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| 12:34 | slef | gmcharlt: I'm just perpetually freaked out at conferences anyway. I get name-checked in sessions when I don't expect it, stuff like that. |
| 13:40 | ebegin | Anybody know if there is a way to keep the item number during the import? It seems that the 952$9 is not working. |
| 13:41 | hdl_laptop | keep the imtenumber can you tell more ? |
| 13:41 | update existing items ? | |
| 13:41 | or add some items with predefined itemnumber ? | |
| 13:42 | ebegin | Yes, adding some item with predefined itemnumber, of course, only for the initial import from another system |
| 13:43 | This would be very helpfull for the migration of the circulation data (holds, loans, ...) | |
| 13:44 | hdl_laptop | That looks quite not really handy since itemnumber is AUTOINCREMENT => it would be incremented on update if you send some id (as far as i can tell) |
| 13:44 | gmcharlt | ebegin: do the items not have unique barcodes? |
| 13:47 | ebegin | gmcharlt, that what I used to do a mapping from the old item number to the new one. Then, when importing the circ data, I replaced the old one by the new one. |
| 13:48 | it worked great, but this is an additional step that could have been avoid if Koha was able to use 952$9 as the itemnumber. | |
| 13:50 | gmcharlt | IMO letting the loader try to set the value of an autoincrement opaque identifier is asking for trouble |
| 13:50 | it's one thing to do this during initial migration | |
| 13:51 | but leaving it in the default loader for ongoing record imports can lead to unecessary unique key violation warnings | |
| 13:52 | ebegin | agree! Maybe this could be an option during the staging phase |
| 13:58 | joetho | good morning, -any thoughts on adding the American kohaconsort-l consortium listserv to the page at http://koha.org/about/get-invo[…]ts/mailing-listsg ??? |
| 14:01 | gmcharlt | joetho: sure - where is the list's home page? |
| 14:10 | ccurry | I have another question about Koha LDAP integration. The LDAP configuration in koha-conf.xml seems to have been accepted (no errors), but the koha borrowers database has not been updated. I've tried logging into Koha's public and admin interfaces using every way of referencing the domain I know of and not referencing it at all, with no luck. Is there a command that needs to be run in... |
| 14:10 | ...order to update the borrowers database? | |
| 14:23 | The documentation I used is here: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]:development:ldap | |
| 14:25 | joetho | Galen- I sent an email to the director in Indiana who evidently started that listserv, and I am hoping he will rise to the bait. |
| 14:26 | gmcharlt | joetho: it wouldn't be strictly required, but a list home page with (preferably) open archives would improve the listing |
| 15:06 | ccurry: both the replicate and update optonis are set, I assume? anything interesting in the Apache error log? | |
| 15:08 | ccurry | Both options are set to 1...didn't think to check the Apache logs...oops. Sorry about all the newbie questions...and thanks for the assistance. I'll have a look. |
| 15:12 | Nothing relevant in the Apache logs, *I think*. I'd find them all at /var/log/apache2, right? | |
| 15:13 | gmcharlt | not necessarily |
| 15:13 | check the config for the vhost you're using for koha | |
| 15:13 | as by default they aren't in /var/log/apache2 | |
| 15:34 | ccurry | I found the koha logs and it looks like my attribute for password doesn't exist in the LDAP database...I couldn't find it specifically referenced in Microsoft docs, so I tried "userPassword"; ugh...I hate Microsoft. I guess I'll see if I can track down the correct password attribute. |
| 15:36 | ebegin | ccurry, <password is=""></password> |
| 15:36 | ccurry | Ok. I'll try that. |
| 15:39 | ebegin: I tried blanking out the is attribute in password and still get "LDAP Auth rejected : invalid password for user 'ccurry'. LDAP error #16: LDAP_NO_SUCH_ATTRIBUTE" & "The request referenced an attribute that does not exist" | |
| 15:40 | ebegin | what is your password? ;) |
| 15:40 | ccurry | ;) |
| 15:41 | ebegin | can you paste your mapping? |
| 15:45 | Sharon | Hi all. Does bug 3160 *change* an item status from LOST to found (blank)? |
| 15:46 | ccurry | ebegin: <password is="userPassword"></password> |
| 15:46 | ebegin | ccurry, I mean the whole mapping, on pastbin |
| 15:46 | gmcharlt | Sharon: the patch doesn't do so explicitly, but may enable the status change |
| 15:47 | Sharon: I assume that you want the status to be changed? | |
| 15:47 | ccurry | Ah. Just a sec. |
| 15:47 | Sharon | gmcharlt yes, we want the status to change - is someone working on that? |
| 15:48 | ebegin | ccurry, on my config, I didn't put the "userPassword". i simply have <password is=""></password> |
| 15:48 | gmcharlt | Sharon: justed tested in the development tip |
| 15:48 | Sharon: it looks like the status change is taking place | |
| 15:48 | ccurry | ebegin: I tried that as well with the same result. |
| 15:49 | Sharon | gmcharlt great - I will report this to our users group in like 5 minutes! |
| 15:49 | ebegin | ccurry, ok. waiting for your mapping though :) |
| 15:49 | Sharon | gmcharlt is it just LOST or also damaged and missing? |
| 15:50 | ccurry | ebegin: http://pastebin.ca/1428881 |
| 15:51 | gmcharlt | Sharon: it wouldn't affect the damaged field |
| 15:51 | Sharon: it does work for any lost status | |
| 15:51 | Sharon: but note that that if works only if there's a loan | |
| 15:52 | if the item just has the lost status, but no loan to a patron | |
| 15:52 | Sharon | gmcharlt OK, good to know. We can report on the damaged items to keep track of them. |
| 15:52 | gmcharlt | the status doesn't currently get changed |
| 15:52 | ebegin | ccurry, can you try samaccountname, all lowercase |
| 15:52 | Sharon | our libraries were assuming that checking in a missing/lost item changed the status from lost. They'll be glad to know that this patch is coming. |
| 15:52 | ccurry | ebegin: sure; will do. |
| 15:53 | ebegin | ccurry, here is my mapping http://pastebin.ca/1428887 |
| 15:54 | Sharon | we may discuss paying for an enhancement that changes a LOST status whenever the barcode is checked in, regardless of how that status was set (via a patron checkout or by a staff member changing it) |
| 15:57 | ccurry | ebegin: tried your mapping; still can't log in as AD user and borrow database not updated. :( |
| 15:57 | root | q |
| 15:57 | quit | |
| 15:57 | ccurry | It must be accessing the LDAP server, right, if it's recognizing the user and returning LDAP errors? |
| 15:58 | ebegin | ccurry, check Joe's answer to your email. |
| 15:58 | jatillaso | hello |
| 15:58 | ccurry | ebegin: thanks for your help. Will do |
| 15:58 | jatillaso | i have a questions about mod_perl and koha |
| 15:59 | anyone could help me? | |
| 15:59 | gmcharlt | jatillaso: what's up? |
| 15:59 | jatillaso | hi gmcharlt |
| 15:59 | i'm trying to run koha with mod_perl | |
| 16:00 | but i have errors sometimes | |
| 16:00 | sometimes it works and sometimes not | |
| 16:00 | this is explained in this link http://perl.apache.org/docs/1.[…]etimes_it_Doesn_t | |
| 16:00 | and it tells that the possible cause is global variables | |
| 16:01 | do you know any tips about it? | |
| 16:01 | how to run koha without problems under mod_perl? | |
| 16:01 | gmcharlt | jatillaso: at best Koha will work with Apache::PerlRun, not Apache::Registry |
| 16:02 | and you may need to set PerlSetVar PerlRunOnce On | |
| 16:02 | ||
| 16:02 | in your Apache config | |
| 16:02 | jatillaso | aha |
| 16:02 | in apache2.conf i put a line like: PerlRunOnce On | |
| 16:02 | and thats it? | |
| 16:03 | or PerlSetVar PerlRunOnce On | |
| 16:04 | what is Apache::Registry ?? | |
| 16:07 | i follow the koha documentation about configure mod_perl, but this is whats happens, sometimes works and sometimes not. Produces a 500 error, and in koha log: undefined subrutine | |
| 16:13 | were developing some koha tools to a library that it will have lot of visits | |
| 16:13 | and mod_perl could help us because it's faster than cgi | |
| 16:14 | gmcharlt, do you configure any koha in mod_perl, and it runs correctly, without my problems? | |
| 16:15 | gmcharlt | gmcharlt: no; some do, but I'm not sure about the current 3.x |
| 16:16 | jatillaso | aha, |
| 16:17 | and what is Apache::Registry ?? | |
| 16:17 | where can i change it? | |
| 16:17 | gmcharlt | Apache::Registry is another way of running Perl scripts under mod_perl |
| 16:17 | but requires a lot more cleanup of the Perl code to completely remove global and package-level variables | |
| 16:18 | jatillaso | where i found Apache::Registry, i replace it with Apache::PerlRun ? |
| 16:19 | gmcharlt | jatillaso: yes |
| 16:20 | jatillaso | thank you, |
| 16:20 | i'll try it | |
| 16:21 | i have to see if that works with it, and tell you | |
| 16:21 | thanks, bye | |
| 16:22 | gmcharlt | you're welcome |
| 16:49 | joetho | sharon: what is the "development tip" you mention? |
| 16:50 | Sharon | joetho what development tip did I mention? |
| 16:50 | joetho | whoops. |
| 16:51 | Galen did, at like 10:48 my time, speaking to you. | |
| 16:51 | gmcharlt | joetho: "development tip" that I mentioned is just shorthand for say that I tested against the most recent version from the public Koha git |
| 16:51 | joetho | I figure he has his own stuff like that. |
| 16:51 | see? | |
| 16:52 | gmcharlt | tip o' the tree |
| 16:52 | joetho | I am working on having my own testbed Koha but it isn't going to happen today or tomorrow. |
| 16:53 | gmcharlt | joetho: sounds like a perfect Memorial Day activity to me |
| 16:53 | Koha, a couple bacon donuts on the grill .. heaven! | |
| 16:54 | Sharon | joetho Liz created a test installation here within the last two weeks and might be willing to help...if you ask nicely |
| 16:55 | pianohacker | Sounds like quite the installfest |
| 17:31 | joetho | sharon: well there's yer answer, rotchair (see 12:17 entry) |
| 17:33 | whoops, I just realized that only shows up live. Sharon volunteered Liz, who almost immediately logged off. heh heh heh | |
| 17:36 | wizzyrea | lol noes he's gone |
| 17:36 | man I walk away for a second and look what happens ^.^ | |
| 17:37 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: you're now QA manager, btw |
| 17:37 | pianohacker | Hehehe |
| 17:37 | wizzyrea | ./facepalm |
| 17:37 | pianohacker | Instead of a plaque, you get this lovely rubber cheesecake |
| 17:37 | wizzyrea | Ooh! |
| 17:37 | Only if it bounces | |
| 17:49 | Sharon | where is there info in the KOha manual about the the Lost status and how it behaves in the catalog? |
| 17:49 | We are having an argument, I mean discussion, about whether setting an item to LOST is behaving different than it did. | |
| 17:51 | Found it in the manual...appendix | |
| 18:54 | pianohacker | By removing <!-- TMPL_IF atdestination --> from lines 129 and 165 of opac-user.tmpl, you get a tab that shows only those holds that are waiting |
| 18:55 | git blame shows that those two lines were last edited in the 3.0 merge | |
| 18:56 | I'm going to try to fix that up and send in a patch, unless someone knows why that tab was broken | |
| 19:03 | gmcharlt | what version of the file are you talking about? there's nothing like that at line 129 of the tempalte |
| 19:04 | pianohacker | Let me check to make sure something odd isn't going on with my git |
| 19:05 | Ah, line numbers were shifted by some edits I'd done. 111 and 147. | |
| 19:05 | Sorry 'bout that | |
| 19:08 | gmcharlt | pianohacker: one question might be why atdestination is never set |
| 19:08 | pianohacker | It's possible it was meant to not show the holds tab if everything was in transit, but why would you want that? |
| 19:08 | *waiting tab | |
| 19:16 | Sharon | we're discussing the fines module - is a re-write in the works? |
| 19:17 | we have 2 of our 20+ libraries interested in co-sponsoring | |
| 19:18 | gmcharlt | Sharon: yes, we're doing some work to clean it for WALDO |
| 19:18 | pianohacker: well, if everything is in transit, nothing is waiting | |
| 19:18 | but explicitly testing for a waiting status is probably clearer | |
| 19:19 | Sharon | gmcharlt is that WALDO work for 3.0 or 3.2? |
| 19:19 | gmcharlt | 3.2 |
| 19:19 | Sharon | ok, thanks |
| 19:19 | BTW, the LOST status is NOT behaving/triggering the way the manual says it should. worth a support request? | |
| 19:20 | gmcharlt | yes |
| 19:20 | Sharon | will do, danke |
| 20:35 | schuster | What are you seeing Sharon dealing with fines? |
| 20:36 | Also are you doing a support request on the 245 b/p issue I saw noted at Keggers? or how should we handled that as that came up again yesterday here. | |
| 20:38 | chris | man who shifted the south pole into wellington brrrr |
| 20:41 | good grief daniel must have been sitting on those patches for a while, or he had an extraordinarily productive day :-) | |
| 20:42 | gmcharlt | heh - they're my patches |
| 20:43 | Dan just tested and signed off on them | |
| 20:43 | chris | ahh |
| 20:45 | wizzyrea | schuster: supposedly the 245 stuff has been fixed? |
| 20:49 | pianohacker | cya all |
| 20:52 | Sharon | Schuster sorry, distractions. we are seeing frustrated librarians dealing with fines b/c a fine is treated as an event, instead of a debit/credit on an account. Each $.05 fine event has to be dealt with in whole, you can't pay partial fines. As I understand the situation. |
| 20:55 | Schuster bug 2771 seems to address the 245 issues, it's assigned to Paul P. | |
| 20:55 | chris | yeah that definitely needs to be fixed, you used to be able to, on the pay screen you used to be able to select the fines to pay OR enter amount at the bottom |
| 20:55 | HLT will want that back too | |
| 20:55 | Sharon | Chris that's what we surmised from a past discussion on the list and I was told WALDO is sponsoring some work on fines, too. |
| 20:56 | chris | yay |
| 20:56 | Sharon | I'm too lazy to go find the rfc and see exactly what they're fixing |
| 20:57 | chris | i will try to look later, unfortunately at the moment i have to go write jquery to make comments on blogs expand and collapse |
| 20:57 | Sharon | programmers work is never done |
| 21:00 | here's another spec for partial payment of fines for ICAN | |
| 21:12 | chris | http://akoha.com/people/ranginui/ |
| 21:12 | named after A Koha | |
| 21:12 | how could you not play :) | |
| 21:13 | right thats my good deed for the day done, back to work | |
| 21:14 | wizzyrea | chris: still no wee cormack? |
| 21:14 | chris | not yet |
| 21:16 | wizzyrea | oof, mama's probably getting impatient |
| 21:17 | chris | well he isnt due til june 6 ... but yeah hes hanging in there longer than his older brother did |
| 21:18 | kahurangi is impatient to 'play cars' which is apparently what is going to happen when he is born | |
| 21:26 | atz | chris: the "directed payment" was never properly implemented |
| 21:26 | ebegin | chris: akoha was developped here in montreal :) |
| 21:27 | atz | it needs to be implemented as a foreign key constraint referencing the same table |
| 21:27 | chris | *nod* |
| 21:27 | atz | or we need different tables for fines and credits/payments |
| 21:27 | chris | it certainly wasnt perfect, but hlt were happy with it for 8 years, so they will want it back .. fixed and working properly :) |
| 21:28 | that was originally what the accountoffsets was for | |
| 21:28 | (payments) | |
| 21:28 | but it all got munged up about 5 different times :) | |
| 21:29 | atz | yeah, i've been complaining about fines since I started on koha |
| 21:29 | chris | i think now we have a much better handle on how different libraries want it to work too, so can do a decent job on it this time round |
| 21:29 | ebegin: cool :) | |
| 21:31 | atz: i think i even have a work request from hlt about filed yesterday | |
| 21:31 | today im not on koha work tho, but tomorrow i will try to go through and figure out whats being worked on and by whom and how i can help :) | |
| 21:46 | ebegin | chris: the grooveshark interface is awesome! I like the way we can queue song at the bottom of the screen |
| 21:47 | wizzyrea | oh man, grooveshark is the shizzle |
| 21:47 | ok, I'm giving up and going home. ttyl everyone | |
| 21:47 | chris | yeah grooveshark does a lot right |
| 21:47 | wizzyrea | (and good song, chris ;) |
| 21:47 | chris | cya wizzyrea |
| 21:53 | ebegin | Good evening everyone! |
| 22:03 | chris | cya ebegin |
| 22:59 | Jo | Morning all |
| 23:00 | chris | hi jo |
| 23:01 | Jo | Morena |
| 23:01 | how are you today | |
| 23:02 | (and i'm glad bub didn't come last night .. would have been a cold one) | |
| 23:02 | Hey, does anyone know if I can use koha 3.0 to produce a run of patron barcode numbers? | |
| 23:05 | chris | hmm dont know about that one |
| 00:08 | jmr_ | jo do you want to print the barcodes in barcode font? |
| 00:09 | Jo | hiya |
| 00:10 | i have to make some temporary patron cards, so would like a barcode and human readable number printed above or below as well. | |
| 00:10 | gmcharlt | Jo: it can print patron cards |
| 00:10 | access via same interface as spine labels | |
| 00:10 | Jo | i have a online generator which does them 1 at a time (producing gif files) |
| 00:10 | oh cool - i'll have a look. thanks. | |
| 00:13 | jmr_ | you could also creat a report and download the csv file, and further manipulate it to your hearts content in word or excel |
| 00:14 | gmcharlt | yup |
| 00:15 | Jo | cool. thanks for your help gents |
| 04:51 | Amit | hi chris, mason, brendan |
| 04:51 | good morning #koha | |
| 05:09 | brendan_ | heya amit |
| 05:09 | how you doing? | |
| 05:14 | Amit | everything is fine |
| 05:14 | doing some data migration | |
| 05:15 | brendan: u? | |
| 05:15 | brendan_ | getting ready to go to bed |
| 05:16 | what are you migrating data from ? | |
| 05:23 | Amit | from access to marc |
| 05:23 | hi | |
| 05:23 | hdl | |
| 05:23 | brendan | cool -- good luck amit |
| 05:24 | ebegin | Hi amit. Having fun with Marc Edit I guess |
| 05:24 | hi brendan. | |
| 05:24 | brendan | hi ebegin |
| 05:24 | Amit | hi ebegin |
| 05:24 | brendan:http://kohav3demo.osslabs.biz/ | |
| 05:24 | check | |
| 05:24 | yes using marc edit ebegin | |
| 05:25 | brendan | I think this is the first hello on IRC... good to finally get a chance to say hi -- ebegin |
| 05:25 | ebegin | I followed some of you IRC episode about the situation in Santa Barbara, but I stayed quiet :) |
| 05:26 | Everything is under control now? | |
| 05:26 | brendan | yes -- I'm on the road now - traveling |
| 05:27 | the fire was scary -- but also kind of exciting to watch at the same time | |
| 05:28 | Amit | brendan: on 5th june i m going to delhi |
| 05:28 | ebegin | Was it the first time that it came that close? |
| 05:28 | amit, where are you now? | |
| 05:28 | brendan | cool -- Amit you should send me some curry powder! |
| 05:28 | Amit | right now i m working in www.osslabs.biz bangalore India |
| 05:29 | brendan: which type curry powder? | |
| 05:29 | chicken curry | |
| 05:29 | brendan | First time it came that close for me -- but there has been three fires in the last 8 months... I don't think there is anything left to burn |
| 05:30 | Amit -- some hot curry powder.... or some marble from agra ! | |
| 05:30 | Amit | hmm |
| 05:30 | Taj Mahal marble | |
| 05:31 | brendan | I still have a little bit of hot curry powder left from my last trip to delhi... |
| 05:31 | I can make some -- ok tasting -- sag dal | |
| 05:31 | Amit | hmm |
| 05:31 | brendan | not sure if I said that correctly -- the sag dal part that is |
| 05:31 | Amit | i love razma rice |
| 05:32 | sag dal yes i know | |
| 05:32 | brendan | I also like to have rita |
| 05:33 | ebegin -- kind of late there for you? | |
| 05:33 | ebegin | yep, 1h33am |
| 05:33 | brendan | heh |
| 05:33 | Amit | rita means? brendan |
| 05:33 | brendan | yogurt and vegetables |
| 05:34 | not sure about the spelling | |
| 05:34 | ebegin | I'm looking for a good project management software :) |
| 05:34 | Amit | ok |
| 05:34 | brendan | I'd say hire someone with OCD disorder |
| 05:34 | Amit | brendan; r u like which type of indian food |
| 05:35 | brendan | veg |
| 05:35 | ebegin | Amit, I see that osslabs offers support for dotProject. How good is this software? (do you know it) |
| 05:36 | Amit | ebegin: not as good as koha |
| 05:36 | ebegin | :) |
| 05:36 | are you using it internally? | |
| 05:41 | Amit | no ebgin |
| 05:41 | sory ebegin | |
| 05:42 | ebegin | no problem. :) |
| 05:47 | brendan | goodnight #koha -- I'm off to bed |
| 07:34 | chris | evening |
| 07:35 | thd | chris: good evening |
| 07:36 | chris | hiya thd, hows things? |
| 07:37 | thd | chris: slef has implied yesterday on the koha list in the context of the new website that kados and tina are not reading the koha list. |
| 07:37 | things are more or less OK as long as I stop volunteering to fix Vista | |
| 07:38 | chris | ahh yeah, always a good thing to not volunteer |
| 07:39 | im sure they are reading, i just dont think slef has been seeing much action wrt the website | |
| 07:40 | thd | I have the volunteering spirit but discovered that grub does not play well with multiple Windows installations on the same machine. |
| 07:40 | EasyBCD solved the Vista and XP boot problem where Grub failed | |
| 07:41 | Are kados and tina responding to website issues off the public Koha lists? | |
| 07:46 | chris | i dont know, not that ive seen |
| 07:47 | thd | I am supposing that LibLime is going to put forward a Koha foundation in much the same way: join it with their rules or be left out. |
| 07:50 | chris | i hope not, but i fear that maybe yes |
| 07:53 | thd | BibLibre have not said much about the new website on the public list despite the suggestion out of ignorance from kados that koha-fr.org should simply be redirected to koha.org . |
| 07:54 | chris | Biblibre have been very busy, but i think they have finished meetings and conferences for a while so they might be more vocal |
| 08:27 | Hui_Nan_ | hi all! |
| 08:27 | chris | hi Hui_Nan_ |
| 08:27 | Hui_Nan_ | how much time does it takes for patch to be accepted? |
| 08:27 | chris | gmcharlt asked me to tell you to check your mailer |
| 08:28 | because we didnt see that patch arrive at the patcheskoha.org mailing list |
|
| 08:28 | Hui_Nan_ | ok |
| 08:35 | chris | http://lists.koha.org/pipermai[…]y/date.html#start |
| 08:35 | in case i missed seeing it | |
| 08:36 | Hui_Nan_ | no, I'm not listed |
| 08:37 | it seems to me that git send-email does some kind of local delivery despite the smtp server is configured in ~/.gitconfig | |
| 08:39 | so I sent patches using --smtp-server option %-) | |
| 08:40 | wow! i'm there! ;-) | |
| 08:41 | chris | :) |
| 11:35 | gmcharlt | good morning |
| 11:44 | Hui_Nan_ | evening :-) |
| 11:45 | gmcharlt | Hui_Nan_: thanks for checking your mailer :) |
| 11:45 | Hui_Nan_ | always welcome |
| 11:48 | gmcharlt | Hui_Nan_: I'm going to cherry-pick the Russian and Ukrainian installer SQL from 3.0.x into HEAD |
| 11:50 | Hui_Nan_ | good |
| 11:54 | gmcharlt | Hui_Nan_: you're subscribed to koha-translate, right? |
| 11:54 | Hui_Nan_ | not yet |
| 11:56 | actually i would like to see how to implement Koha at my library - fix bugs, add features which are required | |
| 11:56 | translation is the last task | |
| 11:56 | gmcharlt | ah, sounds like koha-devel is more for you |
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