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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:00 | nahuel | gmcharlt, thanks for the answer in zebralist |
| 12:03 | jwagner | gmcharlt (or anyone) -- with regard to bug #3091 about patron images no longer uploading, do you know if anyone is working on a fix? One of my sites is asking. I haven't heard anything since the initial bug reports. I know this worked as recently as February of this year -- something in one of the recent releases broke it. |
| 12:03 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3091 major, P5, ---, galen.charltonliblime.com, NEW, Problem uploading patron image. |
| 12:28 | |Lupin| | bbl |
| 12:28 | bye everybody | |
| 13:01 | gmcharlt | nahuel: please let me know if sortmax works |
| 13:01 | nahuel | gmcharlt, it works :) thanks |
| 13:01 | gmcharlt | jwagner: double checking - can you confirm it's also broken for you? |
| 13:08 | jwagner | gmcharlt, it was broken when I tested a few weeks ago -- haven't tried since then. |
| 13:16 | gmcharlt | jwagner: ok, I'll look into it |
| 13:18 | jwagner | The bug report had a suggested fix from someone, but it seemed to be a Perl install fix, not a Koha fix. I was just curious if you'd heard of anyone working on it. |
| 13:52 | rhcl | Hi Ho, Hi Ho, it's off to SMUG they Go. |
| 13:53 | My director and tech services manager want to talk about Koha. | |
| 13:53 | owen | SMUG! - the official website of Sexual Minorities Uganda? |
| 13:54 | rhcl | SMUG, huh, no. Something Sirsi * Users Group |
| 13:54 | In Nebraska (that's in the United States) | |
| 13:54 | atz | @cybog SMUG |
| 13:54 | munin | atz: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 13:54 | rhcl | They are supposed to talk about Sirsi stuff, but the past couple of yearly meetings there have been side discussions about Koha |
| 13:55 | atz | @cyborg SMUG |
| 13:55 | munin | atz: downloading the Perl source |
| 13:55 | wizzyrea | Sirsi Midwest Users Group? |
| 13:55 | atz | sounds plausible |
| 13:55 | rhcl | Yea, that's probably it |
| 13:55 | wizzyrea | atz++ |
| 13:55 | for the excellent work on SIP | |
| 13:55 | rhcl | Yea, actually it is. They let me go one time. |
| 13:56 | wizzyrea | OMG they let you out of your office? |
| 13:56 | ^.^ | |
| 13:56 | rhcl | Good bagles and I think they had orange juice. The amenities are how I rate conferences. |
| 13:56 | jdavidb | wizzyrea: :P Once in a while. |
| 13:56 | rhcl | Oh, I get out all the time. |
| 13:57 | jdavidb | rhcl: The lunches have always been good, when I've been. Bellevue did it all the times I went; they've got nice facilities. |
| 13:57 | rhcl | They actually try to get me to go to stuff, but I just finished my MS and while I was working on that I didn't have time to go anywhere. |
| 13:57 | atz | "I try to get out... and they *drag* me back in." |
| 13:57 | rhcl | Yea, the conference itself is good; getting off the Interstate and finding a parking spot is hard. |
| 13:58 | wizzyrea | you mean the interstate isn't a parking lot? |
| 13:58 | jdavidb | Barbara Cornelius usually picked me up; We parked in the lot "below" the library, and never had much trouble. Bit of a hike to the campus center, but that's okay. |
| 13:58 | rhcl | It could be; all you'd have to do is jump that 10' chain link fence and you'd be on campus. |
| 14:00 | jdavidb | I did pre-conferences all three years I went, as well as a sesson during the breakouts. Would have done it again this year, but wasn't invited to. (Am told they're cutting back a little.) |
| 14:00 | rhcl | Well, everybody keeps leaving Sirsi; I suppose they do have to cut back. ;) |
| 14:01 | jdavidb | Heh. True enough. |
| 14:03 | rhcl | jdavidb: so obviously you aren't even going to attend this year. |
| 14:03 | ? | |
| 14:03 | jwagner | Different group, but I'm going to be doing a presentation at a DC regional Sirsi conference this fall. First-time regional conf for this users group. Some Sirsi sites are still going strong! (I have a foot in both camps, although for Sirsi it's more like a big toe rather than a whole foot any more.) |
| 14:03 | jdavidb | Nope. |
| 14:04 | rhcl: That wasn't my regional group; I just got invited to come speak a lot. I am a past-president of the South Central UUG, but live outside that area now, too. | |
| 14:04 | Snow_Fox | morning all |
| 14:04 | owen | Hi Snow_Fox |
| 14:04 | jdavidb | Howdy, Snow_Fox! |
| 14:04 | rhcl | Snow, you've been missing out on a good conversation. |
| 14:04 | Snow_Fox | oh? |
| 14:05 | rhcl | Yea, about SMUG and Sirsi |
| 14:05 | Snow_Fox | do i want to know? |
| 14:07 | rhcl | Oh, it wasn't that big of a deal. Just that the SMUG conference is starting and the side issues are Koha and Koha. |
| 14:08 | Snow_Fox | ah |
| 14:09 | rhcl | jdavidb: were you the person that called me with info about ContentDM? |
| 14:09 | jdavidb | I had originally planned on presenting there again this year--rehashing something I'd done at SuperConference on "Open-Source tools to make a sysadmin's life sane." (And yeah, Koha would be one of them.) |
| 14:09 | Snow_Fox | theres tools that make a sysadmins life sane? |
| 14:09 | jdavidb | Probably not; I'm not a fan of ContentDM. |
| 14:09 | Snow_Fox | is it prescription? |
| 14:09 | jdavidb | Snow_Fox: Everything is relative. |
| 14:09 | Snow_Fox | i beg to differ :P |
| 14:11 | jdavidb | At the time I presented at SC, I had found a few gadgets to make my life a little *less* crazy. Dealing with Unicorn was all the madness I could handle. |
| 14:11 | jwagner | Speaking of Sirsi, there's been a discussion on the Unicorn sysadmin list about allowing sites to customize their own help files for the OPAC. One of Sirsi's people, during that discussion, posted a link to a blog about "open system" (very definitely not open source). I found it interesting and somewhat amusing. http://sirsidynixsustainablede[…]-open-system.html |
| 14:11 | Snow_Fox | huh |
| 14:12 | maybe they are getting antsy about market share? | |
| 14:12 | jdavidb | I'd been doing that sort of thing on iBistro since about 2003. Are they finally getting around to making it do-able for the non-API geeks? |
| 14:13 | jwagner | The problem is with the newer versions (Symphony & Enterprise) the help files aren't directly editable. This is not going down well, especially with consortia & other places who want to customize to local practices. |
| 14:13 | jdavidb | SirsiDynix-- |
| 14:13 | jwagner | Sirsi-sysadmins++ |
| 14:15 | rhcl | You know, somebody sent an email to the list about Koha on a Sun Fire V240, and it caught my eye because we have Unicorn running on one. |
| 14:16 | jdavidb | That's what we were doing, too. It'd be interesting to see. No reason it shouldn't be do-able, though, and I suspect it'd be blazingly fast. |
| 14:16 | rhcl | So we have this very very expensive (very capable) machine, and I'm wonding myself how well it would run Koha. |
| 14:16 | Or more correctly, how hard getting Koha to run on it would be. | |
| 14:17 | jdavidb | Even with the overhead of running VirtualBox, as was suggested, it'd still be pretty quick, and that'd narrow down some of the difficulties. |
| 14:18 | Doing it on a system that is *currently* running Unicorn...that might be hairy, with all the nonsense that SD does to Perl. | |
| 14:18 | rhcl | Well, actually that was my thought exactly--installing Virtual Box and then Koha in that. My tech services manager would freak out. |
| 14:18 | jdavidb | Heh. |
| 14:19 | rhcl | It ain't gonna happen, but I was just thinking about it. |
| 14:19 | Snow_Fox | i can see it now |
| 14:19 | whats that black box covered in dust in the corner with power and nic | |
| 14:19 | nothing...... | |
| 14:20 | jdavidb | The "other" ILS... |
| 14:20 | Snow_Fox | ive seen situations where there is a black box and no one know what it does |
| 14:20 | jdavidb | I had a couple of virtual boxen running on my test server (a V240) in addition to a Unicorn instance. Seemed a pity to not use that capacity for *something*. |
| 14:21 | rhcl | Actually, we were playing with trying to get Koha to manage our serials (we don't have that Sirsi module), and we (my assistant and I) actually had a big ol' monsterous Compaq ML350 G2 sitting in our admin area with us. |
| 14:22 | We're all deaf now. | |
| 14:22 | jdavidb | I imagine so! |
| 14:22 | Snow_Fox | hehe |
| 14:22 | i have one | |
| 14:23 | jwagner | Been there, done that, got the earplugs.... |
| 14:23 | Snow_Fox | i use him for databackup- |
| 14:23 | he's only on when i need to get something | |
| 14:23 | jdavidb | Years ago, I had a DEC AlphaServer 1000 in my office. Dual power-supply...sounded like a jet engine was running loose in there. |
| 14:24 | rhcl | We finally ditched ours. I'll try to come up with something a little more modern and we'll reload it. I think Koha was working OK, but we couldn't get the data transfer right from Unicorn to Koha for the serials. |
| 14:25 | Snow_Fox | ah |
| 14:25 | i only had one PS | |
| 14:25 | and it wasnt horrible | |
| 14:25 | cept on powerup | |
| 14:26 | rhcl | This one we have is dual everything--power and CPUs |
| 14:28 | brb, need some coffee | |
| 14:28 | Snow_Fox | ah |
| 14:29 | mine was only a single core single PS but had a hotswapable SCSI bay for about 5 drives | |
| 14:29 | wish it was SATA | |
| 14:29 | drives are far cheaper | |
| 14:29 | and need to expand | |
| 15:25 | owen | If you do a keyword search in the OPAC, it doesn't do a tag search at the same time does it? |
| 15:29 | nicomo_ | owen: no |
| 15:31 | owen | What about a message at the top of your search results that says, "Your search matched tagged items," with a link to those results? |
| 15:32 | You'd probably want to do a fuzzy match on the tags, though | |
| 15:32 | jdavidb | That would be very, very cool... |
| 15:33 | owen | Did you buy that lottery ticket yet jdavidb? |
| 15:34 | jdavidb | I bought one, owen, but we'll see how it goes. ;-) |
| 15:34 | nicomo | owen: I'm not sure about mixing a search between subjects headings provided in the record by librarians and user provided tags |
| 15:35 | owen | nicomo: That's why I thought maybe a message offering a link was better than mixing the results by default |
| 15:35 | nicomo | ah ok, got it now |
| 15:36 | why not, yes | |
| 15:38 | Snow_Fox | huh |
| 15:38 | i just noticed a bad tag | |
| 15:38 | on the demo | |
| 15:38 | how do you go in a remove say offensive tags | |
| 15:39 | owen | You go into Tools -> Tags in the staff client |
| 15:39 | You'd probably want to have tag moderation turned on so that they have to pass a librarian before going on the opac | |
| 15:40 | Snow_Fox | public demo has "bitch" as a tag in the cloud |
| 15:42 | well thats fixed :-P | |
| 15:42 | now i just gotta fix my screen shot for our documentation | |
| 15:47 | jwagner | gmcharlt, around? |
| 15:47 | gmcharlt | jwagner: yes |
| 15:48 | jwagner | I've been trying to keep an eye on all the SIP patches atz has been doing, but I've lost track. I saw you'd pushed the latest one to head (the 3M Chute thing). Have the others that came out last week gone into head yet? |
| 15:49 | gmcharlt | jwagner: yes |
| 15:49 | jwagner | OK, great. Thanks. |
| 15:50 | jdavidb | gmcharlt++ |
| 15:50 | Hm. I wonder... | |
| 15:50 | @karma gmcharlt | |
| 15:50 | munin | jdavidb: Karma for "gmcharlt" has been increased 28 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 28. |
| 15:51 | gmcharlt | gmcharlt-- # gotta be some balance |
| 15:51 | munin | gmcharlt: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma. |
| 15:51 | gmcharlt | but I guess I won't be the one to do it |
| 15:51 | owen | You'll have to pick a fight with someone |
| 15:51 | jwagner | Certainly no one ELSE is going to decrease your karma! |
| 15:53 | kf | gmcharlt++ (for SIP patches - started SIP-testing this week :) ) |
| 15:54 | jdavidb | hee. Poor galen. He's so awesome, he can't avoid high karma. |
| 15:54 | kf | :) |
| 15:56 | gmcharlt | speaking of testing, if anybody other than me has a moment test Koha with the latest version of MARC::File::XML (0.91), I'd appreciate the feedback |
| 15:56 | there *shouldn't* be any regressions, but... | |
| 15:58 | wizzyrea | kf what are you using your SIP for? |
| 15:58 | self check/RFID? | |
| 15:59 | kf | yes |
| 15:59 | wizzyrea | what platform? |
| 15:59 | kf | the library had no barcodes so they decided to start directly with rfid |
| 15:59 | check in and check out using a self check station, no sorting | |
| 16:00 | its a German vendor called EasyCheck | |
| 16:00 | wizzyrea | oh cool |
| 16:00 | kf | we just started with some test cases for the sip server and got a reader with keybuffer program for the desk |
| 16:01 | gmcharlt | kf: assuming it tests out OK, please update the compatibility list at the bottom of http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]:development:sip2 |
| 16:01 | kf | will do |
| 16:02 | wizzyrea | yea, NEKLS has put some dev bucks into SIP, we hope it's working for you :) |
| 16:02 | kf | NEKLS++ |
| 16:02 | gmcharlt | NEKLS++ |
| 16:02 | wizzyrea | ooh, karma for nekls |
| 16:02 | fwiw, it works great for us now | |
| 16:03 | kf | nice to hear that! |
| 16:03 | gmcharlt | atz++ # he does most of the heavy lifting for SIP2 |
| 16:03 | kf | does the wiki page need other upgrades with the new patches? |
| 16:03 | wizzyrea | we're using 3M hardware and computer management with Envisionware |
| 16:03 | gmcharlt | kf: probably, yes |
| 16:03 | wizzyrea | atz++ |
| 16:05 | owen | Does anyone know if vufind offers a "tag cloud" view? |
| 16:08 | eiro | hello guys |
| 16:08 | owen | wizzyrea: Looks like NEKLS patrons aren't jumping all over the tagging feature either. |
| 16:09 | NPL patrons have barely noticed it. | |
| 16:10 | wizzyrea | yea, they're not |
| 16:10 | we haven't really publicised it | |
| 16:10 | (aside: oi, british spelling) | |
| 16:12 | owen | My introduction to tagging for our staff is meant to be a precursor to starting some publicity. |
| 16:12 | kf | I think you need a critical mass - perhaps library should tag books, so that there is a cloud and people get an idea how it can look like |
| 16:12 | wizzyrea | well that could be |
| 16:15 | owen | That's a pretty good idea actually. wizzyrea can you get right on that? |
| 16:15 | wizzyrea | heh |
| 16:16 | I can add an enhancement bug for it >.> | |
| 16:18 | jdavidb | So, you'll have the patches ready for gmcharlt tomorrow or so? |
| 16:18 | :D | |
| 16:18 | wizzyrea | yea, I'll get right on that |
| 16:21 | jdavidb | Yay! |
| 16:22 | jwagner | To paraphrase certain persons of our acquaintance, I want complete functionality and I want it yesterday! |
| 16:23 | You know who I mean..... | |
| 16:23 | jdavidb | A-yup. |
| 16:26 | jwagner | But thanks to NEKLS for sponsoring all the SIP stuff! |
| 16:27 | gmcharlt | If I'm not mistaken, one of the outcomes of the SOPAC features may be a way to get a better shot at a critical mass for tags |
| 16:28 | wizzyrea | well I hope it helps someone out. I made sure to remind the library that needed all of the enhancements that their problems were not in vain, that koha users around the world would benefit from their struggles |
| 16:28 | jwagner | Yep. Benefit almost immediately, as a matter of fact. |
| 16:31 | jdavidb | When we first started talking tagging at ALC, one of the catalogers wanted to import all the LC subject headings for the bibs into the tags. *headdesk* |
| 16:32 | rhcl | chris: online? |
| 16:33 | @seen chris | |
| 16:33 | munin | rhcl: chris was last seen in #koha 6 hours, 19 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: <chris> its 10.15pm .. no one is paying me at the moment :-) its addictive |
| 16:45 | kf | one question: our library will start with koha in october - thats (hopefully) not far from 3.2 |
| 16:46 | and seeing the additions for SIP we probably need... im not sure which version to install - HEAD or 3.0.x | |
| 16:48 | I have test installations for both atm | |
| 16:49 | no advice? :) | |
| 16:50 | gmcharlt | I'd say HEAD - the SIP2 stuff is dependent on other circ changes that may be a bit tricky to backport to 3.0.x |
| 16:51 | kf | it seems very stable and I like the new features |
| 16:53 | the patches for AllowOnShelfHolds are also very interesting | |
| 16:54 | I want to go with HEAD, but not sure if I can convince my colleagues. :( | |
| 16:56 | Is it safe to update a production system from HEAD when 3.2 is officially released? | |
| 17:03 | gmcharlt | kf: yes |
| 17:07 | kf | gmcharlt: thx |
| 17:12 | time go go home now - bye #koha :) | |
| 17:21 | owen | Hi petermayr |
| 17:25 | Has anyone done anything with Amazon content and 13-digit isbns? I can't remember if someone has worked on that issue. | |
| 17:29 | Using the Operator Firefox addon is great for discovering how people are using microformats | |
| 17:29 | Snow_Fox | what exactly is authoiryt search? |
| 17:31 | owen | Snow_Fox: In what context? |
| 17:32 | Snow_Fox | Opac Search |
| 17:33 | Browse by subject | |
| 17:33 | Authority Search | |
| 17:33 | and main entry has ($a only) | |
| 17:33 | owen | Does your library use Authority records? |
| 17:33 | Snow_Fox | ihavnt a clue |
| 17:33 | owen | Then you probably don't :) |
| 17:33 | Snow_Fox | looks like it worked |
| 17:34 | owen | Some libraries purchase authority records just like they purchase MARC records |
| 17:34 | Authority records are the authoritative format for data like author, subject, etc. | |
| 17:37 | Snow_Fox | ok seriously why do we have something like this in our Opac |
| 17:39 | owen | Uhh... In case someone might want to use it? |
| 17:39 | Snow_Fox | i can barely use it |
| 17:40 | meh oh well | |
| 17:40 | owen | System preference: OpacAuthorities. Set to OFF. |
| 17:41 | Snow_Fox | not my call to make |
| 17:41 | however nice to know it can me removed easily | |
| 17:49 | ecorrado | is there anything I have to do to activate changes in opac-auth.tmpl? I edited the file but I don't see my changes. |
| 17:52 | pianohacker | ecorrado: What specifically did you change? |
| 17:53 | Also, if you did a standard install, editing the files in the tarball won't do anything | |
| 17:53 | You have to change them where they were installed | |
| 17:54 | ecorrado | I removed the stuff about seeing a librarian to get a new card. |
| 17:54 | I edited /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules | |
| 17:55 | (I confired I actually have en selected as the language in the admin module and not something like en-NZ) | |
| 17:56 | I want everthing after and including "Don't have a password yet?" off of: http://cassidy.binghamton.edu/[…]koha/opac-user.pl | |
| 17:57 | pianohacker | Hmm. |
| 17:57 | If you edit anything else, do your changes show up? | |
| 17:58 | ecorrado | nope, but I didn't try other files, only that one. |
| 17:58 | should it automatically show up? | |
| 17:58 | pianohacker | It should, yes |
| 17:58 | gmcharlt | ecorrado: in the active koha-conf.xml, make sure <opachtdocs> is in fact /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl |
| 17:59 | ecorrado: also make sure that the opacthemes system preference is set to prog | |
| 18:01 | ecorrado | gmcharlt: those two things are set properly |
| 18:04 | ok.... I edited rn-NZ and it worked | |
| 18:04 | so the proble is it is displaying the wrong language in the Admin module | |
| 18:05 | odd | |
| 18:05 | but that does explain the spelling of catalogue | |
| 18:05 | gmcharlt | opaclanguages = 'en', not 'en-NZ'? |
| 18:05 | ecorrado | yep, I have it as en |
| 18:07 | there must be somethign wrong underneath... | |
| 18:08 | It doesn't take any language changes, although the admin web page sas it does | |
| 18:08 | is there a file where these are saved on the server? Maybe I have a permissions issue? | |
| 18:10 | hmmmm..... | |
| 18:10 | Someehow I got it to work. | |
| 18:10 | I changed it to Italian and back and now it is in regular English. | |
| 18:10 | Still, something is weird.... I'll have to look into it | |
| 18:10 | thanks for your help | |
| 18:19 | |Lupin| | hi again everybody |
| 18:20 | gmcharlt: are you around ? | |
| 18:23 | gmcharlt | |Lupin|: hi |
| 18:24 | |Lupin| | gmcharlt: hi |
| 18:25 | gmcharlt: I was wondering... would you accept a patch that adds country and a B_country fields to the borrowers table ? | |
| 18:25 | gmcharlt: we'd need the country one, so I could do something similar to what I provided for bug 3440 | |
| 18:25 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3440 enhancement, P5, ---, Sebastien.Hinderersnv.jussieu.fr, ASSIGNED, More information in the branches table |
| 18:26 | gmcharlt | |Lupin|: I suppose. Is your patron population multi-national? |
| 18:26 | |Lupin| | gmcharlt: yep |
| 18:27 | gmcharlt: since our books are distributed as files, we already have patrons in France, Switzerland and a few North-african countries | |
| 18:27 | african, rather, and we expect to have canadian readers, too. | |
| 18:27 | gmcharlt | OK |
| 18:28 | |Lupin| | gmcharlt: did you already review the other patch ? just to know whether I can use it as a model to prepare the new one. |
| 18:30 | gmcharlt | |Lupin|: yes - OK to use it as a model |
| 18:31 | atz | @seen kados |
| 18:31 | munin | atz: I have not seen kados. |
| 18:31 | pianohacker | atz: He hasn't been in here for a while, though he's occasionally available on freenode |
| 18:31 | |Lupin| | gmcharlt: ok, thanks. Shall I submit an enhancement bug for this one, too, or is it okay to just send the patch and indicate its similarity with the previously mentionned 3440 ? |
| 18:31 | gmcharlt | |Lupin|: file a new bug |
| 18:32 | |Lupin| | gmcharlt: ok, will do so, thanks, sorry for having disturbed you. |
| 18:32 | gmcharlt | not at all |
| 18:37 | brendan | good morning #koha |
| 18:37 | finally back from my honeymoon and ready to do some work | |
| 18:37 | |Lupin| | :) |
| 18:38 | good evening brendan :-) | |
| 18:38 | pianohacker | brendan: Hey |
| 18:38 | gmcharlt | hi brendan |
| 18:38 | brendan | evening Lupin |
| 18:38 | gmcharlt | congrats! |
| 18:38 | brendan | thanks gmcharlt |
| 18:38 | wizzyrea | ohh... your head is clear then... |
| 18:38 | pianohacker | We have some encoding issues we want you to take a look at |
| 18:38 | wizzyrea | and congratulations |
| 18:38 | pianohacker | Congratulations, though :) |
| 18:38 | brendan | sweet :) |
| 18:39 | pianohacker | They only occur on a full moon when the user stands on one leg |
| 18:39 | brendan | and you need a left-handed smoke signal |
| 18:40 | pianohacker | Hehehe |
| 18:40 | Where'd you go for your honeymoon? | |
| 18:40 | |Lupin| | see you later everybody ! |
| 18:40 | bye | |
| 18:40 | pianohacker | bye |
| 18:40 | brendan | We went to Catalina Island off the coast of LA |
| 18:40 | Los Angeles | |
| 18:40 | pianohacker | Sounds peaceful |
| 18:42 | ebegin | brendan is married!!! congratulation! brendan++ brendan++ brendan++ brendan++ brendan++ some extra karma points for him :) |
| 18:42 | @karma brendan | |
| 18:42 | munin | ebegin: Karma for "brendan" has been increased 7 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 7. |
| 18:43 | atz | ... he'll need'm. |
| 18:43 | brendan | thanks |
| 18:43 | ebegin | atz, hehe |
| 18:43 | brendan | if should really be Sonja++ |
| 18:43 | gmcharlt | Sonja++ |
| 18:43 | pianohacker | Sonja++ |
| 18:43 | atz | congratulations, brendan |
| 18:43 | brendan | thanks atz |
| 18:44 | time to read a months back log of emails | |
| 18:44 | :( | |
| 18:57 | owen | Hi brendan, welcome back |
| 18:57 | brendan | heya owen :) |
| 19:00 | jdavidb | pianohacker++ #New syspref editor... |
| 19:00 | wizzyrea | yea, hawtness |
| 19:01 | pianohacker | I've managed to get more karma mileage out of one screenshot and some fast talking... |
| 19:01 | Snow_Fox | lol |
| 19:01 | wizzyrea | pianohacker++ |
| 19:01 | pianohacker | heh |
| 19:01 | jdavidb | @karma pianohacker |
| 19:01 | munin | jdavidb: Karma for "pianohacker" has been increased 15 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 15. |
| 19:02 | wizzyrea | heh... we'll turn you into a bitter old IT guy someday |
| 19:02 | pianohacker | Hehe |
| 19:02 | Grumbling about users forgetting their passwords and how Windows XV is a pile of crap | |
| 19:02 | jdavidb | He'd make a great PFY, though, wizzyrea ....he already has the cynical nature of the BOFH...just needs more practice. |
| 19:03 | pianohacker | Seriously, if any devs have a little spare time, I'd appreciate some code nitpicking |
| 19:06 | owen | :) |
| 19:07 | pianohacker | That would also be helpful. |
| 19:20 | wizzyrea | jdavidb so what you're saying is... we should go over your patches and make them purty? |
| 19:22 | jdavidb | Oh, somewhat, wizzyrea. I try to take care of the basics. In particular, though, when it comes to a webpage, I tend to make things really sparse and functional. People like owen are nice to have around. |
| 19:24 | chris | morning |
| 19:24 | owen | Hi chris |
| 19:24 | gmcharlt | hi chris |
| 19:25 | jdavidb | howdy, chris! :) |
| 19:25 | jwagner | Morning, chris |
| 19:29 | brendan | morning chris jdavidb jwagner |
| 19:29 | jdavidb | Hiya, brendan! :) |
| 19:29 | pianohacker | Good morning, chris |
| 19:33 | rhcl | chris: I know Auckland and Wellington aren't close, but is Stewart Lewisgendig21.lbr.auckland.ac.nz anybody you might know by chance? (I'm reading lbr as possible library) |
| 19:34 | chris | us wellingtonians try not to mix with dorklanders |
| 19:34 | :-) | |
| 19:34 | nope havent run across that name before | |
| 19:35 | the .ac tells me academic institution | |
| 19:35 | wizzyrea | dorklanders... priceless |
| 19:35 | chris | so will be auckland university |
| 19:36 | work on dspace huh? | |
| 19:38 | rhcl: don't know him, can probably find someone who does tho :) | |
| 19:38 | wizzyrea: dorkland or bucklame | |
| 19:38 | rhcl | yea, dspace |
| 19:54 | chris | rhcl: do you want me to ask around? or was it idle curiousity? |
| 19:55 | ive heard some of those west virginian ones | |
| 19:55 | from pennsylvannians | |
| 19:55 | we tend not to make jokes about marrying your cousin | |
| 19:56 | so probably not the same :-) | |
| 19:56 | its probably more those kinda jokes the aucklanders make about us | |
| 19:56 | they are the sophisticated by city after all :-) | |
| 19:56 | by=big | |
| 19:58 | owen | Here's the one I first heard when I moved to Ohio: Why did the West Virginians build a bridge over the Ohio river to Ohio? |
| 19:58 | So they could swim across in the shade. | |
| 19:58 | <rimshot> | |
| 19:59 | Thanks everyone, I'll be here all week! | |
| 19:59 | rhcl | chris: sorry, no, it was just idle curiosity on my part when I saw he was somehow involved with Dspace and from NZ |
| 20:03 | chris | 3cool |
| 20:03 | hmm -3 | |
| 20:03 | ok work time | |
| 20:03 | bbl | |
| 20:15 | wizzyrea | owen++ # for jokes and the admonition to tip your waitresses |
| 20:21 | cau0730 | hi everyone. sorry i have been really coding today so i needed to stay away from talking :) |
| 20:22 | i have been working on our Koha<->SIS connection. This is exactly why we branched our code | |
| 20:25 | rhcl | SIS = Student Information System? |
| 20:28 | cau0730 | yes |
| 20:31 | rhcl | I subscribe to a list which includes a lot of school sysadmins. I'm not familiar with them, but the sysadmins seem to generally dislike whichever SIS they happen to have. |
| 20:32 | They seem to need a lot of attention. | |
| 20:32 | cau0730 | our boss undertook this 3 years ago and the old team couldn't get it done, but we have a working product all ready within 1 year. now i am working on integration with Koha and the SIS |
| 20:32 | that is why we have decided to create our own | |
| 20:32 | rhcl | Are you doing a SIP connection or something more than that. |
| 20:32 | ? | |
| 20:33 | cau0730 | between Koha and our SIS? |
| 20:33 | rhcl | Yes |
| 20:35 | cau0730 | it is connections from one db to another right now. it is more than enough for what we want to accomplish |
| 20:35 | for instance... | |
| 20:35 | i have have Packages for SIS. One of the functions looks like | |
| 20:35 | sub deleteStudentsWithNoIssues() | |
| 20:35 | { | |
| 20:35 | my $koha_dbh = C4::Context->dbh; | |
| 20:35 | ||
| 20:35 | my $koha_sth = $koha_dbh->prepare("select borrowernumber,userid,cardnumber,homeroom,branchcode,firstname,surname from borrowers where borrowers.categorycode='ST' order by branchcode"); | |
| 20:35 | $koha_sth->execute(); | |
| 20:35 | my $i = 0; | |
| 20:35 | while (my ($borrowernumber,$userid,$cardnumber,$homeroom,$branchcode,$first_name,$last_name) = $sth->fetchrow()) | |
| 20:36 | { | |
| 20:36 | my $koha_has_issues_sth = $koha_dbh->prepare("select 1 from issues where borrowernumber=? and returndate is NULL"); | |
| 20:36 | $koha_has_issues_sth->execute($borrowernumber); | |
| 20:36 | ||
| 20:36 | if (!$has_issues_sth->rows) | |
| 20:36 | { | |
| 20:36 | $koha_dbh->do("delete from borrowers where borrowernumber=$borrowernumber"); | |
| 20:36 | $i++; | |
| 20:36 | } | |
| 20:36 | } | |
| 20:36 | return $i; | |
| 20:36 | } | |
| 20:36 | oops i see paraenthesis | |
| 20:36 | rhcl | Oh, yes, ic ic |
| 20:37 | cau0730 | and that is a bad example cause it doesn't connect to the SIS db but you get the idea |
| 20:37 | rhcl | yes, indeed |
| 20:37 | cau0730 | so the plan is to add cron scripts that update borrowers every time a new student is added |
| 20:38 | this is a good one | |
| 20:38 | sub getLibrarianForSchool | |
| 20:38 | { | |
| 20:38 | my $building_code = shift; | |
| 20:38 | my $dbh = SIS::Context->dbh; | |
| 20:38 | my $sth = $dbh->prepare("select first_name,last_name,email from hrdata_employee,hrdata_hiredemployee,hrdata_genericjob,hrdata_job,hrdata_job_facility,facility_facility where facility_facility.building_code=? and hrdata_job_facility.facility_id=facility_facility.id and hrdata_job.id=hrdata_job_facility.job_id and hrdata_genericjob.id=hrdata_job.generic_job_id and hrdata_genericjob.title like 'Libra%' and hrdata_hiredemployee.job_title_id=hrdata_job_facility.job | |
| 20:38 | $sth->execute($building_code); | |
| 20:38 | my $row = $sth->fetchrow_hashref(); | |
| 20:38 | $sth->finish(); | |
| 20:38 | return $row; | |
| 20:38 | } | |
| 20:39 | that gets the email address of the librarian. this way if the librarian changes in the SIS then it changes in koha. since there are two dbs we need this functionality | |
| 20:40 | and of course they are written in two different languages | |
| 20:42 | i will say that this isn't the best way to do it but i am under a real time crunch for koha to stay in our school division and without koha i could possibly be out of a job | |
| 20:43 | richard | hi |
| 20:43 | cau0730 | hi richard |
| 20:44 | chris | back |
| 20:56 | Sharon | quick reports question - does biblio.title include 245 $b, $p and $n? Trying to overcome that cart bug discovered yesterday via a report. |
| 20:56 | cau0730 | i don't think it does. not in 2.2 at least |
| 20:56 | Sharon | crudders |
| 20:56 | cau0730 | what bug? |
| 20:57 | Sharon | 3455 |
| 20:57 | cau0730 | ah i don't look at the koha bugs cause i am using an outdated version lol |
| 20:58 | Sharon | are they making you feel bad about not using 3.0?? |
| 20:58 | cau0730 | lol :) nope i wish we were using 3 :) |
| 21:01 | chris | Sharon: nope is the answer |
| 21:02 | you can check by going to /cgi-bin/koha/admin/koha2marclinks.pl | |
| 21:02 | it tells me title = 245a | |
| 21:02 | Sharon | ok. I want full titles in my report, not just a |
| 21:02 | am I outta luck? | |
| 21:03 | chris | using the report writer? |
| 21:03 | yep | |
| 21:03 | the 245b is in the marcxml | |
| 21:03 | so you would have to have a custom report to get it out | |
| 21:03 | Sharon | ugh. no 6xx at all |
| 21:03 | chris | that used to be in bibliosubject |
| 21:03 | but that table got deaded | |
| 21:03 | Sharon | i have my support request in now. |
| 21:04 | atz | if it's not in the table, you're not going to get it from report writer |
| 21:04 | there's no way around that | |
| 21:04 | chris | yep thats what i said :) |
| 21:04 | need a custom report that gets it from marcxml | |
| 21:04 | atz | I defy anybody to try parsing MARCXML w/ mysql regexps |
| 21:04 | chris | she didnt say she wanted to search it, she just wanted to display it |
| 21:05 | atz | chris: right, a custom script can do it |
| 21:05 | chris | id just write a little search that uses zebra |
| 21:05 | Sharon | well Joe, when the request comes in, you can jump on it ;-) |
| 21:05 | chris | or C4::Search |
| 21:05 | and not bother with doing sql ;) | |
| 21:05 | Sharon | or just fix the damn bug and show the full 245 in the cart/list |
| 21:06 | chris | oh is that it? |
| 21:06 | is the bug just that the cart uses biblio.title? | |
| 21:06 | Sharon | yes, i think so. |
| 21:06 | chris | the trick with that sharon |
| 21:07 | is title isnt the same in UNIMARC | |
| 21:07 | thats why we map it, and use it | |
| 21:07 | Sharon | Ah, international issues. |
| 21:07 | chris | but, we could make the cart use xslt |
| 21:07 | to get round that | |
| 21:07 | maybe | |
| 21:07 | Sharon | makes sense, but still very needed. Try finding a Go Diego Go video without a subtitle...impossible |
| 21:07 | chris | whatcha reckon atz? |
| 21:08 | atz | there's also biblio.unititle and .seriestitle |
| 21:08 | chris | yeah |
| 21:08 | atz | biblio.abstract |
| 21:08 | chris | there was another table for subtitles |
| 21:08 | atz | biblioitems.volume |
| 21:09 | Sharon | and a 3rd table for parts and numbers?? |
| 21:09 | chris | does anyone ever use unititle? |
| 21:09 | atz | biblioitems.number .publicationyear .volumedate .volumedesc .collectiontitle .editionstatement .editionresponsitbility |
| 21:09 | Sharon | maybe academics |
| 21:10 | chris | what we really need is somewehre to link 245b to eh? |
| 21:10 | Sharon | and 245n and 245p |
| 21:11 | atz | what is volumedesc, if not a description of the volume? |
| 21:11 | Sharon | if patrons try to use the cart/list to create a bibliography, the full title is needed |
| 21:12 | biblioitems.volume and biblioitems.volumedesc - i'll play with these | |
| 21:20 | cau0730 | got to go... later all |
| 22:00 | pianohacker | chris: Thanks for putting up the demo. Can't get in, though, what's a valid login? |
| 22:04 | chris | http://andreiz.tumblr.com/post[…]achines-they-work |
| 22:11 | rhcl | SMUG photo: http://twitpic.com/c60np |
| 22:17 | pianohacker | bbl |
| 22:19 | chris | http://librarian.koha.workbuff[…]in/preferences.pl |
| 22:19 | ask me for a login if you want to take a look at pianohacker's new preferences stuff | |
| 22:27 | brendan | later #koha |
| 23:49 | pianohacker | back |
| 01:45 | Good night | |
| 03:19 | Amit | hi chris, brendan |
| 03:19 | good morning #koha | |
| 03:19 | @wunder New Delhi India | |
| 03:19 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 30.0°C (8:30 AM IST on July 31, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). |
| 03:45 | brendan | heya Amit |
| 03:47 | Amit | cong for marriage |
| 03:47 | brendan | |
| 03:47 | brendan | thanks amit |
| 03:47 | amit++ | |
| 03:48 | Amit | brendan: whr is my party /treat |
| 03:48 | ? | |
| 03:48 | brendan | in the mail :) |
| 03:50 | Amit | whr is mail? |
| 03:50 | brendan: i have not rec any mail | |
| 03:51 | brendan | :) |
| 04:37 | @wunder 93103 | |
| 04:37 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Upper Riviera - Camino Alto, Santa Barbara, California is 16.7°C (9:37 PM PDT on July 30, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Rising). |
| 04:55 | Amit | @wunder dehradun india |
| 04:55 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 27.0°C (8:30 AM IST on July 31, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 29.49 in 998 hPa. |
| 05:44 | Amit | hi nicomo |
| 05:44 | nicomo | hi Amit |
| 05:44 | hi #koha | |
| 05:46 | kf | good morning |
| 05:46 | chris here? | |
| 06:09 | Amit | hi kf |
| 06:10 | kf | hi Amit |
| 06:37 | Amit | hi indradg_ |
| 06:38 | indradg_ | Amit, morning dude |
| 06:38 | Amit | indradg_: hw is life in kolkata |
| 07:00 | chris | am now kf |
| 07:02 | kf | hi chris |
| 07:03 | I saw the link to your koha installation... and was curious about the new syspref editor | |
| 07:04 | chris | ahhh i think you know the password already :) |
| 07:04 | i set you one to check the translation once i think? | |
| 07:08 | kf | yes... but I lost it :( |
| 07:16 | thx chris! | |
| 07:22 | chris | http://socialnetworkinglibrari[…]catalog-programs/ |
| 07:22 | everone should comment here :) | |
| 07:39 | Amit | hi chirs |
| 07:39 | chris | hi Amit |
| 07:39 | Amit | i m checking ur URL |
| 10:09 | chris around | |
| 10:09 | whr is get_today() subroutine is defined in smsoverdues.pl |
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