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| 14:08 | martinmorris | Hello, is there anybody who can give me a bit of advice about ERROR 114 I'm getting when searching my authorities? |
| 15:19 | hello again, won't keep being a pest (honest!) but just trying again in case there's anybody who might be able to help with my ERROR 114 problem when searching authorities | |
| 15:31 | gmcharlt | martinmorris: does it make any difference which sort option you use (none, heading a-z, heading z-a)? |
| 15:31 | martinmorris | hi gm |
| 15:31 | no, no difference at all | |
| 15:32 | the error is at the actual search stage, and comes up in the log files | |
| 15:35 | gmcharlt | I mean the sort option you select before you execute the search |
| 15:35 | martinmorris | no, it makes no difference at all |
| 15:35 | i also get the error if i execute the search on the command line using yaz-client | |
| 15:40 | gmcharlt | martinmorris: please try this variant in yaz-client |
| 15:40 | @attrset Bib-1 @or @attr 1=8001 @attr 7=1 0 @and @attr 5=100 @attr 1=9000 PERSO_NAME @attr 4=6 @attr 5=1 @attr 1=8001 smith | |
| 15:40 | martinmorris | give me two secs |
| 15:40 | gmcharlt | change 'smith' to your actual search |
| 15:42 | martinmorris | unknown command: @attrset |
| 15:42 | gmcharlt | sorry f @attrset... |
| 15:42 | martinmorris | :) |
| 15:43 | works perfectly :) | |
| 15:43 | gmcharlt | ok, let's try another part of the query |
| 15:43 | f @attr 5=100 @attr 1=9000 PERSO_NAME | |
| 15:44 | martinmorris | just type that in with my query? |
| 15:44 | no, that doesn't work | |
| 15:44 | gmcharlt | no, in yaz-client, as a separate query |
| 15:45 | martinmorris | right, yes that works |
| 15:45 | i do a show all afterwards and both the authorities in there come up | |
| 15:46 | i'll have to read up more on what all these things mean | |
| 15:48 | gmcharlt | ok, the last bit to try |
| 15:48 | f @attr "1=Heading" @attr 7=1 0 | |
| 15:49 | martinmorris | that worked with no errors, but came up with 0 hits |
| 15:51 | gmcharlt | but the full f @attrset Bib-1 @or @attr "1=Heading" @attr 7=1 0 @and @attr 5=100 @attr "1=authtype" PERSO_NAME @attr 5=1 @attr 4=1 @attr 3=2 @attr "1=Heading" smith |
| 15:52 | fails? | |
| 15:52 | martinmorris | hmm, no actually that has just worked |
| 15:52 | hold on | |
| 15:57 | gmcharlt | ok, I think I see what's going on - as a temporary measure, in C4/AuthoritiesMarc.pm change instances of '1=Heading-Main' to '1=Heading' |
| 15:58 | martinmorris | aaaah! |
| 16:00 | so i need to change that somehow? | |
| 16:00 | yes, i can see the difference | |
| 16:16 | gmcharlt | martinmorris: does it work now? |
| 16:17 | martinmorris | i wasn't quite sure what to change, is there somewhere obvious in that module? |
| 16:18 | gmcharlt | look around line 223 |
| 16:18 | 21 ##If mainentry search $a tag | |
| 16:18 | 222 if (@$tags[$i] eq "mainmainentry") { | |
| 16:18 | 223 $attr =" \@attr 1=Heading-Main "; | |
| 16:18 | 224 }elsif (@$tags[$i] eq "mainentry") { | |
| 16:19 | martinmorris | and just change that to Heading? |
| 16:19 | gmcharlt | yes |
| 16:19 | martinmorris | so is this something that needs fixing in koha then? or simply that i need a different version of that module? |
| 16:20 | gmcharlt | it needs to be fixed in Koha - Heading-Main is defined in indexes of UNIMARC authority records but not of MARC21 |
| 16:21 | martinmorris | aaah :) |
| 16:21 | ok thanks very much for that, would never have got that on my own | |
| 16:21 | let me try now | |
| 16:22 | yep, works wonderfully, thank you so much | |
| 16:23 | gmcharlt | ok - please file a bug on bugs.koha.org so we don't lose track of it |
| 16:23 | martinmorris | will do, thanks |
| 16:29 | do you need to know about whether i'm using DOM etc in the description? | |
| 16:34 | it's bug 3429 | |
| 16:34 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3429 major, P5, ---, galen.charltonliblime.com, NEW, Searching fails for MARC21 authorities with ERROR 114 in zebrasrv log |
| 16:34 | martinmorris | ah, didn't know that would happen |
| 16:34 | gmcharlt | that's OK, I want munin to be helpful like that |
| 16:35 | martinmorris | thanks again for your help |
| 16:35 | gmcharlt | you're welcome |
| 17:05 | hi jwagner, paul_p | |
| 17:05 | jwagner | Hi gmcharlt! |
| 18:56 | chris | morning |
| 18:59 | jdavidb | Morning, chris! |
| 18:59 | chris | hows the weekend goin? |
| 19:00 | jdavidb | Going well. I went over to Baltimore yesterday for a big art festival there--was *very* late getting back. |
| 19:02 | chris | sounds like fun :) |
| 20:46 | richard | hi |
| 20:46 | chris | hiya richard |
| 20:46 | richard | hi chris |
| 20:46 | chris | get out in the sun in the weekend? |
| 20:47 | richard | did yesterday. it was good to be able to do it |
| 20:47 | chris | yeah |
| 20:55 | martinmorris | hi there, can anybody tell me why biblios I've deleted are still appearing in searches, even after rebuilding my zebra index? |
| 20:55 | chris | nope |
| 20:55 | if you have rebuilt your index they should not be showing | |
| 20:55 | martinmorris | fair enough :) |
| 20:56 | when i click on the title, i get a koha error page | |
| 20:56 | chris | have you done a full rebuild (ie with -r) |
| 20:56 | martinmorris | ah, no i haven't :) |
| 20:56 | that'll be the reason, thank you | |
| 20:56 | chris | (whcih deletes and rebuild the index completely) |
| 20:56 | martinmorris | should i also avoid using the -w flag? |
| 20:56 | chris | however if you have the cronjob running, it should be removing things as you delete |
| 20:57 | martinmorris | that's something i need to set up actually, haven't quite got round to it |
| 20:57 | chris | ahh that'll be the problem |
| 20:57 | when you run rebuild_zebra what optiosn are you giving it? | |
| 20:57 | martinmorris | well, i was using -b -w -v |
| 20:57 | but i understand now, that's OK | |
| 20:57 | chris | right, so you have 2 options |
| 20:58 | you either rebuild in full with -r | |
| 20:58 | martinmorris | yep |
| 20:58 | chris | or you run with -z |
| 20:58 | which tells it to look at what is in the zebraqueue table and process that | |
| 20:58 | there will be rows in there telling it to delete items | |
| 20:58 | martinmorris | ah ok, and what's in the zebraqueue will be my deleted biblios |
| 20:58 | chris | *nod* |
| 20:59 | martinmorris | will that also work for modified biblios, like where i link it to an authority? |
| 20:59 | chris | thats what the cron job runs with (-z) |
| 20:59 | martinmorris | (-z that is) |
| 20:59 | chris | yes |
| 20:59 | martinmorris | fantastic, thanks |
| 20:59 | chris | any action that modifies the marc gets a row in the zebraqueue table, which then rebuild_zebra with the -z actions |
| 21:00 | martinmorris | so in that case a full rebuild with -r -b is pretty rare? |
| 21:00 | chris | yeah |
| 21:00 | id only do that if i did some changes to the db, not using the web interface | |
| 21:01 | martinmorris | i did seem a rather laborious way to work - glad i've got that straight |
| 21:01 | i need to get those cron jobs set up | |
| 21:01 | chris | yeah having rebuild_zebra run regularly makes for a more useful koha ;) |
| 21:08 | martinmorris | now i've just run ./rebuild_zebra.pl -b -z and it hasn't cleared a biblio i've just deleted |
| 21:09 | chris | you can check the zebraqueue table |
| 21:09 | martinmorris | that's in the mysql database? |
| 21:09 | chris | yep |
| 21:09 | martinmorris | just found it |
| 21:10 | chris | look for any rows that have done=0 |
| 21:10 | martinmorris | it's got 6207 rows |
| 21:10 | no rows | |
| 21:10 | chris | right dod you know the biblionumber of the one you deleted? |
| 21:10 | dod=do | |
| 21:10 | martinmorris | i'm just doing another one which is 191 |
| 21:11 | and still get an empty set | |
| 21:11 | chris | you can then do select * from zebraqueue where biblio_auth_number = 191; |
| 21:11 | martinmorris | yep, can see it now |
| 21:11 | done = 1 | |
| 21:11 | chris | what was the operation? |
| 21:12 | martinmorris | i was deleting any items attached to that biblio, then deleting the biblio itself |
| 21:12 | chris | yep what was the operation column in zebraqueue? |
| 21:12 | martinmorris | ah sorry |
| 21:12 | chris | recordDelete ? |
| 21:13 | martinmorris | specialUpdate and recordDelete |
| 21:13 | chris | ok, you could try one with -v |
| 21:13 | and see whats happening | |
| 21:13 | martinmorris | nothing at all :) |
| 21:13 | chris | (you dont have 2 zebrasrvs running or anything like that eh? .. ie we arent indexing one and searchign the other?) |
| 21:14 | martinmorris | well this does run across two computers but i don't think i am, hold on though |
| 21:15 | doesn't look like it | |
| 21:16 | chris | cool |
| 21:16 | martinmorris | here's my process listing after the two daemons are started up |
| 21:16 | 22279 daemon --name=koha-zebra-ctl.koha --errlog=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon.err --stdout=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon.log --output=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon-output.log --verbose=1 --respawn --delay=30 --user=koha koha -- /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml | |
| 21:16 | 22280 /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml | |
| 21:16 | 22283 daemon --name=koha-zebraqueue-ctl-koha --errlog=/var/log/koha/koha-zebraqueue.err --stdout=/var/log/koha/koha-zebraqueue.log --output=/var/log/koha/koha-zebraqueue-output.log --verbose=1 --respawn --delay=30 --user=koha koha -- perl -I /usr/share/koha/lib /usr/share/koha/bin/zebraqueue_daemon.pl -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml | |
| 21:16 | 22284 perl -I /usr/share/koha/lib /usr/share/koha/bin/zebraqueue_daemon.pl -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml | |
| 21:16 | chris | just checking |
| 21:16 | ohhhh | |
| 21:16 | martinmorris | that's on the sql machine |
| 21:16 | nothing on the www machine | |
| 21:16 | chris | you are running the zebraqueue daemon??? |
| 21:16 | kick that in then head | |
| 21:16 | you dont wnat to run that + rebuild_zebra | |
| 21:17 | martinmorris | oh right, is that what the daemon is meant to be doing? |
| 21:17 | chris | yep, its deprecated in favour of rebuild_zebra as a cron job tho |
| 21:18 | martinmorris | great, that's what i'll do then |
| 21:18 | so a -r -b to clear these changes then? followed by setting up a -z -b cron job and no zebraqueue daemon? | |
| 21:18 | chris | yeah sounds good |
| 21:18 | martinmorris | cheers |
| 21:18 | why wasn't my zebraqueue daemon doing its job i wonder? | |
| 21:19 | chris | yeah i think thats why its been deprecated |
| 21:19 | martinmorris | LOL - makes sense :) |
| 21:20 | you might want to remove it from the INSTALL.debian file | |
| 21:20 | chris | hmm i thought it was, but yep will do |
| 21:22 | martinmorris | thanks for your help - looks like it's OK now :) |
| 21:22 | chris | cool |
| 21:56 | g'day IrmaCalyx | |
| 23:21 | heya pianohacker | |
| 23:21 | pianohacker | Hi, chris |
| 23:21 | How's it going? | |
| 23:23 | chris | good good |
| 23:23 | pianohacker | Anything interesting going on at work? |
| 23:24 | chris | we release the nz stock exchange on a new platform tomorrow |
| 23:24 | thats eating a lot of time | |
| 23:24 | pianohacker | Ahh, cool. Go-live's always fun and scary |
| 23:25 | chris | *nod* |
| 23:25 | mostly scary | |
| 23:26 | pianohacker | Heh. The fun usually comes after the first crazy 48 hours |
| 23:26 | chris | yep :) |
| 23:39 | as long as we dont crash the market ill be happy | |
| 23:39 | pianohacker | Yeah, slightly higher stakes than an ILS rollout (but only slightly, to some directors) |
| 23:40 | chris | hehe |
| 23:42 | gmcharlt | pshaw - stock markets are such short term things, barely worthly of consideration when you've got civilization itself to preserve |
| 23:42 | chris | hehe |
| 23:43 | been reading ngc4lib? | |
| 23:43 | gmcharlt | chris: yep |
| 23:43 | chris | it is pretty entertaining |
| 23:44 | gmcharlt | I suspect that's why most people who subscribe to it read it |
| 23:45 | chris | :) |
| 00:01 | pianohacker | Hmm. Is there really that compelling a reason to have both the opacstylesheet and opaclayoutstylesheet preferences? |
| 00:02 | chris | i dont think so |
| 00:02 | are they both used by the opac templates? | |
| 00:03 | hmm yes | |
| 00:03 | pianohacker | It's kind of strange. The OPAC templates uses opacstylesheet if it's defined, then opaclayoutstylesheet, then opac.css if neither of them are |
| 00:03 | chris | yeah |
| 00:03 | there there is the color one too | |
| 00:03 | pianohacker | #koha: What usage have you seen of the two preferences? |
| 00:03 | chris: Yup, though that's a separate area (thankfully) | |
| 00:04 | chris | and what is opac_css_override ? |
| 00:04 | pianohacker | more in the realm of per-vhost personalization, I would assume |
| 00:04 | chris | ah right |
| 00:05 | we should ask owen next time we see him | |
| 00:05 | pianohacker | I'll leave that as an unresolved part of the sysprefs editor for now, but yes |
| 00:22 | chris | man i love git |
| 00:22 | pianohacker | ? |
| 00:22 | chris | git checkout 1.26-04 |
| 00:22 | git merge origin/wrsomething | |
| 00:22 | git merge origin/wrsomethingelse | |
| 00:22 | bump the package number in debian/changelog | |
| 00:23 | git tag -a -s -m 'preprod release' 1.26-05 | |
| 00:23 | ./scripts/deploy.pl -c preprod -v 1.23-05 | |
| 00:23 | release done | |
| 00:23 | pianohacker | Source code management is pretty special |
| 00:24 | I've seen someone merge ~100 branches, each a contribution from a separate developer, into a single Koha installation | |
| 00:24 | Still tough, but actually possible with git | |
| 00:24 | chris | yep |
| 00:26 | hi irma | |
| 00:36 | or not | |
| 03:08 | atz | chris: yeah, opac_css_override is where it pulls the CSS filename from apache SetEnv |
| 03:09 | pianohacker | atz: Do you know anything re: usage of opacstylesheet/opaclayoutstylesheet? |
| 03:09 | chris | ohhh |
| 03:10 | atz | not really... i think there are a couple versions of essentially the same thing on the opac side |
| 03:10 | i guess b/c you might have different levels of CSS design... | |
| 03:10 | pianohacker | Presumably |
| 03:10 | atz | but unnecessary imhoo |
| 03:11 | pianohacker | I'll harass owen about it |
| 03:11 | Never dreamed the syspref editor would involve this much weirdness | |
| 03:12 | chris | yeah, less calls makes the page load faster, especially on IE |
| 03:12 | atz | evergreen amasses all the CSS and pre-body js and serves it all in-line, w/ server-side minify |
| 03:12 | chris | we could do that |
| 03:13 | as a first easy step | |
| 03:13 | atz | yeah, it seems better in some ways, but intermediate and browser caching is lost |
| 03:13 | chris | we could minify it all when building a release |
| 03:14 | atz | well, not the syspref-based stuff, but the truly static ones it would make sense |
| 03:14 | chris | yeah the general css file |
| 03:15 | we could use a minified jquery too | |
| 03:15 | atz | chris: that's already done iirc |
| 03:15 | chris | cool |
| 03:15 | atz | we recently upgraded jquery version also |
| 03:15 | chris | saw that |
| 03:16 | part of our build process for stuff is | |
| 03:16 | cd frontend_templates/js && ./make_site_all.js.sh | |
| 03:16 | making site-all.js | |
| 03:16 | cd frontend_templates/js && ./make_min.pl | |
| 03:16 | which combines all the js into one file, and minifies it | |
| 03:18 | atz | yeah, i think that might be best... |
| 03:18 | chris | Minified site-all.js (62% original size) |
| 03:18 | certainly saves a bunch on file size | |
| 03:18 | atz | go ahead and incur the first load cost... should be cached by every piece along the way then |
| 03:18 | chris | *nod* |
| 03:19 | atz | system (or memcahce), network cache, browser, etc. |
| 03:19 | chris | the other trick we do, is using mod_rewrite |
| 03:19 | links to the js css images etc | |
| 03:19 | are generated in the templates with a epoch timestamp as part of the url | |
| 03:19 | which changes is the image, or css etc is changed | |
| 03:20 | mod_rewrite throws that bit away | |
| 03:20 | which means we just set the expires headers to forever | |
| 03:20 | and the browser only gets it when the url to it changes (which is when the file changes) | |
| 03:21 | atz | that seems pretty solid |
| 03:22 | chris | yeah works pretty well |
| 03:22 | atz | as long as you don't trip over user/application generated filenames that happen to fall in the namespace |
| 03:23 | chris | *nod* its a directory structure, and we have control over that |
| 03:25 | Amit | hi #koha good morning |
| 03:25 | hi chris | |
| 03:25 | chris | hi Amit |
| 03:25 | pianohacker | Good night, all |
| 03:26 | chris | night pianohacker |
| 03:26 | Amit | hi pianohacker |
| 03:26 | pianohacker | hibye amit |
| 07:11 | CGI566 | my login session is timedout immediately |
| 07:11 | how would i change the session timeout | |
| 07:32 | chris | good morning europe |
| 07:34 | nicomo | good evening in Oceania? |
| 07:34 | hi chris | |
| 07:43 | Amit | hi nicomo |
| 07:44 | nicomo | hi Amit |
| 07:52 | CGI566 | hi all |
| 07:53 | my opac, staff users mailing session is timedout soon. is there any possibility to extend the session time | |
| 07:56 | chris | there is a system preference that sets the timeout |
| 08:23 | hdl_laptop | hi |
| 08:27 | chris | hi hdl_laptop |
| 08:29 | hdl_laptop | hi chris |
| 08:29 | how are you ? | |
| 08:30 | chris | good thanks, and you? |
| 08:33 | hdl_laptop | good |
| 10:28 | Amit | hi davi, hdl |
| 10:29 | davi | hi |
| 10:29 | later | |
| 10:58 | chris | @quote random |
| 10:58 | munin | chris: Quote #14: "joetho: I only looked for missing ccodes- not dysfunctional orphans." (added by wizzyrea at 08:31 PM, July 09, 2009) |
| 11:07 | gmcharlt | good morning #koha |
| 11:08 | nicomo | morning gmcharlt |
| 11:08 | morning gmcharlt | |
| 11:08 | oups hit the enter key twice | |
| 11:09 | gmcharlt | :) |
| 11:09 | nicomo | you're twice welcome then |
| 11:10 | chris | hehe |
| 11:11 | nicomo | with that : lunch time for me, brb |
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