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| 00:18 | brendan | afternoon #koha |
| 00:18 | @wunder 93117 | |
| 00:18 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 15.6�C (4:11 PM PST on December 16, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Steady). |
| 00:18 | brendan | @wunder 99307 |
| 00:18 | munin | brendan: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 00:18 | brendan | @wunder 99305 |
| 00:18 | munin | brendan: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 00:18 | brendan | @wunder North Pole, Alaska |
| 00:18 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Tombur Subdivision, North Pole, Alaska is -21.1�C (3:16 PM AKST on December 16, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -23.0�C. Windchill: -21.0�C. Pressure: 29.23 in 989.7 hPa (Falling). |
| 01:22 | brendan | cya #koha |
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| 03:29 | Amit | hi brendan, chris |
| 03:29 | brendan | good morning Amit (evening here) |
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| 06:00 | brendan | night #koha |
| 06:02 | anotheruser | night |
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| 06:27 | CGI351 | I have installed koha-3.00.04_fixed on debian-lenny, succefully |
| 06:27 | 09:24 but z39.50 is not working, It show 'Results Connection failed to z3950.loc.gov nothing found. Try another search' | |
| 06:27 | I have installed koha-3.00.04_fixed on debian-lenny, succefully,but z39.50 is not working, It show 'Results Connection failed to z3950.loc.gov nothing found. Try another search' | |
| 06:28 | how can I solve this problem | |
| 06:32 | chris | looks to me like a firewall is blocking your connection out |
| 06:35 | CGI351 | ?? |
| 06:43 | chris | if it saying connection failed, it means the koha server can't connect to z3950.loc.gov |
| 06:43 | which is usually caused by a firewalling blocking the port it is trying to connect on | |
| 06:45 | CGI351 | Im on debian-lenny |
| 06:45 | so wht should i do ?? | |
| 06:47 | chris | at your commandline |
| 06:47 | type | |
| 06:47 | telnet z3950.loc.gov 7090 | |
| 06:47 | does it say connected | |
| 06:49 | CGI351 | I t say 'Trying 140.147.249.38... |
| 06:49 | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: connection refused | |
| 06:50 | chris | yep, its not a koha problem then |
| 06:50 | something is blocking your connection | |
| 06:50 | CGI351 | mean? |
| 06:50 | chris | mean its not koha |
| 06:51 | you will need to talk to your network administrator | |
| 06:51 | or ISP | |
| 06:51 | CGI351 | what problem it may be? |
| 06:51 | with network or ISP? Im on proxy | |
| 06:53 | Ropuch | Morning #koha |
| 06:55 | chris | i dont know, i dont know your network setup |
| 06:56 | but there is definitely something blocking port 7090 outbound from your machine | |
| 06:56 | its not something anyone here can fix | |
| 06:56 | you need to talk to whoever configures your network | |
| 06:58 | CGI351 | ok |
| 06:59 | Amit | heya Ropuch |
| 07:01 | Ropuch | Hi Amit |
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| 08:09 | Amit | heya nicomo |
| 08:09 | nicomo | heya Amit how are you? |
| 08:10 | Amit | nicomo: I am fine what abou u? |
| 08:10 | nicomo | I'm find, but cold this morning |
| 08:10 | @wunder lyon france | |
| 08:10 | munin | nicomo: The current temperature in Lyon, France is -2.0�C (9:00 AM CET on December 17, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:10 | nicomo | brrr |
| 08:11 | imp | @wunder hannover germany |
| 08:11 | munin | imp: The current temperature in Hannover, Germany is -5.0�C (9:00 AM CET on December 17, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1010 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:11 | Ropuch | @wunder Wroclaw |
| 08:11 | munin | Ropuch: The current temperature in Wroclaw, Poland is -8.0�C (9:00 AM CET on December 17, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -11.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:11 | nicomo | omg |
| 08:11 | Ropuch | Incorrect |
| 08:11 | My mother just called - she spotted -11 ;> | |
| 08:11 | But i think we're under -5 here | |
| 08:11 | I'm gonna check | |
| 08:11 | :) | |
| 08:12 | paul_p | @wunder marseille, France |
| 08:12 | munin | paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 0.0�C (9:00 AM CET on December 17, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: -7.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:12 | paul_p | very cold on my bike this morning too... |
| 08:13 | (an electric bike. a really GREAT way of moving in a city !!!!) | |
| 08:13 | Amit | heya paul_p |
| 08:13 | nicomo | Amit: what's your city? |
| 08:14 | Amit | @wunder Bangalore india |
| 08:14 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 20.0�C (11:30 AM IST on December 17, 2009). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. |
| 08:14 | Amit | nicomo: my city bangalore |
| 08:14 | nicomo | aaaahh, except for the drizzle, the temperature is just fine |
| 08:14 | Amit | hmm |
| 08:14 | nicomo | I have a friend who's in papeete right now |
| 08:15 | @wunder papeete | |
| 08:15 | munin | nicomo: The current temperature in Tahiti, French Polynesia is 27.0�C (10:00 PM TAHT on December 16, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:15 | nicomo | yeah, that's much better: feels warm just reading it |
| 08:17 | Ropuch | hehe |
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| 08:23 | chris | well that was annoying |
| 08:23 | went to 2 movie theatres, both full | |
| 08:24 | @wunder wellington nz | |
| 08:24 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (9:00 PM NZDT on December 17, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:24 | chris | feels a lot warmer than that |
| 08:31 | nicomo | hi chris |
| 08:31 | sorry about the annoyance | |
| 08:31 | what did you intend to see? | |
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| 08:36 | chris | nicomo: avatar |
| 08:37 | nicomo | ah, not entirely surprising then |
| 08:37 | annoying, still | |
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| 08:38 | CGI694 | ПРЮВЕТ |
| 08:38 | КУКУ | |
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| 08:39 | kf | good morning #koha |
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| 08:40 | Ropuch | guten Tag, kf |
| 08:42 | kf | hi Ropuch :) |
| 08:43 | Ropuch | Whoa, that was Hello from russia in cyrillic alphabet |
| 08:43 | ;> | |
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| 08:45 | hdl_laptop | chris hi |
| 08:45 | chris | hiya hdl_laptop |
| 08:46 | hdl_laptop | mmm seems that translate.koha.org has some problems |
| 08:46 | chris | nicomo: you know kete eh? walter the head developer for that is in avatar (as an extra) |
| 08:46 | hdl_laptop: hmmm let me look | |
| 08:46 | nicomo | chris: lot of motion pictures shooting in NZ it seems |
| 08:47 | kf | hi chris |
| 08:47 | chris | nicomo: yep, cheap place to do it, plus we have weta |
| 08:48 | hdl_laptop: fixed | |
| 08:48 | kf | chris: I had some problems with pootle yesterday too - got my message? |
| 08:48 | chris | hdl_laptop: ill set up a cron job to restart it each morning |
| 08:48 | pootle leaks ram slowly | |
| 08:48 | and it was out of memory | |
| 08:48 | kf: hmm lemme look | |
| 08:49 | kf: i think the best thing for those \n is to fix it in poedit then upload it | |
| 08:49 | (choosing overwrite) | |
| 08:51 | kf: http://translate.koha.org/de/i[…]ew_mode=translate | |
| 08:51 | does that work for you? | |
| 08:51 | how i got to that was to go to http://translate.koha.org/de/intranet3_1/ | |
| 08:51 | then click review | |
| 08:52 | http://translate.koha.org/de/i[…]et3_1/review.html | |
| 08:52 | then chose review suggestions | |
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| 08:58 | chris | only 4 blockers, without patches .. getting there |
| 08:59 | then the criticals, then the majors, then the normals ... then die of exhaustion :) | |
| 09:00 | hdl_laptop: with your latest push ... any template changes? I think no? | |
| 09:00 | * chris | wonders if he needs to regen the .po files |
| 09:00 | hdl_laptop | no. |
| 09:01 | making the release today | |
| 09:01 | nahuel | w00t ! |
| 09:01 | hi chris ! | |
| 09:01 | Ropuch | :) |
| 09:02 | chris | yay hdl_laptop !! :) |
| 09:02 | hdl_laptop++ | |
| 09:02 | Ropuch | hdl_laptop++ |
| 09:04 | kf | chris: sorry chris, was away from keyboard, reading back now |
| 09:04 | chris | np |
| 09:04 | kf | chris: link works, I can see the suggestions, but not buttons to approve them |
| 09:05 | chris | hmmm |
| 09:05 | lemme try something | |
| 09:05 | kf | chris: only the buttons I have for normal translation |
| 09:06 | chris | if you reload ... you get it now? |
| 09:08 | Amit | heya nahuel, chris |
| 09:09 | nahuel | aya |
| 09:10 | chris | kf: i tried changing the permissions again .. hopefully that link gives you some buttons now? |
| 09:13 | kf | chris: will test, mom |
| 09:13 | chris | thank you |
| 09:15 | kf | chris: no :( |
| 09:16 | chris | dangit |
| 09:17 | i can see it | |
| 09:17 | kf | the buttons? |
| 09:17 | chris | a little tick and an x |
| 09:17 | above the suggestion | |
| 09:18 | kf | yes, it worked this way before the update |
| 09:18 | click on tick and submit or on x to delete the suggestion... but I cant see them :( perhaps because these are my own suggestions? | |
| 09:20 | chris | ahh that is probably it |
| 09:20 | 2 secs | |
| 09:21 | Ropuch | kf: I can add one suggestion for you to try |
| 09:21 | chris | can you see my suggestion now? |
| 09:21 | Ropuch | Just name the .po :) |
| 09:21 | chris | (dont accept it :)) |
| 09:22 | kf | yes see it, but cant accept :( |
| 09:22 | I see the colored markup for differences, but no tick and x | |
| 09:28 | chris | how weird |
| 09:29 | kf | yes :( |
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| 09:30 | chris | what browser are you using? |
| 09:31 | kf | firefox |
| 09:31 | 3.5.3 | |
| 09:32 | chris | Ropuch: http://translate.koha.org/pl/o[…]ew_mode=translate |
| 09:32 | can you see see/approve suggestions here? | |
| 09:38 | Ropuch | Nope |
| 09:39 | I didin't realize it's not here because (as it seems I'm only one working at pl version ATM) I'm using lokalize and then upload .po | |
| 09:39 | But I remeber the buttons from previous pootle | |
| 09:41 | chris | how bizzare that i get them |
| 09:41 | ill have to keep looking into it | |
| 09:42 | but in the morning | |
| 09:43 | Ropuch | :) |
| 09:43 | chris: wait | |
| 09:43 | Sorry, O have the buttons | |
| 09:44 | chris | yay! |
| 09:44 | kf | Ropuch: where??? |
| 09:44 | :) | |
| 09:44 | Ropuch | I didin't realize i was loggoed oud somehow |
| 09:44 | chris | now i just have to figure out what is different |
| 09:44 | kf | ok, im logged in and did logout/login after chris's changes :( |
| 09:45 | Ropuch | kf: the same line as suggestion, to the right |
| 09:45 | kf | Ropuch: nothing :( |
| 09:46 | Ropuch | I can make suggestion, submit translation, view projhect and download archives |
| 09:46 | (permissions to opac 3.0) | |
| 09:47 | kf | where do you see this? |
| 09:47 | Ropuch | MY account > |
| 09:48 | And In project summary you should have 'permissions' link next to project | |
| 09:48 | kf | yes |
| 09:48 | which tab is this? | |
| 09:48 | Ropuch | Dashboard |
| 09:48 | kf | ok |
| 09:49 | which link on dashboard? | |
| 09:49 | Ropuch | Ok, first go to the Settings and select the projects you're involved in |
| 09:49 | (It's under my project down there) | |
| 09:49 | kf | all are chosen |
| 09:49 | intranet 3.0.x - terminology | |
| 09:50 | Ropuch | So they should appear at your dashboard |
| 09:50 | kf | they do |
| 09:51 | German - de is the first link, followed by the projects from the settings | |
| 09:51 | Ropuch | Then you shuold have (Permissions|Files) next to project -in german probably |
| 09:52 | kf | no |
| 09:52 | chris | what user are you logged in as? |
| 09:53 | ah ha | |
| 09:53 | katrin | |
| 09:53 | i gave Cait | |
| 09:53 | kf | https://opac.bsz-bw.de/koha_temp/dashboard.png |
| 09:53 | chris | thats the problem |
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| 09:53 | kf | aah |
| 09:54 | translating as katrin for a while now | |
| 09:54 | chris | ok katrin has permissions too |
| 09:54 | try now | |
| 09:54 | kf | I see the Ropuch's links now, try suggestions now |
| 09:55 | more links everywhere :) | |
| 09:55 | and can approve suggestions :) | |
| 09:55 | thx Ropuch and chris! | |
| 09:55 | Ropuch | :) |
| 09:55 | Hooray for chris ;> | |
| 09:55 | kf | chris++ |
| 09:56 | chris | and now, bedtime :) |
| 09:56 | kf | have to leave for a meeting now, will look at the new links in pootle later |
| 09:56 | sleep well chris! | |
| 09:56 | imp | gn8 chris |
| 09:57 | Ropuch | chris: I hope you won't be dreaming of pootle permissions ;> |
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| 10:17 | CGI844 | i am trying to install koha in fedora. this is the place i am stuck in : make: *** [set_koha_ownership] Error 1 chris could u clarify. |
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| 10:55 | CGI844 | can an administrator log in remotely onto koha server installed in windows platform. if so could u clarify. |
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| 14:21 | schuster | wanting to be clear on what I am getting with git. |
| 14:21 | right now when I do a git pull I'm getting HEAD 3.2 right? | |
| 14:22 | git clone //git.koha.org/pub/scm/koha.git | |
| 14:24 | hdl_laptop | yse |
| 14:24 | yes schuster | |
| 14:24 | out of the box, you have master | |
| 14:25 | If you want to get a 3.0.x then you have to git checkout -b local3.0.x origin/3.0.x | |
| 14:25 | schuster | OK thanks just making sure I'm not spinning my wheels trying to get 3.2 up and running... I'd have been really frustrated to end up with 3.00 again! |
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| 14:29 | Nate | Hello #koha |
| 14:30 | jwagner | Hi Nate |
| 14:30 | Nate | heya jwagner |
| 14:34 | nicomo | @seen magnusenger |
| 14:34 | munin | nicomo: magnusenger was last seen in #koha 1 week, 2 days, 0 hours, 5 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <magnusenger> hdl_laptop: nice! |
| 14:39 | tirabo | @seen bgkriegel |
| 14:39 | munin | tirabo: bgkriegel was last seen in #koha 17 hours, 18 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <bgkriegel> tirabo: hi |
| 15:01 | schuster | jdavidb around? |
| 15:01 | * jdavidb | perks up. |
| 15:10 | Ropuch | 6Ok, getting home |
| 15:11 | See ya in 15 minutes or so ;> | |
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| 15:27 | rhcl | Just an observation here directed at nobody in particular. I see there are about 50 people signed on right now, and this an average Thursday morning (here anyway). When I first started joining this chat like 6-8 months ago 20 people would have been a good number. |
| 15:29 | schuster | your point being - Koha is gaining momentum? |
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| 15:29 | schuster | I know several of these probably leave their IRC open all the time most likely. |
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| 15:32 | collum | @wunder 41011 |
| 15:32 | munin | collum: The current temperature in Newport Aquarium, Newport, Kentucky is -0.8�C (10:30 AM EST on December 17, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032.1 hPa (Rising). |
| 15:33 | jdavidb | @wunder 20852 |
| 15:33 | munin | jdavidb: The current temperature in Flower Valley, Rockville, Maryland is -0.9�C (10:23 AM EST on December 17, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020.5 hPa (Rising). |
| 15:33 | jwagner | rhcl, maybe munin adds to the IRC's popularity :-) |
| 15:33 | Or maybe a lot more of us are using it now for everyday problems, not just development. | |
| 15:36 | slef | schuster: yes, I'm mostly idle and only monitoring. |
| 15:37 | schuster | @wunder 75074 |
| 15:37 | munin | schuster: The current temperature in Brookview, Plano, Texas is 5.6�C (9:30 AM CST on December 17, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1000.9 hPa (Rising). |
| 15:37 | slef | @wunder Weston-super-Mare SOMERSET |
| 15:37 | munin | slef: The current temperature in Weston-Super-Mare, United Kingdom is 4.6�C (3:35 PM GMT on December 17, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady). |
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| 15:38 | Ropuch | @wunder Wroclaw |
| 15:38 | munin | Ropuch: The current temperature in Wroclaw, Poland is -9.0�C (4:30 PM CET on December 17, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -14.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
| 15:42 | hilongo | I leave the IRC open and take a look from time to time ... just to see what's on :) |
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| 15:43 | moodaepo | @wunder 56001 |
| 15:43 | munin | moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is -10.4�C (9:41 AM CST on December 17, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -10.0�C. Pressure: 30.17 in 1021.6 hPa (Falling). |
| 15:44 | hilongo | for me .. .it's like to sneak peak into a VIP room :P |
| 15:44 | haha | |
| 15:44 | collum | Wow. moodaepo wins temperature wise. |
| 15:44 | hilongo | @wunder Mendoza, Argentina |
| 15:44 | munin | hilongo: The current temperature in Mendoza Aerodrome, Argentina is 30.0�C (12:00 PM ART on December 17, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.63 in 1003 hPa (Falling). |
| 15:44 | moodaepo | collum: I think it's gotten a bit warmer since yesterday : ) |
| 15:45 | collum | heat wave |
| 15:45 | hilongo | I'm at the other side of the world ... so we're melting over here |
| 15:45 | jdavidb | 30C isn't that hot! |
| 15:45 | moodaepo | @where hilongo |
| 15:45 | munin | moodaepo: Error: "where" is not a valid command. |
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| 15:47 | * jdavidb | used to live in a place that regularly got to 40C in the summer, every day for several weeks. He does not miss that very much. |
| 15:47 | hilongo | it isn't ... but living in the middle of the mountains it 'feels' warmer |
| 15:48 | * hilongo | wouldn't miss 40C that much either |
| 15:48 | jdavidb | Humidity makes a huge difference. Here in Washington DC, 30C feels like a sauna, especially down close to the river. 40C would fry your brains, but you wouldn't be soaked in sweat, because it was *so* dry. |
| 15:48 | collum | Yep: I used to live in Houston. I like cold better. |
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| 15:49 | jdavidb | Houston gets the worst of both worlds. 35-38C, *and* 90% humidity. |
| 15:49 | collum | And 2 hour commutes. |
| 15:50 | jdavidb | hehe. yup. |
| 15:51 | chris_n2 | nengard about? |
| 15:51 | nengard | yup |
| 15:52 | chris_n2 | re bug 2635 |
| 15:52 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2635 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger foundations.edu, NEW, Adding non-digit chars to cost fields in items causes data corruption |
| 15:52 | chris_n2 | this was work I did for LL and submitted a patch, but cannot see that it was ever committed |
| 15:52 | unfortunately I no longer have the work | |
| 15:53 | and I'm not sure what the intended behavior is atm... sorry... :-( | |
| 15:54 | nengard | chris_n2 :( you should put that on the bug report I guess - chris asked me to go through and close all fixed bugs and note if a bug wasn't fixed - so I did :) |
| 15:54 | schuster | nengard - don't be mad at me, but I just posted a very lengthy post to your blog. I hope we can still be friends. |
| 15:55 | chris_n2 | nengard: will do... its just too bad the work did not make it into the repo |
| 15:55 | nengard | i'm not surprised - unfortunatly |
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| 15:58 | slef | we need a patch tracker or better linking between bugzilla and git |
| 15:58 | and no, I'm not writing one today :-( | |
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| 15:59 | nahuel | slef, there is a git plugin |
| 15:59 | a bugzilla plugin for git | |
| 15:59 | ask to chris | |
| 16:00 | slef | this has been said before - presumably we need clay or someone at LL to install it? |
| 16:00 | schuster | nengard and chris_n2 - well I don't have that patch as a LL client self hosted. Nobody has gotten patches in awhile. |
| 16:01 | wizzyrea | it's been june since we've gotten patches |
| 16:01 | except for some Dev work | |
| 16:02 | chris_n2 | schuster: this would have been back in august of 08 |
| 16:02 | nengard | schuster - you're silly - why the hell would i be mad at you for speaking your mind which is what the whole post is about??? |
| 16:02 | anyway - replied | |
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| 16:06 | schuster | chris_n2 - well then I have no idea why it hasn't been pushed as it hasn't even made it into LL patches! |
| 16:08 | slef | schuster: nengard: where's the post? |
| 16:08 | nengard | http://www.web2learning.net/archives/3434 |
| 16:08 | schuster | Thanks - nengard |
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| 16:29 | chris | slef: the plugin works locally |
| 16:29 | slef | chris: where local is what? |
| 16:29 | chris | your machine |
| 16:29 | after you commit | |
| 16:29 | you can then create a bug from that commit | |
| 16:30 | slef | but for attaching to existing bugs? |
| 16:30 | chris | or attach a patch to a bug, from that commit |
| 16:30 | you have to be authenticated to bugzilla at the time | |
| 16:30 | it uses that to do it | |
| 16:30 | its kinda trick | |
| 16:30 | slef | ok... could it be made to run when updating a branch from git.koha.org? |
| 16:31 | so upload for other people's commits if there's no attachment | |
| 16:31 | chris | http://blog.fishsoup.net/2008/[…]bcommand-for-git/ |
| 16:31 | slef | ta |
| 16:31 | chris | sure, if there is a commit, you can attach it |
| 16:32 | what i would like to see us use | |
| 16:32 | is http://procode.org/stgit/ | |
| 16:33 | slef | probably could develop that into something that read the patches mailing list and posted the patches into bugzilla if needed |
| 16:34 | chris | or at least expirement with it to see if it works ... or maybe something even simpler |
| 16:34 | just some dirs on a webserver | |
| 16:34 | patches to be applied | |
| 16:34 | patches applied | |
| 16:34 | patches rejected | |
| 16:35 | so you could just look in there | |
| 16:35 | cos its doing my head in trying to keep up with what has been applied, and what hasnt | |
| 16:35 | * slef | looks at the list archive a bit more closely |
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| 16:36 | chris | why the hell am i awake at 5.30am talking about git??? |
| 16:36 | slef | heh, is the answer "children"? But why the hell am I awake at 4.30pm talking about git? |
| 16:37 | * slef | returns to banking |
| 16:37 | chris | ;) |
| 16:37 | yep, hungry baby | |
| 16:40 | paul_p2 | chris: do you know that there is an option to power off your computer? that would make wake up at 5AM shorter & consume less electricity ;-) |
| 16:41 | nengard | i've been up at 5:30am talking about git |
| 16:41 | usually cause it's a koha meeting ... but still :) | |
| 16:41 | chris | gotta do something while the baby goes back to sleep :) |
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| 16:44 | nengard | chris - time to start knitting |
| 16:44 | that's what i do when i need to stop thinking about things and clear my brain before sleep | |
| 16:44 | chris | good idea |
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| 16:57 | chris | note to self, dont read comments on blogposts in the morning ... |
| 16:57 | * chris | shakes his head sadly and goes back to bed |
| 16:57 | nengard | :( sorry |
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| 16:59 | schuster | chris - sorry. |
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| 17:38 | joetho | hello |
| 17:38 | I have a transfer question- in the "branchtransfers" table, -COMMENTS- field, what do the values 'Forced branchtransfer' and 'wrongtransfer' mean? | |
| 17:39 | anyone? anyone? | |
| 17:41 | schuster | Sorry I can only guess - forced would be when the Librarian initiates it to send rather than the system automatically doing it? |
| 17:41 | wrong transfer maybe when the wrong location checks it in? | |
| 17:42 | nengard | sorry joetho - not sure here either - but someone was talking about adding notes to SQL tables to make them make more sense - what ever happened to that? |
| 17:42 | joetho | Those are good guesses. |
| 17:43 | I am trying to research this, to make our end-of-time reports as accurate as possible. | |
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| 17:45 | joetho | Thank you David |
| 17:45 | and Nicole too. Saw yer blog entry yesterday, btw. Take no prisoners!! | |
| 17:52 | nengard | joetho :) |
| 17:54 | schuster | I've played with it but don't see how the comment gets there. |
| 17:55 | chris | morning again |
| 17:58 | Ropuch | Evening again ;> |
| 17:58 | chris | ah ben ben ben |
| 17:58 | trolly troll troll | |
| 17:59 | "look at me, i can totally misrepresent a situation" | |
| 17:59 | luckily i have given up commenting on blogposts | |
| 18:02 | since when did liblime customers become not part of the community? | |
| 18:02 | otoh he left a nice message on my blog :) | |
| 18:03 | nengard | hmm |
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| 18:04 | schuster | OK figured out the forced business! If you have a book from library B at Library A and you check it out no problem. If you check it out the second time it does a forced transfer to library A from A |
| 18:04 | joetho | check out a second time... meaning... |
| 18:04 | schuster | I'm not part of the community? |
| 18:04 | nengard | according to ben you're not |
| 18:05 | joetho | well according to Joe you are. |
| 18:05 | nengard | :) hehe |
| 18:05 | chris | joe trumps ben |
| 18:05 | nengard | yup |
| 18:05 | joetho | what do you mean, check out a second time? |
| 18:05 | renew? check out to another patron? | |
| 18:05 | chris | who plays euchre? |
| 18:05 | schuster | I checked this book out from library A that is owned by library B - someone else at library A and it is still owned by library B but still at A does a force transfer - even though the book never really moved locations. |
| 18:05 | Ropuch | chris: is Ben striking back again? ;> |
| 18:05 | joetho | ah |
| 18:06 | nengard | got a question - what is the patrons with no checkouts report supposed to look like? I have a ton of patrons who have never checked out -but they don't appear on the report ... |
| 18:06 | schuster | euchre! Oh my!! Havn't in a long time but it was a Minnesota thing when I was little. |
| 18:06 | joetho | rock paper scissors |
| 18:06 | chris | next time im awake at 5am i should find some online euchre site or something :) |
| 18:07 | one of my holiday jobs was cutting kevlar and fibreglass | |
| 18:07 | to make helmets .. made some for london fire brigade, hong kong riot police etc | |
| 18:08 | every smoko break, and lunch break, all the factory workers would beat me in euchre | |
| 18:09 | was the most mind numbingly boring job ever, slide the kevlar, put the blade on it, swing the press over, push the buttons 10 tonne of pressure down, click, ... move it off, start again | |
| 18:09 | schuster | nengard - I don't know it doesn't seem to work right for me. |
| 18:09 | chris | but the euchre made up for it |
| 18:09 | nengard: yeah im not sure it works properly either | |
| 18:10 | schuster | it has item limits in it too??? |
| 18:10 | nengard | chris - okay - bug report coming |
| 18:10 | schuster | chris where is that blog post guess I need to give ben a piece of my mind. |
| 18:10 | chris | nicoles blog |
| 18:16 | schuster | nengard - when looking at this report it doesn't look like it would limit to the location either unless I overlooked it ... |
| 18:16 | nengard | yeah - i think it's just all kinds of messed up :) hehe |
| 18:21 | joetho | another question - in the "canned" report module, ( /cgi-bin/koha/reports/issues_stats.pl ) ...does "Library" refer to holding branch or owning branch? |
| 18:22 | chris | i think that we should remove the links to the canned reports until we overhaul them |
| 18:22 | joetho | the report itself refers to "statistics.branch" and I can't figure out which is which. I have independent branches turned on. |
| 18:23 | I think about you every time somebody asks me about them | |
| 18:23 | I think they are great, and easy for librarians to use. | |
| 18:23 | How bout we just make em work right. | |
| 18:24 | nengard | chris - no - i just finished documenting them :) hehe - you can't remove them |
| 18:24 | joetho | or clarify exactly what it is they are reporting to you. To wit: my reports problem du jur |
| 18:24 | chris | if its statistics.branch |
| 18:25 | then its the branch the item was issued from | |
| 18:25 | so could be either | |
| 18:25 | or both | |
| 18:25 | nengard | :) |
| 18:25 | chris | on none |
| 18:25 | or none as well | |
| 18:25 | nengard | is this where you the ILS has crazy rules part comes in? :) |
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| 18:26 | chris | no statistics.branch just stores the branch where the transaction took place |
| 18:26 | it doesnt care what the items homebranch or holdingbranch is | |
| 18:26 | just where that transaction took place | |
| 18:27 | if you can only ever issue things at their homebranch .. then it will be that .. but that is just coincidence | |
| 18:27 | does that make sense? | |
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| 18:32 | nengard | makes sense to me |
| 18:32 | made sense to me before :) | |
| 18:33 | chris | nothing about an ILS makes sense to me :) |
| 18:33 | nengard | hehe |
| 18:33 | chris | i just go "you want it to do what???? oh ok then" |
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| 18:40 | joetho | oh my. Libraries like to have accurate statistics of what they do and it doesn't look like my consortium will get that from statistics.branch |
| 18:40 | I won't tell em if you won't | |
| 18:50 | chris | oh? |
| 18:50 | it tracks the library that did something .. is there more accurate than that? | |
| 18:51 | tracking libraries that didnt do something instead? :-) | |
| 18:53 | maybe im not being clear | |
| 18:53 | if i walk into moonbeam kansas library, (i hope this actually exists) and check a book out there | |
| 18:54 | then statistics.branch will be moonbeam for that transaction | |
| 18:54 | if i go to twigtown next | |
| 18:54 | and return it | |
| 18:54 | statistics.branch will be twigtown | |
| 18:54 | that help? | |
| 18:57 | wizzyrea | that makes sense to me |
| 18:57 | :P | |
| 18:57 | no moonbeam that I know of, though | |
| 18:57 | damn shame. | |
| 18:57 | chris | can we found it? |
| 18:57 | what does it take to start a town anyway? | |
| 18:57 | nengard | hehe |
| 18:57 | money i think | |
| 18:57 | lots of it | |
| 18:57 | wizzyrea | probably ^.^ not sure, will have to look |
| 18:57 | chris | kill off the indigenous ppl and plant a flag? |
| 18:57 | wizzyrea | always that |
| 18:57 | hmm | |
| 18:58 | chris | thats how it was done here anyway :) |
| 18:58 | and with that gross generalisation on the history of colonisation | |
| 18:58 | im off to catch my bus | |
| 18:59 | wizzyrea | and here I was going to go off about incorporation and foundation of city government... |
| 19:03 | joetho | Not to change the subject, but here's how I spotted this alleged "problem": |
| 19:03 | 1. Our consortium main library attempts to fill an ILL request and finds the item at another branch within our consortium. | |
| 19:04 | 2. Main library requests that the branch library transfer the item to the main library. They do. | |
| 19:05 | 3. Main library checks the book out to the ILL borrowing library (not part of consortium, but they exist as a special "ILL-category" patron. | |
| 19:06 | 4. Statistics show that the little branch library checked the book out to the patron, when in fact the main library did. | |
| 19:06 | 5. I'm exhausted just thinking about it. | |
| 19:07 | nengard | okay - well in that case i bet we could write a report to give you the numbers you need - but that's a strange case |
| 19:07 | joetho | This is really more of a procedural issue, I suppose. |
| 19:07 | nengard | in most cases the library checks their own item out |
| 19:07 | joetho | If we had unmedicated ILL it would be different, but a lot of our ILL in Kansas is pretty hands-on |
| 19:09 | "unmedicated" = "unmediated" | |
| 19:10 | that's what one of the guys in our state library calls it | |
| 19:14 | nengard | well a report that pulls the home library instead of the statistics branch should be pretty easy for you to work up |
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| 19:47 | schuster | joetho - do you run independant branches? |
| 19:47 | in which case you may need to be medicated... ;) | |
| 19:47 | chris | back |
| 19:48 | ah yeah, like i said, "you want what???" :-) | |
| 19:56 | hilongo | hello there... just got here :) |
| 19:56 | but... about "independant branches" ... | |
| 19:57 | is it possible to search patrons from another branch by their names and not only by theie cardnumbers? | |
| 19:57 | in the releases after 3.0.1... I mean | |
| 19:57 | joetho | <---yes, independent branches |
| 19:58 | hilongo: that seems to depend on the gui you are searching from | |
| 19:58 | but in general, no | |
| 19:58 | I think | |
| 19:59 | hilongo | Hmm.. I see |
| 20:02 | Anyway, that is no a really big problem right now ... :P | |
| 20:05 | joetho | if you know what branch they are from, you can change to that branch and find them by name. |
| 20:05 | If you have the user permissions to do that | |
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| 20:06 | hilongo | Yep ... but the idea is tha staff from one branch cannot login as a staff of another branch |
| 20:07 | but still be able to loan and reserve items to patrons from any branch | |
| 20:09 | It can be done right now, but some librarians prefer to search a patron by the lastname | |
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| 20:39 | * chris_n2 | thinks it is significant that ben lurks on the irc log rather than the channel itself |
| 20:40 | chris_n2 | nengard++ #for her blog post |
| 20:40 | wizzyrea | ben who? |
| 20:41 | chris_n2 | ben ide (I think that's his last name) |
| 20:41 | works for a WALDO library iirc | |
| 20:42 | wizzyrea | Oh right, connecticut |
| 20:42 | * chris_n2 | thought he might be coming around at one point |
| 20:42 | * wizzyrea | did too |
| 20:42 | is sad that he's not | |
| 20:42 | waves to Ben HIYA! | |
| 20:42 | chris_n2 | but then maybe he got called into the "principal's office" |
| 20:43 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 20:43 | that term always makes me giggle, while simultaneously filling me with dread | |
| 20:43 | chris_n2 | lol :-) |
| 20:44 | sekjal | Ben's a good guy in person. He just seems to have a way of coming off badly electronically |
| 20:44 | chris_n2 | never met him live and in person, but I'd agree with the electronically bit |
| 20:45 | * chris_n2 | had better go find something else to do... |
| 20:46 | sekjal | quick question: is koha-patcheslists.koha.org the preferred destination for patches, or is patcheskoha.org? |
| 20:46 | the wiki says the former, my inbox shows both | |
| 20:46 | chris_n2 | I think patcheskoha.org |
| 20:46 | wizzyrea | patcheskoha.org is what I always use |
| 20:47 | sekjal | cool, thanks! I just spotted a bug, and it was an easy fix, so I'll give it a whirl |
| 20:47 | wizzyrea | and by "always" i mean, the 6 times I've done it :P |
| 20:47 | chris | i always use koha-patcheslists.koha.org |
| 20:47 | and encourage everyone to | |
| 20:47 | because patcheskoha.org is just a redirect |
|
| 20:47 | sekjal | ah |
| 20:48 | chris | but it goes through a mail server and has filters/spam scanning applied |
| 20:48 | its just adding a point of failure for no need | |
| 20:50 | wizzyrea | hmm, good to know |
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| 20:52 | chris_n2 | bbl |
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| 22:21 | hdl_laptop | chris : I try and apply all the patches sent to list on a day-to-day base. |
| 22:22 | There are patches which cannot pass. | |
| 22:22 | chris | *nod* |
| 22:22 | do you think just have 3 dirs on a webserver would be handy? | |
| 22:22 | patches_applied, patches_waiting, patches_rejected | |
| 22:23 | hdl_laptop | maybe. Maybe stgit could be also handy. |
| 22:23 | chris | stgit involves a bit of change in work flow .. but might be good |
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| 22:23 | hdl_laptop | But having only thunderbird directory is a pain. |
| 22:24 | chris | definitely |
| 22:24 | hdl_laptop | are you using mutt ? |
| 22:24 | chris | the nice thing with the dirs, is that when the RM applies a patch, they just move it |
| 22:24 | then people can just look and see oh my patch is still in the waiting dir | |
| 22:24 | i use sup | |
| 22:25 | hdl_laptop | well there should be more dirs |
| 22:25 | chris | http://sup.rubyforge.org/ |
| 22:25 | sup and offlineimap | |
| 22:25 | hdl_laptop | waiting testing applied pushed cantapply rejected |
| 22:26 | chris | that would work |
| 22:26 | it would just be nice to have a easy way to see how many patches are waiting etc | |
| 22:27 | hdl_laptop | I thought that it could be done with using topic branches with authoremails on top of dev |
| 22:28 | and some branches on the project. | |
| 22:28 | chris | yep, that's another possibility |
| 22:30 | hdl_laptop | see 3.2_community on git.biblibre.com for all the patches sent that pass on a master branchautomatically |
| 22:30 | I have some encoding error | |
| 22:31 | chris | cool |
| 22:31 | http://git.biblibre.com/cgi-bi[…]ads/3.2_community for anyone else interested ;) | |
| 22:32 | i should track that with my autobuilder | |
| 22:32 | hdl_laptop | cannot convert from utf-8utf-8 to utf-8 |
| 22:32 | chris | heh |
| 22:32 | hdl_laptop | I think it comes from 0024 Puts focus in search box on page load |
| 22:33 | chris | ah could be |
| 22:33 | hmm nope | |
| 22:33 | http://git.biblibre.com/cgi-bi[…]825bfeccf83d4a9ea | |
| 22:34 | that looks ok | |
| 22:34 | hdl_laptop | are you used to git submodule ? |
| 22:34 | chris | nope havent used it |
| 22:35 | hdl_laptop | I am using it and I think it could be great to use that for translation and configurations. |
| 22:35 | But I still have to master that part more | |
| 22:35 | chris | cool |
| 22:39 | hdl_laptop | then we would have independent parts and update regularly |
| 22:39 | chris | yeah that would be great |
| 23:06 | Nate | gnight everyone! |
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