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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 13:13 | SirStan | are there docs on how to moev from nozebra to zebra? |
| 13:51 | Kivutar | slef: have you read my comment on http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3144 ? |
| 13:51 | munin | 04Bug 3144: normal, P5, ---, jeanandre.santonibiblibre.com, NEW, anti-spam for opac-suggestions |
| 14:50 | wizzyrea | @quote |
| 14:50 | munin | wizzyrea: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 14:50 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
| 14:50 | munin | wizzyrea: Quote #1: "<pianohacker> resolve, rather, I doubt it needs lotion" (added by gmcharlt at 03:05 AM, May 31, 2009) |
| 14:50 | wizzyrea | @quote 3 |
| 14:50 | munin | wizzyrea: I suck |
| 14:51 | pianohacker | @quote get 3 |
| 14:51 | munin | pianohacker: Quote #3: "< bignose-work> the only constant in climate over the next several decades will be that the climate doesn't match what you just got used to." (added by chris at 01:55 AM, June 12, 2009) |
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | AH thanks |
| 14:51 | @quote get 5 | |
| 14:51 | munin | wizzyrea: Quote #5: "<jwagner> Why is it every Koha rock I turn over produces a zillion (metaphorical) ants, each with a new question????" (added by kf at 01:13 PM, June 12, 2009) |
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | @quote get 7 |
| 14:51 | munin | wizzyrea: Error: There is no Quote with id #7 in my database for #koha. |
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | @quote get 6 |
| 14:51 | munin | wizzyrea: Quote #6: "gmcharlt: kf: hold requests are a plot to sell more aspirin ;)" (added by wizzyrea at 04:13 PM, June 16, 2009) |
| 14:52 | wizzyrea | yes, that's the one I was looking for |
| 14:52 | lol | |
| 14:52 | kf | lol |
| 14:54 | wizzyrea | we just discovered that "return all" from moremember doesn't trigger holds |
| 14:55 | it will transfer items home | |
| 14:55 | (invisibly) | |
| 14:55 | but not trap holds | |
| 14:55 | ewps | |
| 14:55 | hence, aspirin | |
| 14:55 | :) | |
| 14:55 | pianohacker | Oh god the returns code |
| 14:55 | wizzyrea | >.< |
| 14:55 | don't say that! | |
| 14:55 | gmcharlt | hastur |
| 14:55 | hastur | |
| 14:55 | ... | |
| 14:56 | SirStan | how do I enable a fasceted search on the side of the koha search ersults window? |
| 14:56 | pianohacker | Even the returns screen that _works_ is a twisted nightmare |
| 14:57 | Snow_Fox | www.userfriendly.org |
| 14:57 | pianohacker | gmcharlt: beetlejuice? |
| 14:57 | Snow_Fox | he is kinda inhabiting that atm |
| 14:57 | gmcharlt | pianohacker: indeed |
| 14:58 | pianohacker | SirStan: I believe there's a Facets option under the Searching tab in Global System Preferences (though you'll need Zebra for it to work) |
| 14:58 | SirStan | pianohacker: is there an easy roadmap to go from nozebra to zebra? |
| 14:59 | pianohacker | SirStan: Mainly, just install Zebra and index your database |
| 14:59 | kf | no option, its just there, but perhaps only with zebra |
| 14:59 | SirStan | i installed zebra-- but i thought when i installed koha i said 'dont use zebra' |
| 14:59 | pianohacker | SirStan: It's easy to switch |
| 14:59 | wizzyrea | there is a syspref iirc |
| 15:00 | SirStan | oh wow. |
| 15:00 | pianohacker | Just disable the NoZebra syspref on the Cataloguing tab |
| 15:00 | SirStan | its just working. |
| 15:03 | kf | I think faceted search cant be turned off - at least there is no syspref in searching |
| 15:04 | perhaps its somewhere else | |
| 15:04 | pianohacker | kf: You might be right |
| 15:05 | There might not be a syspref | |
| 15:05 | SirStan: How do you mean? | |
| 15:13 | SirStan | How do I mean what |
| 15:14 | pianohacker | that its just working |
| 15:14 | SirStan | i mean -- i typed 5 commands, one syspref, and zebra is running. |
| 15:14 | impresive | |
| 15:15 | pianohacker | Oh, cool |
| 15:16 | SirStan | i say that -- but now my searches arent working |
| 15:22 | kf | g |
| 15:22 | perhaps you have to reindex | |
| 15:22 | using rebuild_zebra.pl | |
| 15:27 | SirStan | when i run koha-zebra-daemon start |
| 15:27 | shouldnt something happen? | |
| 15:27 | a process rns in the background .. anyting? | |
| 15:27 | pianohacker | It should; does ps ax | grep zebrasrv show anything ? |
| 15:27 | SirStan | n |
| 15:27 | Snow_Fox | a rift opens in space the information is shuffled to dev_hypersapce rift then closes |
| 15:27 | :-P | |
| 15:28 | wizzyrea | @quote add Snow_Fox: a rift opens in space the information is shuffled to dev_hyperspace rift then closes |
| 15:28 | munin | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #7 added. |
| 15:29 | Snow_Fox | heh |
| 15:29 | SirStan | nothing occurs.. no process.. no logs.. nothing |
| 15:29 | pianohacker | SirStan: Try running sudo -u koha zebrasrv -f <path to koha-conf.xml> |
| 15:30 | That'll run it in the foreground, with the correct privileges | |
| 15:30 | SirStan | cmd not found. |
| 15:30 | pianohacker | Huh |
| 15:31 | How did you install zebra? | |
| 15:31 | SirStan | ah i didnt. |
| 15:31 | so - how does one -- install it | |
| 15:31 | pianohacker | SirStan: What distro are you on? |
| 15:31 | SirStan | ubuntu |
| 15:32 | pianohacker | Okay. I believe there is a package you can install (you can find it with apt-cache search zebra) |
| 15:33 | atz | i'm cleaning returns code now... for what should have been a simple thing |
| 15:34 | SirStan | pianohacker; there used to be :( |
| 15:34 | pianohacker | atz: returns are never simple; I remember trying to duplicate returns functionality in AJAX before eventually just giving up and showing a popup window |
| 15:34 | SirStan | i wrote the Ubuntu install docs on the wiki. |
| 15:34 | pianohacker | Ack, it disappeared from the repo? |
| 15:34 | SirStan | one sec |
| 15:35 | Get:3 http://ftp.indexdata.dk hardy Release [3454B] | |
| 15:35 | im using indexdata.. | |
| 15:35 | ah.. | |
| 15:35 | pianohacker | SirStan: It might be easier to install from source |
| 15:35 | SirStan | its idzebra-2.0 now |
| 15:35 | god no | |
| 15:38 | the zebra startup script needs to be fixed quite a bit | |
| 15:38 | pianohacker | The one packaged with Koha, or the one that comes with the package? |
| 15:38 | SirStan | he one that comes with koha |
| 15:38 | doesnt produce any usable errors/notiecs | |
| 15:39 | silently failing is horrible | |
| 15:39 | gmcharlt | SirStan: feel free to send a patch |
| 15:43 | SirStan | :) |
| 15:43 | wizzyrea | is there only one place to set the outgoing email address for an entire koha system? |
| 15:43 | that notices get sent from? | |
| 15:43 | pianohacker | wizzyrea: You should also be able to set it per-library, in the libraries and groups screen |
| 15:43 | wizzyrea | right, but in some of our libraries it is set, but not working... hm |
| 15:44 | pianohacker | Is it not working for some kinds of notices, or for all of them |
| 15:44 | wizzyrea | well overdues, specifically |
| 15:45 | (is the only one I have evidence for, currently) | |
| 15:45 | the only thing that I can see wouold be different | |
| 15:46 | joetho | wizzy and I should compare how that works when you have indep branches turned on (me) and off (wizzy) |
| 15:46 | wizzyrea | is that the libraries in question have blahsomething.lib.ks.us addresses |
| 15:46 | instead of @something.com | |
| 15:47 | (I mean, this is kind of anecdotal, hard evidence I don't have) | |
| 15:47 | joetho | "some work and some don't" sounds like a smtp problem |
| 15:47 | wizzyrea | but at quick glance it *appears* to be the case |
| 15:47 | no, by not work I mean | |
| 15:47 | some libraries with defined email addresses come from the default address | |
| 15:47 | the messages come* that is | |
| 15:48 | the ones that are sending via the default address *seem* to be @lib.ks.us | |
| 15:48 | addresses | |
| 15:48 | so I wonder if it's something to do with all the dots | |
| 15:48 | but that's wild speculation | |
| 15:51 | gmcharlt | @google HTTP 501 |
| 15:51 | munin | gmcharlt: HTTP Error 501 Not implemented Explained: <http://www.checkupdown.com/status/E501.html>; HTTP/1.1: Status Code Definitions: <http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rf[…]fc2616-sec10.html>; How to solve HTTP 501/ HTTP 505 error ? - Yahoo! Answers India: <http://in.answers.yahoo.com/qu[…]0921235411AAagdpx>; HTTP 501 – Status Code Definition definition - SEO (1 more message) |
| 15:55 | danny | @marc 245 |
| 15:55 | munin | danny: The title and statement of responsibility area of the bibliographic description of a work. [a,b,c,f,g,h,k,n,p,s,6,8] |
| 15:55 | danny | thats very cool |
| 15:57 | eb_inLibro | @marc 080a |
| 15:57 | munin | eb_inLibro: unknown tag 080a |
| 15:57 | eb_inLibro | @marc 080 |
| 15:57 | munin | eb_inLibro: A number taken from the Universal Decimal Classification scheme. (Repeatable) [] |
| 16:05 | danny | @marc 080 a |
| 16:05 | munin | danny: unknown field/subfield combination (080/a) |
| 16:06 | danny | @marc 245 a |
| 16:06 | munin | danny: Title |
| 16:07 | Sharon | http://www.oclc.org/bibformats/es/0xx/080.shtm |
| 16:08 | kf | @marc 001 |
| 16:08 | munin | kf: The control number assigned by the organization creating, using, or distributing the record. The MARC code for the organization is contained in field 003 (Control Number Identifier). [] |
| 16:08 | kf | very cool |
| 16:10 | @google lake of constance | |
| 16:10 | munin | kf: Lake Constance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Constance>; Lake constance travel guide: <http://www.world66.com/europe/[…]erg/lakeconstance>; Lake Constance (lake, Europe) -- Britannica Online Encyclopedia: <http://www.britannica.com/EBch[…]20/Lake-Constance>; Lake of Constance Holidays and Hotel Information: (2 more messages) |
| 16:12 | kf | bye #koha - off from work for 1 week now :) |
| 16:21 | SirStan | chris: around? |
| 16:23 | schuster | Hey that MARC thing is way cool! |
| 16:23 | @marc 856 | |
| 16:23 | munin | schuster: The information needed to locate and access an electronic resource. The field may be used in a bibliographic record for a resource when that resource or a subset of it is available electronically. In addition, it may be used to locate and access an electronic version of a non-electronic resource described in the bibliographic record or a related electronic resource. (Repeatable) (1 more message) |
| 16:26 | danny | @more |
| 16:26 | munin | danny: Error: That's all, there is no more. |
| 16:27 | danny | @marc 856 |
| 16:27 | munin | danny: The information needed to locate and access an electronic resource. The field may be used in a bibliographic record for a resource when that resource or a subset of it is available electronically. In addition, it may be used to locate and access an electronic version of a non-electronic resource described in the bibliographic record or a related electronic resource. (Repeatable) (1 more message) |
| 16:27 | danny | @more |
| 16:27 | munin | danny: [a,b,c,d,f,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,v,w,x,y,z,2,3,6,8] |
| 16:27 | danny | munin++ very cool |
| 16:27 | munin | danny: downloading the Perl source |
| 16:28 | SirStan | @marc 952 |
| 16:28 | munin | SirStan: unknown tag 952 |
| 16:32 | Snow_Fox | is it me or is munin missing a few characters |
| 16:33 | oh wait | |
| 16:33 | nm | |
| 16:33 | <- nooberific | |
| 16:37 | schuster | danny - Thanks for the more I was sitting here wondering how to get that! Too bad it doesn't have the indicator information too! |
| 16:39 | danny | ah, glad I could help, it was something I was trying to figure out as well :) |
| 16:41 | saintmike | hi im new to koha and i wanted to know if there is a way to automatically populate the additem.pl page if i initially came from detail.pl page... |
| 16:42 | pianohacker | saintmike: No, there isn't |
| 16:42 | It's kind of annoying that you have to fill in, say, the homebranch for every single item, even when they're all entered together | |
| 16:43 | You might try looking for a related bug on http://bugs.koha.org/ , voting for it if there is one, or creating one if there isn't | |
| 16:46 | saintmike | pianohacker : cause i wanted to fill the details of additem.pl page so that it would be easier to alter what is necessary...i would not want to rewrite every details, that should not be altered... |
| 16:47 | pianohacker | saintmike: Are you trying to create new items, or edit existing ones? |
| 16:47 | saintmike | id like to edit existing items... |
| 16:47 | pianohacker | Ahh, okay. Then all you have to do is click the edit link at the far left |
| 16:47 | Sorry for the misunderstanding | |
| 16:49 | saintmike | do you mean the "Edit biblio" button? |
| 16:49 | pianohacker | One sec |
| 16:50 | Okay, so from the "Normal" (detail.pl) page, click on Edit, then Edit items | |
| 16:50 | Then, click on the blue edit link for the item in question (I'm assuming you're on Koha 3.0; are you on 2.2?) | |
| 16:52 | saintmike | well im using koha229 for windows? |
| 16:52 | pianohacker | Okay then. Let me figure out how you would do that on 2.2.9 |
| 16:55 | saintmike | there is a folder icon on the right side and i clicked it...i think i got it... |
| 16:55 | would this feature still available in version 2.2.8 in debian OSes? | |
| 16:57 | pianohacker | It should be, though there's no reason to use 2.2.9 on a non-windows system |
| 16:57 | 3.0.2 is much more pleasant | |
| 16:59 | saintmike | okay...may i ask what is the difference between 2.2.8 and 3.0.2? |
| 16:59 | pianohacker | Many, many new features, not to mention bugfixes |
| 16:59 | Nicer looking interface | |
| 17:01 | saintmike | can i import the existing database which is from 2.2.8 to 3.0.2? |
| 17:01 | pianohacker | Yes |
| 17:01 | http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=22_to_30 | |
| 17:02 | Also http://koha.org/news/koha-version-3-released | |
| 17:02 | joetho | what exactly are "virtual shelf entries"? |
| 17:02 | pianohacker | joetho: Presumably, items on a virtual shelf, but what are you quoting? |
| 17:03 | joetho | as relates to local item information in a koha marc record |
| 17:04 | saintmike | pianohacker : is there a link where i can see the interface for 3.0.2? |
| 17:05 | joetho | liblime demo? |
| 17:05 | pianohacker | saintmike: http://liblime.com/demos |
| 17:06 | joetho | you are so obedient, pno |
| 17:06 | heh heh heh | |
| 17:06 | pianohacker | joetho: Don't get any ideas, mr. rubber cheesecake |
| 17:06 | joetho | I was hoping you had forgotten that. |
| 17:07 | hmmm, how to change screennames in irc...? | |
| 17:07 | pianohacker | /nick my_new_screen_name |
| 17:07 | saintmike | pianohacker : thanx... |
| 17:07 | pianohacker | saintmike: Not a problem. Good luck |
| 17:08 | http://koha.org has links to documentation, and live OPACs for many libraries running Koha; good resource | |
| 17:09 | saintmike | what's the default username and password for this demo? |
| 17:10 | pianohacker | liblime/liblime |
| 17:17 | saintmike | pianohacker : thanx again....... |
| 17:19 | schuster | Oh shucks I was going to remind saintmike - there isn't a windows version is there? |
| 17:27 | atz | gmcharlt: would appreciate any thoughts on patchset for returns |
| 17:28 | i think i dealt w/ all the messy conditionals (outside SIP) | |
| 17:35 | gmcharlt | atz: I'll take a look, but don't expect to get to until the evening |
| 17:36 | atz | it's ok, i just know how central returns is to real operation |
| 17:36 | so i feel a bit out of place revising it when my focus is really on SIP, even if the code was begging for it | |
| 17:41 | pianohacker | schuster: He mentioned debian, so I think he's going that route |
| 19:00 | chris | morning |
| 19:01 | joetho | afternoon |
| 19:01 | pianohacker | good mornafternooning |
| 19:02 | joetho | slaving away in these windowless dungeons has predictable results. |
| 19:03 | pianohacker | working_at_home++ |
| 19:37 | chris | how are you liking quassel liz? |
| 19:38 | liz | I think I like it |
| 19:39 | SirStan | hey chris -- you around? |
| 19:40 | pianohacker | SirStan: He might be busy - could I help you with something? |
| 19:40 | liz | chris: it has some advantages over colloquy, that's for sure |
| 19:41 | SirStan | pianohacker: i wanted to follow up with something from yesterday. |
| 19:41 | pianohacker | ah |
| 19:41 | maja | I am installing Koha on opensuse 11.0 . I have some issues . can anyone help? |
| 19:41 | SirStan | no queston; added info. |
| 19:41 | maja: ask away. | |
| 19:41 | chris | yep im semi here, sup SirStan ? |
| 19:41 | SirStan | chris: remember I was bitching about the language modules loading slowly yesterday? |
| 19:42 | chris | yep |
| 19:42 | SirStan | chris: I turned on mysql logging -- an this is the query log for a single hit to the opac -- http://vtwireless.com/mysql.log |
| 19:42 | chris | did you see the pastebin thing i did? |
| 19:42 | SirStan | no! |
| 19:42 | chris | 2 secs |
| 19:43 | maja | SirStan: I am modifying koha-httpd.conf according to instructions but I cannot restart apache since it always says that modeule rewriet is not there although there is word reqrite in apache modules section |
| 19:43 | chris | http://koha.pastebin.com/m54d62fb6 |
| 19:43 | SirStan | maja: do you have mod_rewrite enabled? |
| 19:44 | chris | SirStan: it almost halved the execute time, so you might want to try it out |
| 19:44 | SirStan | chris: doing so now! |
| 19:44 | pre-benchmarking | |
| 19:45 | maja | SirStan: yes, of course |
| 19:45 | chris | (i have all the languages enabled tho, so your mileage may vary (i was testing it on the koha i use for testing translations)) |
| 19:45 | SirStan | maja: what is the error message (exactly)? |
| 19:46 | chris: how does Memoize know when the cache is dirty? | |
| 19:46 | maja | SirStan: for example it says that there is syntax error on line 7 in koha-httpd.conf where I put Listen 8080 as it was requested |
| 19:46 | SirStan | maja: can you please pastebin the exact errors. |
| 19:47 | chris | SirStan: you can tell it to expire |
| 19:47 | SirStan | chris: so somehow memoize maps itself infront of the called function? |
| 19:47 | chris | yep |
| 19:47 | and when you call the function with the same arguments | |
| 19:48 | it gives you the result, rahter than re executing the function | |
| 19:48 | this is just a test | |
| 19:48 | pianohacker | maja: Is that Listen 8080 inside the <VirtualHost> block? It needs to be before it |
| 19:48 | maja | SirStan: Ok, thanks, just a second |
| 19:48 | chris | the real patch would probably use Memoize::Expire and Memoize::Memcached |
| 19:49 | (to provide persistence and expiration) | |
| 19:49 | by default, memoize caches to memory, so it expires when the script ends | |
| 19:49 | which actually is very useful in a lot of places in koha | |
| 19:50 | fredericd has been doing some good work with that | |
| 19:50 | maja | pianohacker: thanks, I corrected it works |
| 19:51 | pianohacker | maja: Cool |
| 19:51 | SirStan | chris: 500% gain |
| 19:51 | chris | http://lists.koha.org/pipermai[…]-June/003771.html |
| 19:51 | SirStan: awesome :-) | |
| 19:51 | SirStan | chris: just kidding. |
| 19:51 | I didnt have MLDBM | |
| 19:52 | the error comes up 500% faster than the results diod though | |
| 19:52 | pianohacker | Hahahaha |
| 19:52 | chris | ahh, yeah i used MLDBM because it can serialise objects |
| 19:52 | but in reallife i will probably use memcached, then i can use different caching namespaces, so multiple koha's dont fight over a file | |
| 19:54 | SirStan | Time per request: 5600.573 [ms] (mean) -> 4128.802 [ms] (mean) |
| 19:54 | 27% performance gain | |
| 19:54 | maja | pianohacker: When I want to start installation it does not redirect me to installer.pl file. any advise |
| 19:54 | chris | cool, thats worth doing properly then |
| 19:55 | pianohacker | maja: What does it do? |
| 19:55 | chris | try running it again SirStan |
| 19:55 | just for kicks please | |
| 19:55 | SirStan | I ran 100 queries, 5 concurrent users. |
| 19:55 | chris | sweet |
| 19:55 | SirStan | one sec |
| 19:55 | ill post before|after timings | |
| 19:55 | chris | so i think its worth continuing on the memoize path (did you see fredericd's results) |
| 19:57 | SirStan | http://vtwireless.com/koha/memoize.html |
| 19:57 | maja | pianohacker: I see only :"It works!" but it does not redirect me anywhere |
| 19:57 | SirStan | maja: remove your default vhost file |
| 19:59 | chris | SirStan: yeah so i reckon we just memoize the bottlenecks, at least the ones it is safe to do so |
| 19:59 | does it drop the number of mysql queries? | |
| 19:59 | maja | SirStan: I have the same IP in teh both VirtualHost ections and I guess that is an issue. I get maintenance.pl, buT I dont have installer started. any advise? |
| 19:59 | SirStan | chris : one sec |
| 19:59 | pianohacker | maja: Do you have the same port in both sections? |
| 20:00 | Often, the opac will be at, say, http://localhost/ and the staff client will be at http://localhost:8080/ | |
| 20:00 | SirStan | chris: oddly.. no |
| 20:00 | well -- it probably cuts them in half. | |
| 20:01 | so there must be another place to memoize. | |
| 20:01 | in the same file | |
| 20:02 | chris | could well be |
| 20:03 | maja | pianohacker: http://pastebin.ca/1465268 |
| 20:03 | chris | could you run the profiler and see what subroutine is the slow one in the languages module now? |
| 20:03 | and ill go make my son breakfast | |
| 20:04 | pianohacker | maja: try changing <VirtualHost 192.168.1.2:0> to <VirtualHost 192.168.1.2:80> |
| 20:04 | SirStan | chris: i tossed three more memoize staements in |
| 20:06 | maja | pianohacker: thanks, it works, congratulkations, I am looking for password now |
| 20:06 | pianohacker | maja: Cool. The password will be at the bottom of your koha-conf.xml |
| 20:06 | chris | SirStan: caching to files also? |
| 20:06 | (different files of course) | |
| 20:06 | SirStan | chris yea.. langues_get_description and GetAllLanguages |
| 20:07 | cut & paste of your code with a diffrent temp file | |
| 20:07 | down to ~15 queries (from 200+) | |
| 20:07 | timing now. | |
| 20:08 | maja | pianohacker: yes, it owrks so well so far. Koha will be library system for the Anglo American School. http://www.angloamericanschool.net |
| 20:08 | SirStan | chris: 28% faster. you got the big one. (26% faster with your one chaneg) |
| 20:09 | pianohacker | maja: Very nice! Did you use the default password during the install ? |
| 20:10 | chris | SirStan: i went for that one, since it is used on everypage |
| 20:10 | maja | pianohacker: I used mine that I defined fro teh user and databse, in some cases it was default |
| 20:10 | chris | there will be specific hogs, for specific pages, that we can tackle next |
| 20:10 | pianohacker | maja: Okay, cool. Just wanted to check, minor security problem. |
| 20:10 | chris | but i think C4::Context might be a target for some memoizing |
| 20:11 | ok, now i really have to make some breakfast before kahu gets mad :) | |
| 20:12 | pianohacker | I made a syspref mutator (C4::Context->set_preference) as part of my new sysprefs editor (in progress) that would be useful in that memoizing work |
| 20:12 | maja | pianohacker: I logged in teh system. I guess I need to study documentation. But I will fiorstly install it on my laptop so I can study it a bit more |
| 20:13 | pianohacker | Cool. Have you seen http://koha.org/ ? Lots of documentation and links to demos and libraries already using Koha |
| 20:13 | maja | pianohacker: yes, indeed |
| 20:14 | pianohacker | cool. Gotta promote the website |
| 20:21 | maja | pianohacker: I will install KOha on my laptop for the sake of exercise ande being able to study it more while I am not in teh school |
| 20:23 | Elwell_ | maja: virtual machines are wonderful for that |
| 20:25 | pianohacker | Bah |
| 20:25 | SirStan | srsly. |
| 20:25 | pianohacker | windows xp -> vmware -> linux -> _wine_ -> java -> jython |
| 20:25 | SirStan | ooooh. |
| 20:25 | of course.. by windows xp.. you mean... inside parallels on your macbook | |
| 20:26 | pianohacker | Well, if I had a macbook, of course that's what I would mean |
| 20:26 | >:) | |
| 20:28 | SirStan | chris: http://vtwireless.com/nytprof/ << opac-main.pl, 3.00.02 stock w/ our mods. |
| 20:32 | pianohacker | You've definitely knocked out the major ones |
| 20:32 | utf8/xml parsing seem to be the only two remaining large items | |
| 20:33 | hdl_laptop | utf8::SWASHNEW : marc has a way to come around this. |
| 20:43 | maja | pianohaker: I am now from other computer with nick vedran. I will part as "maja" but I wil stay here |
| 21:04 | pianohacker | bbl, weekly library trip |
| 21:08 | vedran | pianohacker: have a nice time :) |
| 21:14 | gmcharlt | bbl |
| 22:19 | vedran | I have difficulties reaching cpan.cpantesters.org during installation. does anyone have teh same issue right now. any advise? |
| 22:48 | SirStan | use a different source/ |
| 22:52 | vedran | SirStan: ok, it works somehow |
| 23:57 | SirStan: I installed Koha on my laptop too so I can present it on various workshops :)) | |
| 00:01 | pianohacker | Ah very nice |
| 00:02 | vedran | pianohacker: teh second installation went smooth. I use opensuse 11.0 and it went very well :) |
| 00:02 | pianohacker | good |
| 00:06 | vedran | pianohacker: I will these days start to learn how to use KOha and probably from time to time ask questions here. I hope this is OK. |
| 00:07 | pianohacker | Hey, that's what we're here fore |
| 00:07 | *for , rather | |
| 00:08 | vedran | pianohacker: great :)) it is 2.00 AM here so I will go to sleep , but I will be back here these days. :)) |
| 00:08 | pianohacker | Cool |
| 00:08 | vedran | cya |
| 00:08 | :) | |
| 02:52 | pianohacker | good night |
| 03:22 | Amit | hi chris, Jo, mason |
| 03:22 | chris: Cong! south africa out of T-20 world cup | |
| 03:25 | chris | :-) |
| 03:25 | Amit | chris: what about today match Srilanka vs WI |
| 03:26 | Jo | Hi Amit |
| 03:26 | Hi Chris | |
| 03:27 | chris | could go either way |
| 03:27 | hi Jo | |
| 03:27 | Jo | hey can i ask yuou a question about koha? |
| 03:27 | chris | yep |
| 03:27 | Jo | our issues/circ linux box died. |
| 03:28 | chris | stink, hardware fail? |
| 03:28 | Jo | after discussing it with si, i got a new aaa box with xp on it, and a new epson receipt printer. |
| 03:28 | yep. | |
| 03:28 | chris | cool |
| 03:28 | Jo | day before baby was born |
| 03:28 | i have the epson printer attached to the new circ box, it prints fine, and is shared on the network. | |
| 03:28 | chris | right |
| 03:29 | Jo | the bit i can't do is get koha circ module to print to the new printer. |
| 03:29 | chris | do you know the name of its print queue? |
| 03:29 | Jo | its a local printer on the new circ box. |
| 03:29 | so its share name? | |
| 03:29 | (was supposed to be a newtork printer with an ethernet jack but turns out not to have one) | |
| 03:29 | chris | if so you go to http://koha.library.org.nz/cgi[…]admin/printers.pl |
| 03:30 | ahh no it needs to be set up in the printqueue | |
| 03:30 | Jo | (not sure i understand what you are telling me sorry :) |
| 03:31 | chris | can you print to it from the workroom |
| 03:31 | the same way you can to say the returns one? | |
| 03:31 | Jo | ah cool. |
| 03:31 | chris | or to the laser printer? |
| 03:31 | if you can it will be the name .. see that url? | |
| 03:31 | Jo | i see that url |
| 03:31 | and the list of printers. | |
| 03:31 | chris | the old one used to be called leviss |
| 03:31 | Jo | yep. |
| 03:31 | chris | you need to change that to whatever the new one is called |
| 03:32 | Jo | so i need to add a new one |
| 03:32 | chris | or add a new one |
| 03:32 | Jo | so edit levin issues |
| 03:32 | chris | yeah try that |
| 03:32 | Jo | may have to add new i think .. |
| 03:32 | chris | righto |
| 03:33 | Jo | Thanks for helping) |
| 03:35 | chris | did it work/ |
| 03:36 | Jo | no yet |
| 03:37 | the pc is called CIRCASUS | |
| 03:37 | the printer sharename is EpsonT70 | |
| 03:37 | chris | hmmm |
| 03:37 | Jo | so is the path:CIRCASUS/EpsonT70 |
| 03:37 | chris | you might need si to set up a printqueue for it |
| 03:37 | and tell you what the queue is called | |
| 03:37 | Jo | i thought so .. |
| 03:37 | chris | and then that is what goes there |
| 03:38 | Jo | but he's just a new baby girl ;) |
| 03:38 | chris | yep |
| 03:38 | Jo | i can access the print queue from my desktop |
| 03:38 | chris | so you can add printers to it? |
| 03:38 | Jo | http://192.168.10.20:631/ |
| 03:38 | is that the kind of thing it should look like | |
| 03:38 | (we should off channel :) | |
| 03:38 | chris | cant see that |
| 03:38 | thats an internal ip | |
| 03:39 | Jo | yes i can |
| 03:39 | chris | i cant :) |
| 03:39 | Jo | lol |
| 03:39 | chris | only ppl on your lan can see that |
| 03:39 | Jo | ok |
| 03:39 | phew ... | |
| 03:39 | realised after i hit enter that that was dum thing to do | |
| 03:39 | chris | but yes, you might be able to make a new queue there |
| 03:39 | for that printer | |
| 03:39 | and then add that queue to koha | |
| 03:40 | Jo | i'm looking at the pattern for the other printers to see the pattern |
| 03:41 | chris | i think the path you had above looks right |
| 03:41 | well rightish :) | |
| 03:42 | can you see how the old leviss one is set up? | |
| 03:42 | brendan | heya amit, jo, chris |
| 03:42 | Amit | heya brendan |
| 03:43 | Jo | yep - copying that one now. |
| 03:43 | its asking what kind of device | |
| 03:43 | i'm picking its an lpd/lpr host or printer | |
| 03:43 | chris | worth a crack |
| 03:43 | Jo | or it could be a windows printer or SAMBA |
| 03:44 | probably the latter | |
| 03:44 | chris | yeah |
| 03:44 | if you can see it from your windows machine | |
| 03:44 | Jo | now it wants a device uri |
| 03:44 | chris | then its likely to be SAMBA |
| 03:45 | im thinking \\CIRCASUS\EpsonT70 | |
| 03:45 | Jo | yep me too |
| 03:46 | whats a PPD file? | |
| 03:46 | chris | its the printer description file |
| 03:46 | Jo | like a driver file? |
| 03:47 | chris | yep like that |
| 03:47 | Jo | ok - i have that |
| 03:47 | chris | you might not need it, you can often just pick the generic |
| 03:50 | Jo | its droppinmg me into an admin screen |
| 03:52 | chris | sounds plausible |
| 03:52 | is there an option to print a test? | |
| 03:53 | actaully dont do that | |
| 03:53 | if it works it will try and print a page to the receipt printer .. which will waste a bunch of pape | |
| 03:53 | r | |
| 03:53 | Jo | sure. |
| 03:53 | just trying it again | |
| 03:53 | chris | did it give you a queuename? |
| 03:54 | Jo | no . |
| 03:54 | its giving examples of a format for the uri (using the samba option) | |
| 03:54 | examples: http://hostname:631/ipp/ | |
| 03:54 | http://hostname:631/ipp/port1 | |
| 03:54 | or ipp://hostname/ipp/ | |
| 03:54 | ipp://hostname/ipp/port1 | |
| 03:54 | or lpd://hostname/queue | |
| 03:54 | or socket://hostname | |
| 03:54 | socket://hostname:9100 | |
| 03:55 | i think it might be lpd://CIRCASUS/EpsonT70 | |
| 03:55 | (we need a windows expert ... | |
| 03:55 | Brendan and Amit are clever boys - come on lads - step up!) | |
| 03:56 | Amit | hmm Jo |
| 03:56 | Jo | Hi |
| 03:56 | the spac to enter the devioce uri has smb preentered | |
| 03:56 | Amit | sure i will come |
| 03:56 | chris | ahh |
| 03:56 | smb://CIRCASUS/EpsonT70 | |
| 03:56 | Jo | (thats a clue yes?) |
| 03:56 | chris | try that |
| 03:58 | Jo | ok -0 this is driving me batty |
| 03:58 | i have to choose a make manufacture: i select epson. | |
| 03:58 | and then continue | |
| 03:59 | chris | yep |
| 03:59 | Jo | and now we wait ... |
| 03:59 | and still waiting | |
| 03:59 | f i sent you privately the url and login and password etc to carnaby can you acces this? | |
| 03:59 | chris | see my message |
| 03:59 | :) | |
| 04:13 | brendan | sorry Jo -- off on another computer |
| 04:14 | looks like chris is on top of it | |
| 04:20 | Jo | well we are trying .. |
| 04:32 | Amit | hi greenmang0 |
| 04:33 | greenmang0 | Amit: |
| 06:08 | Amit | chris: DPL catalog is available is on hindi please select hindi languages |
| 06:32 | brendan | Good night #koha |
| 06:38 | Amit | hi nicomo |
| 06:39 | nicomo | hello Amit |
| 06:39 | 'morning all | |
| 08:00 | slef | morning |
| 08:01 | Kivutar: yes, I read it. My comment was 20 minutes before you mentioned it, unless bugzilla's timezones have got me again :) | |
| 08:15 | Amit | hi slef |
| 09:08 | chris | evening |
| 09:10 | hdl_laptop | hi chris |
| 09:40 | davi__ | hi |
| 10:11 | Amit | hi davi |
| 10:13 | mahesh_c | Hello |
| 10:13 | Amit | hello mahesh |
| 10:14 | mahesh_c | Can i use koha with SSHA encrypted password (in ldap)? |
| 10:14 | davi | hi Amit |
| 10:15 | mahesh_c | Hello Amit .. |
| 10:32 | Amit | hi galen |
| 10:32 | gmcharlt | hi Amit |
| 10:46 | Elwell_ | right - has anyone done any developer analysis of the svn / git logs? |
| 10:46 | gmcharlt | Elwell_: concerning what? |
| 10:46 | hdl_laptop: about? | |
| 10:46 | Elwell_ | feeling up for a challenge since I managed to produce http://andrewelwell.blogspot.c[…]tats-munging.html this morning |
| 10:47 | showing which developers stay with a project and which (ahem, like me) chuck in a single patch and give up | |
| 10:47 | gmcharlt | there's still time, Elwell_ :) |
| 10:48 | I haven't done that sort of timeline analysis | |
| 10:48 | but would be interesting | |
| 10:51 | Elwell_ | OK I'll stick it on the TODO_list_from_hell then |
| 10:51 | (guess who spent this morning hacking on a script rather than Real Work :-) | |
| 10:51 | gmcharlt | heh |
| 10:51 | you know, you got a bad deal if you sold your soul for a TODO list ;) | |
| 10:52 | Elwell_ | rememberthemilk. Nuff Said. |
| 11:06 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: ? |
| 11:06 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: did you see my comment for bug 3334? |
| 11:06 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3334 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamienkoha-fr.org, NEW, circ/hold-transfer-slip.pl missing in 3.0.x release tarballs |
| 11:07 | hdl_laptop | No I had not |
| 11:08 | But my patch fixes the problem. | |
| 11:09 | gmcharlt | true, but I think the patch can be improved slightly before it's submitted for HEAD and 3.0.x |
| 11:12 | hdl_laptop | here you are |
| 11:20 | Amit | hi hdl |
| 11:56 | by galen have a nice weekend |
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