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Time | Nick | Message |
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12:19 | nengard | okay spelling question - is it: anonymize or anonomize ?? neither is in the dictionary - and we use them both |
12:22 | nicomo | anonymize (see anonymity) |
12:23 | I think | |
12:24 | nengard | nicomo i thought so too |
12:29 | paul | hdl, est-ce que l'anti spam est bien en route sur le netserver ? Parce que je recois des zillions de mails "euro dice casino" depuis quelques temps. |
12:29 | ca lasse... | |
12:29 | (et aussi des "pillules bon marche", et autres trucs du même genre) | |
12:37 | js | depuis que tu as annoncé que ta famille etait assez grande, j ai fait passé le message paul ;) |
12:38 | paul | oups... sorry, I thought I was on another channel... |
13:08 | slef | c'est pas grave |
13:09 | c'est assez interessant pour moi ;-) | |
13:09 | nengard: y | |
13:09 | nengard | thanks slef - i found it in a different dictionary |
13:10 | slef | nengard: I have a collins paper dictionary on my desk |
13:11 | BTW, I'm in a world of pain today. One server with a reinstall when I was expecting an upgrade, another server defaced (I'd been telling its owner we needed to take it offline for a security upgrade). Send sympathy here. ;-) | |
13:11 | So sorry if I'm short/late/grumpy. | |
13:11 | kados | slef: you, grumpy? ;-) |
13:12 | slef | kados: I'm usually cheerful but short/abrupt. |
13:12 | kados | *nod* |
13:13 | slef | I'm sure there's a reason why I don't usually do this ;-) |
14:07 | hdl | hug to slef. |
14:21 | slef | thanks... it's the reinstall I'm more miffed about... last time that customer got defaced was December 2004, which I don't think is a bad innings |
15:14 | cnighs | paul about? |
15:14 | paul | yep |
15:14 | hi cnighs | |
15:15 | cnighs | hi paul, could you help me understand the relationships between the serial and serialitems tables? |
15:15 | paul | hdl could be more helpfull here I think |
15:15 | hdl ? | |
15:16 | hdl | hi cnighs |
15:16 | cnighs | hello hdl |
15:16 | hdl | ryan designed this. |
15:17 | In order to be able to receive, afaik, multiple items of an issue. | |
15:17 | Why do you ask ? | |
15:18 | So It is a 1 to many relation | |
15:18 | 1 serial many itemnumber | |
15:18 | cnighs | currently things break when attempting to receive duplicate items of a particular issue of a given serial |
15:18 | ie. a library has two copies of the same issue of a magazine | |
15:20 | this appears to be because AddItem2Serial attempts to insert a duplicate value into serialitems.serialid | |
15:21 | 1 serial to many itemnumber is what I was looking to confirm, though | |
15:22 | tnx hdl, paul | |
15:25 | paul | (clicking on the menu does nothing at all) |
15:26 | (renew patron & delete works fine, only set permission unreachable) | |
15:26 | mmm... gotcha | |
15:27 | if the librarian don't have permission to set permissions, the link is here, but un-clickable | |
15:48 | ryan | cnighs: actually, serialitems is supposed to be 1-1 short term, and was added to avoid having to change the items table, as well as future functionality of 1-n relation. |
15:48 | but for 3.0, there should be 1-1 relation. | |
15:51 | cnighs | ryan: so for 3.0 if I have two copies of the same issue of the same magazine, I cannot have two corresponding serialitems? |
15:52 | ryan | cnighs: there _shouldn't_ be a problem, but the functionality to create the items doesn't exist. |
16:59 | saorge | which MARC21 fields must be filled to add an item when I import a bibliographic records via bulkmarkimport? |
18:20 | kados | saorge: check your framework, normally 952 |
18:22 | saorge | kados: thanks! |
18:24 | finally, it was a problem from my MARC file, some subfields were missing | |
19:31 | hdl | what are those minus meant for in addbiblio.tmpl ? |
19:31 | pianohacker | hdl: There's minus buttons for some tags to remove them from the record |
19:32 | hdl | hi pianohacker have we ever met ? |
19:32 | pianohacker | hdl: I don't think so; I recognize you from the irc regulars wiki page, but I'm Jesse Weaver from LibLime |
19:33 | hdl | nice to meet you. |
19:33 | pianohacker | you too |
19:33 | hdl | hdl Henri-Damien LAURENT from biblibre. |
19:33 | pianohacker | Are those the minus buttons you meant? |
19:34 | hdl | yes. But it doesnot seem to do anything on blank record. |
19:35 | pianohacker | I know there are some tags that are mandatory and thus deleteable |
19:35 | and if you remove the last instance of a tag, you can't put anything in (blank tags are ignored) | |
19:37 | hdl | seemed strange to me to see so many -. |
19:37 | Since both fields and subfields can be deleted. | |
19:38 | But acknowledge it is really cool. | |
19:38 | gmcharlt | hdl: if a given field/subfield input box is the last instance, clicking minus clears it instead of removing the input form |
19:38 | hdl: otherwise, you wouldn't be able to add it back without reloading the form | |
19:44 | hdl | ok. |
20:08 | su-erin | any tips for trouble shooting this upgrade from .064 to .094 on ubuntu 7.10: Can't open blib/ZEBRA_CONF_DIR/etc/passwd for read at rewrite-config.PL line 168. |
20:09 | trying to get the test server upgraded so we can continue configuring it once, well once "paper work" is done | |
20:09 | hdl | su-erin: normally, you only have to use the webupgrade. |
20:10 | su-erin | hdl: i still have SO much too learn... sorry |
20:10 | hdl | np |
20:12 | su-erin | hdl: where is the webupgrade interface? |
20:12 | hdl | go to intranet. |
20:13 | And you are prompted to webupgrade. | |
20:13 | su-erin | where does it propmt you? |
20:21 | hdl | it leads you to webinstaller. |
20:21 | You have to enter your login/password. | |
20:21 | and then go through update. | |
20:39 | slef | su-erin: it usually appears instead of the login screen. |
20:40 | su-erin: what command produces the above error? | |
20:42 | chris | ata marie |
20:42 | (maori language week here in nz this week) | |
20:59 | hi liz | |
20:59 | liz | hiyas |
21:07 | adamaix | hi |
21:08 | gmcharlt | hi adamix |
21:08 | admaix, rather | |
21:09 | adamaix | no worries :p ,I have to say, koha is probably one of the most promising opensource library application |
21:10 | been trying now for the past three days getting it to work on freebsd, though | |
21:11 | gmcharlt | what's the issue? |
21:11 | chris | 3.0.0rc1 adamaix? |
21:11 | adamaix | yep |
21:12 | i've got all the perl libraries installed, most of them via the perl ports collection | |
21:12 | atz_ | adamaix: nobody's tried bsds yet, afaik |
21:12 | adamaix | some of the libraries weren't available in the ports, so i retrieved them from MCPAN |
21:12 | slef | adamaix: come on, if I can get it working on osx, freebsd should be doable (modulo mysqladmin shell evilness by the installer *glares*) |
21:13 | adamaix | i was reading the osx documentation :p |
21:13 | slef | There's osx documentation? |
21:13 | ;) | |
21:13 | chris | slef just hammers madly on the keyboard and sometimes it works :) |
21:13 | gmcharlt | slef: you mean the documentation you're writing, correct? ;) |
21:14 | adamaix | stuck here > http://pastebin.com/m22241a7d |
21:14 | slef | gmcharlt: I don't see what documentation it needs... just use apt-get and cpan install and it works. |
21:15 | adamaix | i've seen a fwe issues similer to this on the list |
21:15 | slef | adamaix: got PERL5LIB set and exported |
21:15 | ? | |
21:16 | chris | oh, failing tests .. thats pretty much a given, the test suite is still a work in progress |
21:19 | gmcharlt | adamix: in the full test log, does the 'Can't connect to data source' error occur every time it complains about failing to compile modules? |
21:22 | adamaix | yes |
21:22 | i've run export PERL5LIB="/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8" and make test again | |
21:22 | same error | |
21:23 | slef | apt-get install $(sed -n -e "/PREREQ_PM =/,/}/{;s/^[ ']*//;s/::/-/g;s/'.*\$/-pm588/;/-.*-pm588/p;}" Makefile.PL | tr A-Z a-z) |
21:23 | pianohacker | Oh my god |
21:23 | atz_ | adamaix: PERL5LIB is supposed to be your koha repo |
21:23 | slef | (I don't recommend that, but I just wanted to share it) |
21:24 | gmcharlt | adamaix: in your installation directory, does blib/KOHA_CONF_DIR/koha-conf.xml exist? if so, could you pastebin the last 20 lines or so of it (excluding your db password, of course) |
21:24 | adamaix | yes |
21:28 | http://pastebin.com/m35e36159 | |
21:29 | earliy i've tried setting the enviroment variables as specified in the error | |
21:29 | gmcharlt | ok, there's part of your problem - when you do a 'make' prior to running 'make test', it should have substituted in the correct values in place of the __DB_NAME__, etc placeholders |
21:31 | adamaix | ah, that make sense, so should i try manually editing the file? |
21:31 | atz_ | no, it will take you forever to edit everything |
21:32 | gmcharlt | adamaix: first try 'make blib/KOHA_CONF_DIR/koha-conf.xml' and see if it gives you a message about running rewrite-config.PL |
21:34 | adamaix | usr/bin/perl "-Iblib/arch" "-Iblib/lib" rewrite-config.PL blib/KOHA_CONF_DIR/koha-conf.xml |
21:34 | gmcharlt | ok, progress, so far - did it actually change the file? |
21:35 | adamaix | yeah! :) |
21:36 | gmcharlt | ok, if you grep for rewrite-config.PL you'll get the other 15-odd files to run 'make foo' on - afterwards, 'make test' should run |
21:37 | adamaix | i see its all the default information in koha-conf.xml, though |
21:40 | ah, i have to prefix rewrite-config.PL | |
21:41 | k, we makeing progress | |
21:44 | slef | 46 even |
21:44 | 48... final offer... going once, going twice | |
21:46 | gmcharlt | SOLD! |
22:17 | slef | anyone know who jayadevkumbar is? |
22:17 | gmcharlt | slef: I don't |
22:18 | slef | gmcharlt: he appears to control the koha group on linkedin.com |
22:18 | he/she/it | |
22:18 | chris | yes, i noticed that |
22:18 | whoever creates it first, controls it :) | |
22:19 | slef | not according to their faq |
22:20 | chris | cool |
22:20 | gmcharlt | is he not responding to join requests? |
22:21 | slef | not for me yet - anyone here joined successfully? |
22:21 | chris | not yet |
22:21 | slef | chris: applied? |
22:21 | chris | yep |
22:21 | yesterday | |
22:21 | slef | ok, let's give him a while longer |
22:22 | actually | |
22:22 | I'll search the lists first | |
22:22 | ho ho... one invite-spam to koha.lists.katipo and that's all | |
22:23 | chris | i see some mail from him |
22:23 | gmcharlt | slef: and a couple actual questions on 3 March, it looks like |
22:23 | chris | Subject: [Koha] how to change the year in the source |
22:23 | gmcharlt | I've sent in my group join request as well |
22:23 | chris | windows user it looks like |
22:25 | slef | http://article.gmane.org/gmane[…]mp.misc.koha/8350 was all I found |
22:25 | ah, surname is kumbar | |
22:25 | not devkumbar | |
22:26 | I suck at asian names. | |
22:26 | chris | heh |
22:41 | eric | err; likes |
22:42 | gmcharlt | hee - I wonder how many times thats actually been used |
22:43 | eric | Maybe on some NASA reports... who knows |
22:44 | chris | astronomy books |
22:44 | maybe | |
22:44 | gmcharlt | presumably not as place of publication though - 7xx isn't for topics |
22:44 | chris | starcharts and the like |
22:44 | true | |
22:45 | gmcharlt | starcharts though makes sense, at least based on my reading of the MARC21 manual |
22:45 | "name of community served" | |
22:46 | eric | Here is the full info about this field |
22:46 | Name of any extraterrestrial entity or space and includes solar systems, galaxies, star systems, and planets as well as geographic features of individual planets, etc. Subfield $h may be repeated for hierarchies when multiple levels are given, retaining the order highest-to-lowest | |
23:58 | chris | ahh the chown's and chmods dont respect DESTDIR |
23:59 | that makes making a package hard | |
00:13 | cos we install the man pages to DESTINSTALLMAN1DIR | |
00:13 | but then chown them at ) chown -R koha:koha $(KOHA_DEST_MAN_DIR) | |
00:13 | so if we have $DESTDIR set that breaks | |
00:13 | another thing for the todo list | |
00:28 | slef | ooh drat - Image::Magick just ate my internet connection |
00:40 | chris | http://apt.workbuffer.org/main[…]pan-libkoha-perl/ |
00:40 | first cut | |
00:41 | the things i do when i should be eating lunch :) | |
00:41 | (its set up to just do all the defaults ie, if i just wailed on return when running perl Makefile.PL | |
00:41 | ) | |
04:10 | cnighs | ever, also |
04:12 | seems insanely long | |
04:14 | chris | yeah someone complained once the default was too short |
04:14 | now its way to long | |
04:15 | 600 seems like a good time | |
04:15 | if you work more than 10 hours in a day | |
04:16 | then an enforced break is like a health and saftey requirement :) | |
04:33 | cnighs | I just set it to 21600 which should be 6 hours |
04:33 | actually my computer should lock me out at 12am for at least 6 hours ;-) | |
04:34 | for health and safety reasons... | |
04:42 | chris | :) |
04:54 | nrp | hello all. I'm having trouble using zebra on a koha 3.0 RC1 install on ubuntu. searches don't return anything, and koha-zebradaemon-output.log shows Search biblios ERROR 109 for every search. |
04:58 | some list posts suggest its a database error, but I don't know how to fix it. I tried running rebuild_zebra.pl, but it just returns without saying anything | |
05:05 | ooh, ok. got rebuild_zebra.pl to run by sticking a use lib "/usr/share/koha/lib"; in it, and it says it indexed stuff, but the search still doesn't return anything and the log still gives ERROR 109 | |
05:08 | rebuild_zebra.pl spits out the following: http://pastebin.ca/1080383 | |
06:30 | weew! fixed it | |
07:53 | chris | hi lloyd |
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