner | has visions of herds of zebras running amok |
13:10 | braedon|home | what is with all the zebra jokes today? |
13:10 | chris_n | yes, they are easily spooked :) |
13:10 | braedon|home | both on here, and in the mailing list |
13:10 | has no one previously realised "Zebra" is the name of an animal? | |
13:10 | * braedon|home | finds it rather perplexing |
13:11 | owen | Each of those people has finally reached the stage where Zebra has driven them insane. |
13:11 | * jwagner | thinks we'll find humor whever we can.... |
13:11 | chris_n | they are long standing actually and tend to flare up when the herd stampedes |
13:12 | however, when all is quiet on the western front so to speak, the joke tend to ebb | |
13:12 | jwagner | Now, see, if we replaced zebra with SOLR, we could make jokes about solar eclipses etc. |
13:12 | chris_n | perhaps with such a change we'd finally see the light of day? |
13:12 | owen | And Ed Begley Jr. |
13:12 | collum | jwagner: there is a chopBracketsls |
13:12 | oops | |
13:13 | chopBrackets function in MARC21slimOPACResults.xsl | |
13:13 | I wonder if you can copy that and change it to chopParens | |
13:15 | jwagner | collum, I was trying a separate chopParens function initially but had no luck. I'll take another look. The chopBrackets looks like the same syntax, and the brackets aren't escaped -- <xsl:if test="substring($string, 1,1)='['"> |
13:16 | collum | The escaping looks correct, but I wonder if chopString just removes the last character of a string. |
13:16 | * collum | doesn't like xslt |
13:18 | * jwagner | doesn't like it either. |
13:18 | kf | hey |
13:18 | I m starting work on xslt right now - dont make me give up :) | |
13:20 | jwagner | No, no, escape while you still can!!! |
13:21 | * jwagner | thinks it would help if I knew what I was doing, rather than fumbling with an unfamiliar language and syntax. |
13:31 | hdl_laptop | jwagner: there are very good xslt tutorials online |
13:34 | jwagner | hdl_laptop, I've been working through some of them. Not too much help, so far. |
13:38 | * chris_n | takes another guess at erik's problem |
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13:51 | jwagner | collum, I'm not having any luck with the parens problem, and I have to break off to work on other stuff. I can try to come back to it later, but I don't know when, sigh. |
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13:53 | kf | jwagner: need to implement links with $w between titles - need to understand marc first, xslt after that... :( |
13:54 | jwagner | kf, then you're REALLY done for :-) |
13:54 | collum | np. I'm not able to look at it again till next week. |
13:54 | kf | yep :) |
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14:45 | wizzyrea_home | nengard: images again, but much much better |
14:45 | I think this may work now | |
14:45 | (yes, it's still broken atm) | |
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14:48 | CGI474 | Hi I want to transfer data from one server to another server. I don't know how to transfer that data. Can anyone please help me with that.. Both the machine have same versions, |
14:48 | hdl_laptop | mysqldump |
14:48 | on the first server | |
14:48 | mysqldump >file.sql | |
14:49 | CGI474 | ohk let me try |
14:49 | thanks a lot | |
14:49 | hdl_laptop | mysql database -u user -ppaswd <file.sql |
14:49 | Be CAREFULL | |
14:49 | CGI474 | I am not working on live data so I think I can take chance even if it not works good |
14:50 | If I am successful then I will get my hand on live data | |
14:56 | wizzyrea_home | @later tell nengard squee! |
14:56 | munin` | wizzyrea_home: The operation succeeded. |
14:57 | wizzyrea_home | @later tell nicomo thanks for fixing the characters in the appendix. HTML generation of the manual seems to work great now. :) |
14:57 | munin` | wizzyrea_home: The operation succeeded. |
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15:02 | wizzyrea | oh snap |
15:02 | http://news.slashdot.org/story[…]racy?from=twitter | |
15:03 | I think the first comment sums it up | |
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15:17 | sekjal | wizzyrea: agreed |
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15:26 | wajasu | something peculiar. i am running out of git (origin), and i load my 16000 records. I search and some show up duplicated in the results. |
15:27 | wizzyrea | http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
15:28 | see 1 | |
15:28 | chris_n | wizzyrea++ #for such excellent work |
15:29 | wizzyrea | chris did it |
15:29 | >.> I just set up the infrastructure | |
15:29 | chris_n | chris++ #ditto |
15:29 | seems we are on our way to taming the zebra | |
15:29 | wajasu | I'll try that out. Yeah community! |
15:30 | sekjal | wizzyrea++ . Thanks for all your efforts on the Koha site |
15:33 | wizzyrea | :) thanks, it's fun and for a good cause. |
15:34 | sekjal | had there been plans discussed for redoing contribs.koha.org using the new site? It seems like the kind of content that WP would manage well |
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15:36 | wizzyrea | yes, in fact it does seem like it would work there |
15:36 | I'm waiting on DNS for subdomains | |
15:36 | Si is on holiday | |
15:36 | sekjal | okay, cool. |
15:36 | wizzyrea | but I do think contribs would work there |
15:36 | and things like the report library | |
15:36 | er, or not | |
15:36 | that's probably better on the wiki | |
15:37 | * wizzyrea | changes her mind quickly a lot |
15:37 | * jwagner | thinks that's better than never changing it at all :-) |
15:37 | sekjal | I'm late in posting my III migration code I promised at C4L. perhaps I just should post to the existing contribs and redo it if/when we switch |
15:38 | wizzyrea | well re-do = copy/paste |
15:38 | ;) | |
15:38 | or download/upload, as the case may be | |
15:38 | I'd go ahead and post it | |
15:39 | sekjal | yeah, I should. |
15:39 | but that means I have to give the XSLT a good twice-over, to give the best possible example to build from | |
15:39 | yuck | |
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16:00 | wajasu | wizzyrea++ |
16:01 | chris_n++ | |
16:01 | my zebra is blushing | |
16:01 | wizzyrea | hehe |
16:01 | wajasu | it worked. |
16:04 | when I import with 952$8REF (i.e. ccode=REF), i look in items.ccode and only see null's, FIC and NFIC, but no REF. | |
16:05 | i tried advanced search with limit = Reference and no results. | |
16:05 | do I need to set a marc to koha mapping, or make a new framework? | |
16:06 | wizzyrea | try the 1st marc/koha mapping |
16:06 | wajasu | to get 952$8 indexed, or to get items.ccode filled in? |
16:06 | ok | |
16:07 | * wizzyrea | is not an indexing guru, I just know where to look |
16:09 | wajasu | i looked at the koha to marc mapping and 965$8 looks like its mapped in this default framework. |
16:10 | the question is, should i be getting REF in my items.ccode when 952$8 is REF? | |
16:11 | or is this a field used for nozebra mode? | |
16:11 | and I need to look to zebra indexing (i.e. export...952$8) | |
16:12 | kf | $8 is an authorized calue |
16:12 | value | |
16:12 | i REF defined in auth value LOC? | |
16:13 | wajasu | i thought it was CCODE? |
16:13 | kf | in the database ist items.ccode |
16:13 | wajasu | its confusing because I have REF in CCODE, LOC, and itemtypes. |
16:13 | kf | there the code is saved and a description for the code is in auth value |
16:13 | LOC | |
16:13 | ah sorry | |
16:13 | its CCODE | |
16:13 | LOC ist for $c | |
16:15 | * kf | got a bit confused while reading marc records |
16:17 | wajasu | i put REF in $c as well when I built my import records. |
16:22 | kf | hm I think you shoudl find out why it did not get imported as ccode - is it still present in marcxml? |
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16:23 | kf | koha is case sensitive there - REF and ref might cause problems |
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16:26 | wajasu | you mean the marcxml that gets exported? |
16:27 | kf | hm not sure - I would look in biblio/biblioitem?.marcxml first |
16:27 | you said RED is not in items.ccode | |
16:27 | REF | |
16:27 | perhaps someone else can help you better | |
16:28 | its time for me to go home now | |
16:29 | im sorry | |
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16:33 | wajasu | no problem. you gave me a lead. |
16:33 | thx | |
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16:46 | wajasu | i found a bug in my program that massages my import marc records. koha is fine. |
16:47 | wizzyrea | whew what a relief ;) |
16:47 | man, don't you just love it when you have a problem, and it turns out to be the people, and not the system. | |
16:47 | </sarcasm> | |
16:48 | erm, unrelated to your issue, wajasu | |
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17:15 | chris_n | another LLEK limitation |
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17:21 | owen | Did we improve on LLEK by doubling the hard-coded limit? ;) |
17:21 | miguel-xercode | hi all |
17:21 | one question | |
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17:24 | miguel-xercode | its possible use in koha to use a domain by adding /koha1 /koha2 |
17:25 | * owen | imagines a script that would automatically file a bug for every FIXME in Koha's code |
17:26 | chris_n | owen: nice |
17:26 | gmcharlt | owen: only if that script can translate to FIXME notes into something that makes sense ;) |
17:26 | chris_n | miguel-xercode: do you mean run multiple koha installs on a single box? |
17:31 | hmm... "grep -rhc FIXME * | perl -lpe '${_{_}}+=+${_}}{${_}+=+${_{_}}'" from the root of my repo reports 643 FIXME's | |
17:32 | * chris_n | declines to answer questions about that bit of obfuscation as it was stolen from perlmonks.org |
17:33 | * owen | has never understood the use of FIXMEs...at least not ones without accompanying bug reports |
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17:35 | miguel-xercode | not the case, though, too. I refer that in very generic domain like a great institution, to use a proxy through using these types of url. |
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17:50 | chris_n | miguel-xercode: I would think that would be a function of whatever reverse proxy one was running |
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18:36 | chris | morning |
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18:39 | chris_n | hi chris |
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19:34 | richard | hi |
19:35 | chris_n | howdy richard |
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19:42 | wajasu | the legacy database i am migrating had some records that are marked as RESERVE. I translated those to notforloan in 952$7. |
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19:42 | wajasu | i don't have a ccode for Reserved. |
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19:43 | wajasu | i see a table called reserves. should i be somehow getting my imports in there? |
19:44 | are reserves holds? | |
19:44 | (i.e. the same?) | |
19:45 | chris | yes |
19:46 | wajasu | so when a person puts a hold on a book, it mean to hold it for them until they come to pick it up. (though the table is called reserves). |
19:47 | And my librarian must use the term Reserved, to mean not for loan. | |
19:48 | chris | yes |
19:48 | in nz ppl call them reserves | |
19:48 | hence the table being called reserves | |
19:48 | wajasu | ahh |
19:50 | it seems that if i somehow configure another libraries z3950 server, when i search, can i get their books in the results also? | |
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19:54 | chris | no |
19:54 | but you can search them when you are cataloguing | |
19:55 | if you want to search more than one Z39.50 server in something like the opac, you would have to do some work setting up pazpar2 and getting koha to search that (which in turn searches any number of targets) | |
19:56 | the existing Z39.50 search function is just for searching when you are cataloguing items so you can import a catalogue record rather than typing it all in yourself | |
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19:59 | wajasu | i see the "All libraries" option in the advanced search for staff client. lib of congress is enabled in the x3950 servers. how do i get it to query other servers? |
20:00 | Advanced search --> Location and Availability section | |
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21:32 | CGI018 | hello? |
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21:33 | CGI018 | hello? |
21:33 | anyone? | |
21:33 | newbie here :-) | |
21:39 | larsw | hi there |
21:39 | I am a newbie myself | |
21:40 | CGI018 | geez :) |
21:40 | where be the experts | |
21:41 | how new are you, larsw? | |
21:41 | wizzyrea | < not an expert, but not really a nub |
21:41 | * wizzyrea | can try to help |
21:41 | wizzyrea | what's up |
21:41 | CGI018 | awesome |
21:41 | thanks, wizzyrea | |
21:41 | i have a question right now | |
21:41 | wizzyrea | shoot |
21:43 | * wizzyrea | should mention that she has to go in 20 minutes |
21:43 | CGI018 | i'm going over the Implementation Checklist and under OPAC Config, it says one should turn off OpacPasswordChange if using LADP authentication |
21:43 | idk what that really means | |
21:44 | wizzyrea | are you using LDAP for patron authentication? |
21:44 | CGI018 | idk |
21:44 | that's the thing | |
21:44 | who can i ask | |
21:44 | wizzyrea | example: do you have a server somewhere that controls all of your authentication services across your network? |
21:44 | the IT people, likely | |
21:44 | I'm guessing (only a guess) that you can ignore this statement | |
21:44 | CGI018 | ok, i'll have to do that |
21:45 | wizzyrea | are you having a specific problem? |
21:45 | related to logging into the OPAC? | |
21:45 | or just going through the checklist | |
21:45 | (and where did you find this checklist, if I may ask) | |
21:45 | CGI018 | going through checlist and making decisions as i go along |
21:45 | wizzyrea | ah |
21:46 | CGI018 | it's part of the koha documentation |
21:46 | http://koha.org/documentation/[…]ntation-checklist | |
21:48 | wizzyrea | i would not worry about LDAP until you know whether or not you are actually using it |
21:48 | CGI018 | thanks, i've made a note to ask the IT people just in case |
21:48 | wizzyrea | how big is your library? |
21:48 | CGI018 | tiny |
21:48 | wizzyrea | then no, you probably aren't running it |
21:48 | CGI018 | tiny academic |
21:49 | wizzyrea | but, academics... mayb eyou are |
21:49 | hard to say | |
21:49 | CGI018 | did you configure your koha ils yourself? |
21:49 | wizzyrea | I have done it, yes |
21:49 | but not with LDAP | |
21:50 | and so you know, the real official koha site is at koha-community.org | |
21:50 | it's the one that's actually up to date | |
21:50 | moodaepo | wizzyrea: someone should add that link to irc welcome banner! |
21:51 | wizzyrea | someone would have to have operator to do that :( |
21:51 | * moodaepo | wonders if wizzyrea has that access : ) |
21:51 | wizzyrea | I do not :( |
21:51 | moodaepo | ah so you don't : ( |
21:51 | man I need to learn to type looking at the screen! | |
21:52 | wizzyrea | but you probably want to tell any 'CGIXXX' users that they are looking at the wrong site |
21:52 | moodaepo | Do you know who does? gmcharlt? |
21:53 | CGI018 | oh boy thanks for that info |
21:53 | i'll bookmark it now | |
21:54 | wizzyrea | there aren't any ops online right now |
21:54 | afaik the only ones who have it work at katipo | |
21:54 | k-c has a nicer IRC interface, as well | |
21:54 | that lets you choose your nick | |
21:54 | ;) | |
21:56 | CGI018 | thanks for your help, wizzyrea |
21:56 | wizzyrea | one caveat about k-c: not all of the content has been moved, it's still in process, or being reworked, or... but koha-community.org is the site that is and will be maintained |
21:56 | sure thing. Pop back again sometime and let us know how it works out :) | |
21:56 | larsw | chris tells me no one is an op, and the way to get someone to become an op is for everyone to leave and then someone to re-create the channel |
21:56 | CGI018 | certainly |
21:56 | till next time | |
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21:57 | wizzyrea | bogus. lol |
21:57 | moodaepo | larsw: really! no way |
21:57 | wizzyrea | :) |
21:57 | that is certainly one way to do it | |
21:57 | larsw | I don't know how things work here, I do know that's how it works (or worked years ago) on the original ircnet |
21:57 | chris | its the way irc works, you cant op someone if you aren't an op, and the last op disconnected |
21:57 | before opping anyone else | |
21:57 | moodaepo | ok who is lying to the nooob? |
21:57 | larsw | some irc networks have chanserv, which takes care of keeping channels and op status alive |
21:57 | wizzyrea | on freenode if you are the owner of the channel you can op yourself |
21:58 | what he said | |
21:58 | but not this one, apparently | |
21:58 | chris | yeah cos there is a bot running to do that |
21:58 | wizzyrea | we need to op a bot |
21:58 | chris | well to do that we need ops ;) |
21:58 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
21:58 | larsw | freenode has a chanserv, this network does not seem to have one |
21:59 | wizzyrea | and we can't kick anybody... because we don't have ops! |
21:59 | moodaepo | Is there a official Koha pastebin type site? Or one that is usually used? |
21:59 | larsw | this is all very democratic now |
21:59 | wizzyrea | ah, there is paste.workbuffer.org that ppls use |
21:59 | i think that's the URL anyway | |
21:59 | * wizzyrea | is feeling kind of dumb today |
22:00 | chris | yep theres that |
22:00 | or you can use koha.pastebin.com | |
22:00 | larsw | shouldn't matter which pastebin one users, though? |
22:00 | chris | nope |
22:00 | wizzyrea | nah |
22:00 | one minute! | |
22:00 | chris | paste.workbuffer.org has a bot associated |
22:01 | * larsw | sees alohabot |
22:01 | wizzyrea | ok... off to get my kiddo. ttyl :) |
22:01 | pastebot | "chris" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "see" (1 line) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/25 |
22:01 | wizzyrea is now known as wizzyrea_home | |
22:02 | moodaepo | I'm a fan of this type of header > "Official Koha Channel | http://koha-community.org/ | 3.0.5 & 3.2 Alpha | http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ | Large Pastes @ http://paste.workbuffer.org/" |
22:03 | @weather 56001 | |
22:03 | munin` | moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is 14.3�C (5:02 PM CDT on March 23, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Rising). |
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22:22 | chris | moodaepo: yep, cant do a thing about it currently |
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23:16 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
23:16 | munin` | chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 17.6�C (7:14 PM EDT on March 23, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 13%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Pressure: 29.47 in 997.9 hPa (Rising). |
23:16 | * chris_n | wonders why he is inside on such a beautiful evening |
23:16 | chris_n | off to fix that problem ;-) |
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