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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 01:16 | chris | @gcalc 120kmph in mph |
| 01:16 | munin | chris: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything. |
| 01:16 | chris | @gcalc 120km in miles |
| 01:17 | munin | chris: 120 kilometers = 74.5645431 miles |
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| 01:55 | chris_n2-away | @gcalc 7688.92 miles in kilometers |
| 01:55 | munin | chris_n2-away: 7 688.92 miles = 12 374.1173 kilometers |
| 01:56 | * chris_n2-away | realizes that the ISS could cross the USA in ~1/2 sec |
| 01:56 | chris | :) |
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| 02:01 | brendan | done traveling for the night :) |
| 02:12 | gmcharlt | brendan: good flight? |
| 02:12 | chris_n2-away | @random quote |
| 02:12 | munin | chris_n2-away: Error: The command "random" is available in the Dict, Factoids, and Quote plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "random". |
| 02:13 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 02:13 | brendan | ok flight -- lot's of turbulence |
| 02:13 | munin | gmcharlt: Quote #6: "gmcharlt: kf: hold requests are a plot to sell more aspirin ;)" (added by wizzyrea at 04:13 PM, June 16, 2009) |
| 02:13 | chris_n2-away | @random factoid |
| 02:13 | munin | chris_n2-away: Error: The command "random" is available in the Dict, Factoids, and Quote plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "random". |
| 02:13 | chris_n2-away | opps |
| 02:13 | @factoid random | |
| 02:13 | munin | chris_n2-away: downloading the Perl source |
| 02:13 | chris_n2-away | hrmm |
| 02:13 | gmcharlt | @help Factoid |
| 02:13 | munin | gmcharlt: Error: There is no command "factoid". |
| 02:13 | gmcharlt | @list Factoid |
| 02:13 | munin | gmcharlt: Error: 'Factoid' is not a valid plugin. |
| 02:13 | gmcharlt | @list Factoids |
| 02:13 | munin | gmcharlt: change, forget, info, learn, lock, random, search, unlock, and whatis |
| 02:14 | chris_n2-away | ahh |
| 02:14 | gmcharlt | @random |
| 02:14 | munin | gmcharlt: Error: The command "random" is available in the Dict, Factoids, and Quote plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "random". |
| 02:14 | chris_n2-away | @factoids random |
| 02:14 | gmcharlt | @random Factoid |
| 02:14 | munin | chris_n2-away: Error: I couldn't find a factoid. |
| 02:14 | gmcharlt: Error: The command "random" is available in the Dict, Factoids, and Quote plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "random". | |
| 02:15 | gmcharlt | @help info |
| 02:16 | munin | gmcharlt: (info [<channel>] <key>) -- Gives information about the factoid(s) associated with <key>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. |
| 02:16 | gmcharlt | info koha |
| 02:16 | @info koha | |
| 02:16 | munin | gmcharlt: Error: No factoid matches that key. |
| 02:16 | chris_n2-away | hehe |
| 02:16 | gmcharlt | @learn koha http://www.koha.org/ |
| 02:16 | munin | gmcharlt: (learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value. |
| 02:16 | chris_n2-away | @gcalc speed of light in furlongs per fortnight |
| 02:16 | munin | chris_n2-away: the speed of light = 1.8026175 * 10^(12) furlongs per fortnight |
| 02:16 | gmcharlt | @learn koha as http://www.koha.org/ |
| 02:16 | munin | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:16 | gmcharlt | @info koha |
| 02:16 | munin | gmcharlt: Key "koha" is not locked and has 1 factoid associated with it: #1 was added by gmcharlt at 02:16 AM, August 31, 2009 |
| 02:16 | gmcharlt | @factoid random |
| 02:16 | munin | gmcharlt: I suck |
| 02:16 | gmcharlt | @whatis koha |
| 02:16 | munin | gmcharlt: "koha" could be http://www.koha.org/ |
| 02:17 | chris_n2-away | s/factoid/factoids/ |
| 02:17 | gmcharlt | @factoids random |
| 02:17 | munin | gmcharlt: "koha": http://www.koha.org/ |
| 02:17 | gmcharlt | heh |
| 02:17 | g'night, all | |
| 02:17 | chris_n2-away | @factoids learn the speed of light = 1.8026175 * 10^(12) furlongs per fortnight |
| 02:17 | munin | chris_n2-away: (factoids learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value. |
| 02:17 | gmcharlt | @later tell hdl_laptop back only middle of Monday US EDT |
| 02:17 | munin | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:17 | chris_n2-away | g'night gmcharlt |
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| 02:19 | chris_n2-away | @factoids learn light-speed as 1.8026175 * 10^(12) furlongs per fortnight |
| 02:19 | munin | chris_n2-away: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:19 | chris_n2-away | @factoids random |
| 02:19 | munin | chris_n2-away: "light-speed": 1.8026175 * 10^(12) furlongs per fortnight; "koha": http://www.koha.org/ |
| 02:19 | chris_n2-away | @whatis light-speed |
| 02:19 | munin | chris_n2-away: "light-speed" could be 1.8026175 * 10^(12) furlongs per fortnight |
| 02:20 | * chris_n2-away | heads to off to a sleep cycle |
| 02:21 | chris_n2-away | one more for the record.... |
| 02:21 | @gcalc 35 miles per gallon in rods per cup | |
| 02:21 | munin | chris_n2-away: 35 miles per gallon = 700 rods per US cup |
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| 03:06 | bigbrovar_ | Hi guys am really new to koha (or in fact any library system) helping to setup one for my school's library. I have everything setup and running now ( koha 3.0). before i installed koha, the library kept a record of their books in openoffice spreadsheets..its a PITA slow process but over time there have a huge collection now (we have small library) i was wondering if its possible to import this spreedsheet to koha.. of do they have to import the books one by |
| 03:06 | (real koha / library system noob here) | |
| 03:07 | pianohacker | Hmm. If you export the spreadsheet as CSV |
| 03:07 | There are import tools | |
| 03:07 | MarcEdit is what you want | |
| 03:07 | (runs under Wine) | |
| 03:16 | bigbrovar_ | hmm |
| 03:17 | Marcedit ? | |
| 03:17 | will google it | |
| 03:18 | thnx .. how is your day going btw (4:17am here .. raining as hell) | |
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| 07:31 | chris | and we are back |
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| 07:34 | SelfishMan | heh |
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| 07:35 | SelfishMan | Any reason this channel isn't on one of the bigger networks like OFTC? |
| 07:35 | kf | good morning |
| 07:35 | hdl_laptop | SelfishMan: History |
| 07:35 | SelfishMan | ? |
| 07:36 | good or bad? | |
| 07:36 | hdl_laptop | there are pros and cons on either side |
| 07:36 | SelfishMan | true |
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| 07:44 | chris | its been on here since 2000 |
| 07:44 | nahuel | hi all |
| 07:44 | :) | |
| 07:44 | chris | hasnt been a compelling reason to move it |
| 07:47 | hi nahuel | |
| 07:48 | nahuel | what's up ? |
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| 07:52 | chris | not the usual ... what's up with you? |
| 07:52 | hmm just the usual i mean | |
| 07:52 | hi paul_p | |
| 07:55 | paul_p | hi chris |
| 08:01 | hdl_laptop | chris: nahuel was asking about the #koha problem |
| 08:01 | i think | |
| 08:02 | nahuel | Why don't we go to freenode ? |
| 08:02 | chris | why? |
| 08:02 | nahuel | More stable :) |
| 08:02 | more generic | |
| 08:02 | chris | hehe |
| 08:02 | less stable | |
| 08:02 | but more generic | |
| 08:03 | nahuel | less stable ? |
| 08:03 | chris | irc.katipo.co.nz has been running for 12 years |
| 08:03 | nahuel | with downtimes :) |
| 08:03 | chris | with very very few outages |
| 08:03 | less than freenode | |
| 08:04 | nahuel | hmmm, as I know biblibre and koha-fr gone to freenode because when I arrived at biblibre, there was lots of downtime |
| 08:04 | "there were" | |
| 08:04 | was were ... anyway :p | |
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| 08:06 | chris | oftc might be an option |
| 08:06 | speciallyf if we were to join SPI also | |
| 08:06 | nahuel | Well, it's just an idea :) |
| 08:06 | SPI ? what's that ? | |
| 08:08 | chris | http://www.spi-inc.org/ |
| 08:08 | http://www.spi-inc.org/projects | |
| 08:10 | nahuel | ho great |
| 08:11 | chris | http://www.oftc.net/oftc/ |
| 08:13 | nahuel | :) |
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| 08:16 | Amit | hi chris, brendan |
| 08:17 | chris | hi Amit |
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| 08:19 | |Lupin| | good morning, everybody |
| 08:19 | guten morgen kf | |
| 08:20 | kf | guten morgen lupin |
| 08:24 | Amit | hi lupin, kf |
| 08:28 | kf | hi Amit |
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| 09:16 | bigbrovar | . |
| 09:16 | |Lupin| | hello Amit |
| 09:17 | bigbrovar | hello guys |
| 09:17 | Amit | any one experience with biblios.net |
| 09:18 | hdl_laptop | Amit: it seems that you should drop a message to koha-devel or to biblios.net forum ;) |
| 09:18 | Amit | hdl: i have done but stuck on plugin |
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| 09:31 | chris | for anyone who uses identica http://identi.ca/group/koha |
| 09:35 | bigbrovar | chris: might want to add the koha logo :) |
| 09:36 | chris | yep have done |
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| 11:56 | chris | morning ptfs |
| 11:56 | Amit | hi jdavidb |
| 11:57 | jdavidb | Howdy, chris and Amit. :) |
| 11:57 | chris | must mean its time for me to go to sleep |
| 11:57 | g'night all | |
| 11:57 | jdavidb | Probably so, yeah. |
| 11:57 | g'night, chris. Sleep well! | |
| 12:03 | jwagner | morning/g'night chris |
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| 12:09 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
| 12:09 | munin | chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 22.0�C (8:02 AM EDT on August 31, 2009). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:10 | chris_n | how very mondayish |
| 12:10 | g'morning | |
| 12:11 | jdavidb | Morning, chris_n. |
| 12:14 | paul_p | hello USA ! good morning ! |
| 12:15 | jwagner | Bonjour paul_p |
| 12:15 | chris_n | hi paul_p |
| 12:19 | jdavidb | Hi, paul_p! :) |
| 12:19 | chris_n | m$-- |
| 12:20 | * chris_n | thinks win32 fails silently too often >:-( |
| 12:21 | * jdavidb | thinks win32 fails too often, period. |
| 12:21 | Amit left #koha | |
| 12:21 | chris_n | that too |
| 12:25 | paul_p | shortest version: /me thinks win32 fails |
| 12:25 | :D | |
| 12:28 | * chris_n | notes how easy it is to break a window to start with |
| 12:28 | chris_n | what a name to choose for an os |
| 12:39 | interesting post from eIFL.net | |
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| 12:47 | kf | gmcharlt: online? |
| 12:49 | jwagner is now known as jwagner_away | |
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| 13:17 | schuster | Morning everyone! |
| 13:23 | owen | Hi schuster |
| 13:25 | jdavidb | Hi, schuster. :) |
| 13:49 | schuster | Joe Atzberger around? |
| 13:54 | owen | schuster: he goes by atz, so it doesn't look like it |
| 13:56 | chris_n | @factoids random |
| 13:56 | munin | chris_n: "light-speed": 1.8026175 * 10^(12) furlongs per fortnight; "koha": http://www.koha.org/ |
| 13:56 | chris_n | @quote random |
| 13:56 | munin | chris_n: Quote #3: "< bignose-work> the only constant in climate over the next several decades will be that the climate doesn't match what you just got used to." (added by chris at 01:55 AM, June 12, 2009) |
| 13:56 | chris_n | heh |
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| 14:02 | jdavidb | @quote random |
| 14:02 | munin | jdavidb: Quote #22: "<jdavidb> owen: you wouldn't know this, being the skinny thing you are, but it is also good for maintaining a panoramic physique, like mine." (added by gmcharlt at 04:24 PM, August 06, 2009) |
| 14:02 | jdavidb | lol |
| 14:08 | owen | schuster++ for KohaCon videos! |
| 14:10 | schuster | http://www.archive.org/details/Kohacon09Marcedit - I got these uploaded this weekend. |
| 14:11 | http://www.archive.org/details[…]lWithJoeAtzberger | |
| 14:11 | I'm waiting for some tapes to be returned to me so that I can do the rest. | |
| 14:11 | I'll get them posted on the wiki and an email to Discuss hopefully today. | |
| 14:11 | jdavidb | schuster++ |
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| 14:17 | owen | Coming to us from Atlanta, brendan? |
| 14:18 | brendan | coming to you from Atlanta |
| 14:18 | morning owen | |
| 14:19 | hdl_laptop | hi all |
| 14:19 | * owen | grumbles about the new "Clear screen" button on the circ page |
| 14:19 | brendan | hmmm... why's that owen? |
| 14:20 | hdl_laptop | a simple clear would have been much simpler.... I think |
| 14:20 | owen | 1. Because it's ugly. 2. Because you can click "check out" with no barcode and get the same result |
| 14:20 | brendan | I remember the clear screen button from my horizon days |
| 14:21 | wasn't sure if I used it then either | |
| 14:22 | schuster | Must be in a newer patch as I don't have that yet. |
| 14:22 | In production that is. | |
| 14:22 | owen | No schuster it was a recently approved patch |
| 14:23 | jdavidb | One of ours, I think. an East Brunsick PL idea. (ex-Horizon, sure 'nuf.) |
| 14:23 | schuster | Ah - someone indicated that several of the PTFS enhancements were in bugzilla - is there an easy way for me to find them? |
| 14:24 | jdavidb | jwagner as the filer, maybe? |
| 14:29 | * owen | should calm down about the button as it's controlled by a syspref |
| 14:31 | jdavidb | The patches we're doing--PTFS is very cognizant of the fact that EBPL is an odd library, and wants odd things. Most everything substantial we're sending, and quite a lot of the little tweaky ones, will have a syspref. |
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| 14:48 | kf | passwords in clear text is also a Horizon thing |
| 14:48 | and really odd to want that back | |
| 14:50 | jdavidb | kf: I'm with you. That's such a Spectacularly Bad Idea.... |
| 14:50 | kf | are they no privacy laws that prevent that? |
| 14:50 | they = there | |
| 14:51 | jdavidb | No, unfortunately. Not for passwords, anyway. |
| 14:51 | kf | I think our data protection officer would say thats not acceptible |
| 14:53 | jdavidb | I pitched a fit about it, but that's what they wanted. Fortunately, probably, gmcharlt is gonna throw that one in the oubliette. |
| 14:53 | (So we'll have to maintain it. But I'm okay with that.) | |
| 14:54 | * owen | submits a patch to move the clear screen button: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]hment.cgi?id=1090 |
| 14:59 | kf | owen: looks nice now :) |
| 15:08 | * owen | is picky that way |
| 15:11 | ecorrado | jdavidb: East Brunswick as in East Brunswick, NJ? |
| 15:11 | jdavidb | ecorrado: Yup. That's them. They've apparently been Horizon users a long, long time, and are pretty set in their ways. |
| 15:12 | Knowing that we're not ever gonna get Koha to be Just Like Horizon, we've managed to give them some things that made them a bit more comfortable. | |
| 15:12 | ecorrado | jdavidb: I gre up in the next town over and worked in a nearby library for a bit. I am aware of them :-). |
| 15:13 | I heard they were lookign at Koha a while back... glad to see they went that way. | |
| 15:13 | jdavidb | They're good folks, really, and want the best for their patrons. I was astonished at how much holds traffic they have; they promoted use of holds a while back, and it caught on. |
| 15:14 | 5000-ish circs a day, about 700 or so of which are holds fulfillment. It's amazing. | |
| 15:14 | ecorrado | jdavidb: I haven't been there for a while, but they were always recognized by the public as the best librry in the area. |
| 15:15 | I'm not surprised about the holds... my mom used to get them to hold the latest Steven King books before they came out and would be way down on the list. | |
| 15:16 | jdavidb | On some new popular stuff, they're getting 20 and 30 copies, and running 150+ holds in the queue. |
| 15:18 | The patrons are pretty sophisticated, too...they get twitchy about any oddities on that holds queue. | |
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| 15:20 | jdavidb | Hi, gmcharlt! |
| 15:20 | gmcharlt | hi jdavidb |
| 15:20 | schuster | gmcharlt - heya! we've been talking about you - ears burning? |
| 15:20 | (kidding sorta) | |
| 15:20 | gmcharlt | heh |
| 15:24 | so, any juicy gossip about me that I should know about? ;) | |
| 15:25 | schuster | I hear you are implementing RDA for 3.2 - :0 |
| 15:25 | gmcharlt | :) |
| 15:25 | jdavidb | No one has yet proven that you're Michael Jackson's love child, gmcharlt, but the jury is still out on that. :P And yeah, there's the RDA thing. |
| 15:25 | kf | hi gmcharlt |
| 15:26 | schuster | Are sounds still part of 3.2 circ? |
| 15:26 | kf | question: we want to try to send our first patch tomorrow - changes in xslt for detail and results to display ltr/rtl languages in 880 fields |
| 15:26 | gmcharlt | kf++ |
| 15:26 | kf | I saw that jane wagner send a patch on this file wich isnt in git yet |
| 15:27 | gmcharlt | schuster: yes, there are a couple patches floating around that will be included |
| 15:27 | kf | will this be a problem? I think we will write a bug report tomorrow - but we have a little time problem, because I will be on vacation from wednesday to wednesday |
| 15:29 | so we want to send it tomorrow (I hope I will be able to generate a patch file with git on my laptop...) | |
| 15:34 | gmcharlt: should we integrate janes changes in our file, although its not in git yet? she made xslt follow sysprefs in her patch | |
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| 15:40 | owen | Hi sekjal |
| 15:40 | sekjal | hello owen |
| 15:44 | kf | we will try and see what happens :) - good bye #koha! |
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| 16:18 | owen | Watch out gmcharlt, paul_p is cracking the whip! :) |
| 16:18 | paul_p | owen: ?? |
| 16:18 | * gmcharlt | cowers in fear |
| 16:19 | owen | "cracking the whip" meaning urging him to work harder ;) |
| 16:19 | paul_p | lol |
| 16:19 | I realize my mail may let you think i'm upset. Just to be clear : that's not the case ! ;-) | |
| 16:20 | gmcharlt | paul_p: no, it's fine |
| 16:40 | chris_n | gmcharlt: on a fresh install of 3.2 my browser says "production mode - trapped fatal error" and the logs say nothing... :-( |
| 16:40 | any thoughts? | |
| 16:41 | hold on | |
| 16:41 | never mind... | |
| 16:42 | * chris_n | has spent too many hours staring at the screen for his own good |
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| 16:42 | chris_n | mainpage.pl: Bad arg length for Socket::pack_sockaddr_in, length is 0, should be 4 at /usr/lib/perl/5.10/Socket.pm line 214. |
| 16:43 | anyone know what weirdness this is? | |
| 16:45 | 3.0 works fine, 3.2 croaks with the above mentioned error | |
| 16:48 | SelfishMan | Not certain but I'm betting an address/IP is missing from the config |
| 16:50 | chris_n | actually the config is correct |
| 16:55 | schuster | Anybody else notice that when an item is checked in after a transfer is returned current location is not updating? |
| 16:55 | Coming back to "homebranch". | |
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| 17:01 | chris_n | gmcharlt: should koha-conf.xml contain tags for memcached_servers and memcached_namespace if memcached option is not selected during install? |
| 17:01 | SelfishMan: it appears you are correct | |
| 17:02 | SelfishMan | The memcached stuff shouldn't matter |
| 17:02 | It's been a while since I've played with that bit of code though | |
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| 17:28 | gmcharlt | chris_n: doesn't matter to me, really, although keeping them in there so that sysadmin knows that the option exists woudln't hurt |
| 17:29 | chris_n | gmcharlt: any thoughts on the Socket::pack_sockaddr_in weirdness I mention above? |
| 17:29 | 3.0 works fine... 3.2 blows chunks | |
| 17:30 | with the same config | |
| 17:30 | gmcharlt | chris_n: check Michael's patch pushed yesterday |
| 17:30 | does that help | |
| 17:30 | ? | |
| 17:30 | * chris_n | looks |
| 17:39 | Sharon | I just realized I asked a question in #kohakansas, thinking I was in here...no wonder I didn't get an answer! |
| 17:40 | Does the syspref TransfersMaxDaysWarning count business days or calendar days? | |
| 18:01 | chris_n | *groan* |
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| 18:01 | chris_n | gmcharlt: yup, that fixed it up |
| 18:01 | tnx | |
| 18:01 | hi pianohacker | |
| 18:02 | pianohacker | Hi, chris_n, gmcharlt |
| 18:03 | gmcharlt | hi pianohacker |
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| 18:29 | * chris_n | notes the cool new progress indicator on stage-marc-import.pl |
| 18:46 | chris | ohh ill have to try that |
| 18:47 | and sorry abot that memcached thing, and thanks to Michael for fixing it | |
| 18:48 | jdavidb | You're up early, chris. |
| 18:48 | chris | btw chris_n .... if you are up for it, id be interested in some benchmarks from you before and after switching on memoize |
| 18:48 | i got some pretty decent performance increase, would like to see how others get on | |
| 18:48 | that reminds me, i have to edit the INSTALL file | |
| 18:49 | jdavidb: yep trick is to get up before the household wakes up, that way i can grab a shower without a toddler trying to help | |
| 18:49 | jdavidb | heheh...toddlers are so helpful! |
| 18:52 | chris | hdl_laptop: are you around? |
| 18:52 | chris_n | chris: I'll be glad to |
| 18:54 | chris | thanks chris_n |
| 18:55 | chris_n | I'm in the process of testing the merge of labels stuff into 3.2 |
| 18:55 | chris | ahh sweet :) |
| 18:55 | * chris | is reading |
| 18:55 | chris | http://docmiop.wordpress.com/2[…]s-autour-de-koha/ |
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| 18:55 | chris | with the help of google translate |
| 18:57 | ok breakfast time bbiab | |
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| 19:04 | baseballfreak47 | So im installing Koha on this computer with ubuntu using this site: http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]d9d47;hb=HEAD#l81 I have installed everything up to line 72 where it says, "Using the ubuntu.packages file included in the Koha source tree, 73 run the following: |
| 19:04 | $ sudo dpkg --set-selections < install_misc/ubuntu.packages | |
| 19:05 | i tried that and it didnt work any suggestions? | |
| 19:06 | brb | |
| 19:06 | pianohacker | What error did it give? |
| 19:07 | chris_n: around? | |
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| 19:09 | chris_n | here |
| 19:10 | pianohacker | Does your school do any print management? Trying to find an open-source print management tool without success |
| 19:10 | chris_n | we do |
| 19:10 | pianohacker | What do you use? |
| 19:11 | chris_n | currently I'm on a proprietary package, but I'm in the process of moving to an FOSS package... hold on |
| 19:11 | pianohacker | Okay. Thanks |
| 19:16 | chris_n | pianohacker: take a look at http://www.pykota.com/ |
| 19:16 | that is the comes the closest to matching what we currently run | |
| 19:17 | brendan | does libki do any print management? |
| 19:17 | that kyle hall package for computer management IRC | |
| 19:20 | sekjal | hey, brendan. how was your flight? |
| 19:21 | chris | ohh i like this |
| 19:21 | F.Démians : “Son inclusivité. La vraie richesse de Koha, c’est la communauté mondiale de ses utilisateurs et de ses développeurs, son ouverture à toute contribution, l’esprit de coopération qui anime ses membres” | |
| 19:21 | which google translate tells me is roughly | |
| 19:21 | What do you think are the main strengths of Koha? | |
| 19:21 | pianohacker | pykota looks very, very nice. |
| 19:21 | brendan | flight was bumpy -- |
| 19:22 | chris | F. Demians: "His inclusiveness. La vraie richesse de Koha, c'est la communauté mondiale de ses utilisateurs et de ses développeurs, son ouverture à toute contribution, l'esprit de coopération qui anime ses membres” The real wealth of Koha is the world community of its users and its developers, open to any contribution the cooperative spirit that animates its members " |
| 19:22 | ohh remind not to paste from google translate again | |
| 19:23 | chris_n | heh |
| 19:23 | pianohacker | We have been animated by spirits? Ghost-powered development for the win |
| 19:23 | chris | i think it means vodka |
| 19:23 | :) | |
| 19:23 | chris_n | pianohacker: I'm looking forward to getting it running here and getting off of the blackhole of closed source in that area as well |
| 19:23 | sekjal | brendan: sorry to hear that. chris helped me get the circulation state script beaten into submission, and now its just looking at odd cases and trying to fix them |
| 19:24 | chris | ill have to get someone to translate it better, but i like the quote |
| 19:24 | * chris_n | feels very animated atm |
| 19:24 | chris | :) |
| 19:25 | pianohacker | Maybe someday in the far off future when I have some free time (ha), I can integrate powerline with pykota |
| 19:25 | chris | ok im off to work back in 50 mins |
| 19:25 | pianohacker | bye |
| 19:25 | chris | pianohacker: make it your dissertation :) |
| 19:26 | pianohacker | ooh |
| 19:26 | brendan | chris++ |
| 19:26 | pianohacker sounds like a plan | |
| 19:26 | pianohacker | Very much |
| 19:27 | chris_n | someone else was asking about enforcing print policies w/koha some time back |
| 19:28 | * chris_n | pokes his zebra |
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| 20:13 | chris | back |
| 20:14 | kf | has someone time to answer a newbie git question? I managed to produce a patch :) but it was just a test - how can I get back now? |
| 20:14 | chris | get back from where? :) |
| 20:14 | * kf | searching for words |
| 20:14 | kf | to the state where I can produce this patch with updated files tomorrow at work? |
| 20:14 | chris | ahhh |
| 20:15 | kf | does not help that its late and my internet was down for hours ... |
| 20:15 | chris | so you have a commit that you don't want anymore? |
| 20:15 | kf | I think so |
| 20:16 | chris | did you make it on a branch, or did you make it on master? |
| 20:16 | kf | good question |
| 20:16 | git branch tells me im on mywork | |
| 20:16 | chris | all good then |
| 20:17 | you can just go back to master, make a new branch, make your changes there | |
| 20:17 | kf | ah ok |
| 20:17 | but I loose my koha install from mywork branch this way? | |
| 20:17 | chris | or you can revert the commit |
| 20:18 | and you will be back where you were before | |
| 20:18 | kf | is there an easy way to do this? |
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| 20:26 | chris_n2-away | kf: 'git reset --soft HEAD' will take you back one commit, but not remove the work of your commit |
| 20:26 | chris | yeah, thats probably the nicest way, thanks chris_n |
| 20:27 | chris_n2-away | 'git reset --hard HEAD' will take you back and remove your work as well |
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| 20:27 | kf | thx, will try that! |
| 20:28 | hm should the changed files change back? | |
| 20:29 | or how do I know it worked? | |
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| 20:30 | chris | git log |
| 20:30 | should no longer show your commit | |
| 20:30 | nengard | anyone who speaks French on? |
| 20:31 | chris | i used google translate nengard, it does an ok job, i think they are all asleep now |
| 20:31 | nengard | ahh |
| 20:31 | okay | |
| 20:32 | kf | still shows |
| 20:33 | hm | |
| 20:34 | gmcharlt | kf: is your commit at the top? if so |
| 20:34 | git reset --hard HEAD^ | |
| 20:34 | will get rid of it | |
| 20:34 | note the trailing ^ | |
| 20:35 | kf | I think it worked |
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| 20:38 | sekjal | Did Koha 3.0.2 or 3.0.3 limit the number of rows that can be exported from a Guided Report? After I upgraded, I'm getting capped at 10,000 |
| 20:39 | chris | yep |
| 20:39 | i have a fix for that half done | |
| 20:39 | that will respect the limit you specify in your sql | |
| 20:40 | (if no limit is set it will still cap at 9999) | |
| 20:40 | just as a backstop | |
| 20:40 | or a catcher as you guys say :) | |
| 20:41 | basically there is a bug in the code | |
| 20:41 | http://koha.pastebin.com/m6f98023f | |
| 20:42 | is the broken bit | |
| 20:42 | (that second regex) | |
| 20:43 | should be something more like | |
| 20:43 | $sql =~ s/\bLIMIT\b\s*(\d+)\,*(\s*\d+)?\s*/ /ig; | |
| 20:43 | kf | chris chris_n gmcharlt: thx for the help! hope I can redo the patch tomorrow with the newer files. |
| 20:44 | chris | yay kf :) |
| 20:44 | sekjal | ah |
| 20:45 | kf | not my work sadly, I will just help to create the patch file. |
| 20:45 | chris | but that regexp isn't quite right either (it fails if you dont specify an offset and a limit) |
| 20:45 | i hope to have some time today to fix it up and send a patch | |
| 20:45 | then you can do SELECT * FROM borrowers LIMIT 10000000000 if you so wish :) | |
| 20:46 | kf | good night everybody! |
| 20:47 | chris | night kf |
| 20:47 | pianohacker | Good night |
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| 20:48 | sekjal | cool, thanks chris. my boss needs a certain report to load into our temporary course reserves solution, so I've got to figure out how to get it to him soon |
| 20:50 | schuster | I was able to find that bit of code and adjust the number 35000 until the patch comes through. |
| 20:50 | chris | yep thats a quick temp fix |
| 20:50 | find the line that goes | |
| 20:51 | $limit = 9999 unless $limit; | |
| 20:51 | in C4/Reports/Guided.pm | |
| 20:51 | and change that to some high number | |
| 20:51 | schuster | :) |
| 20:51 | jwagner | chris, might it be a good idea to set a syspref for limit so that sites can specify their own & change as needed? |
| 20:52 | schuster | Cook - go for it jwagner! ;) |
| 20:52 | chris | that would work too, but if it respects the limit you specify on your query |
| 20:52 | that would be better | |
| 20:52 | at the moment if you only want 10 .. you get 9999 | |
| 20:53 | and if you change the syspref | |
| 20:53 | the person next to you who wants 700, now gets 10 | |
| 20:53 | jwagner | I'm thinking of people who may not know enough SQL to know how to specify a limit. Syspref could be a fallback -- if there's a limit in the report SQL, use it, otherwise use syspref |
| 20:54 | schuster | I'm one of those who knows just enough to be dangerous! |
| 20:55 | Didn't know Limit existed until I ran a report and read chris' comment. | |
| 20:55 | chris | thats what the limit catchall is for, so ppl dont do select * from biblio,items,borrowers; |
| 20:55 | and asplode | |
| 20:56 | sekjal | well that fixes my problem for today |
| 21:01 | schuster | yippie! I helped someone! |
| 21:04 | chris | :-) |
| 21:04 | its a good feeling eh | |
| 21:07 | pianohacker | Hmm. DNS for irc.katipo.co.nz is working for me |
| 21:08 | chris | yeah |
| 21:08 | seems fine | |
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| 21:20 | schuster | see you all tomorrow! off to American Football 8 year old practice |
| 21:20 | pianohacker | bye |
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| 21:30 | chris | jerks-- |
| 21:30 | jerks-- | |
| 21:30 | complete_tools-- | |
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| 21:32 | pianohacker | chris: ? |
| 21:33 | chris | ahhh, ppl annoying me today |
| 21:33 | * chris | calms down :) |
| 21:34 | owen | Uh oh, what'd we miss? |
| 21:35 | gmcharlt | chris was on the bus, which was jerking him around ;) |
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| 21:36 | chris | hehe |
| 21:36 | actually yeah it was the whiplash bus again this morning | |
| 21:36 | brendan | damn |
| 21:36 | * brendan | investigates helmets to purchase and send to NZ |
| 21:37 | brendan | err.. back braces |
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| 21:38 | chris | a good bus mechanic might help more ;) |
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| 21:43 | |Lupin| | hi |
| 21:43 | chris | hi |Lupin| |
| 21:44 | |Lupin| | hey chris, how is NZ ? how are you ? |
| 21:44 | chris | spring is here, the sun is shining, it's good |
| 21:46 | |Lupin| | yeah ! |
| 21:46 | here the wether is very nice, too | |
| 21:55 | CGI426 | librarian lurking |
| 21:56 | surprised to see weather is "under dev" | |
| 21:57 | chris | ? |
| 21:57 | CGI426 | MT here |
| 21:57 | guess... | |
| 21:58 | my login needs to be reset or you'd see me | |
| 21:58 | chris | type /nick nickname |
| 21:58 | CGI426 | Lee |
| 21:58 | chris | ahh heya :) |
| 21:58 | CGI426 | smile |
| 21:59 | so I really have a question for anyone | |
| 21:59 | pianohacker | Okay |
| 22:00 | CGI426 | working on a digital location |
| 22:00 | virtual | |
| 22:00 | setting up a second library location in Koha | |
| 22:00 | pianohacker | As in a library/branch, or a shelving location? |
| 22:01 | CGI426 | can i change the location in admin to something other than stacks? |
| 22:01 | since no digital object will be located in stacks | |
| 22:01 | pianohacker | Usually shelving locations are set during cataloging |
| 22:01 | CGI426 | stacks is the shelving location |
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| 22:02 | CGI426 | for our regular location |
| 22:02 | pianohacker | You set them up under Admin -> Authorized Values, then choose them when you catalog an item |
| 22:02 | CGI426 | writing this down... |
| 22:03 | thanks | |
| 22:03 | pianohacker | Usually, though, if you're dealing with two entirely different kinds of items |
| 22:03 | You give them different item types | |
| 22:04 | CGI426 | the records are coming from OCLC |
| 22:04 | we edit them with dublin core to reflect a digital object linked to a url | |
| 22:05 | pianohacker | Okay |
| 22:05 | You can still set itemtypes on the individual items, rather than at the bib record level | |
| 22:05 | CGI426 | okay |
| 22:06 | will that increase discoverability? | |
| 22:06 | pianohacker | It's easier to search for different item types, yes |
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| 22:06 | hdl_laptop | chris around ? |
| 22:07 | andy is now known as pie | |
| 22:07 | chris | sup hdl_laptop ? |
| 22:07 | hdl_laptop | hi |
| 22:07 | howdy ? | |
| 22:07 | CGI426 | thanks piano hacker |
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| 22:08 | pianohacker | No problem |
| 22:08 | hdl_laptop | chris : I have a question about translation workflow, it seems that French po file is not the one that is now on pootle |
| 22:09 | chris | oh? |
| 22:09 | hdl_laptop | Is there something to do to check that so that it won't happen again ? |
| 22:09 | chris | i only push to 3.0.x from pootle |
| 22:10 | basically if no one else pushes .po files then it wont happen | |
| 22:10 | ie, things should go into pootle, then into git .. not into git first | |
| 22:11 | hdl_laptop | yes. |
| 22:12 | But the fact is that at the moment, i think that french translation is more up to date in pootle than on 3.0.x branch | |
| 22:14 | At least, it is what I saw on our branch. | |
| 22:14 | By the way, i have pushed a BIG couple of patches on koha-maintenance/reconciliation. | |
| 22:14 | You can update. | |
| 22:14 | chris | ta |
| 22:15 | hdl_laptop | I donot think strings will change a lot. |
| 22:15 | chris | hmm i just pushed to git recently |
| 22:15 | ill do another push from pootle that will update what is in 3.0.x | |
| 22:15 | hdl_laptop | I have taken that. |
| 22:15 | chris | it is much safer if we dont both try to push .po files |
| 22:16 | hdl_laptop | I saw you pushed two days ago. |
| 22:16 | chris | because we will clash with each other |
| 22:16 | hdl_laptop | now, I never push po files. |
| 22:16 | chris | cool |
| 22:16 | i will do a new push | |
| 22:16 | 2 secs | |
| 22:16 | hdl_laptop | unless it comes from 3.0.x |
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| 22:18 | chris | ? |
| 22:18 | andy left #koha | |
| 22:19 | chris | you push from 3.0.x to ? |
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| 22:23 | chris | pushed from pootle |
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| 22:24 | chris | http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]=shortlog;h=3.0.x there we go |
| 22:25 | hdl_laptop: did you see this too http://translate.koha.org/fr/opac3_1/ | |
| 22:25 | hdl_laptop | chris : thanks but staff need update too. |
| 22:26 | chris | not according to git it doesnt |
| 22:27 | 10:23 ~/git/koha-gitosis (3.0.x)$ diff misc/translator/po/fr-FR-i-staff-t-prog-v-3000000.po /var/lib/pootle/intranet3_0/fr/fr-FR-i-staff-t-prog-v-3000000.po | |
| 22:27 | 10:27 ~/git/koha-gitosis (3.0.x)$ | |
| 22:27 | 10:27 ~/git/koha-gitosis (3.0.x)$ git diff | |
| 22:27 | 10:27 ~/git/koha-gitosis (3.0.x)$ | |
| 22:27 | so whats in my git is the same as what is pootle and what is pushed up | |
| 22:29 | * chris | is confused |
| 22:33 | hdl_laptop | mmmm... Maybe a little lack on one of our local branch |
| 22:39 | |Lupin| | good night, everybody |
| 22:40 | good day NZ, chris... | |
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| 22:44 | gmcharlt | hi hdl_laptop |
| 22:44 | hdl_laptop | hi howdy ? |
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| 22:44 | hdl_laptop | hi nahuel so late ???? |
| 22:45 | brendan | well hdl_laptop so late ? |
| 22:45 | hdl_laptop | I am quite accustomed to that ;) |
| 22:45 | Have to update some translation | |
| 22:45 | brendan | :) |
| 22:48 | hdl_laptop | The plan about feature and topic branches seems really HEAVY work on bugfixes. |
| 22:49 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: yep - goal is a solid release, not a buggy one :) |
| 22:49 | hdl_laptop | But I agree it also is the only "sane" way to do. |
| 22:50 | ecorrado is now known as edc_away | |
| 22:50 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: We may have one french Biblibrarian "hackfest" in the next few weeks. |
| 22:50 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: cool |
| 22:51 | hdl_laptop | Hopefully we can use that in that purpose. |
| 22:51 | gmcharlt: I also think that some features could quite easily be generalised : | |
| 22:51 | extended_attributes | |
| 22:51 | Matcher | |
| 22:52 | any thoughts about that ? | |
| 22:53 | (apart from well, let's first integrate those features wherever possible 1st, which would be also a reasonable opinion maybe the only one to have atm). | |
| 23:02 | gmcharlt | Matcher & extended_attributes, sure, but priority should be bugfixing |
| 23:02 | chris | *nod* |
| 23:04 | brendan | bugfixing++ |
| 23:04 | err bugfixing-- | |
| 23:04 | hdl_laptop | bugfixing++ |
| 23:04 | gmcharlt | ? |
| 23:04 | bugfixing++ | |
| 23:04 | brendan | just kidding |
| 23:04 | :) | |
| 23:05 | hdl_laptop | bug-- fixing++ |
| 23:05 | pianohacker | @karma bugfixing |
| 23:05 | munin | pianohacker: Karma for "bugfixing" has been increased 3 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 2. |
| 23:05 | hdl_laptop | I utterly agree on that. |
| 23:11 | gmcharlt: about the patches owen sends which load some jquery code into database, I see there an obvious problem for translation and internationalization. | |
| 23:12 | Is that some issue you are considering ? | |
| 23:21 | gmcharlt: I have pushed some patches from HEAD which could be fixing some issues and some of our bug fixes too onto reconciliation | |
| 23:40 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: re jquery in DB - yes, there is a potential translation problem |
| 23:40 | hdl_laptop: noted re the other patches | |
| 23:41 | hdl_laptop | chris : az is for azerbaidjan code I gues |
| 23:41 | s | |
| 23:42 | chris | that was my guess too |
| 23:42 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: I thought some of those translation problems could be avoided by a WebServices architecture. |
| 23:43 | But I have to work on xslt and columns.def translation | |
| 23:48 | gmcharlt: chris : I have seen OPAC and Summary and HTML as Object Identifier for yaz. I think It could be a good way to take things out of Template Code if we would be able to use those IDs in order to get information.... For 4.0 :P | |
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| 23:49 | chris | not sure i understand you |
| 23:49 | gmcharlt | 4.never :) the Z39.50 definitions are not a good basis IMO |
| 23:49 | in any event, something to argue about later ;) | |
| 23:49 | hdl_laptop | yes |
| 23:51 | gmcharlt: but it still could be a good canvas in order to design output formats : Summary, detail, HTML, ... | |
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| 23:52 | hdl_laptop | rather than copy/paste |
| 23:52 | chris | JSON |
| 23:53 | and with that, im going to lunch | |
| 23:54 | hdl_laptop | bon apetit. |
| 23:54 | gmcharlt: what would be the best base in your opinion ? | |
| 23:54 | ccl ? CQL ? | |
| 23:54 | WTFL ? | |
| 23:57 | gmcharlt | lol |
| 23:57 | honestly, I think simply enumerating and clearly definiing the current structure would be enough | |
| 23:59 | hdl_laptop | mmmm.... |
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