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12:17 | ShunDi | hi kf, just got your response email :) |
12:18 | i'll try disabling the query features and see if this makes any difference | |
12:18 | kf | hi shunDi, sorry on telephone atm |
12:19 | ShunDi | np |
13:04 | kf: turning off QueryFuzzy did the trick, thanks a bunch for the tip! | |
13:30 | kf | youre welcome |
13:31 | im glad I could help | |
13:48 | ShunDi? still there? | |
14:09 | ShunDi | yep stol |
14:09 | still there ^^ | |
14:13 | wizzyrea | ok, I've been crashing my nog into this for a week (give or take) now, I'm looking at the patron messaging preferences (all occurrences of this table). I want to hide the row for Upcoming Events, but no matter what I do I can't seem to select it using jquery. It is in it's own div (patron-messaging-prefs), and it seems like it should be a simple matter of selecting the tr:contains('Upcoming Events') that's a child of patron-messaging-prefs... but maybe you |
14:14 | (or, harder for me but better for the project, we need to make that upcoming events notification hideable via syspref) | |
14:15 | (since it only works with proprietary additional software) | |
14:16 | jwagner | I was looking at the OPAC messaging tab myself a bit -- couldn't find any way to even turn off the tab. What I'd like to see is sysprefs for (a) display whole tab in OPAC or not, (b) display each option in the tab -- so the library could choose what options to give patrons. |
14:17 | wizzyrea | oh, you'll want our enhancements >.> |
14:17 | it lets you set defaults by patron type | |
14:17 | for add new patron | |
14:18 | jwagner | Yes -- that would cross a big section off my eventual to-do list :-) |
14:18 | wizzyrea | they're done, should be in the project now |
14:18 | you'll probably really like them | |
14:18 | jwagner | It's not just by patron type, though (saw the latest enhancements). The library wants to decide globally whether to display/allow e.g. upcoming events, text messaging, etc. |
14:18 | wizzyrea | isn't that already sysprefs? |
14:19 | er, lordy... english.. aren't there already sysprefs for that | |
14:19 | gmcharlt | not current |
14:19 | *ly | |
14:19 | there needs to be more work on the admin interface for message types | |
14:20 | wizzyrea | oh I think I see... you want to decide which notifications are available to choose |
14:20 | similar to what I want | |
14:20 | but a grander scale | |
14:21 | gmcharlt | yes |
14:21 | i.e., not something that's reliant on JS hacks | |
14:22 | wizzyrea | mmm hacks (tasty) |
14:23 | jwagner | Yes -- I'd like a global setting to allow/disallow display each line in the messaging list, plus a syspref to turn off the whole tab. Gives better control to the library. |
14:24 | wizzyrea | whole tab = I thought you could already do that? |
14:24 | but it's been a while since I looked | |
14:24 | gmcharlt | yeah, that's the EnhancedMessagingPreferences syspref, unless you're talking about turning it off just for the OPAC |
14:25 | jwagner | I couldn't find a way, even by hacking the template, so I brute-forced it by replacing the entire template with a generic text paragraph. Problem with turning off the Enhanced Messaging Preference setting is (as I understand it), if that's off hold and advance notices don't work. The site wants to use those, but not give patrons the various options. |
14:26 | Yes, just turn off the options in the OPAC. | |
14:27 | gmcharlt | I see |
14:27 | well, step one is to simply file an enhancement bug if you haven't already | |
14:27 | jwagner | The code that generates the tabs in the OPAC screen is kind of murky. No, haven't filed a bug yet (haven't had time) but it's on my list. |
14:28 | gmcharlt | I mean, pretty much any request of the form "I want this configuration option to be created, or added to the branch/circ matrix level" is going to be wanted by *somebody* eventually |
14:29 | jwagner | Yep. This can't be the only site that really doesn't want to give patrons an option to turn off their overdue notices.... |
14:30 | gmcharlt | that would be another layer of admin, actually |
14:31 | i.e., library would want to specify that the overdue notices can't be turned off by patron | |
14:31 | but library doesn't necessarily care what messaging mechanism the patron chooses | |
14:31 | as long as at least one method is active | |
14:31 | jwagner | The more I looked at it, the more complex it got. That's why I settled for the brute-force approach for now. (clicking the messaging tab calls a different template, so I just replaced that template) |
14:33 | wizzyrea | which reminds me about a couple of termiology changes I wanted to make to the messaging stuff |
14:34 | gmcharlt | which are? |
14:44 | wizzyrea | changing the text of the messaging tab to say "message log" instead of messaging |
14:44 | because that's what it is ^.^ | |
14:44 | gmcharlt | sure |
14:44 | wizzyrea | and all of the associated labels there |
14:45 | and another one that i'm not thinking of right now but will when I get into it I'm sure | |
14:45 | buut I figured there was no reason to make you guys change that when I can :) | |
14:45 | afk, coffee | |
14:52 | I might actually make the case that the Upcoming Events should be removed entirely until they sync with the internal calendar. | |
14:53 | or can pull from an iCal | |
14:53 | schuster | That way wizzyrea can get in on a patch! I see how she thinks... |
14:53 | wizzyrea | HA |
14:53 | well I gotta grab the low hanging fruit lol | |
15:46 | slef | should /tmp/sessionlog be replaced by C4::Log calls? |
15:47 | gmcharlt | slef: I think /tmp/sessionlog should be replaced, yes |
15:48 | slef | by C4::Log calls or otherwise? |
15:48 | gmcharlt | C4::Log or perhaps the Log4Perl proposed by acmoore a while back |
15:48 | my reservation about C4::Log is if we start logging all sessions in action_logs | |
15:48 | slef | I don't recall that proposal. Looking for URL |
15:49 | gmcharlt | we really ought to write a purge job for that table |
15:50 | slef | http://www.nabble.com/-RFC--Us[…]g-td19227795.html |
15:50 | gmcharlt | slef: with proposed patch at http://lists.koha.org/pipermai[…]ember/001689.html |
15:51 | slef | ok... for now, I think I'll do a small fix for 3.0.2 to cure a local problem |
15:52 | How do I make a patch that squashes lots of commits, by the way? I'm sure I've done it before, but can't remember how. | |
15:52 | gmcharlt | slef: one possible minimal fix is adding a koha-conf.xml setting for the location of the sessionlog file, and whether you want it at all |
15:52 | slef: git rebase --interactive origin | |
15:53 | lets you squash in a branch | |
15:54 | or git merge --squash into a new branch if you don't want to squash in your original branch | |
16:00 | slef | thanks |
16:16 | bigbrovar | hi guys .. just installed koha for the university were i work .. runs great although we have not started to use it .. |
16:17 | i was wondering if anyone could help enlighten me on hardwares like barcode scanners which can be used with koha on a ubuntuserver to make the process of cataloging easier | |
16:17 | nd also if its possible to creat local users for koha beside the koha admin | |
16:19 | schuster | Yes Yes and Yes... |
16:19 | Barcode readers - these are an input device just like a keyboard - so brand etc really doesn't matter - depends on if you want a USB connector or PS2 connector to your hardware. | |
16:20 | Local users - you create users in circulation to checkout - but then change their permissions for what they have access to - in the opac login/password you assign their login/password. | |
16:21 | That also works at the Koha staff login/password and if you have given them permissions they will have access to what you indicated. | |
16:21 | Hope that helps. | |
16:23 | gmcharlt | schuster++ # very quick on the draw |
16:23 | bigbrovar | schuster: alot it did thanks :) |
16:25 | ok am going to play the oliver twist and ask for more .. we have an ldap thingie going on here so i was wondering if we could make koha authenticate users from ldap? .. | |
16:26 | gmcharlt | yes, you can |
16:26 | bigbrovar | and am quite new to linux and seem to understand that is always a good idea to stick with device that works on linux ,, so i would appreciate if anyone could help me with a list of barcode scanner that have worked with linux/koha |
16:27 | gmcharlt | bigbrovar: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]:development:ldap |
16:27 | slef | @bug 3295 submitted and patch emailed |
16:27 | munin | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3295 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, chrisbigballofwax.co.nz, NEW, sessionlog does not contain real times |
16:27 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…].cgi?id=submitted could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId | |
16:27 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=and could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId | |
16:27 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]_bug.cgi?id=patch could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId | |
16:27 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]ug.cgi?id=emailed could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId | |
16:27 | slef | munin: you suck :) |
16:27 | munin | slef: Error: "you" is not a valid command. |
16:27 | gmcharlt | @dunno add I suck |
16:27 | munin | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Dunno #2 added. |
16:27 | gmcharlt | munin: you suck :) |
16:27 | munin | gmcharlt: I suck |
16:29 | schuster | Bigbrovar - if you are a library you probably already have equipment laying around - again it isn't an OS issue unless you are using USB but I would suspect as long as you have it loaded with standard USB support they would work as well. |
16:29 | slef | gmcharlt: is Perl4Log a 3.2 goal or later? |
16:29 | gmcharlt | slef: getting it added is reasonable for 3.2 |
16:29 | getting all logging handled by it is probably post 3.2 | |
16:30 | bigbrovar | thanks guys me = very happy now =)) |
16:30 | gmcharlt | do you have any opinion on the framework? |
16:30 | slef | and sessionlog in particular? |
16:30 | gmcharlt | getting it to handle sessionlog would be quick |
16:30 | so yes | |
16:30 | slef | not yet but anything is better than open >> |
16:30 | filing bug | |
16:33 | @bug 3296 | |
16:33 | munin | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3296 enhancement, P3, ---, chrisbigballofwax.co.nz, NEW, replace sessionlog with Perl4Log implementation |
16:34 | slef | could we get the Version in those too? |
16:34 | gmcharlt | don't see why not |
16:34 | slef | @bug 3296 |
16:34 | munin | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3296 enhancement, P3, ---, chrisbigballofwax.co.nz, NEW, replace sessionlog with Perl4Log implementation |
16:34 | slef | what's the ---? |
16:35 | gmcharlt | to clarify, you mean get the version in the @bug response? |
16:35 | slef | yep, if possible |
16:36 | I'm guessing not everyone here is working on all versions at once | |
16:38 | gmcharlt | @config supybot.plugins.Bugzilla.bugFormat "bug_severity priority version assigned_to bug_status short_desc" |
16:38 | munin | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
16:38 | gmcharlt | @bug 3296 |
16:38 | munin | gmcharlt: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3296 enhancement, P3, rel_3_2, chrisbigballofwax.co.nz, NEW, replace sessionlog with Perl4Log implementation |
16:39 | gmcharlt | slef: --- was the target milestone, which we don't really use thus far |
16:39 | slef | gmcharlt: thanks |
16:40 | is it worth adding the sponsorship status to the end or will that get silly fast? | |
16:40 | gmcharlt | @config supybot.plugins.Bugzilla.bugFormat "bug_severity priority version assigned_to bug_status cf_sponsorship short_desc" |
16:40 | munin | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
16:40 | gmcharlt | @bug 3296 |
16:40 | munin | gmcharlt: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3296 enhancement, P3, rel_3_2, chrisbigballofwax.co.nz, NEW, Seeking cosponsors, replace sessionlog with Perl4Log implementation |
16:41 | gmcharlt | @bug 3093 |
16:41 | munin | gmcharlt: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3093 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, HEAD, sedwardsalloycomputing.com, ASSIGNED, ---, Enhance placing of holds in staff interface |
16:42 | gmcharlt | @bug 3093 |
16:42 | munin | gmcharlt: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3093 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, HEAD, sedwardsalloycomputing.com, ASSIGNED, Sponsored, Enhance placing of holds in staff interface |
16:42 | gmcharlt | @bug 3296 |
16:42 | munin | gmcharlt: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3296 enhancement, P3, rel_3_2, chrisbigballofwax.co.nz, NEW, Seeking cosponsors, replace sessionlog with Perl4Log implementation |
16:42 | gmcharlt | @config supybot.plugins.Bugzilla.bugFormat "bug_severity priority version assigned_to bug_status short_desc" |
16:42 | munin | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
16:42 | gmcharlt | slef: removed it for now, it's not properly registering --- as the default value for new bugs |
16:43 | but I don't have a problem including it once I have a moment to figure out how to get it to be accurate | |
16:44 | @config supybot.plugins.Bugzilla.bugFormat "bug_severity priority version assigned_to bug_status cf_sponsorship short_desc" | |
16:44 | munin | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
16:44 | gmcharlt | slef: scratch that, was looking at older version of that back |
16:49 | atz | gmcharlt: looking at cities.pl: |
16:49 | select count(*) as total from borrowers,cities where borrowers.select_city=cities.cityid and cityid=? | |
16:49 | Unknown column 'borrowers.select_city' in 'where clause' | |
16:50 | should I try to fix this or just mark it FIXME? | |
16:52 | gmcharlt | atz: I suggest fixing it by either taking out that check (there isn't a real FK between borrowers and cities) or comparing borrowers.city and B_city to cities.city_name and city_zipcode |
16:53 | I doubt that doing latter is worth the time, though | |
16:53 | or simply comment out the offending lines and do a FIXME in case paul_p and SAN-OP have something more elaborate in mind | |
17:08 | wizzyrea | fyi: there's a kohakansas channel on freenode now :P |
17:08 | is so new it's still wet. | |
17:09 | Sharon | I'm sending the invite out to our libraries now |
17:09 | wizzyrea | also a post about it and video instructions on how to get it at http://www.nexpresslibrary.org |
17:10 | not that any of YOU would need such instructions | |
17:30 | slef | wizzyrea: why freenode? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2[…]y_a_piece_of_net/ |
18:15 | wizzyrea | slef: that's a shame |
18:15 | it's mostly for testing, to 1. see if our librarians will use it, and 2. gotta start somewhere. | |
18:41 | pianohacker | bbl |
18:59 | gmcharlt | atz: I'm thinking that StringSearch ought to be abstracted and moved to C4 |
19:00 | since a gazillion scripts implement some version of it | |
19:00 | atz | yeah, but i won't be doing that. every one of these damn scripts has its own copy/paste hack of StringSearch |
19:00 | most of them take multiple args and use only 1 | |
19:01 | wizzyrea | curious: what does C4 stand for? |
19:01 | atz | but i agree simple stuff like that should be in a CRUD layer, or at least C4 |
19:01 | wizzyrea: "if you touch it, it blows up" | |
19:01 | wizzyrea | atz: pbbt wiseacre |
19:02 | but funny nonetheless | |
19:02 | atz | actually i guess an old system used C2 |
19:02 | chris told the story at Plano, i think | |
19:03 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: http://koha.org/cgi-bin/logs.p[…]:20&search=Search |
19:04 | wizzyrea | atz: oh, you were only partly kidding |
19:05 | funny story. I love stuff like that | |
19:17 | chris | morning |
19:19 | wizzyrea: hlt used to and i think still do use irc | |
19:19 | mostly for doing things like 'can you send a copy of harry potter to levin in the next run, we are out' :) | |
19:24 | wizzyrea | Chris: i like it as a solution for distributed workforces so far. in IRC it's always a question of being shy |
19:25 | or being afraid of looking dumb | |
19:26 | chris | this irc server exists because katipo have a distributed office, and its been going for 12 years now :) |
19:26 | atz | or your audience being a bunch of jerks. |
19:26 | wizzyrea | yes, we are fortunate that we have very few jerks here |
19:26 | none that I can think of, actually | |
19:27 | chris | jerks-- |
19:29 | coffee++ | |
19:31 | wizzyrea | what is it, @karma? |
19:31 | gmcharlt | keeps track of ++ and -- |
19:31 | @karma coffee | |
19:31 | munin | gmcharlt: Karma for "coffee" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. |
19:31 | gmcharlt | @karma jerks |
19:31 | munin | gmcharlt: Karma for "jerks" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1. |
19:31 | wizzyrea | jerks-- |
19:31 | atz | @karma |
19:31 | munin | atz: Highest karma: "gmcharlt" (3), "koha" (2), and "coffee" (1). Lowest karma: "jerks" (-2), "keeps track of ++ and " (-1), and "sirsi" (-1). |
19:31 | wizzyrea | LOL Sirsi |
19:32 | Sirsi-- | |
19:32 | atz | lol "keeps track of " |
19:32 | wizzyrea | i know, I'm giggling about that too |
19:32 | gmcharlt | munin: you can parse better than that |
19:32 | munin | gmcharlt: I suck |
19:32 | gmcharlt | to add to munin's list of error messages, use @dunno |
19:32 | wizzyrea | ...wow |
19:33 | gmcharlt | e.g. |
19:33 | @dunno add downloading the Perl source | |
19:33 | munin | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Dunno #3 added. |
19:33 | wizzyrea | @dunno RTFM |
19:33 | munin | wizzyrea: downloading the Perl source |
19:33 | wizzyrea | aww |
19:34 | oh | |
19:34 | @dunno add RTFM | |
19:34 | munin | wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
19:34 | wizzyrea | boooo |
19:34 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: yep, but it's easy to register yourself |
19:34 | wizzyrea | right... der... |
19:34 | 1m | |
19:40 | chris | does munin do weather? |
19:40 | gmcharlt | chris: not currently |
19:40 | I could load the weather underground plugin, but I was hoping to find a weather plugin that had a more global scope | |
19:41 | chris | *nod* |
19:41 | the metar one used to goodish | |
19:41 | wizzyrea | ha you've gone irc bot crazy! |
19:42 | but munin is helpful | |
19:43 | chris | lazywebs wht is freezing in F? |
19:43 | brendan | 32 degrees |
19:43 | chris | ta |
19:46 | wizzyrea | is there a known issue with special due dates? |
19:53 | chris | breakfast time bbiab |
19:54 | pianohacker | wizzyrea: How do you mean? Manually specified due dates on the checkout screen? |
19:54 | wizzyrea | on the details screen |
19:54 | Sharon | no, when renewing items at moremembers |
19:55 | pianohacker | Ah. Hrm, not that I know of. What's going on? |
19:55 | wizzyrea | erm, specifying the date doesn't work lol |
19:56 | pianohacker | Hm. That would be a problem, yes :) |
19:56 | rhcl | chris: http://www38.wolframalpha.com/[…]egrees+centigrade |
19:58 | schuster | LDAP question - how can I check to see if Net::LDAP module is already installed? |
19:58 | atz | perl -e 'use Net::LDAP;' |
19:58 | pianohacker | schuster: If you go to the About screen in Koha, there's a screen under there that will show you also |
20:00 | schuster | Oh hey way cool! Thanks to both of you... pianohacker - I've seen the tab but just never changed from the first one! hA! |
20:00 | pianohacker | np |
20:35 | chris | back for a little while |
20:37 | trying to think up things to do today, to top yesterdays effort | |
20:38 | im not sure i can beat music group, lunch at a cafe 'where's my coffee' shouts kahu, playtime in the park and an ice cream | |
20:38 | atarau of course slept through the whole thing, so he is easy to please | |
20:39 | oh hey gmcharlt did i show you kahu working on his koha code? | |
20:42 | wizzyrea | pic or it didn't happen |
20:45 | gmcharlt | chris: :) |
20:45 | chris | looking for the pic now |
20:46 | wizzyrea | oi this day is never ending lol |
20:56 | chris | i really need to label my photos this is taking ages |
20:58 | http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]p?g2_itemId=11450 | |
20:59 | http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]p?g2_itemId=11453 | |
20:59 | he uses one of these fancy graphical interfaces :) (that was about 1.5 years ago) | |
20:59 | gmcharlt | kahu++ |
20:59 | Elwell | slef: (re freenode) that article is somewhat dated seeing as lilo died ... |
21:01 | pianohacker | Hehe. You've doomed the poor child to summers spent at the computer coding |
21:01 | chris | hehe |
21:04 | the imac is a pretty resilient piece of hardware, its taken a battering | |
21:04 | wizzyrea | Oh man you are not kiddig about imacs |
21:04 | kahu++ | |
21:05 | I think I see some of the old opac came from in there... | |
21:05 | <3 kidding | |
21:05 | chris | heh |
21:05 | pianohacker | So, so far kahu is beating out sirsi in karma |
21:05 | wizzyrea | this surprises you? |
21:05 | chris | kahu is currently eating his peanut butter on toast with a spoon |
21:06 | because "its better" | |
21:06 | when i asked why | |
21:06 | wizzyrea | I tend to agree there |
21:06 | chris | you eat toast with a spoon??? |
21:06 | weirdo :) | |
21:06 | wizzyrea | sometimes |
21:06 | pianohacker | Now, don't make fun of those Kansans and their culture |
21:07 | chris | heh |
21:07 | wizzyrea | ...or lack thereof |
21:07 | rofl | |
21:08 | chris | http://twitter.com/kahu |
21:09 | wizzyrea | priceless: i stuck a cracker in mom's bum crack this morning and she didn't find it until she went to work. |
21:09 | pianohacker | ... ok |
21:09 | chris | hehe |
21:10 | wizzyrea | where I come from bloobs does not mean blueberry... |
21:11 | chris | kahu has his own dialect |
21:11 | and it changes almost daily | |
21:11 | wizzyrea | i love kid dialect |
21:12 | chris | http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]e-are-my-krasses/ <-- he now says "where are my krasses, i cant see anything" when he goes to read a book, from his grandma we think |
21:13 | (they are old ones with no lenses :)) | |
21:20 | ok toast finished, im back on duty | |
21:21 | wizzyrea | gl :) |
23:59 | atz | gmcharlt (or anybody): what's the last patch you've seen from me? |
23:59 | gmcharlt | atz: cleanup cities.pl |
23:59 | atz | thx |
00:03 | couple more sent | |
00:22 | gmcharlt | atz: got 'em |
01:03 | @load Weather | |
01:03 | munin | gmcharlt: Error: No plugin named "Weather" exists. |
11:37 | slef | Elwell: freenode have never rebuked those actions, though. |
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