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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 13:32 | paul_p | 'morning owen |
| 13:33 | danny | morning #koha |
| 13:33 | paul_p | in which case is there such embedding ? |
| 13:33 | owen | http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]9c7f9be1d66ec347e |
| 13:33 | Who, sorry--didn't realize that url was so monstrous | |
| 13:33 | gmcharlt | not the only place |
| 13:33 | paul_p | snow in marseille today : occurs once every 10 years or so. The view from our office :http://pepys.biblibre.com/neige.jpg |
| 13:35 | gmcharlt | owen: in any event, that script uses CGI::scrolling_list, which atz and others have been steadily removing |
| 13:35 | so I don't expect this to last very long | |
| 13:35 | patches to remove scrolling_list whereever used welcome | |
| 13:36 | owen | paul_p: If snow is so rare, does no one know how to drive safely in it? |
| 13:37 | gmcharlt | shudders, even |
| 13:45 | paul_p | owen: yes, it's really fun to see the street totally empty. I came by foot to office (50mn), and saw 11 cars running (or trying to run for some of them) |
| 13:46 | danny | wow! |
| 13:46 | paul_p | + I heard some ppl complaining about the mayor, that didn't put salt on the streets... of course, Marseille don't have any equipment for that, and having them for once every 10 years would be tax consuming, but that wasn't taken into account by those crying ppl ! |
| 13:56 | nahuel | gmcharlt, hi |
| 13:56 | gmcharlt | hi nahuel |
| 13:56 | nahuel | what is the stuff you don't like in the zotero patch ? |
| 13:57 | gmcharlt | that it breaks save results to Zotero |
| 13:57 | nahuel | i tested with a marc21installation and it works well... |
| 13:58 | does it exists a "demo" MARC21 database I can get to test it ? | |
| 14:01 | gmcharlt | nahuel: I will send you a file of MARC21 bib records that I use for testing |
| 14:01 | nahuel | gmcharlt, cool thank you |
| 14:01 | i'll improve the marc21 record | |
| 14:01 | gmcharlt | for DB itself, just set up English and MARC21 and load all sample SQL scripts |
| 14:02 | nahuel | ok |
| 14:03 | gmcharlt | also, please validate the XHTML - I use the HTML Validator plugin for FF3 |
| 14:03 | nahuel | webdev plugin |
| 14:04 | gmcharlt, received | |
| 14:10 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: I have seen that bulkmarcimport uses defer_marc_save =>1 |
| 14:10 | This prevents update of marcxml data. | |
| 14:10 | gmcharlt: But marcxml data is then never updated.... Unless I miss something. | |
| 14:13 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: it's done in AddItemBatchFromMarc(), which calls ModBiblioMarc() |
| 14:17 | hdl_laptop | thx. |
| 14:17 | rather counter intuitive. | |
| 14:17 | But understandable. | |
| 14:41 | nahuel | gmcharlt, I imported the datas, but it seem working fine... |
| 14:41 | gmcharlt | what version of Zotero? |
| 14:42 | I'm using 1.0.9 | |
| 14:43 | nahuel | the same |
| 14:50 | just the 3rd notice have an incompatible record | |
| 15:13 | gmcharlt, oh you talked about search result ? | |
| 15:13 | gmcharlt | yes |
| 15:15 | nahuel | ok |
| 15:16 | I try on opac-details ;) | |
| 15:16 | i'm patching this | |
| 16:01 | liz | paul_p: that's a beautiful photo... are you going to make a snow man? |
| 16:01 | or snow angels (hehe) | |
| 16:01 | paul_p | my sons probably did one ;-) |
| 16:01 | liz | i can't wait for my munchkin to be old enough to go out and play in the snow |
| 17:14 | atz | paul_p: good point re: ldap in 2.2 |
| 17:14 | paul_p | thx ;-) |
| 17:33 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: around ? |
| 17:33 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: yes |
| 17:33 | hdl_laptop | hi |
| 17:34 | Question : about subdivisions for authorities. | |
| 17:34 | '180'=>{auth_type=>'GEN_SUBDIV'}, | |
| 17:34 | '181'=>{auth_type=>'GEO_SUBDIV'}, | |
| 17:34 | '182'=>{auth_type=>'CHRON_SUBD'}, | |
| 17:34 | '185'=>{auth_type=>'FORM_SUBD'}, | |
| 17:34 | Are those codes OK for you ? | |
| 17:35 | gmcharlt | sure |
| 17:36 | hdl_laptop | I have added authorities Import and update to bulkmarcimport. |
| 17:36 | But it requires to be able from the record data to be able to determine the authtypecode. | |
| 17:36 | So I added this stuff. | |
| 17:37 | gmcharlt: has anyone worked on that at LL ? | |
| 17:38 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: no, you have free reign |
| 17:38 | (but I'm confused: bulkmarcimport, or the staging import?) | |
| 17:39 | paul_p | gmcharlt: bulkmarcimport |
| 17:39 | (we are working for the 3 Marseille universities atm) | |
| 17:39 | (at least hdl and matthias for the data import) | |
| 17:40 | gmcharlt | then bulkauthimport is going away? |
| 17:40 | hdl_laptop | I think so. |
| 17:40 | It was deprecated anyway. | |
| 17:40 | paul_p | ok, time to try to go back home by foot for me (with 10cm snow) ;-) |
| 17:40 | gmcharlt | have fun, paul_p |
| 17:41 | paul_p | see you tomorrow guys (unless I broke a leg ;-) ) |
| 17:41 | gmcharlt | not sure it was actually deprecated, given that there was no alternative until now |
| 17:42 | in any event, I have no objection to having bulkmarcimport handle both bibs and authorities, as long as code is structured well | |
| 17:42 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: No. |
| 17:43 | I was wrong. | |
| 17:43 | bulkauthimport looks ok. | |
| 17:46 | But anyway, seems quite the same as what I did in bulkmarcimport. | |
| 17:48 | except that I added functions to AuthoritiesMarc.pm in order to guess authtypecode and get authid from record rather than putting it directly in bulkimport, thinking that we might need that somewhere els.. | |
| 17:49 | gmcharlt | I agree that that function belongs in C4 |
| 17:49 | hdl_laptop | And I manage Add And Modification. |
| 17:49 | (If exists. | |
| 17:49 | ) | |
| 17:49 | (for authorities only.) | |
| 17:49 | gmcharlt | C4::AuthoritiesMarc::MARC21 |
| 17:50 | C4;:AuthoritiesMarc::UNIMARC, perhaps | |
| 17:50 | cool | |
| 17:51 | hdl_laptop | so that you can tell what you think |
| 18:41 | jdavidb | rch: Sorry--was off at lunch. No, I've not updated nekls-test |
| 20:13 | atz | gmcharlt: should C4::Items::GetItemsInfo still return the marc and marcxml fields? |
| 20:14 | it seems to be unnecessary (for at least the staff details page) | |
| 20:14 | gmcharlt | no, it should |
| 20:15 | it should *not*, rather | |
| 20:15 | I pushed a patch from Michael a while back to remove that | |
| 20:15 | are there any consumers for GetItemsInfo that are still expecting it? | |
| 20:15 | atz | odd... i just rebased |
| 20:16 | i don't think anybody makes use of it (superficial review) | |
| 20:16 | just because there are better C4 API for getting a MARC::Record object from the DB | |
| 20:16 | chris | morning |
| 20:17 | gmcharlt | hi chris |
| 20:17 | atz | greets chris |
| 20:18 | http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]7180df892873bf601 | |
| 20:18 | my $query = "SELECT items.*,biblio.*, ..... | |
| 20:19 | i guess that is safe b/c it isn't biblioitems? | |
| 20:19 | gmcharlt | right |
| 20:19 | marc and marcxml are columns in biblioitems | |
| 20:19 | and that query doesn't retrieve them | |
| 20:20 | atz | yeah, it goes on to enumerate all the *other* biblioitems fields... ok it's making sense to me now |
| 20:45 | gmcharlt: do you want the patch via patches list? | |
| 20:46 | gmcharlt | atz: yes |
| 21:44 | danny | yay! after wrestling with IE7 and Firefox all day I think I finally got the javascript piece working correctly |
| 23:25 | chris | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPzWTM32FAw |
| 23:27 | but first, lunch | |
| 23:28 | SelfishMan | chris: I'm curious how *you* pronounce it |
| 23:35 | si | SelfishMan: he'd say it something like cor-Ha |
| 23:35 | cor as in apple core | |
| 23:35 | ha as in hard | |
| 23:36 | SelfishMan | Ha |
| 23:36 | si | I kid you not |
| 23:37 | that would be close to the standard Maori pronounciation | |
| 23:37 | SelfishMan | I don't doubt it |
| 23:37 | I think most peple see it and think more polynesian and pronounce it koh-ha | |
| 23:38 | si | yup |
| 23:39 | hawaiian and samoan have pretty similar vowel sounds | |
| 23:40 | but amongst his many other talents, chris has a degree in Maori, so he's more definitive than me | |
| 23:40 | SelfishMan | ha ha ha |
| 23:42 | gmcharlt | the distaff relative of MS Bob? ;) |
| 23:42 | SelfishMan | Yep! |
| 23:43 | I recently found a shrinkwrapped copy of it that I acquired years ago | |
| 23:54 | chris | samoan and hawaian would pronounce it the same as maori, same vowel sounds |
| 23:54 | as maori | |
| 23:55 | and spanish, and japanese | |
| 23:56 | SelfishMan | and that would be? |
| 23:56 | chris | i bet i can find someone saying it 2 secs |
| 23:57 | its hard to type it phonetically | |
| 23:57 | cos you guys pronounce english diff to us | |
| 23:57 | SelfishMan | I never thought I would hear that over four letters! |
| 23:59 | chris | that it was hard to type phonetically? youve never done any linguistics papers then eh? :) |
| 00:00 | SelfishMan | My linguistic skills apply to hearing spoken languages. I can pick up most languages rather quick but can't speak them to save my life |
| 00:00 | chris | http://www.korero.maori.nz/for[…]ronunciation.html |
| 00:00 | some mp3's of the vowel and consonant sounds there | |
| 00:02 | selfishman: can you speak spanish? | |
| 00:03 | SelfishMan | As long as I don't have to roll an R, yes |
| 00:03 | chris | koha in maori sounds almost identical to how you pronounce coja in spanish |
| 00:03 | SelfishMan | Ah. Ok |
| 07:44 | chris | evening |
| 07:44 | SelfishMan | morning |
| 08:19 | chris | hi hdl |
| 08:20 | galen sorted out gitosis for me, so i have been pushing updates to there | |
| 08:20 | hdl_laptop | cool. |
| 08:20 | mason | evening all |
| 08:21 | hdl_laptop | morning here.... ;p Good evening NZanders. |
| 08:22 | chris | i have a plan, that when you want to release I can tell you all the finished translations |
| 08:22 | hdl_laptop | I would like to release next week. |
| 08:22 | chris | and we can release with that, then ppl can keep translating and ill put up translated templates as they finish them |
| 08:23 | with instructions how to download them and copy them to the right place so people can use them | |
| 08:23 | that way we dont have to wait for every translation to finish before we release | |
| 08:24 | does that sound like a good idea? | |
| 08:25 | hdl_laptop | I am OK with that idea. |
| 08:26 | chris | cool |
| 08:26 | i figure that way, if someone comes along and wants to add a new language they wont have to wait for the next release either | |
| 08:28 | hdl_laptop | al the more that even if translation appear complete now, there are still some sentences missing. |
| 08:28 | chris | yeah |
| 08:28 | i think having language packs available for download, seperate to the main koha download will be quite useful | |
| 09:26 | hi paul | |
| 09:27 | paul_p | hi chris |
| 10:53 | nahuel | gmcharlt, zotero should work with marc21 and my new patch :) |
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