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00:42 | chris_n2 | ok, perl guru's.... in a perl xs file, what is the proper way to print to STDOUT? would it be 'sprintf' or 'printf'... 'warn' does not seem to work due to the C-ish nature of external function files I guess |
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00:49 | chris_n2 | 'printf' works fwiw |
00:51 | chris | warn prints to STDERR |
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02:02 | mason | yep, http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/warn.html |
02:02 | 'Prints the value of LIST to STDERR' | |
02:05 | chris_n2 | somehow I knew that, but did not know that when I needed to :-P |
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02:59 | chris_n2 | any thoughts on this: |
02:59 | C:\Program Files\Zebra\bin>zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f "C:\Progra~1\koha\etc\koha-conf.xml" | |
02:59 | file:///C:/Progra~1/koha/etc/koha-conf.xml:82: element include: XInclude error : failed build URL | |
02:59 | file:///C:/Progra~1/koha/etc/koha-conf.xml:109: element include: XInclude error : failed build URL | |
02:59 | file:///C:/Progra~1/koha/etc/koha-conf.xml:153: element include: XInclude error : failed build URL | |
02:59 | 21:57:43-10/11 [warn] XInclude processing failed for config C:\Progra~1\koha\etc\koha-conf.xml | |
03:05 | Koha on win32: http://i33.tinypic.com/18zkvo.jpg | |
03:26 | and with Zebra running: http://i38.tinypic.com/zupa3k.jpg | |
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03:28 | Amit | hi brendan, chris, chris_n2 |
03:28 | good morning #koha | |
03:29 | chris_n2 | hello Amit |
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04:33 | brendan | hello amit |
04:37 | chris_n2 | g'night |
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07:23 | Ropuch | Morning #koha |
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08:20 | Ropuch | Good morning paul_p |
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08:26 | hdl | bonjour |
08:28 | chris around ? | |
08:33 | chris | yep |
08:33 | just adding sindhi to translate.koha.org | |
08:34 | i think koha will soon be one of the most translated pieces of software | |
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08:48 | kf | morning #koha |
08:53 | hdl | hi kf |
08:54 | armistice day in France. | |
08:54 | Have you seen the celebration for the wall ? | |
08:55 | kf | hi hdl |
08:55 | part of it | |
08:55 | what was in the news, but not the whole celebration | |
09:02 | Ropuch | Hello kf, hdl |
09:02 | chris | hi kf |
09:02 | Ropuch | Hi chris |
09:06 | kf | hi chris and guten morgen Ropuch |
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11:00 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
11:00 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 11.6�C (2:59 AM PST on November 11, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Steady). |
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11:01 | CGI520 | hi |
11:01 | this is nithin from india | |
11:01 | i need a support from u | |
11:01 | pls help me | |
11:02 | how to use koha 2.2.5 database to koha 3 | |
11:08 | greenmang0 | CGI520: as far as i know.. when i tried to use latest version of koha with older koha db.. koha did upgradation of older db |
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11:11 | CGI520 | hi greenmango0 |
11:12 | hi greenmang0 | |
11:12 | pls answer my doubt | |
11:12 | greenmang0 | CGI520: as far as i know.. when i tried to use latest version of koha with older koha db.. koha did upgradation of older db |
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11:24 | niny | error in make test |
11:25 | t/Circulation_barcodedecode.t .. DBD::mysql::db selectrow_array failed: Table 'koha.systempreferences' doesn't exist at /usr/local/src/koha-3.00.02/blib/PERL_MODULE_DIR/C4/Context.pm line 485. | |
11:25 | any idea ? | |
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11:32 | niny | can any body help us |
11:36 | kf | niny: sorry, I dont know how to solve your problem. perhaps try posting your error message to the mailing lists |
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11:40 | Ropuch | niny: have you creted a koha database? |
11:42 | niny | yes Ropuch |
11:43 | with name as 'koha' | |
11:44 | created system user koha | |
11:44 | and db user kohaadmin | |
11:44 | Ropuch | grant all on koha.* to 'kohaadmin'@'localhost' identified by 'katikoan'; |
11:44 | niny | done |
11:45 | I had a XML::LibXML version 1.59 make test error | |
11:45 | I ignored it and done make install | |
11:45 | is that the problem / | |
11:45 | ? | |
11:51 | paul_p2 | niny, for sure this is not why you've "koha.Systempreferences doens't exist" |
11:51 | (but, you may have problems later. You REALLY need the uptodate version of LibXML | |
11:52 | the previous problem can come from mysql login/pass being wrong. | |
11:52 | kf: still about ? | |
11:52 | kf | paul_p2: here |
11:52 | paul_p2 | kf: http://git.biblibre.com/cgi-bi[…]4a0eaabaa0cb8cad? |
11:52 | paul_p2 is now known as paul_p | |
11:52 | niny | we have given root's password and kohaadmin users password as same |
11:53 | paul_p | XSLT for UNIMARC and staff available here |
11:53 | niny: no idea then :( | |
11:53 | kf | paul_p2: sorry, something is wrong with the link |
11:53 | niny | its ok |
11:53 | paul_p | oups... remove the ? at the en |
11:53 | d | |
11:54 | kf | just figured out |
11:54 | * paul_p | head for lunch, REALLY HUNGRY !!! |
11:54 | paul_p | see you in a few minuts |
11:55 | kf | paul_p: lunch time here too - ttyl :) |
11:55 | niny | i am using CentOS 5.3 |
11:55 | and perl-XML-LibXSLT needs version 1.59 | |
11:56 | when we tried to install, it asked for XML-LibXML-1.59 | |
11:57 | But after compilation, make test of XML-LibXML-1.59 shows error | |
11:57 | then we ignored it and went for make install | |
12:36 | kf | kf: back |
12:41 | chris_n | g'morning #koha |
12:41 | @wunder 28334 | |
12:41 | munin | chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 13.0�C (7:19 AM EST on November 11, 2009). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa (Steady). Flash Flood Watch in effect through Thursday evening... |
12:41 | brendan | morning chris_n |
12:42 | chris_n | *lots* of rain here |
12:42 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
12:42 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 10.7�C (4:39 AM PST on November 11, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Steady). |
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13:22 | kf | @wunder konstanz |
13:22 | munin | kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 8.0�C (2:00 PM CET on November 11, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1011 hPa (Falling). |
13:22 | jwagner | good morning kf |
13:22 | kf | good morning jwager |
13:29 | jwagner | I'm working on a patch to fix the default setup for a couple of the delivered z39.50 targets. Are there any others people would like to add into the default list while I'm in there? There was a posting on the Koha list from Agnes Rivers-Moore last month with some useful targets. |
13:41 | Too late now :-) just sent the patch. | |
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14:01 | kf | thd: around? |
14:06 | thd-away: around? | |
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15:26 | jwagner | Any French speakers online for a syspref translation? |
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15:34 | hdl | jwagner: I am here |
15:35 | jwagner | hdl, thanks. See Bug 3093 -- it's causing problems for a couple of my sites, so I'm doing a syspref to turn it off. |
15:35 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3093 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, sedwardsalloycomputing.com, ASSIGNED, Enhance placing of holds in staff interface |
15:35 | jwagner | The description is : If ON, displays the Place Hold button at the top of the search results list in staff and OPAC. Sites whose policies require tighter control over holds may want to turn this option off and limit users to placing holds one at a time. |
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15:46 | hdl | jwagner: Si Activé, affiche le bouton de réservation en hat des listes de résultats à l'intranet et à l'OPAC. Les bibliothèques dont les règles de réservations sont strictes devraient désactiver cette option et restreindre les utilisateur à ne placer qu'une réservation à la fois |
15:47 | jwagner | Merci beaucoup! |
15:48 | wizzyrea | lol oi my 50k record import into my virtualbox koha install is at 18%, I started it yesterday |
15:48 | brendan | out of memory? |
15:48 | wizzyrea | I don't think so, it's still going |
15:49 | I mean, I saw it change from 17% to 18% | |
15:49 | it's just slooow | |
15:49 | (it's a leach off of my working system) | |
15:49 | (my desktop, that is_ | |
15:49 | (and it's not the fastest computer in the world)) | |
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16:01 | |Lupin| | good day all |
16:02 | kf | hi Lupin |
16:02 | |Lupin| | guten nachmitag kf |
16:02 | hallo :) wie geht es dir ? | |
16:03 | oops :) | |
16:06 | hdl | jwagner: no problem |
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16:26 | brendan | Hi Nate |
16:27 | Nate | hiya bren! |
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16:31 | kf | bye #koha |
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16:38 | schuster | wizzyrea - when I did it on my laptop it took forever as my laptop only had 1 gig of memory and my HD was 120 meg - the drive kept getting full due to the indexing of idb - after 24 hours more drive space would be opened as idb ?tables from mysql would delete. |
16:38 | sorry 120 meg should be gig. | |
16:39 | oh I don't know that was last year... ;) | |
16:50 | |Lupin| | hdl: hi. around ? |
17:03 | or perhaps someone else | |
17:03 | is it mandatory that items have barcodes to be able to issue them ? | |
17:06 | wizzyrea | schuster: that may be my problem |
17:06 | 19% woot! | |
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17:21 | brendan | wizzyrea and schuster aren't you both supposed be on holiday today |
17:27 | |Lupin| | see you later, bye |
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17:27 | schuster | brendan - HA! |
17:27 | Only those federal folks... | |
17:27 | brendan | guessing that's a no |
17:35 | wizzyrea | yea,, not us |
17:36 | jwagner | Technically it's a holiday for us, but our company allows us to swap it for the day after Thanksgiving, and I needed to be in today anyway. |
17:36 | wizzyrea | i'm sure I probably could have told them I was too well to attend |
17:36 | ;) | |
17:40 | sekjal | wait, today's a holiday (by someone's reckoning)? |
17:40 | wizzyrea | veterans day in the US |
17:40 | sekjal | really? already? |
17:40 | wizzyrea | yepper |
17:41 | * sekjal | remembers to remember the veterans |
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17:42 | jwagner | Yes, a solemn Remembrance Day/Armistice Day/Veterans Day to all. |
17:52 | chris | morning |
17:53 | brendan | morning chris |
17:54 | paul_p | bye everybody |
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18:35 | |Lupin| | hi again, everybody |
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18:53 | chris | ok of to work |
18:53 | off also | |
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19:32 | chris | back |
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19:34 | richard | hi |
19:35 | chris | hiya richard |
19:35 | chris_n | g'afternoon |
19:38 | |Lupin| | hi richard, chris_n, chris |
19:39 | chris: I've a question abot the Circulation::AddIssue function. Why does it take a barcode ars arguemnt, and why is there no way to pass it an itemnumber ? is that a bug or a design choice ? | |
19:40 | chris | design choice |
19:40 | things without barcodes, shouldnt circulate | |
19:41 | (even if you just copy the itemnumber to the barcode field .. everything you want to circulate needs a barcode) | |
19:42 | |Lupin| | chris: what's the rationale behind that ? I didn't associate bacodes with my items (they are digital), and want to call AddIssue each time a file is downloaded, for statistical purposes. Shall I add barcode to all the items ? |
19:42 | chris: well, it the context of a digital library, it's not that appropriate, IMHO... | |
19:43 | chris | koha isnt designed to run a digital library |
19:43 | you are bending it, so you will have to make compromises | |
19:44 | barcode is used heavily throughout koha, just write some sql to copy the itemnumber to barcode field, et voila you have barcodes | |
19:46 | |Lupin| | chris: hmm the only thing I can do is transmit your remark to my boss... I'm not the one who did this choice |
19:46 | chris: well, it must also work when an item is added, that I'm not sure how to do... | |
19:47 | chris | the easiest way round is to just put a barcode on everything |
19:47 | switch on autobarcode | |
19:47 | and it will do it for you | |
19:47 | |Lupin| | chris: I understand. I's just that I don't know yet how to implement the filling of the barcode item when a new item is added... |
19:48 | chris: ok... I was more or less thinking about doing so. But is it ok to (1) copy itemnumbers in the barcode column and (2) turn on autobarcode ? will that work ? | |
19:49 | chris | yep, what autobarcode does, is just increment |
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19:50 | chris | so it will take the highest number, and increment it |
19:50 | (id turn it on and test it with a couple of items after backing up the db, and running your sql to set all the barcodes) | |
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20:01 | Jarson | Hello, I have a question: what should I do to make a copy of book to be "on loan"? I have no "place hold" option in OPAC |
20:03 | chris | what version of koha? |
20:03 | Jarson | 3.0.4 |
20:04 | chris | do you want people to only be able to place holds on items that are on loan? |
20:04 | if not http://koha.org/documentation/[…]allowonshelfholds | |
20:05 | Jarson | what is a difference if a book is on loan or not? |
20:05 | chris | on loan means you have issued it (checked it out) to someone |
20:05 | ie its not on the shelf, someone has it | |
20:05 | so to make something on loan, you need to check the item out to someone | |
20:06 | Jarson | Ok, I understand. I want to give my users possibility to reserve books :) |
20:07 | so I think the option you have shown me is ok | |
20:07 | chris | yes, but do you want them to only reserve ones that are issued, or any ones? |
20:07 | Jarson | any ones |
20:07 | chris | you need to change that system preference then |
20:07 | Jarson | thank you |
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20:08 | ricardo | Hi everyone! |
20:08 | chris | Hi ricardo |
20:09 | ricardo | chris: Hi chris! :) I have a question for you. If I want that comments in the PO file are loaded by Pootle (in the "comments" boxes, I think) must I put them above or below the "template position comment lines". Or doesn't it matter? (I don't know if I'm being clear enough) |
20:10 | chris | i don't know myself |
20:10 | we'll have to try it and see | |
20:11 | ricardo | chris: OK. I know that it works if it's placed above the "template posiition comment lines" (because there's where Pootle places them). But I'm hand editing the file and I'm placing further comments below them. Oh well, you're right: we'll have to try it |
20:11 | |Lupin| | chris: ok, thanks a lot for the help, t should work, indeed |
20:12 | chris | |Lupin|: cool |
20:12 | |Lupin| | chris: that being said I assume barcode and itemnumbers won't probably stay synchronized so I'll really have to lookup the db for a given itemnumber to find out its barcode |
20:13 | chris | yep |
20:14 | ricardo | |Lupin|: Hi Sébastien! :) |
20:14 | |Lupin| | hello ricardo ! :-) |
20:15 | ricardo | |Lupin| / chris: May one of you please slap me, if I ever again make the mistake of contributing for a translation? ;-) |
20:17 | chris: I'm guessing it's *useless* to translate strings where both the "msgid" and "mgstr" are commented out. Right? | |
20:18 | chris | *nod* |
20:18 | ricardo | chris: Right, thanks... Why are there so many of those, BTW? |
20:19 | (s/mgstr/msgstr above) | |
20:19 | chris | I think the update.pl just comments out ones that dont exist anymore, rather than deleting them |
20:19 | (in case they come back) | |
20:19 | ricardo | chris: Oh, OK. Thanks for the info |
20:19 | chris: In "Arnold Schwarzenegger" style? ;-) | |
20:20 | chris | :) |
20:23 | |Lupin| | ricardo: do you mean that the strings that are commented in the code appear on pootle as strings needing a translation ? |
20:23 | chris | no they dont appear in pootle |
20:23 | ricardo is translating the file locally | |
20:23 | wizzyrea | pootle is the strangest name for a product ever. |
20:23 | ricardo | wizzyrea: LOL! |
20:24 | wizzyrea: For that kind of sentence, you have to write: "Pootle. Strangest. Name. Ever!" ;-) | |
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20:28 | niny | hi |
20:29 | |Lupin| | wizzyrea: you think so ? well knowing where it comes from it's not that strange... |
20:29 | ricardo | niny: Hi |
20:29 | niny | re-installed full OS and trying to install koha |
20:29 | hi ricardo | |
20:29 | make test giving error again | |
20:29 | http://pastebin.org/52805 | |
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20:31 | niny | any idea |
20:31 | |Lupin| | niny: is it a problem ? does Koha not run ? |
20:32 | niny | we didn't try to do 'make install' |
20:33 | |Lupin|, any idea why make test is failing | |
20:33 | or is it safe to run make install | |
20:34 | |Lupin| | niny: I never ran make test and if I were you I think I woldn't bother and just run make install and continue |
20:34 | niny | :) |
20:36 | |Lupin| | strange, I just tried to run make test on my KOha and it asks me for the parameters, like when running perl Makefile.PL, whereas the thing is supposed to be configured already |
20:36 | niny | ok |
20:36 | ricardo | |Lupin|: have you remembered to use "--prev-install /path/to/koha-install-log" at the end of the "perl Makefile.PL" line? |
20:37 | |Lupin| | ricardo: I did _not_ run perl Makefile .pl, but make test... should this one receive the --pre-instal thing somehow, too ? |
20:38 | niny | We had a XML::LibXML problem |
20:38 | ricardo | |Lupin|: Ah, no. It doesn't. That's strange |
20:38 | niny | We are installing Koha-3.00.02 on CentOS-5.3 |
20:38 | ricardo | niny: What problem? |
20:38 | niny: Why don't you install Koha 3.0.4 ? | |
20:39 | |Lupin| | ricardo: there are more recent versions of Koha... perhaps you could try them and see if the problem persists... |
20:39 | niny | it needs XML::LibXSLT-1.59 |
20:39 | and XSLT needs XML::LibXML-1.59 | |
20:39 | chris | 3.0.2 does too |
20:39 | ricardo | niny: You've got to blame chris for that. He's the one that wants to require newer versions of Perl modules ;-) |
20:40 | chris | anything that uses the XSLT (which is all of the 3.0.x series) |
20:40 | earlier versions of that module have a bug | |
20:40 | ricardo | chris: OK, fair enough :) |
20:40 | chris | if you dont want to use xslt tho (you can run koha without) |
20:40 | or you dont care about the bug | |
20:40 | niny | So we compiled and installed 2 of them from CPAN (1.59) |
20:40 | chris | make install wont stop if you ahve an older version |
20:41 | it will just complain, but will still install fine | |
20:41 | niny | so this error 255 is not because of that ? |
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20:42 | niny | our machine is behind a firewall |
20:42 | chris | unlikely, like |Lupin| said, id ignore the make test fail |
20:42 | niny | is that problem ? |
20:42 | chris | and make install anyway |
20:42 | niny | ok chris. we are going to do that |
20:42 | ricardo | niny: But is your problem downloading stuff from CPAN, because you're behind a firewall? |
20:43 | niny | no no, its downloading and installed every perl modules. I just asked |
20:43 | ricardo | niny: Oh, OK |
20:43 | niny | because , these exact setup worked for my friend |
20:44 | at his home machine , we are using the same steps/scenario | |
20:46 | ricardo | niny: OK |
20:46 | niny | ricardo, chris, we are running make install. |
20:47 | chris | good luck |
20:49 | ricardo | (Line 40540 of the PO file. Oh boy... this *never* ends!) |
20:49 | chris | heh |
20:50 | |Lupin| | ricardo: why are you translating locally rather that in pootle ? |
20:50 | ricardo | chris: If, when I send the PO file to you, you send me back an updated file with some hundreds / thousands more of strings to translate, I will *not* be held accountable for my own actions! ;-) |
20:50 | |Lupin|: Speed! :) | |
20:51 | (all the power of "vim" available) | |
20:51 | |Lupin| | ricardo: power ? I'm sure you meant emacs :p |
20:51 | ricardo | |Lupin|: Oh good. Text editors "holy war"! Let me get my rifle, first... ;-) |
20:53 | I'm ashamed to say that I had 2 failed attempts of learning "vim" and 2 failed attempts to learn "emacs". At the 3rd attempt of learning "vim", I finally succeeded. And so, that's what I use | |
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20:54 | |Lupin| | ricardo: regarding editors I'm totally agnostic, using myself joe, emacs and vim from time to time... I said that just to tease you... |
20:54 | ricardo | |Lupin|: eheheh |
20:55 | Besides (g)vim, when in Windows, I also use "Notepad++" and PSPad | |
20:56 | |Lupin| | ricardo: perhaps you know the answer to this: how would you convert the unix-line line terminators to window-like ones ? that is, how would you, under Windows, replace the \n by a \r ? |
20:58 | ricardo | |Lupin|: I think that you'll have to replace "\n" by "\r\n"... but most editors (like Notepad++) have some "Format" option to do that transformation in a mouse click |
20:59 | (there are some coolest terms to translate in UNIMARC world - "infrared line scanning". ooooh) | |
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21:07 | brendan | chris_n around? |
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21:07 | chris_n | brendan: here |
21:08 | brendan | koha/labels/label-edit-batch.pl |
21:08 | would be nice to add a select all button | |
21:08 | when managing a batch of records | |
21:09 | that way if you had thirty barcodes -- and you wanted to export 29 of them | |
21:09 | it would be easier to select all and then unselect one - instead of selecting all 29 | |
21:09 | chris_n | right; I had that on my list somewhere once upon a time.... feel free to add it :-) |
21:09 | brendan | Ok, busy for the next few |
21:10 | maybe on the weekend | |
21:10 | I'll let you know if i get to it | |
21:10 | chris_n | I also intended to do a multiple delete/edit option |
21:11 | brendan | that would be cool |
21:11 | chris_n | I'm deep into the patron card stuff atm, but will revisit the label code prior to submission of the new code |
21:11 | brendan | cool |
21:11 | will send a patch if I get to it | |
21:11 | chris_n | if you don't get to the button before I get there, I'll add it |
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21:12 | chris_n | bbiab |
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21:12 | brendan | thanks chris_n |
21:12 | chris_n++ | |
21:20 | ricardo | chris: I hope to send you the PO file (for Portuguese - staff) on Friday. Is that OK (for 3.0.5)? I think hdl told me he was thinking about releasing it next week |
21:20 | chris | yep, sounds good |
21:21 | ricardo | chris: Cool, thanks :) |
21:21 | Well, I had enough for today. Going to leave back to home. Take care everyone! | |
21:22 | chris | ttyl |
21:22 | ricardo | chris:sure. bye! |
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21:33 | brendan | in a bit #koha |
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21:50 | schuster | just checking if merging bibs made it to the 3.2 timeline? Was that on target? |
21:50 | wizzyrea_mobi-1 | Gah I was hoping jdavidb was still around |
21:50 | chris | schuster: yep it did |
21:50 | wizzyrea_mobi-1 | Didn't biblibre do some of that? |
21:50 | chris | yep |
21:51 | wizzyrea_mobi-1 | Sweet |
21:51 | chris | the patches ahve been sent, i did some testing |
21:51 | im not sure if its been pushed into main git, but im sure it will be when galen has time | |
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21:53 | wizzyrea_mobile | Well the code exists |
21:53 | chris | yep |
21:53 | it just needs to be merged in | |
21:53 | wizzyrea_mobile | So that's good |
21:53 | chris | it exists and its public |
21:53 | which is all you need | |
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22:07 | |Lupin| | k, goodnight folks ! |
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22:10 | chris | brendan: congrats on the new go live |
22:12 | brendan | hey Thanks chris |
22:12 | :) | |
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22:45 | chris_n2 | interesting.... has anyone tested the web-installer lately with a db user that *does not* have correct db permissions? |
22:45 | chris | nope, what happens? |
22:45 | * chris_n2 | notes that it appears to always say the user has all required permissions even when they don't |
22:45 | brendan | heh |
22:46 | chris_n2 | which may account for some of the confused posts to the list which are clearly errors in the user/permissions |
22:46 | chris | *nod* |
22:46 | sounds like we need to fix that | |
22:46 | * chris_n2 | is debugging on his win32 install ;-) |
22:50 | chris_n2 | nothing like a lying installation script |
23:59 | ian | mason: apple on the fridge for you |
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