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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 11:00 | hdl_laptop | hi |
| 11:01 | Amit | hi hdl |
| 18:29 | pianohacker | Hmm. Is it common practice (or at least encouraged) to indent inside <!-- TMPL_IF --> or <!-- TMPL_LOOP -->? |
| 18:29 | Or just follow the indentation of the HTML? | |
| 18:30 | owen | I suspect it's up to the whim of the author at the moment |
| 18:30 | pianohacker | That's what I thought |
| 18:30 | gmcharlt | yep, whim of author |
| 18:31 | I like indenting within tmpl_if and tmpl_loop | |
| 18:31 | but obviously can lead to rather wide pages | |
| 18:31 | set termsize=2048x80 | |
| 18:32 | pianohacker | Perhaps I should look into a smaller font and a pair of reading glasses |
| 18:34 | gmcharlt | custom syntax highlighter might be easier on your eyes :) |
| 18:34 | pianohacker | Heh |
| 19:53 | hdl_laptop | pianohacker: problem with that indentation is that sometimes, it makes things much longer than necessary for a page since linebreaks are copied and paste |
| 19:54 | pianohacker | Yeah, in view source |
| 19:54 | hdl_laptop | yeah and this I find more confusing than getting TMPL_IF or loops on oneline. |
| 19:55 | But this is My opinion. | |
| 19:55 | Another thing is that DOM elements can take spaces... | |
| 19:55 | So this is also to consider. | |
| 19:56 | chris | i wonder does html::template have a filter mechanism like template::toolkit does |
| 19:57 | pianohacker | chris: No, that would be too useful for html::template's tastes |
| 19:57 | chris | i have to admit, i love tt now |
| 19:57 | we could do it ourselves tho, in koha's case | |
| 19:57 | as we use C4::Output | |
| 19:58 | it could filter out whitespace | |
| 19:58 | pianohacker | It would actually be fairly trivial, though we'd want it to be partially controlled by a syspref, so devs could have a useful view-source |
| 19:58 | chris | *nod* |
| 19:59 | gmcharlt | want to put something together? |
| 19:59 | chris | just for cutting down page size in production, its suprising how much difference that can make |
| 19:59 | can do, ill have a go after work tonight | |
| 19:59 | pianohacker | I'm actually working on a revamp (again) of the sysprefs page that would be greatly helped by that patch. |
| 20:00 | chris | gmcharlt: did you see the history.txt im working on? |
| 20:00 | gmcharlt | not yet - where is it? |
| 20:01 | chris | its in git, on github or my git .. ill send a patch when its closer to done ... 2 secs ill get a url |
| 20:01 | http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-[…]docs/history.txt; | |
| 20:02 | figure get it in there, then we can get patches from people to fill in the blanks :) | |
| 20:03 | gmcharlt | cool |
| 20:03 | is HLT's original ILS old/dead enough to identify? | |
| 20:03 | pianohacker | That's very comprehensive, chris++ |
| 20:03 | chris | it started off just as my notes for the presentation |
| 20:03 | but then i thought, hey this is good to get into git as well | |
| 20:04 | oh yeah i should put in the dates HLT upgraded | |
| 20:04 | once to 1.2.3 and once to 2.2.5 (havent got there yet) | |
| 20:04 | and soon to 3.0.x | |
| 20:05 | gmcharlt: yeah it was called c2 | |
| 20:05 | hence c4 ... twice as good, or might explode :-) | |
| 20:05 | catalist | |
| 20:05 | gmcharlt | I see a every_theory_of_the_genesis_of_the_name_c4.txt in the near future :) |
| 20:06 | chris | http://www.contecds.com/library.htm <-- that one |
| 20:06 | pianohacker | gmcharlt: Does the git.koha.org server have large file support compiled in? |
| 20:06 | chris | course it wasnt windows based at the time |
| 20:07 | it was totally dos ... running on dosemu on linux | |
| 20:07 | gmcharlt: its been c4, then kumara, then koha :) | |
| 20:08 | gmcharlt: c2 was (is??) pick based | |
| 20:08 | gmcharlt | good old PICK |
| 20:08 | chris | so olwen had to spend a bunch of time writing PICK to get the data out |
| 20:08 | I must add her name to the history | |
| 20:09 | gmcharlt | pianohacker: yes - why? |
| 20:09 | pianohacker | If you're going to have that theory_of_the_name_c4.txt file in there, it'd better |
| 20:10 | gmcharlt | heh |
| 20:10 | chris | what are some of the theories? |
| 20:11 | would be quite a fun file | |
| 20:37 | headbang | hi |
| 20:38 | pianohacker | headbang: hello |
| 20:38 | headbang | by any change someone from libki around |
| 20:38 | chris | libki? |
| 20:38 | pianohacker | headbang: I think you want kyle hall |
| 20:39 | headbang | yeah |
| 20:39 | thats him :) | |
| 20:40 | pianohacker | headbang: Here's his contact page: http://kylehall.info/index.php/contact/ |
| 20:40 | headbang | yeah hoped to get some rela time help from him |
| 20:41 | pianohacker | Ah. Don't think I've seen him on IRC |
| 20:41 | gmcharlt | yeah, he doesn't show up on #koha very often - email will be quicker |
| 20:42 | headbang | ok |
| 20:42 | ill try that tomorow then :) | |
| 20:42 | was hoping to get libki server to work | |
| 21:39 | noone else who uses libki? | |
| 01:28 | Jo | hi all. I am working through the Implementation check list in koha 3.0 manual, and need to make sure I have "set up and define staff patron records and set permissions". |
| 01:28 | and I am not what that means ... I have set up patron catagories (including a worker) but I suspect the permission sbit is something else again | |
| 01:29 | any ideas of where i should be looking in the setup? | |
| 01:30 | sys pref / granular permissions (maybe..) | |
| 01:30 | chris | you have to add your staff |
| 01:30 | if they werent in there already | |
| 01:30 | then set the permissions for each of them | |
| 01:31 | if its using the data from your old koha, then they should be in there already, you might just have to fix their permissions | |
| 02:28 | Jo | ok thanks Chris. SO once we do the conversion of Patrons from koha 2 to 3 we should be able to see what needs doing then. |
| 02:29 | chris | yep, assuming you had each of your staff as a patron in 2 |
| 02:31 | Jo | ok. will check. thanks |
| 02:31 | chris | np, new server all up and going now? |
| 03:03 | Jo | nope. still a loan one |
| 03:30 | Amit | hi chris, mason, brendan good morning |
| 03:31 | brendan | Good morning Amit! Chris and Mason... |
| 03:31 | Evening here | |
| 03:31 | Amit | good evening |
| 03:33 | chris | afternoon here |
| 03:36 | Amit | hi chris good morning |
| 04:57 | chris | right, back at home |
| 05:49 | elwell | chris: has anyone got a plot of no of contributors over time? be nice to see if its linear/exponential |
| 05:49 | (looking at the history.tzt | |
| 05:50 | chris | we are up to i think 88 now |
| 05:51 | http://stats.workbuffer.org/ | |
| 05:51 | some stats there | |
| 05:52 | (88 is just a guesstimate trying to remove the duplicates) | |
| 05:53 | and i think we just got one more new one today (ill have to rebuild stats when the patch is accepted) which would make you 3rd to last :) | |
| 05:53 | elwell | heh thats 2 higher than I expected |
| 05:54 | chris | you, then Daniel Sweeney, then Jane Wagner |
| 05:54 | just updated the history.txt | |
| 05:54 | bought halfway through 2004 now | |
| 05:54 | bout even | |
| 05:55 | http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-[…]docs/history.txt; | |
| 05:57 | but my son is demanding i play trains | |
| 05:57 | so taking a break :) | |
| 05:57 | elwell | you folks up in N Island? |
| 06:09 | chris | right he's having his cup of milk before doing his teeth for bed now .. he'll drag this out as long as he can :) |
| 06:09 | yeah wellington | |
| 06:23 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_LaAkAyoz0 <-- landing at wellington :) | |
| 06:27 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]Q&feature=related <-- thats what i was actually looking for | |
| 06:38 | elwell | yeah - we were there (briefly) last July. Nice place, even in winter |
| 06:40 | that landing clip at 0:56 is an interesting technique - nose wheel first | |
| 06:42 | chris | yeah, it can get pretty scary |
| 06:43 | short runway too, so they have to break pretty hard | |
| 06:44 | brake | |
| 06:44 | they dont often break :) | |
| 06:44 | elwell | well, lack of one leads to the other |
| 06:44 | chris | yup |
| 06:48 | elwell | :-) like your 'advantages of working from home' page |
| 06:48 | /your/katipo/ | |
| 06:49 | chris | yep, i enjoyed those for 9 years ;) |
| 06:49 | im enjoying working in at an office at catalyst though .. can really work from home with a toddler | |
| 06:49 | can=can't | |
| 06:50 | work half the year at home and half the year in an office at liblime | |
| 06:50 | elwell | aye. Least ours are at school, but you need a flexible boss to fit in with dropoffs/pickup/sick etc |
| 06:50 | chris | *nod* |
| 06:50 | both catalyst and katipo are good like that | |
| 06:51 | the directors/owners have kids too, so understand | |
| 06:53 | elwell | don't suppose you've met Paul Walmsley in your IT excursions have you? Used to work with him here in the UK but he's now in christchurch (but travels -- any work is work) |
| 06:54 | chris | i dont think so, but im bad with names |
| 06:56 | elwell | http://qasol.com/ <-- thats him |
| 07:02 | chris | nope don't think so, the photo doesnt ring any bells |
| 07:24 | Amit_Gupta | hi nahuel |
| 07:27 | nahuel | hi |
| 07:30 | kf | good morning all |
| 07:30 | Amit_Gupta | hi kf ;) |
| 07:31 | chris | ohh 2 new languages for translation |
| 07:32 | kf | hi Amit :) |
| 07:32 | chris | Dari and Pashto (from Afghanistan) |
| 07:35 | paul_p | hello world. |
| 07:35 | Amit_Gupta | hi paul ;) |
| 07:36 | paul_p | (to present 2008 financial results) |
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