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| 06:03 | Ropuch | Morning |
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| 08:12 | Ropuch | Anybody using amicus z3950 server? I have trouble with encoding |
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| 11:00 | hdl_laptop | Ropuch: have you tried iso 5426 or iso 6937 as charsets ? |
| 11:05 | Ropuch | Tried all - seems that sometimes there's same record in different encodings at time |
| 11:06 | In the end i've chosen marc-8 and it seems ok | |
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| 11:42 | CGI691 | just installed 3.2 and I can't add a new user |
| 11:42 | I get the error This patron does not exist. | |
| 11:43 | found this message: http://lists.koha.org/pipermai[…]March/009248.html | |
| 11:45 | kf | did you set up patron categories? |
| 11:45 | CGI691 | yes |
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| 11:47 | CGI691 | so anyone who is running this version? |
| 11:47 | and it works? | |
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| 11:48 | kf | hm, I have only a patched version, not a new installation and its not up to date :( |
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| 11:49 | CGI691 | what version of koha works? |
| 11:49 | kf | the message sounds strange. what where your steps to add the patron? |
| 11:50 | CGI691 | went to patrons, clicked new, selected category, filled out form, saved |
| 11:50 | it reloads page /cgi-bin/koha/members/moremember.pl?borrowernumber=0 | |
| 11:50 | kf | a stable 3.0.3 would sure work, 3.2 is not released yet |
| 11:50 | CGI691 | with error This patron does not exist. |
| 11:50 | Ropuch | CGI691: i sugest trying 3.0.3 |
| 11:50 | CGI691 | ? |
| 11:50 | where is 3.0.3? | |
| 11:51 | kf | you can download it from git.koha.org, look at section tags |
| 11:51 | Ropuch | http://download.koha.org/koha-3.00.03.tar.gz |
| 11:51 | Or here | |
| 11:51 | CGI691 | ok |
| 11:51 | kf | :) |
| 11:51 | CGI691 | i'll try that |
| 11:52 | was 3.0.2 stable? | |
| 11:52 | Ropuch | Quite' |
| 11:52 | kf | quite... is right |
| 11:52 | CGI691 | it seems not :) |
| 11:52 | kf | there was a problem with requests in opac I know of |
| 11:52 | there will soon be a 3.0.4 | |
| 11:52 | but you can easily upgrade | |
| 11:52 | Ropuch | My library is working with 3.02 |
| 11:52 | kf | 3.0.2 or 3.2? |
| 11:53 | CGI691 | seems like creating patrons is a basic function :) |
| 11:53 | 3.0.2 is what I tried, sorry, I misspoke earlier | |
| 11:53 | Ropuch | 3.00.02 |
| 11:53 | CGI691 | yes |
| 11:54 | Ropuch | It's working just fine, but i remeber some problems with adding new patrons though |
| 11:54 | kf | 3.0.3 is there for some time now, I think it should work |
| 11:56 | CGI691 | I did: git checkout -b v3.00.03 |
| 11:57 | first git checkout v3.00.03 | |
| 11:57 | is that correct for an upgrade? | |
| 11:58 | kf | sorry, I know just a few git commands |
| 11:59 | dont know how to do this with git | |
| 11:59 | CGI691 | kohaversion.pl still shows 3.00.02.012 |
| 11:59 | it appears the tag is done incorrectly? | |
| 11:59 | kf | where did you check the version? |
| 12:00 | I think if it worked you should get the web installer when logging into git, so that database will be updated | |
| 12:00 | Ropuch | CGI691: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]lopment:git_usage |
| 12:00 | CGI691 | I'm quite familiar with git |
| 12:00 | Ropuch | Oh, so forget I've pasted the link ;> |
| 12:01 | CGI691 | but it appears your git tag is done wrong |
| 12:01 | even in git.koha.org you can see it | |
| 12:01 | Ropuch | I know nothing about git :) |
| 12:02 | CGI691 | is kohaversion.pl what it says it is? |
| 12:02 | because your 3.00.02.012 tag has kohaversion of 3.00.02.012 | |
| 12:02 | oops, the 3.00.03 tag I mean | |
| 12:03 | Ropuch | Hm, you can always post a message on koha-devel if you think something is not right with the git |
| 12:03 | CGI691 | has kohaversion of 3.00.02.012 |
| 12:03 | srsly | |
| 12:03 | Ropuch | Yes |
| 12:03 | 3.00.02.012 | |
| 12:03 | Have the same | |
| 12:04 | CGI691 | well I did upgrade and the new patron still doesnt work |
| 12:04 | Ropuch | It's confusing, really, as I was sure i have 3.00.3 on this machine |
| 12:04 | Any error in koha-error_log/ | |
| 12:04 | ? | |
| 12:04 | CGI691 | anyone who started with 3.00.3 fresh install? because it doesnt work :) |
| 12:05 | http://lists.koha.org/pipermai[…]March/009254.html | |
| 12:05 | this was reported in March it appears | |
| 12:05 | Ropuch | I can always sent my members-home.pl and memberentry.pl |
| 12:06 | CGI691 | ? |
| 12:07 | Ropuch | I can sent you those files (with C4\Members, maybe) - you can always try to switch them, worked for me few times ;> |
| 12:07 | CGI691 | is that the normal install procedure for Koha? :) |
| 12:08 | Ropuch | switching files? I don't think so :) |
| 12:08 | bbl | |
| 12:08 | CGI691 | anyone who runs 3.00.3 or tests it as a new install? sounds like you aren't running that version |
| 12:09 | kf | no |
| 12:09 | CGI691 | kf: no? |
| 12:09 | kf | I have only "3.2" installations for testing now, earlier I had 3.0.0 patched to the next stable version |
| 12:09 | CGI691 | you mean you dont run 3.00.3 |
| 12:09 | kf | adding patrons was never a problem sof ar |
| 12:10 | CGI691 | well, in case anyone else asks, 3.00.2 adn 3.00.3 cant add new patrons when installed from scratch :) |
| 12:11 | Ropuch | I don't have that problem either |
| 12:11 | CGI691 | did you install 3.00.3 from scratch? |
| 12:11 | Ropuch | Just checked: it was a fresh 3.003 install on new virtual machine |
| 12:12 | CGI691 | also, it was reported in March here : http://lists.koha.org/pipermai[…]March/009254.html |
| 12:12 | Ropuch | You have patron categories defined/ |
| 12:12 | CGI691 | yes, I have patron categories |
| 12:13 | kf | was my first question ,) |
| 12:13 | ;) | |
| 12:13 | Ropuch | As ordinary user all I can do is send files i've mentioned above for you to switch & test it |
| 12:13 | kf: ooops ;> | |
| 12:13 | kf | hm, perhaps git can help |
| 12:13 | Ropuch | maybe |
| 12:14 | Ok, bbl | |
| 12:14 | kf | lets check recent changes too memberentry.pl |
| 12:16 | ok.. I thought perhaps there was a patch of something, but if there is I dont recognize it | |
| 12:17 | CGI691 | kf can you try a fresh install of 3.00.3 to see if you also have same problem? |
| 12:17 | kf | perhaps check if table borrower was correctly created |
| 12:17 | sorry no | |
| 12:17 | I have no access to our servers here at work | |
| 12:17 | and should be working on my presentation, came in for that today | |
| 12:20 | table borrowers | |
| 12:21 | CGI691 | well, it looks the same as the kohastructure.sql file, which appears to be the right one |
| 12:21 | that the install process uses | |
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| 12:32 | kf | it would be good to add a bug report |
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| 13:38 | kf | owen around? |
| 13:47 | @seen owen | |
| 13:47 | munin` | kf: owen was last seen in #koha 17 hours, 28 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <owen> That's why it's ridiculous to say that Koha development is only driven by developers. It ignores those of us who are librarian *and* developer |
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| 16:54 | pianohackr|work | Hi, liz |
| 17:02 | chris_n2-away is now known as chris_n^2 | |
| 17:02 | chris_n^2 | hey pianohacker|work |
| 17:02 | mighty quiet in here today | |
| 17:02 | * chris_n^2 | bangs a virtual pot |
| 17:03 | Ropuch | ;> |
| 17:03 | pianohackr|work | *bang* *bang* *bang* |
| 17:03 | How are you, chris_n² | |
| 17:03 | ? | |
| 17:03 | Also Ropuch | |
| 17:03 | chris_n^2 | well, spent the morning hunting w/my son |
| 17:03 | Ropuch | Quite good, actually |
| 17:04 | chris_n^2 | and just ate lunch |
| 17:04 | pianohackr|work | chris_n^2: ah |
| 17:04 | chris_n^2 | now I'll go dig a row of yams |
| 17:04 | sweet potatoes | |
| 17:04 | pianohackr|work | s/yams/sweet potatoes/g |
| 17:04 | chris_n^2 | hi Ropuch |
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| 17:05 | Ropuch | hello chris_n^2 |
| 17:05 | chris_n^2 | the farmer who leases some land from my father-in-law raises sweet potatoes and has left a (very) long row for us |
| 17:06 | pianohackr|work | How do homegrown sweet potatoes compare to storebought? |
| 17:06 | Ropuch | I've never had a chance to eat one of those |
| 17:06 | chris_n^2 | they are on the order of magnitudes better |
| 17:06 | pianohackr|work | (Have been eating homegrown tomatoes this summer, will be tough to go back to cardboard and food coloring this winter...) |
| 17:06 | Ooh | |
| 17:07 | Have you done candied yams with them yet? | |
| 17:07 | chris_n^2 | no, but will this week for sure |
| 17:08 | we also have a recipe to do them backed w/butter and brown-sugar | |
| 17:08 | baked even | |
| 17:08 | Ropuch: you are missing a real treat ;-) | |
| 17:08 | pianohackr|work | Hrm, now I'm hungry |
| 17:08 | That sounds pretty incredible | |
| 17:09 | chris_n^2 | do you have yams/sweet potatoes in Poland? |
| 17:09 | Ropuch | Hm, i believe so, it;s called batat |
| 17:09 | chris_n^2 | they are actually a tuber and not a potatoe at all |
| 17:10 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yam_%28vegetable%29 | |
| 17:11 | actually: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_potato | |
| 17:11 | "In the U.S., North Carolina, the leading state in sweet potato production, provided 38.5% of the 2007 U.S. production of sweet potatoes." | |
| 17:11 | Ropuch | Ipomoea batatas - that's it [; |
| 17:11 | * chris_n^2 | lives in North Carolina |
| 17:13 | chris_n^2 | french fried sweet potatoes are good also |
| 17:13 | pianohackr|work | Yup |
| 17:14 | Ropuch | Hmm, I think I'll give them a try, although the "sweet" part does not convince me ;> |
| 17:14 | pianohackr|work | They're not, really |
| 17:14 | They go well in sweet dishes though | |
| 17:14 | Wizzyrea_ | omg, sweet potato fries |
| 17:14 | pianohackr|work | candied yams, or sweet potato pie |
| 17:14 | Wizzyrea_ | *swoon* |
| 17:15 | pianohackr|work | Wizzyrea_: A restaurant here in florence, co, serves them |
| 17:15 | chris_n^2 | Ropuch: they do require additional sweetening to be good, imho |
| 17:15 | Ropuch | Sweet potato aka not-realy-sweet tuber ;> |
| 17:15 | Wizzyrea_ | we have a few places here that serve them |
| 17:15 | * chris_n^2 | fans Wizzyrea |
| 17:15 | Wizzyrea_ | HEHE |
| 17:15 | * pianohackr|work | grabs a palm frond |
| 17:15 | Wizzyrea_ | ...wow |
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| 17:16 | chris_n^2 | Ropuch: use plenty of brown-sugar and butter the first time and modify to taste from there |
| 17:16 | Wizzyrea_ | in 1.5 hrs I get to go drive a formula 1 race car around the kansas speedway |
| 17:16 | up to 165MPH | |
| 17:16 | pianohackr|work | O_o |
| 17:16 | * chris_n^2 | covets Wizzyrea_ now |
| 17:16 | Wizzyrea_ | :D |
| 17:17 | it was my birthday present from my sweet hubby | |
| 17:17 | chris_n^2 | last time I had a car over 100mph, I saw blue lights flashing |
| 17:17 | pianohackr|work | hehe |
| 17:17 | Wizzyrea_ | ^.^ |
| 17:17 | pianohackr|work | wizzyreas_husband++ |
| 17:17 | Wizzyrea_ | wizzyreas_husband++ |
| 17:17 | I can't wait it's going to be fun | |
| 17:18 | chris_n^2 | whereabouts in KS? |
| 17:18 | Wizzyrea_ | Kansas City KS |
| 17:19 | chris_n^2 | my dad was born in Viola, KS |
| 17:20 | Wizzyrea_ | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=[…]&t=h&z=16&iwloc=A |
| 17:20 | wow small world | |
| 17:20 | pianohackr|work | Hmm. What's that small building to the southeast? |
| 17:21 | Wizzyrea_ | not sure, honestly i'm not really a nascar fan... I just want to drive fast :P |
| 17:22 | pianohackr|work | Hahahaha |
| 17:22 | Wizzyrea_ | will be my first time to the ks speedway |
| 17:22 | ^.^ | |
| 17:22 | * chris_n^2 | has to run off |
| 17:22 | chris_n^2 | have a great time Wizzyrea_ |
| 17:23 | pianohackr|work | see ya, have a good day chris_n |
| 17:23 | Wizzyrea_ | thanks chris_n, I will |
| 17:23 | chris_n^2 | bye all |
| 17:23 | chris_n^2 is now known as chris_n2-away | |
| 17:23 | Wizzyrea_ | full report later ;) |
| 17:23 | Ropuch | Bye |
| 17:23 | Wizzyrea_ | later12 |
| 17:23 | ! | |
| 17:24 | pianohackr|work | Ropuch: I've seen you at some of the meetings, but I'm not sure I've introduced myself |
| 17:24 | I'm Jesse Weaver, a koha geek | |
| 17:29 | Ropuch | pianohackr|work: I'm Piotr Wejman, open source fan and koha user |
| 17:30 | But I'm sure we've never met | |
| 17:30 | pianohackr|work | You also take care of the Polish translation, right? |
| 17:30 | Ropuch | From a two week or so |
| 17:30 | ;> | |
| 17:30 | pianohackr|work | For the last two weeks? |
| 17:31 | Ropuch | Maybe you mean Benedykt Barszcz |
| 17:31 | pianohackr|work | Maybe |
| 17:31 | Sorry, good to meet you anyways :) | |
| 17:32 | Ropuch | pianohackr|work: I've been wroking on translation for some time, but week or two weeks ago chris made administrator of polish translation for 3.x |
| 17:32 | pianohackr|work | Ah |
| 17:32 | Ropuch | pianohackr|work: nice to meet you too [; |
| 17:33 | I'm gathering informations about polish koha user, but there aren't plenty of them | |
| 17:33 | And the ones I know of are using some 2.2 fork with hardcoded translations | |
| 17:35 | pianohackr|work | ouch |
| 17:43 | Ropuch | Yep |
| 17:43 | Waiting for replies from 3 more libraries | |
| 17:46 | although I don't need polish intranet, I think I'll translate it. Without it no library will ever consider using koha | |
| 17:47 | pianohackr|work | Yup, will help |
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| 19:08 | chris | morning all |
| 19:08 | pianohackr|work | Good morning, chris |
| 19:08 | * chris | is getting ready to go to sofware freedom day |
| 19:09 | chris | http://softwarefreedomday.org.nz/Schedule |
| 19:11 | chris_n2-away is now known as chris_n^2 | |
| 19:11 | * chris_n^2 | returns with an half wagon load of sweet potatoes |
| 19:11 | chris_n^2 | hi chris |
| 19:11 | software freedom++ | |
| 19:23 | cait_laptop | good morning |
| 19:47 | hdl_laptop | chris : any new patches on 3.0.x ? |
| 19:47 | pianohackr|work | Good morning, cait |
| 19:52 | chris_n^2 | hello hdl, cait |
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| 20:09 | chris_n^2 | hrmm... it appears that current code generates mod43 checksums for mod10 code39 barcode |
| 20:09 | hdl_laptop | chris around ? |
| 20:10 | * chris_n^2 | wonders if anyone is even using code39 w/checksums |
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| 20:17 | chris_n^2 | actually current code generates code39 w/ mod9 |
| 20:17 | :-P | |
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| 20:25 | thd-away is now known as thd | |
| 20:27 | thd | chris_n^2: would you use code39 symbology without checksums? |
| 20:28 | chris_n^2 | thd: current code allows three methods: code39 w/no checksum, code39mod10, code39mod43 (which is standard for code39) |
| 20:29 | in reality both selections which include checksums currently produce code39mod9 | |
| 20:29 | thd | chris_n^2: Now I am doubting. I wrote an application to use it a few years ago |
| 20:29 | * thd | checking |
| 20:29 | chris_n^2 | the 'visa' method produces modulo 9 |
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| 20:31 | thd | Now I remember |
| 20:31 | Checksums are optional for code39 and I had not used them | |
| 20:32 | You do need the start and stop charcters | |
| 20:32 | chris_n^2 | it appears that anyone thinking they were getting code39 mod10 or 43 were really getting mod9 |
| 20:32 | thd | :) |
| 20:33 | chris_n^2 | it probably only matters if you try scanning them with applications expecting mod10 or 43 :-S |
| 20:33 | thd | The start and stop characters are asterisks which makes it very simple to implement |
| 20:33 | Definitely you need what the application expects. | |
| 20:34 | chris_n^2 | the library here uses code39 w/no checksums |
| 20:34 | thd | chris_n^2: Had you expressed interest in the SFLC? |
| 20:34 | chris_n^2 | yes |
| 20:35 | it is second to HLT on my own list | |
| 20:35 | thd | chris_n^2: I think that they could and should serve as legal council for any choice. |
| 20:36 | chris_n^2 | thd: they are wholly dedicated to FOSS from the legal/business standpoint which is very impressive |
| 20:37 | thd: I agree on that point | |
| 20:37 | thd | chris_n^2: I am less confident about the conservancy but I know the people involved somewhat. Others do not know them and they may have less confidence. |
| 20:38 | chris_n^2: SFLC invented Software Freedom Day | |
| 20:38 | ... at least that is my understanding. | |
| 20:38 | They are the cosponsors where I am in New York City. | |
| 20:39 | I am going to obtain more information about the conservancy etc. this evening. | |
| 20:39 | chris_n^2 | thd: I was impressed with the info on their website |
| 20:39 | Samba is under them | |
| 20:40 | and wine | |
| 20:40 | thd | They are council for FSF and founded by FSF legal council. |
| 20:40 | chris_n^2 | They are very clear on minimal interference in the projects under them |
| 20:41 | and the cost of membership can't be beat | |
| 20:41 | thd | Did you see what I wrote about them on the wiki? |
| 20:41 | chris_n^2 | I missed that |
| 20:42 | thd | Do you know what the page is? |
| 20:42 | * thd | checks |
| 20:42 | chris_n^2 | I added them to the chart here: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]aheldbyfoundation |
| 20:46 | thd | Do you know where the text page with similar content is? |
| 20:47 | pianohackr|work | thd: did you add this? http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]eedom_conservancy |
| 20:48 | thd | yes pianohackr|work found it. |
| 20:50 | chris_n^2: The drawback that the conservancy has of controlling member assets is the same as I suspect it would be for HLT | |
| 20:50 | s/conservancy/Conservancy/ | |
| 20:51 | chris_n^2 | *nod* |
| 20:52 | thd | chris_n^2: Some of the text content from the page which pianohackr|work found should be incorporated into the chart and the other way around. |
| 20:52 | We need a wiki page which links to whatever there is about the issue, the wiki is a mess for finding things. | |
| 20:53 | * chris_n^2 | agrees with that |
| 20:54 | thd | The page to which I added what I wrote about the Conservancy and indirectly SFLC was the one linked from the meeting agenda. |
| 20:54 | I did try to raise SFLC in the meeting as a discussion topic but I was not forceful about it. | |
| 20:55 | I had missed the beginning of the meeting when I could not access an X-windows session. | |
| 20:55 | chris_n^2 | I really wish SFLC had made it onto the first poll nengard created as it seems much more relevant than IFLA |
| 20:56 | thd: I missed that totally in the meeting, sorry | |
| 20:56 | IFLA does not have any mechanism in place to provide anything relevant to koha's needs afaict | |
| 20:57 | thd | All the organisations have merits for status as an additional affiliation. |
| 20:57 | chris_n^2: I do not think that it matters much about the interim choice. | |
| 20:58 | NZ is safest for issues involving Koha trademark use. | |
| 20:58 | chris_n^2 | thd: it would not be hard, I suspect, to gain control of the Koha tm in the US in any case if that is what the community desired |
| 21:00 | thd | As long as you are nice to the Mauri then you cannot have problems about using words which are part of an official language. |
| 21:00 | chris_n^2 | hdl_laptop about? |
| 21:00 | hdl_laptop | yes |
| 21:01 | chris_n^2 | hdl_laptop: that patch I submitted for bug 3649 should be ported to 3.0.x as soon as possible as it is a rather serious bug for anyone using code39 mod10 or mod43 barcodes |
| 21:01 | munin` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3649 blocker, P5, ---, cnighswongerfoundations.edu, ASSIGNED, Code39 Mod10 and Mod43 barcodes are produced with Mod9 checksums |
| 21:02 | * chris_n^2 | does not know if many are using those formats |
| 21:02 | hdl_laptop | Do you have commit id ? |
| 21:02 | chris_n^2 | cf523d10949c4d354cd06f88437316f530ac87f6 |
| 21:02 | thd | chris_n^2: I think we should be coaxing LibLime as I am trying to do quietly rather than pushing them further away over trademarks and such. |
| 21:03 | chris_n^2 | thd: I agree that it would be best for everyone if LL were to voluntarily fulfill their own promises to the community |
| 21:04 | I suspect the matter will finally be one for whatever organization emerges to address | |
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| 21:05 | chris_n^2 | thd: I enjoyed the discussion... it gives me more food for thought |
| 21:05 | gotta run, bbl | |
| 21:05 | thd | chris_n^2: However unlikely it may be given the current state, I am hoping that kados finds something to use in a proposal which I have put to him. |
| 21:05 | chris_n^2 | thd: I truly hope you are successful in that regard |
| 21:06 | I really wish Josh would just straighten up, apologize, and get back to work inside the community | |
| 21:07 | * chris_n^2 | heads out |
| 21:07 | chris_n^2 is now known as chris_n2-away | |
| 21:20 | thd is now known as thd-away | |
| 21:23 | * chris | clocks in from SFD |
| 21:23 | pianohackr|work | How was it? |
| 21:24 | chris | just about to start :) |
| 21:24 | we are just about to do the barcamp planning | |
| 21:25 | pianohackr|work | Ah. |
| 21:25 | That's what you meant by clocked in :) | |
| 21:26 | chris | yep |
| 21:28 | hdl_laptop: i have been pushing language changes up into 3.0.x | |
| 21:28 | (i can with gitosis) | |
| 21:29 | * chris | puts the laptop away for a bit |
| 21:54 | chris_n2-away | hdl_laptop: on second look, it appears that only Code39 Mod10 is incorrect in the 3.0.x branch so only that part of the commit mentioned needs to be applied |
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