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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 13:29 | mc | hello all |
| 13:32 | gmcharlt | hi Marc |
| 13:32 | masonj | ah, i spotted that a couple of days agao too owen |
| 13:32 | in circ-toolbar.inc ?? | |
| 13:32 | owen | yeah |
| 13:33 | masonj | it does seen to look redundant |
| 13:37 | mc | anyone can tell me for what reason a zebrasrv launched successfully at hand |
| 13:37 | failed with daemon ? | |
| 13:37 | (with no error) | |
| 13:38 | masonj | so 'zebrasrv -f ./koha-conf.xml' works okay |
| 13:38 | but 'zebrasrv -d -f ./koha-conf.xml' doesnt | |
| 13:39 | gmcharlt | it should be -D, not -d, right? |
| 13:40 | masonj | hmm, -d <daemon> |
| 13:40 | for zebrasrv-2.0.32 | |
| 13:40 | gmcharlt | man zebrasrv says -D, not -d |
| 13:41 | -D to daemonize | |
| 13:41 | masonj | oops, zebrasrv -h says '-d' |
| 13:41 | gmcharlt | -d to specify name of daemon for hosts_access |
| 13:41 | -d is optional | |
| 13:41 | masonj | ah, my bad |
| 13:42 | nengard | owen - i was wrong - ryan will be in in a couple of hours |
| 13:44 | masonj | mc: 'zebrasrv -D -f ./koha-conf.xml -l ./log ' |
| 13:44 | and tail -f the log... | |
| 13:44 | mc | i try |
| 13:45 | masonj | could be something in there.. |
| 13:45 | 'zebrasrv -D -f ./koha-conf.xml -l ./log -v all' | |
| 13:46 | turn the log-level up, perhaps | |
| 13:48 | mc | grmbl ... it seems that the problem comes from daemon : no logfile created |
| 13:57 | i work around it | |
| 13:57 | sudo -u $OTHERUSER zebrasrv 2>>$ERRLOG 1>>$STDOUT | |
| 14:09 | eric | gmcharlt, concerning the zebrasrv daemon, do you know if is there a reason why the koha-zebra-ctl.h is using the daemon utils instead of using the -D switch? |
| 14:10 | gmcharlt | eric: I'm not sure - chris wrote those scripts. |
| 14:10 | eric: possibly to make it easier to identify which zebrasrv to kill when stopping it | |
| 14:12 | eric | i ran through some problem yesterday with zebrasrv running with the RC1. |
| 14:12 | for an unknown reason, it seems to be confused with the koha-conf.xml file. | |
| 14:14 | gmcharlt | how so? |
| 14:15 | eric | I got full of _Bareword found where operator expected at <koha-conf.xml path> near "/home/ebegin"_ |
| 14:15 | (Missing operator before ebegin?) | |
| 14:16 | gmcharlt | sounds like it's running koha-conf.xml through the Perl interpreter for some reason |
| 14:16 | eric | Let me check something ;) |
| 14:21 | gmcharlt, you are right. I replaced the koha-zebra-ctl.sh file with a previous version. gmcharlt++! | |
| 14:39 | owen | masonj: I figured out the answer to my question about StaffMember permisisons |
| 14:40 | You have to have special permission to edit the permissions of staff members. A fairly recent addition. | |
| 15:52 | cnighs? | |
| 16:13 | fbcit | hi owen |
| 16:14 | owen | About Bug 2319... |
| 16:14 | No, sorry.. | |
| 16:15 | Bug 2318 | |
| 16:17 | The 404 error is by design | |
| 16:17 | ...so technically the bug is invalid. But I agree it's questionable behavior | |
| 16:17 | fbcit | right, I'm thinking that it might be nice to return why |
| 16:17 | so maybe an enhancement? | |
| 16:18 | owen | Yeah, and I think you'll have to argue your case. The current behavior assumes that individual records can be considered "pages," and that someone following a link to something that's not there should be told it's not there |
| 16:19 | fbcit | incidentally, the koha-error_log gives no explanation of why the error occurred either |
| 16:19 | perhaps I should add that bit to the bug as the sys admin will have a hard time understanding what caused the 404 w/no log entry | |
| 16:22 | it is probably unlikely that attempting to view a non-existent biblio will occur | |
| 16:23 | it happened here due to messed up zebra indexes | |
| 16:23 | once the index was dropped and rebuilt, the bad entries no longer appeared | |
| 16:24 | owen | I think it's a difficult question... we consider detail.pl to be the page. We know it's always there. it's the ?biblionumber= part that changes. But does the user view each unique URL (including the biblionumber=) as a separate page? |
| 16:25 | Amazon and WorldCat both give 404-ish errors | |
| 16:26 | fbcit | I guess my main concern was not so much the user, but the admin when (s)he is asked to discover what is going wrong |
| 16:27 | but that fix is probably as simple as adding a warn to the detail.pl script when it attempts to retrieve information for a non-existent biblionumber | |
| 16:28 | so maybe bug 2318 should be closed and another opened recommending the addition of a warn so the error will be logged | |
| 16:29 | owen | That sounds good to me |
| 16:35 | paul_koha | hello world |
| 17:35 | kados_ | paul: you here? |
| 17:35 | paul | yep. |
| 17:35 | hello kados_ | |
| 17:35 | kados_ | paul: there are 16 translation modifs on translate.koha.org, are those official? |
| 17:35 | for fr-FR | |
| 17:35 | (hi :-)) | |
| 17:35 | paul | (almost time for dinner here, but i'm alone those weeks) |
| 17:35 | (this week) | |
| 17:35 | (so I can eat when I want ;-) | |
| 17:36 | not at all. | |
| 17:36 | I don't know who did them at all. | |
| 17:36 | kados_ | OK, I will ignore them |
| 17:36 | paul | we use .po & git directly |
| 17:36 | kados : about http://biblio-os.blogspot.com/[…]ry-system-md.html | |
| 17:37 | how should I understand : | |
| 17:37 | Their original go-live date was supposed to be this fall, but they are now waiting for the new Koha acquisitions module, Get It, to be finished. They are co-sponsoring development of this with WALDO. It will be released in November, at a conference in North Carolina. | |
| 17:37 | you're working on a new acquisition module ? | |
| 17:37 | kados | paul: it's not a Koha module in fact |
| 17:38 | paul: will be similar to biblios, a separate project | |
| 17:38 | paul | what will it do ? |
| 17:38 | kados | paul: we will announce it officially once they have signed off on the specs |
| 17:38 | paul: and the specs will be published too, so you can have your answer to that question too :-) | |
| 17:40 | not sure I understand the last sentence, do you mean you wish we told you about the project before someone posted a blog about it? | |
| 17:40 | paul | yep. |
| 17:40 | as we're working on a new acq module too. | |
| 17:40 | maybe we could have merged our specs. | |
| 17:40 | kados | the problem is that if we announce we have a new acq module, everyone will want to know what it will do |
| 17:41 | and since we don't have customer sign-off on the spec, we can't say for sure | |
| 17:41 | paul | I thought BibLibre was not "everyone" |
| 17:42 | kados | true, but your first question was 'what will it do?' ;-) |
| 17:44 | paul: we are working on a site for all liblime sponsored dev projects | |
| 17:44 | paul: but things are so busy we haven't had time to finish it | |
| 17:44 | paul: hopefully in the next month or so it will be ready | |
| 17:44 | paul | same here (for being busy...) |
| 17:44 | kados | *nod* |
| 17:44 | paul | what is nice with summer is that customers are in holidays, so we can work on what we can't usually ;-) |
| 17:45 | about BibLibre : Olivier Saury will be full time aug, 1st. Dedicated to new acq module | |
| 17:45 | Johnny Soros will be full time aug 1st, dedicated to new acq module too | |
| 17:45 | kados | excellent! |
| 17:46 | paul | Nicolas Moris has started on monday, dedicated to strategy & Marseille Universities |
| 17:46 | Jacques Piton should start on aug, 1st or Sep 1st, it's objectives not being defined yet | |
| 17:47 | Laucence Lefaucheur will start on Oct, 1st, being dedicated to customers & contracts | |
| 17:47 | one librarian still to find (we have a good candidate, maybe a better one can come. Otherwise, we have got our man) | |
| 17:48 | so, hdl+me+mc+5 new + 1 to decide = 9 BibLibrer's on oct, 1st | |
| 17:48 | kados | really great paul! |
| 17:49 | paul | do you have some minuts for me & my commits ? |
| 17:50 | kados | paul: I'm working on translations atm, maybe in a bit? |
| 17:50 | paul | ok, will be here for 2 or 3 hours still |
| 17:50 | I've 3 patches that I want to discuss of | |
| 17:51 | kados | OK |
| 17:51 | actually, go ahead, now is fine | |
| 17:51 | which 3? | |
| 17:51 | paul | 5d327138cde8cb3dc245e0f20966083d791b8075 : bugfixing scan index |
| 17:51 | (june, 2) | |
| 17:51 | I never had news from you about this one unless i've missed it | |
| 17:52 | (in fact, you asked me for some infos, I answered, and ... nothing) | |
| 17:52 | kados | checking |
| 17:53 | I think we talked on IRC about it | |
| 17:53 | I can't get scan to work at all | |
| 17:53 | before or after the patch | |
| 17:54 | yep, not working on http://opac.liblime.com for instance | |
| 17:54 | paul | works on staff : http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]sort_by=relevance |
| 17:54 | (abel / abel) | |
| 17:54 | kados | paul: also, your patch doesn't reference a bug number |
| 17:54 | paul | there is none |
| 17:55 | mmm.... works on opac for me as well : | |
| 17:55 | http://o15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]y=relevance&do=OK | |
| 17:55 | kados | on staff, still doesn't work for me |
| 17:55 | http://staff-jmf.dev.kohalibra[…]sort_by=relevance | |
| 17:55 | admin / demo | |
| 17:55 | it says 10 results found, but none display | |
| 17:56 | paul | probably a marc21/unimarc problem |
| 17:57 | kados | *nod* |
| 17:57 | paul | I think i've got it |
| 17:58 | C4::Search.pm, line 475 | |
| 17:58 | is it correct for MARC21 ? | |
| 17:58 | kados | looks correct to me |
| 17:58 | paul | :( |
| 17:59 | anyway, my patch is correct, you should apply it ;-) | |
| 17:59 | kados | hehe |
| 17:59 | OK, I will add it to the list of TODO for today | |
| 17:59 | next patch? | |
| 17:59 | paul | 86eca13ffb6f8747cfd5531f4bcb2bfcc20fd2c1 bugfixing (itemtype summary) : it summary is defined, the icon & author were not displayed |
| 17:59 | this one is useless for you (you use XSLT) | |
| 18:00 | but it's very important for us, that use the itemtype.summary thing | |
| 18:00 | (useless & harmless I hope) | |
| 18:00 | (june, 2nd too) | |
| 18:00 | kados | right, and I need to test that one I think |
| 18:00 | again, I wish there was a bug report | |
| 18:01 | so I could reference an issue that has been explained | |
| 18:01 | paul: i will test it today | |
| 18:01 | paul | it's very small, and everything is included in a <tmpl_if name="summary"> |
| 18:01 | so you'll have to use summary to see what it does | |
| 18:02 | kados | *nod* |
| 18:02 | will try today | |
| 18:02 | paul | last one... the 0088 / 0089 unicode |
| 18:02 | kados | yes, and this one we disagree on I'm afraid :-) |
| 18:02 | paul | yes, we disagree. |
| 18:03 | mc spent 2 days trying to add \{0088} to .chr file to explain zebra what it must do with it | |
| 18:03 | and could not get any result | |
| 18:03 | kados | paul: have you asked on zebra lists how to do it? |
| 18:03 | paul | yes, on may, 30 |
| 18:03 | and got no answer | |
| 18:04 | kados | try again perhaps? |
| 18:04 | because removing a character breaks the MARC record | |
| 18:04 | it messes with the directory size | |
| 18:04 | and could cause unexpected problems that would be very hard to debug | |
| 18:04 | paul | it's done on the MARC::Record object, so the leader is recalculated when needed, am I wrong ? |
| 18:05 | kados | not within that function I don't think |
| 18:05 | paul | + look what it look like here : http://o03.musil.biblibre.com/[…]?biblionumber=360 |
| 18:06 | + my patches solves the problem for NoZebra as well | |
| 18:06 | kados | gmcharlt: around? |
| 18:06 | paul: maybe the solution is to map it to a different character? | |
| 18:06 | instead of just removing it | |
| 18:06 | paul | a space would be OK |
| 18:06 | kados | I see that being done elsewhere in that function |
| 18:07 | gmcharlt | kados: what's uP? |
| 18:07 | kados | gmcharlt would be the best one to ask |
| 18:07 | paul | hi gmcharlt |
| 18:07 | kados | gmcharlt: paul's recent patch: BUGFIX (UNIMARC specific) : zebra dislike 0088 and 0089 chars |
| 18:07 | gmcharlt: adds the following : | |
| 18:07 | + # discard 0088 and 0089, that are added by BNF for starting articles | |
| 18:07 | paul | FYI : http://www.fileformat.info/inf[…]ar/0088/index.htm |
| 18:07 | kados | + next if $char eq 0x0088; |
| 18:07 | + next if $char eq 0x0089; | |
| 18:08 | to the char_decode5426 sub in Charset.pm | |
| 18:08 | gmcharlt | I strenuously object to throwing out valid data that is permitted by the standard |
| 18:09 | paul | note it's "non printable char" |
| 18:09 | kados | paul: so the 'bug' is that linux doesn't know how to display the character? |
| 18:09 | paul | look at : http://o03.musil.biblibre.com/[…]?biblionumber=360 |
| 18:09 | gmcharlt | barring a solution for Zebra, it should be implemented as a filter prior to indexing a record (NoZebra) or sending it to Zebra |
| 18:09 | paul | not at all. |
| 18:10 | it's that zebra consider {0088}Camp as a word. | |
| 18:10 | kados | paul: apart from the patch, there is no bug report for this, so it's hard for us to understand what exactpl the problem is |
| 18:10 | gmcharlt | and possibly an output filter |
| 18:10 | kados | paul: OK, looking at that record |
| 18:10 | paul | thus, searching "Camp" don't return anything |
| 18:10 | kados | (at the top of the page I see: |
| 18:10 | <<<<<<< HEAD:koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/doc-head-close.inc ======= >>>>>>> 5ae7d4ea9738ab0c2ca499a578fdd3d23efdd836:koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/doc-head-close.inc | |
| 18:10 | paul | as the "word" indexed is "{0088}Camp" |
| 18:10 | kados | ) |
| 18:10 | paul | yes, it's a git problem |
| 18:10 | not our problem though ;-) | |
| 18:11 | kados | paul: why did the catalogers put the char in there? |
| 18:11 | paul | it's BNF ! |
| 18:11 | it's here to say "Le " is useless for sorting title | |
| 18:11 | the book has to be sorted on C (Camp) | |
| 18:12 | atz | BNF != Backus-Nauer Form ? |
| 18:12 | paul | it's UNIMARC standard v5 unless i'm mistaken. |
| 18:12 | atz: joking or you don't know that BNF is Bibliothèque Nationale de France ? | |
| 18:13 | BNF provides a free z3950 that every libraries uses in France ! | |
| 18:13 | gmcharlt | kados, paul: it's not just BNF: http://www.loc.gov/marc/marbi/1998/98-16.html |
| 18:13 | atz | paul: didn't know. and since you're talking about parsing, i figured backus-nauer would make sense |
| 18:17 | paul | just to point a difference btw France & US/GB : last week, hdl teaches Koha to some benevolent librarians. Some were english, some were french. When he showed the OPAC-detail, the reaction was "Hey (great), it looks like Amazon" and "Hey (horror), it looks like Amazon". guess who expressed what ? |
| 18:17 | (not related to our 0088 problem, just to smile a little) | |
| 18:17 | kados | hehe |
| 18:18 | paul: XSL will come to the rescue there I hope | |
| 18:18 | paul | (for most french librarians, Amazon is evil...) |
| 18:18 | kados | heh |
| 18:18 | atz | paul: and google is worse ? |
| 18:18 | :) | |
| 18:18 | paul | yep. |
| 18:19 | (strange to see that "google book scan" is Devil, and "google search engine is great" | |
| 18:19 | so, back to our problem... | |
| 18:20 | gmcharlt | re Zebra's tokenization, do you try setting 88 and 89 as space characters in the appropriate *.chr? |
| 18:20 | paul | yep. |
| 18:20 | but could not make it work | |
| 18:20 | (& I asked on zebra ml, but got no answer) | |
| 18:21 | I tried : | |
| 18:21 | space {\001-\040}!"#$%&'\()*+,-./:;<=>?@\[\\]^_`\{|}~{\088-\089} ? | |
| 18:21 | but does not work. | |
| 18:21 | gmcharlt | what about setting encoding of that one to utf8 and adding the appropriate encoding directive? |
| 18:21 | paul | + that solve the search problem for Zebra, but it's still here for display (strange char) & for NoZebra |
| 18:21 | gmcharlt: I don't understand what you mean | |
| 18:22 | gmcharlt | paul: read description of the encoding directive in http://www.indexdata.dk/zebra/[…]ter-map-files.tkl |
| 18:23 | paul | I know this page, but I still don't understand what you mean |
| 18:24 | (if you mean adding encoding utf-8 at the beginning of the file, it's already here | |
| 18:24 | etc/zebradb/lang_defs/fr/sort-string-utf.chr | |
| 18:25 | gmcharlt | ok, gotcha |
| 18:25 | but if you're trying \088-\089, that's interpreted as *octal*, not *hex* | |
| 18:25 | so \88-\89 might work | |
| 18:26 | or rather, \x88-\x89 | |
| 18:26 | paul | why don't you want to remove those chars ? |
| 18:26 | (as .chr will solve only the zebra problem, not the display or the NoZebra one) | |
| 18:27 | (having search work would be much better however !) | |
| 18:27 | gmcharlt | because it corrupts data that is valid per the MARC standard |
| 18:27 | paul | corrupts ? the leader you mean ? |
| 18:29 | + the line $result=~s/\x0f//; & later does somewhat the same thing isn't it ? | |
| 18:29 | (changing the size of the subfield) | |
| 18:29 | gmcharlt | let me spell it out - 0088 and 0089 are permitted in MARC records, have a defined purpose (surrounding nonfilng characters to remove), and your patch would just simply remove them before saving the record |
| 18:30 | paul | yes, because Koha don't handle them, neither zebra & it add some strange boxes on the display. |
| 18:30 | worth the price I think | |
| 18:30 | (if we can handle them properly, I agree to change my mind ;-) ) | |
| 18:30 | atz | i don't think you can just thow out valid data though... |
| 18:30 | gmcharlt | NO! the solution is to fix Koha to deal with those characters, configure Zebra properly, and possibly add an option to filter then from output to deal with broken web browsers |
| 18:31 | atz | even if is it problematic bizarre valid data |
| 18:32 | paul | gmcharlt: I think the strange boxes appear on non broken web browser (ff, konqueror, opera...) & don't appear on broken one (IE6) in fact ;-) |
| 18:34 | gmcharlt | given that 0088 and 0089 are clearly marked as control characters, that behavior is debateable |
| 18:35 | paul | do you want to debate now ? ;-) |
| 18:36 | gmcharlt | paul: actually, no - I would prefer that you implement this by adding routines to filter HTML output and indexing output, not by corrupting MARC records |
| 18:36 | paul | are you sure it corrupts MARC records ? and where ? |
| 18:36 | atz | paul: you take valid data out. that's corruption. |
| 18:37 | paul | valid, but not usefull for us. so I think it's acceptable |
| 18:37 | (again, could we deal with those markers correctly, I would change my mind) | |
| 18:37 | kados | paul: I disagree :-) |
| 18:38 | paul: removing valid data that isn't useful is called corruption | |
| 18:38 | paul: it might not be useful now, but what if we deal with it correctly later? | |
| 18:38 | atz | not useful for us only because koha doesn't handle it. the fix is NOT in changing the data. |
| 18:38 | kados | paul: remember that in 2.0 you removed leaders from MARC records :-) |
| 18:38 | paul: because they weren't useful at the time | |
| 18:38 | paul: ;-) | |
| 18:39 | paul | (no need to ;-) I was a newbie at MARC, so I made mistakes) |
| 18:39 | kados | this would be a similar mistake IMO |
| 18:39 | not quite as bad I agree, but still destructive | |
| 18:39 | if we had DOM filtering for instance, we could use the presence of those chars to signal the index | |
| 18:39 | in zebra to sort properly | |
| 18:40 | so if you remove them from your data you lost taht ability | |
| 18:40 | paul | yes, and for NoZebra, we could remove the chars when indexing, no pb here. so the last remaining problem would be display. |
| 18:40 | which I can live with... | |
| 18:41 | gmcharlt | alternatively, switching to ICU chains would help, because then they could be readily filtered out |
| 18:41 | paul | so, let's check if space {\x88-\x89} works for zebra |
| 18:41 | gmcharlt: ++ | |
| 18:41 | (I tried icu, works very well) | |
| 18:41 | gmcharlt | although now isn't the time to add yaz-icu as a dep, but for 3.2, different story |
| 18:41 | paul | gmcharlt: ++ |
| 18:42 | OK, will check for {\x88-\x89} and you'll see a patch coming if it works | |
| 18:42 | (& you could probably use it for marc21/en as well, isn't it ?) | |
| 18:42 | kados | sounds like it, yes |
| 18:42 | gmcharlt | paul: well actually, we need to prepare proper .chr files for en to begin with |
| 18:43 | kados | *nod* |
| 18:49 | paul | gmcharlt: you're the best ! |
| 18:49 | {\x88-\x89 just work fine !) | |
| 18:49 | http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]ch.pl?q=communaut3%A9 | |
| 18:49 | (abel/abel) display "La communauté de l'anneau" !!! | |
| 18:49 | kados: patch coming | |
| 18:50 | (+ translation updated patch coming too) | |
| 18:50 | atz | cool, glad to see that worked out (at least this initial part) |
| 18:52 | kados | excellent |
| 19:43 | paul | kados : 2 patches sent (french updated & 88/89 .chr version) |
| 19:43 | going to dinner then bed. | |
| 19:43 | bye world | |
| 19:44 | paul_away | kados : mc planned to send a mail on koha-devel about CGI::Session pb. if you can get in touch with him, feel free to speak of it |
| 19:45 | (he has contacted CPAN maintainers to have them fix a problem on CGI::Session package, that is the origin of the problems) | |
| 19:45 | (dunno the details, it's something about "pause request") | |
| 19:45 | this time, really away ;-) | |
| 20:22 | cait | hi, i ve got a question: what means currency cutoff? im working on german translation (again) :) |
| 20:23 | its on home > circulation > billing | |
| 20:26 | kados | cait: the date for translation submission has passed unfortunately :) |
| 20:26 | cait: I already pushe dup the german ones | |
| 20:26 | for 3.0-stable | |
| 20:26 | cait | thats ok, i had no internet last week... |
| 20:27 | and i think a better german translation will be ok for next version? or perhaps as a patch oder download? | |
| 20:28 | acmoore | is that cutoff the lowest amount that koha will bill for? |
| 20:28 | in order to avoid sending bills for negligably small amounts | |
| 20:29 | cait | btw is there a new date for final release? |
| 20:30 | the term appears in billing report... its on the left side. i cant test it, i have no fines or charges in the system yes | |
| 20:53 | hm, is there really no chance of getting my translation work to 3.0? i completed OPAC yesterday and in rc1 are still many strings completely missing or marked as changed in po-edit. | |
| 21:00 | kados | cait: I'm working on the release right now, hoping it will be ready today |
| 21:00 | cait | oh |
| 21:00 | kados | cait: you working from a .po file, or from translate.koha.org? |
| 21:01 | cait | po-file, fixing typos, looking that terms are used the same way everywhere in koha. thats not possible with translate.koha.org |
| 21:02 | kados | *nod* |
| 21:02 | cait: OK, well I'll accept a late submission for that file | |
| 21:03 | cait: please just let me know how to get it, or zip it up and send to me directly at jmfliblime.com (maybe cc koha-translate too) |
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| 21:03 | cait | thx kados |
| 21:03 | kados | np |
| 21:03 | cait | can you give one or two more hours to check some things before submitting? |
| 21:04 | kados | sure |
| 21:04 | cait: I'm wrapping up a bunch of bug reports/patches anway | |
| 21:04 | cait | ok. ill stay here so you can contact me |
| 21:51 | slef | hi all... cnighs are you alive? |
| 21:52 | cnighs | yup |
| 21:52 | slef | in C4/Auth.pm:/checkauth, why did you make it unless ($userid || $sessionID0 ? |
| 21:53 | I think commit 3d377cd7c1858bb865f8da7126961f888ca15692 broke OPAC logins for me. | |
| 21:54 | But I'm not entirely sure. I've changed that || to && and it works, but I'm not sure about that either. | |
| 21:54 | kados | slef: is that |
| 21:54 | fix for 2322: Failure to reach amazon.com to retrieve enhanced content causes fatal error in Koha | |
| 21:54 | ? | |
| 21:54 | ahh, nope | |
| 21:54 | slef | kados: it's kohabug 1875 Public lists/virtualshelves are displayed and viewable whether a patron is logged in or not. |
| 21:54 | kados | slef: found it, thx |
| 21:55 | slef: what's the error you're getting? | |
| 21:55 | slef | kados: no error. Just no-one can log in to OPAC if they've got a session cookie. |
| 21:55 | That was my first suspicion but NAFAICT | |
| 21:56 | Do either CGI::Session::Serialize::storable or ::freezethaw work, by the way? Would be good to reduce PREREQ_PM instead of lengthening it. | |
| 21:56 | gmcharlt | slef: I just tested both storable and freezethaw |
| 21:56 | slef: neither work as a trivial substitution, alas | |
| 21:57 | storable crashes outright | |
| 21:57 | freezethaw can't handle managing the session during the commit operation of a staging MARC import | |
| 21:58 | (and FreezeThaw isn't a core module, anyway) | |
| 21:58 | slef | cnighs: unless confuses the hell out of me, so || might be right and my site's problem is elsewhere. |
| 21:58 | gmcharlt: FreezeThaw is in Extras on darwin, which is a little better than CPANs. | |
| 21:59 | gmcharlt: Storable would have been nicest if it worked and it didn't look like it had been tested. Thanks. | |
| 22:04 | cnighs | slef: take a look around line 534 |
| 22:04 | if ( ($query->param('koha_login_context')) && ($query->param('userid') ne $session->param('id')) ) { | |
| 22:04 | #if a user enters an id ne to the id in the current session, we need to log them in... | |
| 22:04 | #first we need to clear the anonymous session... | |
| 22:05 | if the user enters a userid not equal to the one contained in the session, the anonymous session is cleared, or should be | |
| 22:05 | works here | |
| 22:05 | slef | cnighs: I saw it, but koha_login_context isn't in the login form. |
| 22:06 | ah, but not in their templates | |
| 22:06 | AY*(DF&AS(*D&AS(*&DA(S*&D*F(A | |
| 22:08 | the site I was debugging | |
| 22:09 | it would be really really really really useful to modify the intranet rather than the opac when you have the choice | |
| 22:10 | I suspect there are far more modified opac templates in use than intranet ones. | |
| 22:10 | cnighs | unfortunately anonymous session in the intranet might not go over too well ;) |
| 22:10 | slef | cnighs: so you couldn't have had user_edit_context somehow? |
| 22:15 | cnighs | slef: I'm not familiar with that context |
| 22:18 | slef | cnighs: it doesn't exist, but neither did koha_login_context. |
| 22:22 | kados: has 9a301c2608e07b79c2749ac859d41e87a1446e0c been applied? | |
| 22:59 | kados | slef: is that 'BUGFIX opac-serial-issues.pl template.' ? |
| 23:11 | slef | kados: no, it's 'Improve Z39.50 result checking and display a little:' |
| 23:11 | kados | slef: that's not in my queue, did you send it to koha-patches? |
| 23:11 | I may have missed it? | |
| 23:12 | slef: I do'nt see it on lists.koha.org in the may archive ... and I don't see a June archive(!!!) | |
| 23:12 | slef | kados: it's at http://serene.ttllp.co.uk/~mjr[…]play-a-little.txt too. You rejected an earlier version of it, but I've had no reply to this one. |
| 23:12 | kados | or July for that matter |
| 23:13 | slef: I'll take a look now | |
| 23:13 | slef | kados: known bug, ask hdl || paul to give me access if they want help fixing it. |
| 23:14 | kados: thanks. It's reduced the number of "we can't find stuff in z39.50 when it shows on $whatever's OPAC, so Koha is broken" reports we get. | |
| 23:15 | kados: key line is push(@breeding_loop,{'toggle'=>($i % 2)?1:0,'server'=>$servername[$k],'title'=>join(': ',$oConnection[$k]->error_x()),'breedingid'=>-1,'biblionumber'=>-1}); | |
| 23:16 | kados | slef: looks better |
| 23:16 | slef: is there a bug number? | |
| 23:16 | if not, there should be | |
| 23:17 | slef | 1337 |
| 23:18 | erm | |
| 23:18 | well, it relates to that | |
| 23:21 | kados | slef: I'll go ahead and apply it |
| 23:23 | slef: it checks out, thanks | |
| 23:24 | slef | kados: re kohabug 2244 - how does SIP2 do cataloguing? |
| 23:24 | kados | slef: how does RFID do cataloging? :-) |
| 23:25 | slef | kados: you put barcode-like numbers on the tags |
| 23:25 | kados | SIP is basically just a way to communicate with an RFID hardware solution for things like circulation self-checkout or RFID checkouts |
| 23:25 | slef | kados: I read 3M's SIP2 docs and didn't see how to set the book barcode-like number. |
| 23:26 | kados | slef: yea, I'm not the man to ask there, that'd be atz |
| 23:26 | slef | kados: that's what I thought, so I don't understand your question on 2244. |
| 23:26 | kados | well, I saw RFID and thought 'SIP2' |
| 23:26 | because that's how RFID solutions typically interact with an ILS | |
| 23:26 | through the SIP2 interface | |
| 23:27 | I'm unaware of any other way in fact | |
| 23:27 | unless it's some kind of proprietary vendor-specific protocol for RFID | |
| 23:27 | or for an RFID reader I mean | |
| 23:27 | slef | well, this project is to avoid a proprietary RFID writer |
| 23:28 | kados | slef: in that case, you're well beyond me, just ignore my comment :-) |
| 23:29 | slef | it's the other side to SIP2 |
| 23:29 | although if we're writing tags, it's cheap to also interface to circulation | |
| 23:30 | so we'll do that too | |
| 23:31 | ricardo | Hi everyone! :) |
| 23:31 | kados | heh, hi there ricardo |
| 23:31 | slef | Hi Doctor ricardo! |
| 23:31 | </simpsons> | |
| 23:32 | atz | slef: so you are building an SIP client embedded-RFID-reader system? |
| 23:32 | ricardo | slef: LOL! Hi MJ :) Well, technically I'm not a "Doctor", at least in the UK / US sense (I do NOT have a Ph.D, alas...) |
| 23:32 | Hi kados ! | |
| 23:33 | kados: I've finished updating my openSUSE tutorial in the wiki. I'm now installing git to update the INSTALL.opensuse file | |
| 23:33 | slef | atz: no, it's a non-SIP RFID-writer |
| 23:33 | kados | ricardo++ |
| 23:33 | atz | the RFID "barcode printer" then. |
| 23:34 | kados | slef: did you ever file the bugs related to and referenced in bug 1536? |
| 23:34 | ricardo | BRB |
| 23:34 | slef | atz: pretty much, plus an RFID "keyboard wedge" for the circulation screens |
| 23:34 | atz: button that fills the barcode field with whatever RFID tag is on the writer pad. | |
| 23:35 | atz | sounds right to me |
| 23:35 | and yeah, SIP doesn't provide anything like "modify item" as a function | |
| 23:36 | slef | atz: including evil use of REMOTE_IP to figure out what RFID pad to use... |
| 23:37 | kados: nafaict... hdl (see comment #4) seemed to suggest it was a local problem. Are serials working for you? | |
| 23:37 | atz | so you have to setup IP maps ahead of time? not much fun there. |
| 23:37 | kados | slef: there might be an NCIP profile that handles "modify item" |
| 23:38 | slef: no, serials are broken | |
| 23:38 | slef: and i'm waffling about the release over them | |
| 23:38 | atz | kados: .... anytime soon anyway |
| 23:38 | slef | atz: no, the RFID pads are listening on tcp |
| 23:40 | atz: small daemons on staff terminals | |
| 23:40 | atz | ah, i see... you have to know who to spit back at (via non HTTP browser) |
| 23:41 | not much error control then, i gather, once you've sent the command back to the the pad | |
| 23:41 | or is that the part you are working on? | |
| 23:44 | ricardo | kados: I didn't know that verb "waffling". I do know about "wafles" though! <Homer>Hmm.... Wafles....</Homer> ;-) |
| 23:45 | atz | for some reason american political discourse needs to have a new verb for "vacillate" every few years |
| 23:45 | kados | hehe |
| 23:46 | one less bug :-) | |
| 23:46 | ricardo | atz: LOL! |
| 23:48 | slef | atz: ? the pad gives feedback about command success/failure. |
| 23:48 | atz: also, the pads make beeps and boops on command | |
| 23:49 | atz | so the page submits some form to the server, server sends to pad, pad replies, server returns form to browser (potentially w/ error info) |
| 23:50 | it just happens to be that the way to contact the pad is back through the same system that the browser is requesting from | |
| 23:51 | slef | yep |
| 23:52 | atz | sounds cool |
| 23:52 | slef | will be when it works |
| 23:52 | atz | :) |
| 23:53 | cait | No transfers to receive |
| 23:53 | oh sorry, wrong window | |
| 23:53 | atz | hello anyway cait |
| 23:56 | cait | atz: hi :) |
| 23:57 | ricardo | Is it good practice, in the INSTALL (documentation) files, to put a "changelog" in the "body" (description) of the patch? |
| 23:58 | gmcharlt | ricardo: the body of the patch ought to summarize the change |
| 23:58 | ricardo: I don't think in general there's a need for a ChangeLog section in the install document itself | |
| 23:58 | ricardo | gmcharlt: OK. So I think the answer is yes. Great, thanks for the feedback :) |
| 00:11 | newlogbot: Welcome Back! | |
| 00:13 | kados | ricardo: ahh, OK :-) |
| 00:13 | ricardo | kados: Got it? |
| 00:14 | kados | ricardo: I'm afraid NO |
| 00:16 | ricardo | kados: OK. Back to editing main.cf |
| 00:18 | kados: Take #3 | |
| 00:19 | kados | ricardo: got it! |
| 00:19 | ricardo: thanks! | |
| 00:19 | ricardo | kados: Great! :D |
| 00:19 | kados: You're welcome :) | |
| 00:22 | There is my Patch in all its glory (ahem...): | |
| 00:22 | http://koha.markmail.org/searc[…]ny4+state:results | |
| 00:26 | kados | ricardo: OK, pushed, thanks again! |
| 00:27 | ricardo | kados: Welcome! |
| 00:29 | OK. It's 1H30 AM here now. It's REALLY time to go. Take care everyone. Keep up the great work! :) | |
| 00:30 | slef` | heh, same time here |
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