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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:04 | kf | good morning |
| 12:04 | gmcharlt | hi kf |
| 12:05 | kf | hi gmcharlt :) |
| 12:28 | gmcharlt | nahuel, paul_p: need a syspref translated |
| 12:29 | FilterBeforeOverdueReport - Do not run overdue report until filter selected | |
| 12:29 | paul_p | "Ne pas lancer le rapport sur les retards tant qu'il n'y a pas de filtre" |
| 12:29 | 'morning gmcharlt | |
| 12:29 | gmcharlt | good morning paul_p |
| 12:29 | paul_p | (no more morning here :D ) |
| 12:29 | gmcharlt | any diacritics in that phrase? if so, pastebin might be better |
| 12:31 | paul_p | hey ! no diacritics here (it's quite uncommon...) |
| 12:31 | gmcharlt | :) |
| 12:31 | thanks | |
| 12:38 | paul_p: so a bunch of acq patches coming later today? | |
| 12:39 | paul_p | yerp, I hope. Do you want them through patcheskoha.org or pm ? |
| 12:39 | gmcharlt | send them to patcheskoha.org |
| 12:39 | paul_p | there are some patches not related to new_acq. How to send them with the -n ? |
| 12:40 | (I have a meeting in 20mn, I hope it will last less than 2 hours, then your expected patches) | |
| 12:40 | gmcharlt | paul_p: that's fine - if there are are some of them that are not related to acq and that you think should be apply before I merge the new_acq branch into master, just let me know which ones |
| 12:40 | paul_p | will do that. |
| 12:41 | (unless i've missed some, they are all at the beginning, or at the end, and contains a "not related to new_acq" comment) | |
| 12:41 | gmcharlt | ok |
| 16:36 | paul_p | gmcharlt: patches sent. Time to go for me. See you tomorrow. good day to everyone ! |
| 16:36 | pianohacker | paul_p++ |
| 16:37 | gmcharlt | paul_p: cool |
| 16:50 | atz | repair guy says I need a new washing machine :( |
| 16:50 | pianohacker | Ouch, not fun |
| 16:51 | If it's like our recent changeout, moving it could be the most difficult part (dang things are heavy) | |
| 16:59 | cait | paul there? just wanted to say that I love reading the acquisiton patches, cant wait to see new acq in action! |
| 17:00 | pianohacker | He went home, its ~7:00 in france |
| 17:01 | cait | I know, in Germany too :) |
| 17:01 | I will simply repeat saying it, until he gets to hear it | |
| 17:01 | pianohacker | Can't wait to test it with the staff at my library, tho, our current acquisitions process involves a couple of wiki pages and PBWiki's email notification feature... |
| 17:02 | cait: Good plan | |
| 17:02 | cait | sounds interesting |
| 17:02 | * adding column to booksellers table: gstrate that will tell the gst rate for the bookseller. | |
| 17:02 | * adding sysprefs: AcqCreateItem (define when item creation is done ordering/recieving/cataloguing), CurrencyFormat | |
| 17:02 | those features are what we really missed until now | |
| 17:02 | pianohacker | Oh, I missed those paging through, those do sound cool |
| 18:30 | Ricardo | Hi everyone :) |
| 18:30 | gmcharlt | hi Ricardo |
| 18:31 | Ricardo | gmcharlt: Hi Galen. I saw your reply to my patch to the "INSTALL.opensuse" file. Thanks for accepting it and providing input regarding the branch :) |
| 18:31 | gmcharlt | no problem |
| 18:37 | Ricardo | Newbie git question: is there any argument to git-branch to show the origin/remote branches side-by-side with our ones (that are based on them)? Not sure if I'm being clear here :) |
| 18:39 | gmcharlt | Ricardo: a couple tools that would help visualizing them include gitk and tig |
| 18:40 | if your looking for list of commits that are in the new branch but not its origin | |
| 18:40 | you could try | |
| 18:41 | git log --pretty=oneline master..origin/master | |
| 18:41 | and git log --pretty=oneline origin/master..master | |
| 18:41 | replace origin/master and master with the branch names you're interested in, of courxe | |
| 18:41 | Ricardo | gmcharlt: actually I was trying to find a command to know if "ricardowork" local branch "points" to origin/HEAD or origin/3.0.x |
| 18:41 | ("points" is not the better word to use here, granted) | |
| 18:42 | danny | Ricardo, I don't know if there is a better way, but you could switch to that branch then do a git config --list |
| 18:42 | gmcharlt | or look at .git/config directly |
| 18:42 | e.g., | |
| 18:42 | [branch "3.0.x"] | |
| 18:42 | remote = origin | |
| 18:42 | merge = refs/heads/3.0.x | |
| 18:43 | that will tell you the default branch that a git pull would work from | |
| 18:43 | Ricardo | gmcharlt: .git/config ... BRILLIANT! Thanks! :) |
| 18:44 | ryan | Ricardo: I've played with qgit a bit. seems easier to work with than gitk. interesting for visualization, but in the end commandline works best. |
| 18:45 | Ricardo | ryan: Oh... I don't have any alternatives to the command line. I have created a virtual machine running openSUSE 11.0 *without* any XWindows. Thanks for the tip regarding qgit, though :) |
| 18:46 | Now, if there was a git "graphical" client based on curses/ncurses that I could run on the command line... THAT would be awesome! :) | |
| 18:47 | gmcharlt | Ricardo: tig is the closest that I know of for that |
| 18:47 | there may be others, of course | |
| 18:49 | Ricardo | gmcharlt: Oh. Tig is curses based? Cool. I didn't know that. |
| 18:49 | gmcharlt | Ricardo: yep - http://jonas.nitro.dk/tig/manual.html |
| 18:50 | Ricardo | gmcharlt: I get it. I should have RTFM ;-) |
| 18:51 | yast -i tig ... done! :) Let me check this | |
| 18:53 | gmcharlt: Looks very nice (openSUSE 11.0 has tig 0.11 while the latest version is 0.14, but I think that's OK for now). Thanks for the info! :) | |
| 18:53 | gmcharlt | thank beppu, who pointed me to tig |
| 18:54 | Ricardo | Thanks beppu... wherever you are! |
| 19:00 | While chris isn't here yet... What's a good way to test locally my translation (po file and "pt-PT" new directory) , before submitting it through git? | |
| 19:01 | gmcharlt | Ricardo: grab the PO files and rebuild the templates |
| 19:01 | Ricardo | gmcharlt: Right... I tried that at work and got an error. Let me try it here also, and I'll tell you what the error is. |
| 19:02 | I'm guessing that, for translations for 3.0.2, I should be working on the 3.0.x branch, right? | |
| 19:02 | gmcharlt | yep |
| 19:03 | Ricardo | Right, thanks |
| 19:22 | gmcharlt: OK. I now have the two PO files in my /rickohaclone/misc/translator/po directory. Now what should I do? | |
| 19:26 | gmcharlt | Ricardo: ./install-code.pl pt-PT from the misc/translator should do it |
| 19:26 | Ricardo | OK. Missing Locale/PO.pm... That one is easy to solve (CPAN to the rescue) |
| 19:32 | Very nice... It's working! (Creating folders and files under "koha-tmpl") | |
| 19:33 | "The install seems to be successful." :) | |
| 19:37 | gmcharlt: Now, should I run perl Makefile.PL in /rickkhohaclone again? | |
| 19:37 | gmcharlt | Ricardo: no reason to - assumiing that your database was already fully installed |
| 19:37 | all you need to do is check your language sysprefs | |
| 19:37 | and activate pt-PT | |
| 19:38 | Ricardo | gmcharlt: Hmmm... Let me check that |
| 20:02 | Not bad :) I'll have to correct some things... but I think I can make it. I wonder if chris is back now. Chris? | |
| 20:14 | I'm going to have dinner. If Chris shows up, please tell him, that he's FORBIDDEN to release 3.0.2 before I can submit the latest version of the Portuguese translation in a few hours... PLEASE! :) | |
| 20:15 | gmcharlt | Ricardo: well, I think that's more hdl's decision :) |
| 20:30 | richard | hi |
| 20:38 | Ricardo | Hi richard |
| 20:39 | richard | hi ricardo |
| 20:39 | Ricardo | gmcharlt: OK. Thanks for the tip. I hope hdl shows up here... but it's probably a bit too late for that (I think it's now 23H40 in France) |
| 20:40 | Actually, it's 22H40. Not bad: I gained one hour in a second, eheh | |
| 20:41 | gmcharlt: A problem of interpretation... | |
| 20:41 | gmcharlt: When you say "Manage global system preferences like MARC flavor..." | |
| 20:42 | do you mean " [You] manage global system preferences..." | |
| 20:42 | or "[To] manage global system preferences..." ? | |
| 20:43 | gmcharlt | Ricardo: both, more or less, in English |
| 20:44 | but "[To] manage global system preferences..." is closer | |
| 20:44 | Ricardo | gmcharlt: Right... The problem is when I want to translate it. In Portuguese and French, the distinction is clearer |
| 20:44 | OK thanks :) | |
| 20:53 | gmcharlt: Still there? | |
| 20:54 | gmcharlt | yep |
| 20:54 | Ricardo | I see something that seems to be an error |
| 20:54 | String to translate: | |
| 20:54 | "> List Fields | |
| 20:54 | in /koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/labels/label-edit-layout.tmpl:68 | |
| 20:54 | That line reads as: | |
| 20:54 | <input type="radio" name="layoutchoice" value="layout_string" <!-- TMPL_IF NAME="formatstring" -->checked="checked"<!-- /TMPL_IF -->"> List Fields </input> | |
| 20:55 | gmcharlt | yeah, the translator doesn't like it if you embed a TMPL_IF inside an HTML tag |
| 20:56 | Ricardo | But isn't that " (double quote) before > List Fields wrong? |
| 20:56 | (I mean, I don't see the opening of it) | |
| 20:57 | gmcharlt | yeah, that's also wrong |
| 20:58 | Ricardo | :( OK. So, how should I translate it in order for it NOT to crash in a terrible way? :-S |
| 20:59 | Should I just translate the List Fields part (without any quotes) | |
| 20:59 | ? | |
| 20:59 | gmcharlt | for the moment |
| 20:59 | and that will probably be OK even after the template is fixed | |
| 20:59 | Ricardo | Right. I'll do that thanks. Should I submit a patch later to correct that tmpl file? |
| 21:00 | Right. That's what I thought :) | |
| 21:01 | chris | morning |
| 21:01 | gmcharlt | hi chris |
| 21:02 | pianohacker | hey chris |
| 21:02 | richard | hi chris |
| 21:03 | Ricardo | Good morning Chris! :) How are your lobbying skills in order for hdl wait a few (just a few! honest!) more hours for the string freeze for 3.0.2? |
| 21:04 | chris | well he is asleep now |
| 21:04 | and he hasnt tagge the repo yet | |
| 21:04 | so go for it :) | |
| 21:04 | Ricardo | chris: Great! :) |
| 21:04 | chris | im about to push up a round of .po changes |
| 21:05 | Ricardo | chris: I'm near 100% (althout some strings are still marked fuzzy) for the Portuguese OPAC |
| 21:05 | chris | cool, its all at translate.koha.org eh? |
| 21:05 | Ricardo | What happens to the fuzzy strings? Will they appear or not? |
| 21:05 | chris | yes |
| 21:05 | Ricardo | Yes, it is :) |
| 21:05 | chris | thats purely for the translators |
| 21:05 | Ricardo | What does %p mean in Pootle? |
| 21:05 | chris | to go hmmm im not sure thats right |
| 21:06 | Ricardo | Right... I mean... err, you know ;-) |
| 21:06 | chris | no idea what %p is |
| 21:07 | Ricardo | chris: I don't know if you scrolled up. The thing is there's a mistake in /koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/labels/label-edit-layout.tmpl:68 |
| 21:07 | <input type="radio" name="layoutchoice" value="layout_string" <!-- TMPL_IF NAME="formatstring" -->checked="checked"<!-- /TMPL_IF -->"> List Fields </input> | |
| 21:07 | The " (double quote) before > List Fields should NOT be there | |
| 21:07 | And then the translator shows: | |
| 21:07 | String to translate: | |
| 21:08 | "> List Fields | |
| 21:08 | ... and the Portuguese translation (not sure how it ended up there... maybe Rafael António using POEdit, shows as this: | |
| 21:08 | %p Lista de campos | |
| 21:09 | chris | and the %p breaks things? |
| 21:09 | Ricardo | I don't know :-/ It's in Labels that I don't use. Let me try to check it |
| 21:12 | It seems that it ended up not being translated... at least it shows more or less the original strings (untranslated) at: | |
| 21:12 | http://192.168.0.1:8080/cgi-bi[…]el-edit-layout.pl | |
| 21:13 | chris | and if you take the %p out is it bette? |
| 21:14 | Ricardo | Not sure... I think that I have to do the "full cycle" to test that (change it, download PO file, run ./install_code.pl ... right? |
| 21:15 | chris | you can just edit the .po file with a txt editor |
| 21:15 | then run install_code.pl | |
| 21:16 | Ricardo | The problem is running install_code.pl It's S-L-O-W in my 512 Meg virtual machine. Let me change some more things in the STAFF PO file, besides that :) |
| 21:16 | chris | :) |
| 21:21 | Ricardo | OK... Pootle started to slow down now. Probably, too many people hitting on it now. I'll try to download the file, do the change and test it then |
| 21:22 | I hope wget from the translate.koha.org web site respects UTF-8 :-S | |
| 21:24 | chris | i think someone is uploading piles of stuff to pootle |
| 21:25 | faster now? | |
| 21:25 | Ricardo | Yes. Faster now. Thanks :) |
| 21:26 | chris | was an upload of spanish |
| 21:27 | everyone is racing :) | |
| 21:29 | wizzyrea | Dah! Are we coming up on the string freeze?! Wowie zowie! |
| 21:29 | chris | we have been on the string freeze for a while (for 3.0.2) |
| 21:29 | we are coming up on the translation freeze | |
| 21:30 | and then release shortly after that | |
| 21:30 | i suspect HDL is writing the release notes for 3.0.2 (or was earlier) | |
| 21:31 | so 3.0.2 will come out, then not that long after (a month or 2) will be 3.0.3 | |
| 21:31 | somewhere round there will be feature freeze for 3.2.0 .. and string freeze after that | |
| 21:31 | confused yet? :) | |
| 21:32 | Ricardo | chris: Nah... That's way too easy. |
| 21:33 | Spanish and Portuguese are alike: we thrive on deadlines! ;-) | |
| 21:33 | chris | hehe |
| 21:49 | wizzyrea | oh I read wrong... for 3.0.2, not 3.2 |
| 21:49 | that's why I was wowied | |
| 21:50 | gmcharlt | nope, no string freeze for 3.2 :) |
| 22:15 | chris | not yet anyway :) |
| 22:38 | Jo | Morena |
| 22:38 | chris | ata marie jo |
| 22:39 | Jo | ( 2 ways of saying good morning in Maori for those non-Kiwi's among us) |
| 23:00 | Ricardo | chris: Still there? |
| 23:03 | Jo | he'll be biab |
| 23:03 | Ricardo | Jo: Thanks :) |
| 01:05 | pianohacker | gmcharlt: I know you've mentioned this before, but I if I wanted to get something reasonably large into 3.2 (like the new sysprefs editor), when should it be finished by, roughly? |
| 01:06 | gmcharlt | pianohacker: feature freeze is end of August |
| 01:07 | pianohacker | Okay. Thanks |
| 01:07 | Ricardo | Chris: Are you back now? |
| 01:07 | gmcharlt | although it would be a good idea to have at least a prototype of the sysprefs stuff out for the devs to look at by the end of June, given its size |
| 01:07 | pianohacker | Yup |
| 01:07 | Do you still have any back-burner plans for a change to the sysprefs upgrade mechanism? | |
| 01:08 | gmcharlt | pianohacker: yup |
| 01:08 | that's pretty much essential for 3.2 | |
| 01:08 | there's also http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]ystem_preferences floating around | |
| 01:09 | pianohacker | Hmm. Seems to cover both sysprefs and other config tables (branches, issuingrules) |
| 01:09 | gmcharlt | yeah, but syspref import/export alone potentially could fall out naturally from what you and I want to do |
| 01:09 | pianohacker | Yup |
| 01:14 | Ricardo | When is the code freeze (not string) for 3.0.2? |
| 01:15 | gmcharlt | Ricardo: I don't know if Henri has declared it frozen formally, but I suspect it's basically frozen now for everything excpet blocker bug fixes |
| 01:15 | Ricardo | gmcharlt: OK, thanks |
| 01:21 | If Chris show up here, can you PLEASE ask him to submit one last time the patch for pt-PT (OPAC and Intranet)? The files in Pootle now are up-to-date. I'm exhausted (it's 2H20 AM here) and won't be able to translate any further :) | |
| 01:22 | pianohacker | can do. Thanks for your work |
| 01:22 | Ricardo | pianohacker: You're welcome, Jesse! :) |
| 01:23 | gmcharlt | Ricardo++ |
| 01:23 | Ricardo | gmcharlt: Thanks Galen! :) |
| 01:25 | I must say our names (in the Translations page) went into Bold (strong). I don't know why. If you want to un-bold them, be my guest. But please, DON'T remove them! :) | |
| 02:11 | Ricardo_AWAY | Back. Thank you very much Chris. Just saw the pt-PT files in gitweb! :) |
| 02:12 | Time to go to bed now. 3H12 AM! Take care everyone. Here's to another Great KOHA Release! | |
| 02:12 | chris | cool |
| 02:12 | :) | |
| 02:12 | Ricardo_AWAY | :) |
| 02:12 | Take care! | |
| 02:21 | pianohacker | Gah, finally finished commit. Good night, all |
| 02:22 | chris | night pianohacker |
| 04:09 | Amit | hi chris, mason |
| 04:09 | good morning koha | |
| 04:09 | hi jo | |
| 04:10 | richard | hi Amit |
| 04:11 | Amit | hi richard |
| 08:20 | nahuel | did someone has already seen a tmpl_process segfault ? |
| 08:47 | kf | hi nahuel |
| 08:56 | chris | yep |
| 08:57 | was reported on the koha-translate list | |
| 08:59 | nahuel | ok |
| 08:59 | too bad | |
| 09:55 | hdl_laptop1 | chris: have you seen this segfault too ? |
| 10:04 | chris | no |
| 10:05 | but i have 4 gig of ram on the machine i build templates on | |
| 10:05 | and i suspect its caused by running out of ram | |
| 10:06 | im rerunning install.pl to generate all the templates for every po file | |
| 10:06 | so ill see what happens | |
| 10:07 | it worked ok last time | |
| 10:29 | hmm done 20 languages, and no segfault yet | |
| 10:34 | yep, done them all no segfault | |
| 10:41 | hdl_laptop1 | ..... |
| 10:49 | nahuel | hdl_laptop1, on my laptop I have not this bug, with the same source code as in the remote install |
| 10:50 | I think it's a perl module bug | |
| 10:50 | like Locale::Po | |
| 10:50 | hdl_laptop1 | F..... da perl |
| 10:50 | nahuel | ^^ |
| 10:51 | hdl_laptop1 | sorry |
| 10:51 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop1: there's a problem with the marc_field_007 value builder template that I'm working on |
| 10:52 | it has a rather long JavaScript string that appears to be causing the segfault | |
| 10:52 | (note this is HEAD only, not 3.0.x) | |
| 10:52 | hdl_laptop1 | thx gmcharlt |
| 10:53 | So not a perl problem... | |
| 10:53 | nahuel | my segfault is on 3.2 |
| 10:53 | hmm 3.0.2 | |
| 10:53 | hdl_laptop1, perl shouldn't segfault | |
| 10:53 | raise an error yes, segfault no :)à | |
| 10:54 | gmcharlt | nahuel: alas, it is possible to make the Perl interpreter segfault |
| 10:54 | nahuel | alas ? |
| 10:54 | gmcharlt | alas = unfortunately |
| 10:54 | nahuel | ahah ok:) |
| 10:54 | but it shouldn't :) | |
| 10:55 | time to lunch | |
| 10:55 | happy meal :) | |
| 10:55 | gmcharlt | no, but Perl's not TeX - it has at least a couple bugs :) |
| 10:55 | enjoy :) | |
| 11:59 | hdl_laptop1 | gmcharlt_: bug 2478 patch pushed today ? |
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