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02:43 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
02:43 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 14.3�C (6:37 PM PST on February 03, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.76 in 1007.7 hPa (Rising). |
02:56 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
02:56 | munin | chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 1.9�C (9:51 PM EST on February 03, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Falling). |
02:56 | braedon_ | -- and the great silence was broken by weatherwatchers -- |
02:56 | chris_n | we need a bot on #kohanews to subscribe to an rss feed on our new website |
02:57 | braedon_: yeah, it goes from feast to famine around here at times :-) | |
02:58 | brendan | you can usually catch me checking the weather about three times a day |
02:59 | you'd think I'd just look out the window ;) | |
02:59 | braedon_ | :) |
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03:23 | braedon|work | what is the best way to get the required versions of Graphics::Magick, Lingua::Stem::Snow and PDF::API2::Simple for 3.02 alpha on debian? cpan doesn't seem to have them, and the versions in the repos too old |
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03:30 | Amit | morning #koha |
03:34 | * braedon|work | wispers: shh, don't wake the sleeping lurkers |
03:40 | chris_n | howdy Amit |
03:40 | Amit | heya chris_n |
03:40 | * chris_n | learns a somthing new about gitweb |
03:40 | chris_n | http://git.foundations.edu/?p=[…]f5d5;hb=HEAD#l390 |
03:41 | takes you right to line 390 of C4::Lables::Label | |
03:47 | ok, sleep time | |
03:47 | g'night | |
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05:01 | CGI317 | hey guys |
05:01 | can any one tell me from where to get pearl modules | |
05:01 | best link | |
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05:10 | CGI317 | ?? |
05:13 | want to know perl module lniks for koha | |
05:13 | can any one help me | |
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06:14 | shamas | hey any one there |
06:30 | greenmang0 | @wunder mumbai |
06:30 | munin | greenmang0: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 28.0�C (11:40 AM IST on February 04, 2010). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Falling). |
07:00 | Ropuch | Morning #koha |
07:00 | brendan | mornig Ropuch |
07:01 | Ropuch | Hi brendan |
07:01 | brendan | morning actually |
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07:04 | Amit | heya Ropuch, brendan |
07:04 | Ropuch | Hi Amit |
07:06 | brendan | Hi Amit |
07:06 | goodday to you | |
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08:16 | kf | good morning |
08:17 | brendan | good night #koha |
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08:18 | kf | good night brendan |
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08:40 | CGI562 | hello house |
08:41 | has anyone seen charmlt today? | |
08:41 | please, i need to speak to someone about koha | |
08:42 | I want to know exactly how to load marc record on koha because when i tried what charmlt told me it was giving me broken link | |
08:42 | please someone help me | |
08:43 | i need to fix this as soon as possible | |
08:43 | i mean today | |
08:46 | kf | you mean gmcharlt? |
08:47 | we need more information to help you | |
08:47 | CGI562 | ya |
08:47 | thanks | |
08:47 | kf | which marcflavor is your system? |
08:47 | you need valid marc21 records for koha | |
08:47 | CGI562 | ok |
08:47 | what | |
08:47 | kf | or unimarc |
08:48 | depending on your installation | |
08:48 | did you try staged marc import or bulkmarcimport? | |
08:48 | what error message do you get? | |
08:48 | which version of koha are u using? | |
08:48 | for gmcharlt - its a bit early in us | |
08:49 | CGI562 | Koha 3.0.2 stable version for ubuntu |
08:49 | sorry, I was just trying to put my url(tag 856) to link my local books | |
08:50 | but I always receive broken link | |
08:50 | like http://localhost/e-books/vbook.pdf | |
08:51 | kf? | |
08:53 | hello kf? | |
08:54 | kf | ok, so yo already loaded records but have problems with linking? |
08:54 | can you give me an example of your links? | |
08:55 | we have working links in our opac, i can compare to yours | |
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09:03 | kf | ok |
09:03 | hi hdl | |
09:10 | Amit | heya kf |
09:11 | kf | hi Amit |
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09:19 | CGI562 | kf, I have a pdf file in this directory e-books in document root (/var/www) since I am using ubuntu and I wish to link my record with a pdf file inside this. this is the url http://localhost/e-books/vbook.pdf |
09:23 | kf | hm |
09:23 | not sure this will work | |
09:23 | or it will only work on your server | |
09:24 | if you cant access the link in your browser | |
09:24 | you cant access it from koha | |
09:24 | I think you should use your domain name or ip in the url | |
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09:58 | kf | we have problems with search + icu and alpha - can somebody help with some tips what to check? already deactivated most search functions (query stemming, fuzzy etc.) |
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10:36 | martinmorris | good morning all, can anybody help me with a minor niggle in my koha installation? i'm set to single branch mode, but the staff login screen still offers 'My Library' and 'Biblioteko Butler' (the actual name of our library) in a drop-down box? Can I get rid of that? |
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11:37 | martinmorris | good morning all, can anybody help me with a minor niggle in my koha installation? i'm set to single branch mode, but the staff login screen still offers 'My Library' and 'Biblioteko Butler' (the actual name of our library) in a drop-down box? Can I get rid of that? |
11:37 | nahuel | hmmm |
11:37 | In libraries configurations | |
11:38 | martinmorris | in Administration? |
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11:52 | kf | martinmorris: you cant get rid of it by configuration - I think the singleBranch syspref does not change that |
11:52 | but it should be no problem | |
11:53 | its only staff login and both options have the same effect | |
11:53 | martinmorris | oh it's no problem at all, I just wish it wasn't there :) |
11:53 | thanks kf | |
11:53 | kf | I think you could add something to the template to take singleBranchmode into account |
11:55 | martinmorris | i might have a poke around but i was merely curious |
11:57 | kf | someone else alpha-testing ? we have problems with search, for example can only search for kw when adding kw: to the search term |
11:57 | problem occurs with normal indexing and with icu | |
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12:14 | Ropuch | Hello nengard |
12:14 | nengard | hiya |
12:19 | kf | hi nengard |
12:19 | Ropuch | nengard: I came across your article in which you're saying that the librarians who never switched ILS are affraid of changes |
12:19 | Hi kf [; | |
12:19 | kf | hi Ropuch - sorry :) |
12:19 | Ropuch | nengard: but I can't find it |
12:19 | kf: you should'nt be ;-) | |
12:20 | CGI562 | kf |
12:20 | kf | yes? |
12:20 | CGI562 | u didn't solve my problem |
12:20 | nengard | Ropuch - um .... what article? |
12:21 | I don't think I ever said that in an article ... | |
12:21 | CGI562 | i didn't get u right |
12:21 | I still can not link up my record to my pdf book | |
12:21 | kf | I dont think localhost links will work |
12:22 | have you a link that works in your browser? | |
12:22 | can you post an example 856-field? | |
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12:23 | nengard | Ropuch, all of my presentations and publications are listed here: http://www.web2learning.net/pu[…]ons-presentations |
12:24 | CGI562 | 856 ## - ELECTRONIC LOCATION AND ACCESS 3 Materials specified e-books on Digital Library a Host name mathematicalscience.edu.ng d Path /home/project/Desktop/e-books f Electronic name Digital.pdf k Password project2009 l Logon project o Operating system ubuntu p Port 8080 q Electronic format type pdf u Uniform Resource Identifier http://mathematicalscience.edu[…]books/Digital.pdf |
12:26 | It goes to this link but reports fatal erro 404 broken link | |
12:26 | kf | is your opac accessible? |
12:27 | CGI562 | yes |
12:27 | do you see anything wrong with opac | |
12:28 | kf | can you give me a link to this record? |
12:28 | CGI562 | kf? |
12:28 | kf | a link to your opac? |
12:29 | http://mathematicalscience.edu[…]books/Digital.pdf is not working in my browser | |
12:29 | so it cant work in koha I think | |
12:29 | CGI562 | sorry, it is an intranet site, you may not access it |
12:30 | kf | is the link shown in your opac? |
12:30 | CGI562 | yes |
12:31 | kf | we use less fields than you do |
12:31 | we only have u for the url | |
12:31 | and display text (x? not sure about that one) | |
12:31 | I dont think koha can actually do something with the other values | |
12:33 | CGI562 | is gmcharlt there now? |
12:35 | gmcharlt | hi CGI562 |
12:35 | kf | ok, need to get back to patron import anyway bbl |
12:40 | CGI562 | gmcharlt, the other time u instructed me to set my 856 tag $u to something like this http://mathematicalscience.edu.ng/e-books but I always receives broken link eroor 404? pls, what can I do? |
12:40 | Ropuch | nengard: thanks! |
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12:43 | shamas | hey |
12:43 | i want to know about marc 21 | |
12:43 | from where i can get help | |
12:43 | and how to install marc for windows | |
12:44 | gmcharlt | CGI562: I assume that link works when you test it in your web browser directly? |
12:45 | shamas: http://www.loc.gov/marc has a lot of information about MARC21 | |
12:45 | if you're completely new to MARC, read the tutorials linked from that website first | |
12:46 | shamas | ok thnx |
12:46 | magnus | CGI562: when I try to look at http://mathematicalscience.edu.ng/ i am told the server can not be found. are your sure that is the correct address? |
12:49 | gmcharlt | kf: re searching, is your test OPAC accessible from outside? |
12:50 | kf | gmcharlt: I think no, but I can perhaps change that |
12:51 | gmcharlt: let me check with my colleagues | |
12:51 | gmcharlt | kf: alternatively, email me your Zebra configuration files |
12:51 | though I suspect it may more likely be due to some recent changes to C4/Search.pm | |
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12:54 | CGI562 | gmcharlt, it didn't work, maybe there is something wrong or there is another way of going about it? |
12:55 | gmcharlt | I think the first thing to determine is whether http://mathematicalscience.edu.ng/ is in fact the correct URL - it may not work (yet) at all, regardless of whether you're following a link from your Koha catalog or putting in the URL directly |
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12:56 | gmcharlt | and it may be up to whoever is setting up your server and network to add mathematicalscience.edu.ng to DNS |
12:57 | if you can put up a screenshot of what you see when you try to follow such a link, we may be able to help you better | |
12:57 | CGI562 | gmcharlt, it is an intranet site so it cannot be viewed online |
12:58 | kf | gmcharlt: i fear its Search.pm. we patched from 3.0.61 |
12:58 | gmcharlt | hmm - I read again and see that you're getting a 404 error, so DNS problems are not an issue (at least from within your intranet) |
12:59 | kf | gmcharlt: collegues are still at lunch - zebra configuration files - records.abs etc? |
12:59 | gmcharlt | so it may simply be that some work is needed to configure the webserver to serve things like http://mathematicalscience.edu[…]books/Digital.pdf |
12:59 | kf: right | |
13:00 | kf | gmcharlt: ok, colleague must be back every minute now, I will tell him and thank you! |
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13:02 | gmcharlt | kf: are you working from a dev-mode install for your alpha testing? if so, try creating a new branch and git revert the following commit: eb6b10f8c91 and see if that fixes the immediate problem; if not, try reverting earlier commits to C4/Search.pmm |
13:02 | I'll be testing that myself as well | |
13:04 | kf | gmcharlt: sorry, no dev install, we test-patched our standard install (a clone from production server) |
13:04 | gmcharlt: can you reproduce problems in search? | |
13:04 | with search - sorry | |
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13:05 | gmcharlt | actually, a little more info might help - OPAC or staff, advanced search or the search box? |
13:05 | kf | everywhere :( |
13:06 | gmcharlt | ah, no searches work at all without manually appending kw: ? |
13:06 | kf | gmcharlt: mom, I will check and give you more information |
13:07 | gmcharlt: some things still work - I think it was barcode (retesting now), but free text search seems to be broken everywhere | |
13:07 | Ropuch | I'm gonna test 3.2 this weekend as sson as I get my new laptop - should I get it from HEAD or test the one from alpfa tarball? |
13:08 | gmcharlt | Ropuch: up to you, but my recommendation is to do it as a dev-mode from a git clone rather than the tarball |
13:08 | Ropuch | gmcharlt: fine by me :) |
13:08 | gmcharlt | to checkout the 3.2-alpha version itself, do a git checkout v3.02.00-alpha from the git clone |
13:08 | kf | gmcharlt: opac (simple search): only isbn 3* and call number r* give me results |
13:09 | chris_n | g'morning |
13:09 | kf | gmcharlt: can you point me to the patch that needs to be reverted on git? |
13:10 | gmcharlt | kf: I'm not having any problems doing an OPAC simple search on title, keyword, subject, etc. in my 3.2 install |
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13:11 | Ropuch | gmcharlt: I just want to avoid sending wrong-version patches |
13:11 | gmcharlt | Ropuch: ah, if you're planning to patch, then work from HEAD |
13:11 | Ropuch | gmcharlt: I hope I'll be able to ;> |
13:11 | gmcharlt | cool |
13:11 | kf | gmcharlt: oh :( so we need to find out what our problem is. only isbn, issn, call number seem to work, title, keyword, author etc. not |
13:12 | gmcharlt | kf: so rather than jump to conclusions, Zebra config + info from the OPAC apache log should help track this down |
13:12 | chris_n | gmcharlt: searches appear to work fine here running over the alpha |
13:12 | kf | my collegue told me that there were no errors in the logs |
13:12 | chris_n | but I don't think I'm running zebra with an icu(?) config |
13:13 | gmcharlt | and if you can send me a copy of your C4 and opac CGI directory, I can compare it against alpha just to make sure that there wasn't some problem when you applied the patches |
13:13 | kf | we patched from 3.0.61 - which we will need to do later too. perhaps this is part of our problem |
13:13 | gmcharlt | yeah, right now the ICU config is definitely on the list of things to test |
13:13 | chris_n | gmcharlt: is that a better configuration for zebra? |
13:14 | kf | gmcharlt: its not icu atm - he told me he reconfigured it to be standard search |
13:14 | gmcharlt | speaking of ICU and diacritics, I'd love it if you or someone else could point me to a good sample of German MARC21 records |
13:14 | kf: so it affects both ICU and standard config? hmmm | |
13:14 | kf | atm it seems so, perhaps we missed some stupid little thing |
13:14 | gmcharlt | chris_n: yes, ICU to handle character normalization is better |
13:15 | kf | gmcharlt: lets discuss that - there are some things to consider about German MARC21 records |
13:15 | gmcharlt | speaking of which, chris_n, is there much in the way of Greek and Hebrew in the Foundations catalog? |
13:15 | chris_n | I know jdavidb was having issue with searching on a system with zebra in ICU |
13:15 | kf | gmcharlt: bt I can sure send you examples |
13:15 | chris_n | gmcharlt: very little atm |
13:15 | kf | icu is not working with some search sys prefs |
13:15 | gmcharlt | kf: thanks |
13:15 | chris_n | gmcharlt: more spanish |
13:15 | kf | I told him that and he turned some of them off - told me it works better now |
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13:20 | chris_n | kf, gmcharlt: cait was helping jdavidb the other day with zebra ICU search problems |
13:21 | * jdavidb | looks around for owen, and hides. |
13:21 | chris_n | jdavidb: did you get your zebra ICU/search issue resolved? |
13:21 | owen | It's okay jdavidb I'm not really awake yet |
13:22 | jdavidb | chris_n: ran a reindex last night, with one little change to the icu chain; gonna test here momentarily. |
13:22 | * chris_n | holds his breath ;-) |
13:22 | kf | i am cait ;) |
13:23 | chris_n | lol kf :-) |
13:23 | kf | no joke |
13:23 | jdavidb | Seems to be working; I'm not getting as many results as I was on the production server, which has fuzzy on, but what I'm getting looks *REAL* good. |
13:23 | jwagner | kf, that split personality is really going to get you in trouble.... |
13:23 | jdavidb | And diacritics appear to be working like I want. |
13:23 | chris_n | kf: I believe you; its just funny |
13:24 | kf | jwagner yesss... dont know which to choose yet |
13:24 | chris_n | jdavidb: any chance you can switch to the latest head and try it? |
13:24 | jdavidb | Not on that server. The customer's health and nerves are fragile enough already. |
13:24 | chris_n | hehe |
13:24 | kf | jdavidb: fuzzy was on here and seemed working, turned in off now to investigate our problem after patching |
13:24 | nengard | okay - my job this AM - add the patron card documentation to the manual using the tutorial chris_n gave me yesterday !! |
13:25 | * chris_n | runs and hides ;-) |
13:25 | gmcharlt | why is everybody hiding from everybody else in this channel today? |
13:25 | nengard | hehe |
13:26 | jwagner | gmcharlt, because the Finger of Doom is pointing at them??? |
13:26 | jdavidb | chris_n, I'm gonna be spinning up a couple of instances with new HEAD here in the next day or two; I'm thinking of doing (at least) one with ICU indexing; it's so darn good with diacritics, I'm thinking of making that our stock installation mode. |
13:26 | chris_n | nengard: did my response to you email explain? |
13:26 | nengard | no doom - at least not for chris_n - he already walked me through everything :) |
13:26 | chris_n -yes!! waiting to see if they tried to make the font smaller | |
13:26 | chris_n | nice |
13:27 | jdavidb | owen: When you wake up, I hear you're having deranged hold-prio issues. I hope I can help; I've had occasion to work with that. |
13:28 | nengard | bug question for gmcharlt - or anyone - do we still want someone other than the person who patched the bug to closeit? |
13:28 | clost it? | |
13:28 | i have many bugs i reported and patched and i could close - but i haven't cause i'm the one who wrote the patch :) | |
13:28 | gmcharlt | nengard: more that the original reporter should close it |
13:28 | nengard | okay - well that's me :) |
13:29 | I'll clean up my bugs after i do the documentation update | |
13:29 | gmcharlt | sure, it would be great if somebody else tested and closed self-reported, self-patched bugs, but I think the original reporter closing them is more reasonable to expect |
13:29 | nengard | chris_n - i do need something from you :) you said the label and patron card help files didn't make it into your patch - so if you have those, can you submit them so i can use them and improve upon them? |
13:30 | well - everyone who has HEAD installed - if you could go through the budgets sections and make sure I caught all of the language changes before i close that bug it would be great - if not, i'll close it and open a new one if anyone finds something i missed | |
13:30 | CGI562 | gmchart, I 've test this on my laptop that has no koha just to see if apache can open the link and it works. I think what happen is that webserver is redirecting request to koha document root. Do you know the koha document root? |
13:31 | gmcharlt | that is purely dependent the mode you used when you installed Koha - you have the check the Apache config |
13:32 | chris_n | nengard: I'll get those off shortly |
13:33 | nengard | thanks!! |
13:34 | owen | jdavidb: Here's the kind of thing I'm finding: http://koha.pastebin.com/mf0501 |
13:34 | http://zivotdesign.com/example[…]ority-problem.png | |
13:37 | jdavidb | Two problems to cope with, owen--cause, and cure. cure is easy; I wrote a script to clean up the mess, and reorder the holds in the order they were placed, which I'd be happy to share; it's copied a fair bit from some bits of C4::Reserves. |
13:38 | owen | jdavidb: We used to have a similar script, but it was for 2.x and never got updated. Is your script general-purpose enough that it can be committed? |
13:38 | Something for /misc perhaps? | |
13:38 | gmcharlt | +1 |
13:39 | jdavidb | As to cause, I found a problem on the rendering of that table with a duplicated TMPL_VAR; those things are picked off in an array by the pl script, so one array was twice as long as it should be, with each entry twice. |
13:40 | owen | And here I thought it was gremlins. |
13:40 | jdavidb | I don't know if the problem was in our development, or running HEAD; we've hacked there a bit. But that sort of problem creates the symptom you're seeing. |
13:40 | owen: I'd think the script would be useful enough for misc/maintenance. *shrug* | |
13:41 | gmcharlt | if you can send me the relevant commit from your hackery, that may be enough to figure out if it applies to HEAD |
13:41 | jdavidb: please submit the script, then | |
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13:42 | jdavidb | I'd have to *find* it. part of the recent hackery has a new column in reserves, and I don't know if that's part of HEAD or not. I could also check HEAD and see if the error is still in there; it was plain as the nose on my face, when I saw it. |
13:46 | owen: the script is at http://koha.pastebin.com/d5b72ce8c for your immediate problem-solving pleasure. | |
13:47 | owen | I wish I knew how to duplicate the error so I could test it |
13:49 | nengard | owen - chris_n says you were working on graphics for the label/patron card makers to show how to figure out the measurements |
13:49 | any chance you're still doing this? | |
13:50 | chris_n | owen: this was the graphic to show measurements like margins, pitch, height, width, etc |
13:50 | jdavidb | gmcharlt, owen: The error that was causing this kind of holds-priority problem for us is *not* present in HEAD. a duplication of the hidden-input borrowernumber/biblionumber pairing was causing it, for us. |
13:51 | jwagner | jdavidb, but is it present in .061? owen's running near enough to our version level. |
13:52 | jdavidb | two shakes. |
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13:53 | jdavidb | Nope, I don't see it in that batch, either. |
13:53 | owen | nengard: It's something I worked on quite a while ago. I'm sure I still have the images, not sure if they're complete. |
13:54 | * owen | thought he remembered attaching the images to a bug report... |
13:55 | owen | Here we go, Bug 2069 |
13:55 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2069 enhancement, P3, ---, oleonardmyacpl.org, NEW, Label Example Image |
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13:56 | owen | nengard: I have the originals of all those. I can send them to you in format of choice |
13:57 | nengard | owen, let's do png since that's what all of the screenshots in the manual are |
13:57 | CGI562 | gmcharlt, can u pls give ur email addy? |
13:57 | owen | nengard: Are the sizes of that Bug's attachments appropriate? |
13:58 | nengard | sorry - wasn't even looking at the bug ;) off to check it now |
13:58 | gmcharlt | CGI562: gmcharltgmail.com |
13:59 | nengard | owen, the sizes look a-ok |
14:09 | gmcharlt | @later tell hdl_laptop would appreciate your comments on bug 4104 |
14:09 | munin | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
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14:10 | jwagner | @wunder 20817 |
14:10 | munin | jwagner: The current temperature in Potomac, Maryland is 1.8�C (9:03 AM EST on February 04, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1024.9 hPa (Falling). Winter Storm Watch in effect from Friday morning through Saturday evening... |
14:11 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
14:11 | jwagner | Sigh. |
14:11 | munin | kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 6.0�C (3:00 PM CET on February 04, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa (Falling). |
14:11 | jwagner | kf, can I make a quick trip to Germany??? |
14:11 | We're supposed to get a repeat of the December blizzard starting tomorrow :-( | |
14:11 | kf | sure, come and visit :) |
14:12 | * jwagner | packs suitcase in a hurry |
14:13 | kf | :) |
14:13 | Ropuch | @wunder Wroclaw |
14:13 | munin | Ropuch: The current temperature in Wroclaw, Poland is 1.0�C (3:00 PM CET on February 04, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
14:14 | kf | Ropuch: I win today :) |
14:16 | time to leave - will continue work on our search problem tomorrow. bye #koha | |
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14:25 | hilongo | hello there! :) |
14:27 | Quick question ... I have installed koha 3.0.5 downloading and installing... but I'm having some problems getting it to run properly and thought that maybe I should try to get koha from git... but my koha is already in production ... so I don't know how to procede to replace one with the other :-/ | |
14:30 | gmcharlt | hilongo: the crude-but-simplest way would be to do a new dev-mode install from Git, then just point it to your production mysql database and Zebra database |
14:31 | and update your Apache config to point to the new install, of course | |
14:39 | owen | nengard: Have you done documentation of rotating collections yet? |
14:41 | nengard | nope |
14:41 | all this new stuff came at once :) | |
14:42 | owen | I'm working on some pretty heavy template revisions for it, you might want to wait |
14:42 | hilongo | gmcharlt: OK ... so, the steps would be: 1) git clone (somewere) 2) git pull 3) git fetch --tags 4) git reset --hard (what would I put here?) 5) point this new kohaclone to my mysql and zebra databases (how do I do this? editting the new koha-conf.xml or something else too?) 6) point Apache (via koha-httpd.conf) to the new location) 7) Dance the victory dance .. ... |
14:42 | nengard | owen - thanks!! and awesome!! it did look like it needed your touch :) |
14:44 | gmcharlt | 1) git clone git://git.koha.org/pub/scm/koha.git 2) git checkout -b active origin/3.0.x (or replace origin/3.0.x with the tag of the specific version you want to run) |
14:44 | no need to be doing git fetch, git reset --hard for an initial install | |
14:45 | 5) perl Makefile.PL (when asked, put in your existing mysql DB credentials and set path to existing production Zebra config) | |
14:45 | make; make install | |
14:45 | compare the koha-conf.xml generated by the dev mode install to the already in place and update it | |
14:45 | bounce apache | |
14:46 | dance the victory dance | |
14:46 | missing some details, but hopefully you get the idea | |
14:49 | * jwagner | envisions gmcharlt dancing a victory dance |
14:50 | wizzyrea | i bet it's glorious |
14:51 | owen | I bet it involves some poppin' and lockin' |
14:52 | hilongo | coming soon at Youtube maybe? :) |
14:52 | jwagner | I seem to remember some discussion of creating a haka for Koha -- maybe when chris gets better? |
14:52 | gmcharlt | naw, I dance like a robot whose battery has run down |
14:53 | wizzyrea | Hmm, reminds me of the sound kids toys make when the batteries still have enough juice to go, but it's all warbly and weird |
14:53 | owen will know what I mean | |
14:53 | that isn't to say gmcharlt is warbly and weird, but that's how I imagine his run down robot dance | |
14:54 | gmcharlt | I meant when the battery is completely run down ;) |
14:54 | wizzyrea | Ohh... I think they call that performance art. |
14:55 | jwagner | wizzyrea, something like Tom Paxton's The Marvellous Toy? "It went ZIP when it moved and POP when it stopped and WHIRRRR when it stood still" |
14:55 | wizzyrea | jwagner hehe yes, exactly |
14:55 | sorry I will try to stay on target ;) | |
14:57 | so. Bugs. Anything you would like me to poke at, an area as yet untouched? | |
14:57 | or touched only briefly | |
14:57 | collum | Owen: opac-detail has an id element defined twice. (<body> and <div>) |
14:57 | * chris_n | has gone through a case of bug spray already and its not even 1000 yet :-P |
14:57 | collum | If this id is referenced in css or js which one wins? Or is it browser specific? |
14:58 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: sysprefs and acq |
14:58 | owen | collum: I don't know, it's invalid. |
14:58 | * collum | doesn't have access to koha right now so I hope this is the right page. |
14:58 | wizzyrea | okies |
14:59 | owen | collum: I confirm the problem. The <div> should probably be the one to be renamed. |
14:59 | collum | owen: OK. I can play with it tonight. Unless you just want to do it real quick. |
15:00 | owen | I'll leave it for you. The <div> in question just needs a unique id that more or less describes its role/position. Doesn't need to be brilliant. |
15:00 | collum | yep |
15:03 | owen | Thanks collum |
15:04 | collum | np |
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15:16 | wizzyrea | hm, is this the error colin was referring to in bug 4107? http://screencast.com/t/MmNiZjI3 |
15:16 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4107 blocker, P5, ---, colin.campbellptfs-europe.com, NEW, adding order ends in error |
15:17 | wizzyrea | afk, NExpress Users Group |
15:17 | always a fun time. | |
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15:18 | gmcharlt | wizzy_meeting: different bug, I suspect |
15:18 | have you set up at least one budget? | |
15:23 | chris_n | nengard: I just submitted a couple of patches, one of which is necessary to the correct functionality of the card tool |
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15:25 | nengard | ah - ok i'll look for it to be pushed |
15:25 | wizzy_meeting | yea, I do have a budget |
15:25 | will go back | |
15:26 | still shouldn't it fail in a nicer not so geeky manner? | |
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15:27 | wizzy_meeting | Ah, and even that error is a little misleading |
15:27 | you need a FUND | |
15:29 | gmcharlt | wizzy_meeting: no question - the failure should be nicer, and tell you "go plz make new fund now" - definitely worth filing a bug for |
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15:29 | owen | I can haz fund plz kthankxbai |
15:30 | * gmcharlt | appoints owen as creator of all new error messages |
15:30 | owen | that one's for when we get a lolcat translation to go with the Klingon and Swedish Chef one. |
15:31 | * jwagner | tells owen just to make them all say Eats, Shoots and Leaves |
15:32 | wizzy_meeting | lol owen |
15:32 | I will file a bug thx gmcharlt | |
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15:37 | wizzy_meeting | erm who would be the proper assignee for new-acq? |
15:37 | I feel funny assigning it to ryan | |
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15:38 | wizzyrea | for now :P |
15:38 | bug 4111 | |
15:38 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4111 normal, P5, ---, rchliblime.com, NEW, addorder.pl should fail in a more accurate fashion when no funds are defined. |
15:39 | nengard | awesome |
15:39 | spell checking the manual now as a way to kill time while waiting :) | |
15:39 | owen | wizzyrea: I'd think hdl would be an appropriate assignee for new-acq |
15:40 | * gmcharlt | goes to change default acq assignee |
15:40 | wizzyrea | ty gmcharlt |
15:41 | ok, going to talk practical koha use (for real this time) with our nexpress librarians. back in a bit | |
15:41 | owen | gmcharlt: I'd happy to be the default assignee for the OPAC and delegate. At least it makes more sense than having them go to Josh. |
15:42 | gmcharlt | owen: cool - which email addy? |
15:42 | wizzyrea | owen++ |
15:42 | owen | oleonardmyacpl.org |
15:43 | irma | Hi all |
15:44 | I like to view the log of the 30/1/2010 | |
15:45 | the address http://koha.org/cgi-bin/logs.plSet URL | |
15:45 | is different now... | |
15:46 | any suggestion please? | |
15:47 | owen | http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/today |
15:47 | Or more specifically, http://stats.workbuffer.org/ir[…]g/koha/2010-01-30 | |
15:49 | gmcharlt | who wants to be default assignee for SIP2? |
15:49 | irma | terrific. Thanks Owen and goodnight from me... |
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15:49 | gmcharlt | atz has this bizarre fascination with Evergreen at the moment ;) |
15:51 | owen: done (re OPAC) | |
15:51 | I've also removed jmfliblime.com as default assignee for all components still left with him except website (for which I've added myself as CC) | |
15:52 | jdavidb | Colin has been doing a *lot* of SIP work lately, gmcharlt; might talk to him about taking that. |
15:54 | gmcharlt | @later tell Colin would you be wiling to be the default assignee for the SIP2 bug component? |
15:54 | munin | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
15:55 | owen | Hmmm... No way to delete a rotating collection? |
15:55 | editCollections.pl seems to cover the process, but the template lacks an interface. I wonder if it's buggy. | |
15:56 | gmcharlt | owen: no doubt there are rough edges with it, yes |
15:56 | * owen | grumbles |
15:56 | gmcharlt | and I'm fully prepared to push it out of 3.2 and into 3.4 if need be |
16:02 | owen | gmcharlt: right off the bat I see that transfers of rotating collection items aren't getting handled properly by the returns template |
16:02 | I'm getting conflicting messages | |
16:02 | * gmcharlt | 's hand starts moving towards the revert dagger at his side |
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16:06 | rhcl_away | @seen chris |
16:06 | munin | rhcl_away: chris was last seen in #koha 1 day, 6 hours, 9 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <chris> cool |
16:06 | rhcl_away | any word on chris? is he posting anywhere? |
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16:07 | gmcharlt | rhcl_away: http://twitter.com/ranginui |
16:07 | rhcl | tnx |
16:08 | owen | http://zivotdesign.com/example[…]nsfer-message.png |
16:08 | * owen | grumbles very loudly about that dashed yellow box |
16:13 | nengard | owen - what do you want that box to do? |
16:13 | owen | <div class="dialog alert"> is the correct (standard) style, not <div class="dialog error"> |
16:14 | gmcharlt | owen: hmm, check the last 20 commits or so - I think I may have pushed an unrelated patch that violates that |
16:15 | owen | I may have already caught it gmcharlt, I do remember another one |
16:16 | But my primary concern about that screenshot is the conflict between the two transfer messages | |
16:17 | gmcharlt | yep, that does it |
16:17 | it's going to be moved to future | |
16:18 | * gmcharlt | grumbles, slaps self for pushing it in the first place |
16:24 | is also not looking forward to the X/HTML 5 vs. XHTML2 vs. XHTML1 mess | |
16:29 | owen | There's not going to be any discussion of XHTML2 |
16:29 | * owen | puts his foot down |
16:29 | gmcharlt | he - I'm kicking off the discussion now, actually |
16:33 | * owen | has high hopes for HTML5 and would stick with XHTML-style markup conventions. |
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16:49 | wizzyrea | timeout on local hold, anybody proposed that? |
16:49 | (3.4, for sure) | |
16:50 | gmcharlt | not to my knowledge |
16:50 | wizzyrea | sweet, I'll um.... file a bug I guess. Is there a category for 3.4 yet? |
16:50 | owen | wizzyrea, can you elaborate? |
16:51 | wizzyrea | yessir... so lets say you have a bestseller, and you give it a itype of Local hold, restricting it to branch only patrons |
16:51 | that item will probably not be popular anymore in 6 months | |
16:51 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: I add rel_3_4 to bz |
16:51 | wizzyrea | so no reason to have that itype on it anymore |
16:51 | * owen | supposes he can stop rushing to fix rotating collection templates |
16:52 | wizzyrea | but, 6 months down the road you have to manually remove that itype |
16:52 | it would be nice, if at catalog time, you could set an expiration date | |
16:52 | owen | Sounds like date-based itemtypes |
16:52 | wizzyrea | to automatically change the itype to a non restricted one |
16:52 | does that exist? | |
16:53 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: ah, interesting - akin to Evergreen's notion of "age protection" |
16:53 | owen | Just trying to understand the goal better |
16:53 | * owen | could use some age protection himself |
16:53 | wizzyrea | I'm not familiar with that |
16:53 | gmcharlt | though age protection is an item attribute in EG, not an attribute of (EG's equivalent of) the item type |
16:53 | wizzyrea | but it sounds like it's related |
16:53 | :)( | |
16:54 | I actually think that item attributes are sorely underused in koha, I bet that would be a huge job to revamp :( | |
16:54 | make holdability dependent on item specific attributes instead of itypes | |
16:55 | the local hold thing, now that I'm thinking about it, was a bit of a shoehorn | |
16:56 | brb have to move my car, the realtors next door are getting mad (wow, this meeting is putting me in a foul temper) | |
16:56 | ty for the tag gmcharlt, I'll condense my thoughts and add a bug/enhancement for 3.4 for local hold time-limits | |
16:57 | rhcl | I've just purchased kohacon.com and kohacon.org |
16:58 | these will be for community use (I'll gladly transfer ownership) if the community wants them | |
17:01 | * chris_n | hates it when he accidentally triple clicks and closes more windows then he intended... bah... |
17:02 | owen | That's great rhcl. You'll have to try to connect with chris when he's back online |
17:04 | rhcl | yep |
17:16 | wizzyrea | rhcl: chris is quite ill, was in the hospital. You might try emailing him |
17:16 | if you want response quicker | |
17:21 | rhcl | Oh, it can wait I'm sure. |
17:24 | jwagner | chris is made of sterner stuff than I am. I don't think I'd be tweeting while doctors were attacking me with scalpels and forceps.... |
17:24 | whimpering, maybe, but not tweeting! | |
17:27 | rhcl | what's the escape sequence to "hid" posts here from being logged? |
17:27 | hide | |
17:27 | jwagner | Isn't it open-bracket off close-bracket? |
17:27 | rhcl | [test ] |
17:27 | owen | That's how I remember it |
17:27 | rhcl | well, that obviously worked |
17:28 | wizzyrea: did you want a peek at our libki? We've got a couple clients up and running. | |
17:29 | owen | jdavidb: It worked! |
17:29 | jdavidb | I see that! wooooot! |
17:29 | rhcl | your |
17:30 | * jwagner | says I'm gonna tell!!!! |
17:30 | jdavidb | jwagner: :P |
17:30 | I figured you'd *help* jwagner. | |
17:31 | jwagner | Nah, I don't bother with faces. I just mutter curses.... |
17:31 | gmcharlt | rhcl: remember that while [off] will prevent logbot_backup from recording it, it doesn't prevent anybody who's on channel for logging and posting the conversation </standard disclaimer about IRC logging> |
17:32 | rhcl | sure, understand that... this is a pretty minor thing |
17:32 | jwagner | The problem with making faces is that my face works independently of my thoughts. When I think I'm grimacing in anguish, Jeetika thinks I'm in a good mood.... |
17:35 | jdavidb | you just have a very happy face, jwagner. |
17:36 | (unlike mine. When I'm happy, it looks pretty neutral. When I actually smile, it's time to run and hide in fear.) | |
17:36 | jwagner | Like I said -- face != mood.... |
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17:37 | * owen | face=neutral;mood=hungry |
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17:37 | nengard | is hungry a mood? |
17:39 | imp | sure |
17:40 | sometimes it's a "don't get between me and my food"-mood :D | |
17:40 | rhcl | I have a coupon for a 1/4 lb double cheeseburger from BK in my hand right now. I'm mood. |
17:41 | jwagner | Isn't is more that the cow is mood? |
17:41 | nengard | oh my |
17:41 | * jwagner | is getting slap-happy, I think |
17:42 | jdavidb | jwagner: so go slap someone? I have a little list... |
17:42 | jwagner | Have baseball bat, will travel! |
17:43 | Speaking of which -- 15 days until spring truly begins! (i.e., when pitchers and catchers report for spring training) | |
17:44 | Oh the happiness of me! | |
17:44 | * jwagner | thinks I'd better go get some lunch now. |
17:44 | rhcl | need a coupon? |
17:44 | nengard | hehe |
17:45 | jwagner | For celery sticks? (I _HATE_ healthy lunches!) |
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18:08 | schuster | There we are... was having trouble connecting... |
18:08 | cgi562 did you get your root document directory worked out? | |
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18:10 | schuster | Is there an easy way to compare to files say returns.pl without doing it line by line manually? I want to look at returns.pl at 3.00.00 3.00.04/5 and 3.2 as there are things that happened along the way and I'm curious to see them. |
18:11 | compare two rather than to | |
18:11 | chris_n | diff maybe |
18:11 | or even git diff | |
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18:12 | schuster | so git diff /kohaclone1/returns.pl /kohaclone2/returns.pl |
18:12 | Sorry don't know git well yet. | |
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18:12 | chris_n | like that you would just do 'diff -u /path/file1 /path/file2' |
18:13 | you may want to redirect the output to a file and then edit the file with your favorite text editor | |
18:13 | so 'diff -u /path/file1 /path/file2 > file.diff' | |
18:13 | then 'vim file.diff' | |
18:13 | or whatever | |
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18:14 | chris_n | wb pastebot |
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18:15 | schuster | thank you chris_n - you are of great value to the community! |
18:15 | @karma chris_n ++ | |
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18:15 | * chris_n | thinks munin is at lunch |
18:16 | schuster | hmmm might be my que ;) |
18:16 | chris_n | lol :-) |
18:16 | schuster | in looking at returns.pl today with a perl programmer there were several "FIX ME" spots that concerned me so I wanted to take a closer peek. |
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18:36 | owen | schuster: http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]494449811;hb=HEAD |
18:37 | Maybe that will tell you something? | |
18:43 | wizzyrea | rhcl YES! |
18:52 | ebegin | 11:00 UTC for the Koha meeting, this is in 24h format, so 11am UTC, right? |
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18:54 | jwagner | ebegin, see http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/zones.html -- depends on your timezone. Looks like a painful 6:00 AM ET here |
18:54 | ebegin | jwagner, yep, I'm on the Eastern Time too :) |
18:55 | jwagner | I doubt I'm going to make that meeting.... |
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19:01 | Peach | Hi all |
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19:05 | rhcl | whizzyrea: "YES" what? |
19:05 | BK coupon? | |
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19:10 | CGI646 | hello |
19:10 | joetho | bk coupon yes. She talks about health food but dreams about BK coupons. |
19:11 | CGI646 | can someone answer a koha question for me? |
19:13 | jdavidb | Ask away, 646; if someone can answer, they'll chime in. |
19:14 | CGI646 | cool - thanks. i am just looking at the koha demo and is there a way to print out barcodes for the patrons or books? |
19:15 | i looked in reports | |
19:15 | * jwagner | says "Paging chris_n" |
19:16 | jdavidb | The demo on the koha.org site is a fair bit out-of-date; I think there has been some recent work in that area, particularly on patrons. What is already present, for items, is in the Tools menu, as "Label Creator." |
19:16 | CGI646 | ah...just found it thanks! |
19:16 | * chris_n | drags himself out of a pit of bugs and grasps the keyboard |
19:16 | wizzyrea | you probably want to look at the demos on koha-community.org |
19:16 | jdavidb | wizzyrea++ |
19:17 | wizzyrea | and there's a slightly better method for connecting to the IRC channel there as well :) |
19:17 | one where you get to pick your nick | |
19:17 | chris_n | jwagner: here.... just |
19:17 | jdavidb | The demos at koha-community.org are fresher, at the moment. |
19:17 | wizzyrea | they are actually up to head as of yesterday |
19:17 | CGI646 | ok - i am looking for a program for a small charter school and found this through a google search. i have looked at library express - is koha a pretty good program? |
19:17 | wizzyrea | we think so |
19:17 | jdavidb | awesome, wizzyrea! you rock! |
19:18 | wizzyrea | jdavidb had you not seen that? |
19:18 | I've been busy >.> | |
19:18 | jdavidb | I saw it the night you stood it up, but I've not been back there since; been kinda busy with stuff here. |
19:18 | wizzyrea | and gmcharlt too, he's written most of the content |
19:18 | PH helped with the CSS a little | |
19:19 | jdavidb | :-O Someone other than owen knows css around these parts? Who knew!? :P |
19:19 | wizzyrea | lol |
19:19 | owen | I've just got the best marketing team |
19:19 | jdavidb | heheh |
19:20 | CGI646 | thanks for your help and feedback - i'll check out the demo at koha-community.org |
19:20 | thanks again | |
19:20 | jdavidb | 646, you could do a *lot* worse for your library than koha. |
19:21 | wizzyrea | some argue that you couldn't do better :) |
19:22 | jdavidb | for some libraries, I'd agree, wizzyrea. I don't think that (today) you could get Queens Borough to say so, or Library of Congress, but someday, someday... |
19:22 | jwagner | chris_n, I was just seeing if you wanted to describe your label & patron card creator for CGI646 |
19:22 | CGI646 | the school doesn't have any kind of program now and they only want to enter in their data once |
19:23 | schuster | Koha would be a good starting point as a school... and the price is right generally |
19:23 | Depends on if they have a Debian server that can be setup and someone to help do updates. | |
19:23 | wizzyrea | a good nerd always helps |
19:24 | jdavidb | Koha's pretty darn good for K-12 work (I hope schuster agrees with that; I'd consider him authoritative on that.) |
19:24 | wizzyrea | in fact, |
19:24 | I would consider a good nerd a requirement for running koha | |
19:24 | :P | |
19:24 | or at least someone who's willing to geek out with us while we help get you going | |
19:25 | CGI646 | i would be that nerd |
19:25 | wizzyrea | excellent :) |
19:25 | CGI646 | maybe :) |
19:25 | wizzyrea | http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ lists the requirements |
19:25 | jdavidb | you've already demonstrated one important skill--you're here, askin' questions. |
19:26 | CGI646 | very tru |
19:27 | joetho | it lists the requirements for being a nerd? |
19:27 | jdavidb | What youo see right now is a pretty normal population here, for this time of day. During US working hours, are usually several folks around who can help with things. |
19:27 | CGI646 | pardon my ignorance - do the requirements listed mean it won't run on a windows environment? |
19:28 | jdavidb | It has been done on Windows, but it's not a popular setup. |
19:28 | rhcl | You wouldn't really want to try. :) |
19:28 | CGI646 | ok |
19:30 | ok - let me poke around some more in the demo during the last few minutes of my lunch break. thanks again for the advice/feedback etc. | |
19:30 | jdavidb | You bet. best of luck. |
19:32 | CGI646 | thanks |
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19:33 | * jdavidb | has done his good deed for the day, and can now return to grumpy-old-coot mode. |
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19:35 | wizzyrea | lol grumpy-old-coot |
19:35 | ...can it run on windows. I'm not sure I really want to go there | |
19:36 | running anything on windows kind of gives me the heebie jeebies | |
19:36 | jdavidb | wizzyrea, I don't think either one of us is quite masochistic enough for that. |
19:36 | wizzyrea | and it is, truly, masochism |
19:36 | "Please microsoft... hit me again... oh the pain... again!" | |
19:36 | rhcl | all the (best) help would be for Linux, to try on Windows would require some knowledge and ability to wing some of it |
19:37 | jdavidb | One o' these days, when I'm up for some pain and suffering, I'll try to spin Koha up using IIS. Behind a firewall, natch. Merely looking at the IIS package opens you up to all sorts of leaky security. |
19:38 | wizzyrea | I looked at it sideways once, and a russian hacker pwnt my brain |
19:38 | rhcl | IIS with Win98 on a PII ? |
19:38 | * jdavidb | throws a Koosh at rhcl. |
19:38 | rhcl | What the *heck* is a Koosh? That don't even google right |
19:39 | jdavidb | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koosh |
19:39 | rhcl | Oh, it's a ball thingie |
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19:39 | wizzyrea | very popular in the mid 90's |
19:39 | a squooshy, crazy looking ball | |
19:39 | rhcl | I got some good swag day before yesterday. |
19:40 | * jwagner | screams in anguish |
19:40 | rhcl | well, off to clean off my workbench... |
19:40 | jdavidb | wizzyrea: You still running Easy Peasy on your Eee? |
19:40 | rhcl is now known as rhcl_away | |
19:41 | jdavidb | you okay, jwagner? |
19:41 | jwagner | WHY are subscription periodicity values hardcoded in the template and the pm file? It's impossible to do a report to list a serial title and its frequency!!! |
19:41 | wizzyrea | actually, I was running UNR on it |
19:41 | ubuntu netbook remix | |
19:41 | * jdavidb | nods. |
19:42 | wizzyrea | is good. |
19:42 | jdavidb | I switched to EEEBuntu a while back, and it smokes along pretty well. |
19:42 | * jdavidb | hasn't tried running Koha on that. Yet. |
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19:51 | wizzyrea | hmm have we seen any movemint on bug 3595 |
19:51 | movement | |
19:51 | brendan | munin ? |
19:51 | * wizzyrea | cries... munin is away |
19:51 | wizzyrea | http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3595 |
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19:51 | brendan | oh bummer... How am I to figure out the weather? |
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19:51 | wizzyrea | www.weather.gov |
19:52 | http://forecast.weather.gov/Ma[…]eld2=-119.827&e=0 | |
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19:53 | brendan | thanks munin er... wizzyrea |
19:53 | wizzyrea | I remember where you are, he doesn't ;) |
19:53 | brendan | so munin is a guy to you? |
19:53 | I think of munin as an it | |
19:53 | wizzyrea | it |
19:53 | it doesn't | |
19:53 | Jo | morning all |
19:53 | wizzyrea | >.< |
19:53 | brendan | morning Jo |
19:54 | Jo | I think Munin is a guy |
19:54 | wizzyrea | hey jo. any word from chris? I sure hope he's feeling better |
19:54 | Jo | no word. |
19:54 | wizzyrea | poor fella |
19:55 | Jo | I had tonisls out when I was 27. It was all terrific until the morphine wore off then I was in unbelievable pain for about 3 days ... so not expoecting to hear from him :( |
19:55 | * jwagner | sends chris lots of ice cream, popsicles, and other cool and soothing stuff |
19:55 | Jo | Mason: you up and about yet? |
19:56 | wizzyrea | chloraseptic spray |
19:56 | man I had mono in college, and that was terrible, i can only imagine what it must be like to have your tonsils out | |
19:56 | Jo | liquid painkillers (childrens paracetemol is ghastly in large amounts ) |
19:57 | wizzyrea | chloraseptic spray *then* take your pills |
19:57 | Jo | a dm on twitter gets to his phone - if he has it switched on of course |
19:57 | wizzyrea | spray -> pill pop |
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19:57 | Jo | ah - see there you go! My Dad would have said gargle with whiskey (swalowing optional) |
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19:57 | wizzyrea | i hear that works for the hiccups too |
19:57 | lol | |
19:57 | * jdavidb | chills a bottle of whiskey. |
19:58 | Jo | asking a kid to swallow straight whiskey was a bit dodgy i alwasy thought |
19:58 | wizzyrea | haha yea |
19:58 | Jo | so, talk to me about the bug squashing party next week. |
19:59 | schuster | makes them sleep well though not the bug squashing, but the wisky |
19:59 | Jo | probably both :) |
19:59 | i have a bunch of bugs found in our test koha 3.x. | |
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20:00 | Jo | i was thinking i should load them into bugzilla but now unsurte. |
20:00 | shhould i wait until after i have tested them on the latest release | |
20:00 | wizzyrea | yea, probably |
20:00 | what kind of bugs | |
20:00 | Jo | probably what? |
20:00 | advanced search, | |
20:01 | wizzyrea | wait until you've tested on the latest release |
20:01 | Jo | patrons accounts |
20:01 | no blockers just little annoyances which will trash the goodwill towards going live in about 3 mins flat | |
20:01 | ok - sonext question. | |
20:02 | will there be a latest release test database that we could access for the bug squashing day | |
20:02 | i doubt that chris will have been able to get ours updated by then | |
20:02 | wizzyrea | um, the bywater demo on koha-community.org is up to date to db revision 111 |
20:02 | if that heps | |
20:02 | helps | |
20:02 | Jo | cool. |
20:02 | wizzyrea | which is... yesterday |
20:02 | Jo | i would like to particpate and will roster one of senior staff on as well (good intro to koha community) |
20:03 | wizzyrea | yea, finding bugs is almost as important as squashing them :) |
20:03 | Jo | we won't be able to fix anything but are quite at finding, testing and reporting back |
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20:04 | Jo | quite good (i meant) |
20:04 | right - off to work | |
20:04 | gmcharlt | Jo++ |
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20:05 | wizzyrea | wb |
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20:07 | owen | Hi vickiteal |
20:07 | wizzyrea | hey vickiteal |
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20:08 | wizzyrea | owen: what do you think of this interface http://screencast.com/t/YjA4YzRhMzI |
20:09 | does it look odd to you? | |
20:09 | like it needs some padding or something | |
20:09 | owen | Yes |
20:10 | * wizzyrea | realizes she should close her tabs before sending screenshots |
20:10 | wizzyrea | but is terribly lazy |
20:10 | owen | It's okay, it gives us all a chance to snoop ;) |
20:11 | wizzyrea: How did you reach that page? | |
20:11 | wizzyrea | good question |
20:12 | joetho | one facebook tab. Not bad., |
20:12 | wizzyrea | let be backtrack |
20:12 | ;) | |
20:12 | I created an order | |
20:12 | I hit "Close this basket" | |
20:12 | Clicked "Yes" | |
20:13 | and that did it | |
20:13 | incidentally, if you hit back, and do those steps from a completed basket, it creates a new basket | |
20:13 | identical* | |
20:13 | * owen | gets so confused by acquisitions |
20:14 | wizzyrea | me too |
20:14 | I suppose it makes sense if you use it every day | |
20:14 | it's very hard to test :/ | |
20:15 | owen | I'd love to see the workflow diagrammed |
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20:15 | wizzyrea | yes, that would be super helpful |
20:15 | sekjal | agreed. |
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20:15 | braedon|work | anyone know what version of Graphics::Magick 3.2a needs? the perl makefile has it as an undisplayable character when it complains about it |
20:16 | (for me) | |
20:17 | wizzyrea | hrm http://screencast.com/t/ODIyYTZlYjEt |
20:17 | can anybody else replicate? I'll file the bug if so | |
20:17 | Jo | I can draw up our acquisitions workflow if you like |
20:17 | wizzyrea | ooh, and if you cancel the download the basket disappears |
20:18 | braedon|work | is it just me that gets XML Parsing Errors when viewing those links? |
20:18 | wizzyrea | or disappears regardless of whether you print or not |
20:18 | Jo | we use koha entirely for acq |
20:18 | wizzyrea | the screencast ones? |
20:18 | braedon|work | ya |
20:18 | wizzyrea | I've never had an issue with them |
20:18 | sekjal | Jo: that'd be great! |
20:18 | wizzyrea | http://content.screencast.com/[…]b93e/00000128.png |
20:18 | owen | Jo: It might be helpful but you probably don't have all the features we're looking at. New stuff in 3.2 |
20:18 | braedon|work | that one works |
20:18 | Jo | ok - onto it now (nothing like putting off other stuff that has to be done) |
20:18 | wizzyrea | yea, it's just the png without the wrapper |
20:19 | oh hell, and the PDF isn't actually downloaded/generated | |
20:19 | booo | |
20:19 | sigh off to bugzilla I go | |
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20:25 | Jo | looking at the conversation I think we use acquisitions in a very low level way :( My diagram may not be all that helpful for bigger systems |
20:26 | or for koha 3 for that matter ... | |
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20:39 | wizzyrea | okies, I have a headache, see you all tomorrow |
20:39 | :) | |
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21:17 | brendan | @seen munin |
21:17 | boooooo | |
21:17 | owen | munin didn't survive the Great Lunchtime Booting of Feb. 4 2010 |
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21:35 | * chris_n | squashes the last bug of the day |
21:35 | chris_n | and heads back to the stall |
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21:38 | Jo | so I have done a visio diagram of how we use acquisitions here at HLT as a starting point. Can someone advise what would be the best way to share it? |
21:38 | richard | i think visio lets you export as jpeg |
21:38 | Jo | Can save it as png, jpeg etc or a visio drawing |
21:39 | (waves at Richard) | |
21:41 | chris_n | Jo: maybe in both visio and jpeg? |
21:42 | Jo | ok. |
21:42 | now how do I share them? I can load them into Kete from where they can be downloaded | |
21:43 | but they kinda belong somewhere more Koha community space than HLT | |
21:43 | I'll load them into Kete and someone clever can take them from there and put them anywhere useful | |
21:43 | brendan | Hey Jo |
21:44 | I'd say send it to Nicole and maybe she can add it to the manual | |
21:44 | err.. nengard that is | |
21:46 | Jo | oh Brendan ... I suspect we operate at a very basic level compared to other big organisations. |
21:46 | maybe way way to simple :) | |
21:46 | brendan | jo - I think it all helps |
21:47 | Jo | but I will alert her to it and she can take it from there :) |
21:47 | brendan | if you're doing that way I'm sure their are loads of others that are doing the same way |
21:51 | Nate | goodnight everyone! |
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21:52 | Jo | here 'tis: http://kete.library.org.nz/en/[…]m?view_size=large |
21:53 | * brendan | loves kete |
21:54 | chris_ | back, sorta |
21:54 | joetho | jo nicole mentioned earlier today that all her screenshots are png |
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21:55 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: ? |
21:56 | chris_ is now known as chris | |
21:56 | hdl_laptop | @later tell gmcharlt about bug 4104 I asked matts to cope with that |
21:59 | sekjal | hey, chris |
21:59 | Jo | Hi Chris |
21:59 | sekjal | how are you? |
21:59 | brendan | hi chris - sending get well virtual teas |
22:00 | chris | mostly ok, pretty out of it |
22:01 | but the swelling is going down so i can swallow again | |
22:01 | chris_n | hey chris |
22:02 | Jo | got lots of happy drugs I hope |
22:02 | hdl_laptop | get well chris |
22:03 | rhcl_away | wb chris |
22:04 | chris | yeah some decent painkillers |
22:04 | and thanks all | |
22:08 | joetho | try not to yawn Chris |
22:10 | gmcharlt | hi hdl_laptop |
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22:12 | gmcharlt | welcome back, chris |
22:12 | sekjal | KUDOS board meeting minutes published to the listserv |
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22:17 | chris | sweet, when was the meeting sekjal? |
22:17 | sekjal | just wrapped up a few minutes ago |
22:18 | * chris | updates http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/ |
22:18 | chris | CILEA and Mill run added |
22:19 | fixing up software.coop now | |
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22:22 | chris | right and now to add libriotech |
22:23 | sekjal | alright, time to get some fresh air. until tomorrow, #koha |
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22:26 | chris | ok, now just ptfs europe to go and that should be everyone represented on that page now |
22:26 | inclusion++ | |
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22:39 | brendan | inclusion++ indeed |
22:41 | moodaepo | @wunder 56001 |
22:43 | * moodaepo | broke mon wunder? |
22:43 | chris_n | gmcharlt: will munin be back soon? |
22:44 | gmcharlt | oops, didn't noticed it had died |
22:46 | chris | wheres owen i needs his mad skillz |
22:46 | brendan | yup as owen says "munin didn't survive the Great Lunchtime Booting of Feb. 4 2010" |
22:46 | munin joined #koha | |
22:46 | brendan | munin++ |
22:46 | chris | yay munin |
22:47 | gmcharlt | actually, it had survived, it just dropped its connection to irc.katipo.co.nz and failed to regain it for some reason |
22:47 | chris | http://kohacon.appspot.com/2010/registration/ i need some css styles |
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22:50 | T3SS3L | hello everybody |
22:50 | any from América ? | |
22:50 | * T3SS3L | is in Guatemala |
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22:51 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
22:51 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.1�C (2:45 PM PST on February 04, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Falling). |
22:52 | chris | @wunder wellington nz |
22:52 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (11:05 AM NZDT on February 05, 2010). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady). |
22:52 | brendan | gotcha beat by just a little bit |
22:52 | 1.1 is a win in my book | |
22:53 | rhcl_away | chris: I snagged kohacon.org and kohacon.com |
22:53 | these are for the community--I'll be glad to transfer ownership to whoever represents the community if they want them | |
22:56 | chris | thanks very much |
22:56 | rhcl_away | np |
22:56 | chris | when chilts is back, ill get you to point them to kohacon.appspot.com |
22:57 | rhcl_away | OK |
22:58 | Eventually I'd like to go ahead and actually transfer the ownership, but no hurry for that. | |
22:59 | chris | yeah, jo at hlt is who you want to talk to about that one |
23:14 | Jo | i'm back |
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