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| 00:22 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
| 00:22 | munin` | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 12.4�C (4:17 PM PST on January 26, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010.4 hPa (Falling). |
| 00:23 | brendan | @wunder wellington nz |
| 00:23 | munin` | brendan: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 24.0�C (1:00 PM NZDT on January 27, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 00:23 | brendan | I think it will be a few months until I can compete with you again - chris |
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| 01:13 | braedon | hey, anyone around in here? |
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| 01:22 | chris_n2 | @wunder 28334 |
| 01:22 | munin` | chris_n2: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 7.3�C (8:16 PM EST on January 26, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 15%. Dew Point: -18.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1002.9 hPa (Falling). |
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| 03:41 | Amit | hi brendan |
| 03:41 | good morning #koha | |
| 03:43 | brendan | hi amit |
| 03:44 | thd-away is now known as thd | |
| 03:50 | thd | chris_n2: what is the relation of chris_n to chris_n2? |
| 03:52 | chris_n2: how do I tell which is the real you? | |
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| 05:01 | wajasu | Continuing my transform from a legacy catalogue database to koha, I wonder if I should format all the call numbers to no have spaces between the logic breaking points. The spaces had been added so the spine label would print and break on space. Should I store it without spaces and design a new spine label accordingly with koha or leave them in? |
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| 05:39 | brendan | night #koha |
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| 06:47 | Ropuch | Morning #koha |
| 07:13 | Amit | heya Ropuch |
| 07:15 | Ropuch | @wunder Wroclaw |
| 07:15 | munin` | Ropuch: The current temperature in Wroclaw, Poland is -20.0�C (8:00 AM CET on January 27, 2010). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -22.0�C. Windchill: -20.0�C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Falling). |
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| 11:16 | chris_n2 | thd: I'm both; chris_n is at work and chris_n2 is at home |
| 11:17 | usually I'm chris_n2 after 1630 EST | |
| 11:17 | and chris_n after 0800 EST | |
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| 12:00 | zico | hi |
| 12:00 | i have just deleted one item record... it`s deleted | |
| 12:01 | but... if i search that... it even comes...and when i click on that... it shows "Error 404..." | |
| 12:01 | why it isn`t deleted completely? | |
| 12:03 | Amit | heya |
| 12:03 | zico | |
| 12:03 | zico: rebuild your zebra | |
| 12:05 | slef | erm, nahuel, hi (from Monday morning) |
| 12:07 | chris: http://coffeecode.net/archives[…]-not-science.html comment #2 is a bit harsh | |
| 12:10 | Amit | heya slef |
| 12:10 | slef | Amit: hi. biab, sorry |
| 12:13 | zico | Amit: i rebuild zebra with rebuild_zebra.pl -b -w |
| 12:13 | but, nothing changed | |
| 12:13 | Amit | with -b -z option |
| 12:13 | Zico: run with -z option | |
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| 12:22 | nahuel | hi slef |
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| 12:47 | slef | hi nahuel - did you want anything in particular? |
| 12:48 | nahuel | yep |
| 12:48 | you made the offline circ on koha3.0 ? | |
| 12:48 | isn't it ? | |
| 12:52 | slef | no, kyle did that one |
| 12:52 | I'm interested in it but have not yet had chance to look at it (oh, so often) | |
| 12:52 | nahuel | héhé |
| 12:52 | Some user of us found some problems with it | |
| 12:53 | slef | I've spent lots of time on various pieces of failing network hardware so far this week :-( |
| 12:53 | nahuel | héhé |
| 12:53 | ok thanks | |
| 12:53 | slef | post to katipo list and ask where to send bugs? |
| 12:54 | chris_n | zico: rebuild_zebra.pl -r -a -b should do it |
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| 13:06 | hdl_laptop | hi |
| 13:06 | gmcharlt: around ? | |
| 13:07 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: yes |
| 13:07 | hdl_laptop | hi gmcharlt |
| 13:07 | I saw that master branch is kicking alive GREAT. | |
| 13:07 | gmcharlt | had a question for you - I'm about to pull in the last of the new_acq fixes and branch off 3.2.x - please confirm which branch to pull from |
| 13:08 | hdl_laptop | I just rebased a koha_biblibre_master on your official_master |
| 13:08 | I could send the patches onlist if you want | |
| 13:09 | CGI562 | Hello, can anyone help with a problem i am experiencing? |
| 13:09 | hdl_laptop | s/your official_master/ the official master/ |
| 13:10 | CGI562 | I have installed Koha but i am at the same time having problems with loading ebooks on it |
| 13:11 | cant i load ebooks and ejournals within koha system? | |
| 13:12 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: ? |
| 13:12 | CGI562: you have to have a different repository and management for those at the moment | |
| 13:13 | CGI562: you can add link to those ressources in a subfield but Koha is an ILS not a ERM. | |
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| 13:17 | zico | chris_n: thanks chris, it`s working now |
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| 13:18 | chris_n | g'morning owen |
| 13:18 | owen | Hi |
| 13:18 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: I'll pull from koha_biblibre_master |
| 13:19 | hdl_laptop | ok. |
| 13:19 | It is the uptodate 3.2 for us. | |
| 13:19 | chris_n | is anyone using the xslt features in opac and successfully displaying 505$t ? |
| 13:21 | jwagner | chris_n, I don't recall trying for the 505$t, but looking at the MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl file, it should show if indicator 2 is 0. You should be able to modify that file to show it regardless of the indicator. |
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| 13:22 | chris_n | jwagner: that's what I thought, however regardless of the indicator the tag does not display :-( |
| 13:22 | I suppose I'll have to go into debug mode | |
| 13:23 | jwagner | You could try adding t to the line <xsl:with-param name="codes">au</xsl:with-param> |
| 13:23 | chris_n | 505$t displays fine under the "Title Notes" tab in opac-detail.pl though, so it must be the xml |
| 13:24 | I'll try that and see what's up | |
| 13:24 | jwagner | ? Where were you trying to make it show? All the 5xx fields show in that Title Notes tab and I've had limited success trying to make them appear elsewhere. |
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| 13:30 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: I'm not seeing a koha_biblibre_master on git://git.biblibre.com/koha_biblibre.git |
| 13:30 | hdl_laptop | it is named master |
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| 13:36 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: tons of merge conflicts - please give me a branch I can pull from |
| 13:37 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: you should see 3.2_biblibre appear. |
| 13:38 | It is the official/master with koha_biblibre_master on top | |
| 13:38 | Hoping that the rebase was ok | |
| 13:41 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: it needs work before I can merge it, mostly in updatedatabase.pl |
| 13:41 | please review changes from colin re update database fixes | |
| 13:41 | hdl_laptop | those changes should be taken into account. |
| 13:42 | It is a rebase on top of master. | |
| 13:42 | gmcharlt | and fix the ersatz extra "3.01.00.102" and ersatz '3.02.00.015' |
| 13:42 | a rebase is not completely magical - you still have to ensure that changes the updatedatabase.pl make sense | |
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| 13:44 | CGI562 | how do you link/specify a file from your local system with Koha? |
| 13:45 | gmcharlt | CGI562: you can add an 856 field to a bib record pointing to the resource, assuming it's available over the web |
| 13:45 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: Just saw those two ersatz. |
| 13:46 | chris_n | jwagner: when xslt is enabled in the detail view, a 'Contents:' tag is displayed directly below the 'Related Subjects' tag |
| 13:46 | hdl_laptop | And also the diff on updatedatabase. |
| 13:46 | gmcharlt: Is a patch fixing those on top ok ? | |
| 13:46 | CGI562 | i am new to koha and i have some pdf files on my system that i want to paths into koha |
| 13:47 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: yes, I can pull again when you have it ready |
| 13:47 | CGI562 | what do you mean by 856 field to a bib record |
| 13:47 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: this branch was not meant to be out today. |
| 13:47 | gmcharlt | ? |
| 13:48 | do you want me to hold off pulling from it? | |
| 13:48 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: i wanted to have it tested. |
| 13:48 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop++ |
| 13:49 | CGI562: a bibliographic record stores information about a title you have in the catalog. Koha stores bib records in somethign called MARC format | |
| 13:49 | CGI562 | gmcharlt, please give me insight into what you mean by 856 field to a bib record |
| 13:49 | gmcharlt | and MARC uses numeric tags to identify fields |
| 13:49 | if you're using the US/Australian/Canadia/British/etc of MARC called MARC21 | |
| 13:49 | tag 245 holds the title, for instance | |
| 13:49 | CGI562 | i am all ear |
| 13:50 | gmcharlt | tag 856 is designated for a URL |
| 13:50 | so if you have a PDF located at http://yourserver.org/pdfs/1.pdf for example | |
| 13:50 | you can add an 856 to a bib record with that URL in a subfield $u | |
| 13:50 | CGI562 | ok |
| 13:50 | gmcharlt | and Koha will display that bib in the catalog interface with a hyperlink |
| 13:51 | hdl_laptop: how long, then? | |
| 13:51 | hdl_laptop | So that I will try to have it for tomorrow |
| 13:52 | owen | Just updated to the latest HEAD and I'm getting this error from admin/preferences.pl: Can't locate C4/Bookfund.pm in @INC |
| 13:52 | gmcharlt | ok |
| 13:52 | CGI562 | where is your pdfs directory located on your system? Is it at the koha document root or what is the koha document root? |
| 13:53 | gmcharlt, where is your pdfs directory located on your system? Is it at the koha document root or what is the koha document root? | |
| 13:53 | gmcharlt | that's essentially up to you - you can configure Apache to create a directory for them |
| 13:53 | I would recommend keeping them outside of the Koha document root, actually | |
| 13:54 | hdl_laptop: re owen's query, is there a new_acq equivalent to GetLocalCurrency()? | |
| 13:54 | CGI562 | ok |
| 13:55 | gmcharlt, thanks, i shall try your recommendations and get back to you. But are you always online? | |
| 13:56 | gmcharlt | CGI562: heh - no, but there are always lots of people on #koha |
| 13:56 | schuster | When it comes to MARC records there are several of us here that might be able to help you - he was just faster on the draw today! |
| 13:56 | jwagner | Also see the LC standard for MARC records at http://www.loc.gov/marc/biblio[…]hic/ecbdhome.html |
| 13:57 | schuster | Or you can post to koha-discuss or koha-dev and you will get responses to questions on the forum. |
| 13:57 | goodone jwagner... | |
| 13:57 | gmcharlt | koha-discuss? what list be that? |
| 13:58 | CGI562: the Library of Congress has a tutorial on MARC as well - http://www.loc.gov/marc/umb/ | |
| 13:58 | schuster: the main koha mailing list I assume, not a new list actually called koha-discuss? | |
| 14:01 | schuster | Yes gmcharlt the general mailing list - it comes up for me as koha-discuss - http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha |
| 14:02 | gmcharlt | owen: I've pusehd a patch that should fix that problem |
| 14:02 | owen | Thanks gmcharlt |
| 14:03 | gmcharlt | @later tell pianohacker will you have a chance to update the new sysprefs page for the new_acq and other new preferences? |
| 14:03 | munin` | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:17 | owen | gmcharlt: I'm still getting the same error after updating |
| 14:20 | gmcharlt | owen: still complaing about C4::Bookfund? |
| 14:20 | owen | Oh, sorry I'm not paying attention well enough. Now it's complaining about Budget.pm |
| 14:21 | CGI562 | please, is this link for koha related problems alone or general programming problems? |
| 14:21 | gmcharlt | owen: sorry - try again |
| 14:22 | owen | CGI562: Which link? The Koha mailing list? It's for Koha related problems. |
| 14:23 | Now it's "Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/admin/preferences.pl line 46." | |
| 14:25 | gmcharlt | owen: is there an active currency defined in your database - currency where active = 1? |
| 14:25 | schuster | CGI562 - if you have specific programming issues there is a list for development as well - http://lists.koha.org/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel |
| 14:25 | owen | gmcharlt: No |
| 14:26 | schuster | go owen go owen... We know you can do it!! Blaze the trail for the rest of us thank you! |
| 14:30 | * jwagner | hands schuster a cheerleader's pom-pom :-) |
| 14:30 | gmcharlt | pictures, please |
| 14:32 | schuster | http://image.orientaltrading.c[…]g?resize(120x120) - I don't have a good picture of owen or I'd work up something better... |
| 14:33 | http://miburl.com/23Oytq | |
| 14:33 | gmcharlt | owen: third time's a charm, hopefully |
| 14:33 | jwagner | Heh. I'll settle for detailed notes from owen :-) |
| 14:34 | CGI562 | thank you everybody, i will be back some other time, let me try the adding of records on koha as recommended by gmcharlt. |
| 14:34 | owen | "Global symbol "$currency" requires explicit package name at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/admin/preferences.pl line 48." |
| 14:36 | * gmcharlt | redefines "third" to mean "fourth" |
| 14:36 | gmcharlt | try again |
| 14:36 | owen | Success |
| 14:37 | Yay new system prefs! | |
| 14:37 | gmcharlt | owen++ # you're one patient dude |
| 14:38 | jwagner | Yay owen! |
| 14:38 | owen | What am I supposed to do, storm off in a huff? :) |
| 14:38 | gmcharlt | there would be precedent for that ;) |
| 14:38 | jwagner | Some of us (cough cough) have been known to do that.... |
| 14:39 | * chris_n | throws xslt out the window |
| 14:40 | jwagner | chris_n, I hope it was a high window! |
| 14:40 | owen | :D |
| 14:40 | chris_n | hehe |
| 14:40 | * jdavidb | storms off in a huff, just for practice. |
| 14:40 | chris_n | I figure there is either a bug in the style sheet or in XML::LibXSLT |
| 14:41 | but don't have time to a) learn xslt foo and b) debug Koha's xslt foo | |
| 14:41 | schuster | I usually just get a headache from banging my head on the monitor or desk - why won't this work why won't this work... What am I doing wrong... |
| 14:41 | jwagner | Which version, and what are you doing? (Still trying for the 505$t?) |
| 14:42 | chris_n | jwagner: ver: HEAD |
| 14:42 | and still trying fro 505$t | |
| 14:42 | the parsed xml record has the $t subfields formatted exactly as other subfields | |
| 14:43 | but after the template is applied they magically disappear | |
| 14:43 | * chris_n | mistakenly thought that using xslt would be easier than modifying templates :-P |
| 14:44 | jwagner | I dunno then -- haven't really looked at HEAD. Is this for staff or OPAC side, incidentally? |
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| 14:44 | chris_n | well, they do not disappear entirely, because the conditional evals true so the "Contents" tag is displayed, just not the subfield data |
| 14:44 | OPAC | |
| 14:45 | but when turned on it appears to affect staff client as well | |
| 14:45 | * chris_n | wonders if it is safe to rebase now? |
| 14:47 | gmcharlt | chris_n: the branch has stabilized for the moment - hdl_laptop will have some new_acq stuff for me to pull tomorrow, but other than that and bugfixes, HEAD is now 3.2-alpha-candidate |
| 14:47 | obviously, practice good Git hygiene and merge into a new branch first before trying to merge in your feature branches | |
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| 14:49 | chris_n | gmcharlt++ |
| 14:50 | schuster | OK so I have a question - if I have a database say 3.0.32(LL release numbers) can I take that database and load it into 3.0.100? |
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| 14:50 | kf | hi #koha |
| 14:51 | Colin | gmcharlt: nice to see HEAD above water |
| 14:51 | gmcharlt | schuster: if LL hasn't made too many changes in the 3.0.x series, it would be worth trying, but *only*, I repeat, *only*, in a test database |
| 14:59 | schuster | have to get a good backup first! ok thanks - yes test only! |
| 14:59 | owen | Uh oh, no Amazon dev key system pref anymore? |
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| 15:00 | owen | AWSPrivateKey |
| 15:04 | Or is it just not listed? | |
| 15:04 | gmcharlt | owen: likely just not listed |
| 15:05 | note that admin/systempreferences was *not* removed, so it provides a gateway to more advanced or less common config settings | |
| 15:05 | owen | But the old method for adding a new system pref doesn't work anymore, correct? |
| 15:06 | gmcharlt | you can still add them, but they won't automatically show up in the new interface |
| 15:11 | chris_n | gmcharlt: don't they show up under "Local Use" or has that changed? |
| 15:14 | gmcharlt | chris_n: looking at it, it appears they should |
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| 16:08 | jwagner | owen++ for lots of bug fixes/reports today |
| 16:09 | owen | Cleaning house! |
| 16:09 | jwagner | Can you come over to my place??? |
| 16:09 | owen | :P |
| 16:16 | Using single-serving git branches + careful bug reporting = much better patch tracking | |
| 16:18 | slef | the word for the day is nyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh |
| 16:18 | :) | |
| 16:18 | jwagner | You're having one of those days too, huh? |
| 16:19 | slef | that, only more so |
| 16:19 | one of our members is offlined by broken network kit | |
| 16:19 | one of our clients is moving their servers and the first we knew was when our monitoring console lit up like a xmas tree | |
| 16:20 | sure there's other stuff too but my mind is blotting it out to save me going nuts | |
| 16:21 | jwagner | Ouch. Sounds painful :-( |
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| 16:26 | kf | jwagner: hi jwagner, have a little time? |
| 16:26 | little bit of time? cant think or speak English today | |
| 16:26 | jwagner | sure, I just may not have much brain to go with it.... |
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| 16:44 | owen | gmcharlt: If I submitted a patch that doesn't seem to have made it into HEAD by now is it safe to say I should resumbit it? |
| 16:44 | gmcharlt | no, just email me the link to it |
| 16:46 | owen | The link to the Bugzilla page? |
| 16:47 | schuster | can we have bug 3607 recatagorized from enhancement to an actual bug? |
| 16:48 | gmcharlt | owen: that or the mail archive link |
| 16:50 | schuster | I'm almost giddy over 3394... Did that make it into 3.2? |
| 16:50 | gmcharlt | @bug 3394 |
| 16:50 | munin` | gmcharlt: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3394 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, items batch edition |
| 16:50 | gmcharlt | yes |
| 16:51 | chris_n | @bug 3607 |
| 16:51 | munin` | chris_n: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3607 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, Lost item returned credit to borrower - but can't resolve credit |
| 16:52 | schuster | Just made my day... can't wait to play and test it. |
| 16:53 | Is there a way to safely clear logs that were turned on for circ/cataloging tracking? | |
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| 16:58 | schuster | I'm making a list of my favorite @ munin commands... |
| 16:58 | * jwagner | wonders if there's a way to mingle git blame with munin commands.... |
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| 17:01 | schuster | @wunder 75074 - now Friday will be a whole different wunder. |
| 17:01 | munin` | schuster: The current temperature in Brookview, Plano, Texas is 14.0�C (10:44 AM CST on January 27, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.53 in 999.9 hPa (Rising). |
| 17:03 | kf | ColinC: the King's Fund library opac looks really nice :) |
| 17:04 | owen | kf, what's the link? |
| 17:04 | kf | http://kingsfund.koha-ptfs.eu/ |
| 17:06 | ColinC | Yes. All their own work, we can't take any credit for it |
| 17:06 | jwagner | Stylesheet changes? |
| 17:07 | kf | I like the effect of the background pictues |
| 17:07 | ColinC | Yes, bringing it in line with their other web pages |
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| 17:08 | jwagner | I've putzed a little bit with some stylesheet changes through the syspref. (background color of toolbar, etc.)Someday I'm going to have to learn how to do a major change. If owen ever teaches a class, I'll be the first to sign up :-) |
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| 17:09 | ColinC | if Owen teaches a class there will be a stampede to sign up |
| 17:09 | kf | http://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/ |
| 17:09 | owen | It'd be fun to do a class that was a case-study on a particular customization job |
| 17:09 | kf | thats our most customized opac so far |
| 17:09 | jwagner | owen, I have some candidates :-) |
| 17:10 | kf, looks nice! | |
| 17:11 | kf | thx :) |
| 17:12 | magnus | ColinC: lookin' good! what's the "advanced features" link at top right? |
| 17:12 | ColinC | kf: It's a nice looking site |
| 17:13 | kf | I tried, but some things are still missing (text and pictueres on start page) |
| 17:13 | yes, I wondered about the advanced features too :) | |
| 17:15 | nengard | Woo Hoo!! pianohacker's new sys prefs module is in HEAD!! I love it!! |
| 17:15 | I have so much documenting to catch up with now that we have so many new commits | |
| 17:15 | ColinC | advanced features takes you to the user login page |
| 17:16 | they are looking to integrate some of their other searches there | |
| 17:16 | magnus | nengard: yours is a never ending task... :-) |
| 17:16 | nengard | magnus - i know it sounds crazy - but i kind of like it that way - always something to do :) |
| 17:17 | magnus | ColinC: i see, just curious... |
| 17:17 | nengard: we like it that way to - it means koha is moving in the right direction: forward ;-) | |
| 17:18 | ColinC | I think they want to give their registered users access to some electronic resources |
| 17:18 | nengard | the other thing i have to do now is test all of my bugs and close them |
| 17:18 | everyone - remember to do that so that we don't have a bunch of open bugs that are actually fixed | |
| 17:18 | magnus | ColinC: that's an interesting thought |
| 17:19 | ColinC: but would being logged in give access to the resources, or would it just display links to resources that are controlled by IP or something similar? | |
| 17:20 | Ropuch | `We're thinking about soemthing similar |
| 17:20 | I mean: electronic resources for LAN & logged users outside it | |
| 17:21 | ColinC | It would give access. Possibly to a seach the xxx docs |
| 17:21 | magnus | cool |
| 17:22 | jwagner | Having some functionality built into Koha that can check for user login & display links/pages accordingly would be useful, and the bones are already there -- you don't see the Place Hold link until you log in, for instance. |
| 17:23 | It would be nice to define that for other elements. | |
| 17:23 | kf | ok, time to go home - bye koha and a nice morning/day/evening :) |
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| 17:25 | jwagner | It would also be useful to have some kind of structure where sites could define what they wanted to appear on their masthead, for example, without customizing the masthead.inc file. A list of entries with links, that the inc file could run through & display based on login status if desired. |
| 17:25 | magnus | jwagner: any particular elements you are thinkng of? |
| 17:26 | jwagner | Coming from the Unicorn world, we had the ability to define gateway elements, like predefined searches, links to home page, links to subscription databases, etc. Depending on the settings in the gateway element, the link would show up without customizing the actual page file. |
| 17:28 | Right now in Koha, sites can put things in the OPACNav or block sysprefs, but they only show on the main page. To get a link to show on every page requires customizing the masthead.inc file. | |
| 17:29 | magnus | ah, i get your point |
| 17:29 | jwagner | Giving the individual library more control over the display, without the need to customize the code. |
| 17:30 | chris_n | jwagner: how about a syspref to override the default masthead with a user-supplied one? |
| 17:31 | jwagner | Maybe not all the masthead (no problem with keeping the search box, etc.) -- just a way to add links to it painlessly. |
| 17:31 | owen | There is a system pref for specifying a custom include folder |
| 17:31 | intranet_includes | |
| 17:31 | jwagner | owen, how would that work? Am clueless in that area :-) |
| 17:32 | owen | I've never tested it myself, but as I understand it you specify a custom directory there, and any include file you put there overrides the default one |
| 17:32 | jwagner | intranet_includes would be just staff client, correct? No equivalent for OPAC? |
| 17:32 | Ah, kind of like the Unicorn pages_custom directory tree. | |
| 17:32 | owen | Oh yeah.. Hm. |
| 17:33 | * owen | wonders what change the the intranet prompted that preference but not the same in the OPAC |
| 17:34 | jwagner | Would need to check the code, but I've run into a couple of sysprefs that control both staff & OPAC. Maybe this is one? |
| 17:35 | I might take a look at that, though. I've customized the masthead for a couple of sites, which is going to cause problems with upgrades. If I could copy off those custom versions & replace the default one, that would make life easier. | |
| 17:38 | But I think I'll go have lunch first.... | |
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| 17:41 | * owen | concludes that the intranet_includes preference is a recipe for disaster |
| 17:42 | jwagner_lunch | Why so? |
| 17:45 | owen | I don't know how it's *supposed* to work, but trying it out resulted in *no* includes working correctly |
| 17:53 | hdl_laptop | jwagner_lunch: owen we could also load custom js files to add custom links rather than changing templates. |
| 17:54 | chris_n | so what is the difference between that and using the 'themes/opacthemes' preference? |
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| 18:17 | jwagner | I've never tried the themes setting -- what does it do? |
| 18:20 | chris_n | jwanger: basically you duplicate everything from, say, koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog to koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/foo |
| 18:20 | then 'foo' will show up in the select list for 'opacthemes' | |
| 18:21 | where you can select it and that template set now applies | |
| 18:21 | the same is true for staff 'themes' | |
| 18:24 | jwagner | Sounds complicated. You have to duplicate everything, even if you only want to customize a few things? |
| 18:25 | chris_n | it is the best way currently if you want to do things like mess with masthead.inc |
| 18:25 | of course you can run over git and simply deal with merge conflicts by hand when they occur | |
| 18:26 | jwagner | That's what we've been doing -- maintain a branch with the customizations & deal with merge conflicts as needed. |
| 18:26 | If there's a better way, I'm all ears :-) | |
| 18:34 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: chris_n I have some errors in kohastructure.sql owed to creator_batch |
| 18:34 | ERROR 1064 (42000) at line 1027: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'USING BTREE, KEY `branch_fk_constraint` (`branch_code`), KEY `item_fk_constr' at line 9 | |
| 18:34 | nengard | owen around? |
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| 18:43 | chris_n | hdl_laptop: kohastructure.sql from HEAD loads fine here |
| 18:43 | hdl_laptop | chris_n : which mysql version ? |
| 18:44 | Ropuch | I have some issues when upgrading from 3.00.5 |
| 18:44 | hdl_laptop | chris_n it is all about USING BTREE |
| 18:44 | Ropuch: which ? | |
| 18:44 | chris_n | hdl_laptop: BTREE is not important here, you can remove it if that is the issue |
| 18:45 | mysql here is 5.1 | |
| 18:45 | hdl_laptop | I can... But I think it SHOULD be remove since that causes issues with mysql5.0 |
| 18:45 | and i have seen no information about change in mysql version required for Koha. | |
| 18:47 | chris_n | I agree... it was an unintentional mistake due to the fact that I'm running over 5.1 |
| 18:48 | hdl_laptop | chris_n I FULLY understand. |
| 18:49 | chris_n | I'm glad someone caught it |
| 18:49 | hdl_laptop | and it is why 3.2 will be ALPHA released soon. and not officially released :D |
| 18:49 | i am glad to have caught this. | |
| 18:49 | * chris_n | would like more people to beta the label and card creator :-) |
| 18:50 | finds it interesting that XP Home has an administrator account with no default password | |
| 18:51 | jwagner | XP Home had security holes you could drive a Mack Truck through, if I remember correctly. I run XP Pro with lots of other security on top. |
| 18:51 | (no, I have no plans to go to Windows 7 yet) | |
| 18:51 | Ropuch | hdl_laptop: http://koha.pastebin.com/m592d46e4 |
| 18:52 | chris_n | jwagner: this is on a student laptop... infected with various nasties.... I wonder why... ;-) |
| 18:53 | jwagner | Gee, I dunno.... One of my lifelong (well, at least 20+ years) dreams has been to get Bill Gates in a damp, dark cellar and have a little chat with him. |
| 18:53 | hdl_laptop | Ropuch you went to 3.2 and not 3.0.5 |
| 18:53 | hehe | |
| 18:54 | you should checkout branch 3.0.x and not master branch | |
| 18:55 | Ropuch | hdl_laptop: I as actually testing upgrading from 3.0.5 to master (if only budgets would upgrade without errors, i would switch to 3.2 in no time) |
| 18:56 | hdl_laptop | you spoke about 3.0.5 not 3.2 |
| 18:56 | Ropuch | I said "when upgrading _from_ 3.00.5" |
| 18:56 | Oh, nevermind, simple misurdenstanding [; | |
| 18:57 | *misunderstanding | |
| 18:58 | hdl_laptop | oh. those errors are quite understandable, since 3.2 got its own updatedatabase and there are duplicate fields |
| 19:00 | Ropuch | I managed to get rid of duplicates & synatx errors, but other things are beyond my perl/sql understanding |
| 19:01 | Gosh, another misspelled word | |
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| 19:04 | schuster | jwagner - what you and owen were discussing earlier about custom themes that is what we are doing here in plano with Elementary, Middle School, High School pac accounts |
| 19:04 | magnus_ | i get the USING BTREE error doing a fresh install from head, on mysql 5.0.51a-24+lenny2 |
| 19:04 | schuster | 106.catalog.pisd.edu - elementary 054.catalog.pisd.edu - Middle School - Owen did most of the setup for the templates and we just tweak as we go. |
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| 19:07 | jwagner | schuster, so you have replicated the opac-tmpl tree for each one? |
| 19:08 | owen | schuster's setup is called a "multi-opac" setup, and it's not done with alternate themes, only alternate CSS |
| 19:09 | jwagner | Oh, yea, I think we talked about this once before. That's easier to manage. I'm trying to visualize how the themes setup would work with upgrades -- do you have to upgrade each tree manually? |
| 19:09 | chris_n | magnus: you need to remove the USING BTREE directives from kohastructure.sql beginning about line 1027 or so |
| 19:09 | magnus_ too | |
| 19:09 | owen | Trying to maintain an alternate set of templates is a bitch. I've done, it; I don't recommend it. |
| 19:10 | magnus_ is now known as magnus | |
| 19:10 | magnus | thanks, chris_n |
| 19:10 | jwagner | How did you do the little tabs across the top? Separate .inc file & just add a call to it into the template? |
| 19:11 | owen | jwagner: It's all done with the opacheader system pref, but the alternate stylesheets show and hide different sections of the header |
| 19:11 | chris_n | magnus: I think hdl_laptop is formatting up a patch to remove those directives, so that should go away shortly |
| 19:12 | magnus | chris_n: sounds like a good idea ;-) |
| 19:12 | jwagner | owen, neat. So all the code for the little tabs, plus the labels & links, all goes in the syspref? |
| 19:12 | That actually would be a good approach to what I was talking about earlier -- a site-defined list of links to appear on every page. | |
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| 19:32 | magnus | i got rid of the BTREEs but now i get this: ERROR 1064 (42000) at line 1047: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'UNIQUE KEY `image_name_index` (`image_name`) ) ENGINE=InnoDB DEFAULT CHARSET=utf' at line 6 |
| 19:32 | 44 tables have been created | |
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| 19:35 | chris_n | magnus: the second schema load was on an empty database? |
| 19:35 | magnus | yep, i droped the whole database and then recreated it |
| 19:36 | dropped, even | |
| 19:37 | chris_n | check to be sure you still have a comma at the end of line 1051 |
| 19:38 | ie. PRIMARY KEY (`image_id`), | |
| 19:39 | magnus | chris_n: i think that was it. you rock! |
| 19:40 | * chris_n | breaths a sigh of relief :-) |
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| 19:47 | magnus | chris_n: yup, got all the way through the installer now, thanks for helping |
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| 19:48 | schuster | Question on holds - is there an easy way to get the select a specific copy button set as the default rather than first available? Or which template etc... would I have to edit to change that? |
| 19:49 | chris_n | magnus: np, always glad to help (especially when the hangup is in my code) ;-) |
| 19:50 | magnus | chris_n: and this time the error was mine - so you wasn't to blame at all... ;-) |
| 19:52 | thd | chris_n: Is chris_n2 there? |
| 19:53 | chris_n | heh, chris_n is present atm |
| 19:54 | thd | chris_n: are you chris_n2 at home or in some other context? |
| 19:54 | chris_n | at home |
| 19:54 | * chris_n | thinks one should be able to log into the channel with the same nick from multiple locations |
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| 19:55 | thd | you could log in with the same nick from multiple locations if you logged in to one remote system from more than one location |
| 19:56 | One option would be to use an IRC proxy such as bip | |
| 19:56 | chris_n | as in vpn and remote desktop? |
| 19:56 | or? | |
| 19:57 | magnus | thinks chris does something like that |
| 19:57 | * chris_n | betrays his lack of irc knowledge |
| 19:57 | thd | I like bip myself |
| 19:57 | chris_n | and bip is what sort of software/creature/foo? |
| 19:58 | thd | Unfortunately, my ISP does not provide good remote access to my home system running bip without business level service. |
| 19:58 | bip is an IRC proxy | |
| 19:58 | chris_n | ahh... I'll have to take a look sometime |
| 19:59 | magnus | http://bip.t1r.net/ ? |
| 19:59 | thd | There is an older IRC proxy but it has not had much development recently |
| 20:00 | I adopted bip because the project does not seem to be stagnant | |
| 20:01 | Ropuch | Screen + irssi is the best irc duet ever ;> |
| 20:02 | thd | At one time, the Debian package was missing the helpful configuration script. |
| 20:02 | Ropuch: you can use irssi or any other client with bip | |
| 20:03 | bip has much better logging facility than irsssi | |
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| 20:14 | chris_n | is 500$a not repeatable by the loc standard? |
| 20:15 | gmcharlt | use the source :) http://www.loc.gov/marc/biblio[…]oncise/bd500.html - 500 tag is repeatable, subfield $a within a 500 is not |
| 20:15 | chris_n | ahh... so NR means "Not Repeatable"... |
| 20:16 | * chris_n | was looking here: http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd500.html |
| 20:16 | gmcharlt | yep |
| 20:40 | thd | chris_n: repeat the field 500 instead of the subfield $a or find a better more purpose specific specific notes field instead of repeating the 500. |
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| 21:07 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: patches on updatedatabase done |
| 21:07 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: branch ready to pull? |
| 21:07 | hdl_laptop | still need some testing |
| 21:08 | I was some rebasing crap. | |
| 21:08 | I saw even. | |
| 21:27 | gmcharlt: seems that authorised_values link has been removed from master | |
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| 21:28 | gmcharlt | sigh - have you identified the offending commit? |
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| 21:33 | hdl_laptop | not yet |
| 21:34 | gmcharlt: Can you confirm members/notices.pl and members/messaging is the same ? | |
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| 21:37 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: about authorised values, it was just moving the link |
| 21:37 | not removing it | |
| 21:37 | so it is ok | |
| 21:37 | gmcharlt | members/notices.pl seems redundant, but you're the one who added it :) |
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| 21:40 | nod | re using same nick from different locations, using irssi in a screen session on a box somewhere works pretty well |
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| 23:07 | moodaepo | @wunder 56001 |
| 23:07 | munin` | moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is -12.1�C (5:00 PM CST on January 27, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -15.0�C. Windchill: -21.0�C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Rising). Wind Chill Advisory in effect from 9 PM this evening to 10 am CST Thursday... |
| 23:12 | chris_n2 | @wunder 28334 |
| 23:12 | munin` | chris_n2: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 7.0�C (6:02 PM EST on January 27, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Rising). |
| 23:12 | chris_n2 | looks like you'd better throw another log on the fire moodaepo |
| 23:15 | gmcharlt about? | |
| 23:16 | moodaepo | chris_n2: You betcha : ) |
| 23:16 | @wunder 93117 | |
| 23:16 | munin` | moodaepo: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 15.8�C (3:12 PM PST on January 27, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Steady). |
| 23:17 | moodaepo | Well it's nearly the usual...twice as worse as it's for brendan |
| 23:18 | * moodaepo | goes off to brave the wicked winds. |
| 23:20 | * chris_n2 | hopes moodaepo fares well |
| 23:21 | chris_n2 | it seems that the opac-detail.pl 'Subject(s)' links are malformed |
| 23:21 | ie. http://kohadev.localhost/cgi-b[…]earch.pl?q=su:Art | |
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| 23:22 | chris_n2 | should be http://kohadev.localhost/cgi-b[…]h.pl?idx=su&q=Art |
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| 23:29 | chris_n2 | bbl |
| 23:39 | gmcharlt | chris_n2: hi |
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