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| 00:34 | chris | http://www.biblibre.com/conten[…]iblibre-and-floss |
| 00:36 | brendan joined #koha | |
| 00:37 | chris | i love this |
| 00:37 | "There's a poll that will be open through Sunday (25/10) for all to vote on. We've prepared the paperwork to transfer the assets we have, at no charge whatsoever, to the entity selected by the community to receive them - next week. And we ask LibLime to do the same - next week." | |
| 00:40 | Jo | what a great post! |
| 00:40 | well done Biblibre | |
| 00:41 | (printing it out to give to the trustees .... its a damn fine summary of the current situation) | |
| 00:41 | chris | yep it is good, you saw bywater's also? |
| 00:41 | that is worth them reading too | |
| 00:41 | http://bywatersolutions.com/wordpress/?p=55 | |
| 00:43 | Jo | oh thanks for that. |
| 00:48 | kieran-lunch is now known as kieran | |
| 00:50 | kieran is now known as kieran-away | |
| 00:51 | chris | hmm |
| 00:51 | brendan: you about? | |
| 00:51 | brendan | yes |
| 00:51 | just back now | |
| 00:51 | chris | if you see nicomo, i just noticed the links on http://www.biblibre.com/conten[…]iblibre-and-floss appear to be broken |
| 00:52 | other than that, its a great writeup | |
| 00:53 | brendan | cool - will do |
| 00:53 | chris | ta |
| 00:53 | brendan | I see him tomorrow night |
| 00:53 | chris | i pinged him on twitter |
| 00:53 | brendan | would be nice if munin was around |
| 00:53 | chris | *nod* |
| 00:53 | brendan | hint hint gmcharlt |
| 00:53 | chris | hehe, he's working on it |
| 01:06 | Jo | who wants to help me understand this page: http://opensource.web2learning[…]ser.php?sid=88794 |
| 01:06 | is this saying that hLT is emerging as the preferred choice for short term. | |
| 01:06 | and not for the long term? | |
| 01:07 | becuase there appear top be so many pie charts saying contradicting things. | |
| 01:07 | (shocking spelling - sorry I am not usually so illiterate :) | |
| 01:07 | chris | yeah you have it right |
| 01:07 | there are 2 questions | |
| 01:07 | and then a pie graph for each rank | |
| 01:08 | so hlt is preferred in rank 1 for shorterm | |
| 01:08 | Nate left #koha | |
| 01:08 | chris | and a new foundation is preferred for longterm |
| 01:09 | Jo | phew - great. thanks :) |
| 01:11 | chris | :) |
| 01:21 | kieran-away is now known as kieran | |
| 01:58 | * chris_n2 | wonders if John is paying attention |
| 02:03 | chris_n2 | biblibre++ |
| 02:11 | chris | John? |
| 02:14 | ahh yeah | |
| 02:14 | i wondered that too | |
| 02:39 | * chris | repsonds to a comment on the biblibre blog |
| 02:39 | chris | http://www.biblibre.com/conten[…]nd-floss#comments |
| 02:39 | chris_n2 | *groan* |
| 02:39 | why do I torture myself? | |
| 02:39 | chris | hehe |
| 02:40 | it would be nice if people would inform themselves before tendering public opinions tho | |
| 02:40 | chris_n2 | chris++ |
| 02:40 | uninformed-comments-- | |
| 02:41 | win32-- | |
| 02:41 | chris | hehe |
| 02:41 | still fighting the makefile? | |
| 02:41 | chris_n2 | yeah |
| 02:41 | now it makes even less sense | |
| 02:41 | I ran dmake in verbose mode on another makefile and things work fine | |
| 02:42 | but on the koha makefile it borks on a line that looks identical to one that works in the other makefile | |
| 02:42 | :-P | |
| 02:42 | chris | weird |
| 02:44 | pastebot | "chris_n" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "Makefile Woes" (23 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/24 |
| 02:44 | chris_n2 | there... am I crazy or what? |
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| 02:45 | chris | that is weird |
| 02:45 | there isnt some hidden weird character or something? | |
| 02:45 | ahh | |
| 02:45 | could it be | |
| 02:46 | -- | |
| 02:46 | -e "mkpath" blib\lib | |
| 02:46 | vs | |
| 02:46 | chris_n2 | actually, they were in there and it still borked |
| 02:46 | so I removed them on a whim | |
| 02:46 | chris | hmm |
| 02:46 | thats mental | |
| 02:47 | that looks like it should work | |
| 02:47 | chris_n2 | very |
| 02:48 | it must be a very subtle syntax error | |
| 02:48 | chris | *nod8 |
| 02:49 | chris_n2 | furthermore, if we run 'C:\strawberry\perl\bin\perl.exe -MExtUtils::Command -e "mkpath" -- blib\lib' from the cli.... it works of all things! |
| 02:49 | chris | gah |
| 02:49 | * chris_n2 | runs from the room stark raving mad :-| |
| 02:49 | joetho left #koha | |
| 02:50 | chris_n2 | maybe I begin to see why M$ has to charge so much for it's produces |
| 02:50 | products also | |
| 02:50 | chris | hehe |
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| 03:02 | kieran is now known as kieran-bbiab | |
| 03:05 | drupsta | Nothing going on here? |
| 03:07 | chris | not much this time of the day |
| 03:07 | richard | nearly home time :) |
| 03:08 | drupsta | oh i see |
| 03:15 | * chris_n2 | delves deeper into the depths of dmake |
| 03:16 | kieran-bbiab is now known as kieran | |
| 03:17 | chris_n2 | I wonder if it could be as simple as the difference between unix eol and dos eol |
| 03:18 | chris | \r instead of \n |
| 03:18 | could be | |
| 03:20 | chris_n2 | actually it can't be... Class::Accessor 's makefile works fine |
| 03:30 | I think it is choking on line lengths | |
| 03:30 | chris | ah |
| 03:30 | chris_n2 | PM_TO_BLIB in koha makefile is >300000 and <3000000 chars |
| 03:30 | the same in the class::accessor is <200 | |
| 03:30 | chris | ahhh |
| 03:31 | i wonder what we can do about that | |
| 03:32 | chris_n2 | I found a reference to an error 255 in cygwin which relates to a "The maximum length of this string is 32K characters." limitation of win23 cli "stuff" |
| 03:33 | error 255 is what is actually being returned by perl/EU::C | |
| 03:33 | I'm not sure | |
| 03:33 | I have asked over on the perl/#win23 channel | |
| 03:39 | our line is nearly 500000 chars... ouch | |
| 03:39 | chris | ahhhhh |
| 03:39 | chris_n2 | well, we'll see what the win32 gurus say |
| 03:39 | chris | yeah we need to fix that |
| 03:40 | chris_n2 | in *nix you just add a '\' to the end of each line and keep going |
| 03:40 | I don't think it works that way in dos | |
| 03:40 | chris | yeah |
| 03:40 | * chris_n2 | tries to dust off his very ancient ms-dos knowledge |
| 03:41 | chris_n2 | it is back there very near his cpm knowledge |
| 03:41 | chris | heh |
| 03:41 | chris_n2 | which resides next to my TI-BUG Monitor (aka machine code) knowledge :-? |
| 03:42 | :-/ even | |
| 03:44 | quote: "For MS-DOS, OS/2 & Win95 there is a rather severe restriction on the length of a shell line with the result that the shell line is often too short for many compilers and far too short for linkers and librarians." | |
| 03:45 | chris | ah ha |
| 03:47 | chris_n2 | known possible problem with dmake: "Linux-dmd doesn't seem to support a response file, so currently all filenames are passed to dmd on the command line. So there is a practical limit to the number of files in the application depending on their accumulated path lengths (maybe 100-200 files). But before someone gets near that limit, the problem will have been solved." |
| 03:48 | a response file is the solution, but dmake does not seem to support this | |
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| 04:03 | chris_n2 | any reason we don't use Module::Build for our installer? |
| 04:12 | its way too late... off to sleep... | |
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| 04:20 | richard left #koha | |
| 04:39 | chris_n2 | ok, the guy who manages the Strawberry perl project is going to have a go at installing Koha on strawberry to see if he can figure how to fix the makefile |
| 04:40 | off to sleep for real this time | |
| 05:35 | drupsta left #koha | |
| 05:51 | mason | im planning to have a go at setting up a osx-10.4 koha3 for my next 'fun' project.. |
| 05:51 | i had a go 1.5 years ago, when i was new to osx, and gave up | |
| 05:52 | but i think im up for the challenge again | |
| 05:53 | both macports, and fink package versions look to be quite current | |
| 05:54 | i think i can sort out a debian-ish MAMP enviroment on my mac | |
| 06:11 | Ropuch | Morning, #koha |
| 06:11 | brendan | hi Ropuch |
| 06:11 | good luck Mason | |
| 06:12 | mason | im feeling lucky.. |
| 06:13 | Ropuch | Hi brendan, mason |
| 06:36 | brendan | night |
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| 06:43 | |Lupin| | hello all |
| 06:50 | Ropuch | Hi |Lupin| |
| 06:54 | |Lupin| | hello Ropuch |
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| 07:14 | |Lupin| | hello paul_p ! |
| 07:14 | paul_p | hello |Lupin| |
| 07:18 | thd | chris: are you there? |
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| 07:18 | chris | yep |
| 07:18 | thd | chris: has anyone at Catalyst used AsciiDoc? |
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| 07:19 | chris | nope |
| 07:20 | thd | chris: what does Catalyst use for documentation? |
| 07:20 | chris | latex |
| 07:20 | |Lupin| | thd: are you asking because of Koha's manual and the possibility to have it done in AsciiDoc which was discussed on Koha-devel ? |
| 07:20 | latex++ | |
| 07:20 | thd | |Lupin| yes |
| 07:20 | chris | i really dont mind what its done in as long as nicole is happy |
| 07:20 | and it can be easily converted | |
| 07:21 | thd | exactly that is what I told nengard |
| 07:21 | * |Lupin| | finds docbook really cumbersome... |
| 07:21 | chris | i dont mind docbook, but then i just edit it with a text editor |
| 07:21 | thd | I actually have used LaTeX but LaTeX can inhibit other contributors |
| 07:22 | |Lupin| | thd: I'd have said the same about docbook...personnally I find docbook much worse than LaTeX, but I guess that's more a matter of tastes... |
| 07:22 | thd | DocBook is a good path to LaTeX for fine tuning |
| 07:22 | chris | but i dont plan to edit the docs |
| 07:22 | so i dont really have an opinion | |
| 07:23 | i suspect ppl will give nicole docs in random formats and she will convert them to something useful, thats what stephen hedges used to dp | |
| 07:23 | thd | chris: what was shedges using for kohadocs? |
| 07:23 | chris | docbook |
| 07:24 | mainly cos you can go from docbook to anything | |
| 07:24 | thd | chris: He also used something else |
| 07:24 | I know that he had some custom Perl scripts | |
| 07:25 | chris | there are tons of perl modules that work with docbook, but like i say, i dont actually care |
| 07:27 | thd | chris: Well I told nengard it should really be a personal choice as she would be doing the work. |
| 07:28 | chris | yep |
| 07:28 | thd | chris: she did reply that she wanted others to be able to contribute, so she has the right principle in mind for a community effort |
| 07:29 | chris | yep, altho i think she overestimates how much other people will contribute, people always mean too, but not many often do follow through |
| 07:30 | thd | chris: the lightweight markup languages like AsciiDoc were written for programmers who would never write any documentation if they had to bother about the formatting excessively. |
| 07:31 | chris | its not the formatting that stops me :) |
| 07:31 | thd | chris: we also have fewer votes in the foundation poll than last time |
| 07:31 | chris | still a few days to go |
| 07:32 | thd | we need a reminder to people |
| 07:32 | chris | yep, you could send a mail to the lists |
| 07:32 | thd | yes I will |
| 07:34 | |Lupin| | chris: btw, I'm looking for someone with list master priviledge on koha lists... do you by chnce have these priviledges ? |
| 07:34 | chris | on the main list yes, not on the @lists.koha.org ones tho |
| 07:43 | |Lupin| | chris: the mainlist ? |
| 07:43 | chris: which one is that ? | |
| 07:44 | juan-xercode left #koha | |
| 07:44 | chris | kohalists.katipo.co.nz |
| 07:44 | the main koha users list | |
| 07:44 | |Lupin| | ok |
| 07:45 | chris: this is preisely the one with which I have a problem | |
| 07:45 | chris | whats the problem? |
| 07:45 | |Lupin| | chris: I think I should be subscribed to it but didn't get anymessage from it for... a very long time. |
| 07:45 | chris | message me the email address you think you are subscribe with and i will check |
| 07:45 | |Lupin| | chris: subscripton address was Sebastien.Hinderersnv.jussieu.fr |
| 07:46 | chris: oops, sorry | |
| 07:46 | chris | ahh thats ok |
| 07:46 | just it ends up in the bot :) | |
| 07:47 | |Lupin| | in the bot or in the logs ? |
| 07:47 | chris | the logs |
| 07:47 | ok you were set to nomail | |
| 07:48 | |Lupin| | chris: ah I tried to restore that to normal but it didn't really work |
| 07:48 | chris | should be back to normal now |
| 07:48 | |Lupin| | chris: thanks a lot |
| 07:54 | is it still true that XSLT customizatons of OPAC work for MARC21 only ? | |
| 07:55 | chris | not in master |
| 07:55 | there is a unimarc XSLT file now | |
| 07:56 | |Lupin| | chris: great ! which file is it, please ? |
| 07:56 | chris | http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]tmpl/prog/en/xslt |
| 07:57 | |Lupin| | chris: thanks ! |
| 07:58 | chris | no problem |
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| 08:01 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 08:03 | |Lupin| | chris: I'm interested in that because in our digital library we have two types of file formats: those which are stored on the file server and those which are automatically produced on-demand. |
| 08:03 | chris | hiya kf |
| 08:04 | |Lupin| | chris: so I was wondering whether those formats that are generated dynamically should be catalogued or if the list shold be computed dynamically when needed, and I was suggested to do that in the xslt... |
| 08:04 | guten tag kf | |
| 08:05 | kf | hi chris and |Lupin| |
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| 08:18 | reiko | hi! |
| 08:29 | Ropuch | Hi |
| 08:31 | |Lupin| | chris: ? |
| 08:47 | chris | yep |
| 08:50 | |Lupin| | chris: just wondering what you think about the previously mentionned question... |
| 08:52 | chris | hmm dont really have an opinion |
| 08:53 | |Lupin| | chris: oodoki, thanks |
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| 09:21 | reiko | hi again chris |
| 09:28 | chris_n , are you and chris the same ? | |
| 09:28 | chris | no |
| 09:29 | reiko | ahh |
| 09:29 | sorry | |
| 09:29 | chris | thats ok :) chris_n is chris nighswonger |
| 09:29 | im chris cormack | |
| 09:30 | reiko | ah, okay |
| 09:30 | can i ask a question ?~ | |
| 09:33 | i've been here last tuesday and chris_n helped me getting rid of the 109 error zebra was giving me. rebuild_zebra.pl filled the var/lib/zebradb directories but neither zebra or manual scan on yaz-client return records, its like the database is empy :\ | |
| 09:36 | chris | and zebrasrv is definitely running? |
| 09:37 | is there anything the log when you do a search? | |
| 09:37 | |Lupin| | for freshly bulkmarcimported records, is it enough to remove them from the biblios and biblioitems tables to delete them from Koha completely, pls ? |
| 09:38 | reiko | chris yes is running, the logs says: |
| 09:38 | mason | in koha3 , yes i think, lupin |
| 09:38 | reiko | 09:31:11-22/10 zebrasrv-2.0(1) [session] Session - OK 1 unix:/var/run/koha/zebradb/bibliosocket 16259 |
| 09:38 | 09:31:11-22/10 zebrasrv-2.0(1) [request] Auth idPass biblio - | |
| 09:38 | 09:31:11-22/10 zebrasrv-2.0(1) [request] Init OK - ID:81 Name:ZOOM-C/YAZ Version:3.0.44 d1c53252793e37efda0b7432b18a7c79b9810d86 | |
| 09:38 | mason | yoda me talks... |
| 09:38 | reiko | 09:31:11-22/10 zebrasrv-2.0(1) [log] dict_lookup_grep: (\x01%)((a|\xC3\xA1|\xC3\xA0|\xC3\xA3|\xC3\xA5|\xC3\xA2|\xC4\x83|\xC4\x85|\xC8\xA7|\xC7\x8E|\xC8\x81|\xC8\x83)) |
| 09:39 | 09:31:11-22/10 zebrasrv-2.0(1) [log] dict_lookup_grep: (\x01))((a|\xC3\xA1|\xC3\xA0|\xC3\xA3|\xC3\xA5|\xC3\xA2|\xC4\x83|\xC4\x85|\xC8\xA7|\xC7\x8E|\xC8\x81|\xC8\x83)) | |
| 09:39 | 09:31:11-22/10 zebrasrv-2.0(1) [log] dict_lookup_grep: (\x01')((a|\xC3\xA1|\xC3\xA0|\xC3\xA3|\xC3\xA5|\xC3\xA2|\xC4\x83|\xC4\x85|\xC8\xA7|\xC7\x8E|\xC8\x81|\xC8\x83)) | |
| 09:39 | 09:31:11-22/10 zebrasrv-2.0(1) [log] dict_lookup_grep: (\x01\x0D)((a|\xC3\xA1|\xC3\xA0|\xC3\xA3|\xC3\xA5|\xC3\xA2|\xC4\x83|\xC4\x85|\xC8\xA7|\xC7\x8E|\xC8\x81|\xC8\x83)) | |
| 09:39 | 09:31:11-22/10 zebrasrv-2.0(1) [log] dict_lookup_grep: (\x01\x0D)((a|\xC3\xA1|\xC3\xA0|\xC3\xA3|\xC3\xA5|\xC3\xA2|\xC4\x83|\xC4\x85|\xC8\xA7|\xC7\x8E|\xC8\x81|\xC8\x83).*) | |
| 09:39 | 09:31:11-22/10 zebrasrv-2.0(1) [log] dict_lookup_grep: (\x01\x0D)((a|\xC3\xA1|\xC3\xA0|\xC3\xA3|\xC3\xA5|\xC3\xA2|\xC4\x83|\xC4\x85|\xC8\xA7|\xC7\x8E|\xC8\x81|\xC8\x83)) | |
| 09:39 | 09:31:11-22/10 zebrasrv-2.0(1) [request] Search biblios OK 0 1 1+0 RPN @attrset Bib-1 @or @or @or @or @or @attr 1=36 @attr 4=1 @attr 6=3 @attr 9=32 @attr 2=102 a @attr 1=4 @attr 4=1 @attr 6=3 @attr 9=28 @attr 2=102 a @attr 1=4 @attr 4=1 @attr 9=26 @attr 2=102 a @attr 4=6 @attr 5=103 @attr 9=16 @attr 2=102 a @attr 4=6 @attr 5=1 @attr 9=14 @attr 2=102 "a " @attr 4=6 @attr 9=14 @attr 2=102 a | |
| 09:39 | 09:31:11-22/10 zebrasrv-2.0(1) [session] Connection closed by client | |
| 09:39 | mason | rekio , use yaz-client to debug, first |
| 09:39 | reiko | i did |
| 09:39 | i connected to zebra to biblios | |
| 09:40 | and tried to find and got no results | |
| 09:40 | mason | was yr zebra index successfull? |
| 09:40 | reiko | i'm not sure how to check that |
| 09:40 | i'm using rebuild_zebra.pl | |
| 09:40 | to do so | |
| 09:40 | mason | check zebra index file sizes, befire and after indexing... |
| 09:41 | reiko | are these the files in var/lib/koha/zebradb/biblios ? |
| 09:41 | mason | yep, probably.... |
| 09:41 | reiko | well, lots of files there |
| 09:41 | mason | dpends on yr install selections ,, |
| 09:41 | reiko | the folder zebradb as 9Mb aprox. |
| 09:42 | |Lupin| | thanks mason |
| 09:43 | mason | pastebin your zeb-index output |
| 09:43 | reiko | thats the aprt when the rebuild_Zebra says re-indexing ? |
| 09:43 | *part | |
| 09:44 | mason | yep |
| 09:44 | reiko | its still exporting now |
| 09:44 | long exporting, does it mean anything ? | |
| 09:44 | 100k .. and beyond | |
| 09:47 | 10:44:51-22/10 zebraidx(16755) [log] dir /tmp/SjXkJEcBh4/biblio | |
| 09:47 | 10:44:51-22/10 zebraidx(16755) [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number) | |
| 09:47 | 10:44:51-22/10 zebraidx(16755) [log] error grs.marcxml.record /tmp/SjXkJEcBh4/biblio/exported_records 0 | |
| 09:47 | 10:44:51-22/10 zebraidx(16755) [log] Iterations: isam/dict 97/27 | |
| 09:47 | 10:44:51-22/10 zebraidx(16755) [log] Dict: inserts/updates/deletions: 27/0/0 | |
| 09:47 | 10:44:51-22/10 zebraidx(16755) [log] Records: 0 i/u/d 0/0/0 | |
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| 09:49 | mason | thats a FAIL ;) |
| 09:49 | reiko | yeah |
| 09:49 | i can see that now :\ | |
| 09:49 | mason | http://koha.pastebin.com/m45136a0 |
| 09:49 | thats a successfull rebuild_zeb.pl ... | |
| 09:50 | ok, you have some errors in your zebra config files , i think. | |
| 09:50 | reiko | hmm |
| 09:50 | mason | [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number) |
| 09:51 | or your marc records are very small, or incorrect, null data etc..... | |
| 09:51 | are your marc-records correct?.... | |
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| 09:51 | mason | garbage in / garbage out etc.. |
| 09:51 | reiko | you mean in the database ? |
| 09:52 | i've converted a database from 2.2.8 to 3.0 | |
| 09:52 | mason | no, what you have just imported into your koha using 'bulmkmarcimport.pl' |
| 09:52 | reiko | and it may not be correct |
| 09:52 | mason | aaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 09:52 | heh | |
| 09:52 | reiko | i've ran some scripts |
| 09:52 | to 'migrate' | |
| 09:53 | mason | gotcha |
| 09:53 | reiko | but maybe they weren't enough |
| 09:54 | mason | well, its been a year since ive done a koha 2.2 -> 3.0 :/ |
| 09:54 | reiko | hmm |
| 09:55 | mason | and i dont have a working setup to step-thru the process again |
| 09:56 | and ive recently got home from work, and its 11pm! :) | |
| 09:56 | reiko | oh, ok. |
| 09:56 | do you recommend any documents i could read ? | |
| 09:58 | mason | i can only this one ... |
| 09:58 | http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=22_to_30&s[]=migration | |
| 09:58 | reiko | thank you, but that is the one i've been following all along :\ |
| 09:59 | and some of these scripts he tells me to run give some errors | |
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| 10:00 | mason | yeah- an error in an important part of the script, will give you glitchy bibs :/ |
| 10:02 | have another go ( or 2 ) at the migration, and email the koha-lists with your error output | |
| 10:03 | if you get stuck, someone will help - we just need the error snippet | |
| 10:04 | reiko | sometimes its hard to catch an error during the procedure |
| 10:04 | but ill try, thank you | |
| 10:12 | |Lupin| | rebooting |
| 10:12 | bye | |
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| 10:12 | * chris | goes to bed |
| 10:17 | Ropuch | Yay, I'll be sent to 1-month language course to Germany |
| 10:34 | kf | Ropuch: where are you sent to? :) |
| 11:09 | Ropuch | kf: don't know yet |
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| 11:41 | jdavidb | Good morning, #koha. :) |
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| 12:02 | kf | good morning jdavidb |
| 12:02 | jdavidb | Hi, kf. :D |
| 12:07 | hdl_away | hi |
| 12:08 | fixed 3.0.4 release available on http://koha-fr.org/content/dif[…]-koha-version-304 | |
| 12:08 | @later tell chris fixed 3.0.4 release available on http://koha-fr.org/content/dif[…]-koha-version-304 | |
| 12:11 | jdavidb | hdl_away: There's no munin around to do your bidding. |
| 12:11 | hdl_away | I realized that. |
| 12:11 | Sorry english ppl, | |
| 12:12 | But I had to release on koha-fr.org since I cannot upload any longer to download.koha.org | |
| 12:19 | Ropuch | I don't think this is a problem - thanks, hdl_away [; |
| 12:19 | slef | thanks hdl_away |
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| 12:33 | slef | @later nengard "The server at opensource.web2learning.net is taking too long to respond" |
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| 12:36 | slef | hrm, still no munin |
| 12:36 | must read scrollback before typing ;-) | |
| 12:51 | kf | hm where is munin? hope he is well :) |
| 12:51 | hdl | lost in outerspace |
| 12:59 | kf | poor munin |
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| 13:08 | Ropuch | Bah, I haven't finished unpacking the 6k books we've been given last month and now i have to spent 50k euro till end of the year |
| 13:08 | s/spent/spend | |
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| 13:13 | |Lupin| | hi again |
| 13:14 | jdavidb | Hi |Lupin| ! |
| 13:14 | Ropuch | Hello |Lupin| |
| 13:15 | |Lupin| | hello again Ropuch |
| 13:15 | reiko | hello! |
| 13:15 | |Lupin| | hi jdavidb :) |
| 13:15 | I'm encountering problems with opac... | |
| 13:15 | after having rebooted the system the opac-search does not work anylonger | |
| 13:15 | zebrasrv is running | |
| 13:15 | could somebody help with that, pls ? | |
| 13:16 | hey reiko | |
| 13:16 | reiko | i have a simillar problem |
| 13:16 | but my opac-search never worked yet | |
| 13:17 | Ropuch | Hm |
| 13:18 | reiko | [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in |
| 13:18 | (bib1,Local-number) | |
| 13:18 | |Lupin| | reiko: perhaps an authenticationissue... ? |
| 13:18 | reiko | my problem is that when zebra tries to index over my exported records, h says [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in |
| 13:18 | nah | |
| 13:19 | zebra had some problems with that but i fixed it | |
| 13:19 | but now i have zebra running and the db accessible | |
| 13:19 | but i cant migrate my 2.2.8 database to work with 3.0 | |
| 13:19 | which is the main thing im trying to achieve right now | |
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| 13:25 | Nate | morning Koha |
| 13:28 | schuster | reiko - have you made sure your MARC data is good? using MarcEdit or some other marc tool? How big is your file? or do you just have a sample to work with? |
| 13:28 | reiko | about 75mb |
| 13:28 | and no, i didnt make sure my marc data is good :| | |
| 13:29 | that may be the problem | |
| 13:30 | schuster | can you share it with me? |
| 13:30 | reiko | the 75mb file ? |
| 13:31 | |Lupin| | ok, bbl |
| 13:31 | c u | |
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| 14:00 | schuster | Has anyone else experienced this problem as I noted in the bug?http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3607 |
| 14:05 | hdl | not me |
| 14:06 | but not on production | |
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| 14:08 | schuster | When an item is lost and returned it creates a credit on the account |
| 14:09 | That credit you can't do anything with... Maybe this is a LL issue that community doesn't have? | |
| 14:14 | Hey Brendan! | |
| 14:15 | brendan | good morning schuster |
| 14:15 | jwagner | schuster, are you talking about the replacement cost of the item, that was charged & then taken off if the item is returned? |
| 14:16 | schuster | Question to all you developer types... the items that people are working on did you get them into bugs.koha.org so others know you are working on them? |
| 14:16 | jwagner - yes that is what I am talking about. | |
| 14:16 | If it was paid already and then a credit is created I don't have a way to indicate I gave them the money back. | |
| 14:17 | jwagner | schuster, yes, I've seen that problem. If the patron had paid the replacement cost in the meantime, then returned the book, there's a "credit" in the sense. |
| 14:17 | Sorry, in the sense that the original charge is taken off the account. But it doesn't seem to know or care that it was paid in the meantime. | |
| 14:17 | schuster | Yes but there isn't a drop down to say waive, pay etc... so you have to create a manual invoice to clear the record after you give the person money back. |
| 14:18 | When you run SQL's then the system things the borrower still has this outstanding credit. | |
| 14:18 | things/thinks | |
| 14:18 | jwagner | Yeah, that's a general Koha thing that needs work. Not just a LL site thing :-( |
| 14:18 | schuster | poo... |
| 14:18 | Guess that's why I created the bug! | |
| 14:19 | jwagner | schuster, your question about putting things on bugzilla, I've been trying to put our development stuff up there so people would see it & know we were working on it. There are still several of our items that aren't on the site, some because we're still figuring out what we want to do, and others because I just haven't had the time. But the goal is to make an entry for all our development items. |
| 14:21 | schuster | OK great. I have a couple that I have "sponsored" that I need to make sure get up there as well. |
| 14:22 | jwagner | What we all need are more hours in the day, or clones to do all the work we can't get to :-( |
| 14:25 | schuster | Yep... I'd love a team of free programmers personally not more me's I have enough ideas just need implementers! |
| 14:25 | That's one of the reasons we joined Koha was for the community of programmers! | |
| 14:25 | hee hee... | |
| 14:28 | hmmm I found 3340 and 3312 to be the same? 3340 has more detail so any reason to not close 3312? and reference 3340? | |
| 14:30 | Owen here? | |
| 14:30 | hmmm drat. | |
| 14:31 | Anybody else have this problem? When people send a cart it defaults to the default email as a return. I created a "bug" request for this: | |
| 14:31 | http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3377 | |
| 14:31 | I want the form to ask for their email address in case they want to contact the sender of the cart. | |
| 14:38 | slef | schuster: once we are sure our bug is general, we submit it to bugs.koha.org |
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| 16:30 | schuster | wizzyrea about? |
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| 18:00 | snkahn | Hi, trying to configure a brand new install of 3.004 |
| 18:01 | getting the error 'patron does not exist' when I try to add staff patrons | |
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| 18:54 | * chris | pops in quickly before catching his bus |
| 18:54 | chris | hdl: you around? |
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| 19:01 | * chris | does a blog post pointing to the fixed tarball on koha-fr |
| 19:04 | goes to catch his bus | |
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| 19:09 | hdl | chris hi |
| 19:11 | brendan | man plane delayed 4 fours |
| 19:11 | I don't think I'll have a chance to meet up with nicomo tonight | |
| 19:11 | sekjal | brendan: oh, yuck |
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| 19:41 | chris | back |
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| 19:41 | richard | hi |
| 19:41 | chris | hiya richard |
| 19:41 | richard | hi chris |
| 19:43 | hdl | chris hi |
| 19:45 | chris | heya hdl, was just gonna check you still dont have access to download.koha.org but i did my blog post anyway |
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| 19:52 | * chris | isnt quite sure why slef is trying to pick a fight, i think ill just ignore it |
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| 20:09 | richard | friday link - http://wikileaks.org/ |
| 20:10 | chris | they have leaked LEK? :-) |
| 20:10 | richard | lol |
| 20:13 | chris | gotta love friday before a long weekend :) |
| 20:14 | richard | yeah |
| 20:14 | brendan | oh long weekend |
| 20:15 | chris | labour day on monday |
| 20:15 | brendan | ah nice |
| 20:15 | enjoy | |
| 20:15 | I want to see some more fancy pancakes for your kids -- chris | |
| 20:16 | the last pictures I saw looked excellent | |
| 20:16 | chris | hehe, kahurangi turns 3 next month, i have to make a lion cake |
| 20:16 | brendan | ha |
| 20:16 | chris | he's been asking for it for ages ... and we have no idea where he got the idea from |
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| 21:12 | ricardo | Hi everyone! |
| 21:13 | chris | hi ricardo |
| 21:13 | ricardo | chris: Hi! :) |
| 21:13 | First things first: my thanks and congratulations to Henri (hdl) for releasing Koha 3.0.4 and to Chris (chris) for managing the translation process. | |
| 21:15 | (It's obvious this was and is a very difficult task and I think both are dealing with it very well) | |
| 21:17 | chris | thank you |
| 21:17 | ricardo | chris: You're welcome :) |
| 21:17 | chris: I'm having an issue, regarding an upgrade of a previous 3.0.3 install (NOT a git install) to 3.0.4 (using the "perl Makefile.PL --prev-install /path/to/koha-install.log"). In OPAC, I'm not getting the updated translation and in the Intranet, I'm getting a strange "look" (like I got some time ago, where the "pt-PT" directory was missing some folders) | |
| 21:18 | chris | did you catch the latest fixed release? |
| 21:18 | i think the best bet is to run the upgrade | |
| 21:18 | ricardo | chris: I catched the 2nd one, for sure... I'm not sure that I installed the 3rd one (I think I didn't) |
| 21:18 | chris | then run install-code.pl pt-PT again, and copy the files |
| 21:18 | see if that fixes it | |
| 21:19 | ricardo | chris: Right... I'm confident that it will and I thank you for the tip. But I'm concerned that other users may also be affected by this (maybe also for other translations) and they probably wouldn't know the workaround of deleting the "xx-YY" directory and run "install-code.pl" |
| 21:20 | chris | *nod* maybe you could do a post to the mailing list? |
| 21:20 | ricardo | chris: I'll test it, nevertheless. Maybe, there's some small bug in "Makefile.PL" for upgrades. |
| 21:20 | chris | could well be |
| 21:21 | ricardo | chris: Yes, I'll try to test it tomorrow (I'm back at home, and I don't have access to the server and, unfortunately, I forgot to check the Koha error logs before returning home. Again, I'll do that tomorrow, if I find the time - have a meeting scheduled for mid-morning) |
| 21:22 | chris | sweet as |
| 21:22 | ricardo | http://www.urbandictionary.com[…]p?term=sweet%20as |
| 21:22 | Didn't know that one! :) | |
| 21:22 | " Second most common phrase in New Zealand after "awesome". " | |
| 21:22 | chris | i think its an nz one |
| 21:22 | yeah | |
| 21:22 | ricardo | Right, eheh |
| 21:23 | chris: I bet that you have to be careful with that expression, if you go outside of NZ (but to other English speaking nation) and say that expression near a girl. She may think that you said something slightly different! ;-) | |
| 21:23 | brendan | sweet |
| 21:24 | :) | |
| 21:24 | chris | hehe yes, i had a friend from canada visiting here |
| 21:24 | ricardo | brendan: LOL! |
| 21:24 | chris: Eheh... I can imagine the situation | |
| 21:24 | chris | who was quite flattered so many guys were telling her she had beautiful anatomy ;-) |
| 21:24 | ricardo | chris: ROTFL! |
| 21:25 | chris | "I was just buying something at the shop and i said i only have a $20 and the guy said sweet ass, new zealanders are very free with the compliments eh?" |
| 21:25 | ricardo | chris: LOL |
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| 21:29 | ricardo | chris: Yeah... So, I guess that misunderstanding may also be the start of some beautiful friendships ;-) |
| 21:29 | chris | hehe |
| 21:29 | ricardo | :) |
| 21:29 | chris | http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]elopment:roles3.4 |
| 21:30 | ricardo | chris: Nice. Thanks for the info |
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| 21:32 | ricardo | chris: Do you know if I should check somefile besides "Makefile.PL" for this installation issue(s) ? |
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| 21:41 | chris | not sure actually ricardo |
| 21:41 | ricardo | chris: OK, no problem. Thanks anyway |
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| 22:10 | * chris | updates the roles for 3.4 page, just got sign off my from employer to stand for release manager |
| 22:16 | ricardo | chris: That's a very courageous move... I have to admit I'm NOT that brave! |
| 22:17 | chris | ive done it twice before :) |
| 22:17 | someone has too | |
| 22:17 | hdl | chris: congrats. |
| 22:17 | ricardo | chris: Someone, yes |
| 22:18 | chris | thanks hdl |
| 22:19 | ricardo | hdl: And congrats to you too! :) After being a Release Manager / Release Maintainer (which I'll bet is a *HUGE* task), I was expecting that one would say to someone else that volunteers as a RM not "congrats" but "my condolences" ;-) |
| 22:20 | chris | hehe |
| 22:21 | ricardo | :) |
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| 23:07 | ricardo | hdl: Are you still there? |
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