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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 15:20 | Kyle | Hey all. Is there an easy way to update a single field for a single item in 3.0/dev_week? I want write a script so our librarians can scan a set of books and have the Shelving Location updated to either 'On Display' or 'On Shelf'. If I were to update the MARC blob in the MySQL database, would those changes make their way into Zebra, or does it only go the other way? |
| 15:21 | The Shelving Location being 952 c. | |
| 15:25 | liz | another question: is there a "shelf list" report? |
| 15:26 | Kyle | liz: Which version of Koha are you using? |
| 15:26 | liz | 3.0 |
| 15:28 | Kyle | You should be able to create your own shelf list report using the Reports Wizard if there isn't on there already. |
| 15:29 | liz | i thought that might be the answer :) |
| 17:19 | liblime folks: is there a reason our connectivity to our install would be very slow? | |
| 17:19 | (nekls) | |
| 17:19 | nvm i'll call | |
| 17:22 | Roberto | Hello. Have not even downloaded Koha yet, but have four questions before I do, to make sure I understand correctly and have what is necessary. |
| 17:24 | danny | hi Roberto |
| 17:24 | Roberto | 1) We are a small school in a third-world country, and don't have very many students or books in contrast to some of your installations. Would a Pentium III 1GHz with 512MB RAM and Debian Etch be sufficient? |
| 17:24 | Hello, Danny. | |
| 17:25 | atz | Roberto: probably, yes |
| 17:25 | performance won't be great, but Koha has been tested and run on virtual machines with 512 MBs of RAM (or less) | |
| 17:26 | Roberto | 2) Given our location and situation, machines are at a premium, so would it be possible to use the server machine as the actual circulation machine within the library (we won't be using this live on the web)? In other words, just point the browser to the selfsame machine? |
| 17:28 | Another package I've considered (Evergreen - hope that's not a dirty word here - LOL!) has a separate "staff client" module. Is anything like that necessary for Koha, or just a browser? | |
| 17:28 | (oops - that was #3) | |
| 17:28 | atz | evergreen's circ client is a custom mozilla client |
| 17:28 | koha uses any modern browser | |
| 17:28 | preferably firefox | |
| 17:28 | Roberto | My preference, anyway. :-) |
| 17:29 | atz | Roberto: yes, you can run circ on the "server" box, pointing the browser to localhost |
| 17:29 | in that case, you might need more RAM, since running the linux desktop and browser add significant load | |
| 17:30 | Roberto | 4) The Koha FAQ suggests using a name OTHER than "Koha" in Spanish-speaking countries (I'm in Honduras). How would one actually make that change so that "Koha" which, as the FAQ states, is too similar to "coja," can be something else? |
| 17:30 | atz | lol... i didn't think of that |
| 17:31 | Roberto | Okay on the RAM. No problem. |
| 17:31 | atz | i think there is a system preference for library name that will be inserted in the page title if populated (instead of Koha) |
| 17:31 | Roberto | Ah. |
| 17:31 | atz | of course some things will still say Koha, but not every page |
| 17:32 | Roberto | Have searched the liblime demos for such a thing, but couldn't find one. |
| 17:33 | Okay. Yes. Considering some of the other, live sites, it would appear only something at the bottom (i.e. "Powered by...") would still say "Koha." | |
| 17:34 | atz | right |
| 17:34 | LibraryNameTitle is the system pref. | |
| 17:34 | it mostly affects the opac | |
| 17:34 | Roberto | Cool. |
| 17:36 | I'm not sure how many books we have, but it's not very many. We have about 300 students. That COULD go up to 400 or so when we finally add grades 10-12, but it's still not many. | |
| 17:38 | Hoping this is not taboo, but do you have any words of wisdom re: a comparison of Koha, Evergreen, Athenaeum, and any other systems (if there are others)? | |
| 17:39 | Athenaeum, of course, isn't open source, but they do allow free use of an older version of their software. Even so, it runs under Windows, and needs "FileMaker." | |
| 17:39 | atz | Koha scales "down" the best |
| 17:39 | Roberto | Evergreen makes some interesting claims versus Koha, but doesn't really seem to be "all there." |
| 17:39 | atz | OPAC runs w/o js |
| 17:40 | Evergreen has good development in load-balancing for very large installations | |
| 17:40 | Roberto | That does seem to be their target. |
| 17:40 | atz | it was designed to replace Unicorn w/ 250+ libraries in a consortium |
| 17:40 | running on a Sun E10000 mainframe | |
| 17:41 | so it does that rather well | |
| 17:41 | Roberto | THe only Sun we get here is over the Caribbean. LOL! |
| 17:42 | Actually, most of the equipment we have is second-hand, and donated from one or more churches in the U.S. Unfortunately, much of it may also be considered "junk for Jesus," if you know what I mean, so we cobble together what we can with what we get. | |
| 17:43 | atz | at least maybe you can make some frankenstein boxen |
| 17:43 | Roberto | Actually, that's probably an even BETTER reason to chose something Linux based, since it will, generally, run better on such machines than Win Xp. |
| 17:43 | Have a few of those, too. | |
| 17:43 | atz | like stuff all the ram from 4 boxes in one |
| 17:44 | Roberto | Sometimes that works. Other times, they're different simms, and not compatible among machines. |
| 17:45 | We even have some older machines upon which I would not ever consider putting XP - they run Win98SE. | |
| 17:46 | If nothing else, one of those could be a "client" machine, since it would only have to use the browser. | |
| 17:49 | One more question: If I remember correctly, the documentation mentions Debian "Sarge" which is, of course, an older distribution. Are there any special considerations for "Etch"? | |
| 17:56 | atz | Roberto: afaik, the standard linux distro for Koha is currently Etch |
| 17:56 | Roberto | Great. |
| 17:56 | atz | the INSTALL.debian file for 3.0 is written on etch |
| 17:58 | brendan | One other comment about Koha vs. Evergreen -- Koha seems to be the more mature product (older, been around longer than Evergreen) if that means anything to you |
| 17:58 | Roberto | Okay, then. I'm on my way to download this and give it a shot. Thank you for all your assistance. |
| 17:58 | Notice that, too. | |
| 17:58 | *Noticed | |
| 17:59 | In this case, that aspect may not be quite as important as it may be for others, but it was something I noticed. | |
| 18:01 | Thanks again! | |
| 18:01 | Bye for now. | |
| 18:02 | pianohacker | Of course, mature can be a double-edged sword, as a trip through the fines or circulation modules can tell you ;) |
| 18:03 | atz | they're a bit... "ripe" |
| 18:20 | rhcl | "Koha ...and first deployed in January of 2000". (koha.org). Eight years old now. Yea, time to ditch this effort and start on something new. :) |
| 18:30 | atz | rhcl: maybe get some carnegie money or something :\ |
| 18:34 | rhcl | Wonder how rich a person would have to be today to fund what Carnegie did in the early 1900's? |
| 18:35 | pianohacker | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_carnegie |
| 18:35 | Right-hand sidebar | |
| 18:57 | atz | pianohacker++ # that's a ton of coin |
| 20:44 | chris | morning |
| 20:45 | gmcharlt | hi chris |
| 06:49 | Amit | hi |
| 06:49 | list | |
| 06:49 | any one is there | |
| 06:49 | to solve one query | |
| 06:49 | there is a bug in koha stable | |
| 06:49 | koha-3 stable | |
| 07:05 | hdl | Amit: |
| 07:05 | I am. | |
| 07:06 | Amit | hi |
| 07:08 | r u there | |
| 07:11 | there is a problem in koha -3 | |
| 07:11 | stable | |
| 07:15 | have u checked with mutiple branches with koha stable | |
| 07:15 | koha -3 stable | |
| 07:17 | any one is there | |
| 07:17 | for response | |
| 07:20 | hdl | what is your problem ? |
| 07:21 | I have multiple instances of multiple branch koha 3 installation. | |
| 07:21 | Amit | there is availibilty problem in koha 3 |
| 07:21 | suppose we have 3 branches in library | |
| 07:22 | hdl | what type on configuration are you on ? |
| 07:22 | Linux ? Windows ? | |
| 07:22 | Amit | i m on linux rhel |
| 07:22 | hdl | What kind of framework ? MARC21 ? UNIMARC ? |
| 07:22 | Amit | MARC21 |
| 07:23 | say | |
| 07:23 | central library | |
| 07:23 | south library | |
| 07:23 | east library | |
| 07:23 | the copies are availible in all the three library | |
| 07:23 | but it would show only one library in opac page or in staff page | |
| 07:24 | Availability: Copies available at: Central library (1), | |
| 07:24 | hdl | means you have copies of the books in ALL the three libraries ? |
| 07:24 | Amit | other will not shown |
| 07:24 | yes | |
| 07:24 | it would show like this | |
| 07:24 | Availability: Copies available at: Central librayr(1), east library(1), south library(1) | |
| 07:25 | like this | |
| 07:25 | this is the correct way to show | |
| 07:25 | but it show | |
| 07:25 | Availability: Copies available at: Central library (1), | |
| 07:25 | this | |
| 07:25 | hdl | Do you have 3 items, one at each library ? |
| 07:25 | Amit | yes |
| 07:26 | have u tested this | |
| 07:26 | hdl | of course. |
| 07:26 | Amit | in koha -3 stable |
| 07:26 | hdl | In UNIMARC there is no problem |
| 07:26 | Amit | k |
| 07:26 | i will tested this on unimarc | |
| 07:26 | if u say | |
| 07:26 | this is right | |
| 07:26 | for me | |
| 07:27 | plz gudie me | |
| 07:27 | plz guide me | |
| 07:27 | hdl | http://o14.hdlaurent.paulpoula[…]koha/opac-main.pl |
| 07:27 | look for particules. | |
| 07:27 | Amit | ok |
| 07:27 | u check this | |
| 07:27 | at delhi public library site | |
| 07:27 | of my | |
| 07:28 | http:59.176.17.111 | |
| 07:28 | sory | |
| 07:28 | http://59.176.17.111 | |
| 07:28 | this is ip | |
| 07:28 | i have made a new in zebra | |
| 07:29 | hdl | which book ? |
| 07:29 | Amit | Programming in ANSI C |
| 07:30 | this availbilty are in karol bagh and central library | |
| 07:30 | but it show only | |
| 07:30 | central library in front page | |
| 07:32 | have u searched this book | |
| 07:34 | hdl | was looking at maha* |
| 07:35 | Amit | Magical stories:in the King's shoes & the smelly little dog |
| 07:35 | search this book | |
| 07:35 | on itemtype | |
| 07:35 | book | |
| 07:35 | click on check box only | |
| 07:35 | go to advance search | |
| 07:35 | the select | |
| 07:36 | hdl | searching on Programining in ANSI C shows 3 results, |
| 07:36 | each one have different library. | |
| 07:37 | Amit : I guess there is a problem in the migration process. | |
| 07:37 | Amit | no |
| 07:37 | hdl | It doesnot look like a Koha problem. |
| 07:37 | Amit | i have tested this |
| 07:37 | by download the record from library of congress | |
| 07:38 | the i import | |
| 07:38 | yes | |
| 07:38 | it show this book on three library on the front page na | |
| 07:39 | hdl | Normally, you should have 1 bibliographic record for Programming in ANSI C you have 3. |
| 07:39 | Amit | yes |
| 07:39 | bibliographic record is one | |
| 07:39 | but availibilty in three branches | |
| 07:39 | hdl | No. |
| 07:39 | Amit | the three not shown in the front page |
| 07:40 | hdl | look at the OPAC : |
| 07:40 | Amit | yes |
| 07:40 | i will see | |
| 07:40 | hdl | Programing in ANSI C by Balagurusamy, E. |
| 07:40 | biblionumbers : 5448 1996 3117 | |
| 07:40 | Amit | k |
| 07:41 | hdl | That is not one, that is 3. |
| 07:41 | Amit | ok |
| 07:41 | but | |
| 07:41 | when u click advance search | |
| 07:41 | option | |
| 07:41 | then click | |
| 07:41 | book | |
| 07:42 | check bok | |
| 07:42 | check box | |
| 07:42 | the first book show | |
| 07:42 | Magical stories:in the King's shoes & the smelly little dog | |
| 07:42 | copies :20 | |
| 07:42 | but it would show only one library name | |
| 07:43 | hdl | And it seems that you donot have owner library and holding library set. |
| 07:43 | only holding library. | |
| 07:43 | Amit | k |
| 07:43 | hdl | imho, this causes the problem. |
| 07:44 | Amit | change in system preferences |
| 07:44 | options | |
| 07:44 | so what can i do for solve this issuse | |
| 07:44 | but in koha | |
| 07:44 | beta it would work fine | |
| 07:44 | it shows all library name | |
| 07:44 | in opac page | |
| 07:45 | hdl | get back to 3 beta then. |
| 07:45 | Amit | no |
| 07:45 | i think there is a problem in koha modules | |
| 07:46 | in beta version | |
| 07:46 | it would show all the availability of library | |
| 07:46 | hdl | is there some system preference you changed ? |
| 07:47 | Amit | which one? |
| 07:50 | changes are made in HomeOrHoldingBranch? | |
| 07:53 | hdl | without having acces to database, it is difficult for me to know exactly what is going wrong, but from what I can see, this problem comes not from koha Code but from data or some system preference |
| 07:54 | Amit | k |
| 07:54 | i will give u rights | |
| 07:56 | http://www.openlx.in:8090/ | |
| 07:56 | this is the ip | |
| 07:56 | login | |
| 07:56 | with | |
| 07:56 | kohaadmin | |
| 07:56 | passwd | |
| 07:56 | amit | |
| 07:56 | sory | |
| 07:56 | amit123 | |
| 07:56 | check | |
| 07:56 | this | |
| 07:57 | and opac are available http://www.openlx.in:8080/ | |
| 07:57 | have u noted this | |
| 07:58 | if u made any changes | |
| 07:58 | then say | |
| 07:58 | i will reindexed the zebra |
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