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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:00 | mason | pastbin.com the output and il take a look if you want |
| 12:01 | fallor | DBI connect(':','',...) failed: Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) at /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/C4/Context.pm line 411 |
| 12:01 | this is when the whole thing dies | |
| 12:01 | mason | welll..... |
| 12:01 | fallor | it can't read the password for the database from the xml |
| 12:01 | i think | |
| 12:01 | soul9 | yes |
| 12:01 | check the password | |
| 12:02 | fallor | the password is correct, it's the xml that messes things up |
| 12:02 | mason | windows characters in your conf file? |
| 12:02 | etc... | |
| 12:02 | fallor | nope |
| 12:02 | mason | conf look like xml? |
| 12:02 | fallor | it's never been on a windows system |
| 12:03 | yep, it looks like perfectly ok xml to me | |
| 12:03 | mason | whew, thats good to hear :) |
| 12:03 | fallor | and i think xmllint agrees ;) |
| 12:04 | mason | yep, i think so too |
| 12:04 | fallor | how can i check the version of my xml::simple? |
| 12:04 | maybe there is something wrong with that | |
| 12:06 | mason | $ locate Simple.pm|grep XML |
| 12:07 | /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8/XML/Simple.pm | |
| 12:07 | /usr/share/perl5/XML/Simple.pm | |
| 12:07 | should be a version up the top line.. | |
| 12:07 | # $Id: Simple.pm,v 1.23 2005/01/29 04:16:10 grantm Exp $ | |
| 12:09 | . | |
| 12:09 | fallor | # $Id: Simple.pm,v 1.40 2007/08/15 10:36:48 grantm Exp $ |
| 12:09 | mason | if you have more than one copy on your box, check which one is being used 1st |
| 12:10 | fallor | i only have that one |
| 12:10 | mason | 1.40 is the latest from cpan |
| 12:11 | fallor | ok, so no point trying to upgrade it |
| 12:11 | the modules are all installed directly from cpan | |
| 12:11 | not the package repositories of the distribution | |
| 12:12 | mason | oops, fyi 1.40 is actually 2.18 |
| 12:12 | $VERSION = '2.18'; | |
| 12:12 | my bad | |
| 12:12 | fallor | err...? |
| 12:12 | come again? :D | |
| 12:13 | mason | line 58 of your Simple.pm |
| 12:13 | $VERSION = '2.18'; | |
| 12:13 | fallor | oh, yes |
| 12:13 | so it seems | |
| 12:14 | so 1.40 is really 2.18, unbeatable logic :D | |
| 12:19 | mason | fallor, i am not sure how to fix your problem now :/ |
| 12:20 | you may need to email the devel list for further help | |
| 12:20 | fallor | whats this pastebin.com thing then? |
| 12:21 | i could well send the output of the script there for you to see | |
| 12:21 | mason | yep, thats how to use pastebin |
| 12:24 | fallor | i'll have to check that it doesn't reveal passwords and such first ;) |
| 12:31 | ok, that's done | |
| 12:31 | so i'll just paste the output to pastebin.com then? | |
| 12:31 | mason | yep |
| 12:36 | fallor | ok, it's there now |
| 12:37 | mason | cool, now you paste in your new url ;) |
| 12:39 | fallor | http://pastebin.com/m61bbeee5 |
| 12:39 | ah, ok, so that's how it works | |
| 12:39 | i was wondering... :D | |
| 12:42 | mason | ahh, and try rebuild_zebra.pl please |
| 12:42 | there may be a bug wth nozeb.pl | |
| 12:43 | fallor | but the system is not using zebra :( |
| 12:43 | or is not planned to use | |
| 12:44 | zebra would require additional configuration, no? | |
| 12:49 | mason | http://pastebin.com/m3567f396 |
| 12:50 | fallor, an example of a perl script test your koha.conf file for errors | |
| 12:50 | using xml::simple | |
| 12:53 | fallor_ | like so |
| 12:54 | mason | hokay, back to work for a while... |
| 13:08 | jwagner | Good morning all. Anyone around who can discuss record display templates& |
| 13:09 | er, s/&/? of course.... | |
| 13:14 | owen | Whats on your mind jwagner? |
| 13:16 | hdl_laptop | you would like to get record display out of general display ? |
| 13:24 | jwagner | Hi, owen. There is a syspref of OPACURLOpenInNewWindow which is supposed to make URLs (like 856s) open in new browser windows. This works in the OPAC if you turn off the XSLT stuff, but does not work if the XSLT is in place. It doesn't work at all in the staff side, although the code in the .tmpl files looks the same as the opac tmpl. So (1) shouldn't this work even if XSLT is turned on, and (2) shouldn't it work through the staff side? |
| 13:25 | owen | (1) is a bug |
| 13:25 | (2) is a no: OPACURLOpenInNewWindow is only supposed to affect the OPAC | |
| 13:25 | If you wanted something for the staff client you'd have to create a new pref for that | |
| 13:26 | Generally we try to separate the functionality of OPAC prefs from staff client behavior | |
| 13:26 | jwagner | I thought it was a bug, but I didn't find anything on bugzilla. Has one been opened? |
| 13:26 | owen | I guess not |
| 13:30 | jwagner | I know staff & OPAC are supposed to use different templates, but what puzzled me here was that they both have the same code block for displaying URLs: |
| 13:30 | <!-- TMPL_IF NAME="OPACURLOpenInNewWindow" --><a href="<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="MARCURL" -->" title="<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="MARCURL" -->" target="_blank"><!-- TMPL_ELSE --><a href="<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="MARCURL" -->" title="<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="MARCURL" -->"><!-- /TMPL_IF --> | |
| 13:30 | owen | What file is that from? |
| 13:32 | jwagner | That was from opac-detail.tmpl. I could swear I found it also in detail.tmpl earlier, but I'm not seeing it now. I was logged into a different system then. Maybe someone had been working on the file there. |
| 13:33 | That's the problem with working between multiple systems under development :-( | |
| 13:40 | Would it be desirable, do you think, to either make an equivalent syspref for the staff side or make the staff side pay attention to the OPAC one? I think it should be a general rule that external URLs should open in a new window. | |
| 13:48 | owen | The reason the OPAC pref exists is that *some* people think it should be a general rule. |
| 13:48 | And the OPAC rule should definitely not apply to the staff side. | |
| 13:48 | If you think it's a good addition, feel free to submit a patch creating a new system pref for the staff side. | |
| 13:49 | I don't see the need myself, but I really only know the perspective of one library | |
| 13:50 | jwagner | OK, thanks. I'll think about a patch for the staff side. Should I go ahead & open a bugzilla report on the XSLT problem? Or do you know if someone is already working on it? |
| 13:51 | owen | Even if someone is working on it, if it's a bug it's a bug |
| 13:53 | jwagner | I know that bugs get identified & fixed without ever going through bugzilla, but that sure makes it hard for someone else running into the same problem. I'll go ahead & put in a report. Thanks much! |
| 13:55 | slef | anyone know why koha-zebra isn't on http://lists.koha.org/mailman/listinfo ? |
| 14:10 | owen | jwagner: Just because there is a possibility that a bug is known shouldn't discourage you from reporting it |
| 14:18 | jwagner | I've submitted it -- #3098. |
| 14:30 | owen | Hi liz_nekls_ |
| 14:56 | hdl_laptop | slef: because I forgot. |
| 15:06 | !seen gmcharlt | |
| 15:07 | owen | that makes danny the primary suspect |
| 15:10 | hdl_laptop | slef: I will solve your pb |
| 15:15 | done | |
| 15:18 | owen | Interesting... I notice we're no longer seeing NULL branch entries in our statistics table for renewals. Someone fixed that bug? |
| 15:23 | hdl_laptop | was fixed long ago |
| 15:24 | but there is a maintenance script to update data | |
| 15:24 | from what I know | |
| 15:30 | atz | owen: see installer/data/mysql/backfill_statistics.pl |
| 15:30 | file probably should be moved under maintenance | |
| 15:56 | pianohacker | Just out of curiousity, does anyone know how many people are signed up for Kohacon? |
| 16:07 | owen | pianohacker: I suppose David Schuster must know |
| 18:39 | chris | pianohacker: last i heard it was round the 90 mark |
| 18:40 | pianohacker | Just received word from David Schuster that we have about 110 signed up |
| 18:40 | This is going to be quite the conference | |
| 18:41 | chris | yup |
| 18:42 | i cant remember if you said you were attending or not? | |
| 18:42 | pianohacker | Yup, driving down |
| 18:45 | chris | sweet |
| 18:57 | atz | chris: i still don't think I've rec'd any official message like "you are presenting Z, Y and X at these times" |
| 18:57 | would be nice to know what I'm on the hook for | |
| 18:58 | chris | ohh |
| 18:58 | i can tell ya | |
| 18:58 | http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]conferenceprogram | |
| 18:59 | brendan | atz - you're doing the whole conference :) |
| 18:59 | chris | cron jobs, rfid sip, under the hood with mysql |
| 19:00 | atz | ok, cool. |
| 19:01 | they split out the SIP vendors from the rfid? | |
| 19:01 | chris | ill probably only heckle for one of them :P |
| 19:01 | yeah the 2 vendors have a slot each | |
| 19:01 | we must be sure to ask them the hard questions, like why do i have to run this on windows | |
| 19:02 | :) | |
| 19:02 | (that was one of the reasons envisionware lost the bid for HLT) | |
| 19:02 | atz | i don't mind that on the client side, actually. most of our clients are still win32. |
| 19:04 | it's more useful (to them) than a linux-only client-side | |
| 19:04 | chris | i think if you are gonna present at a conference about a FLOSS ILS, your stuff should at least work on a FLOSS OS |
| 19:04 | hlt have linux machines for their circulation terminals | |
| 19:05 | atz | not really, in this case, since the 3M specs for SIP2 actually enshrine a MS character set, and the reference implementation test suite is win32. |
| 19:05 | chris | they would have to spend money buying windows licenses |
| 19:05 | atz | i mean, conceptually I agree w/ you. but from the sip/rfid vendor's perspective, they have to start in win32 |
| 19:06 | chris | sure |
| 19:06 | but techlogic and 3m | |
| 19:06 | both dont require you to have a windows machine between their device and the ils | |
| 19:06 | atz | i've had to educate *several* rfid vendor/integrators about Koha being OSS (and not LibLime's "product") |
| 19:07 | including our main contact at 3M! | |
| 19:07 | chris | *nod* |
| 19:07 | been there done that :) | |
| 19:08 | so i think if we can educate the vendors a bit | |
| 19:08 | while they do their sales bit | |
| 19:08 | its a win win :) | |
| 19:09 | atz | chris: when do you get into TX? |
| 19:10 | chris | 9.30pm ish on the 14th |
| 19:10 | atz | and when's the baseball game? |
| 19:11 | *i get in about a day after you) | |
| 19:11 | chris | thats a good question, theres a bunch of them |
| 19:11 | there are the frisco roughriders just up the road | |
| 19:12 | which the hotel will shuttle us too | |
| 19:13 | http://www.ridersbaseball.com/schedule/ | |
| 19:14 | brendan | looks like opening day on thursday -- maybe get some fireworks too! |
| 19:14 | chris | awesome :) |
| 19:16 | http://www.ridersbaseball.com/dp/ | |
| 19:16 | looks like a fun ballpark | |
| 19:17 | http://www.ridersbaseball.com/deuce/schedule/ | |
| 19:17 | fireworks it is | |
| 19:21 | brendan | cool so it looks like friday night is the night to go! |
| 19:21 | chris | sounds like a plan |
| 19:22 | wrap up the conference and go have some beers and hotdogs and watch some baseball | |
| 19:22 | looking at the photos it does like a really nice stadium | |
| 19:23 | http://www.ridersbaseball.com/[…]ndex.html?id=1429 | |
| 19:24 | can we get 20 people? hehe | |
| 19:28 | atz | depends, a lot of ppl will be going home friday |
| 19:28 | how many devs are we going to have? | |
| 19:30 | chris | im there till the 21st |
| 19:30 | gmcharlt | I'm there through Monday afternoon |
| 19:30 | chris | i aint travelling for 26 hours for less than a week :) |
| 19:30 | ditto | |
| 19:31 | alhto it will be pretty early | |
| 19:31 | june 8 is due date | |
| 19:31 | but kahu was 5 weeks prem | |
| 19:32 | owen | May 12 for us, but Thatcher was 2 weeks early. |
| 19:32 | chris | impatient kids |
| 19:32 | sheesh | |
| 19:32 | owen | Yeah, don't they know we're doin' stuff? |
| 19:32 | chris | heh |
| 19:33 | hows the pacifier withdrawal goin? | |
| 19:33 | atz: nahuel and paul leave the same day as me | |
| 19:33 | owen | :) Fine actually. But his sister is a total enabler. |
| 19:33 | chris | atz: we arrive 20 mins apart too ... totally unplanned but cool |
| 19:34 | owen: hehe | |
| 19:35 | atz: that way we can share a taxi and i hopefully wont fall asleep in it :) | |
| 19:36 | atz | long taxi ride, according to google maps... 30 miles or so, but an hour of drive time including toll roads :( |
| 19:36 | chris | fun fun fun |
| 19:36 | brendan | I'll be there through sunday -- so it's looks like we may get close to the 20 ppl group package |
| 19:37 | chris | right i best go get ready for work and catch my bus |
| 19:37 | be back in an hour or so | |
| 19:37 | good night to them thats gonna be gone by then :) | |
| 19:38 | atz | be sweet if we can get the obligatory 3 second "Welcome Kohacon Members" stadium mention |
| 19:38 | owen | I don't know...just for a stadium-ful of "Whuuuh?" |
| 19:41 | atz | nah, they always do that kind of thing |
| 19:42 | "Welcome Janet Polosovic and friends, and happy 46th birthday..." | |
| 19:44 | i was at a Columbus Crew (US soccer... reigning champs, actually) game and they had 2 birthdays, a couple corporate groups, and a kids soccer team. | |
| 19:45 | that was more interesting than the tanning-salon sponsored cheerleaders.... | |
| 19:48 | pianohacker | I question your standards, but it does sound interesting :) |
| 20:44 | chris | back |
| 20:45 | pianohacker: hehe | |
| 21:23 | http://www.optec-labs.com/blogs/?p=95 | |
| 04:24 | bignose-work | The documentation for configuring Koha for LDAP <URL: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]:development:ldap > is a little vague |
| 04:24 | When specifying "user" and "pass" elements (in the "ldapserver" element), what username and password is expected? | |
| 04:25 | the page says "<!-- DN, if not anonymous -->" and "<!-- password, if not anonymous --> | |
| 04:25 | but how do I know whether it should be anonymous, and if not, which DN and password to use? | |
| 04:34 | okay, so I'm guessing Koha doesn't use PAM for talking with LDAP? | |
| 04:34 | and also doesn't connect to the LDAP store on behalf of the user who connects to Koha? | |
| 04:36 | the example config talks about a "Manager" LDAP account; presumably I need to set up a non-person LDAP account which Koha will use for querying LDAP. | |
| 04:36 | (I don't consider "let Koha connect as the LDAP superuser" an option.) | |
| 04:38 | or is anonymous LDAP access sufficient? | |
| 04:39 | answer: no, because Koha is retrieving the password field. | |
| 04:42 | greenmang0 | bignose-work: what are you trying to achieve by connecting Koha with LDAP? |
| 04:43 | bignose-work: i don't know what was going on earlier | |
| 04:43 | bignose-work: i just joined a channel | |
| 04:43 | bignose-work: are you trying to authenticate koha users off ldap? | |
| 04:57 | bignose-work | I'm trying to re-use existing LDAP accounts as lenders in a Koha system. |
| 04:59 | and, ideally, some accounts as administrators of that system. | |
| 05:22 | greenmang0 | bignose-work: ok |
| 07:00 | chris | evening |
| 07:05 | kf | morning chris |
| 07:08 | nicomo | morning chris and kf |
| 07:13 | kf | morning nicomo |
| 07:13 | last workday this week - yay | |
| 07:13 | nicomo | :-) |
| 07:13 | lucky you | |
| 07:13 | kf | easter holidays :) |
| 07:17 | chris | yep, here too |
| 07:17 | kf | chris: opals-na is based on koha? |
| 07:17 | chris | public holiday until tuesday |
| 07:17 | yep | |
| 07:18 | kf | same here |
| 07:19 | never thought that - looks so different | |
| 07:21 | chris | yeah theyve rewritten most of it |
| 07:22 | it was forked way way back | |
| 07:22 | 2003ish | |
| 07:22 | koha itself looks way different to what it did then :) | |
| 07:22 | kf | ah ok, read about opals first some days ago http://www.libraryjournal.com/[…]le/CA6645868.html |
| 07:24 | chris | http://listes.koha-fr.org/pipe[…]ember/004784.html |
| 07:24 | steve tonnessen (who you will know from the koha history) | |
| 07:25 | did some work getting koha going for a group of schools, from that came opals | |
| 07:29 | openbook is another fork | |
| 07:29 | which got some vc funding | |
| 07:29 | and promptly imploded | |
| 07:34 | i always find it a shame when people decide to invest time and money redoing what someone has done, when they could get involved and contribute to an exisitng project instead | |
| 07:45 | paul_p | hello everybody |
| 07:45 | chris | hey paul |
| 07:55 | kf | hey paul |
| 07:58 | Hui_Nan_ | hey! |
| 07:59 | chris | hi Hui_Nan_ |
| 07:59 | Hui_Nan_ | I'm just curious^ during the installation Makefile.pl asks for the main zebra language |
| 07:59 | which could be either en or fr | |
| 07:59 | what does it mean& | |
| 07:59 | ? | |
| 07:59 | paul_p | Hui_Nan_: English or French |
| 08:00 | Hui_Nan_ | I mean functionally |
| 08:00 | what is the difference in functioning of zebra | |
| 08:00 | & | |
| 08:00 | ? | |
| 08:00 | or which settings in zebra's config are changed? | |
| 08:10 | hdl_laptop | Hui_Nan_: word-phrase and sorting zebra files changes |
| 08:11 | Hui_Nan_ | hdl_laptop: could you say which config files should I check? |
| 08:13 | hdl_laptop | it is in lang_defs/en lang_defs/fr |
| 08:13 | soul9 | hello #koha |
| 08:14 | Hui_Nan_ | hdl_laptop: thank you! |
| 09:09 | I just entered a marc record | |
| 09:09 | I can't search for it until zebra's index is updated& | |
| 09:10 | Am I right? | |
| 09:10 | Say, I remembered that I forgot to specify some important data and I want to edit the record just created | |
| 09:11 | is there a way to find it? | |
| 09:11 | paul_p | Hui_Nan_: you're right. |
| 09:12 | soul9 | i think the zebraqueue is supposed to be the que where new/modified records are pushed wqaiting to be indexed |
| 09:12 | paul_p | you can't search until zebra is OK |
| 09:12 | Hui_Nan_: to find the record, you can just point directly at it. Should be : /cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/MARCdetail.pl?biblionumber=1 ! | |
| 09:13 | Hui_Nan_ | a kind of 'Edited today' box needed ;-) |
| 09:14 | or a kind of plugin to Cataloguing module | |
| 09:15 | paul_p | Hui_Nan_: just enter a SQL in the guided report ;-) |
| 09:16 | SELECT biblionumber FROM biblio WHERE datecreated=today() | |
| 09:16 | Hui_Nan_ | paul_p: thank you for clue! |
| 09:16 | paul_p | should do the job ;-) |
| 10:05 | Hui_Nan_ | I certainly like SQL-based reports |
| 10:06 | is there a possibility to write perl reports? | |
| 10:08 | paul_p | Hui_Nan_: non inside Koha itself |
| 10:08 | Hui_Nan_: not inside Koha itself | |
| 10:08 | Hui_Nan_ | of course perl should sit somewhere on the server's filesystem |
| 10:09 | ;-) | |
| 10:10 | oh, I see: intranet/cgi-bin/reports/ | |
| 10:56 | where can I edit messages that appear on a main opac page? | |
| 11:07 | ups, I've got no tools O_o | |
| 11:07 | just an empty page | |
| 11:36 | kf | would be tools > news and look at system preferenes opac for footer and link list |
| 11:41 | Hui_Nan_ | Yes, but tools page is empty |
| 11:42 | I have a suspection that I need to recompile templates | |
| 11:42 | or clear some cache | |
| 11:43 | 'cos now I logged as a user who certainly has 'superlibrarian' flag (flags is odd) | |
| 11:43 | s/logged/logged in/ |
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