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00:13 | mason | /me waves |
00:15 | richard | hola mason |
00:16 | russ! | |
00:16 | hiya | |
00:23 | russ | hi guys |
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00:26 | ricardo | Hi everyone |
00:28 | chris | hi ricardo |
00:28 | ricardo | chris: Hi chris. I'm editing the PO file as-we-speak :) |
00:29 | This Staff file is really *huge* :( | |
00:29 | chris | *nod* |
00:29 | ill make sure i merge all changes up into master when the time comes too, so we wont have to redo lots for 3.2 | |
00:30 | ricardo | chris: Thanks! :) |
00:31 | This PO file is strange... some of the "msgid" are in French | |
00:32 | chris | thats probably from the unimarc xlst |
00:32 | ricardo | chris: Right. |
00:32 | chris: are those "UNIMARCslim2OAIDC.xsl" strings in the PO file translatable? | |
00:33 | chris | i wouldn't bother |
00:33 | ricardo | chris: OK :) |
00:33 | chris | alternatively, you could ask kf/cait what she did for the german ones (when she is about) |
00:34 | ricardo | chris: German also use UNIMARC? |
00:34 | chris | nope but she translated everything I think |
00:34 | certainly 0% left to translate, so she either just copied those as is, or translated them | |
00:35 | ricardo | chris: You can always trust the German. Always methodical and thorough, eheh |
00:35 | chris | :) |
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00:52 | CGI203 | Hi, |
00:52 | anybody there? | |
00:52 | ricardo | CGI203: Kinda :) |
00:53 | CGI203 | I m a librarian for Victoria International College in Malaysia |
00:53 | I was thinking to use Koha as my library system | |
00:54 | there are few question i would like to ask here, can i? | |
00:54 | russ | go for it :-) |
00:56 | CGI203 | i just wondering for the circulation module can it be separated accessible instead of sharing together with all the modules under admin |
00:57 | chris | access to the functions is controlled by permissions |
00:57 | you can set a user to only have permissions to use circulation | |
00:58 | CGI203 | can guide me the way to set permission? and how to create new user for accessing purposes |
00:59 | chris | i can point you at the manual that explains all that :) |
00:59 | http://koha.org/documentation/[…]new-staff-patron/ | |
00:59 | CGI203 | thank u very much!!! |
01:00 | chris | http://koha.org/documentation/[…]atron-permissions |
01:03 | CGI203 | tats all i need to do?? |
01:05 | chris | yes |
01:05 | i recommend reading the rest of the manual too | |
01:05 | http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.0 | |
01:05 | CGI203 | thx....so usually which permission should i need to 'check' for those circulation staff??? |
01:06 | chris | circulate |
01:06 | and maybe borrowers if you want them to be able to edit borrower inforamtion also | |
01:06 | and then if you want them to be able to pay fines etc, updatecharges | |
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01:27 | CGI203 | okok....noted with thx |
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01:43 | CGI203 | once i set the permission for my circulation staff.....how can they access to circulation module? |
01:53 | anybody? | |
01:53 | russ | they login to the staff site and if it is the only module they have access to |
01:53 | then it is the only one they will see | |
01:54 | CGI203 | i cant try it in liblime demo..... |
01:55 | so which mean once i set the permission for my circulation staff under patron management.....they can access the staff portal with pre-define user and password? | |
01:55 | russ | yep |
01:56 | a patron/member is just another kind of user | |
01:56 | by default they have very limited privs | |
01:56 | so if someone at your library started off as a patron | |
01:56 | and then became a staff member | |
01:56 | all you would do is tweak the privs for their user | |
01:58 | the documentation nicole has done is excellent ;-) | |
01:58 | http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.0/patrons | |
01:58 | CGI203 | so it tat means even a normal lib patron can access the staff portal? |
02:00 | russ | well in theory but all they would see is the login screen |
02:01 | which is pretty standard for a web based system | |
02:03 | chris | without staffaccess set, they cant do anything except see that login screen |
02:03 | and if you read | |
02:03 | http://koha.org/documentation/[…]atron-permissions | |
02:03 | it says | |
02:03 | IMPORTANT: In order for a staff member to log into the staff interface they must have (at the very least) 'catalogue' permissions which allow them to view the staff interface. | |
02:12 | ricardo | (Just translated "fairy tale"... It's one of my favorite strings ;-) |
02:16 | CGI203 | yeah....i got it...THX!! |
02:22 | ricardo | chris: I'm afraid I will be only able to finish this tomorrow or the day after. Would that be too late for 3.0.5? |
02:22 | chris | you need to ask hdl that one, im not sure |
02:22 | ricardo | chris: Fair enough. Thanks for the info |
02:23 | (I'm around the line 39500) | |
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02:42 | ricardo | OK. That's it for today. Reached line 40197, and I'm officially VERY TIRED :) Going to sleep now |
02:43 | chris | sleep well |
02:43 | ricardo | chris: Thanks! And you have a great day :) |
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02:45 | chris_n2 | grrr.... |
02:45 | what does this mean: production mode - trapped fatal error | |
02:45 | * chris_n2 | thinks it is a nebulous error apache produces when it does not know what else to say |
02:45 | chris | somethign fatal, either compilation error or cant connect to the database |
02:46 | naw its a koha error, check the error logs | |
02:46 | chris_n2 | I thought carp would dump it to the browser? |
02:46 | chris | not if its dying before it can carp |
02:46 | chris_n2 | ahhh |
02:46 | win32 stinks | |
02:48 | and so does my attitude atm :-\ | |
02:48 | chris | hehe |
03:14 | chris_n2 | win32 *must* have its obligatory reboot.... grrrr |
03:14 | bbiab | |
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03:19 | chris_n2 | and we're back |
03:23 | is it possible that apache can serve up cached pages? | |
03:24 | chris | yes |
03:24 | with mod_cache | |
03:24 | http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2[…]od/mod_cache.html | |
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03:26 | Amit | hi chris, brendan, richard |
03:27 | good morning #koha | |
03:27 | @wunder Bangalore | |
03:27 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 20.0�C (5:30 AM IST on November 09, 2009). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. |
03:27 | richard | afternoon Amit |
03:28 | chris_n2 | hello Amit |
03:28 | Amit | heya chris_n2 |
03:35 | chris_n2 | built-in find_file: can't find file C:\\progra~1\\koha\\intranet\\htdocs\\intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/installer/auth.tmpl with path = [ 'C:\\progra~1\\koha\\intranet\\htdocs\\intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes' ] |
03:35 | any ideas? | |
03:35 | obviously the path is wrong | |
03:36 | but where does it come up with this? some apache rewrite foo? | |
03:39 | ahh... T::P error | |
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04:00 | chris_n2 | T::P bug on win32 is more accurate |
04:01 | *sigh* | |
04:01 | maybe we'll get koha on strawberry eventually | |
04:01 | * chris_n2 | wanders off to find sleep |
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07:30 | kf | good morning #koha |
07:31 | Ropuch | Guten Tag, kf [; |
07:32 | kf | Hallo Ropuch, wie geht es dir? ;) |
07:34 | Ropuch | Good, I guess ;-) |
07:34 | I'm starting to dislike mondays | |
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07:37 | kf | I already do |
07:38 | Ropuch | I'm struggling :) |
07:39 | Graphic card on my work computer finaly gave up, it's good to have some spare private linux box around from times when i was testing koha | |
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09:49 | kaushik | what is the best partitioning scheme for koha |
09:52 | in linux | |
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10:26 | Amit | heya kaushik |
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11:03 | ricardo | Hi everyone |
11:04 | hdl: Are you there? | |
11:11 | kf | hi ricardo |
11:12 | ricardo | kf: Hi :) |
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11:36 | knop3x | hi! someone there? |
11:37 | I have a quite simple question: | |
11:37 | Is the koha staff client and OPAC already available in russian and/or ukrainian? | |
11:39 | I don't find any information on the koha-site except this: http://koha.org/documentation/[…]lable%20languages | |
11:39 | And that doesn't help... ;-) | |
11:45 | ricardo | knop3x: Hi |
11:46 | knop3x: I believe it is... | |
11:46 | http://translate.koha.org/ru/ | |
11:46 | http://translate.koha.org/uk/ | |
11:48 | http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]a85c5dd0;hb=3.0.x | |
11:48 | http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]6abfeb75;hb=3.0.x | |
11:48 | knop3x: So, given the above 4 URLs, I would say that yes, there's indeed a Russian and an Ukrainian translation :) | |
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11:55 | CGI750 | issue problem |
11:55 | borrower will leave soon | |
11:56 | how do i solve it | |
11:56 | version 2.2..9 | |
11:56 | kf | what is your problem? |
11:56 | CGI750 | how to sepecify duedate for borrowers |
11:57 | i am not able to isssue books after upgrading to 2.2.9 | |
11:57 | kf | you want to check out with a due_date different to stanard? |
11:57 | I dont know Koha before 3.0.0 | |
11:57 | CGI750 | when i am trying to issue , i get a red message error , borrower due date expired |
11:57 | kf | oh |
11:58 | perhaps the borrower is the problem | |
11:58 | CGI750 | any idea |
11:58 | any idea ?? | |
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11:58 | kf | check his expiration date |
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11:59 | CGI170 | not able to issue books |
11:59 | pls help | |
12:00 | kf | check the expiration date of the user |
12:00 | CGI170 | i am getting error borrower will be leaving soon |
12:01 | Is there is a global option for setting the due date | |
12:01 | kf | I dont know 2.2.9 but normally due date is determined by loan rules |
12:02 | CGI170 | in my loan rules i have onle fine parameter |
12:02 | kf | no loan period? |
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12:09 | knop3x | Hey! Thnaks for the above! |
12:11 | But it doesn't seem like a "ripe" translation if 50% are fuzzy... | |
12:14 | and: Is there a how-to for people about no idea about anything? ;-) | |
12:15 | kf | knop3x: translation or koha in general? |
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12:16 | hdl | ricardo: I am here |
12:28 | knop3x | kf: i meant koha in general, but that should include the translation... |
12:28 | i think also a "sketch" could helpü... | |
12:28 | i mean, what is koha? it runs only on a server, right? | |
12:28 | and you can acces it with a staff client? | |
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12:39 | kf | knop3x: its web based, you can access staff interface via port 8080 |
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12:45 | kf | knop3x: perhaps start with the koha manual on koha.org |
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12:58 | chris_n | g'morning |
12:59 | jwagner | good morning chris_n |
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13:11 | kf | good morning jagner, chris_n |
13:12 | chris_n | howdy kf |
13:12 | jwagner | good morning kf |
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13:12 | Nate | morning #koha! |
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13:22 | chris_n | hello owen, Nate |
13:22 | owen | Hi |
13:54 | ricardo | hdl: Sorry. I went for lunch and forgot to change my nick to "ricardo_away". Are you still here? |
13:54 | hdl | yes |
13:55 | ricardo | hdl: Cool :) I'm in the process of finishing the translation for the Portuguese Staff PO file, but it may take 1 or 2 days to conclude it. When do you want /plan to release 3.0.5 (so that I can try to get this updated translation for 3.0.5)? |
13:56 | hdl | mmmm... should be next week. |
13:57 | ricardo | hdl: That's great. That should give me plenty of time to finish and test the translation. I'll "pretty sure" that I'll have it ready during this week |
13:57 | s/I'll/I'm | |
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14:43 | knop3x | thanks again. Will certainly do (doing already). Cu |
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15:22 | Jpr | hi all, I'm in the midst of customizing the front page of our Opac and I've hit a snag that I'm at a loss as to how to resolve. |
15:22 | owen | You've come to the right place Jpr |
15:23 | Jpr | owen: in fact, I've been using a number of articles from your blog |
15:24 | so, here's my question; | |
15:24 | hdl | hi gmcharlt |
15:25 | Jpr | I used your CSS for enlittling the login box, and now I've gotten around to editing the mainuserblock. |
15:25 | The problem is, the yui-u grid in which the login block is located still makes a bunch of white space where I'd like to be able to put other things | |
15:25 | owen | Yeah, your options are very limited there. |
15:26 | Jpr | I'd tried with some CSS, but it doesn't seem to have any effect on the yui-u |
15:26 | and given that it continues to 'contain' the login box... | |
15:28 | so, when you say that my options are 'limited' just how limited are they? | |
15:28 | owen | There is no built-in way to put content in the right column. |
15:28 | It would be possible to write content to that area using jquery | |
15:29 | But the glitch with that option is that the right-hand column will disappear when the user is logged in | |
15:29 | Your javascript would have to take that into account somehow. | |
15:29 | And of course you've got the problem of excluding non-js users | |
15:30 | Jpr | at least for the moment that wouldn't be a problem, since the OPAC's only available on our internal network |
15:31 | owen | I've filed a bug for this issue already: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3708 |
15:31 | munin | 04Bug 3708: enhancement, P5, ---, jmfliblime.com, NEW, Add another customizable region to the OPAC: right sidebar |
15:34 | Jpr | and it isn't possible to reposition or otherwise tweak the CSS of that yui-u block so that it would at least reduce the white-space, thus giving more space to the mainuserblock? |
15:35 | or change which type of yui grid is involved? | |
15:35 | owen | It's possible, I haven't tried it before. |
15:38 | Jpr | alright, thanks for your help! |
15:38 | owen | Jpr: I'm not sure you're going to be able to get specific enough with the CSS to be able to target just the home page |
15:39 | Jpr | ah, that same yui-u class might be used elsewhere? |
15:39 | owen | Yes, it might be. I can't recall offhand |
15:40 | It's one of the basic building blocks of a YUI grid layout | |
15:40 | Okay, yes, for instance, the advanced search page | |
15:41 | Oh, and opac-detail as well. So you've got to be sure you're targeting just the home page. Unfortunately, that page isn't identified by a unique <body> id like some pages are | |
15:41 | Jpr | hmm, so css is no way to go |
15:41 | owen | (that's a good candidate for a bug) |
15:42 | Jpr | I may just have to get used to that white space, at least for the time being |
15:49 | the tag <div id="doc3" class="yui-t1"> isn't page specific either? | |
15:50 | owen | No |
15:54 | Jpr | Owen, thank you again for your help and your time; I do appreciate it. I'm gonna get down to work, either learning like that white-space or taking advantage of it with jquery. Thanks again! |
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16:04 | Ropuch | Hello |
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16:16 | kf | ok, time to go home - bye #koha :) |
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16:25 | jdavidb | @quote random |
16:25 | munin | jdavidb: Quote #18: "<pianohacker> nitpicking synergy FTW" (added by gmcharlt at 01:35 PM, July 24, 2009) |
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17:28 | chris_n | it's entirely too quite in here |
17:29 | * chris_n | bangs a few virtual pans for effect |
17:30 | * sekjal | puts on his librarian hat, and shushes chris_n |
17:31 | jwagner | But I thought libraries were beyond the "hush" stereotype??? |
17:32 | sekjal | only in learning commons (and related locations) |
17:39 | rhcl | Today is the 5 year anniversary of the Firefox 1.0 release. Cheers~~~ |
17:39 | jwagner | Well, I'm going to go bang a few virtual pans and get some lunch, anyway! |
17:40 | rhcl | I always prefer real food lunches to virtual lunches. |
17:42 | * chris_n | heads out to real lunch as well |
17:44 | * paul_p | heads out to real dinner soon ;-) |
17:44 | paul_p | hello everybody |
17:47 | chris | morning |
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18:04 | jwagner | chris, aren't you up awfully early? |
18:05 | chris | 7am |
18:06 | jwagner | Huh, guess I have my time zones mixed up again. Good morning, anyway :-) |
18:07 | chris | well daylight savings here has started, and its finished there, so its 2 hours different than it was a month ago |
18:07 | jwagner | OK, that makes sense. I wondered why I was off that much..... |
18:29 | chris | right, kahu eating breakfast and a coffee for me, time for some email before the bus |
18:33 | * paul_p | didn't send any email to chris, but send some IRC 'morning though. |
18:34 | chris | :) |
18:34 | got some italian translation updates | |
18:34 | and some replies from venues for kohacon | |
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18:37 | pianohacker | good morning #koha |
18:38 | chris | hiya pianohacker |
18:38 | pianohacker | hey chris, how's your tuesday going? |
18:38 | chris | can you do me a flavour, and email me through the url of your patches |
18:39 | * chris | uses his inbox as a todo stack |
18:39 | pianohacker | ahh, gotcha |
18:42 | chris | thanks |
18:47 | ok time to go to work | |
18:48 | pianohacker | see ya |
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19:10 | wizzyrea_mobile | Hi peps |
19:11 | Ropuch | Hi wizzyrea_mobile |
19:11 | wizzyrea_mobile | How is everybody today? |
19:12 | jdavidb | Doing good, wizzyrea_mobile..you? |
19:12 | pianohacker | hi, wizzyrea_mobile |
19:12 | wizzyrea_mobile | At a conference actually, it's ok |
19:13 | Hey ph :) | |
19:15 | Brb | |
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19:35 | chris_n | wb gmcharlt :-) |
19:35 | gmcharlt | silly laptop wanted a reboot suddenly |
19:36 | chris | back |
19:36 | pianohacker | hello again :) |
19:37 | * ricardo | is running Koha's "make test" so takes the time to go get himself a coffee ;-) |
19:38 | pianohacker | ricardo: You can be the testsuite stress tester for 3.4 |
19:41 | chris | thanks for the email pianohacker |
19:41 | pianohacker | np |
19:42 | Feel free to bug me if the merge conflicts get out of hand, I know more about that quirky js than I'd care to | |
19:42 | chris | will do |
19:43 | chris_n | hi chris, pianohacker |
19:43 | pianohacker | hi, chris_n |
19:43 | what are you up to? | |
19:44 | chris_n | ahh... working to finish up the layout editor for the patron card creator |
19:45 | its a wonderful exercise in text based graphics arts layout and design :-P | |
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19:45 | chris_n | a major step forward for koha and a major step backwards for the graphics art industry. ;-) |
19:51 | chris | these are gonna be a little tricky, old patches, me checks out a version of koha from around july last year |
19:51 | * ricardo | is back from his coffee... but "make test" hasn't finished yet :( |
19:57 | * chris_n | wonders about a 'make test' for coffee |
20:08 | * ricardo | is now running "make install" |
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20:25 | chris | pianohacker: http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]fs/heads/ajaxcirc |
20:26 | 2 patches down, not a lot of changes yet | |
20:26 | pianohacker | cool! |
20:26 | chris | lots have been done by more recent patches |
20:26 | so some conflicts, but easy enough to resolve | |
20:27 | on to number 3 | |
20:27 | * pianohacker | adds disclaimer that the code is more than a year old, and takes no responsibility for its quality |
20:27 | chris | yeah i figure we can play with the ajaxcirc branch a bit |
20:27 | and tidy it up | |
20:27 | pianohacker | Yup |
20:30 | chris | what i did was branch from july 21 2008, apply patches there |
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20:30 | chris | then cherry-pick into ajaxcirc and fix conflicts |
20:40 | 3 down | |
20:40 | ill do some more at lunch | |
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21:41 | ricardo | chris: I think I may be being bit by the "pt-BR mistaken as regular PT" bug... Would it be possible, when I send it to you the pt-PT updated STAFF file to copy it also for pt-BR (that might mitigate / solve the bug) |
21:42 | chris | yep |
21:42 | i thought you had solved the bug by fixing the db? | |
21:43 | ricardo | chris: I thought so too. And it did solve in one or two setups (two, I think... It's not solving it for the 3rd one, though... Must I run manually ./install-code.pl pt-BR (after updating the database), so I get there the missing "includes" files? |
21:43 | chris | umm only if you want pt-BR |
21:44 | id just remove the pt-BR templates | |
21:45 | ricardo | chris: No, I don't want it ... I think it's also related to the fact that, in Firefox, there's no "pt-PT"... only "pt" and "pt-BR"... Maybe Koha's detection of "installed browser languages" is picking pt-BR by mistake? Dunno... |
21:45 | chris: But would that solve the problem for other people, as well? | |
21:46 | chris | well if it pt-BR is there, then it will pick it up, what happens if you remove those templates? |
21:46 | id prefer to not overwrite the BR ones, unless the brazilians ask for that | |
21:49 | ricardo | chris: Well, for the "staff" PO file, I believe they wouldn't mind considering they only have 1% translated :) |
21:51 | Yep, this solved the bug: | |
21:51 | myhost:/usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog # mv pt-BR _pt_br_old | |
21:52 | chris | cool, so yep looks like the C4::Language module has a bug |
21:52 | ricardo | So, Koha is "picking" pt-BR by mistake... Like I said, maybe it's related to Koha's detection of what languages the user has set up in the Browser ("content negotiation")? |
21:52 | chris: Right | |
21:52 | chris: Oh, boy... I tried to debug the "C4::Language" before (for this bug)... and it isn't pretty :-/ | |
21:53 | chris | yeah, its on my list to rewrite too |
21:53 | overly complicated | |
21:56 | ricardo | chris: True! |
21:58 | Well... It's past my time to go home. I wanted to do this, because I wanted to demo Koha for some people that come tomorrow, and I didn't want to show them this: | |
21:58 | Look of the Staff client of Koha 3.0.3 (and 3.0.4) when there is a pt-BR folder | |
21:58 | chris | yeah |
21:58 | ricardo | http://www.twitpic.com/lnjb7 |
21:58 | (watch the screenshot, if you haven't done it before ^^^ :-/ | |
21:58 | chris | i think the safest is just remove those templates for now |
21:59 | ricardo | chris: Yeah, probably |
21:59 | chris: Can you take care of that for 3.0.5 ? | |
21:59 | chris | i think we will just not include pt-BR for 3.0.5 |
22:00 | since i wont have tiem to fix C4::Languages before then | |
22:00 | ricardo | chris: That's fine by me! :) (at least for the staff client, I don't think the OPAC has the same problem) |
22:00 | chris: understood | |
22:00 | chris | pianohacker: you about? |
22:01 | http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]fs/heads/ajaxcirc | |
22:01 | all merged, no idea if it works yet though :) | |
22:01 | ok, back to work work i go | |
22:02 | pianohacker | chris: that was an impressively fast merge; do you have a git:// url? |
22:04 | chris | yep |
22:04 | git://git.catalyst.net.nz/koha.git | |
22:04 | or http:// | |
22:06 | ricardo | chris: Gotta go now... Thanks and take care! :) |
22:07 | chris | cya later ricardo |
22:07 | ricardo | chris: Bye :) |
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22:18 | pianohacker | chris: code pulled, found some bugs (first was old issued_itemtypes_count_loop, now excised from circulation.pl, second will be getting rid of unclosed TMPL_ that causes an incomplete checkout page) |
22:19 | chris | ahh right |
22:19 | if you get a chance, could you fire some patches at me for those? | |
22:20 | pianohacker | will probably be later, took a quick look then had to get back to school, but I can send you patches or a pull-request from my github, whichever works better |
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22:22 | chris | either is fine :) |
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