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| 03:50 | Amit | heya brendan, chris |
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| 04:55 | greenmang0 | @wunder mumbai |
| 04:55 | munin | greenmang0: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 25.0�C (9:40 AM IST on December 29, 2009). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
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| 08:20 | Amit | heya nicomo |
| 08:20 | nicomo | hello Amit |
| 08:20 | hello all | |
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| 10:36 | Peach | Hi all. |
| 10:40 | I'll just leave a message here. I need some help. Our koha setup was working fine until yesterday. There's a strange behavior. We imported items into koha then we search for them. The search results show items in the reservoir instead of the catalog. I checked the database and all items got in the correct tables. | |
| 10:42 | Any ideas are appreciated. Thanks. Will check back later. | |
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| 11:20 | zico | hi... |
| 11:20 | i need to delete some duplicate item records | |
| 11:21 | when.. i delete one... another one goes too | |
| 11:21 | :( | |
| 11:27 | i need to get rid of this situation | |
| 11:27 | because.. i have more than 100 duplicate records | |
| 11:28 | and.. i need to delete those duplicate items... but.. cannot do it because of this problem | |
| 11:35 | why this is happening?? | |
| 11:35 | if i delete one item record.. another duplicate one is gone too!!! | |
| 11:50 | Amit | @wunder New Delhi, india |
| 11:50 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 19.0�C (5:00 PM IST on December 29, 2009). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:50 | Amit | @wunder Dehradun |
| 11:50 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 20.0�C (2:30 PM IST on December 29, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa. |
| 11:50 | Amit | @wunder Bangalore |
| 11:50 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 26.0�C (2:30 PM IST on December 29, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. |
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| 13:57 | jwagner | @wunder 20740 |
| 13:57 | munin | jwagner: The current temperature in Hollywood, College Park, Maryland is -1.7�C (8:55 AM EST on December 29, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: -12.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa (Rising). Wind Advisory in effect until 6 PM EST this evening... |
| 13:58 | owen | @wunder 45701 |
| 13:58 | munin | owen: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is -4.4�C (8:47 AM EST on December 29, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: -12.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 30.40 in 1029.3 hPa (Rising). |
| 14:00 | owen | Are there instructions on the wiki for how to generate a set of templates from a translation? |
| 14:03 | hilongo | how to generate templates files from a translated po file? |
| 14:04 | owen | Yes |
| 14:06 | hilongo | I made a mini tutorial ... but way back for ver 2.x ... |
| 14:07 | maybe it's still usefull | |
| 14:07 | owen | I don't think so |
| 14:07 | hilongo | http://www.kohadocs.org/KOHAtr[…]/translation.html |
| 14:07 | owen | Oh, that was what I was just looking at |
| 14:07 | * owen | checks it again |
| 14:10 | owen | I get "Charset in/out: UTF-8 at ./tmpl_process3.pl line 257. Unknown action specified." |
| 14:10 | Oh hang on, typo | |
| 14:15 | Yeah, it looks like it did work! | |
| 14:15 | Thanks hilongo | |
| 14:17 | hilongo | you're welcome owen :) |
| 14:27 | nengard | should i put that tutorial in the new manual? |
| 14:35 | owen | nengard: I thought kohadocs.org was generally out of date, so if those instructions *are* up-to-date for 3.x they should be copied to the manual or the wiki or both |
| 14:35 | nengard | owen - did you use them? did they work? if so they're up to date and I will put them in the current manual :) |
| 14:46 | that was a serious question - not me being sarcastic - did I read right? you just used these instructions? and was the typo yours or in the doc? | |
| 14:54 | hilongo | there a more up to date instruction in the wiki ... but they are in spanish only :( |
| 14:54 | nengard | hmmmm - |
| 14:54 | well, we'll have a spanish version of the manual eventually :) hehe | |
| 14:55 | owen | nengard: The only part of those instructions I used were the input examples under part 4 |
| 14:55 | nengard | hmm - guess I'll hold off on it |
| 14:55 | hilongo | I can translate... but not until next year :P |
| 14:56 | nengard | hehe - that works for me ;) you can send it to me whenever and I'll be sure to credit you as the translator |
| 14:56 | owen | nengard: We'll have a spanish version of the manual eventually because Plone makes it so easy to translate stuff. :P |
| 14:56 | hilongo | oki |
| 14:56 | nengard | owen - not plone |
| 14:56 | i don't use plone | |
| 14:56 | i'm doing it in xml and it's in git | |
| 14:56 | it will be on the web as soon as we have a new web home | |
| 14:56 | owen | Sorry, I *was* being sarcastic ;) |
| 14:57 | nengard | http://git.biblibre.com/cgi-bi[…]ohadocs;a=summary |
| 14:57 | hilongo | hehe :) |
| 14:57 | nengard | hehe - yeah - and i was backing up that sarcasm with my agreement that plone wasn't the right answer - not what i thought it would be |
| 14:58 | owen | nengard: Have you worked out any of the issues you were having with the html-generation process? |
| 14:58 | nengard | i have to work on the XSLT -- which I havne't done yet |
| 14:58 | and then I need help with the CSS to make it all look prettier | |
| 14:58 | :) | |
| 14:58 | but i don't care so much about it's appearance if it's up and readable and printable that's a start | |
| 14:59 | which reminds me i should go check out the xslt file | |
| 14:59 | * owen | is working on the CSS for the language footer in the OPAC this morning, hence the need for some installed translations |
| 15:01 | nengard | ahhhh |
| 15:01 | while on the footer you might want to look at my newish footer bug as well | |
| 15:01 | owen | Yup, that's the plan |
| 15:01 | nengard | i unfortunatly have to do this: http://www.sagehill.net/docboo[…]ustomizationLayer i think |
| 15:02 | * owen | 's eyes glaze over... |
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| 15:19 | nengard | yeah owen - mine too!! |
| 15:39 | owen | Did the OPAC's language footer used to be "sticky," sticking to the bottom of the page? Or am I remembering something I tried but rejected? |
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| 15:50 | owen | Hey, when did Howard County dump Koha? |
| 15:51 | jwagner | ? they did? |
| 15:51 | hilongo | Yes ... it used to be sticky |
| 15:51 | owen | jwagner: They've got aquabrowser + SirsiDynix now |
| 15:53 | libwebcats still says Koha/Liblime: http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]lwc&RC=1544&Row=5 | |
| 15:53 | But if you search from their home page you get: http://aquabrowser.hclibrary.org/?q=cryptonomicon | |
| 15:54 | rhcl | How can you tell they are Sirsi? |
| 15:55 | The layout of search results does remind me of Unicorn. | |
| 15:57 | owen | If you click to request a title you get taken to a page like this: http://hip.hclibrary.org/uPort[…]eload_layout=true |
| 15:57 | (nice URL guys) | |
| 15:58 | rhcl | yep |
| 15:59 | jwagner | The last I heard on Howard County, which was a long time ago now, they still weren't live on Koha. Maybe that's still the case? |
| 15:59 | owen | Wow nengard, a response from a LibLimer to one your bugzilla nags |
| 15:59 | nengard | huh? what? really? |
| 16:00 | ahh - bev - yes she's still involved as much as she can be | |
| 16:03 | jwagner yeah i think that's the case - still not live ... | |
| 16:05 | owen | A three-year migration process? Is that more typical than I think? |
| 16:06 | jwagner | I seem to remember they were doing a LOT of custom work. Maybe that's the holdup? |
| 16:08 | chris | im pretty sure howard county have dumped liblime |
| 16:11 | and in turn, koha | |
| 16:11 | nengard | :( |
| 16:12 | shame that that has to be the stroy | |
| 16:12 | or story | |
| 16:13 | chris | polaris was the whisper i heard |
| 16:14 | so they never actually made it to koha | |
| 16:16 | owen | What a shame. It would be fascinating to know what failures of Koha itself led to that decision. |
| 16:17 | chris | i think a lot of balls in play, a new director who doesnt like/understand opensource, plus dissatisfaction with LL ... like you say 3 years is a long time |
| 16:18 | my fear is LL tarnishing Koha | |
| 16:18 | which if you read things like katrin kopf's thesis .. and comments around the web is a real danger | |
| 16:19 | bad support by one company, rubs off on the rest of us | |
| 16:19 | owen | It would be a shame to find that the explosion of Koha use spurred by Liblime was actually causing a backlash that will set Koha back |
| 16:19 | chris | that would be a real shame yes |
| 16:26 | ok, pain killers kicking in, back to sleep i go | |
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| 16:58 | owen | I wonder if Bug 3765 is a Frenchism? |
| 16:58 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3765 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengardgmail.com, NEW, Road Types on Patron Record Confusing |
| 16:58 | nengard | putting the road type first? |
| 16:58 | hmmm ... hope not - cause I patched it :) | |
| 16:59 | owen | Right: "7 rue de Nesle" |
| 16:59 | number, street, street name | |
| 16:59 | nengard | good |
| 16:59 | so it did need patching | |
| 17:01 | owen | Is it related to Bug 3349? |
| 17:01 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3349 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, jeanandre.santonibiblibre.com, ASSIGNED, display of address truncated |
| 17:02 | nengard | yes, but i patched that too |
| 17:02 | on a diff bug - off to find that bug number so i can link the two together | |
| 17:03 | owen - i think i cleared it up and closed the right things | |
| 17:03 | let me know if you find others | |
| 17:05 | hmmm - not fixed ... wierd - okay i need to poke some more | |
| 17:06 | owen - do you know why each of the tabs on the left of the patron record has a different version of the patron address above it - shouldn't they all be the same include? | |
| 17:09 | owen | I think it's two includes: circ-menu.inc and member-menu.inc |
| 17:10 | nengard | hmmm |
| 17:10 | off to check them both out | |
| 17:11 | owen | We may have had two because not all pages provided the same data to all templates |
| 17:15 | nengard | owen - i only see the two you mentioned, and yet all of my pages are displaying different info -which i think means it's in the *.pl - so now i need to check them all |
| 17:15 | bleh - | |
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| 17:30 | nengard | all but 3 fixed |
| 17:35 | anyone on who knows perl? | |
| 17:35 | I can solve all but 3 of the files cause these three do things diff from the others | |
| 17:36 | owen | I don't know perl, but I'm curious what you're looking at |
| 17:37 | nengard | okay - so here are the files: members/notices.pl is not showing the address right on the left side |
| 17:37 | and members/moremember.pl is -- but only after my file edits | |
| 17:37 | but in the two files you'll see how the patron info is pulled into the template differently - which is why i'm stuck | |
| 17:41 | owen - sent in a patch | |
| 17:41 | so you can see what i changed | |
| 17:48 | owen | nengard: That patch doesn't apply for me. |
| 17:48 | nengard | oh geeze |
| 17:48 | why the heck not!!!! | |
| 17:51 | owen | does it depend on the first patch you attached to Bug 3765? |
| 17:51 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3765 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengardgmail.com, NEW, Road Types and Street Numbers on Patron Rec Inconsistent |
| 17:51 | nengard | owen - probably - i changed the same files - some of the same files again |
| 17:52 | owen | Those two applied fine in sequence. |
| 17:54 | nengard: I think this street number + road type issue is a red herring for American libraries. I think it's relevant only to French libraries. | |
| 17:55 | If you move the road type display to the end of the address, you're mangling the construction from the point of view of the French users (I think) | |
| 17:55 | nengard | owen - yeah cause most us libraries don't use all three fields, but still it should work |
| 17:55 | wait - i thought you said I did it right .... | |
| 17:56 | owen | In "7 rue de Nesle" "rue" is the road type. |
| 17:56 | nengard | hmmmmm |
| 17:56 | and grrrr | |
| 17:56 | cause i do know us libraries using the road type field | |
| 17:56 | as an authorized value | |
| 17:57 | so - now what the heck do we do? | |
| 17:57 | owen | And they just live with the fact that addresses display strangely? |
| 17:59 | nengard | i guess ... but maybe a sys pref - i know it's an ugly word -but a pref to say what field goes where -- |
| 18:01 | owen | That's one of the problems with a construction like this being in the Perl code and not the template: my $address = $borrower->{'streetnumber'}.' '.$roadttype_hashref->{$borrower->{'streettype'}}.' '.$borrower->{'address'}; |
| 18:01 | Now that string is hard-coded, and you can't rearrange it in the template based on TMPL_IFs | |
| 18:01 | nengard | so - you recommend us putting it in the template instead? cause that can be done |
| 18:02 | I know how to edit the PL files to do that | |
| 18:02 | owen | At this point it would just be a best-practice thing. Without some kind of system for switching the layouts (like a sys pref) doing so wouldn't solve the problem. |
| 18:03 | nengard | I'm going to update the bug report and ask for my patches to be ignored |
| 18:07 | owen | It's frustrating, because to an American audience at least, the road types serve no purpose, and separating out the street number serves no purpose. |
| 18:07 | nengard | now - can someone remind me how to un-apply patches? so I can get my files back to the way they were before all of my edits? |
| 18:08 | owen | Do you want to reset your branch to HEAD, or back to a previous commit? |
| 18:08 | nengard | owen - I think that this comes into play with the enhancement request to allow us to pick what patron fields show ... and i want to revert 2 specific patches - but not go back to HEAD |
| 18:09 | and where is everyone else? are we the only two working today?? :) hehe | |
| 18:09 | owen | Oh no it's Sunday and we forgot!!! |
| 18:09 | nengard | LOL |
| 18:11 | owen | nengard: If you do "git log" you'll see a list of the last commits (type "q" to stop displaying further pages) |
| 18:12 | nengard | k - i found the two i want to revert |
| 18:12 | what do i type to do that? | |
| 18:12 | owen | Look for the commit you want to revert back to. It'll be identified like this "commit f0132aeb715b068651b0ecce90921599a88ca50d" |
| 18:13 | Then you can: | |
| 18:13 | nengard | okay - here's the prob |
| 18:13 | owen | git reset --hard f0132aeb715b068651b0ecce90921599a88ca50d |
| 18:13 | nengard | yeah - you know what - i'll do that |
| 18:13 | now - another question - how are you applying patches? | |
| 18:14 | sorry - patches written by others | |
| 18:14 | owen | I only apply a patch from others if I need to test it, or if I need to have it applied in order to work on something else |
| 18:15 | So I always create a separate branch for it | |
| 18:16 | nengard | k - but how do you get a patch that hasn't been committed? I know how to do a new branch and pull from git - but not how to grab a patch that hasn't been committed and apply it |
| 18:16 | owen | If there's not a bug report with a patch attached, I just save the plain text of the email to the patches list |
| 18:17 | So in GMail I use the "Show original" menu option | |
| 18:17 | ...and then just save that page. | |
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| 19:14 | nelsonf | Hello everyone, I'm having trouble with e-mail notices via the trigger for ODUE. Anybody have a minute for specifics? |
| 19:35 | owen-away | nelsonf: Not only is there hardly anyone here today, there's no one new since yesterday |
| 19:35 | owen-away is now known as owen | |
| 19:57 | nelsonf | I was here yesterday morning, I think maybe you were around then... |
| 19:58 | Do you have any time for helping me troubleshoot the e-mail notifcations? | |
| 19:58 | owen | I don't have any experience with it, so my help would be of no use |
| 19:59 | nelsonf | Okay, thanks anyway! |
| 20:20 | wizzyrea | nelsonf: did you try posting your query to the users list? |
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| 20:21 | wizzyrea | lots of capable admins there, and they are more likely to check their mail than be here |
| 20:21 | at least this week. | |
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| 20:21 | nelsonf | Funny you should ask |
| 20:22 | I'm searching the list as we speak to see whether others have had similar issues | |
| 20:23 | No, I haven't posted there. I'll have to give it a go... thanks | |
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| 22:12 | nelsonf | adios all |
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| 23:19 | schuster | only 27 idlers must be the holidays! |
| 23:20 | anybody running Kyle Halls VM on windows? I think Owen was, but missed him today. | |
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