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| Time | Nick | Message | 
|---|---|---|
| 12:00 | Amit | hi jwagner, jdavidb | 
| 12:11 | jdavidb | Howdy, Amit! :) | 
| 12:12 | gmcharlt | hi jwagner, jdavidb, Amit | 
| 12:12 | Amit | hi galen | 
| 12:12 | jdavidb | Hiya, gmcharlt. | 
| 12:13 | jwagner | Hi everyone | 
| 12:13 | Amit | heya jwagner | 
| 12:13 | jdavidb | gmcharlt: Remember that squirrely indexing problem I was having yesterday? Got it licked. | 
| 12:13 | gmcharlt | jdavidb: cool - what was the problem? | 
| 12:14 | jdavidb | This site had self-converted from some other system. Rather than rearrange holdings fields to match Koha's "map" of 952 fields, they rearranged the map. Which, since it'sl all table-based, worked just fine--until I reinstalled default indexing. | 
| 12:15 | Barcode, itype, and about 9 other things were not in the fields that record.abs was expecting. | |
| 12:15 | gmcharlt | yeah, that would do it | 
| 12:15 | that part of the config needs to be coming from one source | |
| 12:16 | jdavidb | So, reconciling record.abs to what is in the map solved the issue, after a reindex. | 
| 12:21 | schuster | Morning all! | 
| 12:22 | gmcharlt | hi schuster | 
| 12:28 | jdavidb | howdy, schuster. :) | 
| 12:30 | paul_p | good morning USA-ers ! | 
| 12:31 | jdavidb | Hi, paul_p. :) | 
| 12:54 | owen | Hi schuster, chris_n | 
| 13:19 | chris_n | hi owen | 
| 13:19 | owen | What's new chris_n? | 
| 13:28 | chris_n | phone | 
| 13:43 | vedran | hello, I lost password , where I Can find it or change it in my koha | 
| 13:44 | gmcharlt | vedran: Koha 3? | 
| 13:44 | if so, it's in the koha-conf.xml file | |
| 13:45 | vedran | gmcharlt: OK, I will check it now | 
| 13:45 | which folder? | |
| 13:50 | chris_n | owen: lots of lightening damage to my lan equipment and pbx in several buildings... :-( | 
| 13:50 | owen | :( | 
| 13:51 | chris_n | insurance++ | 
| 13:51 | owen | I read your lightning strike mention in the log, sorry to hear it was pretty serious | 
| 13:51 | chris_n | a 24 pair cable runs very near the tree that was struck and the rest is history | 
| 13:52 | btw, I like your koha blog | |
| 13:52 | very informative | |
| 13:55 | owen | Thanks | 
| 13:55 | I'm working on a followup on the YUI Grids post, but I'm having trouble getting some answers out of the ydn-javascript group | |
| 13:55 | They don't seem to be interested in Grids questions | |
| 14:04 | chris_n | I've been messing with the grey box js, but it seems to be slow on some machines | 
| 14:09 | owen | chris_n: I'd be open to replacing it with a YUI or jquery method if it was leaner and faster | 
| 14:11 | chris_n | grey box also does not appear to support any form of location.href | 
| 14:12 | does yui offer similar pop up functionality? | |
| 14:13 | owen | I would think so, but don't know offhand. I know you could find a similar jquery plugin | 
| 14:14 | I've used a jquery one called jqModal, but I don't know if the functionality matches Greybox (not sure what the requirements are) | |
| 14:14 | Good luck :| | |
| 14:22 | jdavidb | Hi, Wizzyrea_! | 
| 14:23 | Wizzyrea_ | mornin' :) | 
| 14:23 | just a warning to everybody, later today I'm giving a talk on Open Source Community, you may be projected :P | |
| 14:23 | jdavidb | :) | 
| 14:24 | Wizzyrea_ | HA | 
| 14:24 | not the point, but thanks all the same :) | |
| 14:25 | just be your charming selves | |
| 14:25 | kmkale | bye all | 
| 14:26 | jdavidb | In the interest of balance, I was trying to think of something *negative* to say, Liz, but am at a loss. | 
| 14:38 | owen | Wizzyrea_: Be sure to let us know when to wave | 
| 15:14 | paul_p | gmcharlt: around ? | 
| 15:14 | gmcharlt | paul_p: yes | 
| 15:15 | paul_p | do you know who could fix gitstat ? the last commit in changelog is 09/04/29 :( | 
| 15:15 | ( http://git.koha.org/gitstat/ ) | |
| 15:15 | gmcharlt | paul_p: not sure if I have access - I can readily set up one on my own server, tho | 
| 15:15 | and I think chris is running one as well | |
| 15:16 | paul_p | does it mean we've "lost access" to this site ? | 
| 15:17 | gmcharlt | paul_p: not necessarily - seems I still have shell access to git.koha.org, so will look into fixing it there | 
| 15:17 | paul_p | gmcharlt: ++ | 
| 16:04 | kf | bye #koha :) | 
| 16:16 | gmc_mob | @quote random | 
| 16:16 | munin | gmc_mob: Quote #20: "<wizzyrea> you will see no wedgie-ing from me" (added by jdavidb at 03:50 PM, July 31, 2009) | 
| 16:17 | jdavidb | lol | 
| 16:17 | Wizzyrea_ | ooh | 
| 16:17 | that's a good one | |
| 16:17 | jdavidb | @quote random | 
| 16:17 | munin | jdavidb: Quote #20: "<wizzyrea> you will see no wedgie-ing from me" (added by jdavidb at 03:50 PM, July 31, 2009) | 
| 16:18 | Wizzyrea_ | ...and popular, apparently | 
| 16:18 | owen | I think we need more quotes! | 
| 16:18 | jdavidb | @quote random | 
| 16:18 | munin | jdavidb: Quote #5: "<jwagner> Why is it every Koha rock I turn over produces a zillion (metaphorical) ants, each with a new question????" (added by kf at 01:13 PM, June 12, 2009) | 
| 16:18 | jdavidb | @quote add <owen>I think we need more quotes! | 
| 16:18 | munin | jdavidb: The operation succeeded. Quote #21 added. | 
| 16:19 | jdavidb | :P | 
| 16:19 | Wizzyrea_ | @quote random | 
| 16:19 | munin | Wizzyrea_: Quote #16: "< wizzyrea> i mean, the point of american bacon is to erm, use the belly of the hog (I think)" (added by chris at 09:37 PM, July 17, 2009) | 
| 16:19 | Wizzyrea_ | oh god... | 
| 16:20 | owen | What a limited view of the purpose of bacon. | 
| 16:20 | gmcharlt | Wizzyrea_: you're clearly the most quotable of us all | 
| 16:20 | owen | The purpose of bacon is to make things better. | 
| 16:20 | jdavidb | owen: you wouldn't know this, being the skinny thing you are, but it is also good for maintaining a panoramic physique, like mine. | 
| 16:22 | @quote random | |
| 16:22 | munin | jdavidb: Quote #2: "<jwagner> Hope springs eternal in little kitty hearts. Better watch the doors :-)" (added by gmcharlt at 04:04 PM, June 03, 2009) | 
| 16:23 | Wizzyrea_ | doh I'm not registered, someone add that quote from jdavidb | 
| 16:24 | owen | How does one register? | 
| 16:24 | gmcharlt | owen: /msg munin register nick password | 
| 16:24 | @quote add <jdavidb> owen: you wouldn't know this, being the skinny thing you are, but it is also good for maintaining a panoramic physique, like mine. | |
| 16:24 | munin | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #22 added. | 
| 16:25 | gmcharlt | owen: then /msg munin identify nick password whenever you join | 
| 16:25 | owen | Thanks gmcharlt | 
| 16:25 | Wizzyrea_ | @quote add <gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password | 
| 16:25 | munin | Wizzyrea_: The operation succeeded. Quote #23 added. | 
| 16:25 | Wizzyrea_ | thought it might be useful some day | 
| 16:26 | @quote 23 | |
| 16:26 | munin | Wizzyrea_: I suck | 
| 16:26 | gmcharlt | @quote get 23 | 
| 16:26 | munin | gmcharlt: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009) | 
| 16:26 | Wizzyrea_ | @quote get 23 | 
| 16:26 | munin | Wizzyrea_: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009) | 
| 16:26 | Wizzyrea_ | pbbbt | 
| 16:26 | gmcharlt | @dunno add I've exhausted by database of quotes | 
| 16:26 | munin | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Dunno #6 added. | 
| 16:26 | gmcharlt | @dunno remove 6 | 
| 16:26 | munin | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. | 
| 16:26 | gmcharlt | @dunno add I've exhausted my database of quotes | 
| 16:26 | munin | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Dunno #7 added. | 
| 16:27 | Wizzyrea_ | hm, the /msg munin register nick password might be a good dunno | 
| 16:27 | jdavidb | @quote random | 
| 16:27 | munin | jdavidb: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009) | 
| 16:28 | jdavidb | Munin, you're not very bright, are you? | 
| 16:28 | munin | jdavidb: downloading the Perl source | 
| 16:28 | Wizzyrea_ | well I think that would make him bright | 
| 16:28 | jdavidb | Hmpf. | 
| 16:28 | Wizzyrea_ | @quote random | 
| 16:28 | munin | Wizzyrea_: Quote #21: "<owen> I think we need more quotes!" (added by jdavidb at 04:18 PM, August 06, 2009) | 
| 16:28 | owen | munin: You're a source of endless procrastination. | 
| 16:28 | munin | owen: downloading the Perl source | 
| 16:29 | Wizzyrea_ | @wunder Topeka, KS | 
| 16:29 | munin | Wizzyrea_: The current temperature in Near Washburn University, Topeka, Kansas is 25.3°C (11:29 AM CDT on August 06, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa (Steady). | 
| 16:30 | owen | / msg munin register temperature Fahrenheit | 
| 16:30 | nicomo_ | @wunder lyon france | 
| 16:30 | munin | nicomo_: The current temperature in Lyon Satolas, France is 33.0°C (6:00 PM CEST on August 06, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). | 
| 16:31 | nicomo_ | too hot | 
| 16:31 | owen | Hotter in Lyon than Kansas? Wow. | 
| 16:31 | Wizzyrea_ | yea, it's been a strange summer here | 
| 16:31 | nice, but strange | |
| 16:32 | jdavidb | @wunder rockville, md | 
| 16:32 | munin | jdavidb: The current temperature in Woodley Gardens, Rockville, Maryland is 20.2°C (12:31 PM EDT on August 06, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Steady). | 
| 16:32 | jdavidb | No wonder it feels like a lukewarm bath out there... | 
| 16:32 | nicomo | eh eh | 
| 16:32 | pianohacker | You can also add a hostmask, so you don't have to enter your password | 
| 16:32 | nicomo | 33°C is, what? 90°F? | 
| 16:33 | Wizzyrea_ | jdavidb; in my book, that's a cold bath | 
| 16:33 | that's a bath hardly worth taking | |
| 16:33 | pianohacker | @gcalc 32 degrees celcius in degrees fahrenheit | 
| 16:33 | munin | pianohacker: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything. | 
| 16:33 | nicomo | 91.4 | 
| 16:33 | pianohacker | @gcalc 32 degrees celsius in degrees fahrenheit | 
| 16:33 | munin | pianohacker: 32 degrees Celsius = 89.6 degrees Fahrenheit | 
| 16:34 | nicomo | I think I'll stay indoors | 
| 16:34 | jdavidb | It's pleasantly cool and rainy here today. One of those slow drippy rains that you can stand out in for thirty minutes, and *not* get soaked. | 
| 16:34 | Wizzyrea_ | nicomo: good idea jdavidb: oh, nice | 
| 16:36 | jdavidb | gmcharlt: Here's a puzzler...remember how I told you that my problem child had rearranged the map a bit, causing index problems? | 
| 16:39 | gmcharlt | jdavidb: yep | 
| 16:39 | joetho | Another busy day at the office, I see. | 
| 16:40 | jdavidb | It's causing search-results problems, too, apparently. Everything shows "available" on the hitlist, even when it's checked out. onloan is mapped to 952$k, and that's just not present in the field at Search.pm/1273 and following, when the hash gets populated to work all that out. | 
| 16:41 | (it is in the marcxml stared in biblioitems, however.) | |
| 16:42 | Ah...in the framework, it's marked "hidden"! Could taht be it? | |
| 16:42 | joetho | is there a separate liblime IRC channel? | 
| 16:43 | gmcharlt | jdavidb: ouch if that actually turns out to be the reason - 'hidden' should only affect visibility | 
| 16:43 | Wizzyrea_ | not that I'm aware of | 
| 16:44 | gmcharlt | jdavidb: in the MARC frameworks, all item fields are mapped to the same tag, correct? | 
| 16:44 | jdavidb | 952, yes. | 
| 16:46 | I did a Dumper on $field, and most of the *rest* of the subfields are there...lost status, barcode, lots of others. But not k. $subfieldtosearch{'onloan'} is correctly 'k'. | |
| 16:46 | un-hiding that didn't change anything. | |
| 16:48 | gmcharlt | jdavidb: note that at that point in the process, C4/Search.pm is parsing the MARC record as returned by Zebra, not the version stored in the DB | 
| 16:48 | jdavidb | oh-hoh. | 
| 16:48 | gmcharlt | you can using yaz-client, set the format to xml and the element set to marcxml to see what it's returning | 
| 16:49 | or, more readily | |
| 16:49 | do a Dumper of the $marcrecord parsed around line 1195 | |
| 16:52 | jdavidb | Sure enough, 952$k is not there. Hrm. | 
| 16:53 | pianohacker | jdavidb: Is it in the marcxml blob in the table? | 
| 16:53 | jdavidb | pianohacker: a-yup! | 
| 16:53 | pianohacker | And record.abs? | 
| 16:54 | jdavidb | yup. | 
| 16:54 | gmcharlt | jdavidb: hmm - is it also in the marc (not marcxml) blob in biblioitems? | 
| 16:55 | jdavidb | yup! I see it there. | 
| 16:55 | gmcharlt | quick way to tell (besides looking at it) would be to reindex that record using -b -x -z | 
| 16:58 | jdavidb | That happened already once this morning. But it's not just this one record--*everything* shows available... | 
| 17:01 | I did the yaz-client bit, and 952$k just is not being returned. | |
| 17:02 | letting it show it to me in marc form, zebra isn't giving it to me there, either. Maybe it filtered it away on input? | |
| 17:04 | paul_p | bye everybody & see you tomorrow (before I leave for 2 weeks of vacations) | 
| 17:04 | jdavidb | have a good evening, paul! | 
| 17:04 | gmcharlt | g'night paul_p | 
| 17:16 | jdavidb | Bother. Found a eeety bitty typo in my record.abs. Fixed, and resent the record thru the zebra queue...sure enough, that got it. | 
| 17:20 | jwagner | To quote someone not a thousand miles away :-) Spelling Counts! | 
| 17:22 | jdavidb | jwagner: :P One space, in one line of record.abs, caused a "bad # of args to melm"...on that line. | 
| 17:25 | jwagner | (jdavidb keeps using that line on me -- 'tis fun to return fire!) | 
| 17:26 | jdavidb | jwagner, be nice, or I'll make your sandbox forget things. :P | 
| 17:26 | gmcharlt, pianohacker, thanks for the help... | |
| 17:26 | jwagner | So long as you don't dump kitty litter into the sandbox.... | 
| 17:43 | owen | http://www.librarian.net/stax/[…]t-of-open-source/ | 
| 18:11 | wizzyrea_preso | Good afternoon, koha folks | 
| 18:11 | you're live on screen, fyi lol | |
| 18:11 | atz | what's "preso"? | 
| 18:11 | ah, presentation | |
| 18:11 | wizzyrea_preso | I"m in a presentation ^.^ | 
| 18:11 | atz | don't listen to her! | 
| 18:11 | j/k | |
| 18:11 | owen | Hi wizzyrea_preso's audience | 
| 18:12 | jdavidb | Howdy from Maryland! | 
| 18:12 | owen | Did y'all just have lunch? You must be sleepy now. | 
| 18:12 | MickeyC | wave to galen from diana! | 
| 18:12 | joetho | Hi Joe! | 
| 18:12 | MickeyC | fajitas for lunch | 
| 18:13 | jdavidb | You're getting verry....sleeeeeeepy..... | 
| 18:13 | MickeyC | zzzzz | 
| 18:13 | magnusenger | "God kveld" from Norway! | 
| 18:14 | jwagner | Nonzenze, wizzyrea, Pay No Attention To Those People Behind the Curtain! | 
| 18:15 | joetho | a log of this channel: http://koha.org/cgi-bin/logs.p[…]25%3A00&save=save | 
| 18:16 | jdavidb | Yesterday's meeting, yup! | 
| 18:16 | joetho | an easy mibbet login page to this channel: http://www.sekls.org/irc | 
| 20:31 | richard | hi | 
| 21:04 | schuster | ;) I have cable - love it. | 
| 21:04 | night all have a great evening. | |
| 21:07 | joetho | we have a 10 mb/sec connection in the office that is usually pretty hot. On the road can be just about anything | 
| 21:08 | I have found some of these 802.11 wireless providers to be shockingly fast. Sometimes. | |
| 21:09 | and dsl beats a 9600 modem. | |
| 22:21 | pianohacker | Hello, chris | 
| 22:22 | chris | heya pianohacker, howsit? | 
| 22:23 | pianohacker | Good, good | 
| 22:28 | chris_n: Cable isn't always perfect; I swear administering a reliable DNS server seems to be completely beyond Bresnan | |
| 22:30 | Jo | morning all | 
| 22:30 | pianohacker | Good morning | 
| 22:36 | gmcharlt | hi Jo | 
| 22:37 | chris_n2 | hello chris, pianohacker, Jo, & gmcharlt | 
| 22:38 | chris | chris_n2: pie on here is who might be doing some work on database independence, so he might have some questiosn for you :) | 
| 22:38 | pianohacker | database independence? | 
| 22:38 | chris | well at least being able to work with postgres and mysql for a start | 
| 22:39 | pianohacker | Ah | 
| 22:40 | chris | ohh congrats :) | 
| 22:40 | gmcharlt | chris_n2: congrats! | 
| 22:40 | pianohacker | Congratulations. Took a sec to realize you must be talking about your marriage, since Koha's only 10 years old | 
| 22:40 | chris_n2 | hehe | 
| 22:41 | tnx | |
| 22:41 | pianohacker | The two anniversaries are pretty close together | 
| 22:42 | chris_n2 | happy coincidence... two wonderful occurrences in such close proximity ;-) | 
| 22:45 | pie | chris_n2: that's awesome, congrats :) | 
| 22:45 | and yeah, chris is right, I'm gonna try and look at some DB bits and bobs | |
| 22:45 | chris_n2 | tnx, pie | 
| 22:49 | at least I assume that that is the correct variation of dophin used by mysql | |
| 22:49 | pianohacker | Presumably | 
| 22:50 | pie | that's a good skill to have :) | 
| 22:52 | gmcharlt | if you can't find a reference librarian, use Google ;) | 
| 23:07 | chris_n2 | are there any issues in using ajax in koha? | 
| 23:07 | s/in/with/ | |
| 23:08 | chris | not if it degrades | 
| 23:08 | chris_n2 | ? | 
| 23:09 | degrades == backward compatibility | |
| 23:09 | chris | ie if you can still use the feature without having js, but if you have js then it uses ajax | 
| 23:09 | thats cool | |
| 23:10 | mostly for accessibility reasons | |
| 23:18 | pianohacker | chris_n2-away: I must, as duty commands, point out my C4::Service framework if you're interested in Koha AJAX stuff | 
| 23:19 | chris | @later tell chris_n2 < pianohacker> chris_n2-away: I must, as duty commands, point out my C4::Service framework if you're interested in Koha AJAX stuff | 
| 23:19 | munin | chris: The operation succeeded. | 
| 23:19 | chris | just in case :) | 
| 23:19 | pianohacker | Ahh, good idea. Thanks | 
| 01:04 | 'gnight | |
| 01:04 | brendan | see you in a bit #koha -- time to ride the bike home | 
| 01:42 | back after a pleasant bike-ride home | |
| 01:45 | pie | I gotta do it more :) | 
| 01:46 | brendan | :) | 
| 02:01 | lamiette | brendan: how far is the ride? | 
| 02:26 | brendan | 4.5 miles | 
| 02:26 | gcalc 4.5 miles in km | |
| 02:26 | @gcalc 4.5 miles in km | |
| 02:26 | munin | brendan: 4.5 miles = 7.242048 kilometers | 
| 02:27 | brendan | so 7km lamiette | 
| 02:32 | mason | . | 
| 02:40 | lamiette | brendan: I think my cycle route to work is only 2km a the moment so round trip 4 :( not really long enough and through the city so not that fun either | 
| 02:41 | brendan | that's cool -- at least you're out ride -- I think that is the key | 
| 02:41 | lamiette | haven't been for a while :) but need to get back into it again as I have the Taupo cyclechallenge in Nov | 
| 02:42 | brendan | good luck | 
| 02:42 | lamiette | only going to do 40-80kms :) | 
| 03:31 | Amit | hi chris, brendan | 
| 03:31 | good morning #koha | |
| 03:32 | @wunder New Delhi India | |
| 03:32 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 32.0°C (8:30 AM IST on August 07, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady). | 
| 03:45 | brendan | @wunder 93117 | 
| 03:45 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 22.8°C (8:38 PM PDT on August 06, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Falling). Wind Advisory in effect until 9 am PDT Friday... | 
| 03:45 | brendan | hi amit | 
| 03:46 | Amit | heya brendan | 
| 03:46 | hi Jo, Pie | |
| 03:46 | @wunder dehradun India | |
| 03:46 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 25.0°C (8:30 AM IST on August 07, 2009). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 29.49 in 999 hPa. | 
| 03:46 | Amit | @wunder Bangalore India | 
| 03:46 | munin | Amit: Error: No such location could be found. | 
| 04:09 | mason | morning amit | 
| 04:13 | Amit | morning mason | 
| 05:12 | Jo | Hi Amit | 
| 05:12 | Amit | heya jo | 
| 05:12 | Jo | (funny how I actually quite like getting the daily weather report from India :) | 
| 05:17 | Amit | which city | 
| 05:24 | Jo | any .. | 
| 05:24 | they don't mean anything to me .. I just like that they appear whenever you guys start work :) | |
| 05:25 | ok - I'm off home. | |
| 05:25 | Have a great weekedn everyone. | |
| 06:35 | greenmang0 | @wunder mumbai | 
| 06:35 | munin | greenmang0: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 30.0°C (11:40 AM IST on August 07, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 25.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). | 
| 07:18 | kf | good morning #koha | 
| 07:20 | paul_p | good morning #koha too | 
| 07:47 | eiro | gm #koha | 
| 07:55 | kf | :) | 
| 07:59 | Amit | hi kf | 
| 08:03 | kf | hi Amit | 
| 11:33 | Amit | hi davi, jwagner | 
| 11:34 | davi | hi Amit | 
| 11:48 | jwagner | Hi Amit | 
| 11:56 | gmcharlt | morning | 
| 11:57 | Amit | hi galen | 
| 11:57 | jwagner | morning, galen | 
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