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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 13:19 | jwagner | Can someone answer a historical question? Is there a reason the patron table doesn't have a separate state field for addresses? For U.S. libraries that would seem to be a given. There is a separate municipality field, but it's not part of the main address section. I'm wondering if there was a particular reason this field hasn't been added. Thanks. |
| 13:25 | paul_p | hi jwagner. |
| 13:26 | hdl_laptop | hi jwagner |
| 13:26 | paul_p | i'm probably a good historian ;-) |
| 13:26 | the answer is probably: because v1 was done by a kiwi (New Zealand), then a frenchy came (me & hdl), and none of us have this question. | |
| 13:29 | jwagner | I thought that might be it. I'm not sure it's critical -- the library can enter City, State in the City field -- but we got a question on it. It might be something to keep in mind if someone is overhauling the patron table in the future. I think there are other countries than the U.S. that have the equivalent of states in addresses. Thanks. |
| 13:34 | owen | I agree with jwagner on the City/State issue, but I share the US perspective. I suspect the preferred UI would be different for different countries. |
| 13:37 | jwagner | Maybe some kind of template that allows the site to pick the fields that should be part of a standard address? I haven't dug into templates much yet -- don't know if that functionality is already there. |
| 13:37 | owen | Nope |
| 13:37 | But I think it's a good idea. Some kind of global template for what patron fields to use. | |
| 13:37 | I can imagine it, but I don't know how you'd make it work :) | |
| 13:39 | jwagner | Something like the MARC framework but simpler, for patron records? With settings for Required, Optional, and Don't Display in the record editor? |
| 13:42 | paul_p | jwagner: there's already something to have fields mandatory/non mandatory. "hidden" could be added easily I think (it's a syspref, don't remember which atm) |
| 13:44 | owen | then we'd have to add some fields to accommodate different variations on city/state |
| 13:45 | ...and maybe zip code/post code/whatever? | |
| 13:45 | paul_p | and probably alternate address & 2nd, 3rd, 4th mail ... |
| 13:45 | we have some libraries thinking the patron form is much too heavy ! | |
| 13:46 | (some being happy with it) | |
| 13:46 | so, having a "hidden" option for each field is a very good idea ;-) | |
| 13:46 | jwagner | Paul, the syspref you're referring to is BorrowerMandatoryField, correct? Yes, maybe that could be expanded somehow. I was also thinking about the patron edit screen -- where the fields are placed for data entry. |
| 13:46 | paul_p | jwagner: right |
| 13:49 | owen | From a usability point of view the trouble with BorrowerMandatoryField is that the librarian has to know the field names |
| 13:51 | paul_p | owen: ++ |
| 13:52 | jwagner | Yes, I noticed that. I'm not sure it's possible to modify the syspref edit screen to allow a pulldown or selection list, but maybe just add a display line containing all the field names? |
| 13:53 | paul_p | cheap version : add the field names (but think translations : that won't be good for other languages) |
| 13:54 | perfect version : add a pulldown | |
| 13:54 | owen | The language and opaclanguages prefs are a better model I think |
| 13:55 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: about? |
| 14:00 | hdl_laptop | yes |
| 14:00 | gmcharlt: i am here | |
| 14:00 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: got a 3.0.1 tarfile for me? |
| 14:01 | hdl_laptop | I sent the link on dl.free.fr yesterday |
| 14:02 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: I must have missed - please send it again |
| 14:03 | hdl_laptop | resent |
| 14:04 | gmcharlt | got it now - didn't receive the email yesterday |
| 14:06 | hdl_laptop | http://dl.free.fr/cIEoRF3MK |
| 14:06 | this link. | |
| 14:06 | gmcharlt: so kados must have missed it too. | |
| 14:07 | gmcharlt | no matter, after I verify it, will put it today |
| 14:07 | then you can announce the release | |
| 14:26 | hdl_laptop | ok thx |
| 15:17 | liz | question: is there a way to report on items that have a "long in transit time" |
| 15:17 | in-transit | |
| 15:19 | owen | Isn't that "transfers to receive" ? /cgi-bin/koha/circ/transferstoreceive.pl |
| 15:20 | liz | hm |
| 15:20 | I'm thinking of items that are listed as "in transit" | |
| 15:21 | let me run it and look | |
| 15:25 | owen | I don't know...The results of that report aren't exactly what I was thinking of, but it does list the date of transfer so you could see what the oldest ones were |
| 15:26 | And that report does list things that are in transit, either because they're going back to their home branch or because they're on hold | |
| 15:35 | kf | there is a syspref for long in transit warnings: TransfersMaxDaysWarning |
| 15:37 | nicole writes: It is a way to alert that items in transit have not reached their destination in a reasonable amount of time. | |
| 15:40 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: have you had time to take a look at borrowers import I sent you in December ? |
| 15:42 | liz | kf: how does it alert? |
| 15:42 | hdl_laptop | atz: about the OpenNCIP code in Koha, is there a way to make stuff synch again ? Is there a plan to do so ? |
| 15:42 | atz | i was discussing it w/ phase_fx |
| 15:43 | hdl_laptop | code4lib channel ? |
| 15:43 | atz | it would be reasonable to do, but will require refactoring Koha install to CPAN it, for example |
| 15:43 | no, phasefx is on here still | |
| 15:44 | i would like to do it, but it isn't a very high priority | |
| 15:45 | i think the differences are minor there | |
| 15:45 | liz | kf: nm, rtfm |
| 15:45 | kf | sorry, afk liz |
| 15:46 | liz | sok, i found it :) |
| 15:46 | kf | ok :) |
| 15:49 | team bowling today yay - bye #koha :) | |
| 18:49 | tim | Does anyone know what would cause some subfields to be hidden in the editor on Koha 3 when they aren't set to hidden in the framework? |
| 19:15 | chris | yo nicole |
| 19:15 | tim: beats me | |
| 19:15 | nengard | yo |
| 19:15 | is paul around? | |
| 19:15 | i wanted to get the kohacon announcement up on koha.org | |
| 19:15 | chris | just missed him |
| 19:15 | i can do that | |
| 19:16 | nengard | thanks chris |
| 19:16 | that would be great | |
| 19:16 | just the email he sent to kohadevel | |
| 19:16 | it's the press release | |
| 19:16 | chris | and to the main koha one? |
| 19:16 | nengard | and i want to link to it |
| 19:16 | yes - koha.org news | |
| 19:16 | chris | k |
| 19:16 | on the homepage? | |
| 19:16 | mason | morning kids |
| 19:16 | nengard | y |
| 19:16 | chris | k |
| 19:17 | tim | nengard, I finally just set the fields to mandatory by editing the marc_subfield_structure table. I'd still like to know why they woudn't show and why I can't set them to mandatory through the Koha interface. |
| 19:17 | chris | hey mason |
| 19:17 | nengard | tim - i'm confused - is this in relation to an email i have? or something else - |
| 19:17 | mason | tim: beats me too |
| 19:17 | nengard | if it beats the developers - then maybe it's a bug?? |
| 19:18 | chris - the news should be here: http://koha.org/about-koha/news/ i guess | |
| 19:18 | and that shows on the homepage | |
| 19:19 | tim | Yup. It's the same problem as in the email. My wording seems to be messed up. |
| 19:19 | chris | yeah you have to choose if you want it on the homepage or not |
| 19:19 | kea has a pretty cool news system | |
| 19:19 | nengard | ah |
| 19:24 | thanks chris | |
| 19:24 | to all: http://koha.org/about-koha/news/nr1233775168.html | |
| 19:27 | chris - is there a way to fix the RSS feed on this page?? http://koha.org/about-koha/news/index.html If you can fix it then I can pull it into Facebook on the Koha Pages | |
| 19:29 | chris | i didnt know it even had a feed |
| 19:30 | oh yeah, it doesnt | |
| 19:32 | Khalsa | waoh cool kohacon in Plano |
| 19:33 | would it be ok for someone who knows next-to-nothing about koha to go? | |
| 19:33 | chris | yes indeed |
| 19:34 | Khalsa | also, why a thursday-friday? |
| 19:34 | chris | why not? :) |
| 19:35 | if im gonna fly all the way from nz, i want at least a weekend there too :) | |
| 19:35 | Khalsa | fair enough |
| 19:36 | sucks for me though since thursday's are difficult to get off, and pretty much all the things I'd want to go to are on the thursday >_> | |
| 19:36 | and most conferences like this are usualy fri-sat which work out better (for me) | |
| 19:38 | Luckily it's only a 230 mile drive for me (not a long ass flight like you) | |
| 19:38 | chris | hmm its 1 hr flight to auckland, 13 hours to LA .. then whatever it takes to fly from there to texas .. ill be pretty tired :) |
| 19:39 | Khalsa | which is why you should take one day to rest and have the conference on fri-sat :p |
| 19:39 | chris | heh |
| 19:39 | danny | lol |
| 19:40 | chris | oh ill be flying the tuesday or so |
| 19:40 | the developers conference is the 3 days after | |
| 19:41 | Khalsa | I guess I shouldn't ask for much more. The group whom I'm about to try and help with Koha is in Dallas, so that part at least works out perfectly |
| 19:41 | I'll drag 2-3 of those people along | |
| 19:41 | chris | awesome |
| 19:41 | the more the merrier | |
| 19:41 | danny | chris, has that been finalized too it will be the sat, sun, mon after? |
| 19:42 | chris | i think thats pretty much finalised now danny, afaik |
| 19:42 | danny | cool |
| 19:44 | nengard | Khalsa make sure you register everyone who's coming - we need a head count - since it's free we have to make sure everything is set up ahead of time |
| 19:45 | Khalsa | will-do |
| 19:45 | nengard | also share that link around so other Koha users and developers see it :) |
| 19:45 | so chris - back to that RSS ... any ideas??? :) | |
| 19:54 | chris | nengard: that has never worked |
| 19:55 | <link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="Development Blog" href="http://blogs.koha.org/xml/rss.xml" /> | |
| 19:55 | kados | nicomo: fwiw, clay is working on the plone environment |
| 19:55 | nicomo | ok, cool |
| 19:55 | kados | oops, meant that for nengard |
| 19:55 | :) | |
| 19:55 | nicomo | never mind : I'm interested in it too |
| 19:56 | as I'll have to think about the way we manage the french version of the manual too | |
| 19:56 | :-) | |
| 19:56 | kados | should be easy with plone as you can translate pages directly |
| 19:56 | nicomo | cool : so keep me posted, thanks ;-) |
| 21:41 | atz | jeez, #kohanews is on fire today |
| 21:42 | gmcharlt: finding GetMarcFromKohaField calls that don't supply necessary 2nd argument | |
| 21:42 | (argument can be "", but can't be undef) | |
| 21:44 | may cause weirdness... including call number sort breaking, perhaps | |
| 21:44 | patch coming | |
| 21:45 | seems strange, but we end up using "" as a key in a hashref | |
| 21:45 | didn't think that was legal | |
| 21:45 | but i guess it is | |
| 21:47 | gmcharlt | atz: "" is legal has a hash key, undef is not |
| 21:49 | atz | yeah, that's what i was saying |
| 21:56 | gmcharlt: patch sent | |
| 22:33 | Khalsa | Is the koha 3.x docs ( https://sites.google.com/a/lib[…]/koha-manual/Home ) complete enough for me to use as a base to start from to learn about koha? |
| 22:37 | mason | sure it is ;) |
| 03:29 | Amit | hi gm koha |
| 03:29 | gm mason | |
| 04:00 | irma | server -m freenode |
| 06:17 | mc | hello world |
| 06:20 | Amit | hi mc |
| 07:26 | chris | evening |
| 07:29 | Amit | hi chris |
| 08:11 | mason | heya amit and chris |
| 08:11 | Amit | hi |
| 08:16 | anasha | hi mason |
| 08:16 | hows you? | |
| 08:18 | paul_p | hello everybody |
| 08:18 | mason | me good :) |
| 08:21 | hdl_laptop | hi anasha mason and paul_p |
| 08:24 | anasha | hello hdl_laptop |
| 08:59 | HARE9 | hi |
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