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01:13 | CGI806 | hello my name is ygtrhsd |
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01:17 | CGI512 | hello |
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01:25 | owen | Anyone around for an install question? |
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01:28 | CGI742 | hello my name is miles |
01:28 | owen | Hi miles |
01:29 | CGI742 | whats your name |
01:30 | hi owen | |
01:32 | hello | |
01:32 | brendan | hey owen - here for a sec if you need something |
01:32 | owen | CGI742: Do you have an interest in open source library software? |
01:33 | Hey brendan, I'm just doing what most guys do on a Saturday night: trying to install Koha on Debian | |
01:33 | brendan | cool beans |
01:33 | owen | I'm curious why the Debian install guide leaves out steps listed in the Ubuntu install guide. |
01:33 | brendan | hmm... maybe it's one of those - writing by a developer kind of things |
01:33 | s/writing/written | |
01:34 | CGI742 | yes i love library software |
01:34 | owen | For instance, the Debian guide describes how to set up Index Data sources in sources.list, but doesn't tell you to install yaz, idzebra-2.0, etc. |
01:34 | brendan | ahhh.. yaz and zebra should be in the dselect part |
01:35 | so I don't think you need to worry about it -- it's taking care of as part of that step | |
01:35 | owen | Okay, that's what I wondered |
01:35 | imp | CGI742: are you a bot? |
01:35 | brendan | rereading one of your emails -- where you noted a bunch of packages that did not install |
01:35 | owen | I had trouble with zebra my first time around, so I'm starting from scratch and trying to carefully keep track of my steps |
01:35 | CGI742 | no |
01:36 | are you | |
01:36 | areyou? | |
01:36 | owen | CGI742: You'll have to quiz each of us extensively to find that out |
01:36 | brendan | sometimes - they just don't go through -- so it's good that during the Makefile.PL step it notes the missing packages |
01:37 | alright gotta run -- cya all later | |
01:37 | imp | bye brendan |
01:37 | owen | Thanks brendan |
01:37 | chris_n2 | bye brendan |
01:37 | g'night koha | |
01:37 | imp | gn8 chris_n2 |
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01:37 | imp | kick! |
01:37 | CGI742 | ghuisvgjor |
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01:37 | owen | No doubt, imp |
01:37 | CGI742 | vfror |
01:37 | jyhvfir | |
01:38 | i really love zebra | |
01:38 | owen | When did this place become somewhere to pop in randomly? |
01:38 | Jo | can we block CGI742 |
01:38 | CGI742 | i made it |
01:38 | imp | guess it's a bot controll thing |
01:38 | chris_n2 | no ops on channel :-( |
01:38 | CGI742 | noway dont block the zebra creator |
01:38 | Jo | I don't think its a human :) |
01:38 | CGI742 | chris who do u think u are |
01:38 | * Jo | slaps CGI742 around a bit with a large trout |
01:39 | CGI742 | you stupid nerdy retards |
01:39 | owen | Jo, I don't think that trout was big enough |
01:39 | * owen | hand Jo a bigger trout |
01:39 | Jo | can I punch him in the haed instead :) |
01:39 | * chris_n2 | has a good laugh |
01:39 | CGI742 | if you want to know i go to the most prestiges uni in the world im a computer operator |
01:39 | owen | We should be nicer to the inventor of the zebra. |
01:39 | CGI742 | learn how to spell |
01:39 | owen | Who would have thought to add the stripes. |
01:40 | Jo | you are a social outcast |
01:40 | chris_n2 | maybe we could paint perpendicular strips on the zebra |
01:40 | CGI742 | hahahha you are very damn funny |
01:40 | chris_n2 | then play tic-tac-toe on him |
01:40 | * chris_n2 | really has to go now ;-) |
01:40 | CGI742 | use my zebra program and i will hunt you down |
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01:40 | owen | Yeah, chris_n2 I've heard lots of bug reports about the lack of horizontal strips |
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01:41 | Jo | we can ban him |
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01:41 | Jo | the channel operator can |
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01:41 | imp | CGI742: do us a favour and prove that you are from the "best uni from the world" and join from their subnet, please :) |
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01:42 | pie | everyone, just type '/ignore CGI742' and your client will stop showing you those messages |
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01:42 | owen | Good one pie :) |
01:42 | pie | then once someone with ops comes in, they can kick or whatever |
01:42 | :) | |
01:42 | Jo | thats pie |
01:42 | * pie | gets no noise now :) |
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01:44 | Jo | Chris: have you got ops authority on this channel? |
01:44 | chris_n2 | Jo: I think si does that |
01:44 | Jo | or is it someone at Katipo |
01:44 | ok | |
01:45 | mind you, it looks like he just logs back in again with a dofferent number-name | |
01:45 | imp | a server admin would be great right now |
01:45 | Jo | would be chasing a slippery pig to eep up :) |
01:45 | pie | Jo: yeah, unfortunately |
01:45 | * pie | wonders why we have that CGI interface |
01:46 | imp | uhm, is it that one? -> http://koha.org/cgi-bin/irc.cgi |
01:46 | pie | yeah, looks like it |
01:47 | richard | he's loggin in from that one |
01:47 | imp | (then it doesn't make any sense to ban the ip ... :/) |
01:47 | pie | indeed |
01:57 | * chris_n2 | roasts fresh pecans |
01:57 | imp | nearly 3am and there are still ideas popping up in my mind how to improve the prototype which has to be finished today... |
01:57 | chris_n2 | heh |
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02:20 | wizzyrea | ooh, looks like that was some excitement ^.^ |
02:21 | the creator of the zebra from a prestigious university gets slapped around by jo. I always miss the fun stuff | |
02:21 | * wizzyrea | remembers why Jo is the coolest librarian ever |
02:25 | * richard | scrolls back and sees that there ahas been a real pest about |
02:28 | wizzyrea | I suspect a drunken vacationer. |
02:28 | chris | or a 12 year |
02:29 | old | |
02:30 | imp | or a broken eliza version ;) |
02:30 | with some serious problems | |
02:43 | chris_n2 | well, things were getting awful quiet before the CGI nut wandered in... :-) |
02:45 | chris | heh |
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02:56 | Jo | hes got fish scales stuuck tohis forhead now :) |
02:56 | and I really should learn to either spell or type better | |
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02:58 | Jo | had a nice email challenging my figures for a proprietary system back in 1999: challenged my $NZD225k figure .... his only cost $USD100k ... I expleined to him its about the same :) |
02:59 | chris | yeah it was back then |
02:59 | we were about 49cents | |
02:59 | pie | heh |
03:02 | Jo | quite cool though to have the figure confirmed independently :) |
03:03 | chris | :-) |
03:03 | Jo | still have no email ... i feel like a social outcast |
03:03 | chris | was it from a proprietary vendor? |
03:03 | Jo | sirsi |
03:03 | chris | heh |
03:03 | funny | |
03:03 | Jo | was probably Mr Abrahms himself! |
03:03 | chris | he woulda called you a terrorist |
03:04 | oh wait, he already did | |
03:15 | Jo | :) |
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03:30 | Amit | heya brendan, chris, chris_n2 |
03:30 | good morning #koha | |
03:31 | Jo | hiya Amit |
03:31 | Amit | heya Jo |
03:33 | Jo | just thinking to myself it would be cool in acquisitions, if we could scan in the actual invoice when we are receiving a bunch of books, and could be linked to. |
03:33 | and retrieved in an instant for auditors rather than trawling through boxes for the paper copy | |
03:39 | brendan | Heya Amit |
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03:46 | anotheruser | I've got a quick question for a more experienced koha user |
03:47 | I'm helping a group use Koha to catalog their zine collection which doesn't require as much bibliographic information as the default setup (think it's called a MARC framework). I tried making my own framework with its own options (one for title with a title subtag, author with author subtag, etc.). Koha says the tags are invalid. Is there a simpler way to do this? | |
03:48 | pianohacker | anotheruser: You could simply hide those tags in the default framework |
03:51 | anotheruser | That sounds like a good idea but they're also cataloguing books |
03:52 | pianohacker: Can I just clone the default framework and then rename it to zines or something like that and hide the tags there? Also, will the zines show up in search results? | |
03:52 | pianohacker | I think so and yes, they will |
03:53 | anotheruser | thanks! |
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04:11 | anotheruser | pianohacker: in the tag edit menu I don't see a hide option, am I looking in the wrong spot? |
04:12 | pianohacker | anotheruser: Unfortunately, you have to do it by editing the subfields |
04:12 | There's a quick way to do it, but it requires that you're comfortable with SQL | |
04:13 | anotheruser | I can run an SQL command if that's easier |
04:14 | pianohacker | Okay. You need to set the hidden column in marc_subfield_structure to -6 (visible on OPAC and Intranet, but not the Editor) |
04:14 | It'll look something like this for each tag that you want to hide: | |
04:16 | UPDATE marc_subfield_structure SET hidden = -6 WHERE frameworkcode='<the frameworkcode of the zine framework>' AND tagfield='<the number of the tag you want to hide>' AND hidden = 0; | |
04:16 | please back up that table before running that | |
04:16 | anotheruser | thanks! |
04:16 | pianohacker | messing with your marc frameworks through sql is touchy |
04:16 | np | |
04:17 | anotheruser | yeah |
04:17 | pianohacker | especially the godforsaken hidden field |
04:18 | anotheruser | so for something like the title of a zine, which title tag should I keep? |
04:18 | Collective Uniform Title? Uniform title? Palellel Titel Proper? Cover Title? etc. | |
04:19 | wizzyrea | ooh, that is a question for a cataloger :P |
04:19 | * wizzyrea | is not a cataloger |
04:20 | anotheruser | I mean, I don't really care which is the "correct" one, I just want to make sure that whatever title tag I choose will show up using the built-in search engine |
04:24 | I know there's a whole science to cataloging but this is a small library with no intentions on becoming huge, so I'm just looking for what works | |
04:27 | IrmaCalyx | anotheruser: in MARC21: The title field is always 245 $a - If the zine is part of a series...and the title of eachzine in that series is different, you create a new bib record for each one and in field 500 (Notes) mention the name of the series it belongs to to link them all. That's keeing it very simple but also indexes the series name to be searched on. |
04:29 | anotheruser | IrmaCalyx: thanks! |
04:31 | IrmaCalyx | anotheruser: and include the URL...use 856 $u (in MARC21) OK? |
04:32 | anotheruser | IrmaCalyx: Huh? |
04:33 | that sentence went a little over my head | |
04:33 | pianohacker | anotheruser: I think that's only if it's an e-zine, and it had some URL it could be accessed at |
04:34 | * pianohacker | is about to hunt down the original person who thought eBook DRM was a fantastic idea and slowly kill them with an icepick |
04:35 | anotheruser | gotcha, thanks for the clarification |
04:35 | and don't go too quick, I'd like to join in ; ) | |
04:37 | IrmaCalyx | anotheruser & pianohacker: ah..I thought zine = Electronically distributed newsletter or magazine |
04:37 | pianohacker | right |
04:39 | anotheruser | no, they're zines ie a diy distribution method used by lots of political types |
04:39 | should I save the same tags in this case? | |
04:39 | I mean, not hide the same ones? | |
04:41 | IrmaCalyx | would like to stay but I am running late for a meeting ...cheers for now. |
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04:43 | anotheruser | shit |
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05:22 | pianohacker | anotheruser: Yup |
05:22 | Except for the URL | |
05:22 | Just get an idea of what metadata you need, find marc tags for them, and don't hide those fields | |
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05:28 | anotheruser | pianohacker: thanks |
05:28 | I think what I'll do is force all the tags I need to show up in the first pane and remove the ones I don't there | |
05:43 | pianohacker | k |
05:44 | anotheruser | What are the 000 and 001 tags and can I make them non-mandatory (I assume they're there for a reason)? |
05:46 | pianohacker | The 000 tag is a leader; you want to leave that mandatory, it's automatically set |
05:47 | The 001 can be made not mandatory, it's a control number (definitely in the "if you don't know what it is, learning is not going to be worth it") | |
05:48 | anotheruser | when I put things in via the add marc record form, it won't let me save them because 000 and 001 are emptu |
05:48 | *empty | |
05:48 | what should i put in them? | |
05:52 | pianohacker | You can make the @ subfield of 001 not mandatory; 000 can be field by just clicking in the text input for it |
05:54 | anotheruser | pianohacker: you mean just clicking in the text area? It still gives me in the same error |
05:54 | *me the | |
05:54 | pianohacker | Hmm |
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05:56 | anotheruser | oh, you mean clicking on the "..." to the right |
05:58 | thanks for helping me out with this, I feel like such a noob on this system | |
05:58 | ok, so one more and I think I'll have my first manually created zine marc record | |
05:58 | I put tags 101/102 in the first panel (0) so I could put them in quickly | |
05:59 | I can put in the data fine, but it has two text boxes for 101[][] and 102[][], does it matter what I put in those/what are they for? | |
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06:08 | pianohacker | Those are indicators, you probably don't have to worry about them |
06:12 | anotheruser | it tells me that they're mandatory |
06:12 | Can't save this record because the following field aren't filled : | |
06:12 | * tag 606 subfield a Entry Element in tab 6 | |
06:12 | * tag 610 subfield a Subject Term in tab 6 | |
06:19 | pianohacker | @marc 606 |
06:19 | munin | pianohacker: unknown tag 606 |
06:20 | pianohacker | anotheruser: What version of Koha are you running? |
06:21 | anotheruser | the most recent one |
06:21 | 3.0.4 | |
06:27 | pianohacker | anotheruser: Was it set up for MARC21 or UNIMARC? |
06:27 | (It's beginning to sound like the latter) | |
06:28 | anotheruser | pianohacker: Unimark |
06:28 | *marc | |
06:28 | but I have no records at this point | |
06:28 | pianohacker | Ohhhhh |
06:28 | anotheruser | can I change it to marc21 easily |
06:28 | pianohacker | Not really, easier to wipe the db and reinstall |
06:29 | MARC21 is more common in the US | |
06:29 | anotheruser | I've already spent way too much time to do that |
06:29 | pianohacker | Well, then, the less easy option |
06:30 | anotheruser | hmm... |
06:30 | well maybe I should be using another tag? | |
06:30 | thanks for all of your help thus far, you're saving my life here. We've got it to the point where book cataloging is possible | |
06:31 | pianohacker | anotheruser: You have no records? |
06:31 | anotheruser | not yet |
06:31 | pianohacker | You can remove all of the frameworks (might take some manual SQL work), then reload them from the sql source files in the tarball |
06:32 | anotheruser | is there a way to backup all of my settings, re-install, and then copy them back? |
06:33 | pianohacker | Excising the frameworks, then loading the marc21 ones, will be easier |
06:34 | anotheruser | ok, sounds like a plan |
06:34 | I'll do that tomorrow | |
06:34 | thanks for all of your help, I'm off to bed | |
06:34 | pianohacker | see ya, good luck |
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06:41 | pianohacker | Good night |
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07:04 | Ropuch | Morning #koha |
07:14 | SelfishMan | morning |
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08:58 | ropuch_ | Is itemtypes table in 3.2 supposed to have 7 rows or just six (itemptype, desctiption, rentalcharge, notforloan, imageurl, summary)? |
08:59 | sample_itemptypes.sql is trying to insert 7 values | |
08:59 | kf | I think renewals were moved to circ rules |
08:59 | ropuch_ | Hi kf [; |
08:59 | kf | hi ropuch |
09:00 | I dont have a test installation yet, but I think I saw some patches | |
09:00 | ropuch_ | Well, I'll fix sample_itemtypes then |
09:01 | And there's a aqbookfunds table | |
09:01 | paul_p | ropuch_: aqbookfunds has been removed (aqbudgets used instead) |
09:01 | kf | i think acq table structure changed a lot |
09:01 | paul_p | kf: true |
09:01 | kf | hi paul_p |
09:02 | paul_p | hello everybody |
09:02 | ropuch_ | paul_p: thanks, it still exists in sample_budgets.sql |
09:03 | chris | yeah almost all the sample data needs updating for 3.2 |
09:03 | kf | hi chris |
09:03 | chris: started workino n 3.2 installation, there are many strings like /cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=au: from xslt-files | |
09:03 | chris | yep, the xslt files dont play nice with translation |
09:04 | kf | installation = translation, im not really awake yet |
09:04 | ropuch_ | chris: I've just fixed sysprefs & sample_itemtypes, trying to send my very first patch now ;> |
09:04 | chris | just ignore any ones like that, either just copy and submit, or just ignore them |
09:05 | ropuch_: excellent, then i can add you to the history doc :) | |
09:05 | kf | I ll copy and submit :) I need 100% to be happy :) |
09:05 | ropuch_ | ;-) |
09:05 | Genji | hey chris. Did you see Richard saying katipo would be pleased to host? |
09:05 | chris | ropuch_: lucky 99 |
09:06 | Genji: yep, its not up to me tho | |
09:06 | ropuch_ | chris: can you give me admin rights for 3.2 polish translations? I can only change 3.0 ones |
09:06 | chris | will do ropuch_ |
09:06 | ropuch_ | Thanks |
09:06 | I have 3.2 opac already translated | |
09:06 | kf | chris: did you fix the po-files? German seems to have the right size now :) but search is still broken |
09:07 | chris | ropuch_: done |
09:08 | kf: yep, fixed it, not sure whats up with the search | |
09:08 | ropuch_: you will be the 99th committer | |
09:08 | i hope to get 100 by xmas :) | |
09:08 | kf | chris: thx :) |
09:09 | Genji | Zebra voodoo is so fustrating. putting -s to analyse zebraidx'ing, says that pubdate is being indexed with y and n .... maybe Zebra 2.0.35 doesn't support relationals? |
09:10 | chris | you probably should ask on the zebra list |
09:10 | imp | maybe it's because the creator of zebra got hit with a fish today ;) |
09:10 | Genji | Have. no response yet. |
09:10 | masonj | zzanGGGG!!! |
09:11 | chris | can anyone get to the wiki, or bugs.koha.org ? |
09:11 | ahh bugzilla is ok | |
09:11 | no joy with the wiki | |
09:11 | imp | masonj: read the backlog? :D |
09:11 | Genji | Got wiki still. |
09:11 | chris | i wonder if they have blocked my ip now too |
09:11 | ahh there it is .. just super duper slow | |
09:12 | Genji | Ah.. maybe they have you throttled. |
09:14 | masonj | heh, i keep timing out from home to koha.org :/ |
09:15 | kf | wiki, bugzilla and koha.org ok from here |
09:15 | paul_p | masonj: & chris: koha.org works fine from Europe it seems |
09:15 | Genji | Obviously, they've gotten defensive. |
09:16 | ropuch_ | Where should i sent the patch |
09:16 | koha-patcheslists.koha.org ? | |
09:16 | Genji | SelfishMan has successfuly got down the entire wiki. 7GB compressed into 250MB. |
09:17 | masonj | prolly just my wok-fi network home connection tho :0) |
09:17 | Genji | Wok-fi yeah! How far, masonj? |
09:17 | masonj | now its fast again... :) |
09:17 | just from next door | |
09:18 | ive recently started graphing its singnal strenght with munin | |
09:19 | Genji | Ah. Ive successfully done wok to wok, 130 metres... wok to university calebre wifi, 1.. 2 km. |
09:20 | Hmm.. your graph has strange drops. | |
09:20 | seem to be consistant. | |
09:20 | SelfishMan | Yeah, I may have been the reason they are being defensive |
09:21 | Genji | Hi SelfishMan! |
09:21 | SelfishMan | howdy |
09:22 | Genji | Hmm... paranoid Chris ( :) ) said he wanted it backed up nightly.... how does one detect changes on 7GB, and only download the updates? |
09:22 | Is it actually possible? | |
09:23 | SelfishMan | sure |
09:23 | The method I used was aggressive and not very well designed but it worked | |
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09:23 | * Genji | nods. "So, now you've got it, how do you update it?" |
09:23 | SelfishMan | I'm not going to update it |
09:24 | Their server doesn't support timestamping so there is no way to effectively check for changes | |
09:24 | Genji | Ah. |
09:24 | SelfishMan | I find it interesting that they have explicitly disabled it |
09:24 | ropuch_ | whoa |
09:24 | patch sent | |
09:24 | masonj | hmm, does that break rsync ? |
09:25 | Genji | Hmm.. 'no vendor lock-in' |
09:25 | masonj | i suspect not |
09:25 | Genji | rsync would require ssh or ftp, right? |
09:25 | masonj | rsync would be the obv tool |
09:25 | kf | Gratulation Ropuch! :) |
09:25 | Genji | LL gives neither. |
09:26 | SelfishMan | we don't have rsync access so it doesn't matter |
09:26 | masonj | click... |
09:26 | SelfishMan | We have http access only because it is (currently) a public website |
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09:26 | Genji | Which LL could easily change. |
09:27 | For all we know, however, LL could just be One guy, at home. | |
09:27 | SelfishMan | Technically yes but I think we all know how that *really* works |
09:29 | masonj | genji: yes, there *are* interesting 'dips' in my wifi history graph |
09:29 | Genji | Regular interference. |
09:30 | masonj | some are from me futzing, but some are from something enviromentel , i guess :/ |
09:30 | portable phones and such, i guess | |
09:32 | kf | hm there are some french string from unimarc xslt to translate |
09:32 | Auteur principal | |
09:35 | hdl_laptop | principal author |
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09:42 | CGI985 | hi ropuch |
09:45 | kf | hdl_laptop: thx, not sure I did it right, but its translated now |
09:45 | chris: still around? | |
09:46 | chris: pootle gives me an proxy error | |
09:50 | chris | yeah someone just tried to merge in a big file, it'll come right |
09:51 | kf | chris: ah, ill try again a bit later |
09:53 | chris | pootle doesnt do threading well |
09:55 | try now | |
10:03 | kf | chris: works |
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10:28 | CGI985 | when Im running 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload' it show following error |
10:29 | Reloading web server config: apache2[Sat Dec 05 19:23:08 2009] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts | |
10:30 | is any one there to help me?? | |
10:31 | imp | CGI985: looks like a warning to me, not an error. are you sure that it doesn't work? |
10:34 | CGI985 | imp: I dont know |
10:36 | imp | CGI985: just take a look at your apache with a browser |
10:36 | CGI985 | imp: how? |
10:39 | imp | CGI985: you are restarting an apache, without knowing the website it should be serving? (guess it's a koha running there?) |
10:41 | greenmang0 | CGI985: are you running Debian? |
10:42 | CGI985 | greenmang(): Im installing koha3.00.04_fixed on debian-lenny |
10:46 | I need help about it?? | |
10:46 | is any one there? | |
10:49 | ropuch_ | Yup |
10:51 | greenmang0 | CGI985: http://paste.debian.net/53342/ |
10:51 | your ports.conf should look like this | |
10:52 | masonj | i get those apache warnings on my boxes too. |
10:52 | ropuch_ | I've reported bug, submitted patch, what now - shuold i change bug status to fixed or wait fur patch to be approved? |
10:53 | masonj | they aren't fatal to apache |
10:53 | greenmang0 | CGI985: http://paste.debian.net/53343/ |
10:53 | notice commented NameVirtualHost * entry | |
10:54 | masonj | wait for patch approval, i think |
10:54 | kf | ropuch: wait until its approved, test and close |
10:54 | greenmang0 | ropuch_: can i get any help regarding "kete" installation here? |
10:55 | masonj | try #kete channel too... |
10:55 | CGI985 | greenmang(): i have pasted |
10:55 | ropuch_ | greenmang0: I suppose so, but I have no experience with kete |
10:55 | kf: ok, thanks | |
10:56 | kf | ropuch: ah, change bug to patch-sent and attach your patch |
10:56 | greenmang0 | masonj: i think i am an admin on kete... LOL... |
10:56 | #kete | |
10:56 | :D | |
10:56 | ropuch_ | kf: on my way [; |
10:57 | greenmang0 | CGI985: what did you paste? |
10:58 | CGI985 | error |
10:58 | greenmang0 | CGI985: i have 0 (zero) in my nick and not parentheses |
10:58 | CGI985: where did you paste? give me the link | |
10:59 | CGI985 | CGI985: http://paste.debian.net/53343/ |
10:59 | CGI985: http://paste.debian.net/53343/ | |
10:59 | greenmang(): I have pasted on http://paste.debian.net/53343/ | |
11:00 | greenmang0 | CGI985: read those 2 links i gave you and do the changes on your system accordingly |
11:01 | CGI985 | greenmang():Im new one so Im not getting easily. how can I read ur links |
11:02 | ok u mean 53342/ and 53343 | |
11:06 | kf | Ropuch: change priority to patch-sent and you are done |
11:08 | hm. pootle is unhappy again | |
11:11 | ropuch_ | And I still don't have permission to change 3.2 trasnlations |
11:11 | Well | |
11:11 | kf: should i make one-patch for one bug? | |
11:11 | I have 2 bug fixed in one patch | |
11:12 | kf | Ropuch: try to logout and login again, when pootle is happier, I think chris wanted to give you the rights |
11:12 | Ropuch: I think its ok the way you have done it, depends on the case I think - Im still a beginner too | |
11:14 | CGI985 | greenmang(): I have followed but still have same problem |
11:22 | greenmang()all is same | |
11:23 | as u post but still prob | |
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11:24 | kf | lunch :) |
11:28 | greenmang0 | CGI985: it's just a warning... is apache running? |
11:28 | properly? | |
11:28 | http://paste.debian.net/53347/plain/53347 | |
11:29 | any solution for this error.. i am trying to install Kete | |
11:29 | on Debian Stable (Lenny) | |
11:29 | CGI985 | how can I check that whether apache is running or not |
11:29 | ? | |
11:29 | as I type localhost it show it works | |
11:36 | masonj | $ps -ef|grep apache |
11:37 | or | |
11:37 | sudo apache2ctl status | |
11:38 | oooohhh.. | |
11:38 | $ sudo apache2ctl fullstatus | |
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11:55 | kf | back |
11:58 | CGI985 | masonj: I type this command but how can I understand that apache is working |
11:59 | and when I want to run '/etc/init.d/apache2 restart' it show error | |
12:00 | imp | wb kf |
12:01 | masonj | http://pastebin.org/61755 |
12:01 | thats a working apache2 | |
12:03 | http://pastebin.org/61756 | |
12:03 | thats a non-working / stopped apache2 | |
12:06 | CGI985 | masonj: it is working like http://pastebin.org/61755 |
12:06 | so why not it is restarting | |
12:06 | masonj | well, wots yr error? |
12:06 | use pastebin.org ;) | |
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12:09 | CGI985 | masonj: I have posted |
12:10 | masonj | great..... |
12:10 | now, paste in that url into your chat window.... | |
12:10 | or did you already? | |
12:11 | CGI985 | no |
12:11 | masonj | ok |
12:11 | CGI985 | masong: Im not getting |
12:11 | masonj | me also |
12:12 | CGI985 | http://pastebin.org/61757 |
12:13 | masonj | as someone said, its *not* an error |
12:13 | its a warning | |
12:13 | imp | it's still just a warning... |
12:13 | CGI985 | so should I continue further process of koha |
12:13 | masonj | your apache2 is running , and working |
12:14 | CGI985 | yeah |
12:14 | masonj | you need to put a koha-httpd.conf file in /etc/apache/sites-enabled |
12:15 | then restart apache | |
12:16 | $ ls -l /etc/apache2/sites-enabled | |
12:16 | you have any koha files in there ? | |
12:16 | CGI985 | already there is one file name "koha: |
12:16 | "koha" | |
12:16 | is it same ?? | |
12:16 | masonj | ? |
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12:17 | masonj | pastebin the file, i look... |
12:18 | CGI985 | http://pastebin.org/61760 |
12:20 | masonj | $ lynx 10.1.2.36:80 |
12:20 | try that... | |
12:21 | CGI985 | command not found |
12:21 | It show above | |
12:21 | masonj | $ sudo apt-get install lynx |
12:21 | yep, if you dont have the program , get it ;) | |
12:22 | CGI985 | yes Im getting it |
12:24 | masonj | ahhhh, this is very handy for debugging your apache conf problem |
12:24 | $ sudo apache2ctl -t -D DUMP_VHOSTS | |
12:26 | fyi: your apache's koha.conf file does look OK | |
12:26 | CGI985 | when I try lynx 10.1.2.36:80 |
12:26 | masonj | i suspect your 000-default file is overridding it |
12:27 | $ ls -l /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default | |
12:27 | CGI985 | this result occur http://pastebin.org/61763 |
12:27 | masonj | that file.. |
12:28 | good | |
12:28 | that means your apache is working | |
12:28 | and you have a common problem | |
12:29 | CGI985 | what? |
12:29 | masonj | http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]b52b;hb=HEAD#l121 |
12:30 | you need to create a db, in mysql | |
12:30 | create a user , give the user access to that db.. | |
12:30 | mysql> grant all on <kohadatabasename>.* to '<kohadatabaseuser>'@'localhost' identified by '<kohadatabaseuserpassword>'; | |
12:31 | CGI985 | but I have followed this steps |
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12:31 | masonj | do it again... |
12:32 | CGI985 | I replace koha instead of kohadatabasename and kohaadmin instead of kohadataseuser |
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12:33 | masonj | yep, then test access from the commandline ;) |
12:33 | mysql> flush privileges; | |
12:33 | do that? | |
12:34 | $ mysql -u kohaadmin -pPASSWORD kohadb | |
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12:34 | masonj | when that works , koha error with go... |
12:34 | CGI985 | wht should I do '<kohadatabaseuserpassword>' |
12:35 | wht should place here | |
12:35 | masonj | your **password** :) |
12:35 | kf | table des matières? |
12:36 | * kf | fighting with translation |
12:36 | masonj | ahhhhh |
12:36 | '<kohadatabaseuserpassword>'; | |
12:36 | the '<' and '>' are incorrect, i think :/ | |
12:38 | CGI985 | masonj: wht do u mean, im not understanding |
12:38 | should I give any password or keep same as mysql or debian | |
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12:40 | masonj | > grant all on 'koha'.* to 'kohaadmin'@'localhost' identified by 'xxxxx'; |
12:40 | no < or > , ok? | |
12:41 | CGI985 | masonj: |
12:42 | masonj | choose a password that matches the password in "/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml" |
12:42 | CGI985 | I have done it but it show same error |
12:42 | masonj | is your grant successfull? |
12:42 | CGI985 | yeah |
12:43 | masonj | mysql> create database koha; |
12:43 | Query OK, 1 row affected (0.00 sec) | |
12:43 | do you have a koha db? | |
12:43 | CGI985 | where should I search koha db?? |
12:43 | masonj | Query OK, 1 row affected (0.00 sec) |
12:43 | mysql> show databases; | |
12:43 | +--------------------+ | |
12:43 | | Database | | |
12:43 | +--------------------+ | |
12:43 | | information_schema | | |
12:44 | CGI985 | yeah |
12:44 | it is there? | |
12:44 | koha is there | |
12:44 | masonj | good! |
12:45 | mysql> flush privileges; | |
12:45 | CGI985 | but there is no tables inside koha |
12:45 | masonj | correct |
12:45 | CGI985 | flush privileges was also done successfully |
12:45 | masonj | $ mysql -u kohaadmin -pxxxxx koha |
12:46 | works? | |
12:46 | CGI985 | yeah Im now in mysql> |
12:46 | masonj | goood |
12:47 | now look in /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml | |
12:47 | your user:password:db in there need to be the same | |
12:48 | CGI985 | http://pastebin.org/61770 |
12:50 | masonj | looks good |
12:50 | CGI985 | masonj: plz dont mind, Im going and will be back in 10 mins] |
12:50 | masonj | your password is correct? |
12:50 | CGI985 | so wht should I do now? |
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12:51 | masonj | everything looks pretty good |
12:51 | restart apache and mysql ... | |
12:52 | ask a friend to look at your work | |
12:53 | look out for path errors | |
12:53 | tail -f /var/log/koha/koha-opac-error_log | |
12:54 | look at this file for other errors.. | |
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12:57 | veryinky | Blarg. Why do I keep forgetting to log off from computers. |
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13:04 | CGI985 | masonj: r u there? |
13:06 | masonj | sort of |
13:06 | CGI985 | here in my region no one is using koha, so no one b available to see my work |
13:08 | masonj | koha is just a LAMP app |
13:08 | CGI985 | mean? |
13:08 | masonj | many people in your region understand LAMP :) |
13:08 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L[…](software_bundle) | |
13:09 | tail -f /var/log/koha/koha-opac-error_log | |
13:09 | CGI985 | masonj: wht should I do now? should I run remaining commands of koha installation or first solve this problem |
13:09 | masonj | look in your log file.... |
13:10 | solve this problem | |
13:10 | koha user needs access to your DB | |
13:11 | ... to complete the install | |
13:12 | CGI985 | this command is not working ' tail: invalid option--/ |
13:14 | ropuch_ is now known as skrzek | |
13:16 | CGI985 | masonj: this command is not working 'tail -f/var/log/koha-opac-error_log' |
13:16 | masonj | '-f /' |
13:17 | theres a space there... | |
13:17 | CGI985 | ok |
13:18 | masonj | restart apache and mysql ... |
13:19 | $ lynx 10.1.2.36:80 | |
13:19 | CGI985 | when I try to restart apache, it show the same error |
13:19 | masonj | $ tail -f /var/log/koha/koha-opac-error_log |
13:19 | Ropuch | without leading $ |
13:19 | ;> | |
13:19 | masonj | what error? |
13:20 | ah , this error.. | |
13:20 | http://pastebin.org/61763 | |
13:21 | err, is your password actually '12'? | |
13:21 | in both yr conf file , and your db? | |
13:23 | me asks a silly question... | |
13:23 | CGI985 | db have 12 passwd |
13:23 | but conf? | |
13:24 | masonj | yr conf does too.. |
13:24 | http://pastebin.org/61770 | |
13:24 | <pass>12</pass> | |
13:24 | CGI985 | I run tail command since long but still in process, so Im waiting for see its result |
13:24 | masonj | so... |
13:25 | mysql -u kohaadmin -p12 koha | |
13:25 | this works for you? | |
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13:25 | masonj | Welcome to the MySQL monitor. Commands end with ; or \g. |
13:25 | Your MySQL connection id is 1774 | |
13:25 | Server version: 5.0.51a-24+lenny2 (Debian) | |
13:25 | Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the buffer. | |
13:25 | mysql> | |
13:25 | . | |
13:25 | you get that? | |
13:26 | CGI985 | still i previous command have not completed, but still in process |
13:26 | tail -f /var/log/koha/koha-opac-error_log | |
13:27 | masonj | it doesnt complete :/ |
13:27 | ? | |
13:27 | CGI985 | no it is in process since long |
13:27 | masonj | erm |
13:27 | CGI985 | I dont know |
13:27 | mean> | |
13:27 | ? | |
13:27 | masonj | its not supposed to complete |
13:28 | CGI985 | so should i press ctrl-z |
13:28 | masonj | sure.. |
13:29 | CGI985 | yes I get it |
13:29 | mysql -u kohaadmin -p12 koha | |
13:29 | mysql> | |
13:30 | masonj | ok, i have run out of ideas :/ |
13:31 | CGI985 | ok so should I go forward to complete installation |
13:32 | plz read this not... whtz its meaning? http://pastebin.org/61782 | |
13:34 | masonj | pass ? |
13:35 | the next thing *i* would do i turn up the DBI logging , on line 665 | |
13:35 | CGI985 | this is the note from documentation of install.debian-lenny |
13:37 | nengard | hi all - anyone know what a CAS login is? I'm seeing this on my OPAC now... |
13:37 | CGI985 | I m not understanding ur this sentence "the next thing *i* would do i turn up the DBI logging , on line 665" |
13:37 | masonj: plz tell me simply | |
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13:38 | jwagner | nengard, online? |
13:38 | masonj | The following fatal error has occurred: |
13:38 | Access denied for user 'kohaadmin'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at /usr/sha | |
13:38 | re/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 666. | |
13:38 | nengard | jwagner yup |
13:38 | jwagner | Your report on Bug 3868 -- is this with the newest head? |
13:38 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3868 major, P5, ---, colin.campbellptfs-europe.com, NEW, Patron Messages Appearing in Both Places |
13:39 | nengard | jwagner yup |
13:39 | masonj | i cant explain how to do that simply, its complex ;) |
13:39 | CGI985 | masonj: then wht steps? |
13:39 | nengard | jwagner it worked a-ok before that upgrade |
13:39 | i'm going through and working on the documentation for 3.2 and as I do I find these little things | |
13:40 | jwagner | nengard, sounds like something got reversed in the updated head -- gmcharlt, check? |
13:40 | masonj | send an email 'Kohalists.katipo.co.nz' |
13:40 | jwagner | I don't have a system updated to current head yet. |
13:40 | masonj | descibing your problem |
13:40 | nengard | jwagner - colin does - that's why i included you both in that bug report :) |
13:41 | jwagner | OK, thanks. |
13:41 | masonj | you have a tricky typo somewhere |
13:42 | try some fresh reinstalls | |
13:42 | you cannot complete yr install until you fix this error | |
13:42 | kf | pootle is moody |
13:43 | CGI985 | wht should I do reinstall |
13:43 | masonj | reinstall koha |
13:44 | try a 'dev' install | |
13:44 | CGI985 | masonj: and should I overide on current one |
13:44 | masonj | its what most developers use |
13:44 | yep | |
13:44 | CGI985 | ok |
13:44 | masonj | http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]lopment:git_usage |
13:45 | keep trying you are close.. :) | |
13:45 | CGI985 | thnx for encouraging. hope u will b around if any prob occur |
13:45 | masonj | yep, no problemo ;) |
13:46 | you did a good job , so far ! | |
13:47 | double-check your directory paths | |
13:47 | i suspect a typo with them | |
13:48 | CGI985 | sure.. Im now more consious |
13:51 | owen | Hi #koha |
13:54 | jwagner | Good morning, owen |
13:55 | gmcharlt_ | hitting the road; offline for a few hours |
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13:57 | CGI985 | masonj:how can I select dev. it is bydefault standard |
13:57 | and when I want to change it, it is not changing | |
13:58 | masonj | type 'dev', then press the enter key |
13:58 | CGI985 | ok |
13:59 | masonj: I have succefully installed koha2.9 on windows but z39.50 was not working in windows | |
14:00 | thz y I switched to debian. and I m new in linux | |
14:04 | masonj | ahh, ok |
14:05 | CGI985 | perl Makefile.PL |
14:05 | it show some warning, may I carry on. | |
14:07 | masonj | |
14:07 | may I move forward | |
14:07 | owen | CGI985: I was trying an install on Debian over the weekend and ran into the same thing: warnings about prerequisites not installed |
14:07 | Ropuch | What dependencies are you missing? |
14:07 | Hi owen | |
14:08 | CGI985 | ropuch: r u with me... |
14:09 | owen | CGI985: I wonder if you got the same message: http://old.nabble.com/A-couple[…]s-td26658585.html |
14:09 | Ropuch | CGI985: be back in 30 minutes - but if you're missing IPC::Cmd you can move on |
14:09 | owen | Ropuch: Can move on? |
14:09 | CGI985 | ropuch ipc::Cmd and three others |
14:12 | warning are pasted on http://pastebin.org/61798 | |
14:17 | is any one there to guide me?/ | |
14:17 | masonj r u there? | |
14:18 | owen | CGI985: Sometimes you just have to be patient and wait for the next expert to become available |
14:18 | I'm interested in finding out the answer to your question too | |
14:19 | CGI985 | owen:ok.. |
14:20 | masonj | 3am here, i am done.. |
14:21 | owen | I should say so masonj |
14:31 | Ropuch | owen: my library is working on install without IPC::Cmd dependency fulfilled |
14:32 | owen | I wonder what it's for? |
14:33 | Ropuch | IPC::Cmd - finding and running system commands made easy, sounds important ;> |
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14:35 | owen | Looks like it's used by the installer. You'd think that would be important |
14:35 | Ropuch | grep IPC::Cmd returns only 4 file |
14:36 | owen | install.pl line 15 "use IPC::Cmd;" |
14:36 | Ropuch | owen: i thinks IPC:Cmd is actually a must, but the version number don't need to match |
14:36 | I have 0.41 | |
14:37 | owen | Hm, could be. The warning I got was about an outdated version (.401) |
14:37 | Ropuch | Same here |
14:37 | owen | But then again my install wasn't entirely successful :) |
14:38 | Ropuch | As long as my library is up and running I consider instal a full success ;> |
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14:47 | owen | So if Makefile.PL returns warnings about missing prerequisites, one should continue with the Koha install, but install the missing prerequisites after? |
14:50 | magnusenger | um, i would install the prerequisites, then run Makefile.PL again to see if it's satisfied |
14:50 | * jdavidb | agrees with magnusenger. |
14:50 | owen | So, CGI985, I guess that's your answer |
14:51 | magnusenger | ...and if it isn't: fix the problems before proceeding |
14:53 | owen | Anyone know the correct package name for IPC::Cmd ? |
14:55 | CGI985: You still around? | |
14:56 | Ropuch | owen: IPC::Open2, IPC::Open3, IPC::Cmd) which are in fact in standard Perl distribution so they can be used without worries. |
14:57 | owen | Ropuch: I mean if one were to do "apt-get install XX" I'm always confused about whether a package doesn't exist or whether I'm just not finding it on packages.debian.org |
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15:08 | masonj | owen: IPC::Cmd is the correct name |
15:08 | owen | Hi wizzyrea |
15:08 | masonj: For the debian package? Or does there not exist a debian package for it? | |
15:09 | masonj: Shouldn't you be in bed? :) | |
15:09 | jdavidb | Hi, wizzyrea! Everyone get well over the weekend? |
15:10 | masonj | http://packages.debian.org/sea[…]table§ion=all |
15:10 | i cant actually see it there.. :/ | |
15:10 | owen | Heh: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin[…]rt.cgi?bug=539905 |
15:11 | gmcharlt is looking out for us | |
15:13 | Does libgd-gd2-perl == "GD 2.39" as reported missing by Makefile.PL? | |
15:14 | wizzyrea | my hubs is still sick-ish, and we're all still coughing a bit, but no more fever |
15:16 | jdavidb | well, that's an improvement, at least. |
15:16 | nengard | can someone point me to the template file for the staff login page? |
15:17 | owen | nengard: modules/auth.tmpl |
15:17 | nengard | thanks owen |
15:17 | owen | nengard: I'm curious if you got your authorities import to work? |
15:17 | nengard | no - but that's cause i couldn't find a file that worked - i think |
15:18 | owen | So a download from LOC didn't work? |
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15:19 | nengard | grr - okay where is the link to the self checkout page? it's on my login page - but not on auth.tmpl |
15:19 | owen | nengard: intranetuserjs? |
15:19 | nengard | ah |
15:19 | hehe | |
15:19 | thanks | |
15:20 | CGI985 | owen: Im here |
15:21 | owen | I can remember that but I can't remember [x number of important things] |
15:21 | CGI985: Did you get your missing prerequisites installed? | |
15:21 | nengard | owen - one more :) where is intranetuserjs? |
15:21 | thought this would be an easy fix | |
15:21 | guess i was wrong | |
15:21 | can't find a thing | |
15:22 | owen | nengard: I mean is that a customization in the intranetuserjs system pref? |
15:22 | Or is that something new in 3.2? | |
15:22 | nengard | oh - did I do that myself? off to check my preferences - hehe -silly me |
15:22 | Ropuch | nengard: /cgi-bin/koha/admin/systempreferences.pl?tab=StaffClient |
15:23 | nengard | owen you're right - I did it - it's all my fault - bug removed and off to fix documentation |
15:23 | CGI985 | owen: I was away from my pc, now Im reading |
15:25 | * owen | twiddles his thumbs and waits for his patrons to import |
15:35 | nengard | owen - while you do that - want to find out what tags I use to get code to appear as code in docbook? I found a bunch of contradicting things and none seem to look right |
15:35 | :) | |
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15:42 | owen | Weird logout error in the latest OPAC |
15:42 | it's trying to redirect me to another port | |
15:44 | Oh, because there's a URL listed in the casServerUrl system pref | |
15:44 | That doesn't seem like something that should be filled by default | |
15:47 | nengard | owen - i reported a bug for that |
15:47 | the log out thing | |
15:47 | owen | Yeah, just modified it |
15:48 | nengard | oh okay - was just gonna give you the link :) |
15:48 | owen | The CAS authentication stuff needs to be turned off, then logging in and out works. |
15:48 | nengard | do you know what CAS is? |
15:49 | owen | I don't. http://www.jasig.org/cas maybe? |
15:50 | nengard | hmmm - we need to explain that further - and you're right they shouldn't be on by default |
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15:55 | CGI985 | owen: r u there? |
15:55 | owen | Yes |
15:56 | CGI985 | so I have to 1st install dependencies |
15:56 | owen | Sounds like that is recommended. |
15:56 | CGI985 | but how can I install ? |
15:58 | owen: could u guide me plz, as Im confused yet... | |
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15:58 | Ropuch | CGI985: remind me what madules you're missing |
15:59 | CGI985 | Ropuch:http://pastebin.org/61798 |
16:07 | owen | It's recommended to use the Debian package wherever possible. That's why I asked about whether libgd-gd2-perl == "GD 2.39" |
16:07 | Can anyone confirm? | |
16:07 | IPC::Cmd doesn't have a package, so it must be installed via CPAN | |
16:08 | sudo cpan IPC::Cmd GD::Barcode::UPCE | |
16:09 | sudo apt-get install libpdf-reuse-barcode-perl | |
16:09 | * nengard | on library 2.0 gang call |
16:09 | owen | Someone please correct me if I'm wrong |
16:09 | hdl_laptop | you are not |
16:10 | owen | Hi hdl_laptop |
16:10 | hdl_laptop | hi owen |
16:10 | howdy ? | |
16:14 | owen | Howdy works :) |
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16:58 | brendan | morning all |
17:00 | owen | Hi brendan |
17:00 | brendan | hey owen - how's your install going? |
17:01 | owen | I'm not working on it at the moment. That was on my VM at home. |
17:01 | Anyone else finding that they're not shown their logged-in branch in the staff client in the latest HEAD? | |
17:09 | * nengard | done with podcast |
17:10 | nengard | owen - nope - I see my branch a-ok |
17:10 | CGI985 | brendan: here is still night |
17:11 | owen | Hmmm... probably messed up my branch tables |
17:11 | Yup. Bug report averted. | |
17:19 | CGI985 | 'make test' show some failed. is it error or not? http://pastebin.org/61840 |
17:26 | owen | I second the question. How concerned should one be about problems reported by 'make test' ? |
17:29 | rhcl is now known as rhcl_away | |
17:32 | * owen | will take his answer off the air |
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17:35 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
17:35 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 8.9�C (9:32 AM PST on December 07, 2009). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005.0 hPa (Falling). High wind watch in effect from this evening through late tonight... |
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17:36 | CGI985 | 'make test' show some failed. is it error or not? http://pastebin.org/61840 |
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17:44 | CGI985 | is any one there to suggest me? |
17:49 | hi any one?? | |
17:54 | Im waiting for response of any | |
17:55 | can any body guide me that I notice some erros during make test | |
17:55 | so should I continue and skip or fixed it | |
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18:10 | pianohacker | Hallo |
18:10 | CGI985 | hi |
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18:30 | owen | I'm still curious about CGI985's question if anyone knows the answer: If "make test" shows some failures, should one be concerned? |
18:34 | pianohacker | Depends on the failures |
18:36 | The date tests seem to fail a lot, for no appreciable reason | |
18:36 | owen | How does one know whether a failure is worth worrying about? |
18:41 | chris | well, really nothing should fail except maybe the database tests (if you dont have a database set up) so tests failing should actually be a bug and should be fixed ... or actually be a problem, the user shouldnt have to guess wether its a safe fail or not |
18:41 | at the moment, there is no way for you to know owen, so its best to just ignore it and continue | |
18:42 | owen | Aye aye Cap'n. |
18:42 | brendan | heh |
18:42 | * chris | goes to catch his bus |
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19:07 | pianohacker | hi, cait |
19:07 | cait | hi pianohacker, hi all |
19:18 | nengard | k - done with the cataloging bibs & items documentation ... moving along nicely |
19:18 | and just telling you all so i can take a break from staring at the docs :) hehe | |
19:18 | cait | :) |
19:19 | joetho | I use this as my reference for making up reports- is it the current one for version 3.01? |
19:19 | http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]cture.sql;hb=HEAD | |
19:19 | ( table structure ) | |
19:19 | nengard | pianohacker - did you know about the new sys prefs added by the recent biblibre updates? if not should I bug report them to you so you know to add them to the sys prefs additions? |
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19:20 | nengard | joetho that's for HEAD - meaning the working branch where we're all submitting patches and such |
19:21 | I think you want this one: http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]f80edc8dd;hb=HEAD | |
19:21 | it's the 3.0x working branch | |
19:25 | joetho | good enough for me. Thanks nicole engard and MERRY CHRISTMAS MONTH! |
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19:36 | chris | back |
19:39 | cait | hi chris |
19:42 | chris | hiya cait |
19:43 | * cait | translating :) |
19:44 | owen | Now that I'm working on VM's instead of a remote server I'm thinking about how to coordinate my work with git |
19:44 | I can set up a remote git repo, but I'm not sure what the correct procedure is for syncing with it | |
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19:48 | richard | hi |
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20:06 | veryinky | :| |
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20:12 | hdl_laptop | hi chris |
20:16 | owen: the "make test" pastebin reported no real blocker error, unless you want to print labels. | |
20:17 | owen | I was just curious about how to analyze those errors. Those were actually someone else's errors (he left) |
20:17 | But yeah, why wouldn't I want to print labels? :) | |
20:19 | hdl_laptop | only because chris_n heavily rewrote this part, and it should make its way, and i think he had no time to adapt those tests to what he wrote. |
20:19 | but chris_n can object. | |
20:19 | or confirm | |
20:20 | about your remote server. | |
20:20 | I think you could do it with regular git pull --rebase from a repository. | |
20:21 | owen | Can you explain? |
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20:21 | hdl_laptop | lets say machine A contains branch blabla |
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20:22 | hdl_laptop | and machine B has a clone of this repository and has a branch Mylocalblabla tracking branch blabla of machine A |
20:22 | you can have a cronjob | |
20:23 | which updates regularly the code of machine B based on machine A | |
20:23 | is it somewhat clearer ? | |
20:24 | I say so because pushing or making a hook in your machine A doesnot seem to be the correct way to do things. | |
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20:25 | hdl_laptop | at least it is my experience, maybe chris or #git can confirm. |
20:25 | owen | Still confused. I don't understand how changes to my local branch are making it to the remote repo |
20:25 | hdl_laptop | on the remote repo you add a remote source |
20:26 | git remote add owen ssh://localmachine/mylocalrepo | |
20:26 | and you have a cron which does : | |
20:26 | git remote update owen | |
20:27 | git rebase owen/branchyouworkon | |
20:27 | owen: clearer ? | |
20:29 | owen | I'm not sure about ssh://localmachine when the local machine is a virtual one. |
20:31 | hdl_laptop | mmm is it a VirtualBox or a VMware virtual box ? |
20:31 | owen | VirtualBox |
20:34 | Genji | Anyone know Zebra innards here? |
20:35 | hdl_laptop | depends |
20:37 | owen: I think virtualbox can be told which IP to set to a virtual machine. If not, you could add your localmachine to /etc/hosts and use the name you choos in /etc/hosts | |
20:37 | Genji: ask. | |
20:37 | owen | thanks hdl_laptop, I'll have to look into it when I'm back on that computer. |
20:38 | Genji | hdl_laptop: im trying to do ,st-numeric,ge but get relational not supported. |
20:39 | hdl_laptop | i saw you tried with date and it was a semi success. |
20:39 | It is quite surprising. | |
20:39 | Genji | hdl_laptop: Indexed field by y and n..... st-numeric= doesn't work... st-year only works if its =, doesn't support relationals either. |
20:40 | hdl_laptop | I used st-year with success with relationals. |
20:40 | so I am surprised. | |
20:40 | (well, in fact I used pqf search directly) | |
20:40 | Genji | hdl_laptop: used prefix language too.. same result. |
20:47 | chris | http://blog.cr2.in/2009/12/07/[…]-enterprise-koha/ |
20:47 | liblime-- | |
20:51 | Genji | idiots... |
20:51 | liblime-- | |
20:52 | Ropuch | LibLime and the LibLime logo, Koha and LibLime Enterprise Koha are either registered trademarks or trademarks of LibLime. |
20:53 | Genji | Ya, noticed that. |
20:53 | chris | its true |
20:53 | Ropuch | I know |
20:53 | But still it makes me nervous ;> | |
20:53 | chris | it makes me angry |
20:54 | Ropuch | Same as "no vendor loc-in" as a part of LEK features |
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20:54 | chris | LibLime Enterprise Koha is built on over two years of completed customer-sponsored development, including several highly-anticipated academic and consortia features. |
20:54 | so does that line | |
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20:55 | cait | :( |
20:57 | pie | I can't believe they're still talking about Open Source, when nothing they do is related at all |
20:59 | Genji | Its possibly just one guy. |
21:01 | chris | no its not |
21:01 | there are at least 5 people at liblime | |
21:01 | (lots less than the 16 or so) | |
21:01 | but not just one | |
21:01 | Genji | Okay, at least 5..... supporting how many libraries? |
21:01 | chris | joshua, tina, marc, bev, cecilia, maria |
21:02 | then ryan as well, and susan | |
21:02 | so maybe 7 | |
21:02 | i dont think the number matters it the lack of ethics and lies that matter | |
21:03 | and i wonder if ASCC even realise they don't have Koha | |
21:04 | Genji | Think someone should tell them? |
21:12 | chris | they'll figure it out |
21:12 | Genji | might be too late, already. |
21:12 | chris | well yeah, they have probably signed a 3 year deal or something |
21:18 | Ropuch | The other sad option is that they just don't care |
21:18 | chris | yeah, i hope thats not the case |
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21:21 | Genji | LL support = no support? |
21:23 | chris | only LL customers could tell you that |
21:24 | Genji | The email on Koha suggest little support. if any. |
21:28 | Nate | whos got 2 migrations? |
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21:28 | Ropuch | chris: can you give me admin rights to polish 3.2 translations? |
21:29 | chris | i thought i already did that last night? |
21:29 | cait | good night #koha |
21:29 | chris | Nate: 2 migrations? |
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21:30 | Nate | scratch that...sorry |
21:30 | chris | Ropuch: yes i did that last night when you asked :) |
21:30 | Ropuch | Hm |
21:30 | chris | you have overview, archive, view, suggest, translate,compile po files rights |
21:31 | wizzyrea | Genji: if by support you mean helping resolve issues related to your koha install, then little support is correct. |
21:32 | (I did get a one day turnaround on a SIP config change last week, but that was abnormal( | |
21:32 | (and I sent the instructions on how to fix it to them) | |
21:32 | Ropuch | chris: sorry, you're right: I have "Administrate" link near 3.0 projects |
21:33 | And I was sure same should appear by 3.2 | |
21:33 | But i have the rights to change translations, thanks :) | |
21:34 | chris | cool |
21:34 | Ropuch | Indeed [; |
21:37 | I must have messed something, i have 3932 total in opac when other langauages have 5865 | |
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21:37 | CGI508 | hi my name is nelson |
21:38 | hey guys | |
21:39 | Ropuch | Hello Nelson |
21:40 | CGI508 | hey ropuch! Do u have an interest in computer software? |
21:40 | pastebot | "hdl_laptop" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "searching dates with relational elements" (16 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/82 |
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21:41 | hdl_laptop | Genji: I tried your search. |
21:41 | Ropuch | wow |
21:41 | hdl_laptop | And it worked. |
21:41 | Ropuch | Am I interested in computer software? It's like asking if I'm interested in eating food |
21:44 | Genji | hdl_laptop: ya.... but thats pubdate inside 008. |
21:44 | owen | Ropuch: That was either a returning troll or a returning bot |
21:44 | Genji | im dealing with pubdate inside of 260$c... |
21:44 | hdl_laptop | Genji: I donot have any 008 : Unimarc |
21:45 | Genji | Ah. Whats your record.abs line for pubdate? |
21:46 | hdl_laptop | see http://paste.workbuffer.org/83 |
21:47 | brendan | Genji - I believe 260$c is the copydate |
21:47 | Genji | hmm.. whats Breaking characters? |
21:47 | brendan | pubdate is in the leader 008 |
21:47 | hdl_laptop | It is in numeric.chr |
21:47 | Genji | brendan: the library im working for, put pubdate in 260$c |
21:48 | brendan | advance search in the opac - is for pubdate |
21:48 | which is pulled from 008/7-10, indexed in year,word,num,sort indexes | |
21:48 | so I think your going to want to change that to search the copydate | |
21:49 | copydate [yyyy] (260$c, indexed in word and sort indexes) | |
21:49 | at least from my record.abs | |
21:50 | Genji | Hmm.... everything was changed from copydate to pubdate instead. In bib1.att, and record.abs |
21:57 | hdl_laptop | have you checked 260$c is indexed as pubdate ? |
21:57 | Going to bed now. | |
21:58 | Genji | hdl_laptop: Yes, pubdate is being indexed. |
21:59 | hdl_laptop | annoying. |
21:59 | have you checked it was indexed as n ? | |
21:59 | and not w ? | |
22:00 | maybe it is also indexed as w and messed the stuff. | |
22:00 | Good night | |
22:01 | Genji | suppose i could take away its W. |
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22:58 | ian | asks all and sundry: how do you ask for the biblionumbers of all items from the reserves tables for where there are, say 10 or more reserves on the bib? |
23:03 | SelfishMan | I moved the wiki archive if anyone still needs it. New address is wget -O /dev/null http://cdn.bitl.in/wiki.koha.org-12042009.tar.bz2 |
23:03 | ah, dammit | |
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23:03 | SelfishMan | well, link is valid just ignore the wget junk ;-P |
23:16 | * pianohacker | is coming to the discussion of ascc's go-live |
23:16 | pianohacker | late |
23:18 | I'm particularly annoyed because me and two coworkers have been demonstrating and pushing open-source to ASCC and CLiC (a supporting group) for about a year now, and demoing koha, and really trying to encourage a move to Koha by ASCC through liblime which was at the time trustworthy | |
23:18 | Regardless of how much of a part we played, it is still annoying | |
23:20 | chris | i hear that |
23:20 | * Genji | nods. "I feel your pain." |
23:21 | pianohacker | technicalities--- |
23:21 | Genji | Creating a webpage to out all this publicly, would be classed defamation? |
23:21 | chris | its only defamation if its not true |
23:21 | pianohacker | Genji: Would depend heavily on the tone :) |
23:22 | Calmly putting out the facts might help | |
23:22 | Demonizing liblime, as utterly tempting as it might be, would probably only cause them to dig in further and make any reconciliation more difficult | |
23:23 | * Genji | nods.... "So, its likely more people will get ensnared in Liblime unknowingly?" |
23:24 | pianohacker | To be sure, we need to get it out there |
23:25 | It depends a lot on where we go after noche buena (dec 24th) | |
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23:46 | Genji | Wow.. google has started doing almost realtime updates. |
23:47 | hdl_laptop's paste showed up in google. | |
23:51 | okay, just reindexed with 260$c pubdate:n, pubdate:s ..... im getting no results with 4=109 | |
23:52 | Without 4=109.. I get Unsupported Use Attribute. | |
23:52 | pianohacker | Genji: What is the exact procedure you're using to search? |
23:54 | Genji | auth koha kohap |
23:54 | open localhost:9999 (sucessful, im in) | |
23:54 | find @attr 1=31 @attr 2=3 @attr 4=109 1981 | |
23:55 | No results, search successful. There should be results. | |
23:55 | find @attr 1=31 @attr 2=3 1981 | |
23:55 | Unsupported Use attribute | |
23:55 | For 31. | |
23:56 | pianohacker | What is the @attr 2=3 for? I'm guessing it's a comparison attribute, but why is it necessary? |
23:57 | Genji | Not really, just explicitly say that Im looking for equality. with 4=109, 2=4 is successful (no result when there should be though) |
23:57 | Im guessing, the default 'find' is word index based? | |
23:58 | pianohacker | Genji: What about a plain find @attr 1=31 1981 ? |
23:59 | Genji: yaz-client uses PQF (the @attr stuff) by default; you would need to set it to ccl syntax to search using word indexes | |
23:59 | (I think ccl) |
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