← Previous day | Today | Next day → | Search | Index
All times shown according to UTC.
| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:08 | CGI566 | hi |
| 12:08 | did any anybody know about extending the user login session | |
| 12:29 | Amit | hi jwagner |
| 12:50 | nicomo | CGI566: see system preference Timeout |
| 12:59 | martinmorris | hi is there a quick way of deleting a number of biblios and their associated items? on the command line? |
| 13:00 | gmcharlt | via SQL you can delete from biblio and it should cascade - make sure that you don't have any circ or acq transactions attached |
| 13:00 | then you'd run rebuild_zebra -b -r to update indexes | |
| 13:00 | martinmorris | ah, simple as that. i was a bit nervous about doing it directly in the db but i'll give that a go for some and see what happens |
| 13:00 | thanks! | |
| 13:09 | worked a treat, thanks! | |
| 15:15 | atz | gmcharlt_ can you or chris unsubscribe Ed Sharpe from the Koha list? i'm sick of getting his auto-replies for every message I send... |
| 15:15 | "If you have gotten this message you have emailed SMECC. | |
| 15:15 | (Or your virus affected computer may have... if so get a good service tech) | |
| 15:15 | (Also if your mail server has problems and is infected YOU need to fix that I do not want to be inolved!) | |
| 15:15 | You Have Contacted SMECC - THE MUSEUM!" | |
| 15:15 | gmcharlt | atz: sure - I'll confirm request with Chris next time he's online |
| 15:16 | as Ed hasn't responded to any requests to kill the autoresponder | |
| 15:16 | he's had more than enough to correct it | |
| 15:17 | owen | The Museum! As opposed to what, THE TASTY SNACK? |
| 15:17 | gmcharlt | SMECC - THE FOLKS WHO HAVE LISTENED TO THE WRONG MARKETING CONSULTANT!!!!!!!! |
| 15:48 | owen | I wonder if it would be better to include the "tab" grouping as part of system preference data (along with explanation, value, etc) |
| 15:48 | atz | not really, imho |
| 15:49 | gmcharlt | as a separate layer, I think so |
| 15:49 | for one thing, would mean that the A-Z issue could be fixed for all languages | |
| 15:50 | but I agree with atz that there shouldn't be particularly tight coupling between the prefs and how they are presented | |
| 15:54 | ziqbal | hi to all |
| 15:58 | i am new to this chat room, and hope that this chat room is good for me to solve koha problems | |
| 15:59 | i am new to this chat room , and hope the chat room is good for me to solve koha problems | |
| 16:00 | gmcharlt | welcome ziqbal |
| 16:24 | pianohacker | Good morning |
| 16:33 | gmcharlt | hi pianohacker |
| 16:33 | pianohacker | hello |
| 16:33 | wizzyrea | wow the yelling!! |
| 16:34 | pianohacker | wizzyrea: WHAT DO YOU MEAN? |
| 16:35 | wizzyrea | *giggle* |
| 16:50 | pianohacker | The hangover will subside eventually |
| 16:57 | jdavidb | pianohacker: Kinda wish I had a hangover to justify the crummy way I feel today...bleh. |
| 17:07 | joetho | Elizabeth? |
| 17:15 | pianohacker | wizzyrea is not very responsive |
| 17:15 | We must mount an expedition to Kansas to find out why | |
| 17:23 | Sharon | we were in a meeting and now she's a lunch |
| 17:23 | pianohacker | Ah. Food takes priority |
| 17:49 | wizzyrea | lordy, you try staying on top of things when you've had the ick for 2.5 weeks (and the dr tells you it's "just a virus..." bite me, plzkthx) |
| 17:59 | joetho | I withdraw my question |
| 18:00 | chris | good old ed sharpe, he is in koha folklore already, this will just increase that |
| 18:00 | removing now | |
| 18:02 | pianohacker | Ahh, he's an archivist at smecc |
| 18:03 | chris | he is infamous for yelling constantly about lccn |
| 18:04 | pianohacker | I believe you've told me about him, yes |
| 18:04 | He also seems to have wanted complete install testing of every Koha release | |
| 18:07 | chris | he is usually right |
| 18:07 | http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]March/013264.html | |
| 18:09 | pianohacker | Huh |
| 18:11 | Syntax error near ",,,," | |
| 18:11 | edsharpesmessage has too many errors | |
| 18:12 | chris | heh |
| 18:17 | wizzyrea | ooh, from aol.com... I take that very seriously |
| 18:17 | (complete with typos) | |
| 18:20 | hm we really ought to take a look at that "about koha -> dev team" page :P | |
| 18:20 | chris | out of date? |
| 18:21 | wizzyrea | yea, it is. |
| 18:21 | chris | oh yeah, it has russel and i at liblime still, well sorta |
| 18:21 | send a patch :) | |
| 19:04 | joetho | the picture shows chris with a full beard and hippie beads. |
| 19:04 | go look | |
| 19:04 | chris | heh |
| 19:04 | joetho | you didn't look. |
| 19:04 | chris | i did have a goatee once |
| 19:05 | joetho | Sigh. |
| 19:05 | chris | never a full beard tho |
| 19:05 | and that was only for half a year at uni | |
| 19:11 | heya owen | |
| 19:12 | owen | Hi chris |
| 19:12 | How'd Monday treat you? | |
| 19:13 | chris | not bad not bad |
| 19:14 | had a bake sale, raised 430$ for the kids of one of the staff | |
| 19:14 | to help towards his buying a drum machine | |
| 19:14 | owen | That's quite a haul! |
| 19:14 | chris | yep |
| 19:14 | nicomo | how much is the NZ$ worth? |
| 19:14 | in US$? | |
| 19:14 | owen | Heh, are you trying to punish his parents for some reason? :) |
| 19:15 | chris | @gcalc 430nzd in usd |
| 19:15 | munin | chris: 430 New Zealand dollars = 281.65 U.S. dollars |
| 19:15 | chris | hehe naw, hes a pretty unwell young fulla |
| 19:15 | somethign to brighten up his day | |
| 19:16 | i think the total is now 738 | |
| 19:16 | nicomo | @wunder lyon, france |
| 19:16 | munin | nicomo: The current temperature in Feyzin, Feyzin, France is 27.6°C (9:00 PM CEST on July 20, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:18 | chris | got a long day today, with a go live after 6pm |
| 19:18 | so im working up to it | |
| 19:18 | :) | |
| 19:25 | pianohacker | owen: Around? |
| 19:25 | owen | Yes |
| 19:25 | pianohacker | So there's a couple of sysprefs, opacstylesheet and opaclayoutstylesheet. The OPAC uses the first if it's defined, otherwise the second, otherwise opac.css. Do you know anything about this weird setup/how it is used? |
| 19:26 | owen | Weird? I use it all the time! |
| 19:26 | The problem is that they're now misnamed | |
| 19:26 | chris | thats cos you are weird too :) |
| 19:26 | pianohacker | Why would you want both? |
| 19:26 | Since only one will be used? | |
| 19:27 | owen | No, that misses the "cascade" part of "Cascading Style Sheets" |
| 19:28 | The second one overrides the first one, *if* you've specified a property to be overridden | |
| 19:28 | Your "opaccolorstylesheet" file can contain only minor changes if you want: background colors, logo, stuff like that | |
| 19:28 | Or you can supply styles to alter the layout significantly if you wanted to go that far | |
| 19:29 | They should really be named "opacdefaultstylesheet" and "opaccustomstylesheet" or something like that | |
| 19:29 | pianohacker | owen: Yes, I know about opaccolorstylesheet. The intranet's setup makes sense; intranetstylesheet to replace staff-global.css, intranetcolorstylsheet to supplement it |
| 19:30 | But the OPAC has _three_ stylesheet preferences. opacstylesheet and opaclayoutstylesheet, both of which replace opac.css (but only one of them), and opaccolorstylesheet, which supplements opac.css | |
| 19:30 | My question is: Why do you want opacstylesheet and opaclayoutstylesheet, given that they perform the same function | |
| 19:32 | owen | Because if you're customizing an OPAC it's easier to manage a custom stylesheet that only contains what you *need* for the customizations |
| 19:32 | Sorry--that's not in reference to opacstylesheet. | |
| 19:33 | opacstylesheet: "Enter a complete URL to use an alternate layout stylesheet in OPAC" | |
| 19:33 | That means you can specify an *offsite* CSS file as your custom CSS. | |
| 19:34 | This could be used if, for instance, your Koha installation was hosted and you didn't have access to the filesystem that held the default stylesheet | |
| 19:35 | It's just a different way of managing things. I'm not sure what particular need prompted the addition of that one, but it's been around for a while. | |
| 19:35 | Sorry I misunderstood your initial question. | |
| 19:40 | CGI151 | Liz...did you post anything new on git? |
| 19:46 | pianohacker | owen: Gah, ok. A closer reading of the code makes that clear |
| 19:46 | Thanks | |
| 19:49 | The main reason I'm picking your brain about all this is for the new syspref editor, which will at least make things a tad easier to deal with. The sysprefs will still have names, but much better descriptions | |
| 19:50 | *still have weird names | |
| 19:51 | owen | Any chance for hierarchical sys prefs? |
| 19:52 | pianohacker | owen: In what sense? |
| 19:52 | There will be groups of sysprefs, inside tabs | |
| 19:52 | So a three-level, rather than two-level, hierarchy in that sense | |
| 19:52 | owen | For instance: Don't show individual Syndetics prefs unless the main "Syndetics = ON" pref is active |
| 19:53 | pianohacker | Ahh, I see what you mean. I've thought a bit about that, and it should be possible to implement |
| 19:54 | But there are still enough obstacles (the godforsaken translator, getting all of the tabs written, adding the prefs that have been added since I started this project) that it might have to wait until after 3.2 (which I am hoping to get this into) | |
| 19:54 | chris | that would rule |
| 19:54 | yeah, go for the kaizen approach :) | |
| 19:55 | pianohacker | chris: Hah, yeah |
| 19:55 | gmcharlt | pianohacker++ |
| 19:56 | pianohacker | Heh. You might want to wait until I've got the dang thing written; I've been _talking_ about it for about four months now |
| 19:56 | chris | hehe |
| 19:57 | CGI253 | Just curious, anyone migrated over to koha from alexandria ? |
| 19:58 | pianohacker | CGI253: This alexandria? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A[…]ia_%28software%29 |
| 19:59 | If so, you might have to write some custom scripts to do so, as it looks like it doesn't have MARC export | |
| 20:00 | CGI253 | http://www.goalexandria.com/ |
| 20:01 | gmcharlt | CGI253: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=cmsdconversion |
| 20:02 | CGI253 | Yea, read that... still a work in progress I guess. Will keep working at it. |
| 20:02 | chris | ok time to go catch my bus |
| 20:37 | dipanjan | gmcharlt: ping |
| 20:37 | gmcharlt | dipanjan: pong |
| 20:38 | atz | patch sent for sillyness in adv. search template |
| 20:38 | dipanjan | if I want to build zebra from source, do I do it for version 2.0.40 or some other version? |
| 20:38 | gmcharlt: ^^ | |
| 20:39 | gmcharlt | dipanjan: go with the latest stable version that ID has |
| 20:39 | 2.0.40 should be fine | |
| 20:39 | dipanjan | gmcharlt: thanks. will get back |
| 20:44 | chris | back |
| 20:50 | richard | hi |
| 20:50 | chris | heya richard |
| 21:44 | pianohacker | xorg-- |
| 21:47 | chris | heh |
| 23:40 | pianohacker | 'gnight, #koha |
| 02:53 | mason | have a rebuild_zebra.pl question.. |
| 02:53 | i | |
| 02:54 | when running rebuild_zebra.pl with -z , what difference does the '-w' switch do ?? | |
| 02:55 | -w skip shadow indexing for this batch | |
| 03:03 | skipping something sounds faster!!, which is good... | |
| 03:06 | can the indexed records still be searched, with the shadow-indexing skipped? | |
| 03:06 | i havent tested yet :/ | |
| 03:08 | hmmm... | |
| 03:08 | http://www.indexdata.com/zebra[…]ow-registers.html | |
| 03:09 | so shadow-indeing is slower, but safer.. | |
| 03:11 | skipping shadow-indexing is faster, but it locks up requests (eg: searching?) while the batch is updating ? | |
| 03:11 | if so , then -w isnt really an option for a prod-system | |
| 03:24 | Amit | hi chris |
| 03:24 | good morning #koha | |
| 03:38 | SelfishMan | mason: I believe that is correct but I haven't played with that for a while |
| 03:38 | I don't think it locks it so much as may have undesirable results | |
| 03:39 | mason | heya |
| 03:39 | "Further, while the update process is active, users cannot be allowed to access the system, as the contents of the register files may change unpredictably." | |
| 03:40 | looks like it locks, and gives unpredictable results too :) | |
| 03:43 | Amit | hi mason |
| 03:44 | hi mason, Selfish Man | |
| 03:44 | mason | heya amit, good morning to you |
| 06:35 | Amit | hi nicomo |
| 06:36 | nicomo | hi Amit |
| 06:36 | hi #koha | |
| 06:54 | chris around? | |
| 09:38 | Amit | hi kf |
| 09:54 | kf | hi Amit |
| 10:34 | martinmorris | hello, is there any way of uploading the RDF/XML LCSH headings at id.loc.gov into koha? |
| 10:34 | just getting my head around that format | |
| 11:28 | gmcharlt | martinmorris: not directly - you'd have to convert them to MARC or MARCXML authority records first |
| 11:29 | martinmorris | with a perl script of some kind perhaps? |
| 11:29 | i've been having a look, i can see it's a rather different format | |
| 11:29 | gmcharlt | and the RDF at id.loc.gov doesn't retain enough of the original structure to do that accurately |
| 11:29 | Amit | hi galen |
| 11:29 | gmcharlt | hi Amit |
| 11:29 | martinmorris | yes, so i see |
| 11:29 | no 500 tags for example | |
| 11:29 | gmcharlt | subdivisions not identified, as another example |
| 11:30 | martinmorris | yes |
← Previous day | Today | Next day → | Search | Index