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| 00:02 | |Lupin| | 'd night all |
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| 01:16 | rich-away is now known as richard | |
| 01:52 | brendan | anybody got any cool looking koha logo's out there -- or changes to the normal koha logo? |
| 01:54 | richard | well all the emails that the creator/approver get now anyway |
| 01:54 | gah | |
| 01:54 | wrong # | |
| 01:55 | there used to be a wodge of them on the koha site | |
| 01:57 | brendan | yeah -- found a few of those |
| 02:00 | richard | try a search on koha in http://katipo.co.nz/gallery |
| 02:00 | there's a few there ... but not many | |
| 02:00 | brendan | I see babies :) |
| 02:01 | richard | yeah, lot of fecundity around here |
| 02:01 | brendan | heh |
| 02:07 | richard | brendan - did you get these ones - http://old.koha.org/community/[…]ources/index.html |
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| 02:08 | brendan | yes I have seen those |
| 02:08 | richard | k |
| 02:08 | brendan | just wondering if anyone -- has changed them |
| 02:08 | just wondering what was out there? | |
| 02:09 | working on a new website and was wondering if I should mess with them -- or go with stock... | |
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| 02:10 | chris | hi gmcharlt |
| 02:10 | gmcharlt | hi chris |
| 02:10 | another day, another airline :/ | |
| 02:10 | chris | where you flying to today? |
| 02:11 | gmcharlt | in Chicago coming back from a one day session at UIUC (for library school) |
| 02:11 | flying home tomorrow morning | |
| 02:11 | chris | ahhh |
| 02:15 | brendan | heya gmcharlt |
| 02:17 | gmcharlt | hi brendan |
| 02:17 | chris | nz policing at it's finest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2NhQmZ3S6E |
| 02:19 | richard | rofl |
| 02:19 | chris | yeah "safer communities together" it was awesome, id buy that man a beer |
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| 03:01 | chris_n2 | ouch |
| 03:02 | there's a difference between "File->Exit" and the close window button in FF | |
| 03:02 | * chris_n2 | just closed a bunch of browser tabs he did not want to :-P |
| 03:13 | brendan | I still type -- git -- when I mean give -- or some other word that starts with g |
| 03:19 | chris_n2 | yeah, I find myself 'gitting' a lot of things |
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| 03:35 | |Lupin| | hi |
| 03:45 | richard | hi |Lupin| |
| 03:45 | |Lupin| | hey richard |
| 03:46 | richard | it's a pity the national library of NZ isn't more savvy about having MS Word downloads on their site - but there is a nice mention of Koha here - http://www.natlib.govt.nz/cata[…]rnaby-lianza-2009 |
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| 04:36 | brendan | evening #koha |
| 04:46 | @wunder 93117 | |
| 04:46 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 18.6�C (9:41 PM PDT on October 15, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Rising). Wind Advisory in effect until 9 am PDT Friday... |
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| 05:39 | chris_n2 | @wunder 28334 |
| 05:39 | munin | chris_n2: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 13.0�C (1:19 AM EDT on October 16, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Rising). |
| 05:39 | brendan | heya chris_n2 |
| 05:39 | you're another one that stays up late | |
| 05:39 | chris_n2 | howdy brendan |
| 05:40 | tonight is genealogy night | |
| 05:40 | brendan | ah |
| 05:40 | chris_n2 | yet anther hobbie |
| 05:40 | another even | |
| 05:40 | brendan | my hobbie -- baseball |
| 05:41 | over for tonight -- so back to working :) | |
| 05:41 | chris_n2 | hehe |
| 05:41 | I get out with the kids and play occasionally | |
| 05:44 | Ropuch | hi brendan, chris_n2 |
| 05:44 | chris_n2 | hello Ropuch |
| 05:44 | brendan | heya Ropuch |
| 05:45 | how you doing Ropuch | |
| 05:48 | Ropuch | Good, thanks |
| 05:48 | I'm about to get my morning coffee | |
| 05:49 | * chris_n2 | is pouring the coffee into his eyes at this time of night ;-) |
| 05:49 | Ropuch | It's 7:48 am here ;> |
| 05:50 | chris_n2 | 1:45 am here... |
| 05:50 | brendan | nice enjoy your coffee |
| 05:50 | Ropuch | chris_n2: not that late ;> |
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| 05:54 | chris_n2 | Ropuch: you must be in Europe |
| 05:57 | Ropuch | Yes, I'm in Poland |
| 05:58 | I'm thinking about some 'tool' for uploading custom cover pictures during acquisition | |
| 05:59 | chris_n2 | that would be cool |
| 06:01 | g'night all | |
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| 06:18 | |Lupin| | chris: around ? |
| 06:20 | cait | morning :) |
| 06:20 | |Lupin| | hi cait :) |
| 06:23 | Ropuch | Hello |Lupin|, chris_n2-away |
| 06:23 | I mean cait | |
| 06:25 | cait | ;) |
| 06:25 | ok, time to go to work, bbl | |
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| 06:43 | |Lupin| | bonjour laurence |
| 06:44 | laurence | hello |Lupin| |
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| 06:52 | kf | morning #koha |
| 06:52 | brendan | morning kf |
| 06:53 | kf | morning brendan |
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| 06:54 | |Lupin| | guten tag kf |
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| 07:17 | |Lupin| | hello paul_p |
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| 09:33 | ricardo | Hi all... |
| 09:34 | I'm getting a memory leak in a git installation in a Virtual Machine with 256 Megs of RAM :( | |
| 09:34 | [33279.082924] Out of memory: kill process 3881 (apache2) score 248080 or a child | |
| 09:34 | [33279.082988] Killed process 4559 (search.pl) | |
| 09:35 | [33320.859642] Out of memory: kill process 3881 (apache2) score 243699 or a child | |
| 09:35 | [33320.859642] Out of memory: kill process 3881 (apache2) score 243699 or a child | |
| 09:35 | [33320.859690] Killed process 4560 (circulation.pl) | |
| 09:36 | Is anyone having this problem as well? | |
| 09:37 | (Git Koha installation for Koha 3.0.x branch) | |
| 09:43 | hdl_laptop | not using koha on a VM |
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| 09:43 | fredericd | give more RAM to your VM! |
| 09:43 | ricardo | fredericd: Right... but that costs money in this case :P |
| 09:43 | hdl_laptop: OK. Thanks for the info | |
| 09:44 | fredericd: It's a VPS... In this case, running in "Rackspace Cloud" | |
| 09:45 | fredericd | ricardo: I understand... Can you suppress/disable OS services? Have you X11 installed? |
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| 09:46 | ricardo | fredericd: No X11 installed... This is a pretty "clean" Debian 5.0.3 install. I may search for more services, though |
| 09:47 | I did have a "SetEnv KOHA_DEBUG 2" (or something like that) in the Koha configuration file... I commented it and rebooted the machine, but the problem persists | |
| 09:48 | hdl_laptop | ricardo: setenv KOHA_DEBUG 1 |
| 09:48 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: OK. I'll try that. Thanks! :) |
| 09:48 | hdl_laptop | see DebugLevel syspref in Koha |
| 09:48 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: Right... |
| 09:48 | hdl_laptop | and set that to 1 |
| 09:48 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: Should I set the value in *both* places? In the staff client (web) and in the Koha conf file? |
| 09:49 | hdl_laptop | yes |
| 09:49 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: OK, thanks... I'll do that right now (just finished rebooting the VM) |
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| 09:50 | fredericd | ricardo: 256MB, it's very short. Apache is known to be RAM hungry... You can try a light weight web server like lighthttp, but be prepared to spend time on its config... |
| 09:52 | ricardo | fredericd: Yeah... I have some Apache settings for other machine, that I may try to use. |
| 09:55 | All swap used... Yep, I will have to increase RAM for this, even for debugging it... Doing it now | |
| 09:56 | I did have many processes "search.pl" (that seems strange). I'll have to look into this | |
| 09:56 | (those processes appeared with "top") | |
| 09:59 | pastebot | "ricardo" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "Output of "top" in a git Koha 3.0.x installation (in a Debian 5.0.3 Virtual Machine)" (24 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/11 |
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| 11:40 | nengard | hdl_laptop around? |
| 11:41 | hdl_laptop | yes |
| 11:41 | hi ;) | |
| 11:42 | nengard | hdl_laptop was going to say I repllied to your email |
| 11:43 | but then I saw that i needed to download git for my mac :) hehe - sorry - it's still early and I've been sick and my head is fuzzy | |
| 11:43 | trying that now | |
| 11:44 | nope ... no luck | |
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| 11:46 | hdl_laptop | I answered you. |
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| 11:50 | nengard | thanks hdl_laptop - still having issues - installed git - but it says git is not a command it recognizes :( bleh |
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| 11:51 | nengard | gonna try restarting - the readme says I need to log out |
| 11:51 | hdl_laptop | ok |
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| 11:51 | hdl_laptop | see you then |
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| 11:54 | nengard | hdl_laptop - still no luck :( - will send you my error messages |
| 11:54 | jdavidb | Morning #koha! :) |
| 11:55 | Ropuch | Hi nengard, jdavidb, hdl_laptop |
| 11:55 | nengard | morning all |
| 11:55 | hdl_laptop | hi Ropuch |
| 11:55 | jwagner | And good morning everyone |
| 11:56 | hdl_laptop | hi jwagner |
| 11:57 | kf | good morning |
| 11:57 | hdl_laptop | hi K |
| 11:57 | kf | |
| 11:59 | jwagner | Bonjour and Guten tag |
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| 12:07 | nengard | hiya Nate |
| 12:07 | Nate | hey nicloe |
| 12:08 | wow cant type this morning | |
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| 12:16 | pastebot | "gGHcPMGdVYjoKomqOU" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "pnTAnfbB" (1 line) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/12 |
| 12:17 | ricardo | (great... link spam sent through pastebot) |
| 12:32 | chris_n | wow... koha 3.1 on Strawberry; cool |
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| 12:34 | chris_n | g'morning #koha |
| 12:34 | * chris_n | pours coffee into his keyboard to get his computer going |
| 12:35 | ricardo | chris_n: LOL! |
| 12:47 | jwagner | chris_n, does your computer LIKE coffee??? |
| 12:51 | hdl_laptop | nengard: ? |
| 12:51 | nengard | here |
| 12:51 | hdl_laptop | I propose to create the git repository for you. |
| 12:51 | ricardo | Can someone give me hints to debug this: |
| 12:51 | nengard | chris_n i think that will have the reverse effect ... |
| 12:51 | ricardo | Weird characters in titles in OPAC search results for a Koha 3.0.x git installation (records imported by bulkmarcimport.pl) |
| 12:52 | hdl_laptop | Then you could clone that. and copy your stuff into that |
| 12:52 | ricardo | http://twitpic.com/lq6bm |
| 12:52 | nengard | hdl_laptop how do I do that? are there instructions online somewhere? |
| 12:52 | ricardo | ... the strange thing is: |
| 12:52 | The characters that were weird, in the titles of OPAC search results, appear correctly in the title of OPAC record detail (Koha 3.0.x git, bulkmarcimport) | |
| 12:52 | http://twitpic.com/lq6iv | |
| 12:54 | |Lupin| | bye all |
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| 12:55 | hdl_laptop | nengard : |
| 12:56 | git clone gitosisgit.biblibre.com:kohadocs.git Kohadocs |
|
| 12:56 | And then copy your stuff into that directory | |
| 12:56 | git add | |
| 12:56 | git commit | |
| 12:56 | git push | |
| 12:57 | git add needs some arguments | |
| 12:57 | keep me tuned | |
| 13:07 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: Hi again. Do you have any hints that may help me understand the issue I mentioned above? ( http://twitpic.com/lq6bm VS http://twitpic.com/lq6iv ) |
| 13:14 | hdl_laptop | are you using UNIMARC ? XSLTs ? |
| 13:15 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: UNIMARC - Yes... XSLTs - I don't think so |
| 13:15 | hdl_laptop | can you send your marc data ? |
| 13:16 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: "Yes, we can" ;-) Do I send it to you by e-mail? |
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| 13:29 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: Just sent you an e-mail with the attached records |
| 13:29 | hdl_laptop | ty |
| 13:29 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: No. Thank YOU. :) |
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| 13:55 | ricardo | Lost power in the room... |
| 13:56 | I have a meeting now. Back in 2 hours or so | |
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| 14:18 | jwagner | wizzyrea, online? |
| 14:26 | wizzyrea | heya jwagner |
| 14:26 | sup | |
| 14:26 | ? | |
| 14:28 | jwagner | Question for you and everyone else, with regard to my problem of yesterday. What would be the implications of allowing Koha to place holds on titles (e.g., on-order) that do not have items attached? Anything in the code or database that would make this A Bad Idea? |
| 14:28 | owen | My objections would be practical ones for patron interactions. |
| 14:30 | jwagner | Meaning that they might be confused about whether items would be forthcoming? I thought about that -- we have sites that catalog online resources, for example, that will never get items attached and shouldn't get holds. |
| 14:31 | (and wizzyrea, thanks for the help yesterday!) | |
| 14:31 | owen | Right, that's the specific case I'm thinking of as well: cataloged online resources (entries for web sites) |
| 14:31 | I would also worry about bibliographic records which had accidentally been left behind after all items were deleted | |
| 14:32 | jwagner | I can't think of any way to flag _title_ records as to whether they can get holds or not, so the idea may be a nonstarter. But I wanted to investigate further. |
| 14:34 | kf | jwagner: for which cases is it necessary to place holds on titles without items? |
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| 14:35 | kf | ah sorry, acquisition |
| 14:36 | jwagner | It's a particular library's existing workflow -- the old system allowed them to create on-order title records with no items, and to have holds placed. Trying to migrate that data into Koha created lots of hiccups because Koha doesn't like title-no-item holds. I've told them they'll probably need to adjust their workflow to create a dummy item, but since I also come from a system that allowed such holds, I wanted to investigate the possibilities in Koha |
| 14:36 | owen | I could use advice on this error: "[warn] zebra_lock_create fail fname=/home/oleonard/koha-dev/var/lock/zebradb/biblios/norm..LCK [Permission denied]" |
| 14:37 | ...after running rebuild_zebra.pl -b -w | |
| 14:37 | brendan | owen check the permissions on those directories |
| 14:37 | cd /home/oleonard/koha-dev/var/lock/zebradb/ | |
| 14:38 | then you'll need to learn about chown | |
| 14:38 | Colin | owen: ls -l the norm.LCK file is it the wrong ownership forthe user running zebrasrv or the script |
| 14:38 | kf | jwagner: I think another workflow is to add items when ordering items which will be possible with new acquisition as I understand it |
| 14:38 | brendan | so you'll probaly want to do something like --- chown -R owen:owen /home/oleonard/koha-dev/var/lock/zebradb/ |
| 14:38 | or whatever the correct sequence is | |
| 14:39 | kf | adding items in acquisiton when placing the order... ... its friday |
| 14:39 | jwagner | kf, yes, thank The Great Pumpkin for Fridays! |
| 14:40 | Colin | A lot of libraries don't like to create items before receipt but do want holds on forthcoming bestseller |
| 14:40 | * owen | agrees with Colin |
| 14:41 | owen | ...but how to distinguish between those on-order titles and other titles with no holdings? |
| 14:41 | kf | so you will need to flag them as on order |
| 14:41 | jwagner | Colin, yes, that's the situation. I liked wizzyrea's workflow -- creating a dummy item that's marked explicitly as not for loan at the item level. If I understand it, that would prevent holds from being placed _on the dummy item_ but would allow a title level hold. |
| 14:42 | hdl_laptop | jwagner: nahuel has worked on reserves at biblio level |
| 14:42 | jwagner | Anything relevant to this situation? |
| 14:43 | hdl_laptop | mmm. It is not because it is notforloan that you should not be able to reserve a book for reference |
| 14:43 | wizzyrea | it would be cool if there was a true "item quick add" that let you, say, check a box to say, this title is on order, create a not for loan item so that holds may be placed on the bib |
| 14:44 | kf | ok, I think im to confused today to think about workflows - will start my weekend now :) bye #koha and have a nice weekend |
| 14:44 | wizzyrea | bye kf |
| 14:44 | have a good weekend :) | |
| 14:44 | jwagner | bye, kf! |
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| 14:45 | wizzyrea | because, at least in our workflow, there are 4 fields, always the same, that must be set for an on order item |
| 14:45 | and there's nothing unique about the item. Home branch would be the logged in branch. | |
| 14:46 | Colin | you want the system to also remove the dummy item when the real copies arrive |
| 14:46 | wizzyrea | right, or you can edit the item to make it an official item |
| 14:46 | about the same amount of work | |
| 14:46 | jwagner | wizzyrea, I wonder if there's anything in, say, one of the 942 subfields that could be used in this manner? For example, one of the 942 subfields is used now as a flag for suppressing display. If there is something unused, maybe it could work like that -- set a flag in the 942 if title-level holds are allowed. |
| 14:46 | wizzyrea | add a barcode, change itypes |
| 14:47 | dk, as pianohacker would say, holds/reserves are a giant headache in the code | |
| 14:47 | :( | |
| 14:47 | jwagner | pianohacker is much too refined in his statements. I'd put it a bit more forcefully myself. But this is A Family Show, right? |
| 14:48 | wizzyrea | haha |
| 14:48 | so they were resistant to the whole "add an item" workflow? | |
| 14:48 | not saying it's the best way (tm) just that it's a way that works (tm) | |
| 14:49 | jwagner | They weren't necessarily resistant, it just came as a bit of a surprise to them. |
| 14:50 | wizzyrea | (as an aside, I'm always kind of skeptical of doing something simply for the sake of preserving historical workflow, so take my statements with a grain of salt) |
| 14:50 | owen | skeptical++ |
| 14:50 | jwagner | wizzyrea, been there, done that, got the scars.... |
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| 14:51 | wizzyrea | (I'm of the, "hm, this is how it works for us now, so let's do it this way" school) |
| 14:51 | jwagner | Trying to convince people to change habits is really tough. |
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | yep, I imagine |
| 14:51 | we're actually pretty lucky, we have nimble minded librarians | |
| 14:51 | :) | |
| 14:51 | erm, not that you don't | |
| 14:51 | * wizzyrea | gets out the shovel |
| 14:52 | wizzyrea | <dig dig dig> |
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| 14:52 | * wizzyrea | 's hole is coming along quite nicely |
| 14:52 | Colin | in many libraries changing workflow is a big political problem |
| 14:52 | jwagner | Don't dig on MY account. Some are nimble-minded, while others definitely aren't. And there's not much changing them. |
| 14:53 | Yep. | |
| 14:54 | wizzyrea | fortunately, in this case I don't think anybody will lose their job over the change ^.^ |
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| 14:59 | * wizzyrea | realizes she's being a bit pig headed this morning |
| 15:00 | jwagner | pigheaded++ |
| 15:00 | and pigheaded-- when it's library staff not doing what we tell them too.... | |
| 15:00 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 15:01 | @karma pigheaded | |
| 15:01 | munin | wizzyrea: Karma for "pigheaded" has been increased 1 time and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 0. |
| 15:01 | Colin | they are just using their inner creativity |
| 15:05 | jwagner | inner creativity-- |
| 15:05 | wizzyrea | ooh, I think you just negative karma'd creativity - how about inner_creativity-- |
| 15:08 | Colin | Once had a customer who informed us he had a medical condition that meant he couldnt follow instructions |
| 15:08 | wizzyrea | LOL really!? |
| 15:09 | so... um... | |
| 15:09 | change was very bad, in that situation | |
| 15:09 | Colin | yep. it gave trainers and support staff their own medical conditions |
| 15:10 | wizzyrea | oi |
| 15:10 | guess they never seated him in the emergency exit row on airplanes | |
| 15:11 | Colin | I hope not |
| 15:12 | owen | Being an ass doesn't qualify as a medical condition ;) |
| 15:13 | wizzyrea | @quote add owen: Being an ass doesn't qualify as a medical condition ;) |
| 15:13 | munin | wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 15:13 | wizzyrea | DOH |
| 15:13 | jwagner | It does if he gets punched out for it! |
| 15:13 | wizzyrea | oh snap! |
| 15:14 | jwagner | @quote add owen: Being an ass doesn't qualify as a medical condition ;) |
| 15:14 | munin | jwagner: The operation succeeded. Quote #41 added. |
| 15:15 | owen | Okay...Seems like Zebra is refusing to start, but not giving an error. |
| 15:16 | It says "Starting Zebra Server" and "Starting Zebraqueue Daemon" when I run those commands | |
| 15:16 | wizzyrea | oh ty jwagner |
| 15:16 | it doesn't do anything? | |
| 15:16 | just sits there? | |
| 15:17 | owen | it doesn't give any additional output. Should it? |
| 15:17 | wizzyrea | nope, that means it's running |
| 15:17 | if you stop it, ctrl-c, then start it again, put a & at the end | |
| 15:17 | then hit enter and it should give you your prompt baack | |
| 15:18 | so <zebra start command> & | |
| 15:18 | (can't remember what it is0 | |
| 15:19 | owen | Here's what I'm following in the install guide: sudo ${SCRIPT_DIR}/koha-zebra-ctl.sh start |
| 15:19 | and: sudo ${SCRIPT_DIR}/koha-zebraqueue-ctl.sh start | |
| 15:19 | wizzyrea | yep, put a & at the end, it should leave the daemon running |
| 15:19 | and give you your prompt back | |
| 15:19 | owen | Both of those commands give me the "Starting..." message and return me to the command prompt. |
| 15:19 | brendan | owen -- can you find where your zebrasrv directory is |
| 15:20 | the reason I ask is --- if you open the koha-zebra-ctl.sh file | |
| 15:20 | it should say where it's looking for the zebrasrv | |
| 15:21 | I mean looking at -- as in -- vim koha-zebra-ctl.sh | |
| 15:21 | * wizzyrea | is ashamed to be a nano fan |
| 15:21 | * owen | appreciates that the install guide suggests nano |
| 15:22 | brendan | Oh yeah -- owen |
| 15:22 | make sure to use the koha-dev one -- not the kohaclone one | |
| 15:22 | owen | Yeah |
| 15:22 | brendan | ok so when you vim -- that file |
| 15:23 | you should see something near to the top like this | |
| 15:23 | ZEBRASRV=/usr/bin/zebrasrv | |
| 15:23 | what does yours say? | |
| 15:23 | owen | The same |
| 15:24 | brendan | ok -- that should be good then |
| 15:25 | ps -aef | grep zebrasrv | |
| 15:25 | return much ? | |
| 15:25 | owen | Nope: oleonard 7586 3908 0 11:24 pts/0 00:00:00 grep zebrasrv |
| 15:26 | brendan | so zebrasrv -- is not running |
| 15:26 | can you do a locate zebrasrv | |
| 15:27 | or - whereis zebrasrv | |
| 15:27 | owen | /etc/alternatives/zebrasrv and /usr/bin/zebrasrv |
| 15:27 | Looks like /usr/bin/zebrasrv is actually pointing to /etc/alternatives/zebrasrv | |
| 15:28 | brendan | hmm... |
| 15:28 | ok on the koha-zebra-ctl.sh file | |
| 15:29 | in that top section -- does the user, group, dbname -- all match your information | |
| 15:29 | and the ZEBRASRV=/usr/bin/zebrasrv | |
| 15:30 | (we could try and change that to /etc/alternatives/zebrasrv ) -- quickly and start zebra (if that doesn't do the trick) put it back in | |
| 15:33 | chris_n | owen: sudo ps -ef | grep zebra |
| 15:33 | opps | |
| 15:33 | * chris_n | should read before he leaps :-\ |
| 15:34 | chris_n | zebra is always a pain to get running; the installer needs to be fixed to set the permissions correctly iirc |
| 15:35 | brendan | true that |
| 15:36 | when I first began with zebrasrv (I had such troubles) I just ran it on screen | |
| 15:38 | chris_n | owen: your koha user needs to own everything from /home/oleonard/koha-dev and below |
| 15:38 | so maybe something like 'sudo chown -R koha:koha /home/oleonard/koha-dev' | |
| 15:39 | * chris_n | says nice things to his zebra so it will keep running |
| 15:41 | owen | Doing so doesn't change the outcome of " ./koha-zebra-ctl.sh start" |
| 15:43 | brendan | ok good luck owen |
| 15:43 | I'm off for the day -- going to see the dodgers | |
| 15:43 | bye #koha | |
| 15:43 | owen | Thanks brendan |
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| 15:44 | Colin | if you run the zebrasrv command in koha-zerbra-ctl.sh on the commandline with -l filename you may get some info in filename |
| 15:46 | chris_n | owen: 'su koha' and then start it |
| 15:48 | if it is assigned to the correct run level, I think it should start on a reboot ok | |
| 15:58 | * wizzyrea | is glad to read this discussion of zebra starting woes... she feels less dumb now |
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| 16:11 | owen | Hmmm... "sudo ps -ef | grep zebra" is showing more promising results, but I'm not getting anything when searching |
| 16:13 | wizzyrea | did you build the indexes? |
| 16:13 | (i'm assuming you did) | |
| 16:16 | owen | ./rebuild_zebra.pl -b -w |
| 16:19 | wizzyrea | i believe that's the one |
| 16:20 | (this is definitely the trickiest part of the koha install experience, I think) | |
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| 16:42 | owen | Hmmm... chris_n looks like you were right. After a restart Zebra is running |
| 16:45 | Returning results that is. Only now 30 seconds later it isn't. | |
| 16:46 | wizzyrea | WIN! ... FAIL! |
| 16:49 | owen | Hm, wait, it seems keyword searching is working, itemtype searching isn't |
| 16:50 | No, never mind, that's a data problem not a Zebra problem. | |
| 16:51 | So, WIN FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES! Which isn't very catchy. | |
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| 16:56 | wizzyrea | hehehe |
| 16:57 | here's a distraction as a reward: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMWi7CLoZ2Q | |
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| 17:00 | chris_n | owen: glad you got your zebra kicking... ;-) |
| 17:01 | owen is now known as owen-away | |
| 17:01 | * chris_n | heads off in search of food |
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| 17:24 | Ropuch | Good evening |
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| 18:49 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: around ? |
| 18:49 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: briefly |
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| 19:59 | chris_n | it must be Friday, everyone is quitting |
| 20:01 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 20:01 | chris | heh |
| 20:01 | Ropuch | ;> |
| 20:02 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: must have missed your brief apparition |
| 20:03 | Ropuch | Does translating intranet on friday night make me a freak? |
| 20:03 | ;> | |
| 20:05 | wizzyrea | nah :) |
| 20:06 | Ropuch | (mitigating circumstances: i have a beer) |
| 20:10 | I've received a proposition to speak about Koha on some Open Solaris & open source in small and medium enterprises conf | |
| 20:26 | chris | excellent |
| 20:27 | pianohackr|work | hi, wizzyrea, Ropuch, chris |
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| 20:34 | Ropuch | Hi pianohackr|work |
| 20:35 | sekjal | my aqorders table isn't getting the totalamount fields filled in at any point in the acquisitions process? |
| 20:35 | is this normal? | |
| 20:37 | Ropuch | Let me see mine |
| 20:38 | sekjal | I've build a cronjob to make payments, and I can't seem to get what we actually have to pay |
| 20:38 | Ropuch | Yup |
| 20:38 | I have NULLs all the way | |
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| 20:39 | sekjal | I'm also finding that my aqorderbreakdown and aqorderdelivery tables clear themselves out when an order is received |
| 20:39 | Ropuch | But i can check the item price and have it included in Funds & Budget |
| 20:39 | wizzyrea | oh hi PH |
| 20:40 | Ropuch | Hello wizzyrea |
| 20:40 | ...after little brak ;> | |
| 20:40 | s/brak/break | |
| 20:42 | * chris | has to go, bbiab |
| 20:42 | wizzyrea | byeeee |
| 20:42 | pianohackr|work | cya |
| 20:43 | wizzyrea: what's keeping you busy these days? | |
| 20:43 | wizzyrea | http://www.mykansaslibrary.org -- getting ready for 2.8 upgrade |
| 20:43 | 160 sites (give or take) | |
| 20:44 | that's wordpress 2.8 | |
| 20:44 | trying to figure out if I can move them all to MU and still have them work, in an easy fashion | |
| 20:45 | that would make these updates a whole lot more trivial | |
| 20:45 | when I did it the first time, MU didn't exist | |
| 20:45 | er, when I started | |
| 20:45 | the projec | |
| 20:45 | project | |
| 20:45 | pianohackr|work | server administration, fun fun |
| 20:45 | sekjal | last time I was in that codebase, MU was pretty much just a wrapper around regular Wordpress... |
| 20:45 | shouldn't be impossible to migrate them all | |
| 20:45 | pianohackr|work | doing some of that myself |
| 20:45 | sekjal | pleasant? probably not |
| 20:46 | wizzyrea | sekjal-- yea, it's nearly unmanageable the way it is now |
| 20:46 | but we have some gorgeous sites on the project | |
| 20:46 | www.hiawathalibrary.org | |
| 20:47 | lol | |
| 20:47 | sigh | |
| 20:47 | pianohackr|work | that there's the purtiest error message I ever did see |
| 20:48 | wizzyrea | heh |
| 20:48 | indeed | |
| 20:50 | ok NOW it's working | |
| 20:50 | 3 years, and that's the first time I've had THAT happen. sheesh. | |
| 20:51 | natch at 4pm on a friday afternoon | |
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| 20:52 | pianohackr|wor1 | that is nice |
| 20:56 | wizzyrea | www.bonnerlibrary.org |
| 20:56 | also a good one | |
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| 21:02 | Ropuch | Flue information is... cute ;> |
| 21:04 | hdl_laptop | later tell ricardo here is my results from my import of your data http://imagebin.ca/view/yHRrkK82.html |
| 21:04 | @later tell ricardo here is my results from my import of your data http://imagebin.ca/view/yHRrkK82.html | |
| 21:04 | munin | hdl_laptop: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:05 | hdl_laptop | @later tell ricardo you can see it is ok on my box |
| 21:05 | munin | hdl_laptop: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:05 | hdl_laptop | @later tell ricardo i used 3.0.x with your command |
| 21:05 | munin | hdl_laptop: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:05 | hdl_laptop | @later tell ricardo could be a problem in your systempreferences |
| 21:05 | munin | hdl_laptop: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:06 | hdl_laptop | @later tell ricardo or the fact your code is not uptodate |
| 21:06 | munin | hdl_laptop: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:10 | sekjal | yargh. wish I could hold off making payments until Koha 3.2 drops.... this is proving quite frustrating |
| 21:13 | I'll look at it more tomorrow | |
| 21:13 | time for the train | |
| 21:13 | pianohackr|wor1 | see ya |
| 21:13 | pianohackr|wor1 is now known as pianohackr|work | |
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| 21:25 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
| 21:25 | munin | wizzyrea: Quote #31: "<@gmcharlt> but hacking Koha *should* be a restful part of any vacation ;)" (added by chris at 11:31 PM, September 02, 2009) |
| 21:26 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 21:26 | @quote random | |
| 21:26 | munin | wizzyrea: Quote #16: "< wizzyrea> i mean, the point of american bacon is to erm, use the belly of the hog (I think)" (added by chris at 09:37 PM, July 17, 2009) |
| 21:26 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
| 21:26 | munin | wizzyrea: Quote #37: "< nelsonf> I'm pretty sure I deleted this one in the name of being thorough..." (added by chris at 11:27 PM, October 04, 2009) |
| 21:26 | wizzyrea | oof |
| 21:26 | @quote random | |
| 21:26 | munin | wizzyrea: Quote #2: "<jwagner> Hope springs eternal in little kitty hearts. Better watch the doors :-)" (added by gmcharlt at 04:04 PM, June 03, 2009) |
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| 21:57 | * chris_n2-away | thinks wizzyrea holds the record on quotes ;-) |
| 22:56 | pianohackr|work | see you all tomorrow |
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