| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
Genji |
just @attr 1=31 1983, unsupported use. |
| 00:01 |
pianohacker |
Huh. |
| 00:01 |
Genji |
@attr 1=31 4=109 , success.. no results. |
| 00:01 |
munin |
Genji: Error: "attr" is not a valid command. |
| 00:02 |
pianohacker |
Jesus christ, I loathe z39.50 and zebra's unhelpful error codes |
| 00:03 |
Genji |
Yup. |
| 00:11 |
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| 00:26 |
Genji |
Yahoo!!!!! |
| 00:26 |
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it was being parsed by icuchain |
| 00:27 |
owen |
Okay, here's a make test error if anyone's willing to interpret: |
| 00:27 |
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Error: Can't locate C4/Bookfund.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /home/oleonard/kohaclone/blib/PERL_MODULE_DIR /home/oleonard/kohaclone/blib/arch /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl . /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5... |
| 00:27 |
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.../usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at (eval 3) line 2 |
| 00:31 |
pianohacker |
owen: is this a dev install? |
| 00:31 |
owen |
Yes |
| 00:31 |
pianohacker |
would make sense, since PERL_MODULE_DIR hasn't been replaced with the correct location of the perl modules |
| 00:32 |
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env PERL5LIB=/home/oleonard/kohaclone/ make test might work |
| 00:33 |
owen |
I was curious about that. Did I miss a step during the preparation, or is that normal for a dev install, or what? |
| 00:35 |
pianohacker |
I think that's normal for a dev install |
| 00:35 |
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Yet another bug |
| 00:35 |
chris |
i dont think thats normal |
| 00:36 |
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you have done the make install step? |
| 00:37 |
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thats certainly not what my koha-httpd.conf has set as it's PERL5LIB |
| 00:37 |
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mine says SetEnv PERL5LIB "/home/chris/git/koha.git" |
| 00:38 |
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if there are any BLIB things in your koha-httpd.conf |
| 00:38 |
pianohacker |
chris: in the same vein: should you disable the seemingly worthless blib copy step for a dev install, and can you? |
| 00:38 |
chris |
you ahve either missed a step, or symlinked the wrong one |
| 00:38 |
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its not worthless |
| 00:38 |
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the install step copies your config files outside of your git dir |
| 00:39 |
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so and changes the values in them |
| 00:39 |
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so they dont get stomped over |
| 00:39 |
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if you do a git clean or something |
| 00:39 |
pianohacker |
what about copying C4/ to blib/PERL_MODULE_DIR/ ? |
| 00:39 |
chris |
that's harmless |
| 00:39 |
pianohacker |
Also, I've duplicated owen's error exactly :/ |
| 00:39 |
chris |
did you do the make install step? |
| 00:40 |
pianohacker |
Not recently, time to likely fubar my zebra config |
| 00:40 |
chris |
and end up with a koha-httpd.conf file outside in something like /home/chris/koha-dev/etc/koha-httpd.conf ? |
| 00:41 |
pianohacker |
still fails after a make install; though it's set correctly in koha-httpd.conf |
| 00:43 |
chris |
and you have copied that to your apache2 and restarted apache etc? |
| 00:44 |
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so apache is using the right config file? |
| 00:44 |
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(the one with no BLIB stuff in it) |
| 00:44 |
pianohacker |
Koha itself is, to the best of my knowledge, working fine |
| 00:44 |
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It's make test that's broken |
| 00:44 |
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Sorry |
| 00:44 |
chris |
oh make test |
| 00:44 |
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yeah ignore it |
| 00:45 |
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make test is currently worthless |
| 00:45 |
owen |
:) So ignore any warnings it gives me? |
| 00:45 |
chris |
yes |
| 00:45 |
pianohacker |
Again, sorry for the stress. Why the include for C4/Bookfund broken, anyway? |
| 00:45 |
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(if you know) |
| 00:46 |
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Just seems like the test suite is spitting out some very odd errors |
| 00:46 |
chris |
C4/Bookfund doesnt exist |
| 00:46 |
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the problem is bad people have changed lots of code |
| 00:46 |
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and not changed the tests |
| 00:46 |
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:-) |
| 00:46 |
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there is no C4::Bookfund anymore |
| 00:47 |
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| 00:47 |
chris |
but there is still a t/Bookfund.t |
| 00:47 |
pianohacker |
ooh, can we add _another_ focus for 3.4? |
| 00:47 |
chris |
I will reject patches for this reason |
| 00:47 |
pianohacker |
Fix the test suite |
| 00:47 |
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I was just about to ask |
| 00:56 |
Genji |
chris, ive fixed my problem. the arabic coder put the numeric field into the icuchain. |
| 00:57 |
chris |
cool |
| 00:57 |
Genji |
So, i just removed the icuchain from numerics.. and it worked! |
| 00:57 |
* brendan |
hands chris a judges mallet |
| 00:57 |
pianohacker |
Zebra problem solving: poke poke poke *check* *sigh* poke poke p- Hey, it works! |
| 00:58 |
* Genji |
nods... "Something like that. It was hdl who gave me the clue, by giving me the content of his default.idx, relevant to numeric. |
| 00:59 |
Genji |
I would of never thought of htat. |
| 00:59 |
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that. |
| 01:03 |
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can icuchains slow down the zebra search? |
| 01:04 |
pianohacker |
I have no idea. It's possible, but you'd have to measure |
| 01:04 |
Genji |
any easy method of measuring koha speed bottlenecks? |
| 01:04 |
pianohacker |
In koha's current design, there's so many other factors that the 0.1 seconds you'd probably save would pale in comparison to a 5-second page load |
| 01:04 |
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*shrug* there's perl profilers |
| 01:05 |
masonj |
the bottlenecks are pretty well understood, imho.. |
| 01:05 |
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circ has become quite slower, in koha3 |
| 01:06 |
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from the xml handling |
| 01:06 |
pianohacker |
yup |
| 01:06 |
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zebra's fast enough that most search bottlenecks are going to be on the koha side, most likely |
| 01:06 |
masonj |
but the zebra searching is really fast, so win some/lose some ;) |
| 01:08 |
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yeah, but the circ/xml stuff can get fixed in the future, i am sure |
| 01:09 |
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ive been collecting munin stats, on a well-loaded koha3 prod-box for 6 months |
| 01:10 |
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.. and using munin's mysql/innodb plugings to tune the mysql and apache settings |
| 01:10 |
pianohacker |
what's your average system load like? |
| 01:13 |
masonj |
around 1.0 during the day, with high/low values of 0.6/1.4 |
| 01:13 |
chris |
how many cores mason? |
| 01:13 |
masonj |
on a intel 'core duo?' 1.8 |
| 01:13 |
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snap ;) |
| 01:13 |
chris |
ahh so thats under 1 |
| 01:13 |
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sweet |
| 01:14 |
masonj |
$ cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 01:14 |
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vendor_id : GenuineIntel |
| 01:14 |
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model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU 3040 @ 1.86GHz |
| 01:15 |
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/me cant remember intel cpu models... |
| 01:17 |
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koha3 prolly makes good use of a dual core system |
| 01:17 |
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as mysql and zebra both get busy under load |
| 01:23 |
Genji |
Okay, im off to a movie in celebration! |
| 01:53 |
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| 03:18 |
Amit |
heya brendan, chris_n2, chris |
| 03:19 |
brendan |
heya amit |
| 03:20 |
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how was the commute to work today? |
| 03:37 |
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| 03:38 |
CGI813 |
hey guys my name is josh! |
| 03:38 |
pianohacker |
greetings |
| 03:38 |
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Do you have a specific koha question? |
| 03:38 |
CGI813 |
hey pianohacker |
| 03:38 |
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no but you can ask me anything? |
| 03:38 |
hdl_laptop |
@later tell Genji : When you are not using index w, since @attr 4=109 tells about structure index :n and default is w, search without @attr 4=109 will definitely fail. |
| 03:38 |
munin |
hdl_laptop: The operation succeeded. |
| 03:39 |
CGI813 |
are u still there |
| 03:40 |
pianohacker |
yes |
| 03:41 |
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as you don't have a question |
| 03:41 |
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I do not have an answer |
| 03:41 |
CGI813 |
i do? |
| 03:41 |
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why are you so inpatient for? |
| 03:41 |
pianohacker |
not impatient |
| 03:41 |
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just quiet |
| 03:42 |
CGI813 |
what do you mean? |
| 03:42 |
* SelfishMan |
mumbles about bots |
| 03:42 |
chris |
i wonder if we should just kill the cgi::irc .. most ppl use mibbit now |
| 03:42 |
SelfishMan |
chris: yes |
| 03:42 |
chris |
oh wait, we can't |
| 03:43 |
SelfishMan |
Also, I wrote a really nice addon for irssi that redacts people on your ignore list |
| 03:43 |
pianohacker |
Oh, right |
| 03:43 |
SelfishMan |
makes it rather entertaining at times |
| 03:43 |
pianohacker |
SelfishMan: redacts? |
| 03:43 |
CGI813 |
are you bots? |
| 03:44 |
SelfishMan |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redaction |
| 03:44 |
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Example: |
| 03:44 |
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22:42 <CGI813> <redacted> |
| 03:44 |
CGI813 |
are you bots? |
| 03:44 |
pianohacker |
Oh my |
| 03:44 |
CGI813 |
hello |
| 03:45 |
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are you YES or NO? |
| 03:45 |
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im talkin to you pianohacker |
| 03:49 |
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pianohacker are you there |
| 03:49 |
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who are you |
| 03:50 |
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losers |
| 03:50 |
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your such freaks i swear |
| 03:51 |
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| 03:52 |
chris |
the annoying thing is, im not sure it always comes from a fixed ip, since the www.koha.org server is in amazon's cloud |
| 03:53 |
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but blocking 174.129.238.79 is probably a good start |
| 03:56 |
SelfishMan |
I can't remember, where are the logs for this channel? |
| 03:57 |
chris |
http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/today |
| 03:57 |
SelfishMan |
thank you |
| 03:59 |
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I would bet that it is prety static |
| 04:01 |
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changing an IP for a production website is pretty painful |
| 04:01 |
chris |
yeah but it's ec2 |
| 04:01 |
SelfishMan |
and? |
| 04:01 |
chris |
i dont know how their networking works |
| 04:01 |
SelfishMan |
ec2 fully supports static IPs |
| 04:01 |
chris |
yes on the front |
| 04:03 |
SelfishMan |
I've worked with ec2 more than enough and can say that the cgi::irc client will keep coming from that IP unless LL restructures |
| 04:04 |
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and if they change things then it will be static again |
| 04:04 |
chris |
cool |
| 04:04 |
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i know they do DNAT and SNAT |
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| 04:07 |
SelfishMan |
yeah but public IPs are pretty constant. An instance will send traffic out via the static IP. Dynamic IPs are another story though |
| 04:07 |
chris |
yup |
| 04:08 |
SelfishMan |
I'm not a fan of EC2 because of all the tricks they do and hoops they make people jump through |
| 04:10 |
CGI985 |
I have same problem yet... |
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| 04:14 |
chris |
i dont think that was a bot, just a bored kid |
| 04:14 |
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either that or the worst bot ive seen |
| 04:14 |
pianohacker |
ELIZA would be deeply ashamed |
| 04:14 |
SelfishMan |
yeah, not likely to be a bot but it had all the same behavior |
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| 04:20 |
CGI118 |
hi all |
| 04:20 |
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| 04:22 |
CGI1985 |
when I try to run /etc/init.d/apache2 restart |
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| 04:22 |
CGI1985 |
it show following error, which I cant solve yet |
| 04:22 |
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Restarting web server: apache2[Sun Dec 06 13:16:11 2009] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts ... waiting .[Sun Dec 06 13:16:13 2009] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts |
| 04:22 |
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can any body help me regarding this |
| 04:23 |
pianohacker |
CGI1985: You can safely ignore that unless something else is broken |
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| 04:33 |
masonj |
yep, thats exactly what i said last nite, too ;) |
| 04:38 |
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it would be a nice mod to the current koha-irc page, to snarf ans display the clients ip address |
| 04:38 |
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s/ans/and/ |
| 04:39 |
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that would def. make people a little more cautious about driveby irc-spamming |
| 04:40 |
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and would allow me to ignore further chat from that ip, in future |
| 04:43 |
pianohacker |
masonj: The username of the user is their IP in hex form |
| 04:43 |
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masonj: see http://www.kloth.net/services/iplocate.php for an useful translator |
| 04:44 |
masonj |
aaah, too easy! |
| 04:44 |
pianohacker |
I'm pretty sure that's true, haven't seen it confirmed |
| 04:44 |
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If so, the chanops could easily ban specific CGI::IRC IPs |
| 04:45 |
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If, that is, we had any chanops |
| 04:49 |
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(confirmed: http://cgiirc.org/docs/config.php , section "Access settings") |
| 05:02 |
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Good night |
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| 06:31 |
Genji |
Hiya.. whats YAML? |
| 06:31 |
imp |
YAML Ain't Markup Language (tm) ;) |
| 06:32 |
Genji |
Whats it doing in Koha? |
| 06:33 |
imp |
Genji: guess it's this yaml: "Yet Another Multicolumn Layout" |
| 06:36 |
Genji |
"YAML::Syck" is the longest running sub in a opac-search ive got. |
| 06:36 |
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10.4 0.270 0.270 3039 0.0001 0.0001 YAML::Syck::DumpYAML |
| 06:37 |
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followed by |
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8.14 0.210 0.210 3039 0.0001 0.0001 YAML::Syck::LoadYAML |
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| 06:43 |
CGI1985 |
this command is not working /etc/perl/CPAN/Config.pm initialized |
| 06:44 |
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bash: /etc/perl/CPAN/Config.pm: Permission denied |
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sudo /etc/perl/CPAN/Config.pm initializedsudo: /etc/perl/CPAN/Config.pm: command not found |
| 06:45 |
Amit |
heya Genji |
| 06:46 |
Genji |
hiya Amit. |
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| 06:46 |
Genji |
Amit: i fixed my numeric index problem. |
| 06:46 |
Amit |
ok |
| 06:46 |
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what problem? |
| 06:50 |
Genji |
Oh, you don't know. Okay, problem was 260$c, pubdate, was not being indexed correctly. |
| 06:50 |
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This was a library that made koha work for Arabic, back in koha 3.0rc1. |
| 06:52 |
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So, obviously, one of the developers thought a quick and easy way to transliterate utf8 was to use icuchain rules. |
| 06:52 |
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That developer made the mistake of putting these icuchains everywhere in default.idx. |
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CGI1985 |
this command is not working /etc/perl/CPAN/Config.pm initialized<CGI1985> bash: /etc/perl/CPAN/Config.pm: Permission denied<CGI1985> sudo /etc/perl/CPAN/Config.pm initializedsudo: /etc/perl/CPAN/Config.pm: command not found |
| 07:04 |
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how can I solve this |
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Ropuch |
Morning #koha |
| 07:10 |
imp |
hi Ropuch |
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| 07:54 |
chris |
Genji: yaml is a fantastic way to construct config files, and the systempreference editor uses it also |
| 07:56 |
Ropuch |
Helllo chris |
| 07:57 |
chris |
hiya Ropuch |
| 08:03 |
Genji |
chris: an opac search spends 10% of its time, wrapped up in YAML calls. |
| 08:04 |
chris |
yep, thats the config file, if it was xml it would be about 50% of its time |
| 08:04 |
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3.2 caches those calls |
| 08:05 |
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http://profiles.workbuffer.org/opac-search/ |
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before cache http://profiles.workbuffer.org/opac-main/ |
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chris |
after |
| 08:06 |
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http://profiles.workbuffer.org/opac-main-memoize/ |
| 08:07 |
Genji |
would it be difficult to murge the cache calls from 3.2 into a 3.0 base? |
| 08:07 |
chris |
yes |
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CGI1985 |
is any one there to solve my problem |
| 08:07 |
chris |
but not impossible |
| 08:07 |
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C4::Languages is the slowest part of every page in the opac |
| 08:08 |
CGI1985 |
hi masonj: r u there? |
| 08:09 |
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I have not solved this prob yet? |
| 08:11 |
pastebot |
"chris" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "caching the slow language queries" (16 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/84 |
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| 08:11 |
chris |
genji, you will need memcached running |
| 08:11 |
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then you can try that out |
| 08:12 |
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on any modules you like, caching anything that is safe to do so |
| 08:12 |
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memcached running and the Memoize::Memcached perl module |
| 08:13 |
paul_p |
hi chris, Genji & al |
| 08:13 |
pastebot |
"chris" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "caching the slow language queries - with hardcoded values" (16 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/85 |
| 08:13 |
chris |
hiya paul_p |
| 08:16 |
Ropuch |
Hi pastebot |
| 08:16 |
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um |
| 08:16 |
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hi paul_p ;> |
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| 08:16 |
Genji |
what file is this from, Chris? |
| 08:16 |
chris |
C4/Languages.pm |
| 08:17 |
Genji |
How do i work out whats not good to cache? |
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chris |
http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]=C4/Languages.pm; |
| 08:18 |
kf |
good morning #koha |
| 08:18 |
chris |
(i simplified it from here ) |
| 08:18 |
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(took out the sysprefs) |
| 08:18 |
imp |
moinen kf :) |
| 08:18 |
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+s |
| 08:18 |
kf |
morning chris and imp |
| 08:18 |
chris |
those three subroutines are fine to cache |
| 08:19 |
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the 2nd param is seconds |
| 08:19 |
Genji |
Hmm... I could get the git, then find xarg grep the memcaches, then duplicate the changes accordingly, in 3.0? |
| 08:19 |
chris |
you could, or you could just take that paste, and put it in the files you want caching whatever subroutines you want |
| 08:20 |
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its only in C4/Languages in 3.2 because it is bar far the slowest |
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and every single page uses it |
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by far even |
| 08:20 |
Genji |
Ah. |
| 08:20 |
chris |
hi kf |
| 08:20 |
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actually i think one other module |
| 08:20 |
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grep "memoize" in master |
| 08:20 |
Genji |
What is not safe to cache? |
| 08:21 |
chris |
anything that changes |
| 08:21 |
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ie, dont cache a borrowers issues |
| 08:22 |
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C4/Biblio.pm: memoize_memcached( 'GetMarcStructure', memcached => $memcached, expire_time => 600 ); |
| 08:22 |
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another one that is safe |
| 08:23 |
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(ie things that change very rarely) |
| 08:24 |
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caching the config is good too |
| 08:25 |
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id actually cache the config for hours |
| 08:25 |
* Genji |
nods. "All these system pref calls, using dumpYAML and LoadYAML? |
| 08:25 |
chris |
you pretty much never change the koha-conf.xml |
| 08:25 |
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and if you ever do, it will be at the command line |
| 08:26 |
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so you can just restart memcached at the same time to clear the cache |
| 08:26 |
Genji |
Hmm... is there a method of forcing memcache to take a fresh version? |
| 08:26 |
chris |
and parsing that xml is slow |
| 08:26 |
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it will take whatever version you give it |
| 08:26 |
Genji |
YAML parses the koha-conf.xml? |
| 08:26 |
chris |
no need to force it |
| 08:27 |
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but knowing it has changed from within koha .. pretty much impossible |
| 08:27 |
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in 3.0 sys pref calls are just db lookups, no point caching those |
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Genji |
5.81 0.150 0.150 9785 0.0000 0.0000 DBI::st::execute |
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Genji |
Might be a good idea to take the call count down abit. |
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CGI1985 |
plz solve my prob |
| 08:29 |
chris |
well for most of those the overhead of the cache is slower than the lookup |
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caching slow queries is the win, caching fast ones (like the syspref ones) is actually slow |
| 08:30 |
CGI1985 |
etc/ |
| 08:31 |
Genji |
CGI1985: okay, we can try.. but not promising miracles. |
| 08:31 |
CGI1985 |
this is not working /etc/perl/CPAN/Config.pm initialized |
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chris |
that isnt a command |
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CGI1985 |
Genji: Thank you |
| 08:31 |
chris |
what command are you actually running CGI1985 ? |
| 08:31 |
Genji |
think you might be trying to configure CPAN? |
| 08:31 |
CGI1985 |
Yeah |
| 08:32 |
chris |
Genji: all that yaml stuff is actually C4::Auth the session management, it serialises the session using yaml |
| 08:32 |
Genji |
chris: serializes the session? |
| 08:32 |
CGI1985 |
http://pastebin.org/62063 |
| 08:32 |
chris |
Genji: you know what serialising objects is? |
| 08:33 |
Genji |
Uh... no. |
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CGI1985 |
Genji: above is taken from the documentation |
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chris |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serialization |
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CGI1985: so you answer yes at the prompt? |
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ie you ran |
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sudo cpan Algorithm::CheckDigits SMS::Send HTTP::OAI |
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Genji |
so, YAML is an unavoidable 'hotspot'? can't cache it? |
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chris |
no |
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CGI1985 |
wht a hell! why is my IRC going offline after some time |
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chris: wht should I do? |
| 08:40 |
Genji |
okay.... is there many method of seeing what calls st::execute 9000 odd times? |
| 08:40 |
chris |
CGI1985: run |
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sudo cpan Algorithm::CheckDigits SMS::Send HTTP::OAI |
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thats all |
| 08:41 |
CGI1985 |
I ran this |
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then? |
| 08:41 |
chris |
thats it |
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if it installed the modules |
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CGI1985 |
yes it installed |
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chris |
then its done |
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CGI1985 |
ok so I dont need to initialize it? |
| 08:42 |
chris |
not if it installed the modules no |
| 08:43 |
CGI1985 |
ok couple of thanks |
| 08:43 |
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I still need u to finish the koha |
| 08:44 |
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It show that that -f is invalid |
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$ sudo -u ${KOHA_USER} zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml |
| 08:45 |
Ropuch^ |
sudo -u koha zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml |
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Susan-dev |
Good day everyone |
| 08:46 |
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I have a question that hopefully someone can answer. |
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I have Koha 3.0, and everything works fine before, when I import marc record/add items |
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It displays in the search, but I noticed THIS only works when I use the "DDC" classification,rather than LLC |
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If I pick the Library of congress classification, and the itemcallnumber points to the LLC call number |
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it no longer returns any results on the search |
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and I am unsure of where to go from here..or what to search for.. |
| 08:47 |
chris |
using zebra or nozebra? |
| 08:47 |
Genji |
might be a zebra misconfig. |
| 08:47 |
Susan-dev |
zebra |
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zebra |
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CGI1985 |
ropuch: sudo -u koha zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xmlsudo: no passwd entry for koha! |
| 08:47 |
* Genji |
has had alot of fun with zebra Voodoo. |
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chris |
and you reindexed after you changed it it LLC ? |
| 08:48 |
Susan-dev |
it auto indexes |
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automaically I have it in a crontab |
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root crontab |
| 08:49 |
Genji |
ahh |
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theres the problem |
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Susan-dev |
and If i change it back to dewy and dewy call number, it works again |
| 08:49 |
chris |
that only indexes changed things |
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it doesnt reindex everything |
| 08:49 |
Genji |
never do rebuild as root |
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always as the zebra user. |
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and yes, it sounds like it might want a complete rebuild... -r |
| 08:50 |
Susan-dev |
let me see if I have the -r in the crontab |
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give me a minute please |
| 08:50 |
Genji |
uhh... still doing it with the wrong user... |
| 08:50 |
chris |
you definitely dont want -r in the crontab |
| 08:50 |
Susan-dev |
Iok Genji, but root should have access to everything..let me just check the crontab..I will change it to zebra user after thats done :) |
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please bear with me |
| 08:51 |
chris |
dont change the crontab |
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you dont want to rebuild the index everytime |
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just after you make a change like that, something that effects every record |
| 08:52 |
Susan-dev |
...um so what do I do then? |
| 08:52 |
CGI1985 |
? |
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wht is its meaning 'sudo: no password entry fo koha' |
| 08:52 |
Genji |
Okay,... take zebra rebuild, out of the crontab. |
| 08:52 |
chris |
or just leave it there |
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and run it from the commandline one time |
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* chris |
has to go now, good luck |
| 08:53 |
* Genji |
hmms... "Night Chris" |
| 08:53 |
Susan-dev |
good night chris |
| 08:53 |
Genji |
Chris is right, Susan.. but i wonldn't leave it running in root crontab. |
| 08:54 |
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Zebraidx and the zebra server won't have access to the exported records, if you run reindexing as root. |
| 08:54 |
Susan-dev |
my stupid server stopped working |
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.....sorry for beign slow hehe |
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so how come it worked Genji |
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when I was doing Dewy |
| 08:55 |
Genji |
You might of rebuilt when it was in the zebra user. |
| 08:55 |
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Or entering it in, or marc importing, did it as the zebra user. |
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Susan-dev |
All I did was marc import |
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* Genji |
nods. |
| 08:56 |
Susan-dev |
and it was automatically indexing it behind the scenes |
| 08:56 |
* Genji |
nods. "And zebraqueue is running as the zebra user. |
| 08:56 |
Susan-dev |
I think all run as root |
| 08:57 |
Genji |
oh.... not good. |
| 08:58 |
Susan-dev |
so what I have in my crontab |
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every five minutes |
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* Genji |
nods. "Cut and paste that line. |
| 08:58 |
Susan-dev |
zebraidx -c /etc/koha/zebradb/zebra-authorities-dom.cfg -g iso2709 -d authorities |
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init |
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and then similar one for zebra-biblios |
| 08:59 |
Genji |
init, does a complete rebuild. |
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definately not a good idea to do as root. |
| 08:59 |
Susan-dev |
then rebuild)zebra -b -a |
| 08:59 |
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I guess without the -r |
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which chris said is needed. I will try -r to see what happenes |
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but a question, it is ok to have the init for authorities and biblios on this crontab |
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or no |
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I understand the user issue, but as a process, is it ok? |
| 09:01 |
Genji |
init is rebuilding.. its basically the same as -r in rebuild_zebra ... so not a good idea. |
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Hmm.... |
| 09:03 |
Susan-dev |
sory |
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| 09:03 |
Susan-dev |
it is taking me 1 minute to type each letter on my vmware server |
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-_- |
| 09:03 |
Genji |
Eek. |
| 09:04 |
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MAybe you have a task soaking up cpu time. |
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Oh, your irc session is running on this VMWare server? |
| 09:04 |
Susan-dev |
no no |
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my irc is outside |
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but i am trying to put commands on my vmware server |
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by the way what time is it wher eyou are? I don't want to keep you awake |
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though I would sure love the help |
| 09:05 |
Genji |
Ah okay, run the command 'top' and tell me whats the top of the list. |
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Genji |
meh, its only 10pm |
| 09:05 |
imp |
10am here ;) |
| 09:05 |
Susan-dev |
it says xorg |
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perl |
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zebraqueue |
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stuff like that.. :) |
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Genji |
hrm. how much % is perl and zebraqueue taking up? |
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Susan-dev |
by the way..I think the -r worked |
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so you are saying this -r only do it if I make a big change like this |
| 09:08 |
* Genji |
nods. "Generally, -r isnt necessary every five minutes." |
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Susan-dev |
how about the init one |
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when should I do them?? |
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so I can change the time |
| 09:09 |
Genji |
take out the init |
| 09:09 |
Susan-dev |
completly?? |
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*Scared* everything might not work again... |
| 09:09 |
Genji |
just the 'init' |
| 09:09 |
Susan-dev |
ok will do |
| 09:10 |
Genji |
the word init, deletes the zebra db each time it indexs. |
| 09:10 |
Susan-dev |
oh i see, just the init word |
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the rest of the command leave it |
| 09:10 |
Genji |
which will take alot longer than updating. |
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And you need to change the command from root user to the zebra user... which is inside the zebra config file. |
| 09:11 |
Susan-dev |
zebra config file?? |
| 09:11 |
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where do I find that |
| 09:12 |
Genji |
oh.. maybe koha config file will give you what you want too. |
| 09:12 |
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koha-conf.xml |
| 09:13 |
Susan-dev |
ok I opened the file |
| 09:13 |
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the user under biblioserver is koha koha |
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| 09:14 |
Genji |
right. okay. so, copy the necessary cron lines from the root cron to the koha cron (without the init) and then delete the cron entries you copied, from the root cron. |
| 09:14 |
Susan-dev |
ok, thanks Genji :) I am just glad the -r is ok |
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Susan-dev |
hehe |
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nicomo_ is now known as nicomo |
| 09:16 |
Genji |
Let me know when youve done hte cron thing, your not done yet. |
| 09:16 |
Susan-dev |
why am i not done? hehe |
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the problem is..the server is run as root |
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and the koha folder is owned by root |
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and zebra files are owned by root |
| 09:17 |
Genji |
Need to repair the damage done due to reindexing as root |
| 09:17 |
Susan-dev |
having it be owned by koha before was annoying me |
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:( |
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Genji |
oh! |
| 09:17 |
Susan-dev |
I can't change it on this machine Genji, because this is Production |
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Test is screwed up, I have to make a clone of prod and replace test |
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then I can reset the owners |
| 09:17 |
Genji |
oh! |
| 09:17 |
Susan-dev |
you know what I mean? |
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brb |
| 09:18 |
Genji |
Not a good idea to run things on production machines as root... but oh well. |
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doublechecking, do ' ps aux | grep 'zebra' ' |
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Susan-dev |
OK let me do that now |
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ok what shoudl I list? |
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there is koha-zebra-ctl.koha daemon runnig under koha user |
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koha-zebrauqueue-ctl-koha running under user koha |
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and perl -I /usr/share/koha/bin/zebraqueue_daemon under koha user |
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me is confused, I thought I am running from root cron |
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maybe there is another cron.. |
| 09:27 |
Genji |
nope. |
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those are running as they should be. |
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you definately need to move yor reindexing from the root cron to the koha cron. |
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Genji |
and repair the permissions. |
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Genji |
and then do a complete rebuild. |
| 09:28 |
Susan-dev |
ok, I will do my best..though I need a test machine to make those changes...finish them then move to prod |
| 09:28 |
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right now i am on PROD directly |
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hehe |
| 09:29 |
Genji |
Ya.. not a good idea. |
| 09:29 |
Susan-dev |
by the way, do you what differences exist between koha 3 and 3.02 |
| 09:29 |
Genji |
Unknown. I myself am working with a Saudi Arabian library, whos afraid to upgrade to newer versions. |
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They're stuck on Koha 3.0rc1 .. or in other words, Koha 3.0 final. |
| 09:30 |
Susan-dev |
I am in the UAE and on top of all this, I have to upgrade koha to that...which meanas I have to do svn vendor branches and compare our customizations with 3.02 code |
| 09:30 |
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aish hehe |
| 09:30 |
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anyways, thanks for you time. Appreciate it :D |
| 09:31 |
Genji |
Wow, we have similar challenges. |
| 09:31 |
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Sounds like you have more devel people than just you? |
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Susan-dev |
nope |
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only me :) |
| 09:32 |
Genji |
Yet your using svn internally, interesting.. |
| 09:33 |
Susan-dev |
I worked in Canada, and I am used to SVN, and I have to track my changes |
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1 person can also make mistakes :) |
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but now in the UAE, probably not a lot of people use svn |
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hehe |
| 09:33 |
* Genji |
is also developing solo. "Didn't do any versioning yet, because boss said the time spent, might not be worth it." |
| 09:34 |
Susan-dev |
I actually have to make time out of nothing...I have many people breathing down my neck, and not on just koha |
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on opesis , open erp |
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and internal joomla websites |
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I should be given a raise hehe |
| 09:35 |
Genji |
so, you work X hours, but bill less than X hours? |
| 09:36 |
Susan-dev |
no I am a full time employee here, I work in Abu dhabi |
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not internationally |
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its 1:30 PM here |
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I should do contracting work, probably better right? |
| 09:37 |
Genji |
Eh, prehaps not. Then you'd have to deal with your own tax returns? |
| 09:37 |
Susan-dev |
no taxes here :) |
| 09:38 |
Genji |
No taxes in UAE? |
| 09:38 |
Susan-dev |
no |
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none |
| 09:38 |
Genji |
All your money? King gets nothing? |
| 09:38 |
Susan-dev |
King has billions |
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why should he care for taxes? |
| 09:39 |
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Abu dhabi has oil |
| 09:39 |
Genji |
Wow... |
| 09:39 |
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Whens the next flight? :) |
| 09:39 |
Susan-dev |
:) |
| 09:39 |
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hope the US doesn't try and make war again in hopes of finding weapons of massive destruction |
| 09:40 |
Genji |
Anyway, hmm.... So, you have modded koha 3.0 for arabic? |
| 09:40 |
Susan-dev |
no, english |
| 09:41 |
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In here, they speak mostly english to communicate between each other |
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all organizations , english is a must |
| 09:41 |
Genji |
Ah. Interesting. |
| 09:41 |
Susan-dev |
and also my apologies for saying this term, but there are more "white" people here, than arabs....no offence intended! |
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but alot of caucasians come here for the money |
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because they get paid maybe 3x or 4x the typical arab here |
| 09:42 |
Genji |
So, even though Saudi Arabia and UAE have common cultural base, sounds like the language frequency is different? |
| 09:42 |
Susan-dev |
or indian or paki or philipino |
| 09:42 |
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Abu dhabi is racist hehehe |
| 09:42 |
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Saudi is different absolutly. Its very radical |
| 09:42 |
Genji |
The library im working for, most of the interface is Arabic. |
| 09:43 |
Susan-dev |
From what I know...not many are educated to know english very well. Most of the UAE nationals are sent internationally for studies |
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a western degree is valued more here than other degrees |
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sorry Genji, I have to go. Thanks alot for your patience and help! :) |
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and hope you learned a bit more about the UAE :) hehe |
| 09:44 |
Genji |
Of course, come back when you need to. |
| 09:44 |
Susan-dev |
maybe you might come for work, but after the economy settles |
| 09:44 |
Genji |
You will definately need to repair things. |
| 09:45 |
Susan-dev |
I will do that |
| 09:45 |
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:) |
| 09:45 |
Genji |
So, clone, and come back, eh? |
| 09:46 |
Susan-dev |
Once our system administrator comes back from his long holiday |
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Dec 22 :) |
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so not today :( |
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Good night, I am off :) |
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Thanks again |
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Genji |
Wow, that was interesting. |
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Susan-dev |
Hi everyone, anyone familiar why I get duplicate marc records. Even though Its just one marc record, but I clicked the "Save" button mutliple times |
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I even tried re-indexing and rebuilding zebra |
| 10:20 |
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still get 3 duplicate records, 2 of - items, and 1 with 1 item |
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but its the same marc record! |
| 10:34 |
kf |
which version of koha do you use Susan-dev? |
| 10:36 |
Susan-dev |
koha 3.0 |
| 10:38 |
Ropuch^ |
Hi kf [; |
| 10:38 |
kf |
hi Ropuch^ |
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3.0.0? or 3.0.x? |
| 10:39 |
Susan-dev |
no just 3.0 |
| 10:39 |
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ummm I only know chown koha /directory |
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how do I make it owned by group |
| 10:39 |
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sorry wrong window :) |
| 10:42 |
kf |
I think I saw someone reporting an error like this on the mailinglist some time ago |
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but (of course) cant find it right now |
| 10:43 |
Susan-dev |
hehe..I will search the mailing list also, |
| 10:43 |
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Thanks kf :) |
| 10:44 |
kf |
perhaps its just a problem with zebra? you could try rebuilding your index |
| 10:45 |
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http://spedr.com/2o9v8 |
| 10:46 |
Genji |
does koha 3.2 suffer from the marc importer having no visual response when pressing 'Save'? |
| 10:46 |
kf |
when staging files? |
| 10:46 |
Genji |
Thats what Susan-dev's case is. Librarian, not computer savvy, clicked save multiple times. |
| 10:46 |
Susan-dev |
no |
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its fine, save just stays on the same page |
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if I click it |
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I did a complete rebuild with -r option |
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and it still gives me duplicate records |
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and I don't know why |
| 10:47 |
Genji |
As root user? or koha user? |
| 10:47 |
Susan-dev |
if I look at the mysql db it has only 1 marc record representing the culprint |
| 10:47 |
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well honestly I really don't know..when we did ps -ex it says everything is owned by root |
| 10:48 |
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but the reality is the only crontab that has the rebuild functionality is under ROOT |
| 10:48 |
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its a root crontab |
| 10:48 |
kf |
ah sorry |
| 10:48 |
Susan-dev |
so right now I finished doing the /var/lib/koha to be owned by koha:koha |
| 10:48 |
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now I will do rebuild adn see what happens..pray for me :D |
| 10:48 |
Genji |
wait! |
| 10:48 |
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su koha |
| 10:48 |
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first. |
| 10:48 |
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then type this, exactly. |
| 10:49 |
Susan-dev |
ok |
| 10:49 |
Genji |
perl -I/usr/share/koha/lib /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra -b -a -r |
| 10:49 |
Susan-dev |
ok let me try |
| 10:49 |
Genji |
doublecheck its being done under koha. |
| 10:49 |
Susan-dev |
I am user koha |
| 10:50 |
* Genji |
nods. "good." |
| 10:51 |
Susan-dev |
cant find perl script |
| 10:51 |
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i think rebuild_zebra.pl |
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right? |
| 10:52 |
Genji |
woops. |
| 10:52 |
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right. |
| 10:52 |
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good catch. |
| 10:52 |
* Genji |
usually relies on tab completion. |
| 10:52 |
Susan-dev |
ok for biblios |
| 10:52 |
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it says 12 records |
| 10:52 |
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let me see mysql and how many records there are |
| 10:53 |
Genji |
Oh, you just started the database? |
| 10:53 |
Susan-dev |
It does not have a lot of data.. |
| 10:53 |
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its still not used right now |
| 10:54 |
* Genji |
nods. |
| 10:54 |
Susan-dev |
but its stil the only machine thats working properly, thats why I am scared of screwing it up |
| 10:54 |
Genji |
So, did it work? |
| 10:54 |
Susan-dev |
now, let me just check the mysql to see how many actual records are there |
| 10:54 |
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give me a minute, gotta go to webmin |
| 10:55 |
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oko so now narrowed it even more |
| 10:55 |
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its not zebra |
| 10:55 |
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its mysql |
| 10:55 |
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it has 3 records of the MARC record instannce |
| 10:55 |
Genji |
hmm? |
| 10:55 |
Susan-dev |
why does save , STILL save eventhough it exists in the db |
| 10:55 |
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booooo |
| 10:57 |
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you know, let me try with a new record |
| 10:57 |
Genji |
I'd suggest causing save to lock the save button, until the page reloads for the next input, via javascript,,, and just start the db over, since you have only 12 records. |
| 10:57 |
Susan-dev |
and click save on it multiple times |
| 10:57 |
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let me see if that happens or not |
| 10:58 |
Genji |
or have the click cause some feedback to occur... like "Saving Marc record...." |
| 10:58 |
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Via AJAX, or just plain javascript. |
| 10:59 |
Susan-dev |
so I just created a marc record |
| 11:00 |
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clicked save |
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I will not create an item, RATHER i will click the BACK BUTTON |
| 11:00 |
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now click SAVE again |
| 11:01 |
Genji |
why would you do that? |
| 11:01 |
Susan-dev |
oh...it says Duplicate Record suspected |
| 11:01 |
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is this a duplicate ? |
| 11:01 |
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thats promising, I guess the librarian changed something on the record before and thats why it saved multiple instancnes |
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WEll genji, a user always clicks Back :) |
| 11:01 |
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you know never hehehe |
| 11:02 |
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you never nkow.. |
| 11:02 |
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I am getting tired... |
| 11:02 |
Genji |
Hmm.. okay, so the librarian has trouble learning the rules of data entry, don't click back.. |
| 11:02 |
Susan-dev |
oh genji, if you only knew |
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:) |
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yay! :) it works great |
| 11:03 |
Genji |
We fixed it? |
| 11:04 |
Susan-dev |
now the next time I go to the library for training, I will hear, "its useless, its buggy, I want millenium:" |
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-_- |
| 11:04 |
Genji |
.... |
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Just don't pick Liblime Koha. |
| 11:04 |
Susan-dev |
.....wait actually |
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how did it index this new marc record |
| 11:04 |
Genji |
Promise me, don't got to Liblime Enterprise Koha. |
| 11:04 |
Susan-dev |
I commented out the root crontab |
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.....>-<!! |
| 11:04 |
Genji |
zebra-queue indexed it. |
| 11:05 |
Susan-dev |
I am confused genji..don't I have to do rebuild zebra???? |
| 11:05 |
Genji |
nope. |
| 11:05 |
Susan-dev |
for something to be returned to be on the result page?? |
| 11:05 |
Genji |
hardly ever. |
| 11:05 |
Susan-dev |
where is this zebra-queue running |
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and who is running it?? |
| 11:05 |
Genji |
type: |
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ps aux | grep 'zebra' |
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its run as a daemon, started in init.d |
| 11:06 |
Susan-dev |
...ummm....oh right I remember I did that step along time ago |
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when I first installed koha |
| 11:06 |
Genji |
Its created to watch a table called zebraqueue, for updates. |
| 11:07 |
Susan-dev |
ok, so now what do I need in my nice crontab |
| 11:07 |
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the fines? the overdues? and what else? |
| 11:07 |
Genji |
I believe this stuff: |
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http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]elopment:cronjobs |
| 11:08 |
Susan-dev |
ok thats perfect |
| 11:08 |
kf |
its recommended to use rebuild_zebra, not zebra_queue |
| 11:08 |
Genji |
edit it to suit. And koha crons should be running as koha. |
| 11:09 |
Susan-dev |
ok, koha it is :) Thanks genji |
| 11:09 |
* Genji |
nods. "For big libraries that have more than 30 transactions a second... use zebra_rebuild, without the -r |
| 11:09 |
kf |
ah sorry :) |
| 11:09 |
Genji |
kf: its a second right? |
| 11:09 |
Susan-dev |
we have close to 3000 books |
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so only -a -b |
| 11:10 |
kf |
Genji: a second? |
| 11:10 |
* Genji |
nods. "only -a -b" |
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| 11:10 |
Genji |
Or is it -z.... one second. |
| 11:10 |
greenmang0 |
can anybody tell me how to configure zebra for kete?? |
| 11:11 |
Susan-dev |
You have a pm Genji. -z does not work for me.. |
| 11:11 |
kf |
only -a -b will index all records - -z will only index updated from zebra_queue table as far as I know |
| 11:11 |
Genji |
ah Susan-dev.. you've tried -z before huh? |
| 11:11 |
Susan-dev |
before yes |
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my zebra does not like it |
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hehe |
| 11:12 |
Genji |
... Like it, before or after the user change? |
| 11:12 |
Susan-dev |
no I think it does not like the option.. |
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can't remember.. |
| 11:12 |
Genji |
Try it now, as koha. |
| 11:12 |
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rebuild_zebra -b -a -z |
| 11:12 |
Susan-dev |
ok |
| 11:12 |
greenmang0 |
anybody??? with kete??? |
| 11:13 |
Susan-dev |
sorry greenmang, for me I don't know about kete :) |
| 11:13 |
greenmang0 |
Susan-dev: i am /me |
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greenmang0: |
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:D |
| 11:15 |
Susan-dev |
- z works fine |
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it says 0 records exported on both |
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because there are no new recorsd |
| 11:16 |
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Thanks everyone :) |
| 11:16 |
Genji |
yup. You haven't changed anything recently. |
| 11:16 |
greenmang0 |
Genji: any experience with kete? |
| 11:16 |
Genji |
so, put rebuild_zebra -b -a -z inside koha's crontab, maybe every 5 minutes. |
| 11:16 |
Susan-dev |
I will.. |
| 11:17 |
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I will follow that crontab example you sent. Thanks for your help. |
| 11:17 |
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Appreciate it |
| 11:17 |
Genji |
And, I think..... disable zebra-queue.. |
| 11:17 |
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since -b -a -z is doing its job. |
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kf: what you think? |
| 11:17 |
greenmang0 |
kf: ever tried kete? |
| 11:18 |
Susan-dev |
Will do. Ok I am off for now, Thanks alot Genji. Hvae a good night. I hope you find someone to help you greenmang, try the koha dev mailing list |
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:) Best to everyone, |
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greenmang0 |
anybody here who can help me with kete? |
| 11:22 |
kf |
greenmang0: i have no experience with kete |
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Genji: I think it sounds right |
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greenmang0 |
kf: ok :( |
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kf |
greenmang0: I think its mainly used in nz |
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greenmang0: they are all sleeping now, so mailing list is a good suggestion, you will reach more people there too |
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kf |
lunch |
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Ropuch^ |
Hello nengard |
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nengard |
howdy Ropuch |
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Ropuch |
nengard: you still looking for authorities to import? |
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nengard |
yup |
| 13:16 |
Ropuch |
nengard: how many do you want? ;> |
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I can export some authorities for you (in polish only) |
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nengard |
Ropuch, it's for the English version of the manual - so I kind of need some English authorities - which is why I was using the LOC records - which you can export - but for some reason they wouldn't import |
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Ropuch |
nengard: I can import them with no problem |
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(Loc auth) |
| 13:21 |
nengard |
which file type did you export? |
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I'll try again |
| 13:21 |
Ropuch |
MARC(UNICODE/UTF8) |
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./bulkauthimport.pl -file ~/Pobrane/Pwebrecon.cg |
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./bulkauthimport.pl -file ~/Pobrane/Pwebrecon.cgi |
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nengard |
nengard debian:~/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools$ perl bulkauthimport.pl -file /Users/nengard/Desktop/Pwebrecon\(2\).cgi |
| 13:24 |
Ropuch |
rebuild zebra and it's in |
| 13:24 |
nengard |
0 MARC record done in 0.000335931777954102 seconds |
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kf |
rename the file to mrc |
| 13:24 |
nengard |
it says zero |
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Ropuch |
nengard: add -v 2 at the ond of command |
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nengard: can you pint me to the authority you're trying to import? |
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*point |
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nengard |
nengarddebian:~/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools$ perl bulkauthimport.pl -file /Users/nengard/Desktop/Pwebrecon\(2\).mrc -v |
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0 MARC record done in 3.09944152832031e-06 seconds |
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I'm importing my own authority record :) |
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search for Nicole Engard |
| 13:26 |
kf |
thats cool |
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hm, it looks ok for me |
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we import auth-records into koha nightly |
| 13:28 |
jwagner |
Has anyone written an interface from the staff client to authority import yet? |
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It's really needed, I think. |
| 13:29 |
kf |
jwagner: we use command line tools, its an automated process, importing records from our union catalog every night |
| 13:30 |
nengard |
jwagner - nope - but i'd love to see it |
| 13:30 |
jwagner |
May have to do something about that... |
| 13:33 |
nengard |
:) |
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| 13:45 |
nengard |
owen - read the koha list - ata has a set of sample authorities you can import (you were asking for that right?) |
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owen |
Oh cool, hadn't made it through my mail yet |
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hdl_laptop |
nengard: bulkmarcimport in 3.2 has -a option to import authorities |
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nengard |
hdl you rock!! Thank you - off to give that a whirl |
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wait - where does the -a go? |
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misc/migration_tools/bulkauthimport.pl -file /Users/nengard/Desktop/Samples/authority/personalname/all.mrc -a |
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? |
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I get Unknown option: a |
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magnusenger |
nengard: misc/migration_tools/bulk*MARC*import.pl, not misc/migration_tools/bulkauthimport.pl ? |
| 13:59 |
owen |
bulkmarcimport.pl -a is now preferable to bulkauthimport.pl? |
| 13:59 |
nengard |
magnusenger - nope: |
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nengarddebian:~/kohaclone$ misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl -file /Users/nengard/Desktop/Samples/authority/personalname/all.mrc -a |
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0 MARC records done in 0.000648975372314453 seconds |
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jdavidb |
Gee, can the script be any more precise on that time, please? Imma file a bug report on that. |
| 14:01 |
owen |
jdavidb: Someone traveling back in time to prevent themselves from importing authority records would need accurate records of the event |
| 14:01 |
jdavidb |
Exactly! Precision is very important! |
| 14:02 |
magnusenger |
nengard: how about pastebin'ing the authority, perhaps there's something wrong with it? |
| 14:02 |
nengard |
magnusenger - i can do that - but i've tried with several - one from LOC, one from someone else using Koha and then the batch from ata |
| 14:02 |
magnusenger |
ok, that's probably not it then... |
| 14:03 |
nengard |
here's one: http://koha.pastebin.com/m33bc0f00 |
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one i need to figure out how to get them to update |
| 14:04 |
magnusenger |
nengard: tried the "-v 2" option to bulkmarcimport.pl? |
| 14:04 |
nengard |
will do now |
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nengarddebian:~/kohaclone$ misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl -file /Users/nengard/Desktop/Samples/authority/personalname/all.mrc -v 2 |
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Characteristic MARC flavour: MARC21 |
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0 MARC records done in 0.00573086738586426 seconds |
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jdavidb |
Took quite a bit longer to do nothing that time. |
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nengard |
so frustrating - i wish there was an error message of sorts - something that would help me |
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hdl_laptop |
owen: I think so. |
| 14:06 |
jwagner |
nengard, do you have another system running a different (earlier) version of head? And do the records import OK there? |
| 14:07 |
nengard |
i don't have a diff system |
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only the one :( |
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anyone else have a problem with the current version of head? |
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and marc21? |
| 14:13 |
kf |
I know we can import authorities, using 3.01.00.061 |
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but I have not test system for current head yet |
| 14:18 |
magnusenger |
nengard: i have a current test (with some additions for normarc) where importing with bulkmarcimport.pl works fine |
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nengard: are you sure you are feeding it the right file? giving it a non-existing file seems to result in "0 MARC records done", not an error... |
| 14:20 |
nengard |
i have no authorities loaded - and i have gotten that error everytime - so i'm not sure how i could be loading dups |
| 14:20 |
Ropuch |
I have tested bulkauthimport on plain install of 3.2 head |
| 14:21 |
veryinky_ |
kohadocs.org is a bit out of date. version 2.2 |
| 14:22 |
magnusenger |
nengard: i have tried bulkmarcimport.pl'ing the same file several times now and i get "1 MARC records done" each time, nothing about duplicates |
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nengard: perl /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl -file doesntexist -v 1 gives me "0 MARC records done in 0.0120010375976562 seconds" |
| 14:25 |
nengard |
hmmmm |
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hang on - i'll ftp file to the server and try again |
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OH MY!! |
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nengarddebian:~/kohaclone$ misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl -file all.mrc -a |
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........ |
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8 MARC records done in 0.115814924240112 seconds |
| 14:27 |
veryinky_ |
I'm trying to add a new patron, version 3.0.4, in the staff client, I click on Patrons, then I'm in Koha > Patrons, but clicking on +New does nothing. |
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hdl_laptop |
nengard: cool. |
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magnusenger: a simple deduplication can be done with latest bulkmarcimport. |
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-match parameter |
| 14:29 |
magnusenger |
hdl_laptop: nice! |
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hdl_laptop |
Should be improved and take C4::Matcher rule |
| 14:29 |
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But better than nothing |
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| 14:30 |
owen |
veryinky_: Yes, kohadocs.org isn't current |
| 14:31 |
nengard |
the manual on koha.org is a bit better -but also not up to date |
| 14:31 |
veryinky_ |
Hrm. I can add vendors, I can add books, I can add marc files. But the (+New v) vendor button doesn't work. |
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er, patron button that is |
| 14:31 |
nengard |
a working copy of the manual can be found here: http://git.biblibre.com/cgi-bi[…]ohadocs;a=summary |
| 14:32 |
veryinky_ |
I could add patrons back in 3.0.0 and 3.0.2 |
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So this is frustrating. |
| 14:33 |
kf |
verinky: have you defined borrower categories? |
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* veryinky_ |
nods. I was using http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.0/patrons |
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| 14:33 |
kf |
ah, should scroll down first |
| 14:34 |
veryinky_ |
I'm trying to create an admin acount for my boss, didn't think he would be a borrower, will make some categories now. |
| 14:35 |
kf |
veryinky_: new button will give you a pull down of your categories - create a category for staff for another admin account |
| 14:36 |
nengard |
okay all - can you please tell me what command to use to rebuild zebra - I have to be doing something wrong ... . |
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i'm just not lucky today at all |
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jdavidb |
rebuild_zebra.pl -r -w -a -b -v is what I usually use. |
| 14:36 |
veryinky_ |
kf, thanks. That was the problem. I hadn't created any borrower categories. |
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* veryinky_ |
had created some in the previous install. To be honest though, I hadn't associated staff with borrowers or patrons. |
| 14:43 |
kf |
veryinky_: for staff patrons you must set permissions in the next step, so they can log into the staff interface |
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* veryinky_ |
nods. Did that. Was just annoyed at myself for skipping a step. I do that too often. |
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nengard |
thanks jdavidb - seems to be working |
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jdavidb |
yabetcha. :) |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 1.6�C (7:00 AM PST on December 08, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Rising). |
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kf |
hi brendan |
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brendan |
hi kf |
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kf |
brendan: I offered paul_p (at least I think it was him) to work on a MARC21 xslt for intranet - but had no time yet :( |
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brendan |
kf great |
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I haven't done anything yet either :) |
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kf |
brendan: not sure when I will have time to do it, so I would be happy if you want to work on it |
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brendan |
ok I may poke at it during the week and will send any work I get done |
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kf |
brendan: I wanted to start with opac xslt, jwagner sent some patches for this file, not sure what went into head yet |
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jwagner |
kf, I don't know what might be in the latest head (haven't updated to it yet). From my list, Bug 3750 and Bug 3877 are XSLT-related patches that hadn't made it into head as of a couple of weeks ago. I think the rest of my XSLT stuff was already in head. |
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munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3750 enhancement, P5, ---, jwagnerptfs.com, ASSIGNED, Modify XSLT to display subfield n of 111/711 and remove period after 110/710 |
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04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3877 was not found. |
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jwagner |
Sorry, Bug 3788 -- I'm dyslexic with numbers sometimes. |
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munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3788 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jmfliblime.com, NEW, XSLT does not obey viewISBD syspref |
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jwagner |
There's another patch I may do -- for corporate authors, there appears to be no punctuation or separation between subfields in the same entry. For example, 110 or 710 subfield a and subfield b run together. |
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kf |
jwagner: thx :) |
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| 15:46 |
owen |
Interesting... A new "delete all items" menu item on the staff client biblio view menu |
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Woe to he who deletes a biblio which is in his cart |
| 15:50 |
kf |
can someone explain what keyword-to-marc-mapping does? |
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its a new 3.2 features, but not sure how this works |
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hdl_laptop |
kf it is also in 3.0 |
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kf |
oh, never seen that - perhaps we skipped this feature? went from 3.0 to 3.1 |
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hdl_laptop |
It fixed the way subtitles are managed |
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and implements a kind of extended attribute type for records. |
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kf |
not sure I understand it |
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hdl_laptop |
If you need to display or name a particuliar set of tags/subfields, in UNIMARC 200$e for subtitles, |
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and want to name it subtitle |
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then you can use that so that it is desiplayed in detail view even though you are not using XSLT |
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kf |
only for UNIMARC? |
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thx hdl_laptop |
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hdl_laptop |
would also work for MARC21. you can add whatever you want |
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owen++ for the Cart |
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kf |
yes, owen++ :) |
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wizzyrea |
anyone: objections to making transit slip open/print/close? |
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(i know, this really ought to be a syspref) |
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(the circ slip already does it |
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* owen |
is neutral, not being a user of transit slips |
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jwagner |
wizzyrea, I think it would be great if all the slips had the option to print completely automatically -- no manual intervention (even a click) required. Right now, you still have to click on the OK button to print. Staff hate that. But it should be an option, because some people will want to see the slip first. |
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kf |
bye #koha |
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wizzyrea |
jwagner: well, actually |
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owen |
Librarians have a thing about not wanting to click stuff |
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wizzyrea |
the automatic print depends on the configuration of firefox |
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this just keeps you from having to close the window |
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yourself |
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owen |
Librarians also have a thing about not knowing how to use a keyboard |
| 16:42 |
wizzyrea |
lol |
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has anybody had complaints about the method applied to the circ receipts? |
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(I'm thinking of doing the same for the transit slips) |
| 16:56 |
owen |
Has someone already wished to be able to hook the results of a guided report to the new batch modification tool? |
| 16:59 |
wizzyrea |
I wonder if anyone knows the answer to this question: I know the SIP server logic 1. Checks items in 2. notices and can print slips for holds but does it 3. confirm the holds? |
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or does a human still have to do step 3? |
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(it's snowing and I don't want to drive half an hour to test this theory) |
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| 17:36 |
rhcl_in_an_out |
rpg was my very first programming class. Big mistake. All I remember is that you write it from right to left and it's very structured. |
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Wonder if you could port Koha to RPG? |
| 17:38 |
Ropuch |
Maybe he was talking about some kind of role-playing? |
| 17:39 |
rhcl_in_an_out |
Yea, I know. I just took off on the RPG part. :) |
| 17:39 |
jdavidb |
now, there are heretics, and there is rhcl_in_an_out. |
| 17:39 |
* veryinky_ |
hehs. Surprisingly enough, you're not the first to do a report program generator joke. |
| 17:39 |
rhcl_in_an_out |
According to wikipedia, RPG is still "popular" on IBM mainframes. |
| 17:40 |
jdavidb |
If you're gonna write it in a difficult language, use COBOL. Or Fortran, even. |
| 17:40 |
* veryinky_ |
did study RPG, COBOL, REXX, and some other stuff back in college. |
| 17:40 |
rhcl_in_an_out |
I still think Ada would be the best alternative port. |
| 17:40 |
jdavidb |
or Lisp, even: http://xkcd.com/224/ |
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I started out with Pascal, and learned a half-dozen others in college--was the lab instructor for Fortran, COBOL, and Modula-2, one term--the *same* term. |
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rhcl_in_an_out |
funy link |
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* jdavidb |
<3 XKCD. |
| 17:43 |
veryinky_ |
I remember and hate pascal. |
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Once tried to port a pascal project into c++. Gave up half way. |
| 17:43 |
rhcl_in_an_out |
My Pascal teacher was Armenian--first day he had just gotten back from a protest march at Washington DC - capitol. But he was a good teacher and Pascal didn't seem that hard. |
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first day of class, I mean |
| 17:44 |
jdavidb |
Pascal is very good for teaching structure. If you learn to do something in Pascal, you can eventually do it in almost any other language, and it'll be very maintainable. |
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Modula-2 was a teaching language that added to Pascal in some useful ways, but it never caught on. |
| 17:45 |
veryinky_ |
I learned how to program using turboC |
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2.0 |
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Ropuch |
atari basic & logo ;-P |
| 17:45 |
rhcl_in_an_out |
Yea, I remember Modula-2 being highly regarded when it was introduced. Wonder why it never became more popular? |
| 17:46 |
jdavidb |
I started out on the VIC-20, but I had programmed Atari 2600 BASIC a little before that. |
| 17:46 |
rhcl_in_an_out |
Caldo de Pollo for lunch.... |
| 17:46 |
jdavidb |
rhcl: It wasn't object-oriented, and that's just before OO programming came out. By the time Modula-2 would have gotten a good foothold, OOP was more-important. |
| 17:46 |
veryinky_ |
I think the first thing I wrote was a lemonaid stand game, from a magazine tutorial. |
| 17:47 |
rhcl_in_an_out |
oh yes, typing in code published in magazines... |
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* jdavidb |
did that a lot. |
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veryinky_ |
I was 8. :| |
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nengard |
whew - i'm soo tired now - just finished a 2 hour demo - first time speaking that much since getting the sinus infection .. now no more talking for the rest of today :) |
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off to make something soothing for lunch :) |
| 17:55 |
veryinky_ |
In any event, woke up this morning from a dream about a space based rpg which didn't exist. So I'm thinking about that instead of actual work. |
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wizzyrea |
bleh, we were discussing CAS yesterday, I just updated and I apparently need it, which module do I install? |
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i can't find it in my transcripts. Suppose I could look at the online logs |
| 18:03 |
owen |
It was in an email from Colin: There was an added dependency - Authen::CAS::Client |
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But you can turn off the CAS stuff in system preferences |
| 18:10 |
wizzyrea |
owen: interestingly, I could not get it to even load it without that dependency |
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erroeur |
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that's a fancy way of saying it no worky. |
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installed it and now it's working again. |
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blerg. |
| 18:15 |
nengard |
wizzyrea yeah I had that problem too |
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wizzyrea |
oh good. I disabled all of that CAS stuff |
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but I still had to install the dependency before I could do that |
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anyway |
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nengard |
yup |
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brendan |
howdy gmcharlt |
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gmcharlt |
hi brendan |
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chris |
morning all |
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wizzyrea: ill send a patch so that it doesnt require the CAS unless you have the syspref on |
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the way the code is now, its going to require that module even if it doesn't use it |
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CAS is cool as hell tho |
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its LDAP done right |
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so you can have CAS server, that talks in the back to a RADIUS system over here, windows active directory over there, LDAP over somewhere else, maybe x509 too |
| 18:50 |
jwagner |
Fines question for people -- if the circ rule specifies a one-day grace period, and the item is, say, four days overdue, does it charge four days' worth of fines or only three? |
| 18:50 |
chris |
and provides a consistent api so instead of koha needing to understand all that, it just needs to understand CAS |
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i would expect 3 |
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but id have to look at the code jwagner |
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ok bus time, bbl |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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| 19:13 |
schuster |
Every time I print it to show acq, date added, price etc. it shows me a blank form or only shows things that are drop downs. |
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cait |
ah pootle is back :) |
| 19:16 |
jwagner |
gmcharlt, I always have trouble counting up days for overdue, but I think the grace period is not being included in the total fines. I made something due on the 1st, with a 1 day grace period and a $1/day fine. Running the fines cron today came up with a total of $6 in fines. If it were including the grace period day, shouldn't it be $7? |
| 19:16 |
gmcharlt |
yep |
| 19:17 |
jwagner |
So it's not including the grace period. That's what I needed to check. Thanks. |
| 19:18 |
gmcharlt |
are you taking holidays into account, though? |
| 19:18 |
jwagner |
No holidays in that time span, so it shouldn't matter. |
| 19:18 |
joetho |
jwagner , that's where I have been getting my info, albfeit from the worldwide version, not the US version |
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your link is US, mine was worldwide. Same info |
| 19:19 |
jwagner |
joetho, the info on that page works for me -- I've always connected OK. |
| 19:20 |
joetho |
hmmm. Maybe I misspelled something. Lord knows I know how to misspell stuff! |
| 19:23 |
jwagner |
joetho, did you include the account ID/password in the z39.50 setup? It's required. |
| 19:25 |
joetho |
uh oh, I assumed it allowed anonymous |
| 19:26 |
jwagner |
Nope. Gotta pay for OCLC. |
| 19:26 |
joetho |
yes, we get charged every time we use it for other stuff |
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do they charge for z39 "hits"? |
| 19:27 |
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wow, I am talkin street talk |
| 19:28 |
gmcharlt |
joetho: ask the dealer^W source |
| 19:29 |
jwagner |
My memory from several years ago (dunno what's current) is that the z39.50 connection is actually MORE costly than their client -- you're charged by the hitlist because they have no good way to track which record(s) you actually download. |
| 19:29 |
joetho |
must be some good sh** |
| 19:37 |
jwagner |
Speaking of z39.50, does anyone know the default database name for a Horizon catalog? |
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I tried HORIZON but it didn't work. |
| 19:39 |
cait |
dont know if there is one, but in irspy there are many with db = horizon |
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http://spedr.com/4e05u |
| 19:39 |
wizzyrea |
hey, where can a patron change their OPAC Privacy settings? |
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in current head |
| 19:41 |
nengard |
privacy settings? |
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patrons can't change those ... |
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or do you mean messaging preferences? |
| 19:42 |
cait |
I think there is a new feature for reading history |
| 19:42 |
nengard |
oh yeah - i remember that ... is that is the current head? |
| 19:42 |
chris |
back |
| 19:43 |
nengard |
welcome back |
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cait |
hi chris |
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should be in opac I think, I only saw the patches (no test installation atm...) |
| 19:44 |
nengard |
i would think there is a sys pref as well |
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wizzyrea - OpacPrivacy system preference |
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turn it on |
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chris |
lol |
| 19:46 |
nengard |
and - there is a 'search history' link at the top of the OPAC on the right |
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but I don't know howto change my privacy settings ... i turned it on but don't see naything in the opac |
| 19:46 |
chris |
phasefx: you about? :) |
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nengard |
naything = anything |
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wizzyrea |
hmm I 'm not seeing that |
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interesting |
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setting is on |
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nengard |
which - search history - or the preference? |
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wizzyrea |
ohh, hm, that does not do what it says it does |
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or at least, not what I was expecting it to. |
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I thought it would clear your reading history |
| 19:47 |
nengard |
me too |
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that's what paul was developing it to do |
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he started it at kohacon |
| 19:48 |
wizzyrea |
if ON, allows patrons to define their privacy rules (reading history) *description, not clear. :( |
| 19:48 |
nengard |
maybe we're just missing a template file |
| 19:48 |
wizzyrea |
i was all excited ;) |
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seems likely |
| 19:49 |
nengard |
wizzyrea - this is all i can find: http://git.biblibre.com/cgi-bi[…]rep&s=OpacPrivacy |
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a database update - but no template updates ... |
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anyone else know any differently? |
| 19:51 |
chris |
i think its best to just ask the people who wrote it |
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everyone else is just guessing |
| 19:53 |
nengard |
yeah - was hoping one of them was here and would see what we were asking :) not sure who at biblibre is still on - and/or at work |
| 19:54 |
chris |
its about 8pm there, unlikely to be anyone around |
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cait |
its late here - 9pm |
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wizzyrea |
eh will make a note and ask tomorrow maybe |
| 19:54 |
nengard |
wizzyrea I'll send a message via the mailing list for them to answer when they're awake tomorrow and we're sound asleep :) |
| 19:54 |
wizzyrea |
also an excellent plan |
| 19:56 |
nengard |
hehe |
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notes are no good to me |
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i'll forget to read the note :) hehe |
| 19:57 |
wizzyrea |
lol |
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chris |
song of the day http://listen.grooveshark.com/[…]+Trumpet/10794194 |
| 19:57 |
wizzyrea |
Yay song of the day! |
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joetho |
jwagner , try Horizon with a cap then lowercase. |
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joetho |
jwagner , try dynix or dynixa too. |
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chris |
pinepine te kura, hau te kura = the treasue is small, the treasue is famous |
| 20:04 |
owen |
nengard: No luck with the batch item modifications for me either |
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jwagner |
joetho, no luck with any of those variations. |
| 20:05 |
nengard |
hmm |
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|Lupin| |
hello there :) |
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cait |
hi |Lupin| |
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|Lupin| |
guten Abend cait :) |
| 20:06 |
cait |
guten Abend :) |
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jwagner |
I'm testing the Smithsonian library -- I know it used to work but it doesn't now. Their setup page has the same address & port number, but doesn't specify database name, and their tech person doesn't seem to know what it is. |
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Genji |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibLime |
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Reads like Liblime's website. |
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wizzyrea |
Global leader in open source solutions for libraries? |
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|Lupin| |
my librarian asks me hther it is possible to see all members of one given site... anybody knows, pls ? |
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* wizzyrea |
bonks herself with an iron frying pan: "oh, the marketingspeak has infiltrated my brain!" |
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wizzyrea |
|Lupin| I'm sure you could run a custom report to get that info |
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|Lupin| |
wizzyrea: hmm... no easier way ? |
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It'b nice to be able to limit patron search to a site... |
| 20:10 |
wizzyrea |
not that I am aware of, but I haven't gone looking either |
| 20:10 |
cait |
I think this may be possible in 3.2 |
| 20:11 |
wizzyrea |
oh, actually, cait is right |
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that does appear to be possible in current head |
| 20:11 |
|Lupin| |
cait: we are running master HEAD, or not too far from that... |
| 20:11 |
wizzyrea |
you can filter by library |
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|Lupin| |
wizzyrea: is this part of what has been committed recently, or is that older ? |
| 20:12 |
cait |
|Lupin| its in a newer update to head, |
| 20:12 |
Ropuch |
chris: so 'kura' means treasure? |
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chris |
it can |
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|Lupin| |
cait: hmm ? |
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chris |
it also means schools |
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cait |
|Lupin| I think its in the big merge from biblibre galen did some days ago |
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|Lupin| |
cait: i see, thans. Will have to rebase our stuff on top of that,I'm sure it's gonna be big fun |
| 20:16 |
owen |
Wow, Equinox raiding the Koha devel list for devs! |
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chris |
thats what the lol was for :) |
| 20:16 |
owen |
Hands down everyone, you're not going anywhere! |
| 20:16 |
jwagner |
Blame gmcharlt! blame gmcharlt! |
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Although the "humane work environment" might be a draw.... |
| 20:18 |
gmcharlt |
heh - anyone should feel free to go the other direction, as well |
| 20:18 |
cait |
lol |
| 20:19 |
jwagner |
But, gmcharlt, it raises the question -- does "humane work environment" mean they don't test code on puppies and kittens? Just on people??? |
| 20:20 |
gmcharlt |
jwagner: yes! we're quite proud of the fact that we test only on people!!!! |
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(though if any A.I.s want to join the fun, I suppose we can make an exception) |
| 20:20 |
jwagner |
I'm sure the ASPCA appreciates that. |
| 20:20 |
gmcharlt |
;) |
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owen |
gmcharlt: I'll mention that to CGI952 if he returns |
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|Lupin| |
hey galen ! nice to see you around, congras for all the commits ! |
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wizzyrea |
|lupin| unfortunately, with the filter, you can restrict your search for something to a specific branch, but you can't show everybody from that branch, unless there's some magic search string that makes that work |
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something = patron |
| 20:24 |
cait |
would an empty search and restriction work? |
| 20:24 |
wizzyrea |
cait: I tried that, my test didn't work :( |
| 20:24 |
cait |
oh, perhaps its a bug ;) |
| 20:25 |
owen |
wizzyrea, cait, what about '%' ? |
| 20:25 |
wizzyrea |
ooh, will check that |
| 20:25 |
cait |
or * |
| 20:25 |
wizzyrea |
no on % |
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no on * |
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|Lupin| |
* worked for me |
| 20:25 |
wizzyrea |
hm |
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|Lupin| |
even before the filter patch |
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you can see a list of all users |
| 20:26 |
wizzyrea |
yes, interestingly, you can't just put it in the little filter text entry box |
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you have to put it at the top |
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then add the filter |
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weird |
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wizzyrea |
http://screencast.com/t/ZTE1NDkxZW |
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http://screencast.com/t/MGFjZGM3Ym |
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top one didn't work |
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bottom one did |
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cait |
funny |
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but you found out :) |
| 20:29 |
wizzyrea |
yes, ty cait |
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wonder if regular searches work like that... there may be a bug ther |
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*there |
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cait |
|Lupin| the solutio is: put * in both search fields - top and filter |
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wizzyrea |
ooh, yea, the filter box doesn't work by itself |
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|Lupin| |
ah ! |
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the filter box isnot a drop-down menu where you choose a branch ? |
| 20:30 |
cait |
there is a drop down for branches and category codes and a search field |
| 20:30 |
wizzyrea |
there is a text input box right above the Library and CategoryCode Dropdowns (terminology fix needed there too) |
| 20:31 |
cait |
jinx? |
| 20:31 |
wizzyrea |
the search field doesn't seem to work |
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triple padlock |
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;) |
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j/k |
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cait |
ok, now im confused g |
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jransom |
morning all |
| 20:31 |
cait |
good morning jransom |
| 20:31 |
jransom |
about to start testing 3.2 |
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wizzyrea |
mornin jransom |
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|Lupin| |
thanks anyway cait & wizzyrea |
| 20:32 |
wizzyrea |
|Lupin| did you get what you needed? |
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| 20:34 |
owen |
I don't get it...why doesn't a patron search work if you start from the "filter" form? |
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...and why does it work *after* you search through the main "search patrons" form? |
| 20:35 |
|Lupin| |
wizzyrea: I know it exists ! |
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wizzyrea: I can't test for now because I'll have to merge our branch with the latest head to test... |
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I think this is not gonna e an obvious task so I'll keep it for the week-end |
| 20:35 |
Genji |
is it safe to cache C4::Biblio::get_biblio_authorised_values? |
| 20:36 |
cait |
|Lupin| perhaps wait a little longer, I think there are some bigger bugs to be fixed |
| 20:36 |
wizzyrea |
no clue |
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|Lupin| |
cait: ohoh... |
| 20:37 |
wizzyrea |
owen: in case you ever come across what I just did with your virtualbox (ssh -p 2222 localhost -> connection refused) just restart ssh on your guest machine (/etc/init.d/ssh restart) |
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|Lupin| |
cait: will in two weeks I'll be away in India for three weeks, so if it's not done before it will have to wait till I'm back... but it's true that if there are some bugs in head, it may not be wise either to merge now... |
| 20:37 |
wizzyrea |
dk why it was bustid but that fixed it |
| 20:38 |
owen |
Thanks wizzyrea. I shut down this machine every night so I don't suppose I'll run into it. (Makes it hard to maintain a screen session on it ;) |
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wizzyrea |
mine seemed to be broken after moving the vbox image to a new computer |
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cait |
3 weeks in india, wow |
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owen |
wizzyrea: I wondered if I could carry my vbox image on a thumb drive between work and home |
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PC -> Mac, though |
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jwagner |
jdavidb, didn't you do a Koha install on a thumb drive? |
| 20:40 |
jdavidb |
yup. using a thumb as the filesystem for koha, and also on a virtual disk that was stored on a thumb drive. |
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owen |
jdavidb: What VM software? |
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jdavidb |
virtualbox. |
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:) |
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It was slower than molasses, but it *ran*. |
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(I was running it on an Asus EEE with only 512MB of ram..possibly a contributing factor. :P ) |
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* jdavidb |
waves |
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wizzyrea |
owen: idk why not, as long as you duplicate your vbox settings on both machines. Though, the pc -> mac thing might be problematic |
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owen |
Koha already runs slow enough, may not be worth it. But it would solve my divergent git branches problem in a different way |
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|Lupin| |
good night all |
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owen |
Hmmm... sample serials data. That would be nice too. |
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Genji |
@quote search genji |
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munin |
Genji: No matching quotes were found. |
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Genji |
ah, im not quotable yet, oh well. |
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pie |
help /win 36 |
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heh :) |
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Ropuch |
hm- fatal: patch contains a line longer than 998 characters |
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dreece |
Howdy! |
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Ropuch |
Hi |
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dreece |
Is there anyone that can help me figure out the process for moving from Infocentre to Koha? |
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Ropuch |
I think some devs and experienced users will arrive soon |
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They always do when I'm going to sleep ;> |
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dreece |
haha |
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Thanks :) |
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Ropuch |
I hope someone will show soon |
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Have some trouble with patch sending |
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dreece |
Yeah.. me too. |
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Having issues importing records/holdings. |
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rhcl_in_an_out |
@seen chris |
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munin |
rhcl_in_an_out: chris was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 25 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <chris> thats what the lol was for :) |
| 22:41 |
rhcl_in_an_out |
chris should be on chat |
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Ropuch |
It's about noon in NZ, isn't it? |
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imp |
right |
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rhcl_in_an_out |
11:41:14 am NZST | Wednesday, December 9, 2009 |
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I think that's right, anyway. I really like Wolfram Alpha |
| 22:45 |
Ropuch |
I have fatal: patch contains a line longer than 998 characters while trying to git send-email, don't know if I should sent it in form of an attachement |
| 22:45 |
rhcl_in_an_out |
Sorry, I don't know. |
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well, I'm out... |
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pianohackr|work |
hi mason, joetho |
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masonj |
hiya jesse |
