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03:37 | Amit_G | heya chirs |
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04:59 | Nouman | hi everybody |
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05:03 | Nouman | Good morning |
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05:54 | mib_pconsc | hi all |
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06:28 | Nouman | Hi all |
06:29 | when will latest windows version of koha will release | |
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07:03 | Amit_G | hi nicomo |
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07:06 | CGI723 | Hi anyone knoweldgeable about Koha basics? |
07:06 | nicomo | Hi Amit_G |
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13:05 | jdavidb | mornin', #koha. |
13:07 | gmcharlt | good morning and good night |
13:07 | jwagner | and good afternoon |
13:10 | hdl_laptop | hi |
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13:17 | jdavidb | howdy, owen. |
13:17 | owen | Happy Monday all |
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13:32 | schuster | hey all... rainy Monday but at least it is above 50 degrees! |
13:38 | jwagner | we have sun, but your rain is due here about Wednesday :-( |
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14:23 | * jdavidb | peers quizzically at "alohabot" and wonders what it is supposed to do. |
14:24 | jdavidb | @quote random |
14:24 | munin | jdavidb: Quote #35: "<sekjal> it seemed like a good idea at the time...." (added by jwagner at 02:58 PM, September 17, 2009) |
14:24 | jwagner | There's your answer.... |
14:25 | * jdavidb | chuckles. |
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14:26 | sekjal | well, it did... |
14:26 | chris_n | g'morning |
14:26 | sekjal | good morning, chris_n |
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14:29 | sekjal | morning, brendan |
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14:31 | brendan | morning sekjal |
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14:52 | magnus | google tells me i should search for "alohabob" instead of "alohabot"... |
14:57 | chris_n | it appears to belong to the folks in NZland |
14:59 | gmcharlt | alohabot: help |
15:00 | just guessing... | |
15:00 | @later tell masonj is alohabot yours? | |
15:00 | munin | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
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15:43 | sekjal | morning, nengard! |
15:44 | nengard | hiya!! |
15:46 | wizzyrea | how was that brutal commute, sekjal? ;) |
15:46 | sekjal | I got pretty tired near the kitchen, and had to stop for coffee, but I made it. ::whew:: |
15:47 | wizzyrea | was wondering if the traffic report included such gems as "there is a cat stalled in the sunbeam near the foyer, causing delays due to petting" |
15:47 | <insert your pet of choice> | |
15:48 | sekjal | wizzyrea: they ARE stalled out in sunbeams. there are lots of windows here, and the weather is gorgeous |
15:48 | moodaepo | wizzyrea: > http://www.39online.com/news/l[…]y,0,5339879.story |
15:49 | No petting though | |
15:51 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: sekjal: the life of a telecomutter has unexpected trials and travails ;) |
15:51 | er, especially when the 'mutter meets the kitties | |
15:52 | * jwagner | thinks the solution is not to have kitties, but is aware that some people don't agree with that :-) |
15:53 | * gmcharlt | thinks that's a very silly suggestion |
15:54 | * moodaepo | just realized the nature of sekjal's commute do'h |
15:55 | * collum | thinks that if it wasn't for kitties the family structure would collapse. |
15:55 | nengard | wizzyrea - that sounds like my commute!! dodging little dogs that are trying to get underfoot :) |
15:55 | wizzyrea | hehe |
15:55 | sekjal | after 2.5 hours each way, this is like a dream. I look forward to the day when it all averages out to less than 30 minutes |
15:57 | gmcharlt | moodaepo: drat - that means we don't get to regale you with tales of the man-eating Maine Coons bedevilling the streets where sekjal lives ;) |
15:57 | moodaepo | gmcharlt++ # that line sounds like something from Twain : ) |
15:58 | nengard | am I the only one who missed the newest OCLC drama? |
15:59 | gmcharlt | nengard: there's been both private and public sides to it |
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15:59 | nengard | I'm just trying to catch up on it all |
15:59 | gmcharlt | the public side has been blogged about for a week or so, although not heavily |
15:59 | nengard | I'm not sure I understand yet |
15:59 | gmcharlt | for the private side, somebody is apparently sending anonymous emails to a bunch of people complaining about the salaries of the OCLC trustees |
16:00 | sekjal | I've missed a lot this last week; there's OCLC drama? |
16:00 | nengard | sekjal http://www.libraryjournal.com/[…]le/CA6720609.html |
16:00 | sekjal | nengard: thanks! |
16:00 | nengard | & http://freerangelibrarian.com/[…]-easy-being-oclc/ |
16:00 | the 2 sides of the story | |
16:01 | paul_p | hello #world |
16:01 | gmcharlt | sekjal: also see a couple posts on the front page of http://kcoyle.blogspot.com/ |
16:02 | sekjal | thank, gmcharlt and nengard. hello, paul_p |
16:14 | pastebot | "nengard" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "errors" (5 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/14 |
16:14 | nengard | can anyone help with these errors? |
16:14 | I fetched on Friday and rebased and now i see this when i try to get to my koha install | |
16:16 | gmcharlt | nengard: at first glance, it just appears that mysqld is not running |
16:17 | nengard | k - and how would get that up and running again? |
16:17 | cause I didn't turn it off :) | |
16:17 | gmcharlt | nengard: first, check by doing ps -ef | grep mysqld |
16:17 | nengard | nengard 2011 1939 0 06:20 pts/0 00:00:00 grep mysqld |
16:18 | gmcharlt | k, it's definitely gone |
16:18 | so do | |
16:18 | sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start | |
16:18 | nengard | /etc/init.d/mysql: ERROR: The partition with /var/lib/mysql is too full! failed! |
16:18 | uh oh! | |
16:18 | wizzyrea | lol |
16:18 | nengard | :) |
16:19 | wizzyrea | oops |
16:19 | gmcharlt | nengard: df -k |
16:19 | * jdavidb | hates it when that happens. |
16:19 | nengard | gmcharlt - what are we looking for on that? I don't want to paste it all |
16:20 | gmcharlt | how your filesystem is laid out - whether it's spread out across mutliple disks, or allocating everything to / |
16:21 | pastebot | "nengard" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "disk" (10 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/15 |
16:21 | nengard | looks spread out to me |
16:22 | jdavidb | very. |
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16:25 | nengard | k - so what do I do? do I give it more space do i delete temp files? i'm using virtualbox - if that matters |
16:25 | gmcharlt | nengard: it should help - you can allocate more disk to the VM |
16:26 | jdavidb | you might also look for excess junk in /var. /var/log, for one, can accumulate a lot of stuff after a while. purging old logs might be useful. |
16:26 | gmcharlt | yep |
16:26 | nengard | jdavidb - are there any logs I would need to keep? |
16:27 | gmcharlt | although 1.1 GB is rather little space for /var unless your laptop doesn't have any more free disk space |
16:27 | nengard | it has plenty of space |
16:28 | jdavidb | Normally, the system will zip 'em up after a couple of days, so you could delete the *.gz files you find there in a pinch. But I'm with gmcharlt--give it more room. |
16:28 | gmcharlt | nengard: try cd /var; du -k -s * |
16:28 | that will give you an indicate of which directories are taking up the most space | |
16:29 | pastebot | "nengard" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "cd /var; sudo du -k -s *" (14 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/17 |
16:29 | nengard | is there a way with virtualbox to re-allocate space? |
16:29 | i'm looking now - but if someone knows :) | |
16:30 | gmcharlt | plenty of stuff under /var/log to delete |
16:30 | nengard | heck yeah there is!!! |
16:30 | just wanted to know if there was anything that has to stay in there - if not i'll empty it | |
16:30 | gmcharlt | I'd start with deleting anything that has a *.gz extension in /var/log/apache2 |
16:31 | don't wipe, but any file that has name of the form foo.log.number.gz should be safe to delete | |
16:32 | nengard | can't get into the apache2 folder - permissions denied - but i do have *.gz files in the log folder I can remove |
16:33 | bleh can't remove anything permission denied .... hmmmm | |
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16:33 | nengard | they are owned by adm - but i don't know who adm is |
16:33 | gmcharlt | nengard: sudo rm name_of_file.gz |
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16:35 | nengard | woo hoo |
16:35 | nengarddebian:/var/log$ sudo /etc/init.d/mysql startStarting MySQL database server: mysqld .. | |
16:35 | now i'm going to add more space to it anyway | |
16:35 | thanks guys!! | |
16:36 | gmcharlt | ok, looks like resizing the disk may not be an option in virtualbox |
16:37 | so simplest thing to do would be to add another virtual disk to the VM | |
16:37 | mount it as a new filesystem in Debian | |
16:39 | then move the mysql datafiles there and create a symlink from /var/lib/mysql to the new filesystem | |
16:39 | nengard | gmcharlt - yeah - was just reading the same thing - can't change disk space |
16:40 | as for what you're suggesting I do - I'm not sure I know how to do that on my own - I had Chris walk me through the entire setup of Koha on virtualbox - and now I have manual writing to do | |
16:40 | so I'll keep an eye on it for now | |
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17:25 | brendan | @weather 93117 |
17:25 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 13.5�C (9:22 AM PST on March 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Steady). |
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17:38 | schuster | @weather 75035 |
17:38 | munin | schuster: The current temperature in Stonebrook, Frisco, Texas is 13.9�C (11:37 AM CST on March 08, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Falling). |
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17:39 | schuster | Looks like we are about the same! cloudy with a chance of rain... getting hungry meatballs would be better... |
17:39 | brendan | chance_of_meatballs++ |
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17:42 | moodaepo | @weather 56001 |
17:42 | munin | moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is 2.3�C (11:41 AM CST on March 08, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Steady). |
17:43 | sekjal | @weather 01060 |
17:43 | munin | sekjal: The current temperature in Haydenville Center, Haydenville, Massachusetts is 10.6�C (12:41 PM EST on March 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 24%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Falling). |
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17:48 | theraphos | hi |
17:49 | I am 93D0!!!!!!! | |
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18:03 | CGI930 | Hi! |
18:06 | Just a simple question: I wish to export bibliographic and holding data via command line. I saw the 2.8 section on manual to do this via web | |
18:07 | Also on a FAQ I'd found "There are also command-line utilities for import/export if you prefer those.", but I couldn't find this script, only for import (bulkmarkimport.pl) but not for export | |
18:14 | I couldn't find anything on /usr/share/koha/bin... | |
18:18 | schuster | Can someone else tell me or check this? When I look at Inventory and I select a library they are not in alpha order - ... I havn't updated in a few days so wanted to check before I do a bug. |
18:22 | nengard | schuster - you are right |
18:22 | they are not in order | |
18:30 | schuster | OK bug here I come. |
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18:31 | Ropuch | Evening #koha |
18:34 | sekjal | hello, Ropuch |
18:34 | schuster | Also in looking at the "locations" for shelving I see Book Cart 4 times and Processing 4 times. |
18:38 | Bywater - link to staff interface isn't working on koha-community.org ...? | |
18:39 | opac link doesn't work either??? | |
18:40 | jwagner about? | |
18:41 | Must be out getting ready to splash in the puddles ... | |
18:41 | lunch mmmm... | |
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18:47 | juan-xercode | hi |
18:48 | we got an error in koha that is in 3.2 version | |
18:48 | when we are cataloging, and push Save | |
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18:49 | juan-xercode | when the interface to save items appears, if we push inmediately "add item", this item will not be indexed |
18:51 | i put a new field in zebraqueue, "xml" to see when the function mark_done (zebraqueue_daemon.pl) it saves the xml that is indexed | |
18:51 | and no item appears in this xml | |
18:51 | we put other field, a timestamp (on update) to see what happens first, if the zebraqueue or the update in biblioitems | |
18:52 | and all its ok, but the item is not indexed in zebra | |
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19:08 | chris_n | juan-xercode: you need to run misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -z |
19:08 | as your kohauser | |
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19:20 | juan-xercode | yes, but this is a fix for now, but we can not do it in all of the libraries where it crashes |
19:22 | i dont know what it happens, we have a library where it crashes all the times, and in a Local Koha only sometimes, but it is hard to see it | |
19:24 | i will continue to see it tomorrow, | |
19:24 | bye and thank you | |
19:31 | wizzyrea | nengard: the business dir plugin doesn't like MU |
19:31 | nengard | hmm |
19:31 | chris_n | juan-xercode: you will have to setup a cron job to run it at regular intervals on production machines |
19:34 | wizzyrea | i have a request in with the developers but who knows if they'll fix it |
19:34 | nengard | wizzyrea - http://businessdirectory.squar[…]leased-v08-5beta/ |
19:34 | says it works on MU | |
19:34 | wizzyrea | yea, but it doesn't |
19:34 | nengard | bleh |
19:34 | wizzyrea | fatal error |
19:34 | nengard | thought maybe you had a wrong version -- oh well |
19:35 | wizzyrea | nope |
19:35 | I have two comments on that post saying "hey, it's busted in MU" | |
19:35 | with details | |
19:35 | but they're pending moderation | |
19:37 | nengard | hmm |
19:38 | wizzyrea | wouldn't worry about it... we'll figure something out |
19:39 | i'im convinced that any way we do it someone won't like, might as well wait and get it as close to right as possible. | |
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19:41 | nengard | yup |
19:42 | agreed | |
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19:53 | richard | hi |
20:09 | owen | schuster still around? |
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20:32 | schuster | Howdy - texas drawl |
20:32 | Owen what's up? | |
20:33 | owen | Your bug about shelving locations... Did you check your authorized values? |
20:33 | I think you probably just have duplicates there. I did. | |
20:33 | I suspect there was an updatedatabase somewhere along the line that incorrectly duplicated some | |
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20:42 | schuster | I'll check the shelving locations again, but I thought I had and there wasn't anything there. Let me go back. |
20:45 | Ah yes loc - not CCODE... I always think Library of Congress and can't figure out why that is there! But still a problem... | |
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20:48 | wizzyrea | ok, I have a hypothetical for you |
20:48 | lets say you have a bunch of libraries | |
20:48 | placing holds from opac and staff client | |
20:48 | items getting checked in and out | |
20:49 | schuster | With ya so far wizzyrea. |
20:49 | wizzyrea | would bad response time from the server cause anomalies with the holds functions? |
20:49 | schuster | That's usually what happens in libraries... ;) |
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20:49 | wizzyrea | a la schusters problem with the checkins not happening under high load conditions |
20:49 | schuster's* | |
20:50 | schuster | Was the item actually checked in or is it still checked out so the hold wasn't triggered? |
20:50 | wizzyrea | well it looks like it was checked in, and it shows the "hold alert" |
20:50 | and you can click the button | |
20:50 | and something happens | |
20:50 | but our holds queues are BIZARRE | |
20:51 | not just the lists, the actual hold queues on specific bibs | |
20:51 | and it's only started in the last few weeks | |
20:51 | mind you, we have no new code | |
20:51 | (that we know of) | |
20:51 | * wizzyrea | grumbles about that |
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20:52 | schuster | We did see that if you click ignore on a first available copy it does strange things... |
20:52 | wizzyrea | yes, i've noticed that too |
20:52 | but I can't blame everything on that | |
20:52 | and this isn't 3.2 | |
20:52 | schuster | Your copy goes to available - but the hold may never get queued again. |
20:52 | Right LL 3.0.x | |
20:53 | I have not played with holds yet on 3.2... Still in testing mode on several things. | |
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20:55 | wizzyrea | well the 3.2 holds are still a bit funky |
20:55 | I have high hopes though | |
20:56 | not sure they could be worse than what we're dealing with now though | |
20:56 | * wizzyrea | looks for a rope and a high precipice |
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21:52 | rhcl | So is there no open source version of WorldCat? |
21:52 | brendan | @weather 93117 |
21:52 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 18.7�C (1:49 PM PST on March 08, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Falling). |
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22:08 | schuster | rhcl - no - Biblios is as close as it gets, but it is a little buggy |
22:08 | biblios.net | |
22:08 | wizzyrea | and don't try biblios with FF 3.6 |
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22:11 | richard | what are the implications of turnign IndependentBranches on after a Koha has gone into production? |
22:12 | rhcl | Well, I done it anyway (checked the site w/ FF3.6), and nothing exploded, but I assume you ment logging in and doing something, which I didn't do. |
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22:24 | schuster | richard - from my understanding it doesn't share patron data I am unsure how it deals with bibs and items. |
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22:25 | richard | ah cool. thanks |
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