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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:57 | Roberto | Anyone available for installation help? |
| 12:58 | More specifically, for an error encountered? | |
| 13:09 | atz_ | Roberto: what error? |
| 13:10 | Roberto | Ah! Someone is awake! |
| 13:10 | Here it is: invalid type argument of ‘unary *’ | |
| 13:10 | Amit | yes |
| 13:10 | danny | hello #koha |
| 13:10 | Amit | tell me |
| 13:10 | i amit from india | |
| 13:10 | Roberto | It's during the "install Event" part of CPAN |
| 13:11 | Amit | then |
| 13:11 | atz_ | Roberto: never seen that one... |
| 13:12 | Roberto | Could be I'm missing a dependency of some sort, but so far, I've followed the Debian-related installation instructions exactly. |
| 13:12 | Then again, the documentation doesn't seem to be very current, since the instructions say Koha 2.2 and Debian Sarge. | |
| 13:13 | atz_ | you might try a manual process for that module, or look for a debian packaged binary |
| 13:13 | Amit | i am installed koha on RHEL |
| 13:13 | sory for that debian | |
| 13:13 | i have no idea on debian | |
| 13:14 | Roberto | atz, that would be great if I had any idea what it was or how it fit in, but I don't. Wait..... |
| 13:14 | Let me see if this is any different... | |
| 13:15 | I've been following the documentation from the kohadocs site... | |
| 13:16 | atz_ | INSTALL.debian should be the most current |
| 13:16 | Roberto | Since I still had to install Debian on this machine, anyway, I had followed the directions exactly, making sure I still had all the Debian things right. |
| 13:16 | atz_ | the binary package for Event would be libevent-perl, i think |
| 13:16 | Roberto | I had not downloaded Koha yet, but have since done so, and just discovered the INSTALL,Debian file you just mentioned. |
| 13:17 | Let me see if THOSE instructions help any more than the ones on the web. | |
| 13:18 | atz_ | Amit: you will want to use the same file: INSTALL.debian |
| 13:19 | Amit | hey atz i am on RHEL |
| 13:19 | not on debian | |
| 13:19 | acmoore | Roberto: where are the instructions for koha 2.2 and Sarge that you followed at first? I'd like to get those removed. |
| 13:21 | Roberto | AC, those are the ones under "English" in the "Installation" section at kohadocs |
| 13:21 | http://www.kohadocs.org/Instal[…]Debian_sarge.html | |
| 13:22 | There was nothing more current at kohadocs.org | |
| 13:24 | acmoore | Roberto: thanks. |
| 13:26 | atz_ | Amit: you may want to use the INSTALL.fedora7 document then |
| 13:26 | Amit | no |
| 13:27 | i have not studies any install documentation | |
| 13:27 | like fedora | |
| 13:27 | i already installed step by step | |
| 13:28 | like koha-2.2.5 to koha-3 stable | |
| 13:32 | Roberto | Should I be at all concerned that, during the step to install the debian-backports-keyring, it said it could not be authenticated? |
| 13:35 | atz_ | Roberto: not sure on that one... probably not a big deal |
| 13:35 | acmoore | Roberto: probably not. I think that the keyring is the thing that debian uses to authenticate its own packages. |
| 13:35 | it seems like you always get an error like that until you get the debian keys on your keyring or something like that. | |
| 13:36 | Roberto | That was my guess. Just checking. |
| 13:39 | Here's an off-the-wall question I've just never bothered to check... | |
| 13:40 | Some versions of UNIX shells have a "spell-check" feature built in to the "cd" command. | |
| 13:42 | For example, if a directory is named "koha" and you mistype the command as "cd kohs" it will ask you "koha?" instead of just giving an error message. Is that available in bash, at all? | |
| 14:15 | # Failed test 'connection to 'test.indexdata.com:2118' refused (10007)' | |
| 14:15 | # in t/16-packages.t at line 88. | |
| 14:18 | gmcharlt | Roberto: known issue - IndexData's test server is down at the moment |
| 14:18 | acmoore | Roberto: someone else reported that indexdata has recently changed their service, and that it's causeing failing tests, too. |
| 14:19 | Roberto | Judging from the rest of the line, it only appears to be some kind of test, not critical for continuation. |
| 14:27 | mc_ | hello world |
| 14:29 | Roberto | Hello, mc. |
| 14:29 | hdl | Amit ? |
| 14:51 | mc | does liblime tools share authentification ? |
| 14:52 | (i mean: i created an account on contrib.koha.org: can it work for bugs.* | |
| 14:52 | ?) | |
| 14:54 | acmoore | I don't think so. |
| 14:55 | mc | ok |
| 14:55 | so one more account ;) | |
| 14:56 | Roberto | Since our system will be so small, I will choose NOT to use Zebra. If, for some reason, Zebra becomes necessary later on, is it possible to "switch in on" at that time? |
| 14:57 | It is unlikely that we would need it, but I would just like to know, for future reference. | |
| 15:03 | paul | Roberto: you can switch zebra/nozebra when you want. |
| 15:04 | you just need to change a syspref and reindex your datas | |
| 15:04 | (using misc/migration_tools/rebuild(no)zebra.pl | |
| 15:29 | Roberto | Well, the installation is still going, so that's good. Just sitting back and waiting, now. |
| 15:32 | Failed 9/19 test scripts, 52.63% okay. 19/47 subtests failed, 59.57% okay. | |
| 15:33 | Is that because I said "no" to the earlier installation question about testing? | |
| 15:38 | acmoore | it should not be. Those questions are about a more extensive test suite. Koha runs a small one by default regardless of how you answer those questions. |
| 15:39 | I'd be interested in seeing which tests failed. I don't know of a good way for you to show me, though. | |
| 15:40 | gmcharlt | pastebin? |
| 15:55 | Roberto | Too late. I've already gone ahead and run the "sudo make install" |
| 15:56 | If there's a log that may contain that, I could try posting that. | |
| 16:12 | acmoore | one problem is that we don't run them with the '-v' flag, so there's not that much information shown on the display. another is that we don't really log it or anything so it can be sent in later. |
| 16:21 | Roberto | the "make install" seemed to make it through okay. |
| 16:21 | Now trying to figure out how to access the site. | |
| 16:22 | when I try "localhost:8080" as suggested, it just goes to the default site (i.e. "it works") and if I try the site name a couple different ways, it's just not found. | |
| 16:23 | Ah....getting there. | |
| 16:24 | shouldn't be "localhost:8080" but "library:8080" | |
| 16:24 | The following fatal error has occurred: | |
| 16:24 | Can't locate ZOOM.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/share/koha/lib /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 84. | |
| 16:24 | BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 84. | |
| 16:24 | Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Output.pm line 30. | |
| 16:24 | BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Output.pm line 30. | |
| 16:24 | Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/mainpage.pl line 23. | |
| 16:24 | BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/mainpage.pl line 23. | |
| 16:25 | This time, I'll wait for your reply, since I can't proceed any more. | |
| 16:28 | acmoore | I forget what that dependency is called. it's the Z3950 perl module. Is that Net::Z3950 or something like that? |
| 16:29 | Roberto | Wouldn't know. |
| 16:30 | acmoore | I think it's called Net::Z3950::ZOOM. |
| 16:31 | liz | hey #koha, can anybody tell me the status of bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2541 |
| 16:31 | acmoore | yeah, I guess I wasn't really asking you. That was more of a rhetorical question or something. Anyway, you're missing one of the dependnecies. |
| 16:31 | Roberto | Remember seeing something about ZOOM, somewhere in the instructions, but can't find it now....still looking. |
| 16:31 | Okay. That's it. | |
| 16:32 | Maybe something happened when I mentioned those earlier errors. Will try to CPAN that package again. | |
| 16:32 | Should I try the whole... | |
| 16:32 | sudo cpan MARC::Record Class::Accessor MARC::Charset MARC::File::XML \ | |
| 16:32 | Net::Z3950::ZOOM HTML::Template::Pro MARC::Crosswalk::DublinCore \ | |
| 16:32 | PDF::Reuse PDF::Reuse::Barcode Data::ICal GD::Barcode::UPCE \ | |
| 16:32 | XML::RSS Algorithm::CheckDigits::M43_001 Biblio::EndnoteStyle POE Schedule::At | |
| 16:33 | again, or just one part? | |
| 16:33 | gmcharlt | Roberto: try this |
| 16:33 | cpan | |
| 16:33 | then in cpan shell | |
| 16:33 | install Net::Z3950::ZOOM | |
| 16:33 | if you get the same test errors, then do | |
| 16:33 | force install Net::Z3950::ZOOM | |
| 16:33 | (and actually, that would be 'sudo cpan', of course) | |
| 16:34 | Roberto | It's doing it now. |
| 16:36 | liz | atz: any info on bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2541 ? |
| 16:42 | atz | liz: i've looked at it, been breaking SIP into smaller cases w/ tests. it looks like the initial implementation had hardcoded 2 week due date to avoid having to check. |
| 16:45 | working on it further this afternoon | |
| 16:48 | liz | excellent thanks atz |
| 16:59 | Roberto | Sorry - got sidetracked on a phone call. |
| 17:00 | Had to force the install. It still complained about a couple of things (examples to follow), but at least I'm getting something in my browser now. | |
| 17:00 | Examples: # Failed test 'database creation 'wapkjqcjba'' | |
| 17:01 | (several other things associated with that) | |
| 17:01 | # Looks like you failed 11 tests of 41 run. | |
| 17:01 | t/26-packages...........dubious | |
| 17:01 | Test returned status 11 (wstat 2816, 0xb00) | |
| 17:01 | DIED. FAILED tests 3, 5, 7, 10, 13-14, 24, 29, 33, 37, 40-41 | |
| 17:01 | Failed 12/40 tests, 70.00% okay | |
| 17:08 | acmoore | gmcharlt: have database versions v3.01.00.002 and v3.01.00.003 not been submitted yet? |
| 17:09 | Roberto | Well, the web installer is working, so far. Any suggestions on choosing a flavour of MARC? It may not even matter here. |
| 17:09 | gmcharlt | acmoore: not yet (at least, not in a appliable form) |
| 17:09 | acmoore: I have notified Jesse | |
| 17:10 | acmoore | aha. OK. I was just wondering about the funny use of the database revision wiki page. |
| 17:10 | atz | Roberto: MARC21 is more US, UNIMARC is more Europe |
| 17:11 | acmoore | perhaps the pending or upcoming database changes should be listed there with no database version number or something like that. |
| 17:12 | Roberto | Well, Honduras (Central America) tends to have more U.S. connections, so MARC21 should probably be better. As I said: we are so small the MARC side of things may neve even get used. |
| 17:21 | The installation appears to be complete. Now I just have to figure out how to use this beast - and then teach the people in the school how to use it. | |
| 17:25 | Still seeing lots of references to "Koha," including a logo containing the word. Since this is a Spanish-speaking country, how do I get rid of that, as suggested by the koha FAQ (since "koha" sounds like "coja," which means "lame")? | |
| 17:27 | gmcharlt | Roberto: heh - reminds me of the story of the Chevy Nova |
| 17:29 | Roberto | Which is actually apocryphal. |
| 17:30 | If it were two separate words ("no va") it would mean "doesn't go" or the like, but as a single word, it's just another Latin root meaning "new" | |
| 17:30 | In fact, in Mexico, the Nova was a VERY popular car, and people were not the least put off by the supposedly problematic name. | |
| 17:32 | gmcharlt | Roberto: yeah, I had heard that it was an urban legend |
| 17:33 | Roberto | http://www.snopes.com/business/misxlate/nova.asp |
| 17:34 | In any case, IS there a way to change "Koha" to something else for staff and patrons? | |
| 17:35 | For me, it doesn't matter: I'm an American who helps them with these things. The staff and students have Spanish as their first language, however. | |
| 17:43 | ...or would it be necessary for me to create a different graphic for the logo, etc.? | |
| 18:11 | gmcharlt | a new graphic, I would think |
| 18:13 | Roberto | Okay. In other words, there are no aleady-customisable settings for this? |
| 19:01 | Okay. Tried a few things, but am NOT that familiar with this end of Apache management. How do I make koha the default page to come up when someone on the LAN just types the system name or IP address? | |
| 19:13 | hdl | ryan: around ? |
| 19:15 | Roberto | Haven't seen much response in a while, hdl. |
| 19:20 | hdl | ryan: never mind. was a question about biblio.serial and its management when no subfield attached |
| 19:21 | Roberto: just make it on port 80 like default website on debian? | |
| 19:21 | Roberto | hdl, I'm not familiar enough with that. |
| 19:22 | hdl | it is explained in INSTALL.debian, iirc. |
| 19:22 | Roberto | I've tried variations of the ensite dissite commands, that are in INSTALL.debian, but those are not for default, but want a different site name. |
| 19:23 | THOSE settings worked, but now I'd like them to be the default. | |
| 19:26 | atz | Roberto: you can't force a remote system to connect to you by system name |
| 19:27 | (it can be done, if the system is configured correctly, but you can't make it happen) | |
| 19:27 | Roberto | By system name, I simply meant that the DNS and/or host files would handle it. |
| 19:28 | atz | the VirtualHost definitions specify what apache responds to |
| 19:28 | Roberto | That part is immaterial. The question is how to make koha the default thing that someone sees, regardless of how they actually connect. |
| 19:29 | Let me see what I can find about VirtualHost | |
| 19:29 | atz | Put asterisks in, like <VirtualHost *> |
| 19:29 | then comment out NameVirtualHost | |
| 19:31 | Roberto | Ah. Well, I've actually done those things, but all I keep getting, now, when I try to point to (for example) 127.0.0.1 is the XML. |
| 19:31 | (or at least that's what it looks like) | |
| 19:33 | Maybe I'm not changing ENOUGH in the VirtualHost section. I have the following changed: | |
| 19:33 | DocumentRoot /etc/koha/ | |
| 19:33 | DirectoryIndex /koha-httpd.conf | |
| 19:34 | Just about everything else is the same as the default file already was, except for commenting out NameVirtualHost. | |
| 19:35 | Wait.... | |
| 19:36 | Am looking more closely... That isn't XML - it looks like suggested VirtualHost settings. | |
| 19:41 | Well, it was, but they didn't help - at least not yet. | |
| 19:43 | I think I'm just pointing to the wrong place. | |
| 19:45 | djmaster | hola |
| 19:45 | Roberto | Hola. Que tal? |
| 19:46 | atz, I found it. | |
| 19:46 | atz | Roberto: DirectoryIndex is a separate thing |
| 19:47 | should not point to your config file | |
| 19:47 | Roberto | That had just been a guess from other info I had found. |
| 19:47 | got it working now. | |
| 19:47 | atz | cool |
| 19:49 | Roberto | For some, oddball reason, the settings that were coming up from koha said "127.0.1.1" instead if "127.0.0.1" but I changed those references to "*" as you had indicated, and it worked. |
| 19:57 | Small detail: is there a way to make our defined library the default value on the 8080 screen, instead of having it say "My Library" and forcing someone to select? | |
| 19:57 | Don't see that in any settings, so far. | |
| 20:17 | djmaster | hola roberto |
| 20:19 | atz | Roberto: that just means that it takes the library from the account the user is logging in with |
| 20:20 | that is almost always the correct one | |
| 20:24 | Roberto | When I log in with "My Library" it says I have no library selected. When I log in with the library I've defined, it uses that, without requiring additional selection of the library. |
| 20:40 | djmaster | hello I have a problem with the module Net: Z3950: ZOOM, I can not install |
| 20:41 | someone has idea that might be happening?? | |
| 20:43 | gmcharlt | djmaster: is it failing during the test suite |
| 20:43 | djmaster | no |
| 20:44 | Thatcher_Rea | atz you there? |
| 20:44 | djmaster | failure at the time of installation |
| 20:45 | chris | whats the error? |
| 20:45 | djmaster | wait |
| 20:45 | chris | ohh 7am saturday for the meeting, that works |
| 20:46 | acmoore | chris: doesn't sound like the most convenient time for you, but I'm glad you can make it |
| 20:46 | chris | acmoore: i may have a toddler squirming on my lap, but ill make it |
| 20:59 | gmcharlt | chris: heh - and I may well have a cat on mine |
| 21:00 | chris | :) |
| 21:01 | djmaster | This is the fault http://pgsql.privatepaste.com/291aryln1E |
| 21:02 | gmcharlt | djmaster: there is a known, recent issue with the ZOOM test suite |
| 21:02 | chris | ah yes, its the tests failing |
| 21:02 | gmcharlt | a force install should be safe |
| 21:02 | chris | what gmcharlt said :) |
| 21:02 | djmaster | ok |
| 21:02 | gmcharlt | the issue is that a server used for the network portion of the test is offline at moment |
| 21:15 | djmaster | wait moment please |
| 21:18 | This is the error after cpan > force install Net::Z3950::ZOOM, http://pgsql.privatepaste.com/3b1RhR0vcj | |
| 21:19 | gmcharlt | djmaster: was module installed anyway, though? i.e., does perl -e 'use ZOOM;' work? |
| 21:21 | djmaster | everything is fine?? |
| 21:23 | MARC::Record Class::Accessor MARC::Charset MARC::File::XML \ HTML::Template::Pro MARC::Crosswalk::DublinCore | |
| 21:23 | PDF::Reuse PDF::Reuse::Barcode Data::ICal GD::Barcode::UPCE \ | |
| 21:23 | XML::RSS Algorithm::CheckDigits::M43_001 Biblio::EndnoteStyle POE Schedule::At | |
| 21:34 | if I do not speak English, someone could help in Spanish | |
| 21:39 | Roberto | In a school setting, would there be any good reason to set a patron category for each grade, or isn't that level of division necessary? |
| 21:42 | gmcharlt | Roberto: not unless you have different loan periods for each grade |
| 21:42 | you can use extended patron attributes to keep track of the grade levels for reporting purposes | |
| 21:44 | Roberto | Okay. Thanks. |
| 00:58 | gmcharlt | si: about? |
| 01:00 | chris | they are on holiday, snowboarding and such |
| 01:01 | gmcharlt | chris: thx. somethings preventing CGI::IRC from connecting to irc.katipo.co.nz - try to figure out if we're being blocked on the LL or Katipo end |
| 01:03 | chris | well from the katipo end, it cant tell |
| 01:03 | its just another client hitting on port 6667 | |
| 01:04 | gmcharlt | right, but they theoretically could be blocking that IP address for some reason |
| 01:04 | not likely | |
| 01:04 | chris | try telnet irc.katipo.co.nz 6667 |
| 01:04 | from the machine | |
| 01:04 | gmcharlt | times out |
| 01:05 | chris | but you can get to other irc servers? |
| 01:05 | gmcharlt | also times out for irc.freenode.net 6667 |
| 01:05 | chris | *nod* |
| 01:05 | mason | ah |
| 01:05 | gmcharlt | so probably on our end |
| 01:06 | chris | yeah, i can telnet to both from a variety of machines |
| 01:06 | gmcharlt | heh |
| 01:06 | chris | so i suspect some outbound filtering is going on |
| 01:06 | gmcharlt | would definitely explain lack of CGI-foo nicks for the past few weeks :) |
| 01:06 | chris | probably some retarded isp trying to stop p2p |
| 01:06 | mason | hmm, how to debug that :( |
| 01:06 | chris | by blocking high ports |
| 01:07 | gmcharlt | given number of DOS attacks on pippin on late, it may be that Clay decided to lock down outbound and missed the CGI::IRC app |
| 01:07 | I'll find out tomorrow | |
| 01:07 | chris | *nod* |
| 01:09 | gmcharlt | hey mason :) |
| 01:09 | mason | u keeping busy over there galen |
| 01:09 | gmcharlt | just a little bit :) |
| 01:10 | how are you doing? | |
| 01:10 | mason | getting there... |
| 01:11 | wearing many hats! | |
| 01:12 | gmcharlt | mason: http://delivermagazine.com/wp-[…]nview-by_acme.jpg |
| 01:13 | mason | very timely |
| 01:16 | ok, back to it.. | |
| 02:05 | gmc_test | temporary test of CGI::IRC |
| 02:05 | chris | that worked |
| 02:05 | gmcharlt | kinda sorta |
| 02:05 | interposing an SSH tunnel | |
| 02:06 | chris | right |
| 02:06 | bodgey :) |
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