IRC log for #koha, 2009-05-30

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12:01 gmcharlt_ hdl_laptop1: yeah, part of the 2866 patch
12:01 there's a typo in hte message for ab44e2986a0664c1f6c87d7a292d76e547ab978e
12:01 says 2748 when I meant 2478
12:02 nicomo gmcharlt: non-developper question here obviously
12:02 gmcharlt ?
12:02 nicomo but i was wondering if this patch only affects
12:03 the use of overdue.pl from the UI
12:03 or also overdue-notices.pl from cronjob?
12:03 gmcharlt nicomo: only overdue.pl from the UI
12:03 nicomo so the csv one gets from overdue-notices.pl is still buggy, right?
12:04 gmcharlt I don't know, actually - the bug was that overdue.pl was trying to run overdue-notices.pl, but failing to invoke it
12:05 I'm not sure if the CSV output of overdue-notices.pl is OK or not
12:05 nicomo it doesn't seem to be
12:05 and i wasn't sure if that was the same bug as reported by Debra : #2478
12:06 gmcharlt nicomo: no, I think that's a different one
12:06 hdl_laptop1 gmcharlt: in fact, it seems that overdue_notices.pl fails to display items information
12:07 gmcharlt hdl_laptop1: just in the CSV output, or also in the messages it sends?
12:08 heh - quote I'm looking at from the bugs..koha.org quips database: Ah, September, when the sysadmins turn colors and fall off the trees.... -- Dave Van Domelen
12:09 nicomo eh eh
12:10 gmcharlt: I haven't checked the message itself
12:10 but csv looks like this
12:10 header ok :
12:10 name,surname, (etc),itemcount,itemsinfo
12:11 then:
12:11 Nicolas,MORIN,,69130,ECULLY,nicolas.morin@blabla.fr,0,
12:11 even though I have 5 docs late
12:12 gmcharlt nicomo: this may be bug 3011
12:12 nahuel made a patch for it which was accepted into HEAD on 6 March and into 3.0.x two days ago
12:13 nicomo seems to be
12:13 so should be in 3.0.2
12:14 gmcharlt yes
12:16 nicomo cool, thanks for the pointer to this bug
14:55 atz would appreciate comments at HTTP_REFERER
14:55 er.... http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2426
14:57 pianohacker "I think ... and circulation.pl have to be refactored" <- understatement of the decade
15:21 atz interesting.... SourceForge buys Ohloh
15:21 http://arstechnica.com/open-so[…]eb-site-ohloh.ars
15:22 gmcharlt hopefully SF will take UI ideas from Ohloh, not vice versa
15:23 pianohacker They are still a bit clunky, even after the recent changes
15:58 gmcharlt nahuel: about?
15:58 nahuel gmcharlt, ??
15:59 yep
15:59 gmcharlt your latest 3267 patch doesn't apply against HEAD
16:00 nahuel rah
16:00 hmmm ok I see
16:00 i'll send you again
16:01 gmcharlt thx
17:13 atz gmcharlt: would appreciate feedback on bug#2426
17:15 basically the IndyBranches implementation for controlling "Set branch" is fractured
17:16 and whatever fix I implement will reveal that... i.e. "yuo broke it!"
17:29 gmcharlt atz: some thoughts about it
17:29 1. this is a good candidate for AJAX - no need to redirect at all
17:30 atz good thought
17:30 gmcharlt 2. catalogue->setbranch is OK as a granular permission
17:30 3. indybranches is orthogonal to user permissions in this case, but that's OK for now
17:31 although potentially it could implement the restriction by overriding the value of a particular users setbranch permission
17:31 atz yeah, system groups will inevitably come into play here
17:34 for (3) are you saying it is OK to leave the manage permission in play for this weird indy branches exception case?
17:35 that would make the bug an INVALID
17:35 gmcharlt no, the permission should go away
17:35 atz so basically we'll be showing the link to indy branches users, even if they can't use it
17:35 gmcharlt and be replaced a test on the indybranch syspref and whether or not the user is a superlibrarian or has cataloge->changebranch
17:36 atz superlibrarian gets all user permissions already
17:37 gmcharlt true
17:40 atz gmcharlt: what do you think about a psuedo permission for setbranch?  i.e., granular permissions would populate it from catalogue:setbranch but it would still exist for non-granular
17:40 ?
17:40 gmcharlt sounds reasonable
17:42 atz i'll give it a try
18:05 ryan seen owen
18:06 pianohacker He hasn't been in much, with the new kid
18:06 ryan pianohacker: you're better than a bot :)
18:07 pianohacker Heh. Not quite the same response time, but...
18:41 bbl
19:03 brendan hello #koha
19:03 gmcharlt hi brendan
19:04 brendan hey gmcharlt
19:04 hey gmcharlt have a good weekend -- looking forward to seeing all those good acq patches
19:04 gmcharlt thx, you too
20:52 atz gmcharlt: all these can_view_labeledMARC, can_view_MARC etc. are wrecking hell on my granular permissions work
20:52 gmcharlt atz: that's some older stuff
20:52 feel free to rename the template variables
20:52 chris mornig
20:53 atz i just got merge conflicts on today's rebase
20:53 gmcharlt hi chris
20:53 chris wow 93
00:57 hmm
00:58 pianohacker ?
01:01 chris tricky new blogspam
01:02 seemingly plausible without close reading
01:10 pianohacker 'night koha
05:28 Amit hi chris
05:28 mason
05:28 good morning
06:31 hi adminacct
06:32 hi cait
06:32 cait hi Amit
06:33 chris hi amit and cait
06:34 cait good morning chris
06:34 did not realize how far away nz is, until i started looking for flights to wellington g
06:34 chris hehe
06:35 yes, the german woman i sat next to on the flight back from the US, had already been travelling a while by then
06:36 i have done flights to europe and return quite a few times now, and i definitely recommend a stopover
06:36 cait 27 h 30 min
06:36 chris maybe in the us, or singapore, or thailand
06:36 depending on teh airline you fly
06:37 Amit hi chris morning
06:38 chris: Delhi public take around 2 month for making z39.50 server i think this is first from india side
06:39 they purchase one more server for making this
06:40 chris cool amit
06:40 Amit today is our meeting with delhi public library people's
06:43 cait chris: is there a way to change normal view on staff side? I already started to change xslt-files to display 880 fields with hebrew title information
06:44 chris hmm i saw something about that just recently
06:45 http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]p=Koha;a=shortlog
06:45 have a look there
06:46 http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]e2799b99d49202ee6
06:46 cait ah
06:47 chris http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]d427ab65a478691e6
06:47 etc
06:47 so looks like there might be some new features just come in
06:48 cait yeah, but sounds like a new MARC orientated view
06:49 xslt for staff side would be really great, I love experimenting with it for OPAC dislpay
06:50 chris yeah, i think that is part of the plan too
06:50 just not done yet afaik
06:51 cait ok :)
06:52 I wish I could add a feature like this myself - but I m learning more about Koha everyday :)
06:53 chris :) we will be waiting for a patch soon then :-)
06:55 cait soon is too early, but I really want to get listed in your history one day ;)
06:56 atm I should read those books about accounting for my distance study :( Its computer science and still cant get away without business studies
07:01 chris :(
07:12 ron has anyone here got first-hand experience with LDAP support in Koha?
07:14 chris probably not at this time of week, unless mason is about
07:15 ron I've been told that the ldap functionality in koha requires that a privileged ldap admin passwd be stored *in plaintext* for koha's use
07:15 chris: hmm. ok
07:15 chris: btw, did you read the URL I sent you?
07:15 chris yep :)
07:15 ron cool, huh? :)
07:15 chris sure is
07:16 ron that's what we're deploying koha on
07:16 we hope to include koha in future deployments too
07:16 however that kinda demands that we get ldap working
07:17 uh, gotta go shopping. bak l8r
07:18 chris i do know that lots of people have
07:18 i just have never needed to
07:18 ron ok
07:18 thx
07:18 taciao
07:18 ciao
07:18 Amit hi ron
07:18 ron gotta go, talk later
07:54 Amit hi magnusenger
07:56 magnusenger hi!
08:28 ron crikey it's cold outside

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