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| 01:23 | brendan | later all |
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| 02:11 | wizzyrea_mobile | Hey |
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| 02:40 | wizzyrea_mobile | Hi, actually no trouble just dipping annoyingly in and out, is how it works on the phone |
| 02:41 | How is everybody? | |
| 02:42 | Ought to set up my irc bouncer I guess so it doesn't kick me out every time I quit the app | |
| 02:44 | bah, going to get my netbook brb | |
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| 02:48 | chris | heh |
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| 02:49 | chris | hey netbook wizzy |
| 02:49 | Wizzyrea_ | hello :) |
| 02:50 | what excitement is going on here this evening | |
| 02:53 | chris | not a lot |
| 02:53 | ive finished gardening and was poking at solr | |
| 02:55 | Wizzyrea_ | sounds like a productive day |
| 02:56 | chris | yep, now im just waiting for kickoff at in 3.5 hours to see if we can qualify for the football world cup |
| 02:57 | Wizzyrea_ | :) sounds like a lovely saturday |
| 02:57 | chris | well i detest gardening, but apart from that, it's good :) |
| 02:59 | Wizzyrea_ | haha. I like to garden, but we rent so there's not much point |
| 03:02 | chris | you didnt go out drinking with sharon and heather? |
| 03:02 | Wizzyrea_ | no, I wish I had though |
| 03:02 | chris | looked like fun |
| 03:02 | Wizzyrea_ | heh yea |
| 03:02 | heather doesn't drink | |
| 03:03 | ever | |
| 03:03 | chris | ahh |
| 03:03 | Wizzyrea_ | today has been overall a poor day experience |
| 03:04 | chris | bummer |
| 03:04 | Wizzyrea_ | eh, it's ok. |
| 03:18 | chris_n | g'evening |
| 03:18 | chris | heya chris_n |
| 03:19 | chris_n | hi chris, how's the garden doing there? |
| 03:19 | chris | pretty much done for the day |
| 03:19 | * chris_n | is just finishing up harvesting broccoli and cauliflower |
| 03:20 | chris_n | monster sizes this year |
| 03:20 | 25 to 30cm across | |
| 03:21 | Wizzyrea_ | holy moly |
| 03:21 | chris_n | yeah, not your typical "Wal-Mart, etc" sizes |
| 03:22 | chris | hehe |
| 03:22 | chris_n | ever tried fried cauliflower? |
| 03:23 | make up your favorite shrimp batter, cut up the cauliflower, dip, drop in the deep fat fryer, cook until golden brown, add salt (to help taste and blood pressure), enjoy | |
| 03:25 | chris | heh |
| 03:25 | sounds good | |
| 03:26 | Wizzyrea_ | I've had cauliflower tempura before, yum |
| 03:39 | chris_n | I like most anything with cauliflower in it |
| 03:39 | come to think of it... I like most anything. | |
| 03:39 | Wizzyrea_ | we used to make the most awesome pesto mashed cauliflower |
| 03:40 | chris_n | man, now I'm hungry and nowhere near the fridge... :-( |
| 03:42 | Wizzyrea_ | http://www.grouprecipes.com/37[…]-cauliflower.html |
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| 03:45 | Wizzyrea_ | welcome back brendan |
| 03:46 | brendan | howdy Wizzyrea_ |
| 03:47 | @wunder 93117 | |
| 03:47 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 14.4�C (7:45 PM PST on November 13, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Rising). Wind Advisory in effect until 3 am PST Saturday... |
| 03:47 | Wizzyrea_ | @wunder 66047 |
| 03:47 | munin | Wizzyrea_: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 15.6�C (9:46 PM CST on November 13, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.61 in 1002.6 hPa (Rising). |
| 03:48 | brendan | brrrrr.... it feels colder than that here |
| 03:49 | chris | heh |
| 03:49 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
| 03:49 | munin | chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 13.0�C (10:39 PM EST on November 13, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008 hPa (Rising). |
| 03:50 | chris_n | gotcha both beat ;-) |
| 03:50 | chris | @wunder wellington, nz |
| 03:50 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (4:00 PM NZDT on November 14, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). |
| 03:50 | chris | it needs to get colder here |
| 03:50 | so the bahrain soccer players get too cold | |
| 03:50 | chris_n | nasty here too; we're just escaping the remnants of ida |
| 03:50 | heh | |
| 03:50 | chris | rain would be ideal |
| 03:50 | Wizzyrea_ | hehe |
| 03:51 | chris_n is there lots of flooding or are you just getting wind and rain | |
| 03:51 | chris_n | wednesday we had 6 inches (15cm) of rain |
| 03:51 | Wizzyrea_ | jebus |
| 03:51 | chris_n | thursday probably nearly the same |
| 03:52 | * chris_n | checks to see if his life jacket and raft are still nearby |
| 03:52 | Wizzyrea_ | yikes! |
| 03:52 | http://www.grouprecipes.com/57[…]oy-ice-cream.html another one of ours | |
| 03:53 | * chris_n | is going to try Wizzyrea's pesto this weekend |
| 03:53 | chris | ok, this is the front runner for the conference |
| 03:55 | chris_n | Wizzyrea: mexican vanilla ++ |
| 03:55 | brendan | sweet - let's see |
| 03:55 | chris_n | we have friends bring us a quart every so often from MX |
| 03:55 | Wizzyrea_ | although I have read that sometimes the mexican stuff is toxic :( |
| 03:56 | chris | http://www.mercure.com/gb/hote[…]eet/meeting.shtml |
| 03:57 | Wizzyrea_ | ooh fancy |
| 03:57 | chris | they are one of the few that offer just the venue |
| 03:57 | brendan | Photo's always look great |
| 03:57 | chris | without having to use their caterers |
| 03:57 | Wizzyrea_ | yes, that would likely be important |
| 03:57 | chris | also that is the same street as my work, just 1 block away |
| 03:58 | so im gonna go look on monday | |
| 03:58 | Wizzyrea_ | how conveeeenient |
| 03:58 | chris | they offered a nice deal on accom to |
| 03:58 | $114.00 incl GST (single) or $129.00 incl GST (double/ twin) | |
| 03:58 | chris_n | nice looking outfit |
| 03:58 | brendan | in NZD |
| 03:59 | chris | 84, and 95 in USD (under current exchange rates) |
| 03:59 | brendan | that's pretty nice |
| 03:59 | chris | and we are at all time high |
| 04:00 | so assuming it returns closer to normal | |
| 04:00 | that would be more like 70 | |
| 04:02 | (you can get cheaper, quite a lot cheaper in the backpackers or yha, and the motels) | |
| 04:02 | i plan to give a big range, so that ppl can suit their budget | |
| 04:03 | but that doesnt sound too bad, i think it is less than it cost me for the holiday inn in plano | |
| 04:04 | and its right in the cbd | |
| 04:04 | brendan | yeah -- most people should be able to find their own accommodations too. |
| 04:04 | chris | yep |
| 04:04 | im just gonna try and list all the ones i know of | |
| 04:04 | in one place, to make it easier | |
| 04:05 | brendan | that's all going to be good information |
| 04:05 | chris | i added some tips, like dont tip, for god sakes dont start that trend here |
| 04:05 | :) | |
| 04:05 | brendan | heh |
| 04:05 | chris_n | lol |
| 04:06 | chris: here they are so spoiled that way that some places go ahead and add the tip into your bill for you :-P | |
| 04:07 | Wizzyrea_ | god, i wish they'd just pay wait staff properly |
| 04:07 | chris | http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]ngton#travel_tips |
| 04:08 | chris_n | I think that wait staff is permitted pay less than minimum |
| 04:08 | brendan | tip - don't pet a burning dog |
| 04:09 | chris | heh |
| 04:09 | chris_n | @quote add <brendan> tip - don't pet a burning dog |
| 04:09 | munin | chris_n: The operation succeeded. Quote #46 added. |
| 04:09 | chris | the taxi is a good tip, lots of people dont know that its deregulated |
| 04:09 | Wizzyrea_ | tip - don't eat yellow snow |
| 04:10 | brendan | yeah the taxi thing is interesting |
| 04:10 | chris | oh.. also you cant hail taxi's |
| 04:10 | you either have to get them at a taxi stand | |
| 04:10 | or call them | |
| 04:10 | i should add that | |
| 04:11 | * chris_n | thinks a taxi in NZ could be expensive... no? |
| 04:11 | chris | hmmm |
| 04:11 | 20 min ride = about 22$ | |
| 04:11 | nz | |
| 04:11 | (no tip and tax on top of that) | |
| 04:12 | chris_n | what's a rental car cost? |
| 04:12 | chris | $4 on the bus |
| 04:12 | Wizzyrea_ | bus++ |
| 04:12 | chris | buses are fine here, i know aht some places in the US buses are scary |
| 04:12 | but here they are fine | |
| 04:12 | $65 a day | |
| 04:13 | (you have to pay for your own gas) | |
| 04:13 | id thoroughly recommend not hiring a car for the time you are in wellington | |
| 04:13 | buses and the train go everywhere, and parking costs a lot | |
| 04:14 | chris_n | sounds like spain |
| 04:14 | buses, trains, subway | |
| 04:14 | cheap, quick, and neat | |
| 04:15 | chris | plus US tourists have a habit of crashing into things :) |
| 04:15 | brendan | I'm excited to see the birds of NZ |
| 04:15 | chris | get off the plane, jetlagged, 13 hour flight, get a car, crash it driving out of the airport |
| 04:15 | * chris_n | tends to drive on the left side of the road occasionally even here :-) |
| 04:15 | brendan | I want to see some of the crazy rubber eating kea's (is that right chris) |
| 04:16 | chris | yep, only in the south island tho (in the wild) |
| 04:16 | brendan | or a kiwi |
| 04:16 | chris | you can see both of those in the wellington zoo |
| 04:16 | unlikely to ever see a kiwi in the wild | |
| 04:16 | i never have | |
| 04:16 | brendan | cool |
| 04:16 | chris | i have seen kea in the wild tho |
| 04:16 | brendan | yeah I've heard that about kiwi's |
| 04:17 | There are some birds that live hear -- that I've been searching for 15 years for and haven't seen | |
| 04:17 | I heard the kea are really silly and actually much bigger than one would think | |
| 04:17 | chris | yep |
| 04:17 | they are really big | |
| 04:19 | brendan | bbiab |
| 04:19 | chris | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRW4ztbY8Ok |
| 04:19 | and smart | |
| 04:21 | chris_n | cool |
| 04:21 | brendan | wow that's pretty amazing |
| 04:21 | * chris_n | finds himself cheering |
| 04:22 | chris_n | I wonder if one could write perl code to open an electronic door for food? |
| 04:23 | Wizzyrea_ | haha how funny |
| 04:24 | chris_n | you know you're up past your bedtime when you see the emails from your cron jobs dropping in your inbox |
| 04:24 | chris | hehe |
| 04:24 | Wizzyrea_ | ohhh true |
| 04:24 | chris | brendan: they eat rubber seals off the roof of campervans, and get inside and eat all the food |
| 04:24 | (thru the skylight) | |
| 04:25 | chris_n | aggressive critters! |
| 04:25 | chris | yep |
| 04:25 | chris_n | I thought black bears were bad for going after food |
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| 04:28 | chris | ok time to go cook my family some food |
| 04:28 | you guys should sleep :) | |
| 04:29 | chris_n | :-) |
| 04:34 | brendan | Ok good night -- sleep well all |
| 04:34 | catchya tomorrow | |
| 04:34 | :P | |
| 04:38 | chris_n | bye |
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| 04:56 | chris_n | time to find sleep |
| 04:56 | g'night | |
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| 07:40 | Ropuch | Morning #koha |
| 09:01 | chris | nz just qualified for the football world cup in 2010 |
| 09:01 | * chris | is happy |
| 09:01 | chris | 2nd time ever, and 27 years since the last time |
| 09:02 | 1-0 vs bahrain | |
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| 18:36 | Topic for #koha is now Discussion channel for the Koha ILS | Next foundation forming meeting is scheduled at 19:00 UTC+0 on 3 December 2009 | |
| 18:36 | chris_n2 | wb logbot_backup |
| 18:37 | chris | ricardo: huge parties in wellington last night |
| 18:38 | ricardo | chris: Nice |
| 18:39 | chris: I'm getting a bug (may be due to my setup). I'm getting correctly the "Português" and "English" links in the lower part of the screen, but when I click on "Português", nothing happens: I remain in English | |
| 18:39 | chris: That's in Firefox... In IE, the Bug is reversed (I start in "Português" and can't change it to "English") | |
| 18:39 | chris: I'm trying to debug this now | |
| 18:41 | chris | and it is setting the cookie? |
| 18:41 | ricardo | chris: That's where I'm now actually ("setlanguagecookie") |
| 18:42 | pianohackr|work | chris_n2: you can set the right database in yaz-client by using base biblios |
| 18:43 | chris | chris_n2: http://stats.workbuffer.org/ is back |
| 18:43 | ricardo: you can view cookies in firefox, i would look and see if it is being set | |
| 18:43 | chris_n2 | pianohacker|work: that worked; tnx! |
| 18:44 | tnx chris | |
| 18:44 | ricardo | chris: Where in Firefox? (if it's hard to explain it, I'll google it) |
| 18:44 | chris: Well, the Web Developer extension shows it: | |
| 18:44 | chris | in prefences |
| 18:45 | ricardo | KohaOpacLanguage |
| 18:45 | pt-PT | |
| 18:45 | myhost.mydomain.info | |
| 18:45 | Path: / | |
| 18:45 | I'll delete them all and try again | |
| 18:46 | Same results, apparently :( | |
| 18:47 | chris | right so the cookie is being set, it just doesnt look like its being read |
| 18:48 | ricardo | chris: OK... So, I'll debug "themelanguage" now |
| 18:50 | chris | just put a warn in there showing what language it thnks it should be showing |
| 18:50 | ricardo | chris: Right |
| 18:55 | chris: Yep... It's "accept_language" that's overwriting the value of "pt-PT" that was (correcty) written in the cookie | |
| 18:56 | chris: I may have an idea for a fix... Let me try it | |
| 18:59 | Woo-hoo! :) | |
| 18:59 | Now, I just have to test this with other languages and without cookies working | |
| 19:00 | chris_n2 | any thoughts on why a search produces results in yaz-client, but not in koha staff-client or opac? |
| 19:01 | chris | chris_n2: i normally stop zebra, then run it from the commandline, so i can see whats happening, then hit a search url and see what it says |
| 19:05 | pastebot | "ricardo" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "Proposed fix for the "themelanguage" sub in Output.pm" (17 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/57 |
| 19:05 | ricardo | chris: This works for me. Give me your opinion and I'll submit this as a patch if this looks good for you |
| 19:08 | chris | you dont need the extra if $lang |
| 19:08 | since you will only get to that point if $lang is set | |
| 19:08 | apart from that it looks fine | |
| 19:08 | ricardo | chris: Right... I though so too, but wasn't sure. |
| 19:09 | (I didn't know if $lang was UNDEF it it would appear equal or different from "") | |
| 19:10 | chris | yes it would the first if would be better as if ($lang && $lang ne ''){ |
| 19:10 | chris_n2 | chris: what switches do you start zebra with when troubleshooting? |
| 19:10 | chris | that would stop any warns |
| 19:10 | chris_n2 | -v none,fatal,warn ? |
| 19:10 | chris | yep |
| 19:10 | * chris_n2 | cannot get any output from cli with those |
| 19:10 | ricardo | chris_n2: Right... But then the "else" could apply to any of the 2 cases. And I don't want that |
| 19:10 | chris | try -v debug |
| 19:11 | no it wouldnt | |
| 19:11 | chris_n2 | ok gobs of output now ;-) |
| 19:11 | ricardo | chris: Like I said, I wasn't sure. So, I preferred to apply "paranoid programming" :) |
| 19:12 | http://dictionary.reference.co[…]programming?jss=0 | |
| 19:12 | chris | well what you have there will cause warns in the error log |
| 19:12 | more paranoid is to go if ($lang && $lang ne ''){ | |
| 19:12 | chris_n2 | chris: ok, lots of output on a working install during a search; *no* output on the none working install doing a search |
| 19:12 | chris | then it wont ever complain abou uninitialized variables |
| 19:12 | chris_n2 | yet, yaz-client works fine on both |
| 19:13 | chris | chris_n2: i bet its not talking to zebra then |
| 19:13 | koha that is | |
| 19:13 | chris_n2 | koha-conf.xml problem? |
| 19:13 | chris | check nozebra isnt on |
| 19:13 | chris_n2 | checked earlier and it is not |
| 19:13 | ricardo | chris: OK... Because I'm setting lang in the else block, I guess that's OK. Right, you convinced me. Let me do that then. |
| 19:13 | chris_n2 | but I am using tcp for zebra since I'm on win32 |
| 19:14 | but made the changes in koha-conf.xml | |
| 19:14 | chris | right |
| 19:14 | i bet its not actually connecting | |
| 19:14 | chris_n2 | <listen id="biblioserver" >tcp:@:9998/bibliosocket</listen> |
| 19:14 | <listen id="authorityserver" >tcp:@:9999/authoritysocket</listen> | |
| 19:14 | chris | you proobably need to do some warns in C4::Context |
| 19:14 | chris_n2 | ok |
| 19:14 | chris | see if its actually managing to connect to zebra |
| 19:15 | because you should get at least that | |
| 19:15 | even if then the search failed with a 109 or something, would still see the connect | |
| 19:16 | chris_n2 | I assume Zconn is responsible for the connection? |
| 19:17 | chris | richardo: can you paste the diff of your changes |
| 19:17 | pastebot | "chris" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "The code in master" (7 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/58 |
| 19:18 | chris | ricardo: that is what is in master and that seems to work fine |
| 19:18 | ricardo | chris: Yes, but the version in 3.0.x is different (patch from Nahuel): |
| 19:19 | pianohackr|work | Unintentional POD humor, vol 23: "FIXME: This function reflects how inscrutable fines logic is. Fix both." |
| 19:19 | ricardo | http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]43ebca1c7c98238cf |
| 19:20 | chris: And my patch is based on the version from Nahuel (should be applied *after* applying his patch) | |
| 19:20 | chris | yep, the master implementation of that sub routine seems much cleaner to me ricardo |
| 19:21 | ricardo | chris: But maybe Nahuel + My solution works for the case when "http accept language" misses some language that is set in the cookie and translations (like "pt-PT", that doesn't exist in the list of languages in Firefox as that, but only as "pt") |
| 19:22 | chris | i doubt it |
| 19:22 | but it will stop it using languages that havent been set in the syspref | |
| 19:23 | chris_n2 | interesting... ZOOM::Connection returns a connection object without a port or host attribute set |
| 19:23 | ricardo | chris: "but it will stop it using languages that havent been set in the syspref". Stop "it"... By "it" do you mean "the bug"? |
| 19:23 | chris | different bug |
| 19:23 | where someone has the templates for de lying around | |
| 19:24 | ricardo | Bug 3754 |
| 19:24 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3754 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinettibiblibre.com, ASSIGNED, Language detection doesn't take really care of syspref |
| 19:24 | chris | but hasnt allowed that as an option |
| 19:24 | ricardo | This bug ^^^ ? |
| 19:24 | chris | yeah |
| 19:24 | ricardo | chris: OK. Got it. |
| 19:25 | chris | we will have to cherry-pick and make the 2 patches into one tidier one for master |
| 19:25 | ricardo | OK... So I'll submit my patch as a follow-up patch for Nahuel's for 3.0.x branch. I'll let the "powers to be" to decide if they apply it to the Master as well or not |
| 19:25 | chris: Fine by me! :) | |
| 19:25 | chris | otherwise this will just break again for 3.2 |
| 19:25 | ricardo | chris: *nod* |
| 19:25 | chris | and the RM is not going to have time to do that |
| 19:25 | so someone will have to do it for him | |
| 19:26 | ideally every patch should apply to master, patches only for 3.0.x branch makes life hard | |
| 19:26 | but what's done is done now | |
| 19:26 | ricardo | chris: Well... If the RM wants to save time, I guess he could as well cherry-pick the two patches as they are from 3.0.x... If he wants a tidier patch, he may ask for it or do it himself |
| 19:27 | chris | wrong way round |
| 19:27 | ricardo | chris: I understand that, but people test things that are closer to their setups. My installations are 3.0.x so those are the one that I have setups |
| 19:27 | chris | patches should go for master, and be cherry picked to 3.0.x if they are valid bugfixes |
| 19:28 | yep, be aware that if i am RM for 3.4 i will be stricter about it though | |
| 19:28 | ricardo | chris: That's your right :) |
| 19:29 | chris | either ppl send patches for both, or just master :) |
| 19:29 | (by both it will be master and 3.2.x) | |
| 19:29 | ricardo | chris: I can send the patches for both... but I can NOT test them now. I don't have a setup for "master". And I don't like to submit things that I haven't tested :( |
| 19:29 | I can only do (partial) tests for 3.0.x | |
| 19:30 | chris | thats fine for now, like i say whats done is done, there are a bunch of patches that have been only applied for 3.0.x |
| 19:30 | that are going to be missed for master .. just dont want to repeat that for 3.4 | |
| 19:32 | ricardo | chris: I understand awhat you're saying... I see several pros and cons for the several choices, so I'll leave it up to you (and others) for the best decision if/when this decision happens again for 3.4 |
| 19:33 | chris | the major con is bugs that are fixed, all come back with 3.2 |
| 19:33 | ricardo | chris: *nod* Regression |
| 19:33 | chris | i thnk that outweighs all pros |
| 19:34 | the main solution i think will be the maintainer and manager will have to constantly be making sure bugfixes are applied to both | |
| 19:34 | ricardo | chris: If you get some testers so that people can test patches submitted by people that haven't tested them for the newest branch, that's great |
| 19:34 | chris | an untested patch is better than no patch in my book, because at least the RM will see it |
| 19:34 | ricardo | And then, you could do what you're saying: commit to newest branch and cherry pick it to oldest |
| 19:35 | chris | yep, we'll figure something out |
| 19:35 | ricardo | chris: OK. That's the tradeoff - is it better or worse to accept "untested patch"? I guess that depends on the RM. Because you will be the RM, more power to you :) |
| 19:36 | chris | oh it wont get accepted untested |
| 19:36 | but at least it will be in the queue to get tested | |
| 19:36 | ricardo | chris: Right |
| 19:36 | chris | if its not submitted, it just doesnt even get seen |
| 19:37 | ricardo | chris: Sure |
| 19:37 | chris | its a shame liblime lost acmoore |
| 19:37 | (amongst all the other developers too) | |
| 19:38 | he had started work on a smoke test server, which could be used to apply patches and run automated tests | |
| 19:39 | was a good start along making it a little bit easier, at least you would spot things that blew up fast | |
| 19:39 | chris_n2 | chris: found it: <listen id="biblioserver" >tcp:@:9998/bibliosocket</listen> should be <listen id="biblioserver" >tcp:localhost:9998/bibliosocket</listen> |
| 19:39 | works like a charm now | |
| 19:39 | chris | ah ha |
| 19:39 | cool | |
| 19:40 | silent_errors-- | |
| 19:40 | chris_n2 | the zebra manual shows the @ in that position, but it does not work here |
| 19:40 | yeah | |
| 19:40 | ricardo | chris: *Nod* acmoore++ |
| 19:44 | chris: | |
| 19:44 | [Koha-patches] [PATCH] Bug 3754: Follow-up patch | |
| 19:44 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3754 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinettibiblibre.com, ASSIGNED, Language detection doesn't take really care of syspref |
| 19:44 | ricardo | http://lists.koha.org/pipermai[…]ember/004847.html |
| 19:45 | Going to watch the Portugal - Bosnia soccer game now (for the World Cup 2010). Take care! :) | |
| 19:46 | chris_n2 | well, it appears that Koha is fully functional now on my MSWin32 XP Pro machine |
| 19:46 | pianohackr|work | Yay! |
| 19:47 | * chris_n2 | now will try to remember how he did it |
| 19:47 | pianohackr|work | chris_n2++ |
| 19:47 | now, I have a circ-related question for you all | |
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| 19:47 | chris_n2 | there has been quite a bit of help from some of the folks who maintain Strawberry as well |
| 19:47 | chris | ricardo: maybe nz will play portugal :) |
| 19:47 | pianohackr|work | on my local version, items are not set to itemlost = 0 when returned |
| 19:48 | I haven't seen anything that would fix the bug in latest master | |
| 19:48 | Am I smoking something, is this not a bug, ...? | |
| 19:48 | chris | i wonder when it got introduced, cos that sounds like something people would have noticed |
| 19:48 | pianohackr|work | you would think |
| 19:48 | * chris_n2 | agrees |
| 19:48 | chris_n2 | a regression probably |
| 19:49 | chris | a regression from 1999 |
| 19:49 | :) | |
| 19:49 | chris_n2 | hehe |
| 19:49 | chris | lemme try it |
| 19:49 | * chris_n2 | contemplates going to see http://playmakersrep.blogspot.com/ |
| 19:49 | chris_n2 | a 6.5 hour production |
| 19:52 | pianohackr|work | A simple ModItem( { itemlost => 0 }, undef, $item->{'itemnumber'} ); above $messages->{'WasLost'} = 1; in AddReturn fixes the problem for me |
| 19:53 | chris | Not checked out. |
| 19:53 | Item was lost, now found. | |
| 19:53 | is what i get on the screen lemme check the db | |
| 19:54 | yep that seems to set it back | |
| 19:55 | lemme check the code im running | |
| 19:59 | hmm it seems to be working for me | |
| 20:00 | pianohackr|work | Blergh. Are you on latest master, and if not, do you have a link to your git repo? |
| 20:00 | chris | latest master |
| 20:02 | rickw joined #koha | |
| 20:02 | rickw | good morning ... n e 1 awake! |
| 20:03 | chris_n2 | hi rickw |
| 20:03 | pianohackr|work | hi rickw |
| 20:04 | chris: this is really confusing. ModDateLastSeen is the only function that would reset itemlost, and it seems like it wouldn't be called if the item wasn't checked out | |
| 20:04 | rickw | may I ask a zerbra relateed searching pquestion? |
| 20:05 | pianohackr|work | maybe |
| 20:05 | chris | hmm weird pianohackr|work, the item i checked in wasnt checked out |
| 20:05 | * pianohackr|work | tries this again |
| 20:05 | rickw | we are getting an ERROR 114 from zebra |
| 20:06 | the catalogue searhc works on our Koha/3.0.1 instance when we do a simple search, e.g. for "drama" 220 books returned | |
| 20:06 | chris | pianohackr|work: looking at AddReturn ModDateLastSeen should get called, it would only not if the item was withdrawn |
| 20:06 | rickw | when we ask for "items available" we get 0 results (there should be many) and the ERROR 114 occurs |
| 20:07 | pianohackr|work | chris: okay, yes it should. There's something else wrong, thanks for jamming my brain into gear |
| 20:07 | chris | pianohackr|work: ahh i lie, its when independent branches are on that it bails out |
| 20:07 | rickw | on anthoer Koha/3.0.1 the original search and refinment to "avilable items" does work fine, so i suspect it is something to do with differences in config between the two kohas |
| 20:07 | chris | pianohackr|work: it could have something to do with that maybe? |
| 20:07 | if ($hbr ne $branch && C4::Context->preference("IndependantBranches")){ | |
| 20:08 | it returns if that condition is met (before ModDateLastSeen) | |
| 20:08 | pianohackr|work | Oh-hoh, I see what happened. gmcharlt's b59e0166125efdd381078ccf57ef7fd7b03b1cd4 , which I have not applied to our local copy yet, fixed this problem along with some others |
| 20:09 | Not in the mood to deal with the merge conflicts a complete merge from origin would cause, I'll just cherry-pick it | |
| 20:09 | Thanks again, chris | |
| 20:09 | chris | np |
| 20:10 | pianohackr|work: i run an originmaster and a master | |
| 20:10 | rebase into originmaster, merge or cherry-pick across | |
| 20:11 | pianohackr|work | right; main headache is resolving updates from head with local customizations |
| 20:11 | chris_n2 | rickw: have you tried 'rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r' |
| 20:13 | chris | pianohackr|work: yep, i try and keep local customisations in their own branches, and then merge them in .. to reduce the risk of conflicts or to at least make them small conflicts |
| 20:13 | ie a branch for each feature | |
| 20:13 | rickw | chris_n2: yup, many times |
| 20:14 | chris_n2 | rickw: also 114 appears to be 'Unsupported Use attribute'... perhaps your ccl.properties maybe messed up? |
| 20:14 | rickw | here is the diff between the two separate kohas: |
| 20:14 | chris_n2 | http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agenc[…]fns/bib1diag.html |
| 20:14 | rickw | the firt has a catalogue built in situ in Koha 3 |
| 20:14 | pianohackr|work | chris: Ahh, so master is the union of all of those customizations? |
| 20:14 | rickw | the second (that does not work right) has a catalogue imported from Koha/2.2.9 (using the notes on the wiki for for 22_to_30 migration) |
| 20:15 | strongly suspect it is the result of the 229 conversion cuasing the troubles | |
| 20:15 | or perhaps differences in the MARCs (the 229 migration MARC is different from the other one) | |
| 20:15 | pianohackr|work | rickw: do you have all of your item fields mapped correctly? |
| 20:15 | chris_n2 | rickw: I had some issues with marc records exported from koha 3.0.x and imported back into HEAD... isbn, issn fields were too long |
| 20:15 | * chris_n2 | has to run |
| 20:15 | chris_n2 | bbiab |
| 20:16 | chris | its definitely a conf problem |
| 20:16 | rickw | unforuntaely, someone else is doing the MARC stuff, not me |
| 20:16 | but I will pass on anthing i learn :) | |
| 20:16 | "ccl.properties" ... will have a look into that | |
| 20:16 | (this zebra stuff is a big black box to me) | |
| 20:17 | pianohackr|work | there's also etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/record.abs |
| 20:17 | chris | 114 tells you its trying to search on a attribute that hasnt been defined |
| 20:18 | rickw | okay ... might be something to do with the refining the serach, i.e. basic search is fine, but when we add more terms to it, ERROR 114 |
| 20:19 | the refinement to "items available" fails | |
| 20:19 | and refinement to "Brisbane branch only: fails as well | |
| 20:20 | pianohackr|work | yes; for some reason, koha/zebra is having trouble getting from to "items available" to correct subfield of 952 |
| 20:23 | rickw | ah ... a known problem? |
| 20:24 | pianohackr|work | it's a conf problem, works here |
| 20:25 | basically, you want to make sure that items.onloan is mapped and that record.abs is pointing at the same marc subfield as koha | |
| 20:26 | rickw | ok |
| 20:27 | similar prob with | |
| 20:27 | branch | |
| 20:28 | pianohackr|work | yup, so in that case, just rinse and repeat with items.holdingbranch |
| 20:28 | rickw | and how does record.abs map into the MARC? |
| 20:29 | pianohackr|work | It's pretty direct, here's an excerpt: |
| 20:29 | melm 947$q onloan:n,onloan:w | |
| 20:29 | rickw | okay wil have a play with that |
| 20:29 | since teh record.abs files on the working and non working instance are the same | |
| 20:29 | pianohackr|work | okay |
| 20:29 | rickw | it must be in the MARC mapping in mysql |
| 20:29 | pianohackr|work | yup |
| 20:30 | rickw | thanks! hope will nail this today :) |
| 20:30 | btw: are you Jesse on the Koha list? | |
| 20:30 | pianohackr|work | yes I am :) |
| 20:30 | this is my response to your email | |
| 20:30 | rickw | thanks for helping out here and on the list ... you solved our indexing prob a while back (Local thingy wasn't mappe in record.abs) |
| 20:31 | i guess IRC rulz! | |
| 20:31 | i posted to the indexdata list ... it will be intereting to see how much those guys knpow about Koha specifically in the zebra context | |
| 20:31 | i best be off and discuss this with our MARC expert | |
| 20:31 | cheers guys | |
| 20:32 | pianohackr|work | see ya |
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| 20:46 | pianohackr|work | bbl, headed home from work |
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| 20:54 | rickw joined #koha | |
| 20:54 | rickw | hello again |
| 20:54 | i am chaning things (MARc map) in record.abs | |
| 20:54 | changing | |
| 20:55 | once the hanges are in, do I need to rebuild the zebra index? | |
| 20:58 | chris_n2 | rickw: I believe you do |
| 20:59 | rickw | does make sense |
| 20:59 | strange thing is: the mapping for onloan is correct, but a few others are not | |
| 21:00 | perhaps ALL the mapping have to be exactl correct before it will work properly (syngery amongst the MARC tags, that sort of thing) | |
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| 22:28 | pianohacker | back |
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| 22:35 | chris_n2 | pianohacker: checkout http://i36.tinypic.com/1pe0t5.jpg |
| 22:36 | pianohacker | photographic evidence, even :) |
| 22:36 | cool | |
| 22:41 | * chris_n2 | heads off for some BoJangle's chicken |
| 22:51 | brendan | got my invite for google wave today |
| 23:05 | ricardo | brendan: That's cool. I received one from a friend some days ago. I think that I won't explore it for a few days, though |
| 23:13 | chris: Still here? | |
| 23:51 | BRB | |
| 23:51 | (Updating Firefox) | |
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