← Previous day | Today | Next day → | Search | Index
All times shown according to UTC.
| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 13:58 | jwagner | nick jwagner jwagner_away |
| 15:21 | Is someone around who's familiar with the famfamfam/silk/*.png images? | |
| 16:56 | nick | hello |
| 16:57 | managed to install koha 3 under ubuntu 8 | |
| 16:57 | all working fine | |
| 16:57 | i can't add a patron though | |
| 16:57 | under Patrons | |
| 16:57 | "+ New" does not work | |
| 16:58 | JoeTho | Hi Nick |
| 16:59 | nick | hello JoeTho |
| 17:00 | JoeTho | I'm not sure if I can help you with this- have you used an older version before? |
| 17:00 | nick | first time koha |
| 17:00 | a looged into 127.0.1.1:8080 | |
| 17:00 | JoeTho | I would troubleshoot by seeing if you can alter anything at all. |
| 17:01 | nick | under Patrons --> + New |
| 17:01 | does not work | |
| 17:01 | managed to add Acquisitions | |
| 17:01 | i can add a "List" | |
| 17:02 | JoeTho | Hmm. what happens when you try to add a patron +New? anything at all? |
| 17:02 | nick | nth happens |
| 17:03 | it seems the button is broken | |
| 17:03 | do i have to do sth before adding a Patron? | |
| 17:03 | maybe i am missing sth | |
| 17:04 | i am trying to follow those instructions: http://www.blazingmoon.org/gui[…]k3-on-u810-8.html | |
| 17:05 | gmcharlt | nick: that button uses JavaScript and the YUI library - do you have JavaScript disabled or no net access from the Koha you've installed Koha on? |
| 17:06 | JoeTho | gmcharlt: conference call in about an hour, correct? |
| 17:06 | nick | under acquisitions the buttons do work |
| 17:06 | same as list | |
| 17:07 | just under Patrons | |
| 17:08 | under Acquisitions --> + Vendor and + Order work just fine | |
| 17:08 | maybe, i am missing sth | |
| 17:09 | i noticed under Administration | |
| 17:09 | Patron Categories | |
| 17:09 | gmcharlt | JoeTho: yes - with Dan Sweeney |
| 17:09 | nick | do i need do add one first so i can add Patrons then? |
| 17:09 | jdavidb | nick: I betcha that's it. |
| 17:10 | gmcharlt | indeed, if you don't have any categories defined yet, it won't work |
| 17:10 | nick | ok, i will try it, thank u |
| 17:11 | can i get here any guideness on how to start with koha? | |
| 17:12 | i should have added a Patron Category in order to add a Patron | |
| 17:13 | following only one site for details is not enough :S | |
| 17:13 | someone has to look for more than two sites so he can manage | |
| 17:14 | jdavidb and gmcharlt | |
| 17:14 | u were right guys, thank u | |
| 17:40 | Sharon | Has anyone else tested bug/enhancement 2908 and found that the email cart (basket) works, but emailing a list (shelf) doesn't? |
| 17:56 | hdl_laptop | nick: have you entered any categories for patrons ? |
| 17:58 | gmcharlt | Sharon: emailing lists works for me in HEAD |
| 17:59 | how is it failing for you? is the email form not appearing, or are emails not being sent? | |
| 17:59 | Sharon | Gmcharlt I'll send a support request about it, then in case is a problem with our installation |
| 18:06 | jwagner | Sharon, I just tested sending a list, and it came through fine here, on a system I built from koha.org last Saturday. |
| 18:07 | Sharon | Thanks, I'm alerting our vendor |
| 18:16 | gmcharlt Emails are not being sent, instead of a confirmation form I just get a blank entry form again | |
| 18:19 | Liz is going to look into it, too. | |
| 18:25 | JoeTho | Ours has never worked. |
| 18:26 | Let me clarify: emailing a list has never worked. Koha itself just started to quit working in the last 36 hours or so. | |
| 18:46 | liz_nekls | ours is totally working |
| 18:47 | was a problem with the template (I know you're all shocked to hear this) | |
| 18:47 | (the send list/cart/shelf thing) | |
| 18:48 | and the koha installer is a whole lot better documented than it used to be. Kudos to whoever did that. | |
| 18:56 | gmcharlt | liz_nekls: so emailing lists is working for you now? |
| 18:59 | liz_nekls | gmcharlt: yes, I believe so. I was at lunch when they decided to pursue it. :/ |
| 18:59 | i'm like, DOH, lemme take a look! | |
| 19:23 | Sharon | That angry icon is directed at me, the impulsive one... |
| 19:30 | pianohacker | Is there anyone currently online interested in the new sysprefs editor? I have a demo up |
| 19:32 | http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/[…]nces.pl?tab=admin (some tabs have not yet been finished) | |
| 19:32 | Ach, http://weaverhome.rlogin.org:8[…]nces.pl?tab=admin | |
| 19:32 | gmcharlt | you forget to mention the worm you wrote that distributes Koha *everywhere*? ;) |
| 19:34 | pianohacker: when you modify a value, then modify it again, another "(modified)" gets added underneath | |
| 19:34 | danny | pianohacker, i am definitely interested in it, do you have anywhere that I can "git" it from to try? |
| 19:35 | pianohacker | gmcharlt: Yes, I can see that happening. Lemme fix that really quick |
| 19:35 | danny: My git repository is currently not public. I will be sending a patch to the mailing list within a week or so, tho | |
| 19:36 | gmcharlt | pianohacker: "Save all" button should just be "save" - otherwise user might think that all settings modified on the page will be saved, which doesn't appear to be the case |
| 19:36 | pianohacker | gmcharlt: Save is disabled for the public demo |
| 19:37 | gmcharlt | but it really is "save all"? in that case, a single save all button (or one at top, and one at bottom) would be clearer |
| 19:38 | danny | oh and that reminds me, does anyone know if the acq changes that biblibre is working on are available on a public git? |
| 19:38 | gmcharlt | or rather, match the common pattern for a preferences page |
| 19:38 | danny: they're in a git repo, but I'm not sure how public - you can ask paul_p or hdl | |
| 19:38 | danny | ok |
| 19:39 | pianohacker | gmcharlt: That would be more consistent; the main reasoning behind the change was convenience, but I suppose that can wait until I've gotten AJAX and per-preference saving working. |
| 19:41 | liz_nekls | pianohacker: very, very good ideas all around. |
| 19:44 | Sharon | pianohacker much easier to understand the sysprefs using this 'normal' language |
| 19:44 | pianohacker | liz_nekls, Sharon: glad you like it |
| 19:49 | JoeTho | piano: so... is the only difference with the indep. branch settings just being able to modify bib/items/patrons in other libraries? I thought there was more than that, like how holds and transfers work. |
| 19:49 | I also like leaving out the link on each line (as compared to the current module). | |
| 19:50 | gmcharlt | JoeTho: yes, IndependantBranches also affects circ |
| 19:51 | pianohacker | IndependantBranches actually affects quite a lot, still trying to figure out the best description |
| 19:52 | JoeTho | the old wording as pretty minimal. |
| 19:52 | *was | |
| 19:54 | how about: "enable/disable *independent branch settings* " ...and make *that* a popup that explains this, in more detail than you have room for in a single line on the prefs page? | |
| 19:56 | pianohacker | Hmm |
| 19:57 | Either that, or a "More Info" link that expanded within that space. | |
| 19:58 | gmcharlt | +1 |
| 19:58 | liz_nekls | I like "More Info" |
| 19:59 | nick | if i configure koha to save pdf documents for example |
| 19:59 | liz_nekls | in fact, more info is probably a good idea for lots of settings that |
| 19:59 | have complicated repercussions | |
| 19:59 | nick | can i retrieve them and read them whenever i want? |
| 19:59 | pianohacker | In fact, in line with the current system, textareas behave this way: http://weaverhome.rlogin.org:8[…]l?tab=cataloguing |
| 20:00 | ISBD or NoZebraIndexes | |
| 20:00 | nick: How do you mean saving PDFs? Exporting various reports as PDFs? | |
| 20:01 | nick | the library i want to create |
| 20:01 | is a collection of documents | |
| 20:01 | a collection of PDFs | |
| 20:01 | can i save them in the library? | |
| 20:02 | pianohacker | Ahh, okay. Koha currently does not support storing PDFs inside itself. You would have to link to them in the 856u MARC field. |
| 20:02 | And store them either on a webserver or within a program such as Kete | |
| 20:03 | nick | ok, good. thanks for directing me |
| 20:03 | my second question, | |
| 20:04 | using the library, i can search for documents and as a result i will get a link, right? | |
| 20:04 | liz_nekls | nick: it would be neat if koha did that but... would kind of turn it into a CMS and... well I'm not going to put a value judgement on that but would be a big change |
| 20:04 | pianohacker | nick: Do you mean having that linked url show up in search results? |
| 20:05 | I know it will show up on the detail page for a given document, but not sure about the search results page | |
| 20:05 | nick | i want to know if i will get a url in the search results? |
| 20:06 | JoeTho | pianacker: I just took a quick tour, and the "more info" idea could be used in all sorts of places throughout the prefs. Tons. |
| 20:06 | nick | liz_nekls: what are those CMS? |
| 20:07 | pianohacker | JoeTho: Ehh, true. I'll probably send in the first patch with More Info where it's absolutely necessary, however |
| 20:07 | nick | content management system? |
| 20:07 | pianohacker | nick: yes |
| 20:07 | JoeTho | pianohacker: even better: make 'em link to the general corresponding area of the docs, so if the docs change you don't need to alter your code. |
| 20:07 | nick | so maybe guys you can tell me what is the best for my case |
| 20:07 | i need to save documents in a database | |
| 20:08 | JoeTho | you are a rocketscientist, jesse. |
| 20:08 | nick | i need an interface for this database where i can search for documents |
| 20:08 | and have the ability to read them | |
| 20:09 | pianohacker | I think that would actually be fairly easy, since nengard already has a page in the manual for each tab. Good idea, let me send an email to her asking about that |
| 20:09 | nick | do i need koha or a cms system? |
| 20:10 | liz_nekls | You want to store PDF documents online, but be able to MARC catalog them? |
| 20:10 | er, AND = but | |
| 20:11 | re: nick | |
| 20:11 | nick | i want to store PDF documents in a database and have the ability to search the database for documents by keywords and read them |
| 20:12 | liz_nekls | my instinct says you probably want a CMS |
| 20:12 | drupal, joomla | |
| 20:12 | if you only care about keywords | |
| 20:12 | nick | thought that Koha would be the solution |
| 20:12 | actually yes | |
| 20:13 | i care about little stuff, like keywords | |
| 20:13 | those drupal and joomla are open source? | |
| 20:13 | work under ubuntu? | |
| 20:15 | liz_nekls | should |
| 20:15 | pianohacker | nick: Yes to both |
| 20:15 | nick | which one do u suggest to begin with? |
| 20:16 | liz_nekls | well, if you had historical documents that needed to be properly cataloged using some flavor of MARC, and had a separate place to keep them to link to, then Koha would be great for you |
| 20:16 | nick | more documented maybe? |
| 20:16 | liz_nekls: that is a great idea | |
| 20:16 | i would keep that in mind | |
| 20:17 | liz_nekls | idk, both joomla and drupal have pretty active communities |
| 20:18 | I'd have a hard time ranking them as which is "better" | |
| 20:18 | it's mostly preference | |
| 20:19 | nick | as long they work on ubuntu 8.04 |
| 20:19 | i already have installed koha successfully | |
| 20:19 | liz_nekls | (which is no small feat on ubuntu, kudos to you) |
| 20:20 | in my experience both will work on any LAMP config | |
| 20:20 | nick | i tried koha on redhat 5 |
| 20:21 | it was a disaster | |
| 20:21 | liz_nekls | *shudder* |
| 20:21 | nick | once i moved to ubuntu, everything was much easier |
| 20:21 | pianohacker | I generally try to shy away from rpm-based distros in general :) |
| 20:21 | nick | so i am gonna stick to ubuntu |
| 20:21 | liz_nekls | probably wise :) |
| 20:21 | nick | my experience with linux is back to suse 9 |
| 20:21 | liz_nekls | debian is the most common distro for koha |
| 20:22 | (which of course ubuntu is based upon) | |
| 20:22 | nick | i am familiar to rpms as redhat |
| 20:22 | but it's not worth it | |
| 20:22 | liz_nekls | (I luvs me some apt-get) |
| 20:22 | JoeTho | there is a pretty good ubuntu tootorial for koha |
| 20:23 | liz_nekls | yea, that documentation is getting better. Would have really helped me a year or so ago. ^.^ |
| 20:23 | nick | the tutorial is good yeah |
| 20:23 | didn't deal with CMS before | |
| 20:24 | hope i can manage | |
| 20:26 | liz_nekls | if you can do koha, you can do joomla or drupal |
| 20:27 | er, if you can manage koha, you can manage joomla or drupal (my opinion of course) | |
| 20:27 | nick | PDF or word documents can be saved in drupal and joomla, right? |
| 20:28 | pianohacker | nick: Almost surely, but it would be good to check |
| 20:28 | liz_nekls | yep. |
| 20:28 | honestly I'd just download them both and fiddle around with them | |
| 20:30 | nick | i downloaded drupal |
| 20:30 | i will start with it first | |
| 20:31 | liz_nekls | :) sounds like a plan |
| 20:34 | nick | thanks for everything |
| 20:36 | bye for now | |
| 21:07 | joetho2 | whoops |
| 21:08 | pianohacker | joetho2: Were you at KohaCon? I think we might have met, but I don't know your real name |
| 21:08 | liz_nekls | pianohacker: yea, he threw plastic food at you |
| 21:09 | pianohacker | Ahh, of course. Suddenly, my memory becomes quite vivid |
| 21:14 | joetho2 | joetho2 and joetho are one and the same, just trying out my client prefs. And I didn't throw food, not really. Rubber food doesn't count. |
| 21:16 | liz_nekls | Weren't you the one assaulting the rubber food at Fruit King as well? |
| 23:10 | chris | back |
| 23:10 | richard | back in nz? |
| 23:10 | chris | yep |
| 23:11 | richard | wb :) |
| 23:11 | chris | thanks |
| 23:18 | pianohacker | Hello, glad you made it home safely |
| 23:19 | chris | thanks, and you too :) |
| 23:19 | brendan | hey chris -- glad you made it ok |
| 23:20 | tired or wide awake? | |
| 23:20 | chris | thanks brendan, you still in new mexico? |
| 23:20 | tired by trying to stay awake | |
| 23:20 | brendan | no I made it home early this moring |
| 23:20 | but i was able to get some good new mexician food the other day! | |
| 23:20 | worth the drive - it was so good. | |
| 23:21 | chris | hehe excellent |
| 23:28 | pianohacker | Useful tool for keeping track of the various Koha developer locales: http://www.timeanddate.com/wor[…]s=805,176,136,264 |
| 23:29 | chris | ohh very cool |
| 23:36 | pianohacker | How long was your flight? |
| 23:37 | chris | 3 hours from dallas to la, then 13 from la to auckland, then 1 from auckland to wellington |
| 23:38 | pianohacker | So 18 hours of flying plus delays. You manage to get any sleep? |
| 23:38 | chris | yeah i got to the airport in dallas pretty early too, got a ride with david, so went with all the others |
| 23:39 | got a couple of hours on the flight | |
| 23:47 | jwagner | gmcharlt, online? |
| 23:57 | chris | hi Jane_Wagner |
| 23:57 | bye | |
| 00:30 | hmm different isp brendan? | |
| 00:44 | brendan | I switch from the office to home... |
| 00:44 | different isp's | |
| 00:44 | but I should be getting screen set up on my server's sometime soon | |
| 00:45 | chris | sweet :) |
| 00:45 | screen rules | |
| 02:53 | gah its only 3pm and im falling asleep | |
| 03:05 | brendan | chris time for some of the peanut butter I know you snuck back with you ;) |
| 03:06 | chris | heh |
| 03:21 | brendan: http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]p?g2_itemId=69664 | |
| 03:25 | brendan | thanks chris -- sonja and I enjoyed! |
| 03:25 | got a decent action shot | |
| 03:26 | chris | im just putting up the videos now |
| 03:26 | yeah my camera is not good in the low light | |
| 03:26 | but a couple turned out ok | |
| 03:29 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]ture=channel_page | |
| 03:30 | brendan | oh man that was so bad on the ears... I've never heard take me out to the ball game on bag pipes before -- I wonder why? |
| 03:30 | chris | hehe yeah, it wasnt pleasant |
| 03:30 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]ture=channel_page | |
| 03:31 | brendan | the fireworks look pretty cool |
| 03:33 | chris | yeah turned out suprising well |
| 03:33 | it was a good night | |
| 03:33 | if i lived in the US, id be a baseball fan im sure | |
| 03:35 | brendan | :) |
| 03:39 | SelfishMan | ugh...bag pipes |
| 03:48 | chris | SelfishMan: i had a lot of fun hanging out with the montanians (is that even a word) during the conference |
| 03:49 | SelfishMan | Well that's cool |
| 03:49 | I think we prefer the term "rednecks" though | |
| 03:50 | I might get kicked out of the state for saying that | |
| 03:50 | chris | hehe |
| 04:09 | pianohacker | 'allo again |
| 04:10 | chris | heya pianohacker |
| 04:10 | pianohacker | hey |
| 04:10 | What's work having you do today? | |
| 04:11 | chris | take the day off |
| 04:11 | because anything i type today, will be garbage :) | |
| 04:11 | pianohacker | Heh, no kidding |
| 04:12 | Flying even short distances is exhausting; I know I felt better after a six-hour drive yesterday than I feel after most three-hour flights | |
| 04:13 | chris | the flights i dont mind, its the airports i hate |
| 04:13 | pianohacker | Are they as bad in NZ? |
| 04:14 | chris | no, you are allowed to make a joke in nz, and they wont beat you up or shoot you :) |
| 04:14 | pianohacker | Hah! An improvement over the US, then |
| 04:14 | chris | althought having said that, everyone was a lot more pleasant than the last time i was flying in the US |
| 04:15 | i even got a few smiles | |
| 04:15 | pianohacker | Paranoia's probably descended a tad. When were you last over here? |
| 04:15 | chris | and dfw had free internet and power |
| 04:15 | 2006 | |
| 04:15 | actually no, 2007 | |
| 04:15 | pianohacker | Ah, okay |
| 04:16 | So not as noticable as say, 2002 | |
| 04:16 | chris | yeah, i still get fingerprinted and photo's taken |
| 04:16 | there was none of that pre 2002 | |
| 04:18 | the big coincidence was that on my flight from dallas, was a woman who was moving to nz | |
| 04:19 | so at least i had someone to hang out with in LA | |
| 04:20 | pianohacker | Heh, yeah |
| 04:20 | Always nice to find a pocket of familiarity | |
| 04:23 | chris | yep |
| 04:28 | pianohacker: you saw the photos of you on flickr? | |
| 04:28 | heh, | |
| 04:50 | pianohacker | I really need to spend some time setting up irssi/screen. If not on a server, at least on my machine |
| 04:50 | Pidgin is starting to get tiresome | |
| 04:51 | chris: Yes, I did, thanks | |
| 04:51 | chris | cool |
| 06:41 | elwell | piano^I damn not here |
| 06:41 | irssi+screen ftw as they say. | |
| 07:35 | chris | hi nahuel |
| 07:37 | nahuel | hey ! |
| 07:37 | chris, your plane was great ? | |
| 07:37 | chris | it was ok :) how was yours? |
| 07:38 | nahuel | too long |
| 07:38 | and can't sleep | |
| 07:39 | and too much controled | |
| 07:39 | every time : the shoes, the bag, the laptop, the papers | |
| 07:39 | i prefer the train :) | |
| 07:47 | eiro | hello kohackers |
| 07:53 | chris | hi paul and eiro |
| 07:53 | elwell | are there any more slides avalable than those on http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]conferenceprogram ? |
| 07:54 | chris | the conference organising people are putting them all up and linking them in, should be all up there along with the video in the next few days |
| 07:54 | elwell | cool ta |
| 07:58 | chris | nahuel: http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]p?g2_itemId=69678 |
| 07:59 | nahuel | ahah |
| 07:59 | beer time ! | |
| 07:59 | base ball time ! | |
| 08:00 | chris | hehe |
| 08:04 | nahuel | i'll put my photos online tonight |
| 08:04 | chris | cool |
← Previous day | Today | Next day → | Search | Index