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| 00:05 | cait left #koha | |
| 00:18 | Genji | anyone going to respond to liblime and ptfs falling out? |
| 00:18 | chris | respond how? |
| 00:19 | Genji | unsure. no ones discussed it. |
| 00:20 | * gmcharlt | strokes beard, says "It's all very interesting" |
| 00:20 | Genji | its like no ones taken note of it. |
| 00:20 | gmcharlt | Genji: there was some chatter on #koha, a small blizzard of tweets, a Library Journal article, and so forth |
| 00:20 | however ... | |
| 00:21 | ultimately the truth of whatever happened is likely to be known only by the companies involved | |
| 00:21 | chris | yeah, it doesnt really concern us so much, its more for liblime clients |
| 00:21 | Genji | how does this affect our bid of getting koha.org under community control? |
| 00:21 | chris | its at the same place it was before, totally unknown |
| 00:22 | my current plan is let liblime and its customers sort themselves out, and lets just get back to working on koha | |
| 00:24 | Genji | and as for koha publicity driving traffic to liblime instead of koha-community? |
| 00:24 | gmcharlt | Genji: that's a game for the long haul - whichever site is actually more useful for ordinary Koha users will get the Google juice |
| 00:24 | chris | point people to koha-community when they ask |
| 00:24 | thats about all we can do | |
| 00:24 | Genji | Welcome to koha.org! � Koha - Open Source ILS - Integrated Library ... |
| 00:24 | An open source library system for public libraries which includes catalog searches and member organizing. | |
| 00:24 | www.koha.org/ | |
| 00:25 | and fourth down... | |
| 00:25 | Koha Open Source ILS | |
| 00:25 | 2 Feb 2010 ... Staff Interface Demo site for the Staff interface of the Koha ILS. Username = bywater Password = bywater. Miss a post? ... | |
| 00:25 | koha-community.org/ | |
| 00:25 | eh.... needs some Search optimization... | |
| 00:25 | chris | 4th after only 2 weeks |
| 00:25 | doesnt seem bad to me | |
| 00:26 | gmcharlt | Genji: what search did you do, exactly? |
| 00:26 | Genji | oh.. i searched for 'koha ils', btw. |
| 00:27 | braedon|work | third page for "koha" |
| 00:27 | Genji | ranks 1 through to 3 are liblime sites. |
| 00:27 | chris | yeah, not too worried |
| 00:27 | like galen said, put up useful content and it will move up the rankings | |
| 00:28 | Genji | koha library .... our old savannah site pops up before any koha-community site. |
| 00:29 | chris | well its about 6 years older, so bound to be more links to it :) |
| 00:32 | Genji | 7th down, bywater gets a mention in 'koha library' .. its the first koha-community related link un liblime related. |
| 00:33 | gmcharlt | Genji: yeah, need to ask wizzyrea to fix that so that koha-community.org ends up with a better summary in Google search results |
| 00:34 | Genji | for 'open source ils' second page, four down it, the first koha-community link. first one was Evergreen, and when koha was mentioned, it was liblime site. |
| 00:35 | so..... yes, some optimization might be good... | |
| 00:41 | gmcharlt | chris: please give my compliments to Will. I've pushed his patches |
| 00:41 | chris | will do :) |
| 00:42 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
| 00:42 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 19.5�C (4:40 PM PST on February 14, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015.1 hPa (Falling). |
| 00:43 | brendan | wow was hot today |
| 00:43 | :) | |
| 00:43 | chris | @wunder wellington nz |
| 00:43 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0�C (1:00 PM NZDT on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 00:43 | chris | yep, beating me |
| 01:15 | rich-away is now known as richard | |
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| 01:24 | braedon|work | @wunder tauranga nz |
| 01:24 | munin | braedon|work: The current temperature in Tauranga Aerodrome Aws, New Zealand is 23.0�C (1:00 PM NZDT on February 15, 2010). Conditions: . Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
| 01:53 | Jo joined #koha | |
| 01:53 | Jo | hola |
| 01:54 | Chris / Russ : either of you about? | |
| 01:55 | I have to make the first payment for the kohacon venue today and $ are about to become an issue ... | |
| 01:55 | any idea how long we will need to bankroll KohaCon? ( afew days / weeks is fine) | |
| 01:57 | russ | ?? |
| 01:57 | bankroll as in pay for? | |
| 01:57 | or bankroll as in hold the account? | |
| 01:58 | chris | ill talk to biblibre tonight and see if they can hit the paypal button |
| 01:58 | we just need to pay a quarter at this stage eh? | |
| 01:59 | how much is it jo? | |
| 01:59 | * russ | obviously misread |
| 02:00 | Jo | $1046 |
| 02:00 | bankroll as in pay | |
| 02:00 | chris | cool, i think with the biblibre amount plus what libriotech donated, we should have that |
| 02:01 | ill talk to them tonight | |
| 02:01 | Jo | very good. I will pay by cheque and can cover it in the interim |
| 02:01 | chris | thank you |
| 02:01 | russ | thanks jo |
| 02:01 | Jo | Next payment not until 25 Sept so plenty of time |
| 02:01 | chris | *nod* |
| 02:03 | russ | we will be a lot more organised by then :-) |
| 02:06 | Jo | its good mate - just need to know we can cover it from donations |
| 02:08 | russ | that reminds me - i need chris to proof something before irc meeting tomorrow |
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| 03:09 | * chris_n | finds www.openstreetmap.org |
| 03:24 | Jo | Brendan: Thanks buddy for the donation to KohaCon 2010 ( we are now solvent :) |
| 03:24 | brendan | :) |
| 03:25 | chris | yay brendan |
| 03:25 | bywater++ | |
| 03:25 | Jo | when I grow I am going to get a job where I don't have to micromanage every dollar ... oh wait - that means I can't be a public librarian! |
| 03:26 | bywater++ | |
| 03:26 | brendan | so true jo |
| 03:26 | Jo | libriotech++ |
| 03:26 | :) | |
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| 03:33 | Amit | heya brendan |
| 03:33 | chris_n | fwiw: nice open source routable gps maps: http://garmin.na1400.info/routable.php |
| 03:33 | heya Amit | |
| 03:33 | Amit | heya chris_n |
| 03:33 | chris_n | bywater++ |
| 03:47 | brendan | hi amit |
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| 04:26 | nod_ | css is broken on mailman |
| 04:26 | it points at http://koha.org/includes/css/screen.css | |
| 04:26 | which doesnt exist | |
| 04:27 | http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/subscribe/koha | |
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| 06:44 | Ropuch | Morning #koha |
| 07:24 | chris | hi Ropuch |
| 07:26 | Ropuch | Hi chris |
| 07:28 | chris | nod_: should be better now |
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| 08:09 | nicomo | hi all |
| 08:09 | chris | hi nicomo |
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| 08:16 | nicomo | hi chris |
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| 08:27 | kf | good morning |
| 08:28 | chris | hi kf |
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| 08:35 | kf | hi chris |
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| 08:52 | kf | oooh recommendations! http://library.ashs.school.nz/[…]biblionumber=1854 |
| 08:52 | chris | heh |
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| 08:53 | chris | its all ready to commit for 3.4 |
| 08:53 | kf | always the same... 3.2 is not really here and I already long for 3.4 |
| 08:54 | chris | :) |
| 08:54 | it has a new table for the db, a module, some template changes and a cron job | |
| 08:55 | so bit big to go in 3.2 at this point | |
| 08:56 | kf | I understand :) |
| 08:59 | Ropuch | Hi kf |
| 09:03 | Amit | heya Ropuch, kf |
| 09:05 | magnus | wow, those recommendations look cool |
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| 09:06 | magnus | anyone have any thoughts on the legality of using amazon stuff in the opac, re the message on the list? |
| 09:07 | chris | last time anyone asked amazon they said it was fine |
| 09:08 | paul_p | hello chris, magnus, kf & Ropuch |
| 09:08 | happy monday to all ! | |
| 09:08 | magnus | thanks, same to you paul_p! |
| 09:09 | chris: when was that? | |
| 09:10 | chris | 2006 |
| 09:10 | and 2008 | |
| 09:10 | but if a library is unsure they should ask | |
| 09:11 | its not koha's place | |
| 09:11 | * magnus | agreed |
| 09:11 | chris | its the library who signs up to AWS |
| 09:11 | magnus | yup |
| 09:11 | unless their vendor does it for them... | |
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| 09:11 | |Lupin| | hello there |
| 09:12 | kf | happy monday paul (although I dont know whats happy about mondays) |
| 09:12 | chris | well they shouldnt be using their vendors aws key, that certainly would be a violation of the TOS |
| 09:12 | hi paul_p :) and hi |Lupin| | |
| 09:12 | paul_p | hello |Lupin| Long time no see ! |
| 09:12 | kf | hi |Lupin| |
| 09:12 | |Lupin| | paul_p: hi ! indeed :-) |
| 09:13 | guten morgen kf ! :) | |
| 09:13 | (hi chirs) | |
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| 10:34 | Topic for #koha is now Discussion channel for the Koha ILS | IRC meeting for organizing Koha 2010 @ 21:00 UTC+0, Monday, 15 February 2010 | |
| 10:34 | Topic for #koha is now Discussion channel for the Koha ILS | IRC meeting for organizing KohaCon 2010 @ 21:00 UTC+0, Monday, 15 February 2010 | |
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| 10:55 | kf | "The recommendations feature only works for libraries who don’t anonymise their patron data" |
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| 10:55 | kf | why does it not work with anonymized data? will be a real problem here :( |
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| 10:56 | magnus | yeah, that's not gonna go down well with the norwegian "Data Inspectorate" |
| 10:56 | kf | same here |
| 10:57 | magnus | i think i heard that it will be possible for patrons to choose whether to keep their reading history or not - is it possible to base this feature on the patrons who choose to keep their history? |
| 10:57 | kf | dont know why it needs patron data |
| 10:58 | hm | |
| 10:58 | magnus | it's based on "people who borrowed this also borrowed...", i think? |
| 10:58 | kf | the new feature is great but still not enough (thats what I have been told) |
| 10:58 | because you would need something to file that patrons wanted to keep their data, an email or something | |
| 10:58 | if I understood correctly | |
| 10:59 | there is a similar feature called bibtip you can integrate in your catalog here in germany | |
| 11:00 | I think they work without patron specific data | |
| 11:00 | magnus | ok, got a link for that? commercial service? |
| 11:01 | the norwegian "library laboratory" is thinking about creating a service for sharing things like this freely, so any examples are very interesting | |
| 11:01 | kf | http://www.bibtip.org/ |
| 11:01 | you have to pay for it, but it was developed at a university | |
| 11:02 | magnus | thanks for the link! |
| 11:02 | kf | no problem |
| 11:04 | gmcharlt | bbiab - starting a four-hour drive |
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| 11:05 | kf | magnus: this might be interesting too: http://www.daveyp.com/blog/archives/49 and http://www.daveyp.com/blog/archives/69 |
| 11:07 | magnus: bibtip works with search - not with issues. its more: people who looked at also looked at... | |
| 11:08 | magnus | kf: ah, important difference |
| 11:10 | kf | magnus: yes, but in dave patterns blog are some ideas for anonymizing data from issues and he has a web service |
| 11:10 | magnus | kf: yeah, looks really interesting! |
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| 13:18 | hilongo | gooooooddd moooorningggg ... Koha :) |
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| 13:52 | hilongo | @wunder Mendoza, Argentina |
| 13:52 | munin | hilongo: The current temperature in Mendoza, Argentina is 24.0�C (10:00 AM ART on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:53 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
| 13:53 | munin | chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 3.0�C (8:41 AM EST on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling). |
| 13:56 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 13:56 | munin | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is -1.4�C (2:51 PM CET on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:57 | collum_ | @wunder 41017 |
| 13:57 | munin | collum_: The current temperature in Taylor Mill, Taylor Mill, Kentucky is -1.3�C (8:52 AM EST on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Snow. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: -5.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005.0 hPa (Rising). Winter Storm Warning in effect until 6 am EST Tuesday... |
| 13:57 | kf | coldest :( |
| 13:58 | magnus_away | @wunder bodo, norway |
| 13:58 | munin | magnus_away: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0�C (2:20 PM CET on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:58 | magnus_away | but hey, i just saw the sun shining on my windowsill for the first time this year! :-) |
| 14:07 | hilongo | a shining sun is always welcome :) |
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| 15:22 | ebegin | Hi #koha! |
| 15:28 | kf | hi ebegin |
| 15:28 | ebegin | hi kf. A quiet day, isn't :) |
| 15:31 | chris_n | its a holiday for some in the us |
| 15:32 | ebegin | Ah, that's why... :) |
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| 15:50 | ebegin | chris_n, which holiday it is? |
| 15:50 | chris_n | president's day... aka George Washington's birthday |
| 15:50 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
| 15:50 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 7.1�C (7:45 AM PST on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Rising). |
| 15:51 | ebegin | ok, thanks. |
| 15:51 | and you are working? :) | |
| 15:51 | * chris_n | wonders if overdue_notices.pl is really as buggy as he thinks |
| 15:52 | chris_n | ebegin: somebody has to keep things going :) |
| 15:52 | ebegin | hehe... right! |
| 15:56 | Colin | chris_n I suspect overdue_notices.pl is as buggy as you think |
| 15:56 | * wizzyrea | wants a holiday, but traded it for the day after Thanksgiving |
| 15:59 | chris_n | Colin: I'm doing a bit of work in it, but it seems it should be reworked entirely |
| 15:59 | heya wizzyrea | |
| 16:00 | wizzyrea | heya chris_n |
| 16:00 | good weekend? | |
| 16:03 | chris_n | yup... had snow saturday for all of 6 hour or so |
| 16:03 | made lots of snowcream :-) | |
| 16:04 | toted the sled behind the 4 wheeler with the children | |
| 16:04 | put the snow away and went back to work on Monday ;) | |
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| 16:27 | brendan | morning #koha |
| 16:27 | chris_n | hi brendan && nengard |
| 16:27 | nengard | hiya |
| 16:28 | brendan | heya |
| 16:28 | chris_n | is anyone actually using overdue_notices.pl with any measure of success? |
| 16:29 | * chris_n | wonders why LibLime would complain about the quality of community code after submitting such a mess as that script is :-\ |
| 16:42 | * wizzyrea | nods |
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| 16:48 | wizzyrea | man, I keep trying to buy a sled, but the stores are all out |
| 16:48 | I want to tromp around with the spud on a sled, but no sleds to be found in my town | |
| 16:50 | * ebegin | is trying to figure out the best way to setup its git repo to allow an access to a daily version and latest stable version... |
| 16:53 | ebegin | If I want them to be available all day long, do I need 2 differents repo on my server? |
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| 16:54 | chris_n | ebegin: not necessarily... you can do two different branches |
| 16:54 | * chris_n | assumes a public repo |
| 16:54 | chris_n | ebegin: see http://git.foundations.edu/?p=koha.git;a=heads |
| 16:54 | ebegin | chris_n, how can I have both running at the same time? |
| 16:54 | chris_n | ahh |
| 16:54 | you want to run over git | |
| 16:55 | is this for development | |
| 16:55 | if so, I'd just setup two branches and change back and forth | |
| 16:56 | wizzyrea | bleh, where are the zebra logs kept? |
| 16:56 | chris_n | if you actually want them to be up all the time, you'd need two repos |
| 16:56 | * wizzyrea | thinks there really needs to be better zebra setup documentation |
| 16:56 | * chris_n | agrees |
| 16:56 | chris_n | om |
| 16:56 | * wizzyrea | would write it, if she could ever get it to work |
| 16:57 | chris_n | their in var/log |
| 16:57 | ebegin | chris_n, ok, that confirms what I thought. I won't need the stable version to be managed on git though... however, my clients one has to be on git, so is the daily one too... |
| 16:57 | chris_n | the location of which dependes you your setup |
| 16:57 | depends eve | |
| 16:57 | even, even :-P | |
| 16:58 | wizzyrea | interesting, the script completes with no errors, but there is no zebra log in /var/log or koha-dev/var/log |
| 16:58 | * wizzyrea | mutters something about maybe zebra isn't running... |
| 16:58 | * chris_n | is not surprised |
| 16:58 | chris_n | which script? |
| 16:58 | * wizzyrea | mutters some more |
| 16:58 | wizzyrea | rebuild_zebra.pl |
| 16:59 | chris_n | are you running it as your koha user? |
| 16:59 | a point missed in the documentation iirc | |
| 16:59 | wizzyrea | a good question, see, that really isn't in the docs |
| 16:59 | chris_n | try |
| 16:59 | ebegin | run it with -v options. You may get more info |
| 16:59 | chris_n | su koha |
| 16:59 | ebegin | -v : verbose mode |
| 16:59 | chris_n | and enter your koha user's password |
| 16:59 | wizzyrea | ebgin: good call |
| 16:59 | chris_n | then run it |
| 16:59 | wizzyrea | they sort of talk about it during the install script |
| 16:59 | kind of | |
| 16:59 | chris_n | otherwise it will probably not work |
| 17:00 | wizzyrea | chris_n I'm sure that will fix it |
| 17:00 | seems logical | |
| 17:00 | * chris_n | thinks a bit of documentation would go a long way towards demystifying zebra |
| 17:01 | Colin | It writes to koha-dev/var/lib/zebradb |
| 17:02 | wizzyrea | ah, and colin, that needs to be owned by <kohauser> |
| 17:02 | right? | |
| 17:02 | ebegin | yep that is correct |
| 17:02 | wizzyrea | kool beans |
| 17:02 | ebegin | all files in /var/lib/koha/zebradb/ |
| 17:02 | kf | chris_n: i have a lot of problems with notices :( but the problem is fines.pl in combination with overdues.pl |
| 17:02 | wizzyrea | very very close now, I can smell it |
| 17:02 | ty | |
| 17:02 | Colin | the rebuild-zebra script doesnt give much (useful) output even in verbose |
| 17:03 | ebegin | you get the Permission denied info, as far as I can tell |
| 17:03 | chris_n | ownership should be taken care of by the installer |
| 17:03 | another fix which would help | |
| 17:04 | ebegin | chris_n, it does if you install it using the koha user |
| 17:04 | chris_n | wizzyrea: you'll still have to run the script as kohauser from the shell |
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| 17:04 | wizzyrea | right |
| 17:04 | but ahem, the docs don't direct you to do that | |
| 17:04 | chris_n | ebegin: that doesn work too well for dev installs |
| 17:05 | wizzyrea | install as the koha user, at least, I missed it |
| 17:05 | and that | |
| 17:06 | chris_n | the installer should probably check to see what user it is being run as and warn or make decisions based on that |
| 17:06 | ebegin | chris_n, there are effectively some flaws in the installation process |
| 17:06 | wizzyrea | should probably do several things: prompt you/help you create the koha user |
| 17:07 | chris_n | however, the installer is much better than it used to be |
| 17:07 | wizzyrea | i mean, speaking from a pure newb perspective |
| 17:07 | chris_n | gmcharlt has really fixed it up |
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| 17:07 | chris_n | gmcharlt: snap |
| 17:07 | wizzyrea | (thinking of the poor librarians who just do tech because their director has told them to) |
| 17:07 | gmcharlt | 'ello, 'ello |
| 17:07 | chris_n | the very mention of his nick brings him up :-) |
| 17:07 | wizzyrea | it's like he's psychic |
| 17:08 | ebegin | This is really cool... |
| 17:08 | chris_n | we were just dissing the installer and zebra a bit |
| 17:08 | kf | hi gmcharlt |
| 17:08 | wizzyrea | though the installer is way better than it used to be |
| 17:08 | and the docs are way better than they used to be | |
| 17:08 | chris_n | but had to give you credit for the great improvement over what it used to be :) |
| 17:08 | ebegin | gmcharlt, the line before gmcharlt joined #koha was "gmcharlt has really fixed it up" |
| 17:08 | wizzyrea | always room for improvement |
| 17:08 | gmcharlt | thanks |
| 17:09 | and wizzyrea is right, always room for improvement | |
| 17:09 | * gmcharlt | hopes that the Debianization happens for 3.4 as planned |
| 17:09 | * chris_n | too |
| 17:10 | wizzyrea | so, if someone wants to write up how they do it (the right way, or the usual way, or the best way, whatever) I'll be happy to nubify it |
| 17:10 | kf | gmcharlt: I finally finished translation of the default bibliographic marc framework and authority frameworks. |
| 17:10 | wizzyrea | make it pretty and all that |
| 17:10 | because I'm following the steps and I haven't gotten it to work without help | |
| 17:10 | kf | gmcharlt: can I just create a directory for DE-de with those 2 files or will it need all files translated for the installation process? |
| 17:10 | * chris_n | goes back to overdue_notices.pl |
| 17:10 | ebegin | kf, for which language? |
| 17:11 | kf | german :) |
| 17:11 | gmcharlt | kf: you'll need to translate or bring over the sysprefs SQL scripts as well |
| 17:11 | and the userpermissions stuff - pretty much everything in the en mandatory directory | |
| 17:11 | kf | gmcharlt: ok, I saw there is a way to gernate .po-files now |
| 17:12 | gmcharlt: uh, so still a lot of work. is this something that could be added for 3.2 or will it be 3.4? | |
| 17:12 | gmcharlt | right, but for now, the sysprefs SQL also needs to be brought over in order to initialize the sysprefs in the DB |
| 17:12 | kf: I'll accept translations whenever they appear | |
| 17:14 | kf | gmcharlt: thx, so I will get to work later. Is there something more that I need to know? I was not sure about new files/directories in git |
| 17:14 | gmcharlt | adding new files is easy - just put them in place in your git tree, then git add the new files, then commit |
| 17:15 | any new directories will get taken careful when you git-add the new files in them | |
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| 17:16 | kf | gmcharlt: thx - I will try and you can make me resend the patch until its right :) |
| 17:19 | wizzyrea | it works :) |
| 17:19 | * wizzyrea | does a bit of a happy dance |
| 17:20 | * chris_n | reminds wizzyrea to keep her zebra fed and watered |
| 17:20 | wizzyrea | going to set up the cron jobs now ;) |
| 17:22 | * gmcharlt | mixes metaphors and points wizzyrea to collum_ if the zebra needs stripes |
| 17:22 | wizzyrea | you guys are funny |
| 17:23 | i like it | |
| 17:23 | kf | :) |
| 17:23 | bye koha :) | |
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| 17:24 | chris_n | did anybody checkout the cool embedded viewer api by google mentioned on the list? |
| 17:35 | Colin | chris_n: just took a look the api looks nice. easy to use |
| 17:36 | wizzyrea | collum_: I love you, thanks for doing that to the saved reports page |
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| 17:43 | ebegin | chris_n, i'm trying to find which viewer you are referring about... :( |
| 17:45 | wizzyrea | oh squee, whoever reorganized tools-home.pl: very nice job |
| 17:46 | all sorts of goodies in here! | |
| 17:47 | gmcharlt: rotating collections is coming out? | |
| 17:47 | er, being removed? | |
| 17:47 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: yep, I'll be moving it to future |
| 17:47 | wizzyrea | k cool |
| 17:47 | Colin | ebegin:http://code.google.com/apis/books/ |
| 17:48 | wizzyrea | it's a good idea but doesn't work :( |
| 17:48 | collum_ | wizzyrea: just came up stairs from lunch. You're welcome. |
| 17:49 | gmcharlt | nengard: shall we get all fancy and register an ISSN for the Koha newsletter? |
| 17:49 | wizzyrea | the only thing left is to make the "Report Saved" page have a link to "Run this report now" |
| 17:49 | nengard | gmcharlt - considered it .... on a conference call now - will do it later |
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| 18:06 | wizzyrea | @later tell owen dk if this interests you: Bela Fleck will be in Athens on Feb. 18. Saw the show here, it was awesome |
| 18:06 | munin | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
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| 19:00 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
| 19:01 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 17.4�C (10:57 AM PST on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:01 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 19:01 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is -7.3�C (7:51 PM CET on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -7.0�C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008.4 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:01 | cait | hi brendan |
| 19:01 | brendan | hi cait |
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| 19:16 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 19:16 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is -7.7�C (8:11 PM CET on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008.4 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:17 | imp | @wunder hannover germany |
| 19:17 | cait | ok, it is really getting colder :( |
| 19:17 | munin | imp: The current temperature in Hannover, Wedemark, Germany is -5.8�C (7:59 PM CET on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Falling). |
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| 19:29 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
| 19:29 | munin | chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 11.0�C (2:01 PM EST on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Pressure: 29.72 in 1006 hPa (Falling). |
| 19:29 | * chris_n | tries to catch brendan |
| 19:29 | brendan | keep coming :) |
| 19:35 | ebegin | @wunder montreal, canada |
| 19:35 | munin | ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is -1.0�C (2:00 PM EST on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 29.63 in 1003 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:39 | chris_n | ebegin: I'll be in Toronto next week |
| 19:42 | ebegin | @wunder toronto, canada |
| 19:42 | munin | ebegin: The current temperature in Toronto, Ontario is -1.0�C (2:00 PM EST on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.69 in 1005 hPa (Falling). |
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| 19:43 | slef | evening all - can someone just confirm that bug 4189 isn't local to us? |
| 19:43 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4189 minor, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, Searching z39.50 without selecting any servers results in error message |
| 19:46 | wizzyrea | slef: http://screencast.com/t/MGY5OTE5M |
| 19:46 | is that what you saw? | |
| 19:46 | http://content.screencast.com/[…]24d3/00000137.png | |
| 19:47 | if you don't like the screencast wrapper | |
| 19:48 | slef: i was able to reproduce | |
| 19:49 | slef | @tell pianohackr it seems to be equivalent and means you can avoid installing dselect on newer systems, so please patch away. |
| 19:49 | munin | slef: Error: I haven't seen pianohackr, I'll let you do the telling. |
| 19:49 | slef | @tell pianohacker it seems to be equivalent and means you can avoid installing dselect on newer systems, so please patch away. |
| 19:49 | munin | slef: Error: I haven't seen pianohacker, I'll let you do the telling. |
| 19:49 | slef | damn, what's his nick |
| 19:49 | wizzyrea: yes, that's it, thanks. | |
| 19:50 | wizzyrea | @seen pianohacker|work |
| 19:50 | munin | wizzyrea: Error: 'pianohacker|work' is not a valid nick. That nick is too long for this server. |
| 19:50 | wizzyrea | @seen pianohackr|work |
| 19:50 | munin | wizzyrea: pianohackr|work was last seen in #koha 1 day, 23 hours, 39 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <pianohackr|work> You're welcome |
| 19:50 | wizzyrea | @seen pianohacker |
| 19:50 | munin | wizzyrea: pianohacker was last seen in #koha 1 week, 3 days, 0 hours, 34 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <pianohacker> brb work |
| 19:50 | wizzyrea | probably pianohackr|work |
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| 19:51 | slef | @tell pianohackr|work it seems to be equivalent and means you can avoid installing dselect on newer systems, so please patch away. |
| 19:51 | munin | slef: Error: I haven't seen pianohackr|work, I'll let you do the telling. |
| 19:51 | wizzyrea | oh, it's @later tell |
| 19:51 | slef | ah! |
| 19:52 | @later tell pianohackr|work it seems to be equivalent and means you can avoid installing dselect on newer systems, so please patch away. | |
| 19:52 | munin | slef: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:52 | wizzyrea | there we go :) |
| 19:52 | slef | thought I was going blind |
| 19:52 | thanks a second time in 10 minutes :) | |
| 19:52 | wizzyrea | yvw |
| 19:55 | chris_n | well, overdue_notices.pl is a bit better behaved now |
| 19:56 | * chris_n | will now attempt to allow inserting fine totals in notices |
| 20:01 | cait1 | chris_n: I dont have words for how happy this would make me! :) |
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| 20:03 | chris | morning |
| 20:03 | cait1 | morning chris |
| 20:03 | chris_n | g'morning chris |
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| 20:07 | brendan | morning chris |
| 20:08 | chris | hiya brendan |
| 20:09 | hi cait and chris_n | |
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| 20:10 | wizzyrea | mornin chris |
| 20:11 | chris | hi wizzyrea, not on holiday? |
| 20:11 | wizzyrea | nope, bummer eh? |
| 20:14 | chris | yep |
| 20:14 | gmcharlt | hi chris |
| 20:14 | chris | but now you can come to the kohacon meeting :) |
| 20:14 | heya gmcharlt | |
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| 20:20 | wizzyrea | truth! |
| 20:25 | ok, strange operational question | |
| 20:25 | chris | todays song of the day http://listen.grooveshark.com/[…]g+Way+Home/2wcdE9 |
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| 20:27 | wizzyrea | and one from me too: http://popup.lala.com/popup/504684643780017304 |
| 20:28 | chris | oh that is nice |
| 20:29 | wizzyrea | brb |
| 20:30 | back, flash 10. bleh. | |
| 20:30 | chris | heh |
| 20:30 | cait1 | @wunder Konstanz |
| 20:30 | munin | cait1: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is -8.3�C (9:21 PM CET on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008.4 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:31 | cait1 | brrrr :( |
| 20:31 | wizzyrea | http://listen.grooveshark.com/[…]Jazz+Dance/2yg1OU |
| 20:31 | also good one | |
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| 20:37 | wizzyrea | saw this guy with Bela Fleck on Saturday, I'm not usually so keen on bluegrass fiddle, but he's... different. |
| 20:38 | was a fabulous show | |
| 20:40 | brendan | yeah I've seen bela fleck he puts on a fun show |
| 20:40 | saw him in Santa Fe, NM | |
| 20:40 | wizzyrea | oh man, he was with the Africa Project, and those guys can PLAY. Holy cow. |
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| 20:42 | wizzyrea | (the Bela Fleck tix were my hubs xmas present from me :)) |
| 20:42 | i just got lucky enough to be the one he chose to take with him ^.^ | |
| 20:51 | vague procedural question: there must be a reason that the example crontabs have the hold queue running every hour | |
| 20:51 | is that because running it less often causes anomalies? | |
| 20:52 | and is it better to run it more often, and have the librarians print it right before they do their picks? | |
| 20:52 | chris | i suspect an hour was just a random thing |
| 20:53 | i doubt much thought went into it | |
| 20:53 | running it less would mean it would get out of date | |
| 20:53 | wizzyrea | seems like there is an awful lot of coincidence of timing when you run infrequently |
| 20:53 | chris | faster |
| 20:53 | braedon|work | does anyone know what permission an account needs to renew books from the staff interface? |
| 20:54 | wizzyrea | I went through the holds process while looking at bug 3595 |
| 20:54 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3595 normal, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, Items seen at checkin should always go to 1st priority hold |
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| 20:54 | wizzyrea | it's still "broken" but I wonder if it could be mitigated by running the hold queue more often |
| 20:55 | oh and i found something else | |
| 20:55 | sort of related | |
| 20:57 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: the holds queue is really meant to be run as frequently as you send out staff to pick items from the stacks |
| 20:57 | chris | braedon|work: i think circulation |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea | 4 libraries, a b c and d, 1 book, 4 copies, 4 patrons, 1,2,3, and 4: patron 1 places a hold on title A. Hold queue runs, item 1 is assigned. Item is checked in, hold is IGNORED. Item 2 then is checked in, the system prompts to send the item to patron 2, who is 2nd on the list. |
| 20:58 | ignoring patron 1, who is still first on the list | |
| 20:58 | until you run the holds queue again | |
| 20:58 | that is good to know, gmcharlt | |
| 20:59 | russ | kohacon volunteers meeting starts in 10 mins |
| 20:59 | oops | |
| 20:59 | wizzyrea | item 3 is checked in, it goes back to patron 1 |
| 20:59 | russ | 5 mins :-) |
| 20:59 | more caffiene required | |
| 20:59 | nod_ | 4 min? |
| 20:59 | wizzyrea | it just seems like, no matter what, the 1st person on the list should always get the first available item. |
| 20:59 | and that doesn't happen | |
| 21:00 | braedon|work | chris: doesn't seem to work with circulation(3.00.05). |
| 21:01 | wizzyrea | gmcharlt: so, say you have 30 libraries, all sending people out at varying times of the day |
| 21:01 | you should run the hold queue more like hourly instead of 2x day | |
| 21:01 | and they should print it before they walk into the stacks | |
| 21:02 | chris | braedon|work: must be a diff one then |
| 21:02 | bulkmarcimport.pl is deprecated?? since when? | |
| 21:02 | braedon|work | chris: the patron we are trying to enable renewing for has circulate and catalogue privileges. Can't see anything else that looks related |
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| 21:03 | russ | ok lets get started |
| 21:03 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: yep |
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| 21:03 | Jo | morning all |
| 21:03 | chilts | hello everyone :) |
| 21:03 | BobB | Good morning all |
| 21:04 | russ | KohaCon10 meeting - agenda http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]on2010:volunteers |
| 21:04 | apologies from Rosalie Blake | |
| 21:04 | who is here | |
| 21:04 | wizzyrea | /msg gmcharlt one more question so as not to interrupt their meeting: is there any weighting of the holds system to attempt to match patrons with books from their own branch? besides the local holds stuff, of course. |
| 21:04 | Jo | Joann Ransom, HLT |
| 21:04 | wizzyrea | doh |
| 21:04 | * chilts | puts his hand up |
| 21:04 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 21:04 | Jo | Deborahh Macdonald HLT |
| 21:04 | * russ | -> Russel Garlick, Catalyst IT |
| 21:04 | IrmaCalyx | Irma from CALYX |
| 21:04 | chilts | Andy Chilton, Catalyst IT |
| 21:04 | BobB | Bob Birchall, Calyx in Sydney |
| 21:04 | brendan | brendan gallagher bywater solutions |
| 21:05 | Jo is now known as DebJo | |
| 21:05 | * wizzyrea | -> nekls, just sitting in |
| 21:05 | chris | chris cormack, catatlyst IT |
| 21:05 | richard | richard anderson, katipo |
| 21:05 | * chris_n | chris Nighswonger FBC sitting in |
| 21:06 | * gmcharlt | Galen Charlton, sitting in |
| 21:06 | chilts | I think Don is coming soon :) |
| 21:06 | russ | :-) |
| 21:06 | * nengard | Nicole Engard |
| 21:06 | Ropuch | Piotr Wejman, Biblioteka CSNE |
| 21:07 | russ | ok so sounds like a couple of people who would like to volunteer have been unable to make it, nvm we'll roll on |
| 21:08 | nod_ | donovan jones, Catalyst IT |
| 21:08 | russ | ok so point of today's meeting is just a kick off, not too much detail. |
| 21:08 | Chris and I have worked up a base plan of attack http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]010conferenceplan | |
| 21:09 | thanks to those sponsors who have contributed already | |
| 21:09 | chris | yep, thanks to bywater and libriotech we are able to pay the deposit on the venue |
| 21:10 | chilts | looks like a good outline as a start :) |
| 21:10 | chris | and thanks to HLT for getting that done |
| 21:10 | DebJo | nw |
| 21:10 | russ | so as i see it there will be 2 streams of work for the moment |
| 21:10 | DebJo | I think a blogpost on the koha-community site about donations now being accepted wouldbe timely |
| 21:10 | chris | would you be able to do that DebJo ? |
| 21:10 | DebJo | sure |
| 21:11 | chris | the nice thing about that site, is we can edit it !!! |
| 21:11 | :) | |
| 21:11 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
| 21:11 | brendan | koha-community++ |
| 21:11 | DebJo | moving along now kids ... |
| 21:11 | russ | there are two streams of work 1)logistics 2)programme/theme |
| 21:11 | so i'll be looking after most of the logistics/operational side of things | |
| 21:11 | DebJo | go Russ |
| 21:12 | russ | as for the programme side we need some people who can review paper submissions |
| 21:12 | maybe come up with a theme etc... | |
| 21:12 | chris | nicole is free from the end of feb |
| 21:12 | russ | :-) |
| 21:12 | chilts | russ: theme? |
| 21:13 | DebJo | i seconf nicole :) |
| 21:13 | nengard | russ - i'll manage the program if you guys are okay with that |
| 21:13 | but I don't want to make people submit 'papers' | |
| 21:13 | chris | we want to have probably 4 or 5 ppl |
| 21:13 | nengard | short proposals are a-ok |
| 21:13 | chris | with nengard coordinating |
| 21:13 | nengard | chris- oh heck yeah- i want help |
| 21:13 | BobB | I'm happy to help there. Busy till mid March but can still do stuff |
| 21:13 | chris | cool |
| 21:13 | russ | sweet |
| 21:13 | richard | i can help with that one |
| 21:13 | DebJo | I'm happy to be one of the readers of the papers, but as a last choice preferably |
| 21:13 | chris | i second short abstracts too |
| 21:14 | * russ | is going to hit up rosa as well to help with that |
| 21:14 | DebJo | seriously - last choice - make me 10th choice :) |
| 21:14 | brendan | I can help nicole with reviews of proposals |
| 21:14 | russ | but i am not sure how busy she is these days |
| 21:14 | DebJo | just checking with Rosalie now |
| 21:14 | Rosalie said yes | |
| 21:15 | (she in a meeting at the library now) | |
| 21:15 | russ | :-) |
| 21:15 | chris | i wonder if someone at nekls would like to help out with that too? |
| 21:15 | :) | |
| 21:15 | wizzyrea | ^.^ sure |
| 21:15 | nengard | wow - how many people do we have now? |
| 21:15 | DebJo | drop me off |
| 21:15 | wizzyrea | like jo though, down the list >.> |
| 21:16 | but you can put me above her ;) | |
| 21:16 | chris | IMHO id like the conference to be not techy |
| 21:16 | we have the hackfest to get techy | |
| 21:16 | russ | nengard coordinator, rosalie, brendan, BobB is what i have |
| 21:16 | chris | ideally librarians presenting 90% of it would be awesome |
| 21:16 | thats just my thoughts tho | |
| 21:16 | nengard | okay - here was my vision - I put up a form for people to submit proposals - short proposals - not long papers - then we review them and fit them into a schedule - i can tell you with KohaCon this year we didn't have enough people submitting ideas - so i don't know that there will be much to read |
| 21:17 | russ | nengard: sure :-) |
| 21:17 | we have a couple of people lined up to give some talks | |
| 21:17 | DebJo | would be nice for someone to write a blog of a dreamlist of presentations - themes, ideas, what they'd like to see. |
| 21:17 | chris | right, but i think we can make a bigger effort to get ppl to submit talks too |
| 21:17 | BobB | Proposals should be 150 words, no more |
| 21:17 | nengard | chris we need to push the "non techy" thing and see if we can get more speakers |
| 21:17 | russ | i think it would be good if we can nominate say one day as being of more interest to people new to koha |
| 21:17 | nengard | cause I did like 6 sessions last year and was exhausted :) |
| 21:17 | chilts | nengard: we can now put up a form on the KohaCon website (with whatever fields you want) and it'll get emailed to Chris |
| 21:17 | chris | yeah, i think ppl are scared that they need to be techy |
| 21:17 | wizzyrea | I want to see something about reports, something about customizing the interface (in all of it's myriad forms), something about SOPAC... |
| 21:18 | nengard | yes - sopac!! |
| 21:18 | :) | |
| 21:18 | chilts | if you want something more funky that just a plain old form, we'll have to sort it out a different way (the website just does generic forms) |
| 21:18 | wizzyrea | tying koha to your website in general |
| 21:18 | chris | chilts: it could save it the same way it does the rego's eh? |
| 21:18 | nengard | chilts i was thinking more like a google form that puts it into a spreadsheet we can all share and then organize into a schedule |
| 21:18 | chilts | yep |
| 21:18 | nengard | still public - but not dealing with emails!! :) |
| 21:18 | chilts | nengard: ah, good idea :) |
| 21:18 | russ | chilts: i have some ideas there so maybe i will work in with nengard and get it sorted |
| 21:18 | but yeah submitt to google docs all good | |
| 21:19 | chilts | sounds like a Google Form might be better already |
| 21:19 | russ | ok so it think that is enough on the programme already - thanks nengard for heading that up |
| 21:19 | nengard | no prob |
| 21:19 | i'll put a form together at the end of the month | |
| 21:19 | and we can put out a call | |
| 21:19 | russ | sweet |
| 21:20 | ok so sponsorship | |
| 21:20 | wizzyrea | an open session about what we could do if we had all the money in the world to develop would be cool |
| 21:20 | always good ideas come out of that | |
| 21:20 | nengard | LOL |
| 21:20 | that would be useful pre-hackfest | |
| 21:20 | to give hackers ideas | |
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| 21:20 | Ropuch | ;> |
| 21:20 | russ | i plan to start recording that in a more private google doc |
| 21:20 | chris | speaking of the hackfest, there probably isnt going to be much hacking done |
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| 21:21 | chris | think of it more as a developers unconference |
| 21:21 | talking in person is so much more productive than us all staring at our screens ;) | |
| 21:21 | we can get all excited and share ideas, then go home and code them | |
| 21:22 | russ | sounds good to me :-) |
| 21:23 | we have venue sorted for that, has 3 rooms so all can be together | |
| 21:23 | brendan | also do a little bit of education for the amateur hackers |
| 21:23 | russ | or break out into smaller groups |
| 21:23 | chris | brendan: yup |
| 21:24 | DebJo | sounds good |
| 21:24 | wizzyrea | a "get into Git" session would be cool :P |
| 21:24 | chris | yeah we have some git gurus in the building |
| 21:24 | so i will be tapping them to come give a talk | |
| 21:25 | DebJo | maybe one of kete - koha integration |
| 21:25 | chilts | yeah, nod_ and I will try and tap into some Catalyst expertise :) |
| 21:25 | or Chris :D | |
| 21:25 | nod_ | wizzyrea: noted |
| 21:25 | brendan | any ideas for a keynote speaker ? |
| 21:25 | nod_ | Im gooing to be co-ordinating the hackfest with chilts |
| 21:25 | russ | brendan: we have one |
| 21:25 | but are yet to sort that out | |
| 21:25 | brendan | cool |
| 21:25 | russ | watch this space :-) |
| 21:26 | DebJo | would you like sharon to do a anything from HLT? |
| 21:26 | russ | ok if we can get back to budget stuff for the moment, and sponsorship |
| 21:26 | * brendan | finds that I watch it too much ## at least my wife tells me that |
| 21:26 | chris | actually yes, sharon would be a great speaker |
| 21:26 | DebJo | and nice for HLT to welcome our comrades to NZ |
| 21:26 | chris | yep |
| 21:27 | russ | DebJo: I need to work in with you guys to manage how we are getting on with that |
| 21:27 | nod_ | any other suggestions for hackfest topics? |
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| 21:27 | russ | nod_ can we differ that to later please |
| 21:27 | nod_ | ok |
| 21:27 | russ | i'd like to just talk about the budget |
| 21:27 | our needs are modest and we have 2 targets | |
| 21:27 | chris | should we add to the wiki how much we have raised so far? |
| 21:28 | DebJo | would be nice and transparent |
| 21:28 | russ | chris: yep |
| 21:28 | brendan | that would be helpful chris |
| 21:28 | DebJo | could show incomings and outgoings as the happen |
| 21:28 | brendan | that way we know if we need to do more |
| 21:28 | chris | DebJo: if you could let me know after the meeting, ill update the wiki (or you can either/or) |
| 21:28 | DebJo | we'll teach deb how to edit the wiki - good learning curve |
| 21:28 | russ | the base level gets us a room, the target (10kNZD) gets us some niceties |
| 21:29 | DebJo | (she loves me really) |
| 21:29 | BobB | It would be great if budget allowed for a Maori welcome. Our indigenous people would call it 'welcome to country'. I don't know what you call it. |
| 21:29 | russ | if you are going to approach people for sponsorship |
| 21:29 | can you please let me know, so i can track it | |
| 21:29 | DebJo | 'Rent a Maori' you mean .. |
| 21:29 | russ | sorry people can we get off content for a moment |
| 21:29 | and on to operational stuff | |
| 21:29 | DebJo | the powhiri can be purchased at Rotorua |
| 21:29 | russ | i know it is boring |
| 21:30 | but i just want to get this stuff sorted so we have a base to build on | |
| 21:30 | BobB | Ok to be bored:) |
| 21:30 | DebJo | imp too |
| 21:30 | brendan | would be nice to have a list of cost and what you are targeting for them |
| 21:30 | or I may have missed that | |
| 21:31 | russ | http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]erenceplan#budget |
| 21:31 | DebJo | i view a donation as a voluntary registrtaion fee so maybe we market it that way to - so those who can afford to pay do |
| 21:32 | russ | DebJo: i agree - chilts we should talk about how we can intergrate that into the form |
| 21:32 | brendan | russ if possible list the cost of the venue, etc. |
| 21:32 | DebJo | realistically, we'd pay a regis fee for any other conference, why would we not pay for this one |
| 21:32 | chilts | russ: might be a nengard thing if it's on Google Spreadsheets (rather than the KohaCon website) |
| 21:32 | DebJo | but allows for those who can't afford to pay to partciapte anyway |
| 21:32 | chilts | I figure people could just register and then go and donate :) |
| 21:32 | nengard | i just need to know what fields you want |
| 21:32 | chilts | two separate things |
| 21:33 | chris | im with chilts |
| 21:33 | DebJo | yep - 2 seperate |
| 21:33 | russ | err |
| 21:33 | DebJo | 1 is registration (another field - and clcik here to donate) |
| 21:33 | chris | id much rather do it with sponsorship |
| 21:33 | than get librarians paying out of their pocket | |
| 21:33 | russ | sure - and i think that is doable |
| 21:33 | chris | specially if they are paying 2k to get her |
| 21:33 | e | |
| 21:33 | russ | certainly to get the min amount |
| 21:34 | we need to firm up the estimates on some of this stuff | |
| 21:34 | chris | so id like us to not push the donations to much, until we have exhausted sponsorship options |
| 21:34 | russ | DebJo: who do i talk to about tracking the monies at HLT? |
| 21:34 | chris | every other kohacon has been free for attendees |
| 21:34 | chilts | certainly the Donate button is already in good view, so it's definitely there for people wishing to see it :D |
| 21:34 | DebJo | Deborah |
| 21:34 | russ | DebJo: ta |
| 21:34 | chris | yeah, i think thats all that it needs |
| 21:34 | DebJo | deborahlibrary.org.nz |
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| 21:35 | russ | righto - sponsorship first, we will see how that goes |
| 21:35 | DebJo | what grant applications |
| 21:35 | russ | DebJo: i have started looking into that |
| 21:35 | DebJo | what about (i meant) |
| 21:35 | cool | |
| 21:36 | brendan | one thing that would be good for those looking to do sponsorship would be a list of things to sponsor -- i.e coffee break, or projector, something like that |
| 21:36 | BobB | chris: I agree to focus on sponsorship first. Donations should be anonymous to not embarrass people who can't afford to contribute |
| 21:36 | russ | brendan: yep good idea |
| 21:36 | we will firm up costings and get them in there | |
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| 21:38 | russ | but to summarise, we want to do this with sponsorship if we can, we will do a break down for the wiki page, add a list of how much and who has contributed so far, and sponsorship coordination to go through me |
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| 21:38 | chris | souds good |
| 21:38 | +n | |
| 21:38 | brendan | +1 |
| 21:38 | russ | is anyone from ashs here at the moment? |
| 21:38 | chris | nope |
| 21:39 | * russ | makes a note to contact them later |
| 21:39 | chris | during school hours, is unlikely they can get away |
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| 21:39 | russ | sure |
| 21:39 | IrmaCalyx | back again... |
| 21:39 | chilts | :) |
| 21:39 | russ | ok next point - Website Content |
| 21:39 | we need a couple of things there | |
| 21:40 | chilts | anyone who wants to be able to edit the site, let me know your Gmail address and I'll add you in |
| 21:40 | russ | if we could get some volunteers from outside NZ to write up some tips on the best way to get to NZ etc |
| 21:40 | that would be great | |
| 21:40 | suggestions for travel sites etc | |
| 21:40 | IrmaCalyx | we can do from Australia |
| 21:40 | chris | sweet |
| 21:40 | russ | my advice for our nth america friends - fly out of SFO :-) |
| 21:40 | brendan | I can suggest somethings from Los angelos |
| 21:41 | or SFO | |
| 21:41 | chris | cool brendan |
| 21:41 | russ | thanks brendan |
| 21:41 | chilts | it seems the /2010/travel/ section is more about getting around Wgtn, do we want something else for actually getting here? |
| 21:41 | nengard | russ - i looked as SFO cause I hate LAX - but LAX was way way cheaper |
| 21:41 | :( | |
| 21:41 | russ | nengard: right |
| 21:41 | brendan | chilts what's your email again |
| 21:42 | chilts | pm |
| 21:42 | brendan | if you want to send it to me -- brendanbywatersolutions.com |
| 21:42 | ah cool | |
| 21:42 | russ | nengard: did you check AirNZ ? |
| 21:42 | nengard | I forget - wasn't checking too closely yet - just wanted an idea so i could start budgeting |
| 21:42 | will check though | |
| 21:42 | russ | i know around that time they start putting on flights for the winter ski season |
| 21:42 | brendan | chilts I'd say a section for getting there would be important |
| 21:43 | russ | they quite often do some special through vancouver as well |
| 21:43 | chilts | so /2010/getting-to-wellington/ ? or /2010/getting-here/ |
| 21:43 | IrmaCalyx | irmalibrariesgmail.com |
| 21:43 | russ | Joann: did you contact any budget accom like backpackers? |
| 21:44 | there are a couple of good ones nearby | |
| 21:44 | opps or should that have been directed to DebJo :-) | |
| 21:45 | * russ | will touch base on that later |
| 21:45 | IrmaCalyx | What about enting a large appartment in town for a week? |
| 21:45 | Is that available in Wellington? | |
| 21:45 | russ | sure there are serviced apartments |
| 21:45 | DebJo left #koha | |
| 21:46 | russ | used a lot by government types |
| 21:46 | IrmaCalyx | not serviced but short term stays |
| 21:46 | brendan | maybe if we're overwhelmed by donations |
| 21:46 | russ | brendan: i like your optimism :-) |
| 21:47 | IrmaCalyx | I am happy to do a bit of investigation |
| 21:47 | russ | IrmaCalyx: thanks |
| 21:47 | ok looking at agenda - I think we have the roles pretty much sorted - thanks to all for volunteering | |
| 21:47 | nengard | no prob |
| 21:48 | Joann left #koha | |
| 21:48 | chilts | new section : http://kohacon.appspot.com/2010/getting-here/ |
| 21:48 | nengard | we need the NZ natives to volunteer as tour guides and sources for good info about where to eat etc :) |
| 21:48 | chilts | will need to add a menu item to it later I'm afraid :) |
| 21:48 | chris | i started doing that |
| 21:48 | russ | nengard: no problem there |
| 21:48 | nengard | :) |
| 21:48 | figured | |
| 21:48 | chris | http://kohacon.appspot.com/2010/travel/food.html |
| 21:49 | nengard | yeah - i don't want to read :) hehe - i want you to tell me :) |
| 21:49 | chris | i need to keep adding to the map though |
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| 21:49 | wizzyrea | suggestions on where to park your kid might be helpful, but that's purely selfish |
| 21:49 | DebJo | sorry - couldn't get back on |
| 21:49 | chris | te papa :) |
| 21:49 | DebJo | (will go check logs) |
| 21:49 | wizzyrea | ;) |
| 21:50 | BobB | chris: ++ |
| 21:50 | russ | wizzyrea: ah good point - we can add some ideas about what hangerons can do during conference |
| 21:50 | wizzyrea | yes, hangeron activities |
| 21:50 | BobB | russ: Like a partners programme |
| 21:51 | russ | ok the last thing I want to do is set a time for the next meeting |
| 21:51 | IrmaCalyx | also some "first aid" info (that won't be needed I hope) |
| 21:51 | russ | given how far out we are, I was thinking a months time? does that seem reasonable? |
| 21:52 | chris | sounds ok to me, we can discuss things before then if needed |
| 21:52 | * angela | belatedly turns up |
| 21:52 | angela is now known as rach | |
| 21:52 | chilts | yep, 1 month sounds good |
| 21:52 | russ | email traffic to general list, dev list or should we get a new one set up? |
| 21:52 | IrmaCalyx | monthly meeting for March, April, May, June, then every 2 weeks? |
| 21:52 | russ | IrmaCalyx: you read my mind - something like that sounds like the go |
| 21:53 | brendan | i vote for general list |
| 21:53 | chris | general list is fine i think |
| 21:53 | IrmaCalyx | ++ |
| 21:53 | * rach | will volunteer for kid parking |
| 21:53 | chris | one thing i dont need is another mailing list :) |
| 21:53 | russ | lol - i hear that :-) |
| 21:53 | nengard | +1 |
| 21:53 | chris | sounds good rach |
| 21:54 | russ | cool - email traffic will be to general list - include KohaCon10 in the subject line |
| 21:54 | chris | works for me |
| 21:54 | BobB | Will stimulate interest |
| 21:54 | chilts | KohaCon2010 I think is the tag we're directing at (for Twitter, Identica, Flickr etc) |
| 21:55 | chris | kohacon10 |
| 21:55 | chilts | oh |
| 21:55 | sorry | |
| 21:55 | chris | less typing :) |
| 21:55 | IrmaCalyx | If the KohaCon logo could be made avaialble asap that would be good |
| 21:55 | russ | IrmaCalyx: that is on the todo list for this month |
| 21:55 | ok so next meeting in a months time, i think we will try to go for a little earlier | |
| 21:56 | 8am | |
| 21:56 | chris | nz time? |
| 21:56 | russ | 8am NZST (if there are no objections) |
| 21:56 | chris | ok for me |
| 21:56 | BobB | Hallo? we don't need it to be earlier |
| 21:56 | chris | ah yeah, good point |
| 21:56 | russ | right |
| 21:56 | chris | that would be mental for aussie |
| 21:57 | chilts | I apologise for not making next month's ... am in Thailand :D |
| 21:57 | BobB | I like to be awake in meetings :) |
| 21:57 | russ | right |
| 21:57 | brendan | fine with me, but seems we are missing europe times |
| 21:57 | for example if biblibre has anything to add | |
| 21:58 | russ | brendan: yeah it is a problem, but the core of volunteers are here in nz |
| 21:58 | brendan | :) cool with me |
| 21:58 | BobB | I guess there is no best time for the whole world. Now is middle of the night in India, for example |
| 21:58 | russ | so that was what influenced my thinking around the meeting time |
| 21:58 | ok we will stick with 10am for the time being | |
| 21:58 | i will contact a couple of the people who have not been able to make it this time | |
| 21:59 | and see if they can make it next time round | |
| 21:59 | ok - little messy this time round - we are at the start of this so prolly to be expected | |
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| 21:59 | russ | i have covered what i wanted |
| 22:00 | BobB | We haven't discussed the road trip. Who's coordinating that? |
| 22:00 | chris | mark osborne, from ashs |
| 22:00 | russ | chris: we need to contact mark and see if there is a time he can make an irc meeting |
| 22:01 | chris | yup |
| 22:01 | darling | (got distracted w/work item here -- I can write up US to WLG travel tips have done that trip about 10 times in the past couple of yrs) |
| 22:01 | russ | darling: cool |
| 22:01 | BobB | OK. Irma and I could fly into Auck and hire a car - so make 2 or 3 seats available if needed |
| 22:01 | chilts | darling: PM me your Gmail and I'll add you to the KohaCon editors :) |
| 22:02 | chris | BobB: awesome, did you get a chance to talk to mark at LCA? |
| 22:02 | BobB | chris: Just briefly, but can contact him separately |
| 22:03 | chris | sweet |
| 22:03 | nengard | k - time to go start cooking dinner |
| 22:03 | russ | in terms of organisation - the road trip is a side event |
| 22:03 | nengard | talk to you all later - as always feel free to email or PM when I'm on :) |
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| 22:04 | chris | and i have a meeting now too |
| 22:04 | russ | ok i have to get going |
| 22:04 | chris | thanks for running the meeting russ |
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| 22:04 | BobB | thanks all |
| 22:04 | brendan | thanks russ |
| 22:04 | russ | so to confirm next meeting will be at 10am Wed March 17 NZ time |
| 22:04 | chris | cool |
| 22:04 | russ | i'll post some minutes to the wiki later today |
| 22:04 | * rach | will be san francisco |
| 22:05 | chilts | we have lots of editors for the site now ... so that's cool |
| 22:05 | BobB | St Patrick's Day! |
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| 22:05 | chilts | any suggestions for menu placements will have to come through me for the moment though (sorry, hope to fix that up soon) :D |
| 22:05 | BobB | Wear green to the meeting! |
| 22:06 | russ | ok thanks all - we will get a bit more structured as we move forward |
| 22:06 | * russ | heads off |
| 22:06 | * chilts | too |
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| 22:10 | cait1 | meeting over? |
| 22:10 | russ | yep |
| 22:11 | cait1 | ah ok |
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| 22:37 | * brendan | heads home |
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| 22:42 | collum_ | I was going to enable warnings in opac-logout.pl, but it doesn't seem to be used anymore. |
| 22:43 | Is that correct? or am I missing something? | |
| 22:44 | chris | collum_: doesnt appear to |
| 22:45 | collum_ | Thanks chris. It's done. |
| 22:45 | :) | |
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| 23:03 | chris | lunch time |
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