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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:12 | jwagner | gmcharlt, online? |
| 12:12 | gmcharlt | jwagner: yes |
| 12:12 | jwagner | I'm running into several very minor bug fix issues -- template tweaks, etc. Wanted to confirm before I start doing patches that you'd prefer one patch per issue rather than a rollup of multiple unrelated fixes? |
| 12:13 | gmcharlt | jwagner: correct |
| 12:13 | jwagner: typo corrections can be consolidated, however | |
| 12:14 | jwagner | OK, thanks. I'll probably start sending some as I work through my list. Did the syspref patch make it through unscathed? First time I tried that squashing business... |
| 12:14 | gmcharlt | as long as that kind of patch contains only typo fixes |
| 12:14 | jwagner: will be testing it later today | |
| 12:14 | jwagner | Some are typos, some are table column width, etc. etc. I'll just keep them separate. |
| 12:51 | nahuel | hi americans :) |
| 12:51 | gmcharlt | hi frenchies :) |
| 12:51 | have a good flight back, nahuel? | |
| 12:51 | nahuel | yep, but toooooo loooong :'( |
| 12:52 | My legs were ... weak | |
| 12:52 | what about you galen ? | |
| 12:53 | owen | Hi nahuel, gmcharlt |
| 12:53 | nahuel | hi owen |
| 12:53 | owen | nahuel: Just don't complain about your long flight to chris ;) |
| 12:54 | nahuel | why ? |
| 12:54 | owen | Because his was twice as long! |
| 12:55 | nahuel | are you sure ? |
| 12:55 | We had 17 hours | |
| 12:55 | and i think chris' flight was 11 hours long | |
| 12:55 | no ? | |
| 12:55 | perhaps i'm wrong | |
| 12:56 | owen | Back to Marseilles? |
| 12:56 | nahuel | yes |
| 12:56 | -s | |
| 12:56 | :) | |
| 12:56 | owen | Sorry--Americanization. |
| 12:56 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marseilles,_Illinois | |
| 12:58 | nahuel | ahahah |
| 12:58 | like Paris :p | |
| 13:01 | gmcharlt | nahuel: flight OK - not long, just arrived 23:30 that night |
| 13:01 | bit past my bedtime :) | |
| 13:01 | hi owen | |
| 13:05 | nahuel | well, you will be able to sleep to 11am next day |
| 13:06 | gmcharlt | heh, if only |
| 13:07 | nahuel | perhaps saturday :) |
| 13:07 | gmcharlt | saturdays++ |
| 13:07 | nahuel | week-end++ :) |
| 13:43 | jwagner | owen, online? |
| 13:43 | owen | Yes |
| 13:45 | jwagner | For your nifty jquery trick, if I want to change the wording for the Add to Your Cart, it starts <a class="addtocart" in the container div. How to set up the syntax? |
| 13:45 | owen | I've always shied away from trying to change the Cart terminology because it appears in so many places |
| 13:46 | But since it's js-based, I guess there's no reason you couldn't manage it if you were thorough | |
| 13:46 | What file are you looking at? | |
| 13:47 | jwagner | Right now I'm just looking at the OPAC -- the sidebar that has Place Hold, Print, Add to Your Cart etc. |
| 13:48 | owen | You start with the "$(document).ready(function(){" of course |
| 13:48 | jwagner | We've done some rewording in other places, but this one got overlooked, I think. |
| 13:49 | owen | Then you're targeting an "a" element by class: $("a.addtocart").html("Your new label"); |
| 13:49 | It's easiest to target by elements by class and id: $("elem.class") or $("elem#id") | |
| 13:50 | Then you get more complicated with other attributes: $("elem[attribute='value']") | |
| 13:52 | jwagner | Hmmm. $("a.addtocart").html("Add to Your Bookbag"); didn't work by itself. Looks like I need to get more complex. The div is "container" add something like #container div before the a.addtocart? |
| 13:56 | Or do I remember you saying you could just look for a text string independent of classes, labels, etc.? That would work. | |
| 13:59 | owen | I'm perplexed...targeting a.addtocart should work... |
| 14:01 | jwagner | *Smacks forehead -- I must have had a typo. Just tried it again & it works now. Thanks, sorry for the wild goose chase. |
| 14:03 | hdl_laptop | jwagner: be sure taht you make something that shall be manageable for translations if you happen to do something for a translated site. |
| 14:04 | jwagner | hdl_laptop, this is a single language site now, but we're looking at adding another one later, so that's a good point. How best to manage that with a jquery, I wonder? Add another code block? I haven't seen translated pages -- they use the same labels, divs, etc., right? |
| 14:05 | owen | Your custom javascript will not work with a multi-language site |
| 14:06 | Not unless you build something into the custom javascript to recognize which language it's working under | |
| 14:06 | Either that, or built a separate line of javascript to look for each specific language string in all languages | |
| 14:06 | But that sounds awfully cumbersome. | |
| 14:06 | jwagner | Hmmm. OK, something to keep in mind for the future. But it works fine right now for my single-language sites. |
| 14:09 | At the very top of the page, it starts with <html lang="en" -- can you build an if statement into the jquery? Something like if lang="en" do this etc.? | |
| 14:12 | owen | Could be, but I don't know offhand that jquery can access the html tag |
| 14:13 | jwagner | I'm prowling around the jquery web site, not having much luck searching for things. Do you know if an if statement is possible? |
| 14:13 | owen | It's just javascript, so anything javascript is possible |
| 14:14 | soul9 | it can most probably access the html tag |
| 14:15 | owen | Yeah, alert($("html").attr("lang")); works |
| 14:16 | hdl_laptop | owen: you can also put the js in the template structure |
| 14:17 | atz | jwagner: jquery's approach emphasizes selectors over traditional conditionals |
| 14:17 | hdl_laptop | as soon as you use _() around to be translated strings, it would be embedded into generated po file |
| 14:17 | owen | hdl_laptop: of course, but we're talking about customizations that are site-specific. Additions to the opacuserjs system pref |
| 14:17 | atz | so instead of saying if (my_element.attribute("class") == "class1") { ... } |
| 14:18 | you do: $(".class1").(...) | |
| 14:18 | it's incredibly more efficient | |
| 14:25 | jwagner | I'm trying variations on if $("html.attr.lang").is("en") $("a.addtocart").html("enAdd to Your Bookbag"); -- no luck so far. Can you see what I'm doing wrong? |
| 14:29 | danny | i have tested it but I think it would be something like $('html').attr('lang','en') |
| 14:29 | i haven't tested it, I mean | |
| 14:29 | owen | That would set the lang attribute to en |
| 14:30 | danny | ah right, owen is right |
| 14:30 | I need more caffeine | |
| 14:33 | atz | jwagner: in your version, it makes .attr look like a class |
| 14:33 | owen | $(document).ready(function(){ |
| 14:33 | if($("html").attr("lang") == "en"){ | |
| 14:33 | // do one thing | |
| 14:33 | } else { | |
| 14:33 | // do another | |
| 14:33 | } | |
| 14:33 | }); | |
| 14:43 | jwagner | Like if ($("html").attr("lang") == "en") {$("a.addtocart").html("en2Add to Your Bookbag")} ); ? That one still isn't working. |
| 14:53 | danny | jwagner: just tested and it works for me, just make sure that it takes place in the document.ready line that owen listed |
| 14:53 | if ($("html").attr("lang") == "en") { | |
| 14:53 | $("a.addtocart").html("en2Add to Your Bookbag") | |
| 14:53 | } | |
| 14:57 | jwagner | Got it -- had a misplaced paren. Here's what works: $(document).ready(function(){if ($("html").attr("lang") == "en") {$("a.addtocart").html("en2Add to Your Bookbag")} ; |
| 14:57 | }); | |
| 15:02 | Tested an if variation, & the following also works properly: | |
| 15:02 | $(document).ready(function(){ | |
| 15:02 | if ($("html").attr("lang") == "en") {$("a.addtocart").html("Add to Your Bookbag")} else{$("a.addtocart").html("frAdd to Your Bookbag")} ; | |
| 15:02 | }); | |
| 15:03 | Thanks much to all! Better to build in this kind of check from the beginning before I go hog-wild adding these things to sites. | |
| 15:05 | gmcharlt | jwagner, owen: http://recurser.com/articles/2[…]anslation-plugin/ |
| 15:06 | another way of doing it | |
| 15:35 | owen: I'm thinking of it as enabling that | |
| 15:36 | make it access an external dictionary | |
| 15:36 | rather than dumping lots of if $lang_code = 'foo' in the JS | |
| 15:37 | owen | But if there were a means of applying custom local translations to the templates themselves we wouldn't have to resort to using jquery to manipulate text client-side |
| 15:38 | liz_nekls | yes, I like the idea of the local translation |
| 16:14 | eiro | FYI: koha for macports (http://www.tinybox.net/content[…]te-koha-macports) |
| 16:17 | gmcharlt | eiro++ |
| 16:17 | eiro | thx |
| 16:22 | brendan | Good morning #koha |
| 16:22 | gmcharlt | hi brendan |
| 16:23 | brendan | hey gmcharlt - I've got some elk defrosting for tonight's dinner - yummy |
| 16:23 | gmcharlt | cool |
| 16:24 | I was a bit disappointed the the elk chop I had - didn't taste all that different from beef | |
| 16:24 | brendan | if you are ever out this way for work or something let me know - I'll save you a piece |
| 16:24 | gmcharlt | thx |
| 16:24 | difference between farm-raised vs. wild elk, perhaps? | |
| 16:24 | brendan | I agree |
| 16:25 | liz_nekls | We have a restaurant here in Lawrence that serves Buffalo, Elk, Lamb, and Pork burgers. I agree about the elk, doesn't taste that much different from beef. Buffalo/Bison, however, tastes kind of like shoes. |
| 16:25 | to me | |
| 16:26 | brendan | oh no -- shoes aren't too appetizing |
| 16:26 | gmcharlt | liz_nekls: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg9nVYo0VOs , perhaps? |
| 16:27 | liz_nekls | LOL... yea, like that. |
| 16:27 | brendan | spellcheck_suggest/make_spellcheck_suggest.pl ? that used to work in 2.9 ? |
| 16:28 | gmcharlt | brendan: yes |
| 16:28 | brendan | what needs to be done to update that ? |
| 16:28 | is it even worth trying to update that? or be better to design a new way | |
| 16:28 | gmcharlt | design a new way, IMO |
| 16:29 | especially in light of Zebra's fuzzy searching | |
| 16:29 | brendan | that's the problem that I see... since you should always get something - through fuzzy |
| 16:30 | ok -- when I've got a little time - I will send a message to devel for comments and suggestions and see what develops -- maybe I can create sometime - to develop something | |
| 16:30 | gmcharlt | one way to rethink it is as a way of adding synonyms rather than deal with typos per se |
| 16:31 | without duplicating what you have via cross-references in the authority file | |
| 16:31 | brendan | would it be worth looking into the google SOAP api ? |
| 16:32 | or would one have to pay for that ? | |
| 16:32 | or slow things down even more.. | |
| 16:33 | gmcharlt | good idea in principle, if you could cache - but Google's terms of use would have to be looked at very carefully |
| 16:34 | Sharon | Report question - For the Most-circulated Items "Top Lists" report, what is the SQL behind it (nothing shows up when I copy/paste into Excel). I need to know what exactly it's counting (/cgi-bin/koha/reports/cat_issues_top.pl) |
| 16:35 | brendan | does anybody know what the prog/famfamfam/silk/spellcheck.png is there for ? |
| 16:38 | gmcharlt | Sharon: the most relevant bit: http://pastebin.com/d37700bd1 |
| 16:39 | Sharon | thank you |
| 16:39 | gmcharlt | a bunch of additional conditions can be added to that query based on the filters you select |
| 16:40 | brendan: nothing at all AFAICT, but presumably was added as part of spellcheck support at some point | |
| 17:16 | frederic | hi |
| 17:16 | gmcharlt | hi frederic |
| 17:18 | pianohacker | hello |
| 17:27 | frederic | I am trying to catch up all info about koha conf... |
| 18:15 | chris | hmm i think im still on texas time |
| 18:16 | gmcharlt | hi chris |
| 18:17 | chris | hi gmcharlt |
| 18:21 | gmcharlt | I see your survived your flight |
| 18:23 | jwagner | Chris, why are you online? Go back to bed :-) |
| 18:25 | chris | hehe yeah i woke up at 4am .. managed to get a few more hours sleep in, but then i was just lying there so decided to get up |
| 18:25 | gmcharlt: yep, the flights i dont mind, its the airports that arent fun | |
| 18:25 | 17 hours in the air, and about 10 in airports | |
| 18:26 | jwagner | Better you than me. I'd love to visit that part of the world, but I can't take that long on a plane. Let alone that long in the airport.... |
| 18:29 | chris | on the 13 hour flight, i got 3 seats to myself, so that was pretty awesome |
| 18:29 | not many ppl flying from the US to NZ at the moment, plane was quite empty | |
| 18:31 | gmcharlt | means lots of room to spread out |
| 18:32 | chris | yep |
| 19:16 | pianohacker | i.e., new template module and my crazy custom format for the new sysprefs editor |
| 19:17 | liz_nekls | well that would be smart |
| 19:18 | pianohacker | What do you guys think of using Template::Toolkit to process the preference tab files? They're processed separately from the main template anyway, so no includes would be involved |
| 19:18 | And if we move to TT as our main template module, I'll have already worked around the translation problem | |
| 19:18 | gmcharlt | go for it |
| 19:23 | joetho | wants to fly to paree |
| 19:24 | owen | liz: It's the wrong season to fly to NZ. Do paree first with joetho. |
| 19:24 | liz | don't really need to identify where I'm from anymore |
| 19:24 | true | |
| 19:25 | actually... | |
| 19:25 | wizzyrea | even better |
| 19:25 | gmcharlt | is that a sigh of satisfaction I just head? |
| 19:25 | hea*r*d | |
| 19:26 | wizzyrea | lol yea, like putting on your pajamas after a hard day |
| 19:26 | joetho | I am working on a list of useful URLs for my koha consortium users |
| 19:26 | wizzyrea | www.nexpresslibrary.org >.> |
| 19:26 | j/k | |
| 19:26 | joetho | I was thinking youtube |
| 19:27 | wizzyrea | always with the smackdown |
| 19:30 | pianohacker | atz: around? |
| 19:30 | atz | ? |
| 19:31 | pianohacker | I remember you being mildly annoyed at our current patched-together translation system |
| 19:31 | I'm thinking of using Template::Toolkit for the preference files; did you have any thoughts on where you'd like the translation system to go? | |
| 19:31 | Since I'll have to at the very least extend it to support TT | |
| 19:31 | gmcharlt | same place as the rest of the PO files |
| 19:32 | difference is that you can use own (or preferably, CPAN) code to generate the PO files | |
| 19:33 | pianohacker | I'm trying to find a module right now |
| 19:33 | I was just curious if atz had any ideas on improving the translation system overall | |
| 19:33 | jwagner | Does anyone know the XSLT stuff? |
| 19:33 | gmcharlt | jwagner: what's your question? |
| 19:34 | jwagner | XSLT doesn't obey sysprefs. The values I'm looking at are defined in the perl, but how to get XSLT to read them? |
| 19:34 | atz | pianohacker: unfortunately, the only thing I would look for is in the *long* term to get a tree parser that can handle H:T:P |
| 19:35 | pianohacker | Yeah |
| 19:35 | gmcharlt | jwagner: can pass arbitrary variables in the call to the XSLT processor, that in turn can be tested for in the stylesheet |
| 19:35 | at moment, no sysprefs are passed | |
| 19:35 | pianohacker | It looks like Locale::Maketext does support TT, which I'm looking at |
| 19:36 | jwagner | gmcharlt, any hints on how? I don't know anything about XSLT except what I've been fumbling with today. |
| 19:38 | gmcharlt | jwagner: very briefly, calls to $xslt->transform($source) can take a second parameter, a hash of variables to pass to the stylesheet |
| 19:38 | e.g., $xslt->transform($source, opacsyspref1 => C4::Context->preference('opacsyspref1'), opacsyspref2 => ...) | |
| 19:38 | then in stylesheet, can test for <xslt:if select='oapcsyspref1'> ... | |
| 19:39 | jwagner | AHA! Thanks much. Now if I could just figure out the other stuff. (Bangs head against wall....) |
| 19:42 | pianohacker | I'm beginning to think the author of Locale::Maketext enjoys pointing and laughing and saying "Haha! You don't know anything about i18n!" |
| 19:42 | chris | right time for me to catch the bus to work |
| 19:43 | most of you people will be home from work by the time i get to work, so good evening to them :) | |
| 19:43 | gmcharlt | :) |
| 19:43 | joetho | at least we all have jobs to go to. I am thankful for mine. |
| 19:44 | most of the time. | |
| 19:48 | anyone know about a bib merge function that *used* to exist in koha, but dropped off a few versions ago? | |
| 19:49 | chris | it was never officially released afaik |
| 19:49 | joetho | hey don't be late for the bus! |
| 19:49 | chris | ok i really need to go, will talk later |
| 19:50 | joetho | work hard and have fun |
| 20:25 | pianohacker | joetho: Do you mean transferring items from one bib to another? |
| 20:26 | Sharon | pianohacker We're hoping to have a way to do side-by-side comparison of possible duplicate Bibs and pick the best (or find a way to merge the best of both into a new Bib) |
| 20:27 | a bib maintenance function to help remove dups without losing item/transaction data | |
| 20:28 | pianohacker | Ahh |
| 20:32 | wizzyrea | is the zebra_rebuild usually instantaneous? |
| 20:34 | this probably sounds like a dumb question. It kind of is, b/c I was expecting zebra to chug for a while and when it didn't I was... surprised | |
| 20:37 | chris | right in at work now |
| 20:38 | pianohacker | If you're just updating stuff from zebraqueue, it can be pretty fast |
| 20:38 | If you're worried, you can run it with -v | |
| 20:43 | wizzyrea | ah, verbose? |
| 20:43 | pianohacker | yup |
| 20:43 | wizzyrea | tyvm |
| 20:43 | pianohacker | np |
| 20:44 | wizzyrea | (actually, I usually do it nozebra, is why i'm a bit muddled by zebra indexing) |
| 20:44 | pianohacker | zebra does tend to generate muddles |
| 20:45 | chris | wow, after spending 10 days using my hp mini, a dual 20" monitor set up is heaven |
| 20:45 | gmcharlt | heh |
| 20:45 | pianohacker | I don't doubt it. Are dual setups common at your workplace? I might need to move to NZ |
| 20:45 | joetho | paino: yes, the side-by-side comparison thing on merging bibs. |
| 20:50 | chris | right i officially start paid koha work from monday yippee!! |
| 20:51 | wizzyrea | WOO! |
| 20:51 | pianohacker | chris: Yay, congratulations! |
| 20:51 | chris | pianohacker: dual or triple, no one at my work has a single monitor that i know of |
| 20:51 | pianohacker | chris: very nice |
| 20:51 | joetho | whoops, I meant piano. Congrats Chris. Welcome to the sweatshop! |
| 20:51 | chris | hehe joetho, welcome back you mean :-) |
| 20:51 | joetho | yes |
| 20:52 | we should all pay you. | |
| 20:52 | chris | pianohacker is our child labourer |
| 20:52 | :P | |
| 20:52 | pianohacker | Speaking of which. |
| 20:52 | joetho | chris' paypal address? |
| 20:52 | chris | have fun, say hi to your mum and that I appreciate very much the effort she put in bringing you down to the conference |
| 20:53 | pianohacker | I will do that, thanks! |
| 20:53 | joetho | yes. Kudos to mom. |
| 20:53 | wizzyrea | so, nub git question... if I want to get my local install up to the same patchlevel as our hosted install, how would I do that? |
| 20:53 | chris | joetho: hehe |
| 20:53 | wizzyrea | i know there are a lot of ins, lot of outs there |
| 20:54 | chris | joetho: there are people much more deserving than me |
| 20:54 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: check with rch - it would be a matter of cloning your site's repo |
| 20:55 | joetho | what if I want to get my install up to the patchlevel of nekls? |
| 20:55 | chris | heh |
| 20:55 | gmcharlt | joetho: same answer |
| 20:55 | joetho | and rch is... |
| 20:55 | gmcharlt | Ryan Higgins |
| 20:56 | joetho | ah. |
| 20:56 | wizzyrea | lol... oi, I don't really want to bother him |
| 20:56 | joetho | I do. |
| 20:56 | in a nice way. | |
| 20:57 | chris | maybe paypal him :) |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea | lulz |
| 21:00 | joetho | I think we paypalled his boss already. |
| 21:00 | wizzyrea | community... love... happiness... |
| 21:01 | chris | :) |
| 21:01 | joetho | but of course. |
| 21:02 | chris | joetho: im sure I met you at the conference, ... but im blanking, where are you from? |
| 21:03 | joetho | Southeast kansas, we spoke a couple of times. Medium height, trim grey beard, strikingly handsome, noble carriage. |
| 21:04 | chris | ahh but of course :) |
| 21:06 | wizzyrea | hey, at least you missed out on having plastic food thrown at you (chris) |
| 21:07 | most memorable non-conference center moment | |
| 21:09 | chris | heh |
| 21:10 | we were actually at the same restaurant at the time i think | |
| 21:10 | was it at saltgrass? | |
| 21:10 | wizzyrea | hehe yea |
| 21:10 | with their epic desserts | |
| 21:10 | chris | is there anything not epic in texas? |
| 21:10 | :) | |
| 21:10 | wizzyrea | ooh, truth |
| 21:11 | I couldn't help myself... I kept thinking "everything really *is* bigger in texas!" | |
| 21:11 | chris | hehe |
| 21:11 | wizzyrea | because it's TRUE! |
| 21:11 | chris | yup |
| 21:12 | http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/3446690611/ | |
| 21:13 | im currently taunting my workmates with food photos | |
| 21:32 | wizzyrea | mmm onion rings |
| 21:33 | gmcharlt | chris: another committer |
| 21:33 | chris | woot |
| 21:33 | ill update the docs | |
| 21:34 | gmcharlt | I have a slight fear that we'll find out that somebody we don't know about got a patch accepted in 2006 |
| 21:34 | causing lots of shifting ;) | |
| 21:34 | chris | hehe yeah |
| 21:36 | wizzyrea | so ok... talking about using bugzilla for "cataloging" enhancements |
| 21:36 | what kind of things are *most* important to include | |
| 21:36 | i'm guessing more detail = better | |
| 21:37 | chris | as much information as possible |
| 21:37 | wizzyrea | we were going to start putting ours on |
| 21:37 | should we just do it how we like it and ask for suggestions? | |
| 21:37 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: just enter the bugs - the suggestions will come naturally |
| 21:38 | wizzyrea | lol, I suppose that's true |
| 21:38 | ok. Well get ready. You may have unleashed a beast here | |
| 21:39 | gmcharlt | just make sure to search for existing relevant bugs first |
| 21:44 | chris | hmm this one is gonna mean a shuffle i think if i use authored date |
| 21:44 | gmcharlt | better go with pushed? |
| 21:44 | chris | yeah will do |
| 21:48 | Christopher Hyde is the 83rd committer to have a patch pushed into the main repository | |
| 21:48 | how's that? | |
| 22:01 | wizzyrea | lata peps |
| 22:24 | chris | ahh espresso machine, how i missed you |
| 22:25 | sent a patch for the latest developer | |
| 22:25 | but it will be stuck in moderation | |
| 22:25 | ryan_ | was that a haiku? |
| 22:26 | chris | hehe not intentionally |
| 22:33 | eiro | balvenie doublewood <3 |
| 22:42 | 'night koha people | |
| 23:34 | chris | hey richard and brendan |
| 23:34 | richard | hiya |
| 23:34 | brendan | have fun chris |
| 23:44 | pianohacker | chris, when you get back: minor typo in the latest history addition |
| 23:49 | chris | oh? |
| 23:50 | pianohacker | repository developer |
| 23:50 | chris | ahh there is a tab in there |
| 23:50 | 3 columns in the file now | |
| 23:51 | date, description, and tags | |
| 23:51 | tab separated | |
| 23:51 | so that its easy for ppl to throw it into a db to manipulate/search | |
| 23:51 | pianohacker | Yup. Thanks, missed that |
| 00:03 | chris | automated web testing meeting == use selenium |
| 00:10 | pianohacker | I'd like to hear how that works for your company, it could be quite useful for Koha |
| 00:10 | chris | the QA team apparently have been using it quite a bit |
| 00:11 | so i'll let you know how it works out | |
| 00:13 | pianohacker | Cool |
| 01:19 | 'night all | |
| 01:27 | davi | What is the version more stable, |
| 01:27 | koha-3.00.01-stable.tar.gz or koha-3.00.01.005.tar.gz ? | |
| 01:27 | chris | stable |
| 01:28 | davi | thanks |
| 01:28 | chris | by 3 minutes :-) |
| 01:29 | davi | So, 3.00.01.005 will be the stable one in 3 minutes? |
| 01:29 | chris | no, -stable was released 3 minutes after 005 |
| 01:29 | davi | ah, it is fresh! |
| 01:30 | chris | well, few months old now, but fresher than 005 :-) |
| 01:30 | davi | What is the repository where I can see the history? |
| 01:56 | Just FYI, I have got "production mode - trapped fatal error" following guide http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]uide_ubuntu_hardy | |
| 01:57 | chris | whats the error log tell ya? |
| 01:57 | davi | apache log? |
| 01:57 | chris | my guess is a module has been missed |
| 01:57 | yeah the apache error log for the koha site | |
| 01:58 | if you can find the error, we can probably fix it and update the wiki to save others :) | |
| 02:00 | davi | sure |
| 02:00 | I am trying to look for some messages, but I just see normal messages | |
| 02:00 | vps101.leals.com:8080 192.168.1.2 - - [24/Apr/2009:01:59:23 +0000] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 302 - "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.0.7) Gecko/2009032813 Iceweasel/3.0.6 (Debian-3.0.6-1)" | |
| 02:00 | vps101.leals.com:8080 192.168.1.2 - - [24/Apr/2009:01:59:24 +0000] "GET /cgi-bin/koha/installer/install.pl HTTP/1.1" 200 232 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.0.7) Gecko/2009032813 Iceweasel/3.0.6 (Debian-3.0.6-1)" | |
| 02:01 | chris | hmm that looks like the access log |
| 02:01 | not the error one | |
| 02:03 | davi | /var/log/apache2# tail -f error.log |
| 02:04 | chris | check you koha-httpd.conf |
| 02:04 | davi | It does not show nothing while I GET http://192.168.1.101:8080/ |
| 02:04 | chris | and see where it is set to log |
| 02:04 | davi | and get redirected to http://192.168.1.101:8080/cgi-[…]taller/install.pl |
| 02:04 | chris | yeah the koha-httpd.conf is probably telling it to log to another place |
| 02:04 | davi | ok, let me look for it |
| 02:06 | Which one of these? | |
| 02:06 | /etc/koha/koha-httpd.conf | |
| 02:07 | /build/koha-3.00.00/blib/KOHA_CONF_DIR/koha-httpd.conf | |
| 02:07 | /build/koha-3.00.00/etc/koha-httpd.conf | |
| 02:07 | chris | the first one |
| 02:07 | davi | ok |
| 02:08 | [error] [client 192.168.1.2] [Fri Apr 24 02:07:53 2009] mainpage.pl: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Table 'koha.language_descriptions' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Languages.pm line 339. | |
| 02:09 | chris | ah ha |
| 02:10 | davi | How to create koha.language_descriptions? |
| 02:10 | chris | it should have been done by in the install as far as im aware |
| 02:11 | davi | I think I remember I had similar or same problem while installing 3.0.0 RC |
| 02:12 | I think I finally created that table directly in the database or with a script, but I do not remember how | |
| 02:13 | Maybe even just creating it could work? | |
| 02:14 | chris | hmm nope that wouldnt work, lemme check and see if this on the mailing list |
| 02:14 | davi | ok |
| 02:14 | chris | is that the last error in the file? |
| 02:14 | davi | yes |
| 02:15 | There are lots and lots of such errors | |
| 02:15 | mainpage.pl: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Table 'koha.language_descriptions' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Languages.pm line 333. | |
| 02:15 | mainpage.pl: DBD::mysql::st fetchrow_hashref failed: fetch() without execute() at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Languages.pm line 334. | |
| 02:15 | chris | nothing about CGI::Session::ID |
| 02:15 | ? | |
| 02:16 | davi | let me check if such package is installed |
| 02:17 | chris | http://article.gmane.org/gmane[…]mp.misc.koha/9955 |
| 02:17 | davi | Such package was not installed. So maybe it should be added to the Wiki page |
| 02:18 | if it is actually needed. | |
| 02:18 | chris | no i was just wondering if there was anything about that in the error log |
| 02:18 | because that email to the list seems to suggest that that is the problem | |
| 02:20 | davi | I was mistaken, the last error lines are: |
| 02:20 | [Fri Apr 24 02:19:12 2009] [error] [client 192.168.1.2] [Fri Apr 24 02:19:12 2009] install.pl: Use of uninitialized value $debug_level in string eq at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 45. | |
| 02:20 | [Fri Apr 24 02:19:12 2009] [error] [client 192.168.1.2] [Fri Apr 24 02:19:12 2009] install.pl: Can't call method "id" on an undefined value at InstallAuth.pm line 278. | |
| 02:21 | chris | yep that looks like it |
| 02:21 | davi | Is there solution? |
| 02:21 | chris | you might need to install CGI::Session::Serialize::yaml |
| 02:21 | http://article.gmane.org/gmane[…]mp.misc.koha/9955 it worked for this person | |
| 02:21 | davi | thanks |
| 02:24 | It works now, thanks | |
| 02:24 | chris | yay :) |
| 02:24 | maybe we should link to that message | |
| 02:28 | davi | Should we add to one of the almost infinite wiki pages the CGI::Session::Serialize::yaml package to the list of packages to install? |
| 02:29 | chris | you are running hardy right? |
| 02:29 | i think it works out of the box for intrepid .. so maybe add it to the hardy page | |
| 02:30 | davi | I am running Debian 5.0 stable (lenny) |
| 02:31 | chris | hmm, i thought it was fixed there too, guess not .. does it list that in the INSTALL.debian file ? |
| 02:32 | davi | let me look for the INSTALL.debian file |
| 02:32 | chris | in git there is an INSTALL.debian-lenny file |
| 02:32 | too, but im not sure that came in the 3.0.1 tarball | |
| 02:33 | davi | It seems all is right. It reads: |
| 02:33 | 1.6.2 Recent versions of CGI::Session have caused some issues for users; | |
| 02:33 | as of this release date, we suggest downloading the CGI::Session::serialize::yaml | |
| 02:33 | tarball direct from CPAN and install it directly rather than using the cpan command | |
| 02:34 | chris | cool |
| 02:34 | moo | hi guys, anybody got a time to answer a question on changing username / passwords |
| 02:35 | chris | yep |
| 02:36 | moo | thanks chris, i've just started adminnig a box with Koha installed, when they set it up they used a specific username as admin but want a generic one... do I change a borrowers password or.. what do I need to do ? |
| 02:36 | chris | yeah, make a borrower, make it category staff or something similair, set the password, and then set that borrowers' permissions |
| 02:37 | https://sites.google.com/a/lib[…]ing-staff-patrons | |
| 02:38 | https://sites.google.com/a/lib[…]trons-permissions | |
| 02:38 | hopefully will help | |
| 02:38 | moo | hey thanks for the quick help :) i'll check it out, looks like it should do the trick :) |
| 02:39 | chris | no problem |
| 02:39 | where in the world are you from moo? | |
| 02:41 | davi | For the record, I am from Spain |
| 02:42 | chris | nz for me |
| 02:43 | must be late in spain davi | |
| 02:43 | moo | brb, gotta make call. |
| 02:44 | davi | yep, I must go to bed |
| 02:44 | chris | sleep well |
| 02:47 | davi | thanks, night |
| 02:47 | same there | |
| 02:48 | moo | well good meeting you lot, thanks for your help chris, i gotta dash :) |
| 03:13 | Amit | hi chris, brendan, mason |
| 03:13 | good morning | |
| 03:13 | chris | hi amit |
| 03:13 | Amit | chris: R u interested in IPL |
| 03:13 | cricket matches | |
| 03:13 | chris | i have just got back from the US, so i havent seen any cricket news for a 10 days |
| 03:14 | is it going well? | |
| 03:16 | Amit | yes |
| 03:16 | chris | cool |
| 03:16 | which team do you support? | |
| 03:16 | Amit | delhi daredevils |
| 03:16 | this is my team | |
| 03:16 | because i m from Delhi | |
| 03:17 | delhi is my birth placed | |
| 03:17 | chris | ahh cool |
| 03:17 | Amit | delhi team is too strong |
| 03:17 | yesterday delhi vs chennai match it too interesting match | |
| 03:17 | dhoni vs sehwag | |
| 03:18 | chris | ahh |
| 03:19 | Amit | today match kingsX11 vs bangalore royal challenge |
| 03:47 | chris | when does it start? |
| 03:49 | Amit | its start 7:30 IST |
| 03:49 | on SONY MAX | |
| 03:50 | Rayder, Ross is in bangalore team | |
| 03:50 | chris | cool, lemme see if we get it on tv here |
| 03:50 | Amit | k |
| 03:50 | Daniel is on delhi team | |
| 03:51 | chris | just highlights |
| 06:21 | evening | |
| 06:51 | eiro | hello |
| 06:52 | Amit | eiro: hello |
| 08:13 | hi paul | |
| 08:36 | chris | 1hi paul_p and eiro |
| 08:36 | paul_p | hi chris |
| 08:37 | hope everything OK after your flight back to NZ | |
| 08:37 | chris | yep trying to get back on nz time, but otherwise ok |
| 08:37 | paul_p | for us, it was a old-slyte B747. quite uncomfortable ! |
| 08:37 | there's a real big diff between them and more moderne planes. | |
| 08:38 | chris | yep |
| 08:38 | paul_p | just to compare : no room for my legs due to the size (width) of the sits & no personal screen, so, no films in french at all (only en+spa+russian+japanese) |
| 08:38 | + ugly food (but I bet it's NWA, not B747 ;-) ) | |
| 08:39 | chris | hehe yeah, i was on a 737 to la |
| 08:39 | then a 777 to nz | |
| 10:50 | gmcharlt | paul_p: you took NWA over the Atlantic? my condolences |
| 10:50 | paul_p | hi gmcharlt. |
| 10:50 | In fact, I bought a AF/KLM ticket, but it was NWA, except for Marseille => Amsterdam. | |
| 10:51 | the plane Dallas => detroit was a new one. Very comfortable. But ridiculous service : 1 drink, and a very very very small cookie. (Note it was 12:30PM) | |
| 10:52 | same for Detroit => Dallas when coming. | |
| 10:52 | (was 7PM) | |
| 10:53 | gmcharlt | alas, that's pretty much the level of service to expect nowadays |
| 10:54 | paul_p | yep. On continental travels with AF, the service is quite good though |
| 11:09 | elwell | yeah, there's no comparison between the (lack of) service on the time I flew NWA to the US compared with air NZ or Virgin |
| 11:15 | gmcharlt | it's slightly odd when a simple view source crashes firefox |
| 11:16 | repeatedly | |
| 11:27 | hafid | hi |
| 11:28 | can i have help a want activate a sip Server in koha | |
| 11:31 | gmcharlt | hafid: have you checked out that section of the manual |
| 11:31 | https://sites.google.com/a/lib[…]/sip2-integration |
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