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chris_n |
@wunder 28334 |
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munin |
chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 5.0�C (7:01 PM EST on February 18, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Falling). |
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chris_n |
wb gmcharlt |
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gmcharlt |
hi chris_n |
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chris_n |
cats tripping over your network cable? |
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gmcharlt |
sorry for bouncing in and out, setting up a proxy |
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chris_n |
;) |
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gmcharlt |
alas, no kitties in my hotel room |
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brendan |
@locate gmcharlt |
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munin |
brendan: Error: "locate" is not a valid command. |
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brendan |
bummer |
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* gmcharlt |
thinks that every hotel ought to come with a cat or two |
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gmcharlt |
brendan: Norcross this week |
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brendan |
:) |
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* collum_ |
would be glad to lend his cat. But it doesn't bounce. It plops. |
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chris_n |
hehe |
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gmcharlt |
as does one of mine :) |
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/g[…]2157602776641761/ |
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braedon|work |
chris: do you have 2(possibly 3?) buzz profiles? |
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collum_ |
:) |
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chris |
who knows, ive never looked |
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braedon|work |
do you have multiple gmail accounts? |
| 00:18 |
chris |
one hosted and one @gmail |
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braedon|work |
three "Chris Cormack"s come up |
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chilts |
would the real Chris please stand up? |
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chris |
i never use the @gmail one |
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cepting to login to the kohacon site |
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braedon|work |
two "Senior Developer at Catalyst - Wellington," - One "New Zealand", the other "NZ" |
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chris |
yeah it grabs stuff from everywhere |
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braedon|work |
it doesn't seem to want to give me the associated email addresses, without following |
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chris |
(buzz does) |
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like linkedin, friendfeed, knol, etc |
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braedon|work |
is this you? http://www.chriscormack.com/ |
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chris |
no |
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braedon|work |
:) |
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just thought i would check |
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chris |
http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/ is me |
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http://nz.linkedin.com/in/chriscormack <-- that too |
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braedon|work |
no double life as a photographer? |
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chris |
nope :) |
| 00:25 |
braedon|work |
ahh, this one looks better http://www.google.com/profiles[…]488836096108#buzz |
| 00:26 |
chris |
that looks atbout right |
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chris |
@quote random |
| 00:49 |
munin |
chris: Quote #54: "<@gmcharlt> from my POV, bug wrangling expands to fill all available volunteers" (added by jwagner at 03:05 PM, February 09, 2010) |
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chris_n |
bad news in Georgia for koha: http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin[…]ebra-Atlanta.html |
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chris |
heh |
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gmcharlt |
darn - missed it, and I was even in the area, more or less :) |
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chris_n |
I figure they just should have called you galen |
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;) |
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richard |
wcl? |
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oops |
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chris |
heh |
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no ib in here |
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richard |
sometimes i just forget ;) |
| 01:35 |
ebegin |
OT: 2-1 Canada-Switzerland Men Ice Hockey |
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russ |
that is much closer than the womens game |
| 01:37 |
ebegin |
russ, Oh yes... |
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Doh! 2-2... :\ |
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* gmcharlt |
is willing to bet that the WHOLE REST OF THE WORLD is getting better coverage of the Olympics than we are in the US |
| 02:00 |
chris |
im betting so |
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we have 4 channels dedicated to it |
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on my cable plan |
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brendan |
yeah US coverage is usually very horrible |
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I'm in the same time zone but I can't see finishes of races until about 4 hours after they are done |
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cya all later :) |
| 02:02 |
chris |
cya later |
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chris_n |
bye |
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brendan |
@quote random |
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munin |
brendan: Quote #22: "<jdavidb> owen: you wouldn't know this, being the skinny thing you are, but it is also good for maintaining a panoramic physique, like mine." (added by gmcharlt at 12:24 PM, August 06, 2009) |
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chris_n |
lol |
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panoramic... that is hilarious :-O |
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brendan |
heh yup |
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heya chris_n |
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how goes it |
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chris_n |
great |
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brendan |
awesome |
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chris_n |
how about yourself? |
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brendan |
good SUI-CAN hockey game on |
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2-2 overtime |
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chris_n |
any broken sticks yet? |
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or heads? |
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brendan |
seen some Canadians with black eyes |
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and pretty smiles |
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chris_n |
man t/Dates.t still blows chunks |
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brendan |
heh |
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chunks-- |
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gmcharlt |
chris_n: is it failing for you? |
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chris_n |
# Testing Legacy Functions: format_date and format_date_in_iso |
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# |
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Illegal date specified (year = 1952, month = 1, day = 0) at t/Dates.t line 62 |
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Illegal date specified (year = 1952, month = 1, day = 00) at t/Dates.t line 62 |
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Illegal date specified (year = 1952, month = 1, day = 00) at t/Dates.t line 65 |
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opps |
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my bad |
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* chris_n |
needs 'SHOULD' to be in flashing red type |
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brendan |
wow shootouts for hockey |
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Amit |
hi all |
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chris_n |
heya Amit |
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Amit |
heya chris_n, chris |
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CGI933 |
hi all |
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I have following problem in FAST index |
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nouman lumhs-b70715be2:/usr/share/koha$ bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -w14:12:37-17/02 zebraidx(17858) [warn] zebra_lock_create fail fname=/var/lock/koha/zebradb/biblios/norm..LCK [Permission denied]14:12:37-17/02 zebraidx(17858) [warn] zebra_lock_create fail fname=/var/lock/koha/zebradb/biblios/shadow..LCK [Permission denied]14:12:37-17/02 zebraidx(17858) [fatal] Could not select database biblios errCode=109 |
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CGI933 |
is any one help me? |
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noumanlumhs-b70715be2:/usr/share/koha$ bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -w14:12:37-17/02 zebraidx(17858) [warn] zebra_lock_create fail fname=/var/lock/koha/zebradb/biblios/norm..LCK [Permission denied]14:12:37-17/02 zebraidx(17858) [warn] zebra_lock_create fail fname=/var/lock/koha/zebradb/biblios/shadow..LCK [Permission denied]14:12:37-17/02 zebraidx(17858) [fatal] Could not select database biblios errCode=109 |
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? |
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. |
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could any one help me? |
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htaccess |
chris: forked your github |
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looks like theres plenty of fun for a janitor |
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whats the coding style url? |
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i see plenty of cuddled elses and _lots_ of tabs |
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jairuz |
i recently installed koha 2.2.5 'coz i have no luck migrating our data from 2.2.3 to 3.0. |
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my problem is i cant access the librarian module of koha |
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jairuz |
what could be the problem? |
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chris |
htaccess: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]:codingguidelines |
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htaccess |
chris: ive been having a look, we should have a chat about howto approcach things |
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like should i do a commit for _all_ trailing whitespace? |
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but theres loys of stuff |
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lots of this: $itemdata=GetItem($itemnumber); |
| 06:21 |
chris |
yeah |
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htaccess |
but in general it looks fun |
| 06:21 |
chris |
cool |
| 06:21 |
htaccess |
pretty much it looks like you need a janitor :) |
| 06:22 |
chris |
maybe we should organise a little irc meeting, or put it on the agenda for the next general irc meeting, be good to get Colin (the QA manager) and Galen (current release manager) involved in the discussion |
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htaccess |
yea i would like to have a mandate to do x |
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and then i will go do x |
| 06:23 |
chris |
*nod* |
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* chris |
looks up when the next meeting is |
| 06:23 |
htaccess |
but after a quick look it seems therre is plenty of x to do |
| 06:23 |
chris |
http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]etingnotes10mar03 |
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march 3, ill put it on the agenda for then |
| 06:24 |
htaccess |
cool |
| 06:26 |
chris |
there we go, it's on the agenda now |
| 06:27 |
htaccess |
chris: after having a look about I _so_ want to be a koha janitor |
| 06:27 |
chris |
:) |
| 06:27 |
htaccess |
but yea you need a mandate |
| 06:28 |
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but file at random: koha/tools/batchMod.pl |
| 06:28 |
chris |
yep |
| 06:29 |
htaccess |
do you have a name convention? |
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filname |
| 06:29 |
chris |
not a strict one, actually thats a good point |
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http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]odingguidelines&s[]=coding&s[]=guidelines#to_be_decided |
| 06:30 |
htaccess |
file-name vs file_name of fileName |
| 06:30 |
chris |
if you want you could add that to the to be decided section, and cast a vote one way or the other |
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i prefer file_name |
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chris |
but could live with any of them |
| 06:33 |
htaccess |
well theres plenty of cleanup to do within files so ill leave that |
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chris |
yeah, theres certainly no shortage |
| 06:40 |
Ropuch |
Morning #koha |
| 06:41 |
chris |
hi Ropuch, how's poland today? |
| 06:43 |
Ropuch |
Well, not bad |
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It's quite warm |
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And how's NZ? |
| 06:44 |
chris |
nice weather today, and its friday evening, so all good |
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* chris_n |
heads off to sleep |
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chris_n |
g'night |
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what's left of it anyway |
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| 08:11 |
chris |
interesting |
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http://www.kohails.org/ |
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and by interesting i mean very disappointing |
| 08:12 |
chilts |
hmm, by PTFS too ... not good |
| 08:13 |
chris |
well yeah, that was the original reason they werent listed, then the fixed it, .. step backwards |
| 08:15 |
magnus |
ooops... |
| 08:16 |
chris |
yeah, fairly recent change, it used to redirect to koha.org .. they must have just changed it |
| 08:17 |
paul_p |
hi world. |
| 08:18 |
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koha.ptfs is still here & points to koha.ptfs.com |
| 08:18 |
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oups. I mean : still here & still the same content |
| 08:20 |
chris |
yep, thats fine, we said that was ok |
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it was kohaconsultants.com and kohails.org that we said shouldnt point to that |
| 08:21 |
magnus |
hm, could it be a slip of the apache config? |
| 08:21 |
chris |
kohaconsultants.com still redirects to koha.org .. kohails.org no longer does |
| 08:21 |
paul_p |
magnus: yes it is (apache config) |
| 08:21 |
chris |
might be, so far my emails have been ignored |
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so someone else might want to email and ask if htey could fix it up please |
| 08:22 |
magnus |
someone from hlt, perhaps? |
| 08:22 |
paul_p |
chris not sure it's a good idea. it's harmless imho, and we are in the middle of a strategic path. |
| 08:22 |
chris |
its harmless? |
| 08:22 |
magnus |
might be taken more seriously than if it comes from a competitor? |
| 08:22 |
chris |
what the hell did we complain for the first time then? |
| 08:23 |
paul_p |
chris: OK, more details : |
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there are 2 known koha strategies today : the "community" one, and the "LibLime" one. For PTFS we don't know what are they plan. |
| 08:24 |
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if we upset them, we may finish with 3 path, the "PTFS one". |
| 08:24 |
chris |
sure, but if it was a mistake they could fix it pretty easy |
| 08:24 |
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if it wasnt a mistake, we see their strategy already |
| 08:24 |
paul_p |
and in this case, we have strictly NO WAY to prevent them to use kohails of whatever they want. |
| 08:24 |
chris |
of course we dont |
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but i do find it interesting they have just recently changed it |
| 08:26 |
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im not making the same mistake we made with liblime |
| 08:26 |
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im not prepared to wait for years while they make a mess |
| 08:26 |
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if someone is going to be hostile, we should move on sooner rather than later |
| 08:27 |
paul_p |
I suspect J Yokley is already "annoyed" by what happends with the acquisition. He is willing to speak with us (BibLibre), I would be disappointed if I meet someone saying : "you're all mad in koha project : LL & everybody else. You're annoying me with very minor details. So, I'll do my path myself, good bye" |
| 08:27 |
chris |
frankly thats his call |
| 08:31 |
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and i dont see it as a reason for me to stop commenting |
| 08:31 |
paul_p |
don't misunderstand me : the url problem is a real one. But sometimes it's better to create a good relationship before saying "hey, you made a mistake". At KohaCon, all the ppl we met from PTFS were nice, friendly and we had frankly discussion with them. So, I think instead we should avoid "firing" at JY and try the "friendly" approach. (and the business one : definetly, he's a business man, he's not concerned by FOSS evangelism) |
| 08:32 |
chris |
its philosophy and ethics not evangelism |
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and i dont suggest demanding, i suggest asking if they made a mistake |
| 08:33 |
paul_p |
chris: right (that's the term I was looking for) |
| 08:33 |
chris |
im concerned with ethical behaviour, thats why i work on free software |
| 08:33 |
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im not going to suspend ethics for monetary concerns, ever |
| 08:34 |
paul_p |
chris: yes, and me too. But it's not the case for everyone. |
| 08:34 |
chris |
sure, but that's their problem, not mine |
| 08:35 |
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anyway, this not fruitful, because the person we should be talking to about is not here :) |
| 08:36 |
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maybe you could mention it in passing if you get the chance, it would be nice of them to point it at koha-community.org |
| 08:39 |
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on to happier news, we have a volunteer to be koha janitor |
| 08:40 |
magnus |
nice, what does the koha janitor do? ;-) |
| 08:41 |
chris |
cleans up bad styles, badly named scripts/variables etc |
| 08:42 |
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i added it to the agenda for the next irc meetng, so we can come up with some tasks |
| 08:44 |
magnus |
ah, i see |
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| 08:46 |
magnus |
btw, chris, you forgot what is probably the tinyest patch in the history of koha in your recent update to history.txt: http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]20f3f8bb2c839b7f5 ;-) |
| 08:47 |
chris |
hehe ill add that right now |
| 08:48 |
magnus |
great - i'm ever so slightly proud of having my name added to that list... :-) |
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| 08:51 |
chris |
done |
| 08:52 |
magnus |
thanks |
| 08:53 |
chris |
102 :) |
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| 08:55 |
magnus |
yup, that's me! ;-) |
| 08:56 |
chris |
with your normarc work, we should be able to add libriotech to the about page soon :) |
| 08:58 |
magnus |
cool! |
| 08:59 |
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i'm sort of waiting for 3.2 to be "finished", so the normarc work can go into 3.4, if the RM sees fit |
| 08:59 |
chris |
*nod* |
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| 08:59 |
chris |
its getting very close, galen has been pushing patches like crazy :) |
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we only have a few more blockers left |
| 09:00 |
CGI833 |
hi all |
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is any one here? |
| 09:00 |
magnus |
oh, yeah, i have a hard time keeping my install of head up to date :-) |
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gmcharlt |
good morning |
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hdl_laptop |
hi gmcharlt |
| 09:46 |
chris |
wow you are awake early gmcharlt |
| 09:49 |
gmcharlt |
eh, too much caffeine last night |
| 09:49 |
chris |
that'd do it |
| 09:49 |
gmcharlt |
htaccess: welcome future code janitor! |
| 09:50 |
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[but /me likes cuddled elses and doesn't understand anybody who doesn't ;) ] |
| 09:50 |
chris |
gmcharlt: he did volunteer after friday drinks at work, .. but it's in the logs now :) |
| 09:52 |
gmcharlt |
paul_p: chris: arg - hopefully that website change is just a glitch |
| 09:52 |
paul_p |
'morning gmcharlt |
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gmcharlt: yep |
| 09:53 |
gmcharlt |
of course, I can see how the koha.org vs. koha-community.org thing could make someone rather unsure where to redirect to |
| 09:54 |
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magnus: your normarc work - is it a set of framework SQL, or do you also have code changes? |
| 09:54 |
magnus |
gmcharlt: both |
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| 09:55 |
paul_p |
mmm... about koha.org => shouldn't we decide to move definetly to koha-community.org ? |
| 09:55 |
magnus |
value_builders + there are some places that assume unimarc as the default, i thought i'd to send an email to the devel-list on how i should handle those |
| 09:56 |
paul_p |
who takes the ball on this matter ? hlt/jransom ? |
| 09:56 |
gmcharlt |
magnus: cool |
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| 09:57 |
paul_p |
because, of course, we have no hope to retrieve Koha.org - at least until LL goes bankrupt - |
| 09:57 |
gmcharlt |
paul_p: yeah, I guess one way would be for Jo and HLT so say that they're officially giving up and recommend moving to koha-community.org |
| 09:59 |
magnus |
as i recall it we were just about to give up on LL when the PTFS-thing was announced, so i would guess we are back at that point now... |
| 09:59 |
gmcharlt |
yeah |
| 10:02 |
chris |
yep, there is a meeting 2nd march |
| 10:02 |
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we can discuss it then |
| 10:04 |
gmcharlt |
yep |
| 10:09 |
chris |
translate.koha.org currently points to my server where pootle lives, so if we cant get that pointed to where fredericd wants it, we might need to do translate.koha-community.org |
| 10:10 |
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magnus: gmcharlt pushed the patch, you're official :) |
| 10:10 |
magnus |
woohoo! ;-) |
| 10:11 |
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virtual "Freia melkesjokolade" (norwegian milk chocolate) for everyone! |
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gmcharlt |
magnus++ |
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magnus |
@karma magnus |
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munin |
magnus: Karma for "magnus" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2. |
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magnus |
hm, guess i need to pass out more chocolate... |
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Amit |
hi all |
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magnus |
ho Amit |
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oups... hi Amit |
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gmcharlt |
hi Amit |
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Amit |
hi magnus, galen |
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nengard |
morning all! |
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can someone test the fix for: emailLibrarianWhenHoldIsPlaced -- I don't have email working on my test system yet |
| 12:25 |
gmcharlt |
morning nengard |
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nengard |
morning!! :) |
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gmcharlt |
it puts the message in message_queue, so you can look at the table to at least see that the message was added |
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nengard |
i don't have that cron running either ;) |
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gmcharlt |
yeah |
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but looking at the table with mysql will at least show that the message is ready to go once you start running the cronjob and get email working :) |
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nengard |
oh! yeah :) got it |
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well there it is!! :) |
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awesome |
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nengard |
now i just have to figure out how to get email working on this darn virtualbox ... maybe someone could write up a tutorial for that?? |
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Colin |
Morning all |
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jdavidb |
Hi, Colin! :) |
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jwagner |
Morning. |
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gmcharlt |
hi Colin jwagner jdavidb |
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paul_p |
hi jwagner & jdavidb & nengard & all america world |
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* jwagner |
thinks paul_p is feeling pretty expansive today ;-) |
| 12:40 |
gmcharlt |
not expansive enough, what about the poor Selenes? ;) |
| 12:40 |
jwagner |
And the Martians, and the Venusians? |
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Colin |
and dimensions beyond our ken |
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jwagner |
Maybe our default greeting should be Hello Universe or Multiverse? |
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Nah, too much trouble.... |
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paul_p |
the problem with universe/multiverse is that we don't know who is at morning, who is at evening, who is sleeping, who is at lunch, who is at dinner... |
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paul_p |
things would be so easier if : 1-everyone spoke french 2-live at UTC :D |
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* jdavidb |
just barely speaks English, he's been told. |
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* jwagner |
debates the inevitable collisions when everyone thinks their locale is the center of the universe |
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chris_n |
nengard: it works, I have it running here nightly |
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nengard: I submitted a how to for setting up gmail as an smtp |
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nengard |
chris_n - where???? |
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chris_n |
to patches@ |
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om |
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nengard |
chris_n and all - when you send emails for documentation to patches can you put DOCUMENTATION or DOCS or something in the subject so I catch it?? I missed your last one chris_n - but I"ll get those changes in there |
| 12:49 |
chris_n |
nengard: this was submitted as an enhancement for 3.4 so I'm not sure it will make it into 3.2 |
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I'll send you a link in a moment |
| 12:49 |
gmcharlt |
chris_n: no, the patch to the koha manual you did |
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nengard |
chris_n - the email librarian patch? cause Galen pushed it last night |
| 12:50 |
jwagner |
Question on tracing catalog records -- Is there any way starting from the bib record in Koha to tell what import batch loaded it? With several hundred batches in the list, it's not feasible to try to look through each one to find the title. |
| 12:51 |
chris_n |
hmm.... I'm missing it |
| 12:52 |
gmcharlt |
jwagner: import_biblios.matched_biblionumber -> import_records -> import_batch |
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chris_n |
nengard: http://lists.koha.org/pipermai[…]ruary/005572.html |
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gmcharlt: I don't see that that ^^ was pushed |
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nengard |
Oh!! Yeah |
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chris_n |
nengard: it needs the coding changes |
| 12:54 |
gmcharlt |
chris_n: no, not yet |
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chris_n |
and I see a syntax error... |
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nengard |
chris_n -- regarding this: http://lists.koha.org/pipermai[…]ruary/005574.html |
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I think your changes are in the manual now |
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chris_n |
right |
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* chris_n |
needs to rebase that |
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chris_n |
tn |
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tnx even |
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nengard |
and that was the email i meant to put DOCS in the subject or something to make me notice it |
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jwagner |
gmcharlt, thanks. |
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chris_n |
gmcharlt: I was not sure how much enh stuff you wanted in 3.2 hence my 3.4 subject line |
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nengard: will do |
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nengard |
in the case of that message - i actually found those errors and had fixed them - sometimes i forget to check my validation in XMLEditor |
| 12:59 |
gmcharlt |
chris_n: generally speaking, I'll be pushing 3.4 enhancements patches to 3.2 only if they are self-evidently won't break something else |
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chris_n |
yeah, a docbook2pdf converter discovered them on my side |
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gmcharlt: it seems this one should not (I need to resubmit to correct a syntax error) |
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htaccess |
does chris c have a koha email address? |
| 13:00 |
gmcharlt |
chris cormack? |
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chris_n: yeah, I'd like to avoid pushing syntax errors :) |
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* gmcharlt |
notes that occassionally that hasn't stopped him from doing so at times :/ |
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chris_n |
:) |
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htaccess |
yes, chris cormack |
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gmcharlt |
htaccess: chrisbigballofwax.co.nz |
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chris_n |
gmcharlt: would you like for me to implement your recommendations on moving the deps list and resubmit for 3.2? |
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or 3.4 |
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htaccess |
gmcharlt: thanks |
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gmcharlt |
chris_n: 3.2, but also please include have about.pl get its list of modules from C4::Installer |
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gmcharlt |
another thought occurs - let's stick them into C4::Installer::Deps or C4::Installer::PerlModules |
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chris_n |
k, I'll do it |
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chris_n |
gmcharlt: gmail patch resubmitted |
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heya owen |
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owen |
Hi |
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gmcharlt |
hi owen |
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htaccess |
im curious, looking at the koha code i notice there is a lot of inconsistency for example tabs and spaces for whitespace, trailing whitespace, cuddled elses and many things contra to 'perl best practices', is there any desire to fix this stuff or is it a case of 'if it aint broke' ? |
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im wondering if the koha community would value a janitor? |
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cf http://janitor.kernelnewbies.org/ |
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gmcharlt |
htaccess: sure |
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htaccess |
but i notice you say here http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]:codingguidelines |
| 13:32 |
gmcharlt |
are you subscribed to koha-devel ? |
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htaccess |
Refactoring Code |
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Don't needlessly refactor code, if it ain't broke, don't fix it! Don't waste time on changing style from someone else's style to your's! If you must refactor, make sure that the commit for the refactoring is completely separate from a bugfix, etc. |
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gmcharlt: yes i am subbed |
| 13:33 |
gmcharlt |
there was some discussion of perltidy and do a mass whitespace cleanup when we branch 3.4 |
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htaccess |
gmcharlt: i would be keen on being involved |
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nengard |
can someone help me get some cron jobs set up? I thought I did it right, but I must have missed a step or have a syntax error - cause they're not running (I'm on debian) |
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gmcharlt |
cool |
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htaccess |
but dont want to step on any toes |
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gmcharlt |
nengard: please paste your crontab; also check /var/log/messages to see if cron is reporting anything amiss |
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nengard |
will do |
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gmcharlt |
htaccess: start small, don't try to rebuild the world in one go :) |
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htaccess |
i have forked http://github.com/ranginui/koha and am keen to get busy but thought i should sound out the community |
| 13:34 |
gmcharlt |
a good starting point might be bug 2505 (adding the use warnings pragma) |
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munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2505 major, P3, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, enable Perl warnings in all modules and scripts |
| 13:35 |
gmcharlt |
Garry Collum has been sending a number of patches for that, but there are still lots of scripts that need it |
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nengard |
okay - it's been a while since I did this ... remind me where my crontab is :) |
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gmcharlt |
and he's done quite well |
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htaccess |
gmcharlt: would you suggest bringing up the issue on the list? |
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gmcharlt |
nengard: run crontab -l |
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htaccess: have you submitted patches before? |
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to Koha, that is |
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htaccess |
gmcharlt: no not to koha |
| 13:36 |
pastebot |
"nengard" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "crontab" (28 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/3 |
| 13:37 |
gmcharlt |
well, you can certainly bring it up on the list, but I think a better start would be to pick a few small bugs and submit patches for them first |
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build up a few kudos before announcing any grand plans :) |
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htaccess |
gmcharlt: ok that sounds sensible |
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gmcharlt |
if you want to focus on whitespace cleanup, that's fine, but please don't mix whitespace and bugfixes in the same patch |
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htaccess |
gmcharlt: defintly |
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actually: |
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gmcharlt |
and use the existing perltidyrc - it's xt/perltidyrc |
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nengard |
gmcharlt - nothing in /var/log/messages |
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htaccess |
In terms of the actual patches should I: |
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Fix one issue universally as one big patch |
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Fix one issue in one file as a single patch |
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Fix one issue all files in one directory as a single patch |
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Fix multiple different issues in a single file as a single patch |
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owen |
I found this via a google alert for my library's name: http://twitter.com/JohnHeals/status/9286997546 |
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gmcharlt |
#2 or #3 are better (one issue per file or one issue per directory) |
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owen |
someone spamming... something in my catalog? |
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nengard |
wierd |
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htaccess |
gmcharlt: thanks, ill have a look at 2505 and go from there |
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owen |
I'm not sure what they get out of it |
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gmcharlt |
owen: congratulations! you have now figured out how libraries can be relevant in a web 2.0 world! |
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nengard |
keywords?? |
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gmcharlt |
;) |
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collum |
owen gets more stats |
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chris_n |
nengard: no overdue_notices.pl in your crontab |
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nengard |
chris_n - cause I don't have email working :) |
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I'd just be happy if search rebuilt on its own |
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search and authorities |
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chris_n |
change -z to -r |
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but that is a problem if you have too many bibs/items |
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-z does not seem to work here, but I've not taken the time to debug it |
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gmcharlt |
nengard: if that's the entirity of your cron tab, you may also be missing |
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PERL5LIB=/home/liblime/kohaclone |
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KOHA_CONF=/home/liblime/kohaclone/etc/koha-conf.xml |
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replace '/home/liblime' with the correct path, of course |
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nengard |
okay - so where is my crontab so I can edit it? crontab -l just shows me the contents |
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gmcharlt |
crontab -e edits it |
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nengard |
ah |
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where do i put those lines |
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does it matter? |
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chris_n |
top |
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nengard |
k - done - so the rest is okay? will this rebuild search and calculate fines and populate the holds resports -- aka - everything that doesn't require email |
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chris_n |
it should |
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nengard |
:) we'll see in a few hours I guess |
| 13:47 |
gmcharlt |
check crontab.example in one of last few commits - there's a new job to cancel expired holds |
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http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]a6f4d1555a11c8089 |
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gatchen |
hello |
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anybody here |
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sekjal |
hi, gatchen |
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nengard |
what controls when a hold is canceled - i thought it was a sys pref, but I don't see it |
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oh - is it: ReservesMaxPickUpDelay |
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if so then the description for that pref is wrong - can anyone confirm? |
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gmcharlt - can you tell me what preference controls that cron job - how does it know when to cancel a hold? |
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gmcharlt |
it's cancelling unfilled hold requests that have an explicit expiration date |
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not the same thing as the case that would be handled by ReservesMaxPickUpDelay, which would need a report of items that should be taken off the holds shelf |
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circ/waitingreserves.pl handles that |
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nengard |
gmcharlt - how do we set an expiration date for a hold? |
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gmcharlt |
when it's created - may I suggest that you go install last night's patches first and try testing placing a hold request? |
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nengard |
i have last night's patches :) |
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but I did not try a hold request |
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off to do that |
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ah - okay - so this cron only works if an expiration date has been set for a hold - and right now that is only done at the time the hold is placed? |
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just to confirm |
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gmcharlt |
correct |
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owen |
nengard: I agree with your comment on Bug 2970, but I'm not sure how to better handle that case |
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munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2970 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, ASSIGNED, Create a permission for modifying holds priority |
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owen |
It doesn't really make sense to give someone permission to modify holds but not to place them |
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nengard |
i agree - so we either need to remove the permission or make it work :) |
| 14:26 |
jwagner |
nengard and gmcharlt, I missed a lot of the discussion, but you're talking about expiring holds? |
| 14:26 |
nengard |
yes |
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jwagner |
Did you look at Bug 3474? |
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munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3474 enhancement, P5, ---, kohaprogrammersptfs.com, NEW, Handling of and report for expired or cancelled holds, display expiration dates |
| 14:27 |
jwagner |
This is one of the items that we should be sending out soon (once we get it updated to current head). |
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Does that help with your issue? |
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gmcharlt |
jwagner: yes, that's another piece of the puzzle |
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nengard |
k - time to give a webinar |
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be back later |
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gmcharlt |
owen: nengard: re 2970, I don't think that's a huge deal - certainly not worth removing the permission - but perhaps setting the flagsrequired to reserveforothers => '*' will get you what you want |
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in reserve/request.pl |
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owen |
Thanks gmcharlt I'll try that. |
| 14:37 |
jwagner |
On the list of checkouts in the patron record (Details and Checkout tab), what does the Charge column refer to? Rental charge? Fine? |
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gmcharlt |
rental charge |
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jwagner |
I was afraid of that :-( Thanks. |
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wizzyrea |
good morning |
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jwagner |
good morning wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
*yawn* how goes the koha hacking today |
| 15:14 |
jwagner |
hacking as in the axe murderer scenario? I'm about ready to do that on one of our setups :-( |
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paul_p |
yesterday, two of us lost 4 hours on a new setup... just because zebra has been setup zebra 1.x :'((((( |
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(and, of course, zebra error messages are really hard to deal with...) |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: pushed a bunch of holds patches - none of which yet fix the transiting issues, but aiming to close the queue of functionality changes before working on the bugfixes |
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sekjal |
paul_p: ugh, that sounds horrid. |
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wizzyrea |
I think I just pulled them |
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we will look closely this afternoon :) |
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so we should expect a little wierdness, perhaps? |
| 15:19 |
gmcharlt |
hopefully not too much (more than normal, anyway :) ) |
| 15:19 |
paul_p |
wizzyrea is now a geek : "i just pull them", said like "I bought the bread" :D |
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sekjal |
I'm probably the only one getting this, but does anyone else have an issue with Label Creator and adding items to a batch? |
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whenever I do a search for items to add, I get a software error back |
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Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/labels/label-item-search.pl line 129. |
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probably something local, if no one else has noticed this, but still a major hassle for my colleagues |
| 15:21 |
wizzyrea |
paul_p: I think you mean "Wizzyrea is now a Koha geek" because my geek flag has been flown high for quite a while now... just not in Git/Perl/Koha lol |
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but thank you for promoting me :) |
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* jwagner |
wonders if there are official levels of geekdom |
| 15:24 |
jwagner |
But I have to brag a little on my jquery geekdom -- used owen's example of how to hide the first/last table column, and figured out how to hide, say, the 6th column :-) |
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wizzyrea |
I love jquery. I wish I used it more. |
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or, had occasion to use it more |
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it's like magic |
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sekjal is now known as sekjal-meeting |
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jwagner |
I'm in the middle of an upgrade from a site installed a year ago -- jquery has saved me about 16-17 template customizations at latest count. |
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wizzyrea |
yea, I have a Zillion of them in ours |
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jwagner |
Now I need to do the same for other sites -- figure out what I hardcoded that could be replaced by a jquery instead. It's gonna make upgrading SO much easier in the future. |
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wizzyrea |
there's just no reason to change the template, and I owe all of that realization to owen and gmcharlt (poor gmcharlt had to deal with us before we were using jquery and was so gentle in his suggestion to try jquery) |
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and owen for his most excellent kohacon presentation |
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jwagner |
Suggestion for the wiki -- we have the sample SQL page, maybe we should have a sample jquery page. Here's what I wanted to do, here's the command that worked. |
| 15:27 |
wizzyrea |
oh, that's a really good idea |
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jwagner |
I'll be putting together such a list for our internal sites but most of it would be useful for others. |
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I don't speak wiki enough to create such a page, but if someone else can set it up, I can add some of mine. |
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wizzyrea |
jwagner: i'll try to create the page right now, but then have to run off to a training session |
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(web work day, actually) |
| 15:29 |
jwagner |
No great rush -- I have too much else to do right now anyway. |
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jwagner |
But for the future.... |
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rhcl2 |
is thd the only sysop? |
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wizzyrea |
gmcharlt do you have anyone who has committed to production beta 3.2? |
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if that makes sense |
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owen |
wizzyrea: Do you mean people who have said they'd go into production with 3.2 once it was in beta? |
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Colin |
We've just trained a site on 3.2 alpha going soon real soon now |
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thats live real soon now |
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paul_p |
Colin++ |
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jwagner |
owen, speaking of jquery :-) does it work on XSLT labels? I didn't see how offhand. |
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paul_p |
(although a little bit risky imo...) |
| 15:53 |
owen |
jwagner: Bug 3382 |
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munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3382 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonardmyacpl.org, NEW, Add classes to XSLT results and detail displays to facilitate CSS styling |
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jwagner |
if I'm reading that right, that's something you'd like to build in, but isn't present yet? |
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jwagner |
Somebody doublecheck me -- the QueryRemoveStopwords syspref is only relevant if you AREN'T using zebra, correct? |
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pianohackr|work |
Really, nothing makes a morning like walking into a recurring kernel panic on your production koha server |
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magnus_away |
ouch... |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea_: production beta 3.2? no - glad Colin has found a guinea pig :) |
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gmcharlt |
jwagner: riffing on something you mentioned earlier - http://www.geekcode.com/geek.html |
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jwagner: correct - QueryRemoveStopwords doesn't need to be on if you're using Zebra |
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jwagner |
gmcharlt, thanks. Just wanted to confirm. |
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* jwagner |
snickers at the geek thing. I am not worthy! |
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gatchen |
hi all |
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owen |
Welcome back gatchen |
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gatchen |
yess |
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owen |
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owen |
gatchen: there is no up-to-date version of Koha that works on Windows at the moment |
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However, you can use software like VirtualBox to run Linux in a virtual machine on your windows machine |
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chris_n |
pianohackr|work: sounds like my day yesterday |
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pianohackr|work |
eh. What happened? |
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chris_n |
I discovered my production db instance was not built with the InnoDB engine and all my tables were MyISAM |
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chris_n |
heya sekja |
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sekjal even |
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pianohackr|work |
hey ian |
| 17:00 |
sekjal |
hi! |
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chris_n |
bbiab |
| 17:01 |
sekjal |
just wanted to pop in quick and let wizzyrea_ and gmcharlt (and everyone else) know that NYUHSL is committed to being live on 3.2 beta |
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gmcharlt |
sekjal++ |
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sekjal |
I just moved them to the latest and greatest this morning |
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Bib Control is ecstatic |
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| 17:15 |
gmcharlt |
Bib Control? cataloging? |
| 17:15 |
sekjal |
gmcharlt: yes |
| 17:16 |
gmcharlt |
do your bibs often run amuck? |
| 17:16 |
sekjal |
they love the interface improvements to the Edit Items screen (no more scrolling every which way) |
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some may feel so about our bibs, yes, but I think they're in good hands |
| 17:16 |
gmcharlt |
:) |
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sekjal |
I guess this can be considered my parting gift to them; today is my last day with NYUHSL |
| 17:19 |
jwagner |
Hmmm. Upgrade to new version and leave immediately :-) |
| 17:20 |
gmcharlt |
jwagner: are any PTFSers going to Code4Lib? |
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| 17:21 |
jwagner |
I don't think so. Timing of other events kind of prevented us from making the travel plans. |
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Wish we were, though. |
| 17:21 |
sekjal |
jwagner: yes, I do feel a little bad about that, but they know where to find me if they want to contract for support. |
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owen |
"Bib Control" That's great. |
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"My 9-month-old may not be walking yet, but she's got great bib control." |
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sekjal |
lol |
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gmcharlt |
@quote add owen> "My 9-month-old may not be walking yet, but she's got great bib control." |
| 17:31 |
sekjal |
owen: are you coming to Code4Lib? I owe you a Beverage if you are... |
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munin |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #59 added. |
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gmcharlt |
@quote remove 59 |
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munin |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
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gmcharlt |
@quote add <owen> "My 9-month-old may not be walking yet, but she's got great bib control." |
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munin |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #60 added. |
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owen_ |
I'm back, I was just downstairs renaming our cataloging department "Bibliographic Processing and Control" |
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sekjal: I wish I could make it to code4Lib, but I can't |
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I've been shirking all my non-Koha duties lately and now I've got to catch up |
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nengard |
wizzyrea_ where are we with getting the documentation updated on the new site? right now it's not the complete manual and it's not the most recent version. Is there anything I can do to help out? |
| 17:36 |
sekjal |
owen_: understand. sorry you can't make it, but there will be other code4libs, and other conferences |
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owen_ |
sekjal: Will presentations be put online? |
| 17:38 |
sekjal |
yes |
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at least mine will |
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sekjal |
I assume others will do the same, at least in large part |
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brb |
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chris |
morning |
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sekjal |
morning, chris |
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jwagner |
G'morning chris |
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brendan |
morning chris |
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@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 13.8�C (10:34 AM PST on February 19, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:39 |
wizzyrea_ |
no, not much to do to help out, unless you can procure extra time for me. I will look at it this weekend, nengard |
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but the docbook2html chokes on some of your characters, and that's why it's not complete |
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so I have to figure out how to tell the script to ignore those errors, or make the threshold higher |
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and I'm tied up all afternoon with holds system testing |
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when it's perfect I will make it automatic |
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on a schedule |
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so all you'll have to do is update the git repo and the changes will come in with no intervention |
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i'm sorry I haven't had more time to look at it |
| 18:42 |
nengard |
no that's A-OK!! |
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I understand time issues |
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just wanted to help if I could |
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it looks like the script is choking on the first table |
| 18:42 |
sekjal |
just saw this on Slashdot: Jacobsen v. Katzer Settled - Victory of F/OSS http://miburl.com/W0WBur |
| 18:42 |
nengard |
so it's the <table> tags - which is weird cause they're the same in HTML as in DocBook |
| 18:43 |
chris |
sekjal: sweet! |
| 18:46 |
chris_n |
gmcharlt: just speaking with nengard about the need at times of communicating misc info to the user after an upgrade (not necessarily a db upgrade) |
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it would be nice to have a one-time redirect after every upgrade to an upgrade notes page or something like that |
| 18:47 |
gmcharlt |
that or just include a link to the release notes on the page after the update finishes |
| 18:47 |
chris_n |
ie. the redirect bit resets after the page is accessed until the next upgrade sets it again |
| 18:47 |
gmcharlt |
but sure |
| 18:48 |
wizzyrea_ |
nengard: openjade:/home/koha-community/public_html/wp-content/uploads/kohadocs/en/koha3-2manual.xml:19385:55:E: non SGML character number 147 |
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kind of errors |
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over 200 of them, varying numbers |
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I think it quits parsing when it gets to 200 |
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so the place where it stops is based on that, not the content of where it stops, if that makes sense |
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chris_n: could put an automatic news item |
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that expires 1 day after date of update |
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into the DB |
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with every update |
| 18:50 |
chris_n |
wizzyrea_++ |
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excellent idea |
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nengard |
wizzyrea_++ |
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love it |
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but make it 2 or 3 days :) |
| 18:50 |
wizzyrea_ |
i mean, it's deletable before that |
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well yea |
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:) |
| 18:50 |
chris_n |
owen could whip up some special css to make it flash lights and ring bells |
| 18:50 |
nengard |
cause people won't know to look there |
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LOL |
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chris_n those are all very very bad web design :) |
| 18:51 |
chris_n |
especially with the new sounds feature :) |
| 18:51 |
wizzyrea_ |
i like the sounds, but wow it beeps a lot |
| 18:51 |
nengard |
yeah - why does it beep when i get to the page itself? |
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i don't need a sound to tell me i opened a new page ;) |
| 18:51 |
wizzyrea_ |
I understand the logic behind the beep on page load but it's annoying lol |
| 18:52 |
nengard |
what's the logic? |
| 18:52 |
wizzyrea_ |
darrel sent me a long email telling me why |
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because he wants to know when the page is ready for action |
| 18:52 |
owen |
chris_n must have seen my animated background example http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=237 |
| 18:52 |
nengard |
ah! |
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i guess that's okay |
| 18:52 |
wizzyrea_ |
it should be a different sound than the checkout noise |
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imo |
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ok, food |
| 18:52 |
chris_n |
owen: very nice |
| 18:53 |
wizzyrea_ |
starving, must have brain food to slog through holds this afternoon :) |
| 18:53 |
owen |
Does anyone know what the source of the sounds is? |
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...and do they require their own license statement? |
| 18:56 |
chris |
the sounds are totally syspref controlled eh? |
| 18:56 |
owen |
One pref to rule them all |
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What we probably need is an "audio control panel" in Administration where you can check off which ones you want |
| 18:57 |
chris |
yeah |
| 18:58 |
schuster |
owen ++ |
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chris |
cos most ppl (i suspect) only want a beep on error |
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(or will after 20 mins of constant noise) |
| 18:59 |
chris_n |
hehe |
| 18:59 |
schuster |
chris++ error or non regular checkin or credit/payment/overdue |
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what do you work in a library or something? sheesh. |
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;) |
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gmcharlt |
owen: described in the patch - Darrell says they fall under the Artistic License |
| 19:02 |
owen |
Do we need some kind of documentation of that? |
| 19:05 |
gmcharlt |
patch description would seem to be enough, unless you want to ask Darrell to toss a LICENSE into the sound directory |
| 19:18 |
sekjal |
I'm still getting an error with Label Creator... a null HASH reference on line 129 of /labels/label-item-search.pl |
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| 19:19 |
sekjal |
my system doesn't seem to like "my $item_data->{'_item_number'} = " |
| 19:23 |
ebegin |
sekjal, do in it 2 lines. my %item_data; |
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$item_data->{'_item_number'} ='' |
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sekjal |
ebegin: just did, and it seemed to fix the immediate problem |
| 19:24 |
ebegin |
cool |
| 19:24 |
sekjal |
similar error has now moved to C4/Creators/Lib.pm |
| 19:25 |
ebegin |
hmmm... did you modified the code? |
| 19:25 |
sekjal |
no, this is all fresh off git.koha.org this morning |
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I assume that since no one else has reported a bug about this (it prevents me from using the Label Creator at all), that it's somehow local to my system |
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chris_n |
sekjal: probably a data corruption issue there |
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* chris_n |
has d�j� vu |
| 19:33 |
chris_n |
didn't we work through your data the other day? |
| 19:33 |
sekjal |
chris_n: wouldn't be surprised, after all I've been through lately. but I've had luck by splitting offending lines in two |
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chris_n: yes |
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chris_n: I spent last night comparing my current DB structure to kohastructure.sql, and couldn't find any significant differences |
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chris_n |
sekjal: it may not have all come through cleanly |
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sekjal |
but maybe my crossed eyes missed something (it was late) |
| 19:35 |
chris_n |
the structure may be ok, but some of the labels data corrupted in the conversion |
| 19:35 |
chris |
that wouldnt be causing a syntax error tho |
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other errors yes, but a syntax one nope |
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chris_n |
hmm... |
| 19:36 |
sekjal |
what it's looking like to me right now is way my Perl is setup, it doesn't want to let me assign a hash reference to a variable on the same line I'm declaring it |
| 19:36 |
chris_n |
sekjal: exactly what are you doing to get the error? |
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chris |
yeah that line doesnt look right to me |
| 19:36 |
sekjal |
in Label Creator, New Batch, press Add Item(s), and search for a term |
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* chris_n |
looks |
| 19:36 |
sekjal |
only get the error if I get at least one result |
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Zebra is working and returning fine, as far as I can tell (have it running in a terminal window) |
| 19:37 |
chris |
perl -e "my $item_data->{'_item_number'};" |
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syntax error at -e line 1, near "my ->" |
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so tis not just your perl, but perl in general sekjal |
| 19:37 |
ebegin |
I don't think this is valid |
| 19:38 |
chris_n |
weird error |
| 19:38 |
chris |
nope its not |
| 19:38 |
ebegin |
The code tries to access a hash that wasn't created yet... |
| 19:38 |
chris |
yep |
| 19:38 |
chris_n |
so one cannot declare a hashref and load an element in one line? |
| 19:39 |
sekjal |
well, it must work somewhere for someone. |
| 19:39 |
* chris_n |
wonders why we have not had this problem here |
| 19:39 |
sekjal |
I can't be the first person to try to use the Label Creator |
| 19:39 |
chris |
actually i lie that is valid |
| 19:39 |
ebegin |
you may be sekjal :) |
| 19:39 |
chris_n |
we have run over 250 batches on that code :-) |
| 19:40 |
sekjal |
so, local configurations must factor in somehow |
| 19:40 |
chris |
8:39 ~/git/koha (documentation)$ perl -e 'use strict; my $item_data->{"_item_number"}' |
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08:39 ~/git/koha (documentation)$ |
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works ok |
| 19:40 |
chris_n |
works fine here |
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sekjal: what perl version |
| 19:40 |
ebegin |
perl -e "use strict; my $hashname->{'hashkey'} = '123';" |
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syntax error at -e line 1, near "my ->" |
| 19:41 |
sekjal |
5.008008 |
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chris_n |
hmmm... v5.10.0 here |
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ebegin: what version are you on? |
| 19:41 |
ebegin |
5.10 |
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chris_n |
ebegin: I get your error as well |
| 19:43 |
ebegin |
I didn't run the code... hold on |
| 19:44 |
chris |
you cant use " on the commandline, the $ gets interpolated |
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perl -e 'use strict; my $hashname->{"hashkey"} = "123";' |
| 19:44 |
chris_n |
snap |
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:) |
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that works fine |
| 19:45 |
sekjal |
so, it looks like some folks get the error, others don't, depending on things outside of Koha and its data. If we patch to split the offending lines, it should work for everyone, right? |
| 19:45 |
chris_n |
maybe corrupted data? |
| 19:45 |
ebegin |
perl -e 'use strict; my $hashname->{"hashkey"} = 123; print $hashname->{"hashkey"}' |
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123 |
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test passed :) |
| 19:45 |
chris_n |
if so, you probably want to locate the data and fix it |
| 19:45 |
wizzyrea_lab |
owen did you do that awesome new patron search design? |
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the little [+] |
| 19:46 |
owen |
I didn't add that feature, I only tweaked the display a little bit |
| 19:46 |
wizzyrea_lab |
right, the display of it is ++ nice |
| 19:47 |
chris_n |
sekjal: I'd try dumping the contents of the $item_results hash and see if something is screwed up there |
| 19:49 |
owen |
wizzyrea_lab: hdl gets the ++ for the [+] and the functionality |
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It was a nice subtle modification to the UI that really works. |
| 19:50 |
sekjal |
chris_n: okay, I'll give that a go |
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* owen |
still thinks we need a full-blown advanced search for patrons |
| 19:53 |
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wants to be able to search by address, phone number, email address, etc. |
| 19:53 |
jwagner |
owen, see Bug 3468 -- the SQL search part |
| 19:53 |
munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3468 enhancement, P5, ---, kohaprogrammersptfs.com, NEW, Enhanced patron searching, patron batch edit/delete |
| 19:53 |
wizzyrea_lab |
hm, has anyone reported that placing hold from cart fails on items that are unholdable, in a very silent way |
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like, click the button nothing happens kind of way |
| 19:55 |
owen |
wizzyrea_lab: doesn't sound familiar to me |
| 19:55 |
wizzyrea_lab |
k I will write it up |
| 19:58 |
owen |
jwagner: that enhanced searching sounds useful for maintenance tasks, but all I want is a bunch of form fields like the regular advanced search page. |
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wizzyrea_lab |
bug 4231 |
| 20:01 |
munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4231 normal, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, Placing holds from cart fails silently |
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jwagner |
owen, our feature does add email and phone number to the pulldown for the basic patron search, which should help some. |
| 20:21 |
wizzyrea_lab |
lol omg |
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so batch conversion changes locations |
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even if you don't want to overwrite them >.> |
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there's no option for "no change" |
| 20:22 |
chris_n |
sounds like fun :) |
| 20:22 |
wizzyrea_lab |
all of the dropdowns need to default to no change lol |
| 20:22 |
* wizzyrea_lab |
goes to file a bug |
| 20:22 |
owen |
I think that has been discussed, probably a bug for it already |
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Some talk on the mailing list at least? |
| 20:24 |
wizzyrea_lab |
hmm, 4172 |
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schuster |
ptfs still around? jwagner jdavidb? |
| 20:24 |
wizzyrea_lab |
maybe? |
| 20:25 |
jwagner |
Yes, we're here. Brain not terribly functional, but... |
| 20:25 |
schuster |
Seems like I read someplace that you all were doing something with a calling system for overdues? |
| 20:25 |
jwagner |
phone notification? yes |
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Itiva Talking Tech is the phone system. |
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Still a few problems to iron out with it, though. |
| 20:26 |
* jdavidb |
is here, but only semi-functional as well. |
| 20:26 |
jwagner |
Sorry, no -- the phone one is pretty much OK. It's the selfcheck SIP we've been also doing that still has a couple of problems. |
| 20:27 |
schuster |
OK - there was a LL client asking about it and I thought I had seen someplace that someone had done work with it. Was there coding you all had to do in order for it to work? |
| 20:28 |
jwagner |
Yes. I'm not too familiar with the details on that one, but for sure there's a script that transfers data to the phone system, and I think some SIP tweaks for data coming back the other way. |
| 20:28 |
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That's one of the items that I still need to write up for bugzilla, sorry. |
| 20:31 |
wizzyrea_lab |
you guys are going to hate me today |
| 20:32 |
owen |
Not if you're finding bugs wizzyrea_lab |
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* jdavidb |
finds it hard to imagine hating wizzyrea_lab. Ever. |
| 20:33 |
wizzyrea_lab |
well I am finding them... I'm trying to make sure I'm not duplicating but you know how that goes |
| 20:33 |
owen |
The only time I mind a duplicate bug report is if the newer one is better than mine. |
| 20:35 |
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wizzyrea_lab: Bug 3916 |
| 20:35 |
munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3916 trivial, P5, ---, matthias.meusburgerbiblibre.com, NEW, Batch Modify Items Tool Needs Small Change |
| 20:35 |
owen |
the title of that bug needs small change too |
| 20:36 |
wizzyrea_lab |
lol |
| 20:36 |
jwagner |
Passing the hat to fund enhancements? Big change would be better than small change.... |
| 20:37 |
wizzyrea_lab |
bug 3916 |
| 20:37 |
chris_n |
sekjal: did you try this test case at the command prompt: perl -e 'use strict; my $hashname->{"hashkey"} = 123; print $hashname->{"hashkey"}' |
| 20:37 |
wizzyrea_lab |
gerg |
| 20:37 |
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bug 3916 |
| 20:38 |
jwagner |
I think it wants a capital B -- Bug 3916 |
| 20:38 |
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unless munin and/or bugzilla have gone on strike.... |
| 20:38 |
wizzyrea_lab |
seems that way |
| 20:38 |
* wizzyrea_lab |
cries |
| 20:39 |
wizzyrea_lab |
http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3916 |
| 20:39 |
munin |
04Bug 3916: trivial, P5, ---, matthias.meusburgerbiblibre.com, NEW, Batch Modify tool overwrites dropdown fields - no option for "no change" |
| 20:39 |
wizzyrea_lab |
how's that for a title :P |
| 20:39 |
owen |
I think munin tries not to spam us with bug descriptions if they come repeatedly. |
| 20:39 |
wizzyrea_lab |
AH |
| 20:39 |
* owen |
is guessing |
| 20:39 |
owen |
munin is polite like that |
| 20:39 |
munin |
owen: Error: "is" is not a valid command. |
| 20:40 |
jwagner |
good person, munin! |
| 20:40 |
schuster |
until schuster tries playing with munin then he looses his/her mind.... schuster goes to the corner... |
| 20:40 |
chris_n |
lol |
| 20:41 |
jwagner |
munin cage match? |
| 20:41 |
munin |
jwagner: Error: "cage" is not a valid command. |
| 20:41 |
gmcharlt |
@bug 3916 |
| 20:41 |
munin |
gmcharlt: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3916 trivial, P5, ---, matthias.meusburgerbiblibre.com, NEW, Batch Modify tool overwrites dropdown fields - no option for "no change" |
| 20:41 |
wizzyrea_lab |
hrm |
| 20:41 |
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this holds stuff is very interesting |
| 20:42 |
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there's no way to tell if an item was assigned to a patron by koha or by a person |
| 20:42 |
sekjal |
chris_n: Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference at -e line 1. |
| 20:42 |
owen |
wizzyrea_lab: yeah, I hate that |
| 20:43 |
chris_n |
sekjal: thank, I'll send a patch off over the weekend |
| 20:43 |
sekjal |
got one written up and ready to go |
| 20:43 |
chris_n |
cool |
| 20:43 |
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sekjal++ |
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* chris_n |
thinks all perls aught to be built equal :) |
| 20:43 |
chris_n |
ought even |
| 20:44 |
sekjal |
hopefully I'm not missing something huge with this patch, but it does give me a chance to show of my fancy new email address |
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| 20:57 |
gmcharlt |
sekjal: what version of Perl were you testing it on, out of curiosity? |
| 20:57 |
sekjal |
I'm on 5.008008 |
| 20:59 |
wizzyrea_lab |
bug 4234 |
| 20:59 |
munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4234 normal, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, Automatic transfer shouldn't take precedence over a hold transit |
| 20:59 |
wizzyrea_lab |
help, does this make sense? |
| 20:59 |
gmcharlt |
wizzyrea_lab: yes |
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time to add a 'why' column to branchtransfers, perhaps |
| 21:01 |
owen |
I think that's the same as Bug 4040 |
| 21:01 |
munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4040 normal, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, Checking in an already confirmed on-hold item results in duplicate dialogs |
| 21:02 |
* chris_n |
imagines wizzyrea_lab in a long white coat |
| 21:02 |
chris_n |
bbl |
| 21:02 |
wizzyrea_lab |
owen: that's actually the same as the next one I was going to submit |
| 21:02 |
gmcharlt |
owen: it's related, but not the same - 4234 is specifically for the automatic item return case |
| 21:03 |
wizzyrea_lab |
thanks for finding that owen, less typing for me :) |
| 21:03 |
owen |
I guess 4040 could happen either with an automatic transfer or a manual one, so yeah. |
| 21:04 |
wizzyrea_lab |
yea, we've seen both situations |
| 21:04 |
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actually, they should probably be sequential: transfer home should only appear if a hold transit has been ignored |
| 21:05 |
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like, you shouldn't even know about a home transfer unless a hold transfer has been ignored |
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| 21:07 |
Genji |
hiya all... eeep.. only one op and hes away... |
| 21:07 |
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not a good situation...... |
| 21:07 |
owen |
wizzyrea_lab: How do you define "has been ignored" ? |
| 21:08 |
Genji |
err... irc server got reset huh? |
| 21:08 |
wizzyrea_lab |
click "ignore" on the confirm hold and transfer dialog |
| 21:08 |
Genji |
Anyway, installing koha on ubuntu Koala.... same as installing on debian lenny? |
| 21:09 |
owen |
wizzyrea_lab: Okay, yeah, that makes sense |
| 21:10 |
wizzyrea_lab |
genji: afaik, it's very close |
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chris_n: more like with my pocket protector |
| 21:13 |
Genji |
so http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]TALL.debian-lenny would work with ubuntu? |
| 21:14 |
wizzyrea_lab |
when did the "confirm checkout for hold" dialog appear? |
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(and is it a syspref, can we turn it off) |
| 21:14 |
owen |
What is that wizzyrea_lab ? |
| 21:17 |
wizzyrea_lab |
gmcharlt: I am sending you ibuprofen and booze. Not to be taken at the same time, of course |
| 21:20 |
* owen |
wonders how he can get in on that action |
| 21:20 |
wizzyrea_lab |
lol |
| 21:21 |
owen |
It's quitting time, I guess I can get my own booze. |
| 21:21 |
gmcharlt |
wizzyrea_lab: heh - I'll be driving from Atlanta to Gainesville starting in a few minutes |
| 21:21 |
owen |
have a good weekend all |
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| 21:21 |
* gmcharlt |
takes the ibuprofen, shelves the booze for later :) |
| 21:22 |
gmcharlt |
Genji: there's also an INSTALL.ubuntu |
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| 21:24 |
wizzyrea_lab |
owen: the next time I see you we will have lots of booze together lol |
| 21:25 |
Genji |
oh sweet.thanks gmcharlt. hmm.... using this to install koha 3rc1 should be safe ya? |
| 21:25 |
gmcharlt |
3.0 rc1? |
| 21:26 |
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umm, why are you installing that instead of 3.0.5 or 3.2.0 alpha? |
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| 21:27 |
Genji |
because thats what my client is working with... and right now, upgrading would take long. custom files.. |
| 21:27 |
gmcharlt |
gotcha |
| 21:27 |
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yeah, the head INSTALL.ubuntu will be safe enough |
| 21:28 |
Genji |
though, updatemanager wants to upgrade libxml2 file... |
| 21:29 |
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opps |
| 21:29 |
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installing libxml2-dev automatically updated libxml2.. uhh..... |
| 21:30 |
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so, i now have xml2 version 2.7.5.... |
| 21:33 |
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and my works dev box and hostgator box have 2.6.32.... |
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| 21:41 |
wizzyrea_lab |
oh what's the command to get your environment variables to stick |
| 21:42 |
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through relogs |
| 21:42 |
* wizzyrea_lab |
is having a brain fart |
| 21:42 |
gmcharlt |
vi ~/.bashrc |
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hitting the road - bbiab |
| 21:54 |
sekjal |
time to leave. good night, all |
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| 21:56 |
schuster |
closing shop for the weekend! have a good one all. |
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| 22:00 |
brendan |
and now is the quietest time on #koha for the week |
| 22:00 |
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East coast is starting their weekend. |
| 22:00 |
* brendan |
feels like he's on the end of the planet |
| 22:02 |
wizzyrea_lab |
is there something you have to do to make the xslt stylesheets be updated? |
| 22:02 |
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I feel like I'm changng them but nothing is happening :( |
| 22:05 |
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1 hour to go |
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meh. |
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wizzyrea_ |
@later tell gmcharlt ty for the bash help, I got it. Stupid brain. |
| 22:30 |
munin |
wizzyrea_: The operation succeeded. |
| 22:37 |
chris |
everyone in my house is napping, and i want to go to the fair, but if i wake them up, there will be hell to pay |
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brendan |
heh - let them nap :) |
| 22:48 |
chris |
thats my plan:) |
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brendan |
cya #koha |
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I'll be back |
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moodaepo |
@wunder 56001 |
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munin |
moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is -4.3�C (5:21 PM CST on February 19, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa (Steady). |
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rhcl |
it's the weekend... |
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