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00:17 | ricardo | wb chris |
00:18 | chris: Debian 5.0.2 ("lenny") has Locale::PO version 0.17... Maybe the same one as a minimum should be required? | |
00:19 | chris | sounds good to me |
00:20 | ricardo | chris: Cool :) |
00:44 | Patch sent: | |
00:44 | [Koha-patches] [PATCH] Added Locale::PO dependency in Makefile.PL | |
00:44 | http://lists.koha.org/pipermai[…]tober/004749.html | |
00:46 | Back in 30 mins or so... | |
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01:03 | pianohackr|work | back tomorrow, bye all |
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01:24 | ricardo | Time to go to bed... Take care everyone! :) |
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01:28 | chris_n2 | g'night |
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07:02 | hdl_laptop | hi |
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07:46 | tajoli | hi henri daminen, do you ask for me ? |
07:48 | hdl_laptop | tajoli: mmm I don't think so. |
07:49 | tajoli | so all OK for bug fix 3712 ? |
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09:03 | tajoli | Ok, I close the bug 3712 |
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09:16 | kf | hi #koha |
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11:59 | slef | hi all. Is Jesse Weaver still @liblime |
12:00 | ? | |
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12:07 | hdl_laptop | hi slef no |
12:07 | hi owen | |
12:07 | gmcharlt: around ? | |
12:07 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: back |
12:07 | sorry, been sick the past few days | |
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12:08 | owen | munin must be at gmcharlt's house fetching him soup |
12:08 | hdl_laptop | oh.... Hope it is not a serious disease |
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12:08 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: just flu, and over now |
12:08 | hdl_laptop | hi miguel-xercode |
12:08 | jwagner | gmcharlt, have some virtual chicken soup :-) |
12:09 | hdl_laptop | simple or swine flu ? |
12:09 | I had been told on the channel that you were on training session. Tough training ;) | |
12:09 | gmcharlt | simple |
12:10 | hdl_laptop | welcome back |
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12:14 | hdl_laptop | Noe are you around ? It is the Flood here |
12:16 | owen | good morning nengard |
12:16 | nengard | howdy owen |
12:16 | nicomo_laptop reading your long email now :) hehe - will reply soon | |
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12:18 | chris_n | g'morning |
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12:19 | owen | slef: Did you find jesse's email address? |
12:19 | slef | owen: not yet. I'm wondering whether to take a bug off him. Opinions? |
12:19 | owen | Or was that not your question>? |
12:20 | slef | I was mainly wondering if jesse was likely to fix a bug currently assigned to him. |
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12:20 | owen | He's pianohacker at gmail.com |
12:20 | slef | Does the new label printer cope with unicode? |
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12:24 | hdl_laptop | slef: I know chris_n worked on that |
12:24 | chris_n | slef: not well |
12:24 | slef | yeah, I need to review it |
12:24 | how badly? better than barfing? | |
12:26 | chris_n | slef: there is a post in the list archives recently in which joe and I discuss it a bit |
12:26 | slef | I'm pondering an ugly transliteration hack to the current code to stop it barfing. |
12:26 | chris_n | slef: it produces a broken pdf |
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12:26 | slef | chris_n: http://www.nabble.com/Diacriti[…]63.html#a25654563 |
12:26 | ? | |
12:26 | * chris_n | looks |
12:26 | chris_n | yup |
12:27 | as you can see, I intend on working on the *real* fix | |
12:27 | but time is a factor at present | |
12:28 | slef | amen |
12:28 | chris_n | I will have some hours to devote to it in December, but it may need some co-sponsorship as well |
12:28 | it is not an easy issue | |
12:28 | slef | tell me what resources you need and I'll see what we can raise |
12:29 | chris_n | as the fundamental issue resides in the difference between how pdf describes text and how ascii describes text |
12:29 | slef: I'll get back with you in the next week or so if that's ok | |
12:29 | slef | UTF-8 not ASCII |
12:30 | yes, that would be great... updating bug 2246 should let me know | |
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12:31 | chris_n | right, but UTF-8 and ASCII are basically the same in the method by which they describe text |
12:31 | ie a table of codes vs. gliph description (for pdf) | |
12:31 | owen | I'm curious about something I'm seeing in admin/branches.pl: "default("MESSAGE2",$template);" |
12:31 | I understand that this is setting the MESSAGE2 variable, but I don't understand why it's doing it in a different way than other template variables | |
12:32 | chris_n | slef: the same problem will ultimately haunt the patron card creator as well... so it all needs to be fixed for good |
12:37 | bbiab | |
12:39 | slef | chris_n: it's the patron card creator which is haunting me. |
12:39 | biab too | |
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12:48 | owen | No takers on "default()"? |
12:50 | Hi schuster, CGI926 | |
12:50 | slef | owen: I don't understand why it's doing it in a different way either, but me and the template system aren't best friends anyway. |
12:51 | gmcharlt | owen: it just seems to be adding logic specific to branches.pl - I don't think it's meant to be general purpose pattern |
12:51 | owen | Okay, hence pianohacker's comment yesterday that "branches.pl is very strange" |
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12:55 | hdl_laptop | owen seems really old stuff |
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12:58 | Nate | mornin all |
13:03 | owen | Hi Nate |
13:04 | Nate | hi owen! |
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13:17 | Amit | hi galen |
13:17 | gmcharlt | hi Amit |
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13:31 | chris_n | hi gmcharlt :-) |
13:32 | gmcharlt | hi chris_n |
13:32 | chris_n | gmcharlt: we miss munin |
13:32 | gmcharlt | I've asked cfouts to revive it |
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13:35 | hdl_laptop | owen : in advance notices, there are no input for itemscontent. |
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13:36 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt : Should I create itemscontent parameter on advancenotices.pl and use it just as in overduenotices ? |
13:36 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: yes, may as well make that bit consistent for now |
13:37 | hdl_laptop | http://biblibre.pastebin.com/d6f4e7b39 for release notes if you want to provide your opinion |
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13:37 | ricardo | Hi everyone! :) |
13:38 | chris_n | slef: I hope to be back working on it next week |
13:38 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: I could also add itemscontent processing to C4::Letters since this will be shared between more than one script. |
13:38 | Do you agree ? | |
13:38 | gmcharlt | yes, I agree |
13:38 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: Just saw your Release Notes for 3.0.4. That's great! :) |
13:39 | hdl_laptop: I just have one suggestion for now. Update the URLs for the mailing lists so that they don't point to lists.nongnu.org anymore... Do you want me to submit a patch for that? | |
13:40 | slef | hdl_laptop: can it list the bug numbers please? |
13:40 | hdl_laptop | which lists ? |
13:40 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: http://lists.nongnu.org/mailma[…]stinfo/koha-devel |
13:40 | hdl_laptop | slef you have them in the release notes. |
13:41 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: http://lists.koha.org/mailman/[…]fo/koha-translate |
13:41 | slef | hdl_laptop: I thought you said http://biblibre.pastebin.com/d6f4e7b39 was the release notes :-/ |
13:41 | hdl_laptop | ricardo: where are those listed ? |
13:41 | oh sorry wanted to say release announcement | |
13:42 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: Actually, only "koha-devel" is "wrong" (using "lists.nongnu.org"). koha-translate is correct (already using "lists.koha.org") |
13:43 | hdl_laptop | release notes are http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]dbe50df4d995e03a5 |
13:43 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: right |
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13:46 | hdl_laptop | ricardo oh you're right |
13:46 | will update that straight away | |
13:50 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: Thanks! :) |
13:52 | hdl_laptop | done |
13:58 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: Cool |
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14:21 | jwagner | hdl_laptop, owen, gmcharlt -- catching up a bit here. There are some existing bugs about other types of notices not being able to read items.content. See Bugs 3203 and 3383. It's a problem we've been seeing as well. |
14:30 | hdl_laptop | mmm... |
14:31 | Will write an RFC to slove that | |
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14:31 | hdl_laptop | severe bug which need a general solution |
14:33 | cabber | just testing koha.org cgi interface ... hi, all ... cab from nh |
14:34 | owen | Hi cabber |
14:34 | cabber | woo, it works ... ok, then |
14:41 | is there a way to find out when each version of koha was released? v. 3.01.00.058 for example? | |
14:42 | nengard | cabber it's in the git log somewhere .. hang on |
14:42 | cabber | hanging :-) |
14:42 | nengard | cabber - i was wrong - it's base .058 |
14:42 | I have to upgrade mine :) | |
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14:43 | nengard | looks like 61 is the most recent: |
14:43 | http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]c4663ab7bf509a62e | |
14:43 | I skimmed here: http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]p=Koha;a=shortlog for titles that started with 'DB rev' | |
14:44 | http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]t=commit&s=DB+rev | |
14:45 | cabber | so it looks like .032 dates back to May 11 ... |
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14:46 | nengard | cabber the patch you're looking for though was in August: http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]85d1c3673f3318a09 |
14:49 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: is there a way to have a download link ready ? |
14:49 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: it's pending action by cfouts, per the message I CCed you on |
14:49 | hdl_laptop | Or should I post it on www.biblibre.com to be sure it is on the web ? |
14:50 | ok. thx | |
14:50 | gmcharlt | let's give Clay a chance to deal with it (he's on Pacific time, so may not be awake yet) |
14:50 | of course, if it doesn't happen ... we have larger problems | |
14:52 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: I think that 3023 and 3383 are two bugs that can be coped with improving reports and enabling call of reports in letters. |
14:59 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: perhaps - question though, what bug did you mean? 3023 doesn't seem relevant |
14:59 | hdl_laptop | sorry 3203 |
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15:03 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: I like the idea of being able to turn an arbitrary report into notices |
15:03 | although "arbitrary report" would need qualifiers | |
15:03 | i.e., you can't send notices if a report has nothing to do with patrons | |
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15:05 | jwagner | Speaking of sending reports, has anyone ever figured out the problem with the Schedule function? See Bug 1993 -- it hasn't worked in ages but the Schedule link is still there on the reports page. |
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15:06 | nengard | jwagner - someone told me it did work - but not on sites on a shared server .... not sure if that's accurate or not |
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15:40 | Topic for #koha is now discussion channel for the Koha ILS | Please vote in the final foundation vote by 25/10/2009 http://opensource.web2learning[…]sid=88794&lang=en | View real-time results: http://opensource.web2learning[…]ser.php?sid=88794 | |
15:40 | wizzyrea | owen: did you ever get your apache to stop whining about not finding the FQDN for your server in your test install? |
15:41 | (I found the answer) | |
15:45 | owen | wizzyrea: No, what did you find out? |
15:46 | wizzyrea | I just added ServerName "myservername.org" into my apache2.conf |
15:46 | and the error went away | |
15:48 | ricardo | wizzyrea: OK... but then you have to edit your local "hosts" file to resolve "myservername.org" to the IP address of the server (or have it registered in DNS) |
15:48 | wizzyrea | yep, I do have that |
15:48 | ricardo | wizzyrea: right :) |
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15:50 | owen | Re: the "Fine Accrual" message to the Koha list, does anyone know of an outstanding bug that prevents fines from being accrued? |
15:51 | I realize the obvious answer is to check to see whether the fines cron job is being run, but I wondered if there was something else up | |
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16:12 | * nengard | lunching |
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16:13 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: May I still write a few small corrections for the Release Notes, concerning (only) the Portuguese translation(s)? |
16:14 | hdl_laptop | you can |
16:14 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: Cool... Thanks :) Should I submit it as a patch? |
16:15 | hdl_laptop | well, yes |
16:15 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: OK, cool... Doing it now |
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16:26 | IrmaCalyx | * |
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16:27 | ricardo | hdl_away: OK. I sent the patch just now: |
16:27 | [Koha-patches] [PATCH] Updated references to Portuguese translation in Release Notes | |
16:28 | http://lists.koha.org/pipermai[…]tober/004751.html | |
16:41 | wizzyrea | sekjal: remember our talk about WP and WPMU? |
16:41 | I just had a wpmu zen moment | |
16:41 | sekjal | oh? |
16:41 | wizzyrea | yea |
16:42 | I think (squee) that I'm going to move all of my sites into wpmu | |
16:42 | * wizzyrea | is sorry, she just had to share |
16:42 | sekjal | awesome! |
16:42 | wizzyrea | if you could see what was in my heart right now, you'd see dancing. |
16:43 | so thanks for reminding me to look at that again :) | |
16:43 | sekjal | I'm really glad it's coming together |
16:43 | I love that feeling | |
16:45 | I hope to be heart-dancing by the end of the day; I'm looking to do a new dev install, then upgrade to 3.0.4 | |
16:46 | wizzyrea | ooh that's exciting! |
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16:47 | sekjal | my original dev machine is kind of a clunker, and isn't exactly the same platform as our production |
16:47 | best to limit the variables where I can | |
16:48 | ricardo | Going home. See you! |
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16:53 | sekjal | hmmm.... my dev install doesn't seem to be generating a koha-install-log; rather, it's using the one from my production install |
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17:34 | nengard | wizzyrea - i can't get MU to install on my server |
17:34 | gonna ask my host to do it for me :) | |
17:50 | sekjal | I'm having trouble doing a dev install on a box that already has a standard install on it. |
17:50 | has anyone else experienced this? | |
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17:51 | sekjal | my koha-conf.xml, koha-httpd.conf and koha-install-log keep copying over from the other install, even though my makefile seems to be listening to the options I put into Makefile.PL |
17:52 | brendan | are you working with a dev-install |
17:53 | sekjal | trying to. My production install is standard |
17:53 | brendan | so you're working on the dev-install now |
17:54 | sekjal | yeah. I run Makefile.PL, put in my dev-system configs, and then run make |
17:54 | brendan | ah -- |
17:54 | sekjal | the makefile is correctly created, as far as I can tell |
17:54 | I just get the config files from my standard install copied over into the dev-install | |
18:02 | chris | morning |
18:03 | wizzyrea | nengard: it was a trick, to be sure. I'm sure it's worse when you don't have access to the big config files. |
18:03 | chris | hdl_away: when you are back, looks like the 3.0.4 isnt on download yet |
18:04 | chris_n | hi chris |
18:07 | sekjal | ah, I'm experiencing bug 2474 |
18:07 | brendan | morning chris |
18:07 | morning chris_n | |
18:07 | chris_n | hey brendan |
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18:08 | Ropuch | Eveneing #koha |
18:09 | brendan | hi Ropuch |
18:10 | Ropuch | Is git clone git://git.koha.org/pub/scm/koha.git kohaclone getting me w 3.0.4? |
18:11 | chris | not until you do |
18:11 | git checkout -b 3.0.x --track origin/3.0.x | |
18:12 | Ropuch | chris: thanks |
18:13 | I reaaly need get familiar with git soon | |
18:15 | chris | http://stats.workbuffer.org/ko[…]220-now/tags.html <-- stats for 3.0.4 |
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18:20 | Ropuch | I'm going to speak about koha on opensolaris con |
18:21 | I'm hoping to arrange a couple of people to cooperate with the project | |
18:22 | sekjal | okay, after a couple tries, the work-around for bug 2474 worked. I have a dev-install at last! |
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18:34 | brendan | sekjal -- no onto zebra :) |
18:34 | now onto | |
18:34 | sekjal | I'm making a documentation pitstop first; get some details down on our wiki |
18:37 | chris_n | chris: stats don't seem to be updated atm? |
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19:32 | chris | should be updated now |
19:32 | http://stats.workbuffer.org/ko[…]220-now/tags.html | |
19:32 | 1673 commits in 3.04 | |
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19:35 | chris | hmmm |
19:35 | hdl_away: you gone to bed? | |
19:36 | * chris | wonders if hdl has lost access to put the tarball up on download.koha.org |
19:37 | * chris_n | thought gmcharlt had sent cfouts an inquiry concerning that |
19:38 | gmcharlt | chris chris_n: cfouts has responded, and is awaiting file location from hdl |
19:38 | unfortunately, I no longer have shell access to the download.koha.org box, so have no ability to do it myself | |
19:38 | chris | ahh hopefully get that soon, i wanna do a blogpost about it but not before the file is up |
19:39 | gmcharlt | usual excuse given: with mixture of LL and koha.org assets on same virtual server, LL feels it is inappropriate to give shell access to non-LL employees to koha.org servers, etc. |
19:39 | chris | will move the stuff off then you goobers |
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19:39 | richard | hi |
19:39 | chris | im sorry but im allout of patience |
19:40 | chris_n | hi richard |
19:40 | richard | hiyas chris and chris |
19:40 | * chris_n | tries to imagine goobers working on a web server ;-) |
19:40 | chris_n | and thinks of accidentally dropping his chewing gum into the processor fan |
19:42 | chris | hehe |
19:43 | chris_n: some windows questions for ya :-) | |
19:43 | chris_n | ich... go ahead |
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19:43 | chris | from another chris, on the mailing list :) |
19:44 | chris_n | throw a brick through it... :) |
19:44 | chris | chris brown-syed is cool, he was teaching a class on Koha at Buffalo Uni, way back in the day |
19:44 | i think the answer for him is dont use activestate use strawberry .. is that right? | |
19:45 | chris_n | I think he would be well advised to work with strawberry |
19:45 | however, it is not for the faint-of-heart atm | |
19:45 | chris | *nod* |
19:46 | chris_n | it took some muscling to get some of the modules installed the other night |
19:46 | chris: shall I reply? | |
19:47 | chris | if you have time that would be great |
19:47 | id just be quoting you anyway :) | |
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19:57 | chris | hiya Jo |
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19:58 | chris | Jo: got an email from Waitaki, they would like a demo site, so ill use your bibliographic data if thats ok |
20:08 | hdl_away | gmcharlt: chris cfouts : location is /home/hdl |
20:09 | gmcharlt | hdl_away: cool - you'll need to email that to cfouts, as he isn't in channel |
20:11 | chris | hdl_away: nice work on the release :) |
20:11 | hdl_away | gmcharlt: i just sent him answer on . |
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20:15 | chris | http://download.koha.org/ |
20:15 | its up :) | |
20:16 | hdl_away | wooot |
20:16 | owen | *whew* |
20:16 | hdl_away | have to translate in french now |
20:16 | chris | :) |
20:16 | hdl_away | but 1st, sleep |
20:16 | good night | |
20:16 | chris | you deserve it |
20:16 | good night | |
20:16 | gmcharlt | good night |
20:18 | chris_n | hdl_away++ |
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21:14 | chris | heya joetho and paul_p |
21:15 | gmcharlt | hi paul_p |
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21:39 | chris | hi fsx, nengard and IrmaCalyx |
21:43 | Jo | Hi all |
21:43 | Chris: yes to biblio data and take borrowers too if you can usefully anonymize it | |
21:43 | chris | cloudy up your way levin? |
21:43 | Jo | raining mate |
21:44 | chris | hmm northerly here, so that means we'll get it too |
21:44 | Jo | warm though |
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21:56 | richard | bummer. i was looking forward to a dry weekend |
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22:15 | joetho | selfishman |
22:16 | @selfishman : thanks for the tips and general encouragement | |
22:16 | Youdaman. | |
22:16 | SelfishMan | hope it works out |
22:16 | athena is so much "fun" to migrate from | |
22:17 | chris | heh |
22:17 | joetho | The term "Migration" would seem to indicate something occurring regularly |
22:17 | like geese | |
22:18 | omg that is a horrible image to leave you with, but hey | |
22:18 | SelfishMan | from what I have heard it is a regular thing for people to dump athena for koha |
22:18 | joetho | yes, but there is migration, and then there is IMmigration |
22:19 | migration being the annual event | |
22:19 | chris | i wonder if we have covered all the proprietary ILS's yet |
22:19 | joetho | although, if you had to migrate every year, you would keep things clean and simple |
22:19 | chris | not polaris i dont think |
22:19 | joetho | evergreen? |
22:19 | chris | but i think we probably have libraries from each of the others |
22:19 | thats not proprietary :-) | |
22:20 | joetho | whatever |
22:20 | you know what I mean | |
22:20 | chris | i dont think there have been any EG -> Koha migrations, i think there have been or will LL -> EG migrations though |
22:21 | EG is pretty nice software | |
22:21 | brendan | I think there are a few LL -> EG -- like chris says |
22:21 | chris | im just happy a library is using free software, wether it's EG or Koha |
22:24 | SelfishMan | I can think of many things I would rather see my library spending money on |
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22:26 | joetho | Salaries. |
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22:30 | chris_n2 | maybe LEK->EG.... |
22:31 | chris | i think LL->I dont want LEK so im going to EG instead |
22:31 | gmcharlt | joetho: materials - my wife came back from a training session and mentioned another attendee, whose budget was all of $22 :( |
22:31 | chris | omg |
22:31 | thats like a pack of crayons | |
22:32 | * chris_n2 | gives up hope of finding arcane knowledge of dmake |
22:38 | chris | hmm im not sure john is actually reading what people are saying to him, i think ill give up on that thread |
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