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| Time | Nick | Message | 
|---|---|---|
| 12:20 | Hui_Nan_ | it should be because of the empty permissions table | 
| 12:29 | where should I add extra privileges for user's privileges? | |
| 12:29 | it should be some place where I associate 'edit_news' with 'superlibrarian' for example | |
| 12:40 | looks like installation bug | |
| 12:40 | kf | go to borrower page and click on more | 
| 12:41 | Hui_Nan_ | yes, I've been there | 
| 12:41 | there is only 'superlibrarian' and alike | |
| 12:41 | kf | superlibrarian is a general permission for all and everything | 
| 12:41 | Hui_Nan_ | http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]anularpermissions | 
| 12:42 | gmcharlt | Hui_Nan_: granular permissions currently only for tools | 
| 12:42 | kf | which koha-version do u use? | 
| 12:42 | Hui_Nan_ | says, that there should be several records in зукьшыышщты ефиду | 
| 12:42 | kf | is granular permissions On in system preferences? | 
| 12:42 | gmcharlt | to enable display, should turn on GranularPermissions system preference, as kf says | 
| 12:43 | Hui_Nan_ | yep, I added this variable as yes|no type, and turned it on | 
| 12:43 | still no granular permissions | |
| 12:43 | kf | it should have been there | 
| 12:43 | gmcharlt | you had to add it? what version are you running? | 
| 12:43 | kf | if you had to add it, perhaps something is wrong | 
| 12:43 | Hui_Nan_ | 3.0001005 | 
| 12:44 | and news appeared in tools when I added a corresponding record to permissions | |
| 12:45 | kf | GranularPermissions is located on Admin tag in system preferences and should be there after installation | 
| 12:45 | normally there is no need to add things | |
| 12:46 | Hui_Nan_ | oh yes, it was there and it was "On" | 
| 12:47 | I believe that UI has to know somehow what kind of granular permissions are available | |
| 12:47 | kf | UI changes automatically when turning on | 
| 12:48 | gives you more options than before | |
| 12:48 | Hui_Nan_ | since the corresponding table was empty, I had no granular permissions at UI | 
| 12:48 | kf | tools is really detailed then | 
| 12:48 | hm | |
| 12:48 | perhaps something is missing in your installation | |
| 12:48 | Hui_Nan_ | yep! I'm right | 
| 12:49 | after I added a row for 'edit_news' UI displayed corresponding permission | |
| 12:49 | kf | ok | 
| 12:49 | Hui_Nan_ | this is an installation bug | 
| 12:49 | kf | but it should not be empty | 
| 12:52 | perhaps you can use this to get it working: http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]658533d95912b5d6f | |
| 12:52 | hm seems not up to date, so perhaps not | |
| 12:53 | dont listen to me g | |
| 12:55 | Hui_Nan_ | no problem | 
| 12:55 | just a little bit of handwork to fix a problem | |
| 12:56 | after an hour of studying the code | |
| 12:56 | ;-))) | |
| 12:57 | kf | you should file a bug | 
| 12:58 | i use 3.00.01 to, but we did a patch, so I did not see this problem | |
| 13:14 | Hui_Nan_ | to file, or not to file? - that is the question :-) | 
| 13:14 | kf, do you mean 'upgrade' by patch or what? | |
| 13:15 | gmcharlt | Hui_Nan_: do you have time to wipe your database and rerun the installer to see if problem can be reproduced? | 
| 13:15 | kf | yes, sorry upgrade / update | 
| 13:26 | Hui_Nan_ | gmcharlt: I would have, but what is the reason to do it? | 
| 13:26 | installation was smooth enough | |
| 13:27 | gmcharlt | Hui_Nan_: well, the question is whether userpermissions.sql was loaded at all, or if it somehow got skipped | 
| 13:27 | not a big deal | |
| 13:29 | Hui_Nan_ | well, unfortunately I did not record the output of make, thus reinstallation would be useful | 
| 13:30 | however, as far as I remember, the database is filled during the web-setup | |
| 13:30 | gmcharlt | that's correct | 
| 13:31 | Hui_Nan_ | ok, I'll leave it for tomorrow | 
| 13:32 | I still can't see how reinstallation could help | |
| 13:32 | I should analyse the web-installation code | |
| 13:32 | gmcharlt | it could help determine if it always skips loading that SQL file | 
| 13:32 | Hui_Nan_ | %-) | 
| 13:33 | gmcharlt | or if it was just accidentally unselected when you went through the last of SQL files to load | 
| 13:33 | that's all | |
| 13:33 | Hui_Nan_ | ok | 
| 13:33 | gmcharlt | actually, the FrameworksLoaded syspref should tell you which SQL files had been loaded | 
| 13:34 | Hui_Nan_ | Oh, that page, which suggests some authority dictionaries and such a stuff? | 
| 13:34 | gmcharlt | yes | 
| 13:34 | kf | leaving for easter holidays :) bye #koha | 
| 13:34 | Hui_Nan_ | very well, there's something to do | 
| 13:35 | could anyone give me a clue, an OPAC template for which language is loaded by default | |
| 13:35 | ? | |
| 13:36 | gmcharlt | not sure what you mean - English is the default if you don't install any translations | 
| 13:36 | Hui_Nan_ | russian is the very first in the list of languages at my iceweasel 3 | 
| 13:37 | I define some news for russian but English is shown | |
| 13:37 | gmcharlt | checkout the opaclanguage syspref | 
| 13:38 | Hui_Nan_ | opaclanguages="ru-RU,uk-UA,en,fr-FR,de-DE" | 
| 13:38 | and news are posted to "OPAC (ru-RU)" | |
| 13:39 | however only "OPAC (en)" are displayed :-( | |
| 13:42 | looks like another bug %-) | |
| 13:42 | bchurch | /join #liblime | 
| 13:43 | gmcharlt | bchurch: need to do that on freenode, not the irc.citylink.co.nz IRC server | 
| 13:44 | bchurch | ok | 
| 13:44 | Hui_Nan_ | not so easy from behind a socks proxy | 
| 13:44 | what's IP? | |
| 13:46 | gmcharlt | Hui_Nan_: do what? | 
| 13:46 | Hui_Nan_ | No IP address found for the domain 'irc.freenode.net' %-((( | 
| 13:46 | gmcharlt | ah - the #liblime channel is for LibLime staff | 
| 13:46 | freenode does have #kohanews | |
| 13:46 | which is a bot-driven feed of commits, bug reports, and so forth | |
| 13:47 | Hui_Nan_ | I'm confused then | 
| 13:47 | gmcharlt | bchurch and I work for LibLime, that's the missing piece | 
| 13:47 | Hui_Nan_ | >bchurch< /join #liblime --- invitation for whom? | 
| 13:47 | ok | |
| 14:50 | atz | owen: you aren't by chance related to a Pat Leonard in Columbus, are you? | 
| 14:50 | owen | Nope. My family is originally from Kansas | 
| 19:13 | gmcharlt_ | chris: seriously? thought they only existed in nursery rhymes ;) | 
| 19:13 | chris | heck no | 
| 19:13 | every year :) | |
| 19:14 | ive actually been eating them the last week :) | |
| 19:14 | tho today is the day you are supposed to eat them | |
| 19:14 | gmcharlt_ | what's the occassion? | 
| 19:15 | chris | good friday | 
| 19:15 | gmcharlt | ah | 
| 19:15 | chris | and chocolate eggs on sunday | 
| 19:16 | http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU0904/S00054.htm | |
| 19:17 | The bakery chain expect to bake over 250,000 fresh buns on ‘Bun Thursday’, a baking term to describe the day before Easter Friday and one of the busiest days on the baking calendar. | |
| 19:17 | gmcharlt | it's important to support the local economy | 
| 19:17 | "new coffee-infused Hot Cross Buns" | |
| 19:17 | sounds good to me | |
| 19:18 | chris | heh | 
| 19:18 | everything is closed today, so theres not much else to do but eat :) | |
| 19:32 | http://www.newdelhinews.net/story/487886 | |
| 19:38 | liz-nekls | ok I am having a seriously dumb moment... I want to suppress the display of the Call Number (see result number 2 of this search: http://nekls.test.kohalibrary.[…]ch.pl?q=twilight) | 
| 19:38 | but I am looking at the xslt templates and I don't see it in there? | |
| 19:39 | (feel like I'm taking crazy pills) | |
| 19:40 | supposedly comes from the 050ab and 090ab marc fields | |
| 19:47 | gmcharlt | liz-nekls: just checked | 
| 19:48 | currently, path to MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl is hardcoded to use prog template | |
| 19:48 | liz-nekls | AH | 
| 19:48 | gmcharlt | so you're not crazy | 
| 19:48 | liz-nekls | lol | 
| 19:48 | YAY | |
| 19:48 | gmcharlt | at least, not about that ;) | 
| 19:49 | liz-nekls | hardee har har | 
| 19:49 | <3 | |
| 19:50 | well this definitely explains many problems I was having updating those templates ^.^ | |
| 19:50 | gmcharlt | liz-nekls: here's the bug to add yourself to the CC list: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2774 | 
| 19:51 | liz-nekls | ah, i see what you did there | 
| 06:04 | chris | hi nicomo | 
| 06:06 | nicomo | hi chris | 
| 06:06 | friday night already? | |
| 06:11 | chris | yup | 
| 06:11 | im full of hot cross buns | |
| 06:11 | is that an easter tradition in france? | |
| 06:12 | nicomo | no, not that i know of | 
| 06:12 | chris | it was a public holiday so I took kahu out to his grandparents and we made hot cross buns, and then ate them :) | 
| 06:12 | nicomo | eh eh | 
| 06:13 | tradition in france regarding easter is rather chocolate | |
| 06:13 | in the shapes of rabbits, eggs a hens mostly | |
| 06:13 | you hide them around in the garden or a parc | |
| 06:13 | and children have to find them | |
| 06:14 | does that exist in NZ? | |
| 06:14 | chris | yep that is for sunday | 
| 06:17 | easter egg hunt | |
| 06:17 | nicomo | so that's all we have here | 
| 06:18 | translation question | |
| 06:18 | chat does a "patron's account line" refer too in Koha? | |
| 06:18 | any idea? | |
| 06:18 | s/chat/what | |
| 06:20 | chris | ahh i think its a row in the accountlines table | 
| 06:20 | so it might be a fine, or a credit, or a rental charge | |
| 06:20 | so if you are looking a patrons account, which has a list of charges and payments | |
| 06:21 | its one line of that | |
| 06:21 | does that help? | |
| 06:21 | nicomo | yes it does | 
| 06:21 | i need to translate this | |
| 06:22 | 'If ON Patron account lines can be changed in the staff client' | |
| 06:22 | a new sys pref | |
| 06:23 | chris | ahh | 
| 06:23 | nicomo | if an account line is a fine, more or less, I gather that you can turn this OFF in the staff client? | 
| 06:23 | then how do you pay fines and all ? | |
| 06:23 | chris | i think If On staff can edit a borrowers accounts | 
| 06:23 | i think its more if its on, it lets you edit a fine | |
| 06:24 | nicomo | I'm not sure how this is intended to work | 
| 06:24 | chris | lemme check the code | 
| 06:24 | 2 secs | |
| 06:24 | ahh no code yet | |
| 06:25 | nicomo | no, it was an email on koha-devel | 
| 06:25 | working on patch | |
| 06:25 | needs french translation of sys pref | |
| 06:25 | well I'll assume it's a fine | |
| 06:25 | and we'll work from there | |
| 06:27 | chris | you might need to ask, what is it supposed to do, I assume it lets you edit any information to do with money on the patron's record | 
| 06:28 | nicomo | ok, thanks chris | 
| 07:22 | chris | hi paul_p and nahuel | 
| 07:22 | paul_p | hi chris | 
| 07:22 | chris | paul_p: did you see the email i cc'd you on? to david? | 
| 07:22 | paul_p | yep | 
| 07:23 | nahuel | hi chris | 
| 07:23 | chris, what's up? waiting for the travel to dallas? | |
| 07:24 | chris | yep, just got an email from david, he might be able to pick all of us up at the airport | 
| 07:24 | which would be good :) | |
| 07:24 | paul_p | chris, yep, seen the mail | 
| 07:24 | nahuel | it's really cool ! | 
| 07:27 | paul_p | chris: to answer Tina question about my title. | 
| 07:27 | chris | ah yes | 
| 07:27 | paul_p | How should I write "Paul Poulain, BibLibre boss, owner" | 
| 07:27 | ? | |
| 07:28 | chris | CEO ? | 
| 07:28 | paul_p | yep, you're right | 
| 07:29 | nicomo | always funny this issue of titles | 
| 07:29 | paul_p | nicomo: ++ | 
| 07:29 | nicomo | there usually are no titles in french companies | 
| 07:29 | chris | i just went Chris Cormack, Some Dude | 
| 07:29 | nicomo | so when we (biblibre) are asked about this | 
| 07:29 | chris | well i didnt really, but I should have | 
| 07:29 | nicomo | we basically invent new titles each time | 
| 07:29 | chris | yeah my business card doesnt have a job title | 
| 07:30 | I chose Chris Cormack, Translation Manager, Senior Developer Catalyst | |
| 07:30 | for kohacon | |
| 07:30 | paul_p | I've answered Tina "Koha 2.x Release Manager". You should add "Koha 1.x Release Manager" | 
| 07:34 | chris | oh yeah | 
| 07:34 | ah never mind | |
| 07:35 | I figure the people who come to our talk will know by the end :) | |
| 07:37 | paul_p | for sure ! | 
| 07:43 | chris | is it a public holiday today in france? | 
| 07:46 | paul_p | chris: nope. | 
| 07:46 | chris | monday? | 
| 07:47 | paul_p | what's strange in France : holiday on monday, not on friday, where the catholic event is today | 
| 07:47 | chris | we have holiday on friday and monday | 
| 07:47 | paul_p | but frenchies need a closed monday to retrieve from their heavy drinking/eating of sunday :D | 
| 07:47 | (yesterday, "Super size me" on TV, for the 1st time on a public channel) | |
| 07:50 | chris | heh | 
| 07:50 | it was an interesting movie | |
| 07:58 | hdl_laptop | on Holy Thursday... Is it criticizing Holy Meal ? | 
| 08:12 | chris | i dont think mc donalds is a holy meal anywhere :) | 
| 08:13 | hdl_laptop | mmm.. some comedians did a quick announce of a fake film | 
| 08:13 | Jesus II the return | |
| 08:13 | starring Stallone | |
| 08:14 | and holy meal was mcdonalds | |
| 08:14 | ;) | |
| 08:15 | chris | hehe | 
| 08:22 | hdl_laptop | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZJm000fMRk | 
| 08:28 | chris | hehe | 
| 08:47 | Hui_Nan_ | hello | 
| 09:13 | who knows, why in ru_RU installer INSERT of marcflavour='UNIMARC' variable is commented out? | |
| 09:14 | may it be because of the fact that in Russia many libraries use MARC21? | |
| 09:15 | I'm asking, because the choice of 'unimarc' during the web-based installation does not insert this variable into the database | |
| 09:36 | oh, i see, that should be done by installer %-( | 
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