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00:11 | rich-away is now known as richard | |
00:12 | Genji | hiya richard~ |
00:12 | richard | hi Genji |
00:12 | Genji | read the log of the meeting? |
00:13 | richard | been in perpetual meetings but will have a look |
00:14 | Genji | the question came up, who will host a new koha website, if negotiations with LL fail? A poetic answer would be Katipo. Katipo + HLT, back together again kinda thing. Catalyst is also a possiblity. Whats your opinion? |
00:15 | Topic for #koha is now Discussion channel for the Koha ILS | Next general IRC meeting at 19:00 UTC+0 on 13 January 2010 | Logged at http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/today | |
00:15 | Genji | pianohacker++ |
00:16 | pianohacker | I've also had the pastebot crammed in there, but I think the log is more important |
00:20 | richard | ah sorry called away. yeah we would be happy to host it |
00:21 | Genji | WooT! |
00:26 | brendan | MARC21slim2intranetDetail.xsl |
00:26 | is that available anywhere? | |
00:27 | I can only find the UNIMARC version on the git tree | |
00:40 | rhcl is now known as rhcl_away | |
00:42 | jransom left #koha | |
01:22 | Genji | okay, im out for a bit. gotta go shopping. laters all. |
01:22 | * Genji | Genji_spidering |
01:23 | Genji is now known as Genji_spidering | |
01:23 | Genji_spidering | updated stats: 357 MB 6284 files |
01:24 | I believe the Koha community has written quite a few books worth of wiki | |
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01:36 | jransom | can someone who does the message at the top for next meetings make sure that the 5 jan meeting for koha community is recorded somewhere too please. |
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02:06 | pianohacker | jransom: Anyone can change the topic |
02:06 | using the /topic command | |
02:25 | jransom | ohh - well there you go :) |
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03:15 | SelfishMan | Is the stuff from this morning posted yet? |
03:15 | s/this morning/7 hours ago/ | |
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03:21 | Amit | hi brendan, chris. chris_n2 |
03:21 | brendan | hi amit |
03:21 | if you wanted to reread it --> http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/today | |
03:21 | sorry amit - that wasn't for you :) | |
03:21 | how are you today amit | |
03:22 | Amit | everything is fine |
03:28 | @wunder New Delhi India | |
03:28 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 14.0�C (8:30 AM IST on December 04, 2009). Conditions: Shallow Fog. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
03:28 | Amit | @wunder Dehradun India |
03:28 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 13.0�C (5:30 AM IST on December 04, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015 hPa. |
03:28 | Amit | @wunder Bangalore India |
03:28 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 21.0�C (5:30 AM IST on December 04, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. |
03:51 | pianohacker | @wunder 81212 |
03:51 | munin | pianohacker: The current temperature in Franklin Ave - Downtown, Canon City, Colorado is -10.5�C (8:45 PM MST on December 03, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -17.0�C. Windchill: -10.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1021.9 hPa (Steady). |
03:51 | pianohacker | christ on a pony, I didn't realize it was that cold |
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04:31 | Genji_spidering | wow.. wiki.koha... 427 MB and still going. |
04:32 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
04:32 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 9.0�C (8:26 PM PST on December 03, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Rising). |
04:32 | brendan | brrr.... |
04:32 | I don't get close to pianhacker's temp | |
04:32 | errr... pianohacker's | |
04:32 | but still cold for us | |
04:33 | bbiab | |
04:33 | pianohacker | evil, evil canadian air (apparently that's the cause of 15° temps on a sunny day) |
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04:45 | Genji_spidering | this is insane... 433 mb of wiki. |
04:48 | pianohacker | maybe some uploaded media? |
04:49 | Genji_spidering | maybe some circular references... might of made the mistake of making depth too deep. |
05:00 | does anyone have an estimate at how big the wiki is? | |
05:43 | * pianohacker | shrugs |
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05:47 | Genji_spidering | stopped using httrack... showed signs of going forever. now trying out pavel |
05:47 | err.. pavuk. | |
05:48 | which is also stupid. | |
05:48 | doesn't give me the urls in the names. | |
05:49 | ... I hereby realise that LL has done us a huge disservice. | |
05:51 | pianohacker | Genji_spidering: If you're willing to get page names and do a bit of scripting, you could use this: http://www.dokuwiki.org/export |
05:55 | Genji_spidering | seems like, if we had access to the ftp ... this could be done quite easily. |
05:55 | Anyway, ill start again with it tomorrow. net gets slloooowww about this time. | |
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06:02 | SelfishMan | yep |
06:04 | Genji: how many objects did you fetch with httrack? | |
06:05 | Somehow, I'm over 1.6GB but it keeps fetching what looks like legit objects | |
06:06 | 25,308 objects retrieved | |
06:06 | Genji | omg... |
06:06 | SelfishMan | I think it might be time to stop |
06:06 | Genji | only got up to 7k. |
06:06 | SelfishMan | last fetched: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]n%3Aorganisations |
06:06 | Genji | maybe some are aliases. |
06:06 | i have no idea. | |
06:07 | SelfishMan | I honestly might just let it run |
06:07 | * Genji | nods. 1.6G.... can you afford to let it run? |
06:07 | SelfishMan | oh yeah |
06:08 | I have plenty of bandwidth and disk space to spare | |
06:08 | Genji | what are you using anyway? |
06:08 | SelfishMan | wget still |
06:08 | Genji | Ah. much better than httrack. |
06:08 | SelfishMan | Aren't there still ll people in here? |
06:08 | Genji | Some links you don't need.. like backtrack links and export_ links. |
06:08 | pianohacker | SelfishMan: not for a while |
06:09 | Genji | @seen josh |
06:09 | munin | Genji: I have not seen josh. |
06:09 | Genji | @seen kados |
06:09 | SelfishMan | hmm |
06:09 | munin | Genji: I have not seen kados. |
06:09 | Genji | @seen Joshua |
06:09 | munin | Genji: I have not seen Joshua. |
06:09 | pianohacker | atz and gmcharlt (when they worked for liblime) were the only ones |
06:09 | SelfishMan | 25,444 objects |
06:09 | 25,468 objects | |
06:09 | increasing fairly fast | |
06:09 | ah, ok | |
06:10 | I probably should have made it play nice | |
06:11 | Genji | looking at wget docs.. i have no idea if it can exclude links when mirroring. |
06:11 | SelfishMan | oh crap |
06:11 | Genji | what? |
06:11 | SelfishMan | I think I forgot to restrict it to wiki.koha.org |
06:11 | Genji | ... |
06:11 | And how deep did you let it go? | |
06:11 | SelfishMan | it spidered into other sites but that should be only one level |
06:11 | Genji | k. |
06:14 | SelfishMan | http://selfishman.net/wikispider.txt |
06:14 | currently fetched pages | |
06:19 | Genji | ya, you got some unnecessary pages. |
06:19 | wiki.koha.org/doku.php?do=export_xhtml&id=acquisition | |
06:20 | for instance] | |
06:21 | wiki.koha.org/doku.php?do=export_raw&id=rachelskatipoplan | |
06:21 | SelfishMan | Yeah, I figured as much |
06:21 | Genji | export_raw's would of given you less mb's. |
06:21 | SelfishMan | but I didn't really specify any restrictions and I'm not up for restarting it |
06:21 | * Genji | nods. "Agreed.. so just let it run. |
06:23 | Genji | hoping that it compresses well. |
06:40 | imp | 32M 4. Dez 07:38 koha-bugs.tar.gz |
06:40 | Genji | that all of them, imp? |
06:41 | imp | yes, i'm to lazy to remove the ones that does not exists (but they are only 12 lines long, so i really don't care) |
06:42 | Genji | Cool. |
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06:43 | chris | well done guys |
06:43 | Genji | I tried, failed. theres just too much. |
06:44 | Wish there was a 'export' button... or a list of all the pages that actually exist on doku. | |
06:44 | chris | there are a bunch of features if you have admin access |
06:45 | i was talking to some colleagues at beer oclock | |
06:45 | im going to look into launchpad | |
06:45 | Genji | whats launchpad? |
06:46 | chris | https://launchpad.net/ |
06:46 | does stuff like https://launchpad.net/gwibber | |
06:46 | of course the most famous is | |
06:47 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu | |
06:47 | Genji | does anyone not LL have admin access to doku? |
06:47 | chris | no |
06:48 | Genji | Mmmhmm.... no vendor lock in... |
06:50 | Whats the namespace of the wiki? | |
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06:50 | chris_n2 | g'night |
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06:57 | Ropuch | Morning #koha |
06:58 | imp | heyho Ropuch |
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07:04 | nicomo | morning koha |
07:13 | Ropuch | Hello imp, nicomo |
07:14 | nicomo | hello Ropuch |
07:27 | brendan | morning nicomo |
07:28 | * brendan | just heading to bed :) |
07:28 | nicomo | hi brendan |
07:28 | what time is it? | |
07:28 | brendan | 23:30 |
07:28 | imp | 8:26 (at least for me) |
07:28 | nicomo | imp: yes, we're in the same time zone :-) |
07:28 | brendan | Sonja (my wife) and I just watched a horrible movie |
07:29 | nicomo | horror or horrible? |
07:29 | brendan | horrible |
07:29 | hence why we are awake so late | |
07:29 | nicomo | what was it? |
07:29 | brendan | Angels and Demons |
07:29 | * brendan | hangs his head in shame |
07:30 | nicomo | eh eh |
07:30 | brendan | I feel like a guilt dog |
07:30 | errr. guilty | |
07:30 | nicomo | 2 days ago I watched Goldfinger, the 1964 James Bond |
07:30 | ho-rri-ble | |
07:30 | imp | :D |
07:30 | the old bond movies are funny imho | |
07:31 | brendan | nicomo - that is / was an excellent old bond movie |
07:31 | nicomo | in a 2d degree sort of way, i guess |
07:31 | brendan | but I do have to say --- is very dated now |
07:31 | ok - off to bed | |
07:31 | good night all | |
07:31 | :) | |
07:31 | imp | gn8 |
07:31 | nicomo | ok, see ya brendan |
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08:16 | kf | hi #koha |
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08:21 | chris | hi kf |
08:22 | Ropuch | Guten Tag, kf [; |
08:22 | Hi chris | |
08:22 | kf | hi chris |
08:22 | * kf | working on translation... again ;) |
08:22 | Ropuch | ;> |
08:22 | chris | :) |
08:22 | Ropuch | I've just switched from gtranslator to lokalize |
08:24 | ftherese | I still can't figure out why the response time is so slow... I enabled some of the extensions on apache, but simply accessing the front page even on the server serving as localhost there is a ridiculous amount of delay in the response |
08:25 | I can't reasonably expect my librarians to convert to koha if simply adding one book to the database, or even just clicking around the menus is going to be this unresponsive... I am sure that something must be mis-configured | |
08:28 | I just wonder what the heck it could be doing with the requests that takes it so long to respond | |
08:28 | cups responds almost instantaneously | |
08:28 | koha drags its feet even just to cycle through to a different menu item | |
08:30 | cups takes 2 sec. from the moment the menu item is clicked, koha takes 10 sec. | |
08:30 | chris | yeah thats not right |
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08:32 | SelfishMan | Well, I think I will have every edit and bit of info on the wiki in multiple formats |
08:33 | fredericd | ftherese: How is configured your yuipath syspref? |
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09:10 | CGI348 | hi all |
09:12 | I need help koha on debian | |
09:12 | this command is not running in debian lenny | |
09:12 | $ sudo cpan Algorithm::CheckDigits SMS::Send HTTP::OAI | |
09:13 | Genji | CGI348: what do you want ot do with them? |
09:13 | CGI348: try sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'install | |
09:14 | install Algorithm::CheckDigits SMS::Send HTTP::OAI | |
09:14 | ' | |
09:14 | CGI348 | actually this is command for installing additional dependencies before installing koha |
09:14 | * Genji | nods. |
09:14 | Genji | or even do... 'sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'shell' ' |
09:15 | then type 'install Algorithm::CheckDigits SMS::Send HTTP::OAI | |
09:18 | CGI348 | Genji: It still not work |
09:18 | show following error | |
09:18 | noumanlumhs-b70715be2:~$ sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'shell'Terminal does not support AddHistory.cpan shell -- CPAN exploration and modules installation (v1.9205)ReadLine support available (maybe install Bundle::CPAN or Bundle::CPANxxl?) | |
09:19 | Genji | thats not an error |
09:19 | you in a new prompt now? | |
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09:22 | CGI348 | Genji: yeah I know, I enter there 'install Algorithm::CheckDigits SMS::Send HTTP::OAI' but still show error |
09:26 | Genji: it show following what should I do now | |
09:26 | Genji | no idea. |
09:26 | slef | chris: alive? |
09:26 | CGI348 | Could not fetch modules/03modlist.data.gzGoing to write /home/nouman/.cpan/MetadataWarning: Cannot install Algorithm::CheckDigits, don't know what it is.Try the command i /Algorithm::CheckDigits/to find objects with matching identifiers.Warning: Cannot install SMS::Send, don't know what it is.Try the command i /SMS::Send/to find objects with matching identifiers.Warning: Cannot install HTTP::OAI, don't know what it is.Try th |
09:28 | slef | CGI348: are you behind a firewall and what server(s) did you pick for cpan mirror? |
09:28 | (when you were doing the first run of cpan) | |
09:29 | The key problem is "Could not fetch modules/03modlist.data.gz" which means perl can't look anything up. It's not a koha problem but we'll try to help. | |
09:30 | to re-do the configuration and pick different server(s) or add proxy servers, enter o conf init at the cpan> prompt | |
09:30 | CGI348 | I dont select cpan mirror but installed automatically when I install dselect |
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09:31 | slef | "install dselect"? |
09:31 | excuse me while I read the recent chat history ;-) | |
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09:32 | slef | debian lenny |
09:32 | CGI348 | self: yeah |
09:32 | self: by following commands | |
09:32 | slef | ok, the automatic selection doesn't work for you for whatever reason |
09:32 | CGI348 | self:$ sudo dpkg --set-selections < install_misc/debian-lenny.packages' and ' $ sudo apt-get install dselect $ sudo dselect' |
09:33 | slef | hrrm, why dselect? |
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09:34 | hdl_laptop | because of INSTALL.debian |
09:34 | masonj | hes following the guide, i guess... |
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09:34 | masonj | yep |
09:34 | slef | well, that |
09:34 | CGI348 | self: actually I was following the instructions of 'install.debian-lenny' |
09:34 | masonj | your cpan config is broken... |
09:35 | slef | That's been wrong almost since it was written IMO. My patches still didn't make it? |
09:35 | CGI348 | so wht should I do. as Im new in linux |
09:35 | masonj | or your network sconfig ;) |
09:35 | slef | CGI348: is there an error before the "Couldn't fetch ..."? |
09:35 | CGI348: and do you have to use a proxy server to get onto the internet? | |
09:36 | masonj | follow this guide... |
09:36 | http://sial.org/howto/perl/life-with-cpan/ | |
09:36 | CGI348 | yeah on proxy server |
09:36 | slef | ok, rerun sudo perl -MCPAN -e shell |
09:36 | then type at the cpan> prompt o conf init | |
09:37 | then when it gets to the http_proxy and ftp_proxy parts, type the right answers in | |
09:37 | It'll ask a lot of questions, but for all of the "Where is your ... program?" ones you should be able to just press enter to accept the suggested answer in []s | |
09:39 | masonj | slef: ever used/heard-of zmanda mysql-backup tool? |
09:40 | slef | masonj: no but it sounds familiar so I think colleague BR might know about it. |
09:40 | masonj: do you want me to ask him something? | |
09:40 | masonj | sure :) |
09:41 | just a quick thumbs up/down... | |
09:42 | slef | I've asked. It says he's offline. I'll relay an answer when I get it. |
09:43 | masonj | thanx! |
09:46 | CGI348 | slef:it show cpan[4]> |
09:46 | slef: should i paste total error | |
09:47 | slef | CGI348: can you paste it into |
09:47 | help where's the pastebin? | |
09:48 | http://paste.workbuffer.org/ | |
09:48 | Amit | heya slef |
09:48 | slef | CGI348: paste the full error into http://paste.workbuffer.org/ and tell us the link |
09:48 | Amit: hi hi | |
09:49 | actually paste it there and pastebot should tell us the link | |
09:51 | pastebot | "CGI348" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "err] $ sudo cpan Algorithm::CheckDigits SMS::Send HTTP::OAI" (494 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/78 |
09:51 | slef | reading |
09:52 | Autoconfigured everything but 'urllist'. | |
09:52 | that's not good | |
09:52 | CGI348 | slef: then?? |
09:53 | slef | ok, quit that, open /etc/perl/CPAN/Config.pm |
09:53 | actually wait a mo | |
09:53 | thinking first :) | |
09:53 | CGI348 | ok |
09:55 | slef | phone brb |
09:56 | open /etc/perl/CPAN/Config.pm in an editor... are you ok with that? | |
09:56 | needs to be sudo | |
09:56 | CGI348 | i have opened via sudo gedit /etc/perl/CPAN/Config.pm |
09:56 | is it? | |
09:57 | slef | should be ok |
09:57 | now look for the proxy | |
09:58 | lines and put the urls for you proxy in it | |
09:58 | save and retry the install lines | |
09:58 | CGI348 | 'ftp_proxy' => q[], 'http_proxy' => q[], |
09:58 | 'no_proxy' => q[], | |
09:59 | slef | q[http://proxyserver.whatever:8080/] |
10:00 | with the right protocol name and number | |
10:01 | CGI348 | above was the result. should i put in it q[10.1.100.7:8080] |
10:01 | is it? | |
10:01 | slef | for your proxy server |
10:01 | q[http://10.1.100.7:8080] | |
10:02 | is more likely I think | |
10:03 | leave no_proxy empty probably | |
10:06 | CGI348 | yeah I have done |
10:06 | slef | now try to install again |
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10:16 | slef | wonder if it worked |
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10:35 | Ropuch | Hm, anyone has a clue why { } are not displayed (and interpreted) properly on my ttys? |
10:35 | Genjimoto | okay, im off to bed. night all. |
10:36 | Ropuch | Good night Genjimoto |
10:40 | slef | Ropuch: that's an odd one - braces are usually base ASCII I think |
10:40 | Ropuch | yup |
10:41 | Everything is working just fine while I'm using X | |
10:41 | but i can't get any code displaying & wroking when switched to tty | |
10:41 | Even my bash_profile won't execute | |
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10:46 | Ropuch | Hmm, vim shows it's ascii 123 so it is a opening curly bracket |
10:53 | Ugh, found it, silly typo in bash_profile and misinterpreting the error message | |
10:53 | * Ropuch | is going to get another cup of coffee |
11:01 | slef | good idea |
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11:27 | Amit | @wunder Bangalore India |
11:27 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 22.0�C (11:30 AM IST on December 04, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. |
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11:39 | greenmang0 | @wunder mumbai |
11:39 | munin | greenmang0: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 28.0�C (4:40 PM IST on December 04, 2009). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
11:40 | greenmang0 | there's an option in Koha Admin to add a New Preference ... but for that Variable and Value has to be defined... how to achieve that? |
11:40 | where can I get the list of variables and values?... is it documented ?? | |
11:40 | slef: ^^ | |
11:41 | slef | I don't know if it's documented. You can get the variables by grepping the source for C4::Context.*preference IIRC, but then you have to read the source to find the values. |
11:42 | greenmang0 | slef: ok... |
11:42 | slef | It's quite a bit of work and if anything in the source isn't listed in the admin already, that's a bug, so it's quite a bit of work to do a bugfix. |
11:43 | There is a sysprefs.sql file in the sources which should contain them all | |
11:43 | but then those should already be loaded into the admin | |
11:43 | so you wouldn't need to add them as New Preferences | |
11:43 | Does that make sense to you greenmang0? | |
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11:45 | greenmang0 | slef: hmm.... one more question... koha's features list says it supports "full text search" |
11:45 | slef: but i didn't find anything anywhere regarding Full Text Search | |
11:46 | slef: is it my ignorance... or it is a bug? since.. it's not in admin module | |
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11:56 | magnusenger | ouch... i'm playing around with OPACFRBRizeEditions and ran "batchupdateISBNs.pl -noxml" to normalize the ISBNs in biblioitems.isbn. now all i get from opac-detail.pl is a Koha 404, eg: http://dev.bibpode.no/cgi-bin/[…]blionumber=271191 Any ideas? |
11:58 | ah, forget it, i got some file permissions mixed up! | |
11:59 | morale: check the logs before doing anything else ;-) | |
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12:04 | slef | greenmang0: I forget. Hasn't there been a bit of traffic about that on the list? |
12:05 | greenmang0 | slef: need to check archives :) |
12:12 | slef: i can use 856u field to put a location of PDF file and i can get the link when i search for a book.... but what i want to do is... i want to search the content of pdfs and koha should show up that link | |
12:12 | slef: is Full Text Search an only option to this? | |
12:12 | slef: or can it be achieved in any other way? | |
12:13 | slef: yes.. kete is there... but i want to do it without kete if possible... | |
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12:27 | slef | greenmang0: I'm not sure and I'd have to look it up and today's my first day back in the office after a while. |
12:27 | greenmang0 | slef: ok... no problem :) |
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13:04 | janewagner | Network problems are SO much fun! |
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13:09 | Ropuch | ;> |
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13:13 | jwagner | Harrumph! |
13:15 | jdavidb | This is a new one on me...doing a rebuild_zebra, and get "Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number)". Indexing stops at that point, which is Kinda Bad. |
13:15 | Anyone ever seen that happen? | |
13:16 | kf | hi jwagner and jdavidb :) |
13:16 | jwagner | Morning kf |
13:16 | jdavidb | Hi, kf! :) |
13:21 | nengard | hdl_laptop2 around? |
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13:36 | hdl_laptop2 | nengard, yes |
13:36 | nengard | sent it via email already :) wanted to know what the diff options under the cart export would look like |
13:36 | for the manual | |
13:38 | hdl_laptop2 | jdavidb, yes. |
13:38 | This is not new for me. | |
13:38 | jdavidb | I googled around some, and bibs with large numbers of items seem to cause that a lot. turning on switch -x seemed to help, for most. |
13:39 | I've done that, and re-running the index now. | |
13:39 | hdl_laptop2 | seems that you donot have any biblionumber in your biblio records. |
13:40 | jdavidb | Hm...that'd be bad. |
13:40 | hdl_laptop2 | or you are trying to index a wrong field for your bibliorecord |
13:41 | jdavidb | This is a copy of data from a running system to a test box with a default installation, so I don't think there's anything insanely wrong with the data. |
13:43 | chris_n | g'morning |
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13:48 | owen | Hi all |
13:49 | imp | heyho owen |
13:50 | owen | I'm happy to report that I got Windows talking to my VirtualBox Koha server, but in the process I messed up my Apache config |
13:51 | I'm getting the default Apache page rather than the Koha opac | |
13:51 | "_default_ VirtualHost overlap on port 80" | |
13:51 | Anyone know where this _default_ configuration is coming from? | |
13:52 | Ropuch | Um |
13:53 | /etc/apache2/sites-available/default? | |
13:53 | But i guess you've already check that one | |
13:54 | owen | Don't be too sure Ropuch ;) |
14:00 | Ropuch | Hehe, you're right ;> |
14:08 | chris_n | hdl_laptop2 about? |
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14:09 | nengard | chris_n are you still having issues getting the docs? |
14:09 | chris_n | nengard: yes |
14:09 | nengard | maybe hdl_laptop2 can help you with that - I just pushed my updates with no issues .... |
14:09 | chris_n | I was hoping he could |
14:11 | nengard | or anyone at BibLibre really |
14:12 | jwagner | @wunder 20740 |
14:12 | munin | jwagner: The current temperature in Hollywood, College Park, Maryland is 5.9�C (9:10 AM EST on December 04, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa (Steady). |
14:12 | chris_n | tnx nengard |
14:13 | nengard | np - I have special access so I can push my updates - so that's probably why it works for me while you're having issues |
14:13 | chris_n | btw, I saw your bug for the quick label print menu; I'll try to get it in with my next batch of patches |
14:13 | @wunder 28334 | |
14:13 | munin | chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 9.8�C (9:11 AM EST on December 04, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Steady). |
14:13 | nengard | chris_n - thanks :) I can do it too if you're too busy - just wasn't sure which menu to choose |
14:13 | @wunder 19030 | |
14:13 | munin | nengard: The current temperature in JAT Observatory, Fairless Hills, Pennsylvania is 6.8�C (9:00 AM EST on December 04, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Rising). |
14:14 | veryinky_ | Looks like my problem was that I installed 3.0.0 instead of 3.0.2 |
14:15 | * veryinky_ | was having trouble with updatesupplier.pl line 92. |
14:19 | * jdavidb | really, really dislikes being wrong. |
14:20 | * chris_n | seems to be that way ^^ too often |
14:22 | schuster | @wunder 75074 |
14:22 | munin | schuster: The current temperature in Brookview, Plano, Texas is 0.4�C (8:15 AM CST on December 04, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006.0 hPa (Rising). |
14:22 | jdavidb | @wunder 20852 |
14:22 | munin | jdavidb: The current temperature in Flower Valley, Rockville, Maryland is 4.8�C (9:13 AM EST on December 04, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Rising). |
14:22 | nengard | wait - am I reading that right? it's colder in Texas than PA? |
14:22 | owen | @wunder 45701 |
14:22 | nengard | yikes |
14:22 | munin | owen: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 1.7�C (9:17 AM EST on December 04, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018.5 hPa (Steady). |
14:22 | jdavidb | you are reading ti right. It's colder in TX, and MD, than it is in PA. |
14:22 | schuster | It's bad when it is colder in Texas than in the upper NorthEast! |
14:22 | nengard | uh huh |
14:23 | but the weather said that what you have is heading east | |
14:23 | so it's coming | |
14:23 | * chris_n | wonders if the cold in TX is a bigger cold than in other parts of the US |
14:23 | schuster | Yes it probably is - we may get snow again today - we got some on Tuesday it all melted and there was actually one school district northwest of us that called school. |
14:23 | * owen | runs down the street yelling "It's coming! Prepare yourselves!!" |
14:24 | schuster | chris_n of course it is everything in TEXAS is bigger and better ya know... We'll have it worn down before it leaves here! HA |
14:24 | question for you system types. I'm running top to watch processes. | |
14:24 | chris_n | schuster: lol :-) |
14:25 | must be why it never snows in NC ;-) | |
14:25 | nengard | owen it's people like you who buy up all of the milk when we're expecting an inch of snow - aren't you??? hehe |
14:25 | schuster | as I add up CPU% often it is over 100% - I am running a dell box Debian with 2 Quad core Xeon processors...??? |
14:25 | owen | nengard: Naw, I grew up in Kansas. Ask wizzyrea about Kansas snow. |
14:26 | schuster | I grew up in South Dakota! ask me about walking to class at the university with windchill -60 F! |
14:26 | People in Texas don't know cold. | |
14:27 | jdavidb | schuster: Uphill, both ways, in three-foot-deep snow? |
14:28 | schuster | no hills but yes in the snow! Thankfully they had plowed the sidewalks! |
14:28 | jdavidb | Well, the indexing run broke again, with the same error, despite using -x in the rebuild_zebra.. Any idea how to *find* the record-with-no-biblionumber-in-it? |
14:30 | magnusenger | schuster: i'm no top expert, but found this: "Time spent in niced tasks will also be counted in system and user time, so the total will be more than 100%." http://linux.about.com/od/comm[…]l/blcmdl1_top.htm |
14:30 | veryinky_ | Um. What would be the easiest way to update koha 3.0.0 to koha 3.0.2, was about to re-install, but... |
14:31 | schuster | Where is the biblionumber stored? could you go at it from items looking for items where biblionumber is null? |
14:31 | chris_n | jdavidb: somthing like 'SELECT * FROM biblio WHERE biblionumber = NULL' maybe |
14:31 | jdavidb | schuster: Way, way more useful than CPU % is the load average numbers. |
14:32 | schuster | thanks manusenger - I'm trying to determine why the system gets really slow at 8:30... time to go watch activity. |
14:32 | 1.35, 2.27, 2.39 - so what does that tell me? | |
14:32 | magnusenger | schuster: happy hunting! ;-) |
14:32 | jdavidb | chris_n: empty set. Same searching in biblioitems, too. |
14:32 | schuster | Load averages. |
14:33 | jdavidb | The load average at any given instant is the number of processes currently running on a cpu, plus any that *could* run, if there was cpu available for them. Those numbers are the 1, 5, and 15-minute averages of those instant numbers. |
14:33 | magnusenger | "Load average over 1, 5, and 15 minutes. The load average is the average number of jobs in the run queue." http://www.manpagez.com/man/1/top/ |
14:33 | jdavidb | Give you have, effectively, 8 CPUs, any number lower than that indicates less-than-full utilization. |
14:34 | Doesn't mean there won't be other lags--IO, database lock mutexes, network--but CPU shouldn't be an issue for you. | |
14:34 | schuster | ok so is there a way to monitor IO? |
14:35 | jdavidb | iostat has some interesting bits you might look at. "man iostat" from a privileged account should give you some ideas. |
14:35 | chris_n | jdavidb: in biblio.biblionumber is not null autoincrement and biblioitems.biblionumber is not null default 0, so unless you have bad data, there should never be no biblionumber |
14:35 | jdavidb | I don't think there's anything as clean and easy as "top", but there are tools. |
14:36 | chris_n | jdavidb: somthing like 'SELECT * FROM biblio WHERE biblionumber = 0' might be more enlightening |
14:36 | jdavidb | Exactly, chris_n. But the records won't index. |
14:36 | chris_n | jdavidb: somthing like 'SELECT * FROM biblioitems WHERE biblionumber = 0' rather |
14:36 | schuster | I find it interesting that I have a 16 GIG memory and only 1108572k free - I do have most of it in swap but that number never chnages. |
14:36 | jdavidb | none of those, either. |
14:36 | If your system ever starts swapping, schuster, I should be very worried. | |
14:37 | Not having much memory free on an application like this is no particular problem--MySQL can have most of it, and that's not harmful. | |
14:38 | schuster | Yes I see mysql is running 44.7% |
14:38 | Just trying to see if there is anything I can do system wise to speed things up. | |
14:38 | yesterday we even had a couple librarians indicate they got "system busy messages" in circ... | |
14:39 | jdavidb | Something I've bumped into: do a MySQL: SELECT count(*) FROM sessions; |
14:39 | schuster | sorry "serverbusy" |
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14:39 | schuster | Yes - last night I cleared and optimized sessions... there were only 77,000 but that query did take some time. |
14:39 | jdavidb | Oh, okay. you're one ahead of me, then. ;-) |
14:40 | schuster | This morning I run it and there are 856 and the mysql poped right back so maybe that alone will help. |
14:40 | jdavidb | chris_n, I didn't find any of those, either. almost gotta be something in the marc/marcxml. |
14:41 | schuster | how big is the MARC file jdavidb? |
14:41 | jdavidb | pardon? |
14:41 | schuster | It could be that you have something where there are too many items which causes it to crash. |
14:41 | jdavidb | That's what I thought, too, so I ran rebuild_zebra with -x to overcome that, and got the same error,. |
14:42 | chris_n | jdavidb: are we sure it is the biblionumber causing the issue? |
14:42 | jdavidb | I'm not sure of anything. |
14:42 | chris_n | heh |
14:42 | jdavidb | The error is barking about (bib1,Local-number). |
14:42 | The only entry in record.abs that points at Local-number is the 035. | |
14:44 | schuster | Can you query for a bib without 035 tag? |
14:44 | schuster knows jdavidb has probably done that already... | |
14:45 | jdavidb | SELECT count(*) FROM biblioitems WHERE marcxml NOT LIKE '%<datafield tag="035"%'; returns 1079 records, sure enough. But why would it be *requiring* that? |
14:46 | * chris_n | has many records w/o 035 and zebra indexes fine |
14:47 | jdavidb | Oh-hoh. zebra-biblios.cfg has a line "recordId: (bib1,Local-number)" That don't look right to me.. |
14:49 | schuster | thanks for the query... ;) |
14:49 | jwagner | jdavidb, I see that same line on my sandbox |
14:49 | jdavidb | yeah, I'm seeing it on a fresh install, too. |
14:50 | nengard | jdavidb - you're gonna put that query on the wiki right? |
14:50 | jdavidb | 999$c, which is what we *really* want, is defined as Local-Number. Case problem? |
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14:51 | schuster | have you looked at select biblionumber, title, length(marcxml) from biblio and count(*) somehow? |
14:51 | * jdavidb | looks at nengard's ghost very puzzledly... |
14:51 | schuster | To double check oversized records? |
14:51 | jdavidb | I'm *sure* I've got some too-long-for-MARC recs, schuster. No need to look to see if I do. |
14:52 | schuster | hm ok - all I know is they caused me tons of trouble. |
14:53 | jdavidb | I remember. :P |
14:53 | schuster | hm yep load averages are going up... 2.62, 4.12, 3.61 |
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14:54 | jdavidb | A load average on the order of 3, for a multi-cpu box like yours, normally shouldn't be a problem, in and of itself. MySQL SHOW PROCESSLIST show any stragglers, processes running way too long? |
14:57 | gmcharlt is the Zebra configs guru; he's gotten me out of jams before. Around? | |
14:58 | schuster | There is one process over 100 seconds but there isn't a way to tell what it is. |
14:58 | jdavidb | A longish query like that *can* cause problems, but that doesn't seem overly long, for a report or something. |
14:58 | When they get over 1000, that's a *definite* problem. | |
14:58 | gmcharlt | jdavidb: Zebra config questin? |
14:59 | jdavidb | :D I've got a blowup happening on reindex, barking about no match on (bib1, Local-number). |
14:59 | I note that 999$c is defined as "Local-Number", not "Local-number". Only thing I have pointing at "Local-number" is 035. | |
15:00 | But zebra-biblios.cfg shows recordId: (bib1,Local-number) | |
15:00 | Case sensitivity problem? | |
15:00 | schuster | 6.05, 4.41, 3.78 - went to 200 seconds and is gone now |
15:00 | gmcharlt | jdavidb: doubt it, but you want the Local-number (regardless of case) to be drawing from exactly one subfield |
15:00 | chris_n | bbl |
15:00 | gmcharlt | in this case, the 999$c (for biblionumber) |
15:01 | as the recordId is special - it needs to be a unique, single-value-per-record value | |
15:01 | schuster | nice to see you gmcharlt |
15:02 | jdavidb | Ah-hah. gotcha. Sometime in the evil past, this one got 035 turned on to localnumber, but nothing turned off. I'll try that. Thanks! |
15:03 | schuster | Thanks everyone for your insight have to get ready for my javascript class! |
15:04 | jdavidb | gmcharlt++ |
15:05 | jwagner | er, evil past would be me. The purpose of turning it on in the index is for a bibload match point. I just uncommented the 035 line already in record.abs. If it can't use Local Number, what index could we set that to? |
15:06 | gmcharlt | jwagner: I suggest making up a new one, std-control-number or the like |
15:06 | jwagner | OK, I'll let jdavidb figure out how to do that & set it up :-) |
15:07 | jdavidb | ...in my loads of spare time? Will require re-index on each system, of course. |
15:07 | jwagner | Of course. I have faith in you :-) |
15:08 | * jdavidb | chuckles |
15:09 | jwagner | Now hop to it for today's Must Do list! |
15:09 | * jwagner | cracks the whip |
15:09 | wizzyrea | b |
15:09 | ...Spud says hi | |
15:09 | and good morning. | |
15:10 | jwagner | good morning to wizzyrea and Spud |
15:11 | jdavidb | :) Mornin', wizzyrea and Spud! |
15:11 | wizzyrea | yea, this week is awesome: Spud's sick, now the Sitter is sick, and I'm getting sick. Sweeeet. |
15:12 | oh and the hubs is sick | |
15:12 | though spud seems better :P | |
15:16 | owen | wizzyrea: You'll have to teach him how to fetch you snacks and drinks while you lounge on the couch |
15:16 | wizzyrea | a capital idea |
15:16 | jwagner | but you'll have all weekend to recover! (*ducks*) |
15:16 | jdavidb | Beware of jwagner; she's in a sassy mood today, I think. |
15:17 | wizzyrea | jwagner: true! (for some reason that isn't terribly irksome to me, I've been at home with a sick one for 3 days now) |
15:17 | luckily I can pretty easily work from home | |
15:20 | jwagner | Try grumpy instead of sassy. Starting the day with no network connectivity is equivalent to getting out of bed on the wrong side. My whole LIFE is backed up online somewhere. Can't function without a network link! |
15:20 | * gmcharlt | awaits the net implant for his brain |
15:21 | jwagner | Maybe someone will give Bluetooth a whole new meaning... |
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15:24 | wizzyrea | i have an iphone, I don't need implants :P |
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15:25 | wizzyrea | though augmented reality through corneal implants would be neat. |
15:28 | owen | ...until the spammers hit your implants with popup ads |
15:28 | chris_n | lol |
15:28 | * jdavidb | finds reality interesting enough, and wonders what sort of "augmentation" wizzyrea suggests. |
15:28 | jdavidb | It'd be nice to have it pop up stuff like, "where did I meet this person who looks familiar..." |
15:31 | slef | wizzyrea++ |
15:31 | spotted a law project today using wordpress for everything apparently for no reason beside it being cool | |
15:31 | chris_n | heya slef |
15:31 | slef | asked them if they'd remove the linkspam that's been injected into the theme |
15:31 | hi chris_n | |
15:33 | chris_n | jwagner: fwiw, my dev install is back to where it was prior to the bad rebase |
15:34 | * chris_n | breaths a sigh of relief |
15:34 | jwagner | chris_n, good news! Do you have notes about what went wrong & warnings for what anyone else would need to do? I made a note about all the Perl dependencies yesterday. |
15:35 | owen | slef: Meaning their site didn't need the features WordPress provided? |
15:35 | chris_n | I have not yet attempted another rebase... the first attempt was enough stress for one week :-) |
15:35 | and I'm still waiting to hear from hdl_laptop2 on his thoughts | |
15:36 | but I think that nengard must have rebased ok | |
15:38 | kf | time to leave - have a nice weekend everybody :) |
15:38 | chris_n | bye kf |
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15:48 | jdavidb | gmcharlt++ #again. Sure enough, commenting out the second local-number entry got me past the hump. |
15:50 | wizzyrea | omg I got a karma bump from slef |
15:50 | * wizzyrea | faints |
15:55 | wizzyrea | jdavidb I was thinking of things like, you like gelato... when approaching a gelato shop it says 1500m to gelato shop |
15:56 | jdavidb | That might be handy. |
15:56 | * jdavidb | queries his implant for "good chili" and gets back "go make some, fool. Texas is too far to drive." |
15:58 | veryinky_ | :| |
15:59 | I got koha to run, seem to have tested most things and still no errors. Not much enthusiasm to start working the book database for real though. | |
16:01 | * Ropuch | is poking around 3.2 |
16:01 | Ropuch | New aquisition module is pretty cool |
16:03 | veryinky_ | I'm just happy it runs, accidentally installed 3.0.0 instead of 3.0.2, spent a few days trying to figure out what went wrong before re-installing. |
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16:10 | Ropuch | veryinky_: why you're installing 3.0.2 when latest stable release is 3.0.4? |
16:11 | veryinky_ | When was 3.0.4 released, I could swear it was 3.0.2 yesterday. |
16:13 | Ropuch | It's been a while |
16:13 | http://koha.org/news/koha-3.0.4-released | |
16:13 | veryinky_ | I just finished installing 3.0.2, about an hour ago. Is there an easy way to upgrade or should I uninstall koha entirely and re-install 3.0.4? |
16:13 | Ropuch | We should do something about naming inconsistency on koha.org - you're not the first person confused |
16:14 | veryinky_: upgrading is easy, give me sec | |
16:15 | * veryinky_ | is setting up koha to list books at this historical society, and also list books at nearby local achives and universities. |
16:16 | Ropuch | veryinky_: http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]-July/019328.html |
16:16 | veryinky_ | (mostly 100+ year old books, not so much a lending library as much as a historical archive) |
16:18 | jwagner | Does anyone know current status on Bug 2165 about adding XSLT to staff side? Is that being actively sponsored/worked on? |
16:18 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2165 normal, P3, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, ASSIGNED, Add XSL Support for Staff Client -- was: ISBN being truncated |
16:18 | hdl_laptop2 | jwagner, normally, should be on master now. |
16:19 | Since it has been ported by us. | |
16:19 | I am working on updatedatabase today | |
16:19 | jwagner | Oh, good! Is that one of the things in the new head? |
16:19 | veryinky_ | Ropuch, thanks. Seems to be working. |
16:20 | Ropuch | veryinky_: good luck [; |
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16:25 | hdl_laptop2 | jwagner, yes |
16:27 | schuster | jwagner - I have paid for some sponsorship to Liblime about that but have not heard any update on the status of my 3 development projects lately. |
16:32 | jwagner | schuster and hdl_laptop2, thanks. One of my sites was asking about it. |
16:34 | veryinky_ | Why was it called _fixed? initial 0.4 had a problem? |
16:35 | (koha-3.00.04_fixed.tar.gz) | |
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16:36 | owen | veryinky: Yes |
16:37 | hilongo | veryinky: yes ... initial 0.4 had a problem and there were access problems that lead to a "renamed release" |
16:37 | IIRC | |
16:38 | veryinky_ | ah |
16:38 | Ropuch | owen: there is some naming incosistency: people tend to download and test 3.02 as it is marked as stable |
16:39 | owen | We all hope such confusion will be avoided in the future when all Koha release managers and maintainers have proper access to koha.org |
16:39 | Ropuch | Yeah, I know |
16:40 | veryinky_ | I blame my error on following the wiki.koha.org koha installation guide, which installs 3.0.2 instead of 3.0.4 |
16:40 | (though 3.0.2 does nicely, as far as I can tell) | |
16:42 | Ropuch | veryinky_: you're not the first person ;) |
16:43 | veryinky_ | Hehe. |
16:44 | Ropuch | Besides: if one goes to download.koha.org an see: 3.0-stable, 3.0.1-stable and then only number, it's not unusual to assume that the higher numners are some dev releases |
16:45 | veryinky_ | I'm not too confident yet, but I could help someone re-write that "koha_3_install_guide_ubuntu_hardy" for the most recent version of ubuntu, along with 3.0.4 |
16:45 | * veryinky_ | wrote down everything that I had to do differently from the guide. |
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16:54 | slef | owen: just so |
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16:58 | nengard | owen - went to the supermarket after dr to pick up some meds - and it was PACKED - I jinxed it because of my comment to you about snow and milk :) |
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17:05 | nengard | hey all |
17:06 | just found something new - again - the ability to attach an item to a bib | |
17:06 | what does this do? move the item from one to another? or put it on both? | |
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17:07 | nengard | nevermind - played with it - and it moves the item - |
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17:15 | owen | wizzyrea around? Got more more VirtualBox questions if you're game |
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17:18 | sekjal | hey all, quick question |
17:18 | does anyone know which permission a user must have to be able to set their library? | |
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17:21 | chris_n | nengard: kohadoc git works now tnx to hdl |
17:21 | nengard | awesome |
17:21 | * chris_n | goes off in search of food |
17:23 | nengard | GRRR - Can't add an authority because I can't expand collapsed fields ... http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3860 |
17:23 | munin | 04Bug 3860: critical, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, Can't expand authorities |
17:24 | nengard | this is causing me a big issue since i can't write the authorities docs if I can't actually add an authority |
17:24 | wizzyrea | owen, I'll do my best |
17:25 | owen | wizzyrea: Maybe it's not a VirtualBox question, maybe it's just an Apache config question. |
17:25 | Anyway... | |
17:25 | wizzyrea | either way, may be able to help |
17:26 | owen | Working in VirtualBox I can access Koha at "http://oleonard-desktop/" |
17:26 | ...but "localhost" points to the default Apache page | |
17:26 | So if I point the browser on my host to "localhost:88" it reaches the default Apache page | |
17:27 | wizzyrea | yea, that sounds like apache... but what... |
17:27 | you have your listening ports configured in apache? | |
17:28 | owen | Where should I check? |
17:28 | Colin | nengard: Is that a browser specific issue? |
17:28 | wizzyrea | usually /etc/apache2/ports.conf |
17:29 | nengard | shouldn't be - I can do it with the cataloging module in the same browser |
17:29 | owen | wizzyrea: Says Listen 80 and Listen 8080. |
17:29 | wizzyrea | OH |
17:29 | oh oh oh | |
17:29 | Iknow | |
17:29 | nengard | colin in cataloging my cursor turns into a finger when i mouse over labels |
17:29 | Colin | works for me -- but that's without the latest big merge |
17:29 | nengard | in the the authority cataloging I get diddily |
17:29 | wizzyrea | erm, maybe not |
17:29 | nengard | Ah - mine is after the big merge |
17:29 | wizzyrea | localhost:88 doesn't work? |
17:30 | in your host browser? | |
17:30 | owen | localhost:88 in my host browser reaches the "It works!" default Apache page |
17:30 | wizzyrea | hrm |
17:30 | owen | ..same as going to "localhost" on my guest browser |
17:31 | I can only get to Koha via http://oleonard-desktop/ | |
17:32 | wizzyrea | ...thinking... ...looking... |
17:32 | Colin | looks like a negative feature got merged in |
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17:33 | wizzyrea | you have configured your koha.conf with the IP:80 of your virtualbox? |
17:33 | example: | |
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17:35 | wizzyrea | <VirtualHost 10.0.2.15:80> |
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17:35 | wizzyrea | (sorry that took way longer than it should have) |
17:36 | owen | <VirtualHost 127.0.1.1:80> |
17:36 | wizzyrea | ah, yea, ifconfig to find out the guest IP, and stick that in there |
17:36 | instead of 127.0.0.1 | |
17:37 | there will also be a line farther down for the intranet | |
17:37 | same thing: 10.0.2.15:8080 | |
17:40 | collum | owen: I believe you can also use a wildcard character. *:80, if your ip is not static |
17:41 | owen | Okay, <VirtualHost 10.0.2.15:80> |
17:42 | But still no luck | |
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17:44 | slef | *:80 means port 80 on any interface |
17:44 | brendan | morning all |
17:45 | slef | evening |
17:45 | collum | Yep, but shouldn't it work if you are only running koha? You may have to disable the default configuration. |
17:45 | nengard | afternoon |
17:45 | slef | yes it should |
17:46 | brendan | bug 3863 |
17:46 | hdl_laptop2 | nengard, 3860 works for me. |
17:46 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3863 major, P5, ---, henridamienkoha-fr.org, NEW, Amazon Covers Not Working |
17:46 | brendan | bug 3860 |
17:46 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3860 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, Can't expand authorities |
17:46 | nengard | hdl_laptop2 - okay - so what do you think it is? why isn't it working for me in FF? |
17:47 | wizzyrea | well is 10.0.2.15 your IP? |
17:48 | Imean, that's what it is on *my* virtualbox | |
17:48 | owen | "inet addr:10.0.2.15" |
17:48 | wizzyrea | >.> |
17:48 | slef | nengard: hdl_laptop2 - is one of you UNIMARC and the other MARC21? |
17:48 | nengard | I am Marc21 |
17:48 | that could be it | |
17:48 | wizzyrea | owen: I'm not sure :( |
17:49 | hdl_laptop2 | UNIMARC. |
17:50 | could be. But would be strange. | |
17:50 | I will try with a marc21 install | |
17:51 | owen | :| |
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17:53 | collum | owen: Did you restart apache after you made the configuration change? collum doesn't really want to ask this question. |
17:54 | owen | I did, and got a couple of errors, don't know if they're relevant: "apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName" |
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17:54 | owen | "(13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:80" |
17:54 | "(13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80" | |
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17:55 | collum | the fully qualified domain name shouldn't matter |
17:55 | the other errors do, but I'm not sure what's going on. | |
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17:57 | wizzyrea | well you could definitely try a2dissite default |
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17:58 | wizzyrea | which would disable the default config |
17:58 | owen | ? |
17:58 | nengard | wow - look at the time ... guess i should eat some lunch - soup it is - be back soon |
17:59 | wizzyrea | sudo a2dissite default |
17:59 | then restart apache | |
17:59 | * veryinky_ | yawns and watches makes. |
17:59 | sekjal | does anyone know if the patch for bug 3713 is going to be rolled into 3.0.5, or 3.2? I don't see it in the 3.0.4 log |
17:59 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3713 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, When Editing Items existing branch values are ignored |
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18:00 | collum | owen: http://man.he.net/man8/a2dissite |
18:01 | owen | Has no effect |
18:02 | wizzyrea | :/ |
18:02 | (i know that I have solved this problem before...) | |
18:02 | collum | me too |
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18:02 | pianohacker | owen: what does an apache2 -S within VirtualBox show? |
18:02 | Good quick way to check vhost configuration | |
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18:03 | owen | "apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}" |
18:03 | wizzyrea | sudo :P |
18:04 | owen | Same :P |
18:05 | veryinky_ | :| |
18:10 | wizzyrea | doh |
18:11 | * veryinky_ | watches system resources monitor, for lack of a better thing to do. |
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18:12 | brendan | wow USA draws England in group C --> for world cup 2010 |
18:13 | jdavidb | brendan: I'm not a huge football fan--always tried to be philosophical about the World Cup--it's not a matter of *if* USA will get their clocks cleaned by nations that take it more seriously than we do, but *when.* |
18:14 | brendan | New Zealand --> in group F, with Italy so far |
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18:14 | brendan | good luck chris |
18:17 | wizzyrea | question: functionally, what does changing the framework do on an existing record? What I want to know is: if you have a messed up bib with empty, erroneous items, why would changing the framework fix the problem? does it rewrite the marcxml blob? |
18:18 | gmcharlt_ | it force a general bib update, which has the effect of updating the embedded item data |
18:20 | Ropuch | Hm, anyone running 3.2? |
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18:21 | jwagner | chris_n, still online? |
18:22 | owen | Okay, "apache2ctl -S" give me this: |
18:22 | VirtualHost configuration: | |
18:22 | 10.0.2.15:80 oleonard-desktop (/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha:6) | |
18:22 | 10.0.2.15:8080 oleonard-desktop (/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha:49) | |
18:22 | wildcard NameVirtualHosts and _default_ servers: | |
18:22 | *:80 127.0.1.1 (/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default:1) | |
18:23 | nengard | back |
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18:25 | owen | Aaand... somewhere along the way things started working. |
18:25 | jdavidb | I generally disable the default config. It's one more way in the door, and I prefer to control those. |
18:25 | owen | So yay, working! and Boo...don't know what I changed to make it work. |
18:25 | collum | yay |
18:25 | jdavidb | owen++ |
18:26 | veryinky_ | blarg. |
18:26 | nengard | so - lunch done - a nice garlicy soup - to kill the sick in me - only good for somone who only talks with her fingers :) hehe |
18:26 | veryinky_ | chown: Invalid user: 'koh:koh' |
18:27 | * pianohacker | adds blarg about tightvnc resetting auth password upon - wery wery bad when the machine is half an hour away |
18:27 | pianohacker | veryinky_: That should be koha:koha, I think. What's that error from? |
18:27 | veryinky_ | make install update |
18:28 | chown: usager invalide: `koh:koh' | |
18:28 | make: *** [set_koha_ownership] Erreur 1 | |
18:28 | (sorry, it's in french, but this is for a historical society in quebec, canada) | |
18:28 | pianohacker | translations++ |
18:29 | veryinky_: Is there a koha user set up on your system (and does that user own your Koha install directory)? | |
18:29 | veryinky_ | It'd be chown: invalid user: 'koh:koh', Error 1. Yeah, I,m going to fix it. |
18:29 | Yeah, it's koha koha, koha directory | |
18:29 | pianohacker | veryinky_: I'm assuming you ran Makefile.PL with the --prev-install-log argument |
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18:30 | veryinky_ | Yes. |
18:30 | pianohacker | You could directly edit the install log, and change koh to koha |
18:30 | veryinky_ | Yeah, already got gedit out to fix it. Just annoyed, this is an old computer, make takes an hour |
18:30 | pianohacker | urg. |
18:31 | veryinky_ | 1.2 ghz cpu, 1 meg ram |
18:31 | er, 1 gig ram | |
18:31 | pianohacker | I was _hoping_ that was a typo |
18:31 | veryinky_ | (old but not that old) |
18:31 | pianohacker | veryinky_: one-time-speed-hack: also change it in the Makefile directly, you might not have to run the whole make again |
18:31 | veryinky_ | It's a community historical society, so they don't exactly have state of the art hardware. |
18:32 | wizzyrea | gmcharlt: thanks, that was what I assuming |
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18:36 | owen | wizzyrea: With ssh hostport configured to 2222 shouldn't I be able to ssh to localhost:2222? |
18:36 | wizzyrea | 22, if you did it Like I did |
18:37 | owen | I've got "...ssh/HostPort" value="2222"/>" |
18:37 | and "...ssh/GuestPort" value="22"/>" | |
18:38 | ...in the VirtualBox config xml | |
18:42 | Hmmm... ssh server installed on Ubuntu? | |
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18:42 | Genji | hiya all |
18:42 | SelfishMan: how far did you get with the mirroring? | |
18:43 | SelfishMan | still running |
18:43 | almost done though it looks like | |
18:44 | 52,017 objects fetched | |
18:45 | veryinky_ | pianohacker, well, editing the makefile directly does not seem to be an option on this computer. 5 minutes later it's still trying to open the file. Looks like I'll have to bite the bullet and remake. |
18:45 | SelfishMan | 4GB in size though |
18:45 | veryinky_ | Or not. 6 minutes in and it opened the file. Now to find a "koh" in a giant file filled with "koha"s. |
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18:47 | Genji | SelfishMan: compression will bring that down. .tar.gz'ed of course. good thing i didn't continue, havent got 4 gb to spare. Wow.. The wiki is a couple of books and then some. |
18:54 | pianohacker | veryinky_: any luck? |
18:57 | veryinky_ | Looking at a weird error. Warning: prerequisite HTTP::OAI 3.2 not found. |
18:57 | But OAI 2.1.5 is the most recent one I found. | |
18:58 | pianohacker | veryinky_: you can continue past that and test later, especially if you're not going to use the OAI server |
18:58 | SelfishMan | Genji: looks like every article has 15-20 variations on it. I'm sure the dataset is only a few hundred meg at most |
18:59 | veryinky_ | Ok. I didn't have this problem with 3.0 and 3.0.2 so I was curious as to why it happened. |
19:00 | SelfishMan | I have about 400TB of free space available to me so disk space isn't a concern and bandwidth usage is minimal |
19:00 | * veryinky_ | is reading the koha mailing list about others who had the same problem and how they fixed it. |
19:00 | Genji | Which we could of got via ftp from the pages directory, if LL gave us access. |
19:00 | pianohacker | SelfishMan: 400TB? |
19:00 | SelfishMan | pianohacker: yep. |
19:01 | Genji | wow... |
19:01 | pianohacker | What on earth is that intended for? |
19:01 | Genji | How is that possible? |
19:01 | You own a Datacenter? | |
19:01 | SelfishMan | I deal with a lot of large datasets |
19:01 | pianohacker | like what? |
19:01 | SelfishMan | At the office I have a room for servers and a room for storage |
19:02 | pianohacker: Can't really talk about that (NDAs) | |
19:02 | pianohacker | Very serious then |
19:02 | Genji | SelfishMan: what do you do? |
19:02 | SelfishMan | Not really that serious since everyone makes you sign NDAs these days |
19:02 | pianohacker | I'll just assume you host warez and leave it at that :) |
19:03 | SelfishMan | Genji: I'll do anything that challenges me |
19:03 | and if it benefits the masses then I'm even more willing to commit to it | |
19:04 | Genji | I mean.. job title? Workplace function? And what does the office actually do? |
19:04 | SelfishMan | Genji: I own the business and we take on all sorts of computer related contracts |
19:05 | custom hardware, software and/or infrastrure design mostly | |
19:05 | uh...infrastructure | |
19:06 | Genji | Right. You mentioned you have 400TB free... how much you have in total? |
19:07 | * Genji | braces himself for a reallly big number. |
19:07 | SelfishMan | Genji: about 600TB |
19:07 | Genji | Oh... not much bigger in comparision. |
19:07 | SelfishMan | just purged a bunch of data from the last contract |
19:08 | Genji | you got a Supercomputer strength cluster working at stuff? |
19:08 | SelfishMan | nah, handful of systems doing the crunching but most of it isn't really cpu intensive |
19:09 | just a matter of taking a bunch of raw data and making it into something useful | |
19:09 | IO is insane though | |
19:17 | Ropuch | Kinda funny nick you have for a person willing to share his resources ;> |
19:18 | SelfishMan | Ropuch: That's where the nick came from |
19:18 | Ropuch | [; |
19:19 | I'm seriously thinking about switching focus entirely to 3.2 version | |
19:19 | pianohacker | in terms of translation? |
19:19 | Ropuch | Yup |
19:19 | Despite previous declaration from others I'm doing this on my own | |
19:20 | And 3.2 is great ;) | |
19:20 | pianohacker | That it is :) |
19:21 | Ropuch | I will do some testing on funcionality I need and maybe I'll put my library on it |
19:22 | It's easier to translate and spot bugs when actually working with software | |
19:22 | (although bugzilla is creeping me out) | |
19:24 | pianohacker: do you have 3.2 installed? When I'm trying to limit search to available items, the result is "no match" | |
19:25 | pianohacker | Ropuch: My library at http://jcfld.us.to/ is running a (slightly out-of-date) 3.2 |
19:25 | Ropuch | I've imported my 3.0.4 dump into 3.2 and I'm not sure if it's a bug or my problem only |
19:25 | "Outdated 3.2"? ;> | |
19:26 | pianohacker | I have some custom modifications, and I haven't had the energy to deal with merging them in for a couple of months |
19:27 | Hmm, can't connect to my library at the moment. Good thing I'm going into work soon | |
19:28 | Ropuch | Neither do I |
19:28 | pianohacker | Ropuch: But I believe the available items limit is working; you might want to check your zebra MARC configuration (good old record.abs) |
19:29 | Time to head off to work, be back in half an hour or so | |
19:29 | Ropuch | See you |
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19:49 | wizzyrea | owen: I don't believe ssh is installed by default on ubuntu |
19:49 | owen | Yup, got it. |
19:49 | I'm in business! | |
19:49 | wizzyrea | sorry, had a lunch break >.< |
19:49 | sweet! | |
19:49 | * wizzyrea | claps excitedly |
19:54 | veryinky_ | :| |
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20:06 | brendan | bug 3864 |
20:07 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3864 blocker, P5, ---, henridamienkoha-fr.org, NEW, Cannot place holds in staff client |
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20:20 | veryinky_ | pianohackr|work: Seems to have worked, was about to create a koh:koh account out of frustration. |
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20:30 | Genji | hiya chris, you up? |
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20:34 | owen | Saturday for him Genji, although you can sometimes catch him |
20:37 | SelfishMan | I must admit, I'm getting some pleasure out of burning 6GB of LL's bandwidth in the last 24 hours |
20:37 | does that make me a bad person? | |
20:40 | Ropuch | No, just a happy one :) |
20:55 | veryinky | :| |
20:58 | Nate | have a great weekend everyone! |
20:58 | owen | veryinky: You seem very neutral. |
20:58 | veryinky | Always am. |
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21:00 | veryinky | I was voted most likely to :| on #bay12games |
21:03 | owen | I was voted most likely to leave in 15 minutes by the people who saw when I came to work this morning. |
21:04 | chris_n | jwagner: back now |
21:07 | schuster | owen hope the child is better. |
21:08 | owen | yeah, she's fine except for the sneezing boogers on us periodically |
21:08 | schuster | Ah yes we continue to have that as well. |
21:08 | owen - watch out - I've finished day 2 of a 4 day javascript class... There may be LOTS of questions coming your way - we talk about ajax next week. | |
21:09 | owen | Sounds like fun! |
21:09 | Is it one of those national tech-training companies? | |
21:10 | schuster | my tinkering with webpages has come to a point in which I needed to actually take some classes. |
21:10 | IEACT ? certified course | |
21:10 | So yes - it was sponsored through our local OCLC channel. | |
21:13 | chris_n | bbl |
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21:20 | owen | Have a good weekend everyone! |
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21:42 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
21:42 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 17.2�C (1:39 PM PST on December 04, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Falling). |
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22:07 | chris_n2 | @wunder 28334 |
22:07 | munin | chris_n2: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 11.3�C (5:02 PM EST on December 04, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006.0 hPa (Steady). |
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22:28 | schuster | try and stay warm everyone! |
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22:46 | ILHOMJAN_2 | salom |
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22:55 | brendan | @karma |
22:55 | munin | brendan: Highest karma: "chris" (84), "gmcharlt" (67), and "owen" (64). Lowest karma: "<!" (-26), "failed" (-20), and "-" (-11). You (brendan) are ranked 18 out of 598. |
22:55 | brendan | @karma brendan |
22:55 | munin | brendan: Karma for "brendan" has been increased 10 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 10. |
22:57 | chris_n2 | brendan++ # for good measure :-) |
22:58 | brendan | chris_n2++ #also for good measure |
22:58 | :) | |
22:58 | @karma chris_n2 | |
22:58 | munin | brendan: Karma for "chris_n2" has been increased 9 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 9. |
22:58 | * chris_n2 | begins to try to duplicate his win32 install of Koha |
22:59 | brendan | cool good luck |
22:59 | chris_n2 | hopefully to write a how-to |
22:59 | brendan | are you running that with git? |
22:59 | chris_n2 | starting out with that now |
22:59 | as soon as I get the changes into my local repo, I'll push them out to a win32 branch in my public repo | |
23:00 | right now the changes are just hacked into the uncompressed tarball | |
23:01 | Genji | anyone know zebra marc_def/record.abs syntax? |
23:01 | chris_n2 | I'm also trying out the win32 port of git |
23:22 | pianohackr|work | Genji: I don't think there's much beyond what's in the file |
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23:27 | Ropuch | Good night all |
23:34 | chris_n2 | g'night Ropuch |
23:43 | brendan | @quote random |
23:43 | munin | brendan: Quote #37: "< nelsonf> I'm pretty sure I deleted this one in the name of being thorough..." (added by chris at 07:27 PM, October 04, 2009) |
23:43 | pianohackr|work | @quote random |
23:43 | munin | pianohackr|work: Quote #31: "<@gmcharlt> but hacking Koha *should* be a restful part of any vacation ;)" (added by chris at 07:31 PM, September 02, 2009) |
23:43 | brendan | @quote random |
23:43 | munin | brendan: Quote #9: "pianohacker ponders drumstick->ear as a method of food acquisition...We haven't gone to this good mexican restaurant in a while..." (added by wizzyrea at 04:23 PM, June 19, 2009) |
23:43 | brendan | nice one pianohackr|work |
23:44 | pianohackr|work | I am reliably weird, if nothing else |
23:44 | brendan | heh |
23:49 | cya in a bit | |
23:51 | chris_n2 | @news |
23:51 | munin | chris_n2: News for #koha: (#1) Organizing |
23:52 | chris_n2 | @news add Next general IRC meeting at 19:00 UTC+0 on 13 January 2010 |
23:52 | munin | chris_n2: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
23:54 | chris_n2 | @news add Next general IRC meeting at 19:00 UTC+0 on 13 January 2010 |
23:54 | munin | chris_n2: Error: 'Next' is not a valid number of seconds. |
23:55 | chris_n2 | @news add 0 Next general IRC meeting at 19:00 UTC+0 on 13 January 2010 |
23:55 | munin | chris_n2: (news add [<channel>] <expires> <subject>: <text>) -- Adds a given news item of <text> to a channel with the given <subject>. If <expires> isn't 0, that news item will expire <expires> seconds from now. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. |
23:56 | chris_n2 | @news add 0 Organization Next general IRC meeting at 19:00 UTC+0 on 13 January 2010 |
23:56 | munin | chris_n2: (news add [<channel>] <expires> <subject>: <text>) -- Adds a given news item of <text> to a channel with the given <subject>. If <expires> isn't 0, that news item will expire <expires> seconds from now. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. |
23:56 | chris_n2 | @news add 0 Organization: Next general IRC meeting at 19:00 UTC+0 on 13 January 2010 |
23:56 | munin | chris_n2: The operation succeeded. (News item #4 added) |
23:56 | chris_n2 | syntax++ |
23:57 | Genji | @quote |
23:57 | munin | Genji: Error: "quote" is not a valid command. |
23:57 | Genji | @quote Genji |
23:57 | munin | Genji: Error: The "Quote" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "Genji" in it. Try "list Quote" to see the commands in the "Quote" plugin. |
23:57 | chris_n2 | @news remove 1 |
23:57 | munin | chris_n2: The operation succeeded. |
23:57 | Genji | @list quote |
23:57 | munin | Genji: add, change, get, random, remove, search, and stats |
23:58 | Genji | @quote search Genji |
23:58 | munin | Genji: No matching quotes were found. |
23:58 | Genji | @quote search chris |
23:58 | munin | Genji: 4 found: #19: "<chris> i just want to yell things like don't...", #26: "<chris> as an aside C4::Search makes my brain hurt", #34: "<chris> oh except that time .. when katipo...", and #39: "chris <chris> nope, ive made it my aim in life..." |
23:58 | pianohackr|work | @news |
23:58 | munin | pianohackr|work: News for #koha: (#4) Organization |
23:58 | Genji | @quote get 19 |
23:58 | munin | Genji: Quote #19: "<chris> i just want to yell things like don't kick the ball, pass it and Feed the backs" (added by jdavidb at 08:11 AM, July 27, 2009) |
23:58 | pianohackr|work | @news 4 |
23:58 | munin | pianohackr|work: Next general IRC meeting at 19:00 UTC+0 on 13 January 2010 (Subject: "Organization", added by 15 on 06:54 PM, December 04, 2009) |
23:58 | Genji | @quote get 34 |
23:58 | munin | Genji: Quote #34: "<chris> oh except that time .. when katipo decided to write an ils just for fun, then forced HLT to use it" (added by gmcharlt at 02:23 PM, September 16, 2009) |
23:59 | Genji | ... |
23:59 | Oh, a joke. | |
23:59 | @search rach | |
23:59 | munin | Genji: There were no matching configuration variables. |
23:59 | Genji | @quote search rach |
23:59 | munin | Genji: No matching quotes were found. |
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