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| 00:03 | Nate | goodnight #koha |
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| 03:39 | Amit | heya chris, chris_n2, brendan |
| 03:39 | chris_n2 | ehlo Amit |
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| 04:19 | chobbs | Anyone awake? |
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| 04:20 | chris_n2 | nobody but us chickens |
| 04:21 | chobbs | Considering moving our K12 district off our commercial library system to Koha. Looking for war stories, insights, etc from those that have done it before. |
| 04:25 | Hmmm. Is there a better time for me to chat with other users? | |
| 04:29 | chris_n2 | chobbs: where are you located? |
| 04:30 | chobbs | California - obviously too late for most US folks :) |
| 04:31 | chris_n2 | chobbs: there are quite a few around who have migrated off of proprietary ILSs onto Koha |
| 04:31 | I'm sure they would be glad to tell you how it went | |
| 04:31 | chobbs | It's been about 7 years since I last looked at Koha - looks like it's matured a lot. |
| 04:31 | chris_n2 | you could post to the mailing list as well |
| 04:31 | yeah, we're gearing up for the 3.2 release | |
| 04:31 | chobbs | I'll try checking in during the regular (US) work day |
| 04:32 | chris_n2 | there are some major improvements in it |
| 04:32 | chobbs | You're one of the devs? |
| 04:32 | chris_n2 | yup |
| 04:32 | chobbs | Cool. |
| 04:33 | Downloaded Kyle Hall's vm and messing around with it a bit now. | |
| 04:34 | chris_n2 | chobbs: take a look through these list search results: http://old.nabble.com/forum/Se[…]uery=migrate+koha |
| 04:34 | I think there may be a few stories there | |
| 04:34 | chobbs | Great, thanks. |
| 04:34 | chris_n2 | a vm install is probably the quickest/easiest way to check things out |
| 04:34 | chobbs | Looks like that'll keep me busy reading for a bit. |
| 04:35 | chris_n2 | feel free to drop in any time here as well |
| 04:36 | there are more US folks on earlier in our day | |
| 04:44 | * chris_n2 | heads off to sleep |
| 04:44 | chobbs | thanks for the tips - later |
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| 06:50 | Ropuch | Morning #koha |
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| 09:34 | chipsy | hi uys |
| 09:37 | how long will it take cpan to install Net::Server cos mine ran for 24hrs but still at make test | |
| 09:39 | chilts | should be faster than 24hrs |
| 09:39 | probably about 23hrs 58mins faster | |
| 09:39 | try it again :) | |
| 09:42 | chipsy | is this a joke? |
| 09:45 | chris | 22:45 ~ $ time sudo cpan Net::Server |
| 09:45 | real0m23.097s | |
| 09:45 | user0m8.149s | |
| 09:45 | sys0m0.992s | |
| 09:45 | thats how long it took | |
| 09:45 | under 30 seconds | |
| 09:46 | RHANDOM/Net-Server-0.97.tar.gz | |
| 09:46 | /usr/bin/make install -j3 -- OK | |
| 09:46 | so if its taking more than a few minutes something is definetly wrong | |
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| 10:01 | magnus | <- the nick formerly known as magnusenger |
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| 10:15 | kf | hi #koha |
| 10:16 | imp | heyho kf |
| 10:16 | kf | hi imp |
| 10:42 | Ropuch | Hello kf, imp |
| 10:42 | imp | hi Ropuch |
| 10:43 | @wunder hannover germany | |
| 10:43 | munin | imp: The current temperature in Hannover, Germany is -6.0�C (11:20 AM CET on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Light Freezing Fog. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:44 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 10:44 | munin | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is -2.2�C (11:40 AM CET on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:50 | kf | oh, and hi Ropuch! |
| 10:51 | nicomo | hi all hi kf |
| 10:51 | @wunder lyon france | |
| 10:51 | munin | nicomo: The current temperature in Feyzin, Feyzin, France is -0.4�C (11:00 AM CET on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Snow. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.64 in 1003.6 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:51 | nicomo | and snowing |
| 10:51 | :-( | |
| 10:51 | kf | but warmer than in hannover and Konstanz ;) |
| 10:52 | hi nicomo | |
| 10:52 | nicomo | yes, warmer, but I'll still stay home :-) |
| 10:58 | imp | hehe |
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| 11:02 | greenmang0 | @wunder mumbai |
| 11:02 | munin | greenmang0: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 30.0�C (4:10 PM IST on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:02 | imp | Conditions: Smoke oO |
| 11:02 | greenmang0 | imp: yeah ;) |
| 11:03 | imp | smoke, like smog? |
| 11:27 | magnus | @wunder bodo, norway |
| 11:27 | munin | magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0�C (11:50 AM CET on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Snow Showers. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Windchill: -7.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
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| 11:28 | chipsy | hi u said make install -j3 --OK |
| 11:28 | but it still got hook at make test | |
| 11:29 | cos cpan try to install | |
| 11:37 | Amit | heya chipsy, kf, nicomo |
| 11:39 | kf | hi Amit |
| 11:45 | Amit | @wunder Bangalore India |
| 11:45 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 26.0�C (2:30 PM IST on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. |
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| 11:53 | greenmang0 | imp: dont' really know :) |
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| 12:28 | davi | Who proposed to use a Sun Java videoconference applet for the next Koha meeting? |
| 12:28 | It is a bad idea. | |
| 12:29 | Which one was proposed? Is there some URL? | |
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| 12:54 | chris_n | g'morning #koha |
| 12:54 | @wunder 28334 | |
| 12:54 | munin | chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 3.4�C (7:50 AM EST on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.50 in 998.9 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:54 | chris_n | heat wave :-) |
| 12:55 | kf | hi chris_n |
| 12:55 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 12:55 | munin | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is -2.2�C (1:50 PM CET on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.72 in 1006.3 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:55 | jwagner | @wunder 20740 |
| 12:55 | munin | jwagner: The current temperature in Hollywood, College Park, Maryland is -3.3�C (7:53 AM EST on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Rising). |
| 12:55 | chris_n | howdy kf and jwagner |
| 12:55 | jwagner | g'morning |
| 12:56 | chris_n | jwagner: did you all get that label search problem figured out? |
| 12:56 | jwagner | Haven't had a chance to try yet -- it's a little ways down the priority queue. |
| 12:56 | I'll let you know what happens. | |
| 12:56 | chris_n | great; yeah, I know about the priority queue :-P |
| 12:57 | just let me know if there's anything else I can throw a pair of eyes on for you | |
| 12:57 | jwagner | quote "I want it all and I want it NOW" -- sound familiar? |
| 12:58 | chris_n | yup |
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| 12:58 | chris_n | or even "I want it yesterday" |
| 12:58 | jwagner | Yep. Got some of them on the list too |
| 12:58 | chris_n | g'morning jdavidb |
| 12:58 | jdavidb | Happy Friday! woot! |
| 12:59 | kf | morning jdavidb and jwagner |
| 12:59 | jwagner | Guten tag kf |
| 13:06 | nengard | jdavidb - holy cow!!! I had no idea it was Friday!! |
| 13:06 | how sad is that!?? | |
| 13:06 | morning all! | |
| 13:07 | * jdavidb | hands nengard a big mug of hot cocoa. |
| 13:08 | jdavidb | I had that problem when I worked at home. 'specially since I tend to work at least a little bit seven days a week. Here, at least, there are the days I work where I don't go to the office, and the days I do. |
| 13:12 | nengard | yeah - that's pretty much it - I'm always working :) but I should still know it's Friday which means I get my hubby at home for 2 whole days :) heeh |
| 13:18 | seems that a lot of people are using MarcEdit with Koha - it's a shame it's not open source cause then maybe we could write some connectors or something to make it a little bit easier | |
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| 13:21 | Nate | Hello Everyone! |
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| 13:22 | * chris_n | seems to recall schuster suggesting that some sort of z3950 connection could be had between Koha and MarcEdit |
| 13:22 | chris_n | hi Nate |
| 13:22 | Nate | hi chris_n |
| 13:23 | chris_n | nicole: http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-Ca[…]ow-p27064660.html |
| 13:29 | nengard | chris_n - ooo - I need to pick his brain and get some documentation on that for others |
| 13:29 | hi Nate | |
| 13:30 | Nate | hi nengard! |
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| 13:30 | chris_n | speaking of schuster :-) |
| 13:30 | nengard | schuster did you know we were talking about you??? |
| 13:30 | hehe | |
| 13:30 | chris_n | hi david |
| 13:31 | nengard | let's catch schuster up |
| 13:31 | [08:18] <nengard> seems that a lot of people are using MarcEdit with Koha - it's a shame it's not open source cause then maybe we could write some connectors or something to make it a little bit easier | |
| 13:31 | [08:23] <chris_n> nicole: http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-Ca[…]ow-p27064660.html | |
| 13:31 | [08:29] <nengard> chris_n - ooo - I need to pick his brain and get some documentation on that for others | |
| 13:31 | So - schuster - got any documentation you can share??? | |
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| 13:31 | jdavidb | poor schuster. Walks in the door, and gets waylaid. |
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| 13:32 | jwagner | give him time to get some caffiene, why don'tcha??? |
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| 13:34 | schuster | Hey... |
| 13:35 | Let me check on a couple of things... My presentation last year had some documentation with it.. take a look at this for starters | |
| 13:35 | http://wiki.koha.org/lib/exe/f[…]ceditschuster.pdf | |
| 13:37 | nengard | thanks |
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| 13:37 | nengard | jwagner - no caffine :) if you logged in without it then be ready to be nagged by the documentation manager :) hehe |
| 13:38 | schuster | hmmm that's not opening for me this morning or it's really big. Let me dig some more and I'll send you some stuff. I need to do some further testing with it on the upload aspect does it really index etc... |
| 13:38 | nengard | schuster it opened for me and it's great |
| 13:38 | jwagner | nengard, you're such a bully :-( |
| 13:39 | nengard | aww :( |
| 13:39 | jwagner | it locked up for me. |
| 13:39 | schuster | I was able to pull stuff out of my database at the conference and show how it worked a little. Terry has a new version out this month and it is supposed to be more linyx friendly. |
| 13:39 | nengard | schuster I think you were speaking at the same time as me so I missed your talk |
| 13:39 | schuster | Ah that would probably be accurate as you were a very busy person! |
| 13:40 | nengard - are you going to be at ALA? | |
| 13:40 | nengard | ALA yes - ALA midwinter no |
| 13:41 | I'm speaking at ALA, PLA and SLA this year | |
| 13:41 | hitting all of the biggies ;) | |
| 13:43 | chris_n | schuster: did you get your PDF::API2 problem worked out? |
| 13:43 | schuster | No I went to bed after posting my plea. - and as you can see I just got to the office and barely finished a quarter of my first cup of coffee... |
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| 13:44 | schuster | I was just going to say nengard realized it's Friday and how much she wanted to accomplish this week ;) |
| 13:44 | I'm that way myself I have several todos that need to get DONE today. | |
| 13:44 | * chris_n | is not one to come between a person and his/her coffee :-) |
| 13:44 | nengard | :) |
| 13:45 | as someone who doesn't do coffee - I don't get the importance :) | |
| 13:46 | schuster | @wunder 75074 |
| 13:46 | chris_n | s/coffee/whatever-gets-you-going-first-thing-in-the-morning/g |
| 13:46 | munin | schuster: The current temperature in Brookview, Plano, Texas is -9.3�C (7:29 AM CST on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: -19.0�C. Windchill: -9.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Rising). Wind Chill Advisory in effect until 10 am CST this morning... |
| 13:46 | nengard | chris_n -- waking up gets me going ... that's it :) |
| 13:46 | chris_n | lol |
| 13:46 | schuster | we texas folk are COLD... i know it might not mean much to you all, but man I've been out of Minnesota for awhile! |
| 13:46 | nengard | hehe |
| 13:47 | they say that the artic chill should be out of your area next week and in ours | |
| 13:47 | so hang in there, it's almost over | |
| 13:48 | well - going to grab some breakfast - be right back | |
| 13:51 | jwagner | Got a bibloading puzzler for you. One of my sites says that occasionally a MARC import (file downloaded from OCLC Connexion) strips off the 6xx fields. So far I don't have an actual data file from one of those uploads, just a file of records reassembled after the fact. It loads fine & all the 6xx fields are there. |
| 13:52 | I can't think of any circumstance in which Koha would strip 6xx fields from an import. Has anyone else ever seen it? | |
| 13:53 | schuster | chris_n - when I do the make clean in that directory I got a make *** No rule to make target 'clean'. Stop. |
| 13:54 | jdavidb | @wunder 20852 |
| 13:54 | munin | jdavidb: The current temperature in Flower Valley, Rockville, Maryland is -2.7�C (8:43 AM EST on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1000.9 hPa (Falling). |
| 13:54 | chris_n | schuster: np, go ahead and do 'perl Makefile.PL' |
| 13:55 | then 'make' | |
| 13:55 | and 'make test' | |
| 13:55 | schuster | jwagner - is that site stripping based on indicator so that they don't get any non LC type headings? |
| 13:56 | jwagner | Not that I know of -- nothing on the Koha end, anyway. They're using a combined match rule I set up but otherwise it's pretty vanilla. |
| 13:56 | schuster | Thanks chris_n that worked now on to try and fix the otherone the same way.. |
| 13:56 | chris_n | schuster: don't forget to 'make install'... :) |
| 14:00 | schuster | OK so the XML::LibXSLT 1.59 error with the same type of output what file name would I be looking for to attempt the same thing? |
| 14:01 | chris_n | check /root/.cpan/build for a subdir with XML-LibXSLT in the name |
| 14:02 | cd into that one and do 'perl Makefile.PL' et al | |
| 14:08 | brendan | morning all |
| 14:08 | chris_n | heya brendan |
| 14:08 | brendan | look's like I've got a little bit of "scroll-back" to go through this morning. :) |
| 14:11 | schuster | ok so the well phoey - I'm getting cant find -lgdbm and can't put that computer on the network so will have to wait until I get home over the weekend to attempt to fix that piece. |
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| 14:13 | schuster | Looking back over my notes it says to do the /kohaclone/misc/sax_parser_print.pl and you should see XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser=HASH(0x81fe220) |
| 14:13 | chris_n | schuster: be sure to install the dev libraries for libgdbm |
| 14:14 | schuster | if you don't it says looks bad check Install documentation - well I end up with XML::SAX::Expat=HASH(0xa0b1588) |
| 14:14 | chris_n | libgdbm-dev |
| 14:14 | schuster | that is just a sudo apt-get libgdbm-dev correct? |
| 14:14 | chris_n | right |
| 14:15 | schuster | This sax parser thing always gets me in trouble... |
| 14:15 | chris_n | the other is the default parser "problem" |
| 14:16 | schuster | so if I get the XML-LibXSLT piece fixed are you saying it will fix the sax parser error? |
| 14:16 | chris_n | not necessarily |
| 14:17 | there is an ini file somewhere that sets that up iirc | |
| 14:19 | schuster: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]tchpad#sax_parser | |
| 14:19 | schuster | Ah yes found the ini file so I just comment out the lines I don't want? |
| 14:19 | YEAH that fixed that!!! | |
| 14:20 | pastebot | "chris_n" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "ParserDetails.ini" (7 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/105 |
| 14:20 | chris_n | schuster: ^^ |
| 14:20 | there's mine | |
| 14:20 | fwiw | |
| 14:21 | schuster | Ok now I have a couple of other questions for the group... How can you tell if Pazpar is setup on an existing system? |
| 14:21 | * chris_n | is in the dark on that one |
| 14:23 | schuster | I also like the idea of the Memoize - but it requires a ??? server??? is there information someplace about that in setting one up or??? What are others doing about it? |
| 14:27 | OK hopefully getting that libgdm-dev installed this weekend will fix my problem. Thanks again chris_n... I owe you... | |
| 14:28 | chris_n | schuster: Memoize can be run on the same server as Koha afaik |
| 14:29 | that is chris c's baby | |
| 14:29 | so you might question him about getting it set up | |
| 14:29 | schuster | yeah I've seen that in the IRC hmmm... have to chat with him later about it. |
| 14:29 | chris_n | it sounds very cool, though and will allow some neat things to be done which cannot atm |
| 14:30 | schuster | yeah that's what has me wondering about a couple of things based on what I have read so far. |
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| 16:23 | * chris_n | makes the final large push of patron card creator code to his public repo |
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| 16:24 | nengard | chris_n woo hoo |
| 16:25 | chris_n | and invites all comers to test it :-) |
| 16:26 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
| 16:26 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 10.3�C (8:21 AM PST on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Rising). |
| 16:26 | brendan | chris_n - do you have that available to look at yet? |
| 16:28 | chris_n | not on a publicly available test server; only in my github repo |
| 16:28 | git://github.com/cnighswonger/koha-wip.git | |
| 16:28 | brendan | ah ok thanks :) |
| 16:29 | nengard | chris_n - now we just need some docs :) |
| 16:29 | chris_n | still one or two cosmetic things to be done, but it is pretty much as it will be |
| 16:30 | except for the docs, that is ;-) | |
| 16:30 | nengard: I have to figure out how it works first :-D | |
| 16:30 | nengard | oh don't tell us that |
| 16:30 | you wrote something and don't know how it works?? :) | |
| 16:31 | brendan | heh |
| 16:31 | * chris_n | feels like he just finished up a text only version of gimp :-P |
| 16:39 | Ropuch | libasciiart gimp |
| 16:39 | Reminds me watching movie on mplayer with -vo ascii ;> | |
| 16:39 | brendan | should call it timp |
| 16:41 | imp | how about libcaca? (cac.zoy.org, but it seams to be down right now :/) |
| 16:41 | Ropuch | ;> |
| 16:41 | imp | sorry, caca.zoy.org |
| 16:41 | Ropuch | I've never played with libcaca |
| 16:42 | imp | same here, but it's on my todolist :) |
| 16:42 | Ropuch | Just aalib - been there, done that, got a tshirt |
| 16:43 | http://liquidweather.net/howto/index.php?id=74 | |
| 16:43 | Seems pretty easy | |
| 16:44 | imp | aalib on the first half of the page and libcaca on the rest :D |
| 16:49 | chris_n | wow, just what I wanted to do with my spare time ;-) |
| 16:51 | Ropuch | hehe |
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| 17:22 | chris_n | lunchtime |
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| 19:41 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
| 19:41 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 17.9�C (11:37 AM PST on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Falling). |
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| 19:44 | chris_n | brendan: one other note; if you decide to test the card creator you'll need to grab a modified copy of PDF::Reuse from here: git://github.com/cnighswonger/PDF-Reuse-0.35.git |
| 19:45 | the maintainer has accepted the changes, but has yet to role a new release | |
| 19:45 | brendan | ok - thanks |
| 19:45 | @seen paul_p | |
| 19:45 | munin | brendan: paul_p was last seen in #koha 1 day, 9 hours, 58 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: * paul_p head to train station. See you next monday ! |
| 19:45 | brendan | @later tell paul_p Happy Birthday on Jan 9! Enjoy |
| 19:45 | munin | brendan: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:03 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
| 20:03 | munin | chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 1.3�C (2:58 PM EST on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 17%. Dew Point: -21.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1001.9 hPa (Rising). |
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| 21:14 | schuster | brendan here? |
| 21:14 | brendan | I am |
| 21:14 | hi schuster | |
| 21:14 | schuster | Just tied calling you. |
| 21:14 | tried. | |
| 21:14 | brendan | ok I'll try and give you a call |
| 22:13 | @wunder 93117 | |
| 22:13 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 19.5�C (2:07 PM PST on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:13 | moodaepo | @wunder 56001 |
| 22:13 | munin | moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is -19.1�C (4:08 PM CST on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -22.0�C. Windchill: -27.0�C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033.1 hPa (Rising). Wind Chill Advisory in effect until midnight CST tonight... |
| 22:13 | brendan | ok chris - my highwater mark for today is 19.5 - let's see if you can beat that |
| 22:13 | oh wow moodaepo | |
| 22:13 | delete the minus sign and you'd be here | |
| 22:14 | moodaepo | : ) Yea I'm just a watcher ok Koha but for my weather announcements! |
| 22:14 | brendan | excellent |
| 22:14 | moodaepo | brendan: Yea that's why I seem to be attracted to looking at the weather here every time you do. |
| 22:14 | brendan | heh |
| 22:16 | schuster | @wunder 75074 |
| 22:16 | munin | schuster: The current temperature in Brookview, Plano, Texas is -1.9�C (3:59 PM CST on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: -16.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1010.7 hPa (Falling). |
| 22:17 | schuster | as I get ready to wonder outside to go home for the weekend! I see in Minnesota they don't even calculate Windchill anymore! HA! |
| 22:19 | by everyone | |
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| 22:52 | brendan_ is now known as brendan | |
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