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chris |
back |
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chris_n |
@wunder 28334 |
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munin |
chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 5.0�C (7:01 PM EST on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Falling). |
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* collum_ |
is calling it a day. See ya #koha |
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russ |
kohacon10 meeting minutes are up on the wiki http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]nutes16feb#feb_16 |
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chris |
cool |
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chris_n |
g'night #koha |
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brendan |
hi amit |
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Amit |
heya brendan |
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heya Genji, wajasu |
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Ropuch |
Morning #koha |
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chris |
hi Ropuch |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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Ropuch |
Hello kf [; |
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kf |
hi Ropuch |
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francharb |
;) |
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magnus |
so, i thought i'd have a play with ils-di on my HEAD installation last night, but it seems ils.di.pl looks for a syspref called ILS-DI, which isn't found in my install - is that a bug or a feature? |
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ils-di.pl, even |
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hdl_laptop |
magnus: you should ahve them |
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magnus |
hm, i couldn't find it in installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/sysprefs.sql either: http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]2a36493bc;hb=HEAD |
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hdl_laptop |
then bug |
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file that and assign to me please |
| 11:02 |
magnus |
ok, will do |
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hdl_laptop: what e-mail should i assign to? |
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hdl_laptop |
henridamien at koha dash fr dot org |
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magnus |
thanks |
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bug 4194 |
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munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4194 normal, P5, ---, henridamien koha-fr.org, NEW, Syspref ILS-DI is missing |
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hdl_laptop |
thanks |
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gmcharlt |
greeatings #koha |
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magnus |
good time of the day, gmcharlt |
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gmcharlt |
indeed it is |
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hi hdl_laptop |
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kf |
hi gmcharlt |
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oh, is pootle down? |
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gmcharlt |
kf: I can't get to it either |
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better let chris now |
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kf |
@later chris Hi chris, pootle seems to be down - can you take a look at it? |
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munin |
kf: Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "chris" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin. |
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kf |
mah |
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gmcharlt |
kf: it's @later tell .. |
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hdl_laptop |
hi gmcharlt |
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kf |
gmcharlt: thx |
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chris_n |
g'morning #koha |
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jwagner |
Good morning (I think) |
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kf |
goo dmorning jwagner and chris_n |
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@later tell chris Hi chris, pootle seems to be down - can you take a look at it? |
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munin |
kf: The operation succeeded. |
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jdavidb |
Mornin', #koha |
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gmcharlt |
hi jdavidb |
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* jdavidb |
passes out plates of pancakes. |
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* jwagner |
would prefer waffles :-) |
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kf |
suggests to eat jwagners pancaces too ;) |
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jwagner |
Oh, I'll _eat_ the pancakes. I was just expressing a preference :-) |
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kf |
ooh :( |
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;) |
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nengard |
jwagner - oo - waffles - I have leftover homemade waffles that I put in the freezer - i think I'll have that for breakfast :) |
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jdavidb |
Today, New Orleans is partying like there is no tomorrow; more serious-minded folk may recall that today is Shrove Tuesday, and eat pancakes. |
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* jdavidb |
makes an extra stack for kf. |
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kf |
yum :) |
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jwagner |
Ah. Missed that connection. How about a meld of cultures and taste buds, and we get French toast instead? |
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jdavidb |
I'm good with that, jwagner. :) |
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kf |
I heard of a script to bulk edit patron message settings - is this alrady available? or has someone the sql ready? |
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jdavidb |
I've done it by hand a couple of times; wouldn't be hard to script, I shouldn't think, kf. |
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nengard |
kf - chris_n submitted it as a 3.4 patch - I think... |
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kf |
I cant and the tables looked a bit complicated |
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ah |
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nengard |
kf - http://lists.koha.org/pipermai[…]ruary/005570.html |
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kf |
cant write a script |
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nengard: thx! |
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paul_p |
jdavidb++ (for switching to solr, see twitter) |
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owen |
solr over zebra? |
| 13:55 |
paul_p |
good morning usa ! ( nengard, jdavidb, jwagner, gmcharlt, chris_n, owen ) |
| 13:56 |
nengard |
good afternoon france!! |
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paul_p |
owen, solr instead of zebra |
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owen |
Good afternoon Europe! |
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nengard |
solr++ |
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jwagner |
Bonjour paul_p |
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nengard |
zebra-- |
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:) |
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owen |
I have no love for the quirks of working with Zebra, but damn it sure is better than using MySQL was. |
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paul_p |
owen: the problem with mySQL was the DB scheme at 1st (and the marc_word table), not necessary mySQL itself |
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jwagner |
We have replicating owens! |
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owen__ |
VirtualBox upgrade is making my connection go in and out |
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paul_p |
is human cloning permitted in US ? :D |
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jwagner |
Oh, I was hoping you'd succeeded in cloning yourself. That way we'd have more owens to work on OPAC issues. |
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jdavidb |
Mornin, paul_p; thanks for the karma! :) |
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* jwagner |
just asked jdavidb if using solr meant having to stick silicon panels on top the servers. He said No. |
| 14:00 |
owen__ |
Sorry jwagner, I'd put them all to work cleaning my house. |
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jwagner |
owen__, that's a terrible waste of talent! Start training those kids on housework :-) |
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owen__ |
I'll check with jdavidb to see how well that's likely to pan out |
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jwagner |
The cloning, or the silicon panels? |
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owen__ |
The training kids for housework! |
| 14:03 |
jwagner |
Ah. Depends on whether you ask jdavidb or the Evil Minion. |
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* jdavidb |
thinks "housework" is what kids are for. His teenager disagrees, but since I pay the rent, and we run on the rules of Twain's "Curious Republic of Gondour", I make the rules. |
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gmcharlt |
hi paul_p |
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jdavidb |
If she can get a job making more than I do, and pays the rent, she can make the rules, and I'll retire n be a house-parent, or move out and get mah own place. |
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schuster |
Don't shoot me about the Kids Catalog post I just did to the lists, just exploring options! |
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Trying to open doors - librarians as collaborators... ;) |
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owen__ |
I don't want to shoot you schuster but I do want to shoot that TLC kids catalog. Awful, awful awful. |
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owen |
You have to click a link that says "type search," type something to search for, and then click another button to choose what kind of search? |
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I don't know why anyone would think that's kid-friendly. |
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schuster |
Well yes I agree on the awfulness of it, but it serves a purpose. |
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jdavidb |
Schuster: SD Unicorn/Symphony has something kinda like that--public library example: http://alc.alc.org/uhtbin/cgis[…]/1/774/X/BLASTOFF |
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schuster |
yes thank you jdavidb - I just pulled a couple off the top of my head - we had that with Horizon and our librarians in the elementary like it as those kids can't spell or type yet. |
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jdavidb |
Their method not-very-cleverly links the pic icons to bald keyword searches. |
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Follett Destiny has something like that too, and LRC specialists at each campus can build new ones for their campus, based on what the teachers are doin'. Very nifty. |
| 14:19 |
schuster |
What we had was a bit more of a drill down that had keyword searches to it, but it also limited to the location of the student. |
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I don't know that I want to get that far as campus level builds, but I would love to have at least a basic one for k-3 curriculum and general interest needs. |
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jdavidb |
I would think a Koha implementation should be easy enough to limit-by-location, and possibly also limit-by-anything-Zebra-can-do. |
| 14:20 |
schuster |
I would expect that an admin such as myself could edit it add/remove change stuff. |
| 14:20 |
jdavidb |
Right; the campus-level adminning of it would be nice, but that would be hairy to set up. |
| 14:21 |
schuster |
The trick is a generic template that all 47 locations use, and getting the location dynamically without loging in. |
| 14:21 |
Nate |
Good Morning schuster, jdavidb, owen, gmcharlt, jwagner, and everyone else! |
| 14:21 |
jdavidb |
Hi, Nate. :) |
| 14:21 |
schuster |
I was talking with Owen just last week about this... |
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Nate |
What are everyone's feelings about press releases being posted on the new koha-community.org site? |
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jdavidb |
schuster: such a construct might be useful in the public-library context, as well, for serving folks with text-cognitive problems (find the music you like?) or visually impaired, with *big* icons. |
| 14:24 |
schuster |
Funny story... While working with CODI(customers of Dynix Inc users group) someone from a corporate library stood up and said they loved kids catalog. |
| 14:25 |
jdavidb |
One of Owen's clones should be able to hack that up right quick, schuster, once you get him interested in the idea. ;-) |
| 14:25 |
schuster |
They had changed all the icons to different LAW topics that did searches then for their Lawyers as they didn't know where to start. |
| 14:25 |
jdavidb |
Brilliant! |
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* jdavidb |
tries to imagine jwagner using that at NASA, back-when. Yeah, a couple of neat ideas there.. |
| 14:26 |
schuster |
Yes I was looking to possibly subcontract some of the backend work to Owen once we had a proof of concept and what I wanted it to do... With the evergreen thing though it may get delayed a little. |
| 14:26 |
jwagner |
We did use some pre-defined searches on various technical subject areas at NASA. But I scorn cute icons! |
| 14:26 |
schuster |
I'm going to write up my needs and send them to the Evergreen folks for consideration and to Owen to ponder. |
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One does what the user needs... ;) |
| 14:27 |
jdavidb |
jwagner: I was thinking of mission icons to pull stuff based on that mission, for instance. Or planet icons for planetary-science info. |
| 14:28 |
jwagner |
Nope. Good old text was enuf for the serious research types at NASA :-) |
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* jdavidb |
groans, remembering meetings of ALC's public-services committee, when 5 heads of public services/reference would bicker over the tiniest details of the catalog appearance. |
| 14:29 |
chris_n |
Nate: I don't have a problem with it... they are posted on koha.org so why not koha-community.org as well |
| 14:29 |
jwagner |
Mind you, some of them probably could have USED the cute little icons. There appears to be an inverse relationship in some people between intellectual ability and real-world functional skills. |
| 14:31 |
jdavidb |
*nod.* I know some brilliant engineers of several sorts, who have trouble in very simple social situations. Come to think of it, I have trouble with simple social situations, and I'm *not* a brilliant engineer. |
| 14:32 |
Nate |
Thanks chris_n. I think we are going to actually hold off on posting on the new site for now and maybe we will bring it up at the next IRC meeting and see what the general consensus is. |
| 14:32 |
jwagner |
We had a _LOT_ of world-class talent; it was humbling to be working around these folks. But some of them needed crossing guards to get across the street! |
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chris_n |
Nate: you could also run an opinion post by the list as well |
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Nate |
good call! will do |
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nengard |
chris_n Nate my suggestion is a category for Press and then a link to Press at the top so that the press doesn't overwhelm the rest of the content on the site - which I'll say on list if it appears there :) |
| 14:35 |
chris_n |
nengard: good idea |
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perhaps we could also have the most recent post highlighted in a small section in the right-hand sidebar |
| 14:37 |
schuster |
Feed press releases to Marshall Breeding as well - great exposure to the library community there. |
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collum |
My contention with kid's catalogs is that you click on 16 icons to get to a screen |
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that says your item is at the Collin Creek location, Juvenile Non-Fiction, J597.45 Foo, Available |
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collum |
There's got to be a better way to express availability. |
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jdavidb |
change the "available" to a thumbs-up icon, anything else to thumbs-down? |
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(or cooler yet--sort on availability, so available items bubble to the top!) |
| 14:50 |
collum |
I'm thinking RFID tags with GPS. :) |
| 14:50 |
jdavidb |
I was hacking on something with SD's to highlight a map of the library with the right range, as well as showing the call number, when I left there. |
| 14:52 |
collum |
Yep. That would be nice for kids and adults. |
| 14:53 |
jdavidb |
The "you are here" part is what had me stumped, without using named-workstations, how to tell which OPAC they're on, or even if they're inside the library or not. We wanted this business to work on the iphone doodad I was also tinkering with at the time. |
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hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: am I right to think that clay uploaded the tarball on download.koha.org ? |
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gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: which tarball? 3.2 alpha is up |
| 15:00 |
hdl_laptop |
yes |
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I wanted to check taht out since I mostly use git |
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biglego |
morning everyone |
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gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: the bugfixes we discussed a few days ago - are they ready for me to pull? |
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hdl_laptop |
still working on them |
| 15:09 |
gmcharlt |
ok |
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hdl_laptop |
shoudl be ok tomorrow |
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or by the end of the week |
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biglego |
PDF::API2::Simple is giving me fits trying to install won't force any ideas? |
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ubuntu 9.10 installing via git |
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chris_n |
biglego: I seem to remember issues with that module |
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maybe cd into the source directory and do 'perl Makefile.PL && make && make test' to see more clues as to what's wrong |
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biglego |
sudo perl ./Makefile.PL |
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Can't locate inc/Module/Install.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at ./Makefile.PL line 1. |
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BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ./Makefile.PL line 1. |
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kohaubuntu:~/PDF-API2-Simple-1.1.4$ |
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schuster |
I had to do the cpan MODULE::Install - to get the rest of it to work I believe. |
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gmcharlt |
biglego: schuster has it |
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schuster |
AMAZING I actually had the answer to a technical question! Only because I lived it. |
| 15:29 |
gmcharlt |
schuster: thus do you gain true knowledge, grasshopper |
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jwagner |
schuster++ |
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biglego |
cool thanks schuster that worked |
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schuster |
@Bug 4146 - so to get these into the documentation for 3.2 - I should edit the INSTALL.debian-lenny document and send a patch? or has someone already done this? I see Liz put in a couple of bugs but they were Ubuntu? @bug 4151 |
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munin |
schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4146 major, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, dependancies needed for installation |
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schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]show_bug.cgi?id=- could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId |
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schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]how_bug.cgi?id=so could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId |
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schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]how_bug.cgi?id=to could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId |
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schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=get could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId |
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schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]_bug.cgi?id=these could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId |
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schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=into could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId |
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schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=the could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId |
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schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]?id=documentation could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId |
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schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=for could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId |
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schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]show_bug.cgi?id=3 normal, P2, ---, chrisbigballofwax.co.nz, RESOLVED FIXED, mod_env module checking in installer.pl |
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schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]show_bug.cgi?id=2 normal, P2, ---, chrisbigballofwax.co.nz, RESOLVED FIXED, Need appropriate graphic for admin scripts |
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schuster |
Sorry drat |
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nengard |
uh oh!!! |
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munin |
schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]show_bug.cgi?id=- could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId |
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schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]bug.cgi?id=should could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId |
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schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=edit could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId |
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schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=the could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId |
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schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]ug.cgi?id=INSTALL could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId |
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schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]i?id=debian-lenny could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId |
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schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]g.cgi?id=document could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId |
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schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=and could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId |
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nengard |
how do you kill munin? |
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munin |
schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]show_bug.cgi?id=a could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId |
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nengard |
gmcharlt around? can you kill munin? |
| 15:41 |
munin |
schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]bug.cgi?id=Ubuntu could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId |
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schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4151 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, Document new perl modules for those upgrading |
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schuster |
It's done now. |
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nengard |
wow |
| 15:41 |
schuster |
goes to corner and hides. |
| 15:41 |
nengard |
hehe |
| 15:42 |
gmcharlt |
@quote random |
| 15:42 |
munin |
gmcharlt: Quote #35: "<sekjal> it seemed like a good idea at the time...." (added by jwagner at 02:58 PM, September 17, 2009) |
| 15:44 |
gmcharlt |
that was odd |
| 15:45 |
schuster |
Leave it to me... odd... |
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ebegin |
@wunder montreal, quebec |
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munin |
ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is -2.0�C (10:00 AM EST on February 16, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Falling). |
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paul_p |
schuster: it's munin that should run to the corner and hide !!! |
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moodaepo |
@wunder 56001 |
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moodaepo: The current temperature in Mankato, Minnesota is -9.0�C (9:35 AM CST on February 16, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -17.0�C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 15:56 |
owen |
Interesting...so much for YakPak. |
| 16:03 |
schuster |
Yakity Yak don't talk back... |
| 16:04 |
rhcl |
Koha 3.00.04.019 -- Can't call method "progress" on an undefined value at .... when trying to enter (stage) Marc records order |
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worked the second time, and I don't see anything in bugs, so not to worry about? |
| 16:05 |
* chris_n |
thinks you can't make much progress that way :-) |
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| 16:06 |
hilongo |
hello all :) |
| 16:08 |
kf |
gmcharlt: just saw your mail about thesauruses - would 'including the thesaurus in the bib headings indexes' mean that you could search for see also / see references without using authority search? |
| 16:09 |
gmcharlt |
kf: not as such |
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including the thesarus when indexing bib headings would make it possible to do a headings browse that didn't *require* authority records |
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but if you want see / see also references, you gotta have authority records |
| 16:10 |
kf |
gmcharlt: not sure I understand it. |
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gmcharlt: we miss the option to search for i.e. the pseudonym and just find everything from the author published under various names without using authority search (its not really user friendly). |
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chris_n++ #for fine amounts in overdue notices |
| 16:16 |
gmcharlt |
kf: yep, I understand - needs work to get it to work |
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a project I'll consider working on for 3.4 |
| 16:18 |
kf |
gmcharlt: I m sorry I can just say its something we would really like - not able to fund it or do it myself right now :( |
| 16:18 |
schuster |
likes gmcharlt's projects ... :) |
| 16:20 |
kf |
me too |
| 16:20 |
* owen |
is thrilled that gmcharlt is going to get to keep working on Koha |
| 16:25 |
schuster |
@bug 2930 - I am unable to email this directly to patches using git but the patch is attached to the bug. I didn't see it "accepted yet" so was just "reminding". |
| 16:25 |
munin |
schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2930 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, Put other name on CKO screen |
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| 16:26 |
schuster |
Here I go again... dang |
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munin |
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| 16:27 |
gmcharlt |
schuster: you can just do |
| 16:27 |
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bug 2930 - I am unable to email this directly to patches using git but the patch is attached to the bug. I didn't see it "accepted yet" so was just "reminding". |
| 16:27 |
munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2930 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, Put other name on CKO screen |
| 16:27 |
gmcharlt |
do the @ form only if you just give the bug number |
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viz |
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@bug 2930 |
| 16:27 |
munin |
gmcharlt: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2930 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, Put other name on CKO screen |
| 16:29 |
schuster |
Now if I can get my brain to remember it! |
| 16:31 |
Ropuch |
Having terminal filled with red instead of green was refreshing ;> |
| 16:35 |
schuster |
So tonight I want to get all the patches to my "test" 3.2 instance - so all I have to do is cd to the kohaclone directory and do git pull and it will update... Just checking. |
| 16:35 |
gmcharlt |
yep |
| 16:36 |
schuster |
when is it necessary to do the rebase ? |
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| 16:37 |
gmcharlt |
just do; cd kohaclone; git fetch; git rebase origin |
| 16:38 |
schuster |
then skip the git pull? or still do that? because the fetch will update everything already right? |
| 16:41 |
gmcharlt |
if you do git fetch + git rebase , no need to do git pull |
| 16:41 |
schuster |
thanks just checking. |
| 16:44 |
ebegin |
does munin support google search? If so, what is the correct syntax? |
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| 16:51 |
gmcharlt |
ebegin: not at the moment |
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plugin exists, but needs to be updated as it currently uses a Google search API that is no longer supported |
| 16:52 |
ebegin |
i see. thanks galen |
| 16:57 |
jwagner |
Hope someone is on who understands authority records in Koha. One of my people is saying that when editing an authority record the system says it can't save because field 942 (Koha auth type) is empty. I need to get more info from the user, but is there a configuration change that should be done? |
| 16:58 |
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It looks like that 942 setting in the authority record refers to the type of authority it is -- PERSO_NAME, UNIF_TITLE, etc. Is that correct? |
| 16:58 |
kf |
my first thought too |
| 17:00 |
jwagner |
The one authority record she referenced seemed to have the UNIF_TITLE in it; not sure if she added it or it got added automatically. As I said, I need to get more info from her. |
| 17:03 |
kf |
time to catch my bus - bye #koha, bbl |
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| 17:04 |
gmcharlt |
jwagner: 942$a indeed stores the authority type |
| 17:05 |
jwagner |
And those are the entries under Home � Administration � Authority Types ? |
| 17:05 |
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If someone is editing or hand-creating an authority record, they need to fill in the codes from that page? |
| 17:08 |
gmcharlt |
no, shouldn't have to - unless they added a new authority framework or did something screwey, Koha hands the 942$a transparently |
| 17:08 |
jwagner |
It seemed like it SHOULD do that anyway. Have to figure out exactly what she did & see if I can reproduce it. But at least I'm on the right track. |
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| 17:47 |
sekjal |
performed an upgrade from 3.0.3 to 3.0.5 (production installation), then rebooted my Ubuntu server. When it comes back up, it can't Koha |
| 17:47 |
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"the requested URL / was not found on this server" |
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didn't think I'd changed anything sufficient to break this, but apparently so |
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any pointers? |
| 17:47 |
Ropuch |
Is apache running? |
| 17:48 |
sekjal |
yes |
| 17:49 |
Ropuch |
Anything in logs? (apache/koha)? |
| 17:51 |
sekjal |
getting a lot of "file does not exist: /htdocs" in apache2 error.log |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.1�C (9:50 AM PST on February 16, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Rising). |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.1�C (9:50 AM PST on February 16, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Rising). |
| 17:56 |
Ropuch |
sekjal: look at /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha |
| 17:57 |
sekjal |
Ropuch: it exists, and is properly pointing to my koha-httpd.conf file |
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which didn't seem to change when I performed the upgrade |
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is /etc/apache2/httpd.conf supposed to be empty? |
| 18:01 |
Ropuch |
It's ok |
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| 18:10 |
sekjal |
looking at my other installation's configuration files |
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| 18:39 |
nengard |
got a serials question |
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how do i print a routing list? |
| 18:40 |
jwagner |
nengard, I don't think you can. |
| 18:40 |
nengard |
you used to be able to |
| 18:40 |
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if youcan't print it then how do you get the routing list when you receive a serial? |
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| 18:47 |
cabillman |
sekjal: were you able to resolve your issue? I had the same problem until I fixed my sites-enabled/koha |
| 18:47 |
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I have no idea why it stopped working for me either... |
| 18:47 |
jwagner |
nengard, my bad, you can print a routing slip under the older code (we're running .061) by editing a routing slip, adding or deleting someone, then saving. Then there's the option to Preview Routing Slip which allows you to print it. That's not present in the 3.2 code? |
| 18:48 |
nengard |
jwagner - nope - seems to have gone away |
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chris - you did some serials patches - did you remove it for a reason? |
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OH WAIT - I FOUND IT |
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but I have a bone to pick with the design which needs work so that searching for a print button isn't so hard |
| 18:51 |
jwagner |
nengard, I just tried it on a 3.2 setup and in .061. In .061, when you clicked to add someone, it did the lookup and then added it back in the original screen. In 3.2 it seems to do the lookup and add it in the new popup screen; if you close that one you lose the add. |
| 18:52 |
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If you select from the list of patrons that the 3.2 screen presents, it works OK, but not if you search for a patron. |
| 18:53 |
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I think there should be a nice simple "print routing list" link on the sidebar menu to begin with. |
| 18:53 |
jdavidb |
*simple*, jwagner? you're in the wrong business. |
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* jdavidb |
just heard his father's voice in his head, saying, "If you want simple, go work at McDonalds." |
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| 18:56 |
jwagner |
You want fries with that, jdavidb? |
| 18:56 |
jdavidb |
yis! |
| 18:57 |
* jwagner |
hands jdavidb an order of fries |
| 18:57 |
jwagner |
nengard, can you replicate the problem I had with searching for a patron to add? You're on a more up-to-date 3.2 version than I am. |
| 18:58 |
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If so, there needs to be a bug report on it (if there isn't one already) |
| 18:58 |
nengard |
jwagner - was writing up bug 4199 -- will test now |
| 18:58 |
munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4199 normal, P5, ---, paul.poulainbiblibre.com, NEW, no way to print routing list on serial receive |
| 18:58 |
* jwagner |
muses "wasn't it just yesterday when somebody was marvelling that we'd hit bug number 4000?" |
| 18:58 |
sekjal |
cabillman: seem to have fixed that problem, found a new one. |
| 18:59 |
nengard |
jwagner - yes it is a bug - a big one :( |
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i'll write up a report for that too |
| 18:59 |
jwagner |
I'll let you create the bug report then. |
| 18:59 |
nengard |
:) |
| 19:00 |
sekjal |
getting too many connections, and I'm not sure why |
| 19:03 |
jdavidb |
Okay, here's a new one on me...brand-new install, from HEAD as of about 10 minutes ago, on freshly-upgraded Lenny server...perl Makefile.PL is giving me this: |
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Makefile.PL: Warning: prerequisite Graphics::Magick not found. |
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....but CPAN has no clue what that is... |
| 19:08 |
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nevermind...found it in the IRC logs from last week, while I was away.. |
| 19:08 |
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jwagner++ |
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@karma jdavidb |
| 19:10 |
munin |
jdavidb: Karma for "jdavidb" has been increased 11 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 11. |
| 19:10 |
jdavidb |
:) |
| 19:10 |
nengard |
oo cool - what's my karma? |
| 19:10 |
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@karma nengard |
| 19:10 |
munin |
nengard: Karma for "nengard" has been increased 78 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 78. |
| 19:10 |
jdavidb |
woot! |
| 19:10 |
nengard |
woo hoo I'm cooler than jdavidb :) hehe |
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sorry - just had to say it :) |
| 19:11 |
jwagner |
@karma jwagner |
| 19:11 |
munin |
jwagner: Karma for "jwagner" has been increased 18 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 18. |
| 19:11 |
jdavidb |
I knew that without asking munin, nengard. |
| 19:12 |
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Gotta figure out what I can do different--year and a half of being here, and I've only got 11. Cookies, maybe? |
| 19:12 |
* jwagner |
says cookies might help. Or maybe that French toast we were talking about this morning :-) |
| 19:13 |
jwagner |
Will trade karma for food. Hmmmmm. |
| 19:13 |
jdavidb |
hmmmm... |
| 19:13 |
jwagner |
There's probably something immoral about that :-( |
| 19:14 |
jdavidb |
All the best things in life are illegal, immoral, or fattening. Or some combination. |
| 19:14 |
jwagner |
Well, we could hit two out of three. Depending on what you put IN the food, of course :-) |
| 19:15 |
jdavidb |
hmmmmm. |
| 19:16 |
brendan |
@karma brendan |
| 19:16 |
munin |
brendan: Karma for "brendan" has been increased 15 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 15. |
| 19:17 |
brendan |
:) |
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@karma bywater |
| 19:17 |
munin |
brendan: Karma for "bywater" has been increased 5 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 5. |
| 19:17 |
owen-away |
Sorry jdavidb, for all three it's gonna have to be Foie Gras |
| 19:17 |
jdavidb |
owen, that's just icky. |
| 19:17 |
* jwagner |
wants to make some witty comment about sauce for the goose, but I think I'll refrain..... |
| 19:20 |
jdavidb |
@karma PTFS |
| 19:20 |
munin |
jdavidb: PTFS has neutral karma. |
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jdavidb |
:/ |
| 19:21 |
brendan |
;) |
| 19:25 |
rhcl |
ping wizzyrea |
| 19:25 |
sekjal |
rebooted my Ubuntu Koha server, and everything worked fine for about 30 seconds. now everything is lagging out until I get "too many connection" errors |
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do I just need to be patient? |
| 19:27 |
chris_n |
sekjal: maybe it's some sort of ddos attack? |
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sekjal |
any good way to check on that? |
| 19:29 |
rhcl |
disconnect you lan cable and see what happens |
| 19:29 |
chris_n |
firewall logs |
| 19:29 |
rhcl |
s/you/your |
| 19:29 |
chris_n |
that too |
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chris_n |
or maybe a spider gone mad? |
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sekjal |
will see if I can find firewall logs |
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sekjal |
nope, can't find any firewall logs. the errors I'm finding are indicating that the clients reporting the errors are staff machines. |
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probably Circ or TS trying to get some work done today |
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sekjal |
looking at my mysql process list shows a done of queries on teh sessions table |
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chris |
sekjal: have you checked the access logs? could it be dns? |
| 19:58 |
DebJo |
Morning all |
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DebJo is now known as Jo |
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brendan |
morning jo chris |
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chris_n |
hi chris, DebJo |
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Jo even |
| 20:00 |
chris |
sekjal: and it might be worth upping the max connections available in apache |
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sekjal |
access.log is empty |
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currently running 100 connections, which is the default max, as I recall |
| 20:04 |
chris |
what about the 2 koha access logs? |
| 20:04 |
sekjal |
should consider upping that, yes |
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chris: I think I checked those, but I'm a little fuzzy right now. ::eats:: |
| 20:05 |
chris |
(if the transferlog line is commented out in your koha-httpd.conf consider uncommenting them) |
| 20:07 |
* chris_n |
accidentally spams himself with overdue notices |
| 20:14 |
chris_n |
can anyone confirm that the Check Out link on circulation-home.pl is incorrect? |
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latest HEAD, I should add |
| 20:14 |
chris |
ill look |
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gmcharlt |
gadzooks |
| 20:16 |
chris |
seems ok here |
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chris_n |
chris: so a blank page with only the checkout in the header is what is expected? |
| 20:16 |
gmcharlt |
just slightly confusing, perhaps, need to look up to scan the patorn barcode in global search box |
| 20:16 |
chris |
yeah |
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* chris_n |
agrees... |
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chris_n |
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| 20:17 |
gmcharlt |
chris_n: and since when did you start working for Big Blue? |
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;) |
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chris_n |
lol |
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is it typical to not send overdue notices to library staff? |
| 20:19 |
chris |
it is for a lot of libraries |
| 20:19 |
schuster |
chris can you expound on what this means? (if the transferlog line is commented out in your koha-httpd.conf consider uncommenting them) |
| 20:19 |
owen-away |
The staff are the worst! They've all got overdues, myself included. |
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| 20:19 |
sekjal |
is it normal to take 22 minutes to check the sessions table in the koha db? that strikes me as excessive |
| 20:20 |
chris |
that is totally excessive |
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it should be in the order of milliseconds |
| 20:20 |
chris_n |
ouch |
| 20:20 |
schuster |
means you have a VERY large Sessions table - which starts to slow down response times. |
| 20:20 |
chris |
how many rows are in the sessions table? |
| 20:20 |
chris_n |
time to truncate |
| 20:20 |
sekjal |
could count them in a timely fashion, my fellow technician reported |
| 20:20 |
schuster |
I believe jdavidb has done a patch to be built as a cron to fix that in the future. |
| 20:21 |
chris_n |
owen: so you all do not send notices to staff? |
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sekjal |
s/could/couldn't/ |
| 20:21 |
chris |
right |
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schuster |
chris in my production system the transferlog line is commented out in 3.0 |
| 20:21 |
chris |
what i would do, (because a truncate will take ages) |
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owen |
chris_n: We do (email notices) |
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jdavidb |
That one is in HEAD, I think, schuster. |
| 20:21 |
chris |
is mysqldump that table --no-data |
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drop the table |
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and recreate it |
| 20:21 |
schuster |
There he is - I wanted to make sure you got credit for it! |
| 20:22 |
wizzyrea_ |
schuster: do you ever have a problem where you scan an item and something totally different comes up |
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but the next time you scan it, it's correct |
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sekjal |
chris: what indexes are on it? we can't even get that query to come back quickly? |
| 20:22 |
jdavidb |
Thanks, schuster! :) |
| 20:22 |
schuster |
I truncate and optimize. |
| 20:22 |
chris |
dont truncate |
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truncate will take hours |
| 20:23 |
schuster |
wizzyrea - are you sure it scaned what you thought it did? |
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chris |
drop and recreate |
| 20:23 |
schuster |
I have had several times where the scanner did a miss read. |
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drop scares me... |
| 20:23 |
chris |
sekjal: there are some indexes on it, wont help with a count tho |
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wizzyrea_ |
well I only have anecdotal reports |
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"i scanned Hamlet and it gave me the Bucket List DVD" for example |
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chris |
mysqldump -uroot -p koha --no-data --add-drop-table sessions > sessions.sql |
| 20:24 |
wizzyrea_ |
"then I scanned it again and it brought up Hamlet" |
| 20:24 |
schuster |
Since you have merged several locations you are sure ALL barcodes are unique... Were they all the same length? |
| 20:24 |
wizzyrea_ |
afaik all barcodes are unique |
| 20:24 |
chris |
mysql -uroot -p koha < sessions.sql |
| 20:25 |
schuster |
We did have a problem when a vendor sent us some barcodes 1, 2, 3 etc... and when you typed in 1 it pulled up a title. |
| 20:25 |
chris |
will give you an empty sessions table |
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sekjal |
chris: thanks! I'll give that a whirl |
| 20:25 |
chris |
you can also switch it to use files in the meantime |
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(while you do that) |
| 20:26 |
wizzyrea_ |
Today at 2:35 pm was checking out a book Evidence (Barcode 3HFPL00026719K) to (Horton City Patron). What came up on her record was a A Bright Shining Lie, a DVD in Atchison (Barcode 00032000009334). Called Atchison and had them check in the item by the barcorde to get it off patron's checkout list. |
| 20:26 |
chris |
so that ppl can still use koha while you are fixing the session table |
| 20:26 |
wizzyrea_ |
I don't see anyting common about those barcodes |
| 20:26 |
schuster |
What I would suggest wizzyrea - is next time they see that to do the back button to the input prompt and see what it says...??? |
| 20:26 |
chris |
sekjal: SessionStorage is the syspref |
| 20:26 |
wizzyrea_ |
that's a good idea, it's probably just a mis-read |
| 20:27 |
chris |
sekjal: you could toggle that to temporary files |
| 20:27 |
schuster |
Wow that is really off. - |
| 20:27 |
chris |
just until your session table is fixed |
| 20:27 |
wizzyrea_ |
we usually make our libraries rebarcode if they don't have 13-15 digit barcodes |
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schuster |
Does atchison seem to have a LOT of ILL? those leading zeros concern me - they shouldn't but... |
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I also have them SCAN the barcode into the email because sometimes the scanner shows something different than what is printed. |
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Always freaks out the librarian that they can use the scanner in something other than Koha. |
| 20:35 |
wizzyrea_ |
yes, in fact the dvd from atchison above is an incorrect (probably typo) barcode |
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wizzyrea_ |
the reason I ask you schuster, is because you've had that problem with super busy server where items look checked in but actually aren't |
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and I'm wondering if it's related |
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plus, our versions are pretty close |
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wizzyrea_ |
doh |
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schuster |
whats wrong homer? |
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wizzyrea_ |
oh I said something to you but you were not in channel lol |
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the reason I ask you schuster, is because you've had that problem with super busy server where items look checked in but actually aren't |
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and I'm wondering if it's related |
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plus, our versions are pretty close |
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there |
| 20:47 |
sekjal |
alright, our Koha is back. just have a minor URL issue, but that's a convenience, not crucial |
| 20:48 |
chris |
it was the sessions table eh? |
| 20:50 |
sekjal |
once we switched off to tmp files, things improved |
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my colleague is working on fixing the sessions table, but he's also getting bombarded with other work right now, so I'm glad we have a temporary fix |
| 20:51 |
chris |
yep |
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just watch your /tmp |
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you dont want that to fill up |
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sekjal |
chris: will do. Thank you so much for your assistance |
| 20:51 |
chris |
no problemo |
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chris |
cait: pootle should be back now |
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cait |
hi chris and thank you |
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I noticed at work and gmcharlt sait I should let you know :) |
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chris_n |
bbl |
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schuster |
bug 3536 |
| 21:14 |
munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3536 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, chrisbigballofwax.co.nz, ASSIGNED, Checked In item requiring transfer does not consistently trigger transfer prompt |
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schuster |
I suspect this hasn't been pulled into head? I am still seeing this as a problem - Library A book is checked out at B - library B checks it in transfer request pops up, book ends up at C and checkin just says not out. |
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Homebranch is library A... |
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Now holding branch is C.... |
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hdl_laptop |
cait: still there ? |
| 21:22 |
brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
| 21:22 |
munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 21.4�C (1:16 PM PST on February 16, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Falling). |
| 21:22 |
brendan |
hiya hdl_laptop |
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hdl_laptop |
hi brendan |
| 21:22 |
brendan |
wow 21.4 can you get close to that chris |
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cait |
hdl_laptop: yes |
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schuster |
@wunder 75035 |
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munin |
schuster: The current temperature in Stonebrook, Frisco, Texas is 9.1�C (3:20 PM CST on February 16, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022.2 hPa (Falling). |
| 21:23 |
schuster |
brrr.... |
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wizzyrea_ |
ooh, the afternoon weather check |
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owen |
@wunder 45701 |
| 21:23 |
munin |
owen: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is -2.8�C (4:16 PM EST on February 16, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -7.0�C. Pressure: 29.76 in 1007.7 hPa (Steady). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until noon EST Wednesday... |
| 21:24 |
schuster |
yes what is it in Kansas? @witchita KS |
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wizzyrea_ |
@wunder 66047 |
| 21:24 |
munin |
wizzyrea_: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is -0.6�C (3:21 PM CST on February 16, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1023.6 hPa (Falling). |
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wizzyrea_ |
Brr |
| 21:24 |
chris |
@wunder wellington nz |
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munin |
chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (9:00 AM NZDT on February 17, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:25 |
schuster |
OWEN Wins the BRR contest!! with that you get 6 inches of snow! |
| 21:25 |
wizzyrea_ |
not a particularly warm summer |
| 21:25 |
chris |
thats pretty average for wellington |
| 21:25 |
wizzyrea_ |
WIN |
| 21:25 |
chris |
we never get super hot, or super cold |
| 21:25 |
* brendan |
gets top marks for temp today |
| 21:26 |
brendan |
thinking this is hotter than I remember our summer being last year |
| 21:26 |
schuster |
brendan but are you drying out at all.. |
| 21:27 |
brendan |
it's spring here so it's pretty wet... loads of flowers and green grass |
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braedon|work |
@wunder tauranga nz |
| 21:27 |
munin |
braedon|work: The current temperature in Tauranga Aerodrome Aws, New Zealand is 20.0�C (10:00 AM NZDT on February 17, 2010). Conditions: . Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
| 21:27 |
brendan |
nows the best time of the year, here |
| 21:28 |
sekjal |
fun new error when trying to check out: |
| 21:28 |
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No branchcode argument to new. Should be C4::Calendar->new(branchcode => $branchcode) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Circulation.pm line 2387 |
| 21:30 |
chris |
you have a branch selected? |
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(up in the top right) |
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sekjal |
yup, branch is selected |
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chris |
weird, havent seen that one before |
| 21:35 |
sekjal |
I'm on template = prog, and I'm pretty sure it's current |
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(that was the problem last time I got weird errors) |
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also, my serials 'checkin' buttons have disappeared |
| 21:36 |
chris |
this all worked on your test server eh? |
| 21:36 |
sekjal |
yup |
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I think today is just in the mood to hate me. |
| 21:37 |
chris |
heh |
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brendan |
sekjal++ |
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maybe some good karma will help |
| 21:40 |
sekjal |
thanks, brendan |
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sekjal |
and I can't pull from git.koha.org, because the restart wiped the information |
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wizzyrea_ |
!! what a terrible day! |
| 21:45 |
sekjal |
but I remember this one... just got to look up how I dealt with it |
| 21:45 |
wizzyrea_ |
for you, sekjal. :( |
| 21:46 |
sekjal |
thanks, wizzyrea_. it sure is! in fact, factoring in yesterday, I've got a good jump on a terrible week |
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wizzyrea_ |
boo |
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hdl_laptop |
wizzyrea_: you scared cait away :D |
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cait |
noooo... I closed the window by accident |
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hdl_laptop |
hehe was just kidding |
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cait |
i m clumsy |
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:) |
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wizzyrea_ |
EEK! I mean, oh. |
| 22:04 |
sekjal |
alright, can't see straight anymore. going to call it a night, get some rest, and try again tomorrow. thank you all for your help; I really appreciate it |
| 22:05 |
schuster |
Yep fat tuesday today!!! for us Catholics so need to go whoop it up tonight see you all tomorrow - and looking forward to my git pull tonight... Yep I'm getting old... |
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cait |
good night #koha |
| 22:12 |
chris |
night cait |
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chris_n |
night |
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@wunder 28334 |
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munin |
chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 5.0�C (5:01 PM EST on February 16, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: -12.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1009 hPa (Falling). |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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munin |
cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -2.0�C (11:00 PM CET on February 16, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Falling). |
| 22:13 |
brendan |
night cait |
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cait |
:) |
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IrmaCalyx |
Morning all |
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chris |
hi IrmaCalyx |
| 22:33 |
brendan |
heya IrmaCalyx |
| 22:33 |
IrmaCalyx |
We had good progress with Walter yesterday |
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EESI implementation of Koha + Kete ^.^ |
| 22:34 |
chris |
cool |
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IrmaCalyx |
hi brendan |
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chilts |
EESI? |
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IrmaCalyx |
Environemntal Earth Sciences : a large private geology consultancy |
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my first Koha client in 2003 |
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chilts |
cool :) |
| 22:36 |
IrmaCalyx |
thanks |
| 22:36 |
brendan |
yeah cool :) |
| 22:36 |
IrmaCalyx |
How lucky am I to have Walter here in person |
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michael is now known as MichaelCalyx |
| 22:37 |
IrmaCalyx |
Walter McGinnis is the lead developer for Kete |
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MichaelCalyx |
Hi everyone |
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IrmaCalyx |
chilts..where are you located? |
| 22:38 |
chilts |
4 floors down from Chris (in Wellington) |
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Catalyst too :) |
| 22:38 |
IrmaCalyx |
++ |
| 22:38 |
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May I introduce Michael Hogwood ... |
| 22:38 |
MichaelCalyx |
Hello |
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chilts |
hell MichaelCalyx |
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oopse |
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hello |
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:) |
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chris |
hi Michael |
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IrmaCalyx |
MichaelCalyx is one of my IT colleagues/support/saviour |
| 22:39 |
brendan |
hi MichaelCalyx |
| 22:39 |
MichaelCalyx |
:) |
| 22:39 |
IrmaCalyx |
Michael is located in Bath UK |
| 22:39 |
chris |
must be pretty late there |
| 22:40 |
chilts |
ah, Bath and Bristol PerlMongers is meant to be nice :) |
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isn't MJRay around there? |
| 22:40 |
MichaelCalyx |
Yes, almost 11pm but I am a night owl |
| 22:40 |
IrmaCalyx |
MJRay is close to Bristol ... at the coast... very windy cold place right now .. |
| 22:40 |
chris |
kewstoke |
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in somerset |
| 22:43 |
MichaelCalyx |
I was wondering if anyone knew how, or could point me in the right direction, to hide the content of OpacNav from users who aren't logged in? |
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or more simply, how can I make the OPAC private? |
| 22:48 |
chris |
theres no existing way to do that |
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you would have to edit the scripts, like opac-main.pl |
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and take out authnotrequired => 1, |
| 22:50 |
chilts |
if it's private to a network, you could use Allow/Deny in Apache (if I understand the problem) |
| 22:50 |
chris |
i think they only want logged in users to see it chilts |
| 22:51 |
MichaelCalyx |
Fair enough, I was hoping it could be achieved through System Preferences alone but using authnotrequired might be the best approach for now. |
| 22:51 |
chilts |
ah right |
| 22:51 |
chris |
MichaelCalyx: if you wanted to do it right |
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you would make that line controlled by a syspref |
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MichaelCalyx |
OK, thanks for your help, much appreciated :) |
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chris |
np |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
| 23:45 |
munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 21.2�C (3:42 PM PST on February 16, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Falling). |
| 23:46 |
brendan |
was just outside and it's nice :) |
| 23:47 |
ebegin |
Is there a way to know if all perl modules are installed other that running perl Makefile.PL and answer all questions? |
| 23:48 |
brendan |
how about under > About Koha > perl modules |
| 23:48 |
ebegin |
Before the installation ;) |
| 23:48 |
brendan |
ah |
| 23:56 |
gmcharlt |
ebegin: there should be a better way, but it *is* safe to rerun perl Makefile.PL for real |
| 23:56 |
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after you run it the first time to check your dependencies |
